Can you SPEED in an Average Speed Check?!
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Average Speed Checks suck for any Driver! But can you speed, even just a little bit in an Average Speed Check? With some basic Maths and Science, maybe, is the answer..
Once again, I do not condone speeding. Average Speed Checks are there, to save lives. 
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It turns out, the answer is more complicated than you think...
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You can do 200mph if you’re willing to spend the next half an hour in a lay-by.
True
False. You can be clocked by a police car at any time.
@@neuralwarp Maybe thirty years ago. Good luck finding one now. 😂
@neuralwarp was talking about average speed cameras not police cars or camera vans
Bruh speed is distance/time not time/distance
George Champion was about to say that 😂😂
I Ooopp, You're right 🤦♂️
@@handbrake3057 "GCSE level math" I know I'm late
"Basic GCSE level maths" - my guy it's speed = distance / time. Good video though!
That’s what he said ??
@@josephwilliams6743 Nope. He said time / distance
LoooooL I was thinking that aswell
That's what I thought 😂😂
Nobody mentioning the fact he just said 60 in a 50 is 'well over'??? How 😂
Driving in an average speed area of the motorway is tedious balancing that throttle at say 50 mph, I fortunately have cruise control and that makes it easier, as as a bonus I also have a 'distance between the car in front' button that keeps me at a set safe distance from the car in front therefore reducing or increasing my speed up to 50 mph automatically, then you get some fhooking whanker who pulls in between you and the car in front and fhooks up the whole system.
When the 70 limit was first enforced it only was in action for 9 hours of the day, or during daylight. It’s changed since then
Interesting question: do average speed cameras have the usual tolerance of normal speed cameras? I know China maintains the tolerance (there is no applicable ticket for going less than 1.1x the speed limit). Not having any tolerance would force people to cruise slower than the speed limit.
I was driving up the A66 West bound near Appleby and there is an average speed camera system there and you can hardly see them. The speed limit is 40mph. I went through 1 camera under the speed limit then pulled into the petrol station for about 20 minutes. I set off carrying on along the same route didn't see the 2nd average speed camera I think I was doing 53mph managed to slow down about 2/3 meters just before I passed the camera. Am I expecting a speeding ticket?
I think the way the camera s work is by working out your average speed between the two points, not your speed at the places where the cameras are located - if you spent 20 mins at a services then chances are your average speed would be very low. There may of course have been other cameras. You would normally hear within 14 days.
I always set my speed to 10% of speed limit and have never got a ticket whilst doing this. UK - And yep, usually overtaking most people (although very slowly 🤣)
Nice video!
When these speed checks first came out you could 'fool them' by switching lanes however that's no longer case these days as the ANPR technology has improved.
*chuckles nervously in motorbike*
Na the 10% plus 2 mile an hour is confirmed by most police forces. Some only do 10% and some only 10% + 1mph. You can find it online
Yh someone did a freedom of information act on it
I drive the A9 in Scotland regularly. I know every timed section, which are the camera A's and B's. I always re-set the average speed on the trip computer when i hit camera A's, for peace of mind.
yup and when you pass the last one before your exit it's fair game! :)
I use the average speed setting on my instrument cluster when passing through these average speed areas as well. Reset it at each camera and if you come across slow traffic (we have plenty of farm vehicles on the roads where I live) you can pass them quickly and then adjust your speed down enough to be back to the required average speed before the next camera. We also have stretches of road with average speed cameras and side roads. People joining or leaving between camera locations can go at any speed they want without triggering a penalty. I would just point out that the roads are usually single carriageway only.
I was on the A9 this April and I've heard lots of the cameras don't work on those roads
Underrated af
The 10℅+2 rule is widely used but does depend on police authority .A report was obtained last year using FOI ( think it was which or RAC)details and of those police authorities who returned info most were using 10%rule. At the end of day speeding fines are a big earner and if you're 1 mph over limit you're speeding in eye of law.
Essex Police have no tolerance hence they make a fortune.
