Great video, nothing and I mean nothing beats practice. I have taken a few days to just going on and off the berth. I will see if I can video it next time.
Might seem silly but we always used the central cleat which once tightly fastened the boat couldn’t go anywhere giving you time to sort out the bow and stern lines. Worked for our 30 ton tsdy .
The same here if there is some side wind and I'm not in my home berth where all lines are prepared at the dock. Tying to any other cleat first will quickly let the stern or bow drift too much.
what a delight ! Taking classes from people who know their stuff, understand the key points and challenges and most of all have the terminology all complete!! Most of all i enjoy the smooth and low key tone of voice...it really communicates command of the process. Thank you Captain! PS: What boat is that by the way?
I'm driving old yatch a 1997 42ft sealine no bow thruster for almost 2 years 😅, I'm hoping I can find another boat another job that have bow thruster 😅
I have a 40 foot Tiara with twin diesels. No bow thruster. Would it come in handy? Perhaps but with diesels (like the yacht in this video) low torque is more important. I have no issue docking the Tiara even in snotty conditions. However I also have a 32 foot Everglades center console with twin 300's. It has a bow thruster and I find myself using it quite often in windy situations because the outboards do not have low torque like the Tiara.
Without bow thruster I would use a midship line and lasso the midship cleat. That way you have more control over the boat pivoting to the other boat or finger.
Thanks, great video and subscribed. Any comments or suggestions with boats that do not have a bow thruster? (I would think most boat makes should make them standard as [you said] docking is the most miserable experience a boater has). I have a slip that I keep my bow facing in - and the wind comes from the stern/starboard side. It always pushes me away from the dock (starboard side). My thought is to come in on an angle against the wind - but any suggestions would be appreciated.
Just what I was thinking - dual motors and bow thruster is easy. Single engine and rudder with no bow thruster and 50' of windage aloft - that's a challenge (but of course 6 feet and 5000 kg of keel below helps).
True ,George, also worth mentioning that outdrives (stern-drives), tend to sometimes, depending on propeller sizes,has little prop-walk- aka-; transverse thrust, hence the reason for driving that vessel like it has an outboard engine.
Would like to see it without the bow thruster. If he didn’t have one I think would have blown into the sailboat when reversing into slip. That’s the hardest part when you get in the pocket but you are just a bit too far off the dock. What then??
You started well, informed us what the helm was doing as well as what engine was in astern, but after that, it went tits up. When you mentioned about clicking forward, you didn't say that you'd brought stbd engine to neutral and clicked forward with port engine, turning helm hard to stbd. This is what's confusing to people, a slow description of what you are doing is a must.
why he uses that much the wheel ? ? i have a larger boat than this one and ALWAYS do any kind of maneuver with just engines and bow thruster ...? I am not complaining at ALL this, just I wonder why this technic ? ? ?
You get far greater spin created with outdrives turned full lock and single engine engaged. You can of course still get a lot of spin happening with twins driving opposite directions but i find far faster spin created using single and full lock
@@kenlee-97 Skunks don't stink normally but they can spray and make other animals stink. The point is that if there is modern equipment facilitating life, why the hell not use it then? Would you go down to the harbor and tell the captain of a container ship "Don't use the bow thruster, there are tug boats for that!"? I find it ridiculous to trash talk bow thrusters. They are very good for docking and undocking. If you don't want to use them, fine, I wont come pulling your drain plug for that.
Ok. Now try that as a single operator when no one is tying the boat for you and no bow thruster. And if you really want to give advice, do it without steering input on twin engines. Otherwise this is beginner training. Not to say that your video is not useful for some, but it’s pretty basic for many.
Lots of wheel spinning you're doing. Gee... having a bow thuster saved your day. How about showing us with just engines only? Looks like you have twin screws, so why are you not using them?
Ha ha Mike...well i have to sort of sympathize with you..BUT: my dad was old school, and all we had was twin engines, and a lot of guidance from my old man himself - nevertheless I am grateful for the bow thruster these days, if it makes it easier and safer - why not!! ??
