Gran Turismo 7: The Weirdest Car in the Game
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Fun fact: that extra exhaust pipe up top is for the snowmobile engine that actually powers the fans. It took the pole during Road Atlanta's first ever race weekend in the Can-Am Challenge series, and proceeded to keep taking pole positions with the margin to second place being around 2 seconds. Over one lap.
Driving this thing in the mission challenges was nuts. It has 70's brakes, 90's power, and legit LMP1 levels of downforce. It's utterly unhinged.
Aaahhh nothing like drum brakes to stop .
Why does it seem to corner so sloppily if it has such high downforce?
@@Duergantia Either the body isn't stiff enough or Suspension has bad setup/geometry.
Likely the second option.
until the snowmobile engine ran out of gas and then it was a horror show.
@@afoxwithahat7846 70s tyres might have something to do with it as well
Steve the reason you were having so much trouble with oversteer is that you forgot to put in more fabric softener into your car. The lack of it makes the rear end loose, and also your clothes will be static-y as a result
God damnit
Which brand is the best though?
I also like to add some baking soda to the intake for odor control, but this is controversial and might be up for a rules change next season.
He just need to unlock the rare pose in f1 and it will really help his driving abilities across all games
I am watching a fabric softener ad on this video and half way through it, I decided to look at the comments and I see your comment.....
Interesting fact about the car: the transmission was a three-speed automatic in order to give the smoothest possible power delivery to not upset the ground effect.
All Chaparrals used automatic boxes from the #2.
@@mikehipperson Yep. The 2E was automatic, but there was still a third pedal that could be used to adjust the angle of the rear wing.
We have Cvts nowadays
@@dannnsss8034 yeah, but they can't hold the amount of power race cars can deliver, it wrecks the belt and it just slips, or the belt snaps. CVTs while interesting, they're highly flawed, the only thing they're good for is snowmobiles, anything heavier that can produce the power and they just do not hold.
They was tested in F1 before they was banned and it was all sorts of issues.
Why do you think they're so problematic in road cars?
This is lovely, I always wanted a race in a graphics card!
That's why I've never clicked so fast in my life. I thought it was a modded lobby full of graphic "cars"😅🤣
If the RTX 4090 had fans powerful enough to keep it cool.
When Graphic cards become so powerful that the decide they don't want to be in computers anymore...
rtx 4000series fans for mo powa baby
Air conditioner 😩
this car may be weird to drive in GT7
but was a monster in GT5
And GT4
exactly, in previous gt games the 2J was unbeatable
I always loved this car in gt5
I loved entering it in the compact car championship in GT4 and lapping all the normal hatchbacks like 5 times
It took me years to beat this bastard in gt5 😂
These videos are what makes Steve legendary in my opinion. Commentary is unmatched. He could've dogged on the penalty system the whole time but didn't even have to say anything- point got across with pure humor.
I've always been surprised at how fast a RTX 4090 can do a lap
@Impala1439 the car is literally built like a graphics card
That's a really unfair comparison. A 4090 is considerably larger than a 2J.
@Maddy the car looks like a graphics card
Probably consumes same energy as one
That's the pioneer of ground effect combined with 70s tire and brake tech for you. Chaparral made some truly amazing machines. Ground effect active might require you to use smaller and consistent steering angles and go on the outside of corners and weird stuff like that. Also, the Chaparral 2D and 2J have been around at least since GT5
They were both in GT4 as well
@@UnknownSpooky and gt2
Yeah i remember IT was nuts in GT4, like absolute beast that can win every race for you, but it was way easier to control back then...
@@donbehatin Chaparral was never in GT2 or GT3
GT4 is the first time they were in the GT series.
2D and 2J have started in Gran Turismo 4, continued to Gran Turismo 5 and have seen as last in Gran turismo 6.
In Gran Turismo 7 the 2J maded a come back.
Polyphony needs to figure out the way penalties get applied. In this race they were absolutely unnecessary and VERY harsh, especially when you just get tagged and you go towards the wall against your will.
just don’t hit the wall???