If you wanna go fast and avoid a ticket just put some tape over the wee lights for your reg or disconnect the fuse for them so if you get pulled over you can say you had no idea they were out
I often drive on the M4 from Heathrow to Bristol at 60 mph in the and never had a ticket
I've just been caught doing 60 in a 50 zone I was undertaking as I was joining onto the motorway and didn't realize I did it. Force of habit of normally joining on a motorway at full speed
Today, I think, same thing happened for me. What happened to you? Thanks
@@alpagutmehmetelen3636 luckily nothing mate
That’s why I’m here same thing happened to me, now I’m waiting to see what gonna happen
55 mph won't get you a ticket but 56 might
I did get one for 56 🤦🏻♂️
@@astrix1014 🤣
@@deeeeeeeench1209 bet you can’t afford a car🤣
@@astrix1014 I drive for a living
@@astrix1014 Why say that
I always go between 51-53mph in the 50 zones, but I have CC so I'm constantly at that speed, then my speedo is probably off by a couple more mph anyway.
Truth be told, I usually set my cruise to a speedo 59MPH in a 50 average check zone. Means I'm only doing a real 54/55MPH and gives me a couple MPH more to play with if I need to boost it up a by a couple to get past someone who can't decide on a speed. Never had an issue with that and find that it's only people going a significant margin above the limit who pass me.
you doing 59??? in 50.i done same and got ticked, same average speed…..
@@Akeso_ppp Your Speedo may well overread less than mine. 57 actual is when you'll get a ticket.
@@tomj. u say done 59 and nothing??
@@Akeso_ppp 59 on the Speedo. Since the Speedo overreads, it means I'm actually doing 54/55. You can check how much yours does with GPS on your phone.
Bit dodgy that. I set mine to 10%+, gives a little wiggle room in case I’m going down hill and the speed increases.
The 10%+2 for speed cameras is disproven because I got clocked at 35 in a 30 in Leigh Sinton and someone else on the speed awareness course said they were doing 34. They probably won't get you at 31 or 32 but not sure. Birmingham is annoying because they have speed cameras on roads I'm not sure if they are a 30 or 40 limit. I'm not sure for average speed cameras.
Speed is actually distance/time ; not the inverse as stated in your video .
I guess "basic GCSE level maths" isn't that basic for him! 🤣
Did make me laugh with basic maths comment and then got it wrong 😂
All this taken into account. My manager and uncle speed anywhere and everywhere and have hardly had any fines or points so it leads to fact that majority of cameras in U.K. don’t work
Adam Yes you're correct, a lot of the camera's are just there as deterrents nowadays as they were turned of years ago but if you go into a new area you can't be 100% sure if there cameras are active or not.
@@thew4rrior5code Yh it’s so true. I’ve been flashed myself once but nothing came in post
Also if you notice police are always next to these speed cameras either just before or just after which is pretty obviously showing the cameras don’t work
Adam in my opinion it's only the average speed and police vans that are active the gatso and travelo's are all pretty much offline.
In my country its 15 km/h + that they give you. If speed limit is 40 and average speed in 54 you are ok. If its 56 you are fined. In my country georgia it's common practice that people drive limit speed +10 km/h. Its ensres you are fast as possible while being safe on fine
Yes but here in Australia they have they have a speed van between the average speed camera's, but here our average speed camera's are much further apart.
Average Speed Cameras are not set at the exact speed limit ie 50mph, they are set at approximately 3mph over ie 53mph.
10% + 2 is merely a guideline given to police, they can ticket you at 1MPH over but they are recommended to give this leeway as proving 1 MPH over is difficult, and they need to take into account accuracy of their equipment. It’s just easier to prosecute or fine this way, and save wasting of tax payers money. Some county’s in the UK will have a different rule some being just 10% not allowing an additional 2.
