I agree heck I'd even argue she had the most radical design change from classic to modern! Hopefully in the coming years we get more concept art and information unveiled
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That would be insane! The Perfect Chaos picture was probably my favorite out of the whole bunch..it blew me away when I saw it. Also thought it was really interesting even from the beginning Sonic Team wanted a giant dragon coming out of a building. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching :)
@@caramelcandys Yes! I read somewhere (I'll try to find it) that Izuka said the Generations version of Perfect Chaos was always what the team "envisioned" him to look like while developing SA1 but the in-game technical limitations at the time held them back. (I can't get the actual magazine interview but here is the link to where I found it, its in the trivia section if interested: sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Perfect_Chaos_(Sonic_Generations)#cite_note-1)
At least a spin-off manga (no pun intended) kinda like the Pokémon Manga or Legend of Zelda Manga. I’d die to have an opportunity to make a fan rendition, but there’s probably so many out there...
I always like when creators show their concept art to the public. It's really interesting to see how a game changed through the development cycle. When I first saw these Sega Saturn concepts I was impressed by how good it looked even for an old console with blocky 3D. Another good example is the concept art in Mega Man Legacy Collection 1&2 as some of the things there were also very interesting and not well known (for example in MMLC2 in the Mega Man 8 section there's concept art for Block Man's weapon from Mega Man 11, a game which released about 20 years later).
SAME! The concept art pieces are so interesting in my opinion and how the translate to the final game. The Saturn pictures were so interesting in my opinion, remined me of the OG FF7 models for some reason lol. I haven't played Mega Man but I need to check them out, I heard the OG's and X are great! Thanks for watching as always and hope you enjoyed :)
@@dcvmu This may be true but my point still stands as there are unused things that appeared in later games like the spring enemy which was cut from MM1 and returned in MM2 (as seen in the concept art section of the gallery).
The colours aren't actually darker in the guidebook, if you try and recreate them based on the codes you'll see that. they just seem darker because of the scan itself. They're also by and large the colours still used today, with only minor changes- skin tones were lightened as were grey tones, but the reds, blues, etc are still the same. Also, that Tikal "final counterpart" is fanart inking exactly of that concept art sketch. The first official 2d art of Tikal only came with the Sonic Channel site.
thanks for the heads up! It was brought to my attention about the Tikal coloring being done by KojiChao on SonicCult back in the 2003-2005 range, my mistake on that. That's an interesting fact about the colors though and I appreciate you pointing that out! Hope you enjoyed the video & thanks for watching :)
5:08 It is cool that Generations designed Perfect Chaos as originally intended. The extra layer of scales is present in the original, but much more noticeable in Generations.
I agree it’s really cool the team was able to come back and actually follow up on the vision they originally had when the hardware was available for it
I 100% agree! It's able to mix an islandy tropical aesthetic with a modern and mystical/fantasy at the same time. It's crazy! Hope you enjoyed the video!
The knuckles clan is so interesting to me. And the Lost World stage, super mysterious, it’s just so cool lol. That concept art was so amazing, if we ever do get a remake I hope some of those old concepts get put into the stage
I 100% agree, I still feel theres alot of untapped potential with that corner of the universe (heck we got a whole frickin Bioware RPG in regards to it and it STILL felt like there was more untapped potential with it). I hope we do get a remake as stuff like that and the storyboards would make perfect inclusions in the game to really elevate it from just a graphical paintjob update. Lost World still kinda freaks me out in some ways with the music cues at certain sections like the darkness area or the boulder run section!
Seeing concept art is always a big joy for me, especially when its from a game that i consider to be my first game ive played as a child. Also thank you SO much for adding all the sources for easier access to the artwork
Same here and its a similar story for me with this game! Im happy to hear you checked the sources out, if you have any questions or anything let me know and I can try my best to help!