@@treydrier3169 indeed... but not only bow thrusters...will give you another analogy: i happen to be a pilot as well, when i was trained it was old school guages, where one had to really understand how they work, INSIDE, and how they transmit information to the pilot, and only then comes the part where the pilot interprets the information and makes a judgment call. Today, with the Glass cockpit being so ubiquitous even in the smallest of aircraft (and boats) it took me years to accept that flight students didnt really have to go through the pain of training with old antiquated technologies but embrace the new. I also thought theyre "cheating'" by having all this information at their fingertips while we had to really calculate our way to qualified information. . I guess its also a matter of our personal comfort zone as well. dont you think?
@@mariscalcus7 Hi Maris, great question, what I would do is to suggest to throw the bight of the line (rope), so that it catches on the bollard on the wharf to then secure the boat and then the loose end that you now have in your hand, to secure it to the same cleat on the boat as you have already attached the other end of the rope on already. In the interests of safety, you should do all of this preferably standing on a part of the vessel that you normally walk on, that's not anywhere close to falling off the swim platform into the water. Cheers.
But what about for 99% of us who don't have bow thrusters? I'm confused by you videos. They aren't helping the majority of us. That "little bit of bow thrust" you mention is kind of a big deal.
@@skunkjobb fair enough but I've just bought a 31ft sports cruiser which doesn't have bow thrusters. I'm guessing most people don't buy a massive 50ft as their first boat. These instructional videos are only relevant to boat owners with bow thrusters... which means a big vessel... which probably means prior experience and no need to watch videos. So I still don't see the point of these videos.
Hahahaha!!! This is a joke right? Dude there is NO WIND. Is this make believe...."lets pretend there's 50 knot winds". It's literally as calm as can be. Look at the trees, no movement. Barely a ripple in the marina. Cmon show us in a REAL world situation especially if that is the subject of the video. Its like saying "I'm going to show you how to use a 357 Magnum" but pulling out a BB gun. Lol!
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Can you show me how to do that without a bow thruster? Twin screws, 50' OA.
Many thanks for this, John. It would be great to see some of these videos repeated using a single engine boat.
Agreed, enjoyable videos but always in a very expensive new twin screw boat. I would like to see it with a 25ft single stern drive (Like mine:))
Fantastic. My heart would still be in my mouth! Thank you.
Great video, nothing and I mean nothing beats practice. I have taken a few days to just going on and off the berth. I will see if I can video it next time.
Could you do the same using engines only and no steering? I see you've used the wheel quite a bit here
I use that technique on our 38ft with out bow truster. Just need to get the line on the bow first. Safe boating!
Love these instructional videos. Keep up the good work.
Might seem silly but we always used the central cleat which once tightly fastened the boat couldn’t go anywhere giving you time to sort out the bow and stern lines. Worked for our 30 ton tsdy .
The same here if there is some side wind and I'm not in my home berth where all lines are prepared at the dock. Tying to any other cleat first will quickly let the stern or bow drift too much.
As always, great advice, expertly given. Many thanks, keep ‘em coming 😁
what a delight ! Taking classes from people who know their stuff, understand the key points and challenges and most of all have the terminology all complete!! Most of all i enjoy the smooth and low key tone of voice...it really communicates command of the process. Thank you Captain! PS: What boat is that by the way?
Like a Boss
Great video
Keep them coming please
👍👍
Makes it look so easy. Great job.
You explained it all very well, great vid!
Very nice maneuver!
Thank you for this, really helpful
Great explanations and well done! 😊
A very good video for people learning the ropes!
One of the best video's I've watched. Thanks for sharing this incredible lesson..
Excellent! Thank you.
Very useful video... thanks
Nice work.
I'm driving old yatch a 1997
42ft sealine no bow thruster for almost 2 years 😅, I'm hoping I can find another boat another job that have bow thruster 😅
Good video. Though i can't see why bow thruster have become the norm nowadays even on twin engines boats. Are they necessary?