My mother-in-law (who isn't the brightest candle in the box) got caught speeding in an 'average speed' zone. She travelled the same stretch of road every day to get to and from work. However on Thursday, there was an accident, so she had to slow down, then was stationary for about 30 minutes, before gradually picking up speed and carrying on her way. She knows that average means "add them all together, then divide by how many there are", so on Friday, she thought "I was stationary for 30 minutes yesterday, so today I can go faster than the speed limit, because my average will still be OK!" When I say she isn't the brightest, there have been times when she has come to stay at our home. When she arrives, my other half offers her a drink, to which she replies "I shouldn't really, I've been driving". We remind her that she's not going anywhere, but she insists that she shouldn't drink and drive.
On another note, police forces in the UK can enforce their own interpretation of the "10% + 2mph" rule. Technically, anyone can be charged with speeding for going 1mph over the limit, so the 10% + 2mph is just a guideline. My neighbour got caught twice, by a mobile camera while taking his wife to work, then returning again 15 minutes later. The speed limit is 20mph and his penalties were for travelling at 23mph and 26mph.
For a 50 zone In my Kia, I can set the Cruise Control to 59mph (56) and in the last 4+ years have had zero speeding tickets.
But the obvious solution for you worriers is to use Waze and just slow to 56mph (53) about 300m from the camera.
In my opinion all major A-roads should use ASC zones as the data clearly shows a 23% reduction in collisions.
So what’s stopping you slowing down after you have past the first cam say you were doing 70 in A 60 then keep to 55 until u reach the next one
Nothing! As long as it averages out..
@@handbrake3057 that’s good if true cheers that’s how it seams to me
It is averaged over the distance between cameras and also between groups of camera (first and third as well as first and second, second and third). So for example a 1 mile gap between two cameras on a 60mph road means you should take at least 1 minute to go that mile. If you did the first 1/2 mile at 90mph it would take 20 seconds so you would have to travel the second 1/2 mile in 40 seconds, so at 45mph, to average 60 overall. Trying to do these calculations in your head when driving is probably going to be too hard and also distracting when you are driving. An average speed display that can be reset at each camera makes this relatively easy to do. So if I was doing this on a single carriageway road and you were travelling at 55 when I caught up to you I could speed up to overtake you then slow to a speed that would take me down to an average of 60 before the next camera. The amount of time I spent behind you at 55 would determine the speed I would be able to go at once past you to hit 60 at the next camera. This is really useful for passing people who seem to be so scared by speed cameras that they drop to 10mph lower than the speed limit to be safe from prosecution for speeding and for slow farm traffic.
In the UK it can be argued that average speed checks are illegal. It is necessary to track where the car went and that infringes the right to privacy.
Do you get points on your license from average cameras ?
Yes. They’re treated as any other speeding penalty. Depends on the severity on the county thou
I ALWAYS do 10% above the speed limit and have not yet got a speeding ticket *shrugs*
Scotland has zero tolerance I found out but maybe other places too
Foot balancing act ? Then get a car with cruise control , set your speed and just watch the road ahead of you . Simplicity itself and no different from setting cc to the applicable limit on any road .
Ah yes, because everyone can just “get a new car”, right?
So I have to go into my bank account and get hunreds or thousands for a new car, may as well just pay the speeding fine.
Another way not to get caught speeding abeit 100% illegal would be to alter your license plates like make them extra dirty or something so they can’t be read. Or fit a device that flips the plate like james bonds car. Or just go and find a car that is the same make, model and colour of yours and swap that cars plates with yours.
....or just stick to the speed limit in the first place!! At the end of the day is it worth it to get somewhere 2 minutes faster?
@@iainferguson764 trip of 4 hour journey from Manchester can be done in 1hr 30mins by speeding. Not recommend to do it but it does save time.
@@iainferguson764 it’s not about the speed. It’s about more and more control the government has over peoples free choice
I always chuck the cruise control at 55 and cruise by 95% of people
It always makes me laugh how people slow down for the camera and then speed up. Most people haven't got a clue how they work.
Lots of accidents are caused by cyclists with no insurance and in lots of cases no knowledge of the highway code however the rules don't seem to apply to this group of road users according to the government
I would love to see a video about famous offenders, people who you wouldn't expect to speed
Oooo, that's not a bad shout. I can already think of some good ones!