@@EmptyCheetosBag did you not read the comment
Wall penalties should be removed altogether. It doesnt make sense it doesnt help you go faster… why get a penalty?
@@tiresomeowl ikr what’s the point
It’s like kicking someone whilst they’re down
Yeah, I’m new and the harsh wall penalties have completely turned me off because you get double penalized so often
It's a snowmobile engine creating a vacuum cleaner to keep old Chappy tight on the turns.
It's basically a shoe box with an airplane jet mounted on
Looks that way but its a snowmobile engine oddly with a howitzer tank turbine. Had to power the fan somehow. The maytag liveries people made for it are funny
@@Jzwiz I see it as a v8 powered vacuum cleaner since it literally sucks air from underneath the car and shoots it out the ass
@@Jzwiz Bro... It's both.
@@Jzwiz It uses actual military grade turbines to suck the air under the car, the snowmobile engine is to power the turbine.
@@CLOYO its a tank turbine
I remember in GT4 this car was OP. They took the vacuum downforce to the extreme.
Seeing this car again just reawakens the emotional damage this monster caused in previous games.
...Unless you're the one driving it!
This reminds me. I remember the Jaguar XKR 12. No matter how hard ya try including smashing the XKR into a wall. Still comesbacks and overtakes I don't know why at the point and how but I used a Bugatti Veryron. Many retrys
Seeing the 2J in the All American Championship in GT 4 is terrifying
Still crazy to think about.. most genius aerodynamics in the 60s-70s. Probably could’ve held its own if regulated for Group 6 prototypes
That’s impossible lol. Fan cars would be useless in rally, they’re only effective when raced on smooth surfaces.
@@orcastrike7750 Group 6 isn't rally by the way. At a point, group 6 was the pinnacle of prototype racing. Cars like the Porsche 936 competed in it.
I swear to god I thought the original comment said Group B lol, pretty sure it did
@@orcastrike7750 oh lmao
@@orcastrike7750I’d hate to be behind this thing on a rally course 😂
And they complained about rocks being thrown out the back on asphalt….
At this point I think the developers are just releasing daily race combinations so they can have a laugh at superGT videos
Imagine if this was a wet race, I couldn’t even
What a beautiful flying fridge! 😁
Lovin the consistent uploads Steve! Keep up the great work 👍
I love watching Super GT because he’s polite, funny and never gets upset when someone messes up and crashes in to him. My Nan would like him. Great video as always
If memory serves reason the 2J looks like an appliance is because Jim Hall and his team basically built it as an engineering exercise/test mule, with an eye toward running it with properly developed bodywork during the 1971 Can Am season. But they realized the underbody suction concept was so powerful, so much of a game changer and so much of a threat to the then-dominant McLaren factory team that, with encouragement from Lexan (which provided the side skirts that sealed the 2J to the pavement), they ran it in 1970 with rudimentary bodywork that was basically there to cover what was underneath and satisfy the Group 7 rule that required enclosed wheels.
There were multiple occasions where it had the pace to take the fight to the McLarens, only to have the two-stroke snowmobile engine that drove the suction fans die, turning the 2J into a contraption that was probably about as unwieldy as it was in this daily race. Even so, the FIA outlawed "sucker cars" globally (Gordon Murray's Brabham BT46B and its clever workaround notwithstanding.) at the end of the 1970 racing season, and Chaparral left sports car racing altogether.
The humour in this video is out of control, I was laughing throughout it all, fantastic stuff, Steve!