I have a 40 foot Tiara with twin diesels. No bow thruster. Would it come in handy? Perhaps but with diesels (like the yacht in this video) low torque is more important. I have no issue docking the Tiara even in snotty conditions. However I also have a 32 foot Everglades center console with twin 300's. It has a bow thruster and I find myself using it quite often in windy situations because the outboards do not have low torque like the Tiara.
@@treydrier3169 Hi Trey,is your 40 ft tiara a stern-drive/outdrive like the boat in this vid or do you have twin shafts?
Without bow thruster I would use a midship line and lasso the midship cleat. That way you have more control over the boat pivoting to the other boat or finger.
Nice to see the white board
Great video. Boy you make it look easy
I'm normally single-handed, so into wind & or current is always the best option...
Why is your other hand normally up the skirt of some BROAD! -(colloquial American slang term denoting a female).
These are great. Keep them up!!
Ok same scenario using no thruster
This is want we really need to see
perfect presentation . bravo
Thanks, great video and subscribed. Any comments or suggestions with boats that do not have a bow thruster? (I would think most boat makes should make them standard as [you said] docking is the most miserable experience a boater has). I have a slip that I keep my bow facing in - and the wind comes from the stern/starboard side. It always pushes me away from the dock (starboard side). My thought is to come in on an angle against the wind - but any suggestions would be appreciated.
anyone can dock with a bow thruster, how about showing some real skills and not using them?
Just what I was thinking - dual motors and bow thruster is easy. Single engine and rudder with no bow thruster and 50' of windage aloft - that's a challenge (but of course 6 feet and 5000 kg of keel below helps).
@@kingwr12 not to mention power steering
Is all about using the bow thruster, the C.O.D. and/or the joystick the correct way😂
Love the video tho.
Great video Jon.
So thanks...
Congratulacions.
Ponta Grossa city
Brazil
Why are you using the steering wheel to turn into the berth rather then using the engines?
Very helpfull
No need to touch the wheel. Boating 101
True ,George, also worth mentioning that outdrives (stern-drives), tend to sometimes, depending on propeller sizes,has little prop-walk- aka-; transverse thrust, hence the reason for driving that vessel like it has an outboard engine.
Would like to see it without the bow thruster. If he didn’t have one I think would have blown into the sailboat when reversing into slip. That’s the hardest part when you get in the pocket but you are just a bit too far off the dock. What then??
What! No rear view camera?
Parking a boat in the wind is always dangerous. I'm always relief once were out of the marina.
Helpful theory, but those flags were barely flying for much of the time. Let's see that in a F.6.
Do it without the bow thruster.
Back in not reverse in
wow, that water looked so choppy, I was waiting for the RNLI to be called out.
You started well, informed us what the helm was doing as well as what engine was in astern, but after that, it went tits up. When you mentioned about clicking forward, you didn't say that you'd brought stbd engine to neutral and clicked forward with port engine, turning helm hard to stbd. This is what's confusing to people, a slow description of what you are doing is a must.
I wish I had bow thrusters.
YOU DO CLIVE, YOU DO ,JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND CLIVE!
Bravissimo
En caso de te malogre el truster, ya fuiste mucho te confías .
Easy when you have a bow thruster..
why he uses that much the wheel ? ? i have a larger boat than this one and ALWAYS do any kind of maneuver with just engines and bow thruster ...? I am not complaining at ALL this, just I wonder why this technic ? ? ?
Sterndrives/outdrives means less transverse thrust than twin shafts.
You get far greater spin created with outdrives turned full lock and single engine engaged. You can of course still get a lot of spin happening with twins driving opposite directions but i find far faster spin created using single and full lock
You had me until "touch of the bow thruster" 👎
Do you wash your clothes by hand just to make it the old way?
@@skunkjobb skunks don't wear clothes? ,but regardless prefer to stink anyways.