I do the average speed. 50 in my case. Still get overtaken by others at 60, 70. They must only be doing it a very short period.
If it says 40 stay at 40 , not worth getting a fine.
John Donohoe rubbish I have done 55 in 50mph zones forever never once had a ticket.
I'm with ya 100%
I hoped this video to be more of an explanation, for why you always see people speeding by in Average Speed Checks 🤔
@@deeeeeeeench1209 also 75 to 77 on motorways
Mikey Scott 75 to 110 on motorway well only if you don't have a dreadful car cackles at Suzuki cars 🤣
Or just go th way without the speed checks
I’ve known for ages that my speedo is 2mph faster & I set my limiter to account for that, then get held up by people who are working off their speedo 🤦♀️ my sister’s speedo reads 4mph faster than actual GPS speed…she already drives like a snail so I can imagine she causes other drivers issues 😂
the short answer is that anyone can speed on any road as long as they are prepared to accept the consequences .
I rather think you meant to ask whether it is possible to exceed the speed limit within an average speed check and not be caught ; the answer is that if you do exceed the limit at one point between average speed checkpoints , you must go under the limit sufficiently to bring your average speed back within the limit .
Having said that , it is still an offence to exceed the speed limit at any point within the average speed check , so if you happen to be caught by an unmarked police vehicle , or by any other means , you can still be charged .
Money racket! Simple
GPS indicated speed + cruise control is your friend.
I don’t have a problem with speed cameras however I do have a problem with variable speed cameras on motorways. I don’t see how you can legally change a speed limit and make you slow down to the new limit in a couple of seconds and before anyone says they give you a grace period legally they shouldn’t as the speed limit is in a red circle so it should be enforceable from the very Millisecond it changes. The thing is it’s dangerous they know it’s dangerous but will they change it not in a million years… This can easily be solved by changing the speed limit and removing the red circle for 1 minute to allow people to adjust to the new limit. Gantries have the power to do this but they never do….
10% + 2 is about right. They dont want too many tickets that can be contested so make sure its enough to be a conviction. You can speed in an average speed zone because its "average". 50mph on the car is about 47mph if you use GPS so in a 50mph limit zone keep under 54mph on the GPS average and you will never see a ticket. Thats why it looks like some people speed a lot but really its the margin up and down your seeing. Hence your going too slow and trucks overtake you at your reported 50mph but the trucks GPS is on 50 - 52mph. I drive around 1000 miles a week and have done this for years. I will say if the Overhead speed signs post 60, 50, 40 like round Birmingham random you need to make sure you go through cameras observing the same rule 10% +2 so 80mph on a 70mph using the clock wont get a flash but 80 GPS can get you a flash. Likewise if it says 50mph dont go through more than 57mph or its a risk. Thats how I do it anyway. Sick of the whole country getting slower and slower but its fine to do 60mph toward each other on a 10 foot wide road in the dark yet the motorway is a fucking joke...
Trucks should be banned from doing less than 56 mph as well as they are a fucking pain in the ass!! As for A and some B roads allow them to do 60mph again, its like the fucking horse and cart days some runs.
I am doing the same just checking speed on GPS. Funny think is most people go under 70mph that funny and they still slow down next to camera when I fly by next to them 81 mph in my Merc but in GPS showing 76mph
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@@handbrake3057 legend
"Basic GCSE Maths"
- Writes "Speed = Time/Distance" haha
Dudes making this a way bigger deal than it is. speed cameras aren't that harsh you could do roughly 5 over and be safe if you can't keep your car within 5 mph when trying you should be off the road
0:42, nope screwed it up.... Speed = Distance/Time
The 10% plus two is what the police is allowing for human errow but in fact they don't do it, So going 21 in a 20 speed limit will get you a ticket.
Actually, by switching lanes your not tricking the camera your invalidating a ticket. Gaining speed in order to pass a vehicle SAFELY is allowed within the UK law, and thus as the camera cannot see you do this they have to dismiss the ticket.