High downforce cars with terrible traction under acceleration seem to be the cars I'm best at driving, so I actually loved this race (along with the F1500 race a few weeks ago, and the MP4/4 time trial a bit before that). I did the entire week (well, half week) without qualifying and won about 40 races. Unfortunately like it shows in your video, participation was low, and I was also often the only A+ (or anyone above B) in these races, and several times I was leading by the time we got out of T1 on Lap 1, despite starting mid-pack at best most of the time. Even though I ran away with a lot of these, the car always gave me a lot to do, even with TCS on 1, so I was never board, and many times I found myself getting comfortable, only to have it oversteer at the exit of one of the corners when I got on the throttle a fraction of a second too early, giving me a 5s penalty.
it's hard to imagine the giant amount of downforce that this created, but on cross-ply tyres XD
You've become of my new favorites to watch. I've been a huge GranaDy for over a year now and that's how I discovered you. Keep up the grind man
Loving the consistency, you're by far my favorite youtuber!
I like how you not only get pushed into the barrier, but you get a penalty for it 😂🤣🤣🤣
Glad to see that the fridge car is also in GT7
I would say its closer to AC unit, you've got the vents in the back and the high flow filter in the hood for all that incoming air. I do see though how it could be seen as a washer machine as well, maybe as a combined washer-dryer machine featuring twin-spin cycle technology for twice the effective cleaning of laundry and that deep lent trap for very efficient drying.
I wonder how many times you need to hit Barry R to be able to drive a whole lap while serving a penalty 😅
ive just worked it out to be 28
“The Hotpoint factory driver.” 😂😂😂
This is why i love this channel, Steve could've drove with no mistakes and winning every single race, but he only kept crashing and making a lot of mistakes just for an entertaining video. Now that's dedication!
Several Chaparral cars are on display at the Permian Basin museum in Midland, Texas. They also have
hands-on stations that explain the physics behind the Chaparral cars.
This car was made in Midland, TX and if you don’t know what the Permian Basin is it’s hard to explain how incredible is it that this car/company came from Midland, TX.
Btw that giant air conditioning unit is a fan that sucks the air out from under the car to create down force. It was so good it was banned (or maybe because the fans spewed rocks at the drivers behind lol)
P.S. I lived in Midland for a few years AMA
Spewing rocks behind sounds like something from Wacky Races!
The Hotpoint 5000 is a hard beast to tame
Hello Super GT viewer here, thank you for another magnificent video. Keep doing the good work. It would be great if you showed us more GT Sport Carnage, that Truck starting from the back of the grid keeps me up at night.
When playing GT5 on the PS3 in 2012 & driving this car, I once joked that the back of the car looks like a pizza box with ventilation holes cut at the side of the box to cool the pizza ... er ... engine! But now I think it could also be seen as looking like a mini tower PC also with ventilation holes to keep it running cool
Steve, with all due respect, after this video i doubt any owner would be willing to let you have a go 😁
I get STRONG washing machine vibes from this car. Can't believe you served 30 seconds of penalties, and you weren't even last lol
AND you finish P6, you absolute legend
I actually managed to win one of these comfortably, also after serving a total of 30s of penalties, half due to my own mistakes, the other half being knocked into the wall from someone else mistakes. This was an absolute meme race and I loved it!
The crazy race videos are my favorites of yours, you always crack me up with your commentary on them
Man I need to get this game and experience these.. Only experience I've had similar to this in a GT game was the Mazda Furai in GT PSP.. that thing was insane to drive quick.
I drove it on 1 of the endurance missions on comfort hard tires I never wanna do that shit ever again 😂
Mr. Brown you always leave me laughing. Great video. You know it's a great race when you serve a 10 second penalty and don't get overtaken...lmao.
I’ve used it alot …with a good setup it’s well drivable and is pretty quick for grinds 😊😊
I remember trying to get used to this car on gt4. Its extremely high performance but twitchy as hell and super unforgiving. The real car is literally vacuumed down to the track, thats what the weird apparatus is on the back and why it has rubber skirts around the sides to keep the suction to the ground.
0:50 missed opportunity to throw the “I love refrigerators” meme in there 😂
This race was so hard I couldn’t drive the cars for shit
I swear it's been like two years that youtube hasn't recommended me your videos despite me being subscribed for much longer than that.