If they were to do a remake what I’d really like to see is unlockable skins for the charatcers much like how Crash 4 did it as there’s a lot of concept designs much like that one...which looked super awesome but will never see the light of an actual 3D translation. Here’s hoping though :)
duuuuudeeeee you killed it on this video. I usually don't comment on the quality of videos, but this was A1. The small bits of humor were my favorite, they were subtle jokes and then you went straight back to the point. subbed.
thanks so much im so happy to hear you enjoyed, it really means alot! Hopefully we get some good stuff from Sonic Team for the 30th to bring Sonic back to the spotlight
My 3 biggest takeaways from this comment section (and correction): 1. I need to watch Big Hero 6 and My Neighbor Totoro 2. Windy Valley's concept art was probably based off the Beta stage (although I couldn't find anything to confirm one way or the other but would make sense with the development process) 3.(more of a correction on my end) The Tikal art is an offical sketch but the coloring was done by KojiChao around 2003-2005 on the website SonicCult.com!
This is a quality video! Reminds me of Cybershell's stuff. Great pacing and clear audio. You've got yourself one more subscriber and I hope your channel takes off.
Thank you so much! That's an huge compliment to me to even be somewhat referenced to Cybershell. Really glad you enjoyed it, hope you enjoy the ride coming! :)
Wow, my guess is Big was based on Totoro and it looks like he was originally going to be a tanuki, but then eventually made him into a cat instead. Also, that concept art of Chaos even though didn't get used for Sonic Adventure due to the Dreamcast's limited technical abilities, that would later be Chaos' appearance in Sonic Generations.
Man, what a great video, great humour and you showed a lot of fresh new things (or i guess old) that i have never seen before I love Sonic Adventure and the style of the game with the more mystical phantasy aproach it went
Im so happy to hear that! Thanks so much for the kind words. I agree its such a weird and unique setting but thats what makes it workso well imo. And then bundle that in with SA2 where it goes urban-scifi then urban-sci-mystical-phantasy by the end of the game with tying into SA1. Crazy styles!
I’m commenting for the algorithm as this channel needs more views/subs. I’m subbing after this comment. This was very professional. I just assumed this was a relatively big RUclipsr’s video. Hopefully it will be soon
That chubby Knuckles clan dude at the end gave me a pretty good chuckle. I think I find the N64 / Saturn / PS1 era of development really interesting since you have these developers who were already experienced with 2D games trying to figure out how to get things to work in 3D. I'm glad that concept art being released to the public has only become more commonplace; it's fairly easy to buy artbooks online from the game developers and publishers. You've got a good voice and good editing. Keep up the good work.
Hey thanks so much for the kind words :) I haven't really taken a dive down the N64/Saturn/PS1 rabbithole before but now that you mention it that would be pretty cool to check out. I find the concept art of these games from this era so interesting since its before alot of them could fully realize their vision compared to nowadays so it really makes for some interesting conversations as to "how" a certain piece would've turned out if the game was made in todays environment. A good example off the top of my head is that for Perfect Chaos in SA1 it wasn't until Sonic Generations (close to 15 years later) when they remade the fight and remodeled him that is what Sonic Team always wanted him to look like and I could only imagine for the other big titles from that era like Mario 64, OoT (which I really need to play) or Crash Bandicoot
@@Eldarin I feel exactly the same way. Unlike today, that was largely an era of compromise. Developers tried to push the hardware and see what they could get away with, which makes the differences between the idealized concept art and the final product that much more interesting. It was the wild west back then when the rules weren't as established and there was still a lot of new discoveries. I'm probably romanticizing it too much, but the idea is interesting to me.
Great video! I appreciate your meme edits scattered throughout to keep things fresh and entertaining. The concept art you picked was varied, and instead of just showing off the art, you went through the effort to find out the artists, their roles, and footage of how the art appeared in the final game. I liked how you prefaced any opinion of yours with "that's just my opinion, though," because it gave you a humbleness I found admirable. If I had any criticisms, I'd say that you could cut down the video length by removing the mentions of "I found this interesting" scattered throughout. I feel the fact you featured it in the video shows that you found it interesting, and the viewer can