What are you implying, doing over the speed limit is legal as long as you are overtaking? Nonsense. The official Highway Code advise is that overtaking drivers should move quickly past the vehicle in front, but only when it's safe and LEGAL to do so. If you have to speed to do a safe overtake you are breaking the law and can be prosecuted.
i got 3points for this avera speed…..50limit, saying i was doing 60
Any Laws that harms no one but costs YOU money (fines) should be reviewed... check the Bill of rights for fines,, they are illegal unless you have been found guilty of a crime
1) the construction & use regs allow speedometers to over indicate by a maximum of 10% at any given speed from 25mph upwards
2) the distance between cameras is the distance travelled along the road ; not the 'as the crow flies' distance between sites
) the speed limit is absolute : you can be convicted for 1mph over the limit ; the 10% +2 mph is the ACPO GUIDELINE which is used by many forces , BUT NOT ALL , and if you come across a traffic officer in abad mood you CAN be charged for 1 mph over .
Beyond all this it's worth saying that it's not Speed that kills it's the nut behind the steering wheel ! Speed can be perfectly safe when used appropriately. Far too many "fastards" are not capable of handling speed if the slightest thing goes wrong. The place for high speeds is the race track not the highways. The best speed limits are placed so that pedestrians know what to expect. The worst are put there to catch revenue and are often sneaky and not a contribution to road safety. Education is better prevention than cure - trouble is it needs brain-washing for some gits.
I swear I speed every ducking day m4 now is 50mph I speed 70 to 100 never got a ticket
You must take your talent to the race track bruh it'll make your mama proud
@@loq02_orig ur mama is already proud of me for speeding on M4 ur lovely mum even said she will take ur sister next time to join her on the ride
@@Blackpanther-kj1jl I bet your a die hard fan of Paul Walker on "the Fast and Furious" dude ,say hi to him when you see soon, it'll make your mama sooo proud of you sony boy boy
The cameras on the A90 from Dundee to Aberdeen don't do you unless you are doing 78+ mph. The law must require extra speed at parts in order to overtake slower vehicles like arctic lorries. If this wasn't allowed it would be unsafe as drivers would become inpatient whilst also causing delays. But you should be sticking to 70mph if there's no need to overtake
These cameras were installed when the limit was 60mph. After the dual carriageway limit was raised to 70 they effectively became redundant. I doubt they would ever catch anybody. A complete wasre of money.
Cheers mate I've been looking for this comment, was coming back from Montrose and went a bit too fast on the way back to Aberdeen.
There is no defence in law that you were speeding in order to make an overtake. Put simply, in the eyes of the law, if you can't finish the overtake without speeding then you shouldn't have started it. It's a very common misconception that you're "allowed" to speed whilst overtaking.
I got 3 points for doing 10MPH through a average speed zone,i was told you’ll only get a fine,was well gutted
Sorry, but speed is NOT time divided by distance. Please correct it.
0:34 , looks like you did not do 'basic level English' as you would know that it is maths and not math...
At least I know how use punctuation correctly 😬 - Maybe learn how to use a ‘,’
@@handbrake3057 when you completley ignore the point and instead reply with a sh!tty comeback...
@Jordan Robshaw aaaaand this is a british youtuber....
dont make a video when you dont really know how they work, its just more confusing, the video has no point literally
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I did 70 in a 50 in an average speed check and got no ticket, confused
I thought they were just fixed cameras 😭😭😂 but now go 50 in average speed checks
Wait so does that mean on motorways like the M4, the cameras are still set to 70 speed for fines even tho there are 50 speed limit sings everywhere?
On multiple carriage way roads such as motorways it is possible for a large vehicle to obscure you from a camera. If this is the case you may not get spotted by some cameras and so not get a ticket. However when there are multiple cameras the average between all sections is calculated to account for this. So you may get spotted by the 1st and 4th camera and the average for those will be calculated so doing 90 before you realised there were cameras then getting held up in traffic may not trigger a penalty.
maybe don't drive a silly little toy car then...
Just stick with your speed limit
There for a reason
And s speed limit isnt a speed target either