The ‘shap’ was in an old GT game I think 4 and prototype and it was phenomenal shame it’s as you say a handful now I haven’t yet used it in my gt7
This is .. curious. I took the fridge around Sardegna a few times month back, and don't remember it being nearly this difficult to drive.
I wonder if PD "broke it" with one update on another, like "forgetting" to factor in the downforce generated by the fans.
Wondering the same- I found it particularly easy in the PP800 race, and I noticed I set some random time trial laps with it a while back that I’m struggling to get anywhere near. The fact I don’t remember setting the original times suggests it wasn’t a super-stressful event.
Great racing Steve, keep it up! Greatings from Poland mate.
The worlds fastest Allotment Shed, with AC unit, ever. Sensational!
Somebody back there died😂 The Italian straight into the wall😂😂😂 I can’t breathe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
love driving this car in the sardegna world touring car 800 race.
With the right setup you can drive really good lap times
Did you know that Chaparral is integrated, my mate has one in his kitchen and you can fit any kind of cabinet door on it you like
LMAO I thought the thumb nail was a graphics card
Yeah I noticed when stock suspension tune it's pretty bad to drive. Glad someone whose good enough shows similar issues I have on controller. Doing a reverse rake, lowering the rear raising the front somewhat, will dull that oversteer problem out. Used it on sardena money grinding at 800pp, it was too harsh on fuel, but now tires force another pit anyway, so thata not an issue any more
If I remember correctly, this thing was so overpowered (High horse power) and the g forces so high during cornering that they decided it was a better idea to keep an automatic transmission, so the pilot could focus on piloting. Yes it did die a little on the exit of slow corners because automatic transmissions were like that, but it also meant less wheelspin. Essentially, traction control.
The Thumbnail had me thinking you were driving around in a Graphics card.... lmao!
Here's a tip from a video gamer that loves racing games and always places first. Never press the brake, only release throttle. Brakes are used for drifting only, and if you don't know when to brake then you should not.
I remember driving this car back in GT6 and what i actually found out about this car is that you can make the chaparral 2J the fastest car in reverse on SSRX.
Local Isle of your local fridge shop, man love your content! Keep up this good work!
bros doing donuts on the front straight lmao
8:25
Sir Jackie Steward once drove it and he said the 2J was amazing and he could not get it to spin. He said if you went too fast into a corner it would just very gently slide out of the corner in slow motion. He also said that the level of grip was amazing and he was overtaking other cars from the outside of the corner. So exactly the opposite of what the car is like in GT7.
Did you turn the 'downforce fans on? From what I remember, this Chaparral had a SECOND engine, about the size of a snowmobile engine, which powered fans than sucked the air from under the car, creating suction, which equals downforce. Maybe there's some secret switch that 'turns on' the fans......
They are on automatically, if u look closely at the fans, they are spinning
The car had a extreme blower out the back fans. It "cooled" by creating a giant vacuum under the car literally sucking it to the road. So its most like a vacuum cleaner or air conditioner in function.
This was a monster in previous games, especially GT5 ! Glad to see it up on GT even today
The fan system is actually not for ac. It was used to apply suction to create more down force sucking the car closer to the ground and blowing the air out back. It would increase downforce and traction while also disrupting the airflow behind it so that other cars tailing couldn’t take advantage of drafting close behind. The disruption in the airflow behind is ultimately why the technique for down force was banned. The car also had a hard time sticking the the track and you would randomly lose traction if the seal between the car flaps and ground wasn’t good enough (often on the turns).
This type of content by Super GT makes me feel much better about my GT abilities lol
great video , you need to try a cool wash in future haha .
Kinda looks like one of those vehicles that push planes back from the airport terminal 😂
Barry R Ovdeth really loves it when you guys give him the "bump".
Missed opportunity to insert the "i love refrigerators" guy, during the grid camera. Apart from that, exellent video and entertainment
Honestly as soon as I saw the Marlboro livery on the Kuwait Driver's car I couldn't get it out of my head that it looks like you're driving a pack of cigarettes
A/C unit out the back. LOL Good stuff Super GT!