@@kenlee-97 Skunks don't stink normally but they can spray and make other animals stink. The point is that if there is modern equipment facilitating life, why the hell not use it then? Would you go down to the harbor and tell the captain of a container ship "Don't use the bow thruster, there are tug boats for that!"?
I find it ridiculous to trash talk bow thrusters. They are very good for docking and undocking. If you don't want to use them, fine, I wont come pulling your drain plug for that.
Ok. Now try that as a single operator when no one is tying the boat for you and no bow thruster. And if you really want to give advice, do it without steering input on twin engines. Otherwise this is beginner training. Not to say that your video is not useful for some, but it’s pretty basic for many.
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Where’s the wind?
Great teaching style. Would be great to having these lessons not in a million dollar boat with stern drive system and bow thrusters.
Not bad considering it was blowing a gale ....
Really? Could have fooled me. Looks like there is literally zero wind and not even a ripple in the marina.
Lots of wheel spinning you're doing. Gee... having a bow thuster saved your day. How about showing us with just engines only? Looks like you have twin screws, so why are you not using them?
A bow thruster...! Who uses a bow thruster? :-))
Ha ha Mike...well i have to sort of sympathize with you..BUT: my dad was old school, and all we had was twin engines, and a lot of guidance from my old man himself - nevertheless I am grateful for the bow thruster these days, if it makes it easier and safer - why not!! ??
@@panosp94 ....sigh... the point is 90% of the boats out there have no bow thruster.
@@treydrier3169 indeed... but not only bow thrusters...will give you another analogy: i happen to be a pilot as well, when i was trained it was old school guages, where one had to really understand how they work, INSIDE, and how they transmit information to the pilot, and only then comes the part where the pilot interprets the information and makes a judgment call. Today, with the Glass cockpit being so ubiquitous even in the smallest of aircraft (and boats) it took me years to accept that flight students didnt really have to go through the pain of training with old antiquated technologies but embrace the new. I also thought theyre "cheating'" by having all this information at their fingertips while we had to really calculate our way to qualified information. . I guess its also a matter of our personal comfort zone as well. dont you think?
Way too much use of the steering wheel. When I dock my boat I center the engines and use the transmission no steerng.
There should never be a crewman standing on the transom. That is very dangerous.
And how exactly are you supposed to run a stern line if there is noone on the dock?? You've obviously never docked a boat.
Sorry you are TOTALLY CORRECT, AS THAT PERSON CAN FALL OVERBOARD AND BE KILLED BY THE PROPS-(A MASTER-
@@mariscalcus7 Hi Maris, great question, what I would do is to suggest to throw the bight of the line (rope), so that it catches on the bollard on the wharf to then secure the boat and then the loose end that you now have in your hand, to secure it to the same cleat on the boat as you have already attached the other end of the rope on already. In the interests of safety, you should do all of this preferably standing on a part of the vessel that you normally walk on, that's not anywhere close to falling off the swim platform into the water. Cheers.
Oh, I get it. Everybody's got thrusters? Nah, 99% of us don't so, why's this even a video?
But what about for 99% of us who don't have bow thrusters? I'm confused by you videos. They aren't helping the majority of us. That "little bit of bow thrust" you mention is kind of a big deal.
On boats of this size, most have bow thrusters.
@@skunkjobb fair enough but I've just bought a 31ft sports cruiser which doesn't have bow thrusters. I'm guessing most people don't buy a massive 50ft as their first boat. These instructional videos are only relevant to boat owners with bow thrusters... which means a big vessel... which probably means prior experience and no need to watch videos. So I still don't see the point of these videos.
Hahahaha!!! This is a joke right? Dude there is NO WIND. Is this make believe...."lets pretend there's 50 knot winds". It's literally as calm as can be. Look at the trees, no movement. Barely a ripple in the marina. Cmon show us in a REAL world situation especially if that is the subject of the video. Its like saying "I'm going to show you how to use a 357 Magnum" but pulling out a BB gun. Lol!