When doing one of the missions but driving this car was sooo infuriating to drive but also fun
6:59 Fun Fact: The Driver with the name "Muerte" means Death in Spanish.
I saw the car at the Palm Springs (USA,Ca) historic races in the early 90s. I do not believe they ran the car it was just on display.
I remeber this "car" from Grandturismo 4 it was "posible" drive on oval track KEKW any orher track was nightmare
The washing machine from gt4. Was impossible to beat back in gt4, if you saw this car in a championship or race, it was just an immediate restart 😂
It's like that scene in The Simpsons where they're racing Marge's old washer and dryer in Moe's.
That vacuum air conditioning vacuum cleaner is probably faster than most vacuum cleaners and air conditioners
11:40 look at the last guy on the southeast corner of the map spinning around LMAO. Edit: He left shortly after lol.
My favourite car in GT6. I drove thousands (really, thousands) of laps of the Nurburgring 24hr course eventually wearing the engine down enough that it could be used in more PP limited races 🤣
I’ll be honest, as a musician, my first thought seeing the ass end of this thing was some sort of uber-powerful loud rack-mount Tube Power Amplifier
I remember this car back in GT4. I called it the rolling refrigerator, lol
I'm not sure it should behave like that. 650-680 HP is a lot, but the weight of the car, fuelled plus downforce, could be around 2000 kg-force, so it also had a lot of grip. What's important is that downforce in this car didn't change much with speed, so it had all that grip at any speed.
Man gt7 would be so much better if poliphany focused on filling out racing series like this, can am/group 6, group c1, 90's gto/gtu,, lmp2/lmp3 instead of just having one make to populate an entire grid. To me the diversity in cars all racing together is what makes a race interesting. Each car having different strengths and weaknesses. I'd love to see some other classes get the gr3/gr4 treatment. Oh and if they would take out those few cars in gr3 that make no damn sense, having an entire grid of modern gt3 cars racing alongside a 90's gt1 mclaren is just stupid.
"And ah.. refrigerator... and ah.. air con.... and uh refrigerator....and aircon... and refrigerator...." WE GET IT!!!!!
I done many grinds on that track with that car. When coming out of a turn, you must be gentle with the accelerator until all side pressure is gone or you continue to turn into the wall. No braking in turns. That said, it will out-turn just about everyone in a corner. If you are ever in Midland, TX they will let you sit inside the original car. Just think - if they hadn't outlawed it, there would have been entire grids full of these monstrosities in the US.
What the fans out the back are actually doing is blowing air out from under the car, thus creating a vacuum under the vehicle and by extension- *literal TONS* of downforce, even while standing at idle. This allows the car to turn on a dime while maintaining a slippery drag coefficient (at least, for the time), as you don't have a massive wing in the back acting like a parachute.
Only problem back in the 70s is that you literally made your opponents eat your dust, as the vacuum fans had a tendency to pick up debris from the track and YEET them out the back of the car, creating a massive dust cloud.
For this reason, I think the appliance it most resembles is a roomba :3
The most preposterous aspect of the high speed instability of the car, is the fact that the A/C unit on the back is there with the express purpose of sucking the car to the road
My uncle used to race in one of these he didn't say mutch about it but im guessing it was a pain in the ass to drive. He died 3 weeks later while racing it
That Marlboro paint job though.
The thumbnail of the PSUs on wheels got me.
I like the current version of the cheese wedge in GT7 because you can equip a 5-speed trans as opposed to the 3-speed,
makes it so much easier to drift. 😁
Ahhhh yes steve slaying the dishwasher with an A/C unit hanging out the back 😍
I thought of it more as a garbage disposal with ceiling fans lol
Hey I got one of those in my kitchen. Plenty in the local Euronics as well.
Haven't driven GT7, but the 2J in GT6 drove like it was on rails. You had to *try* to send it into a barrier.
This is like a go kart without brakes with a fridge as its body.
Steve boutta serve a 30sec penalty with a viewers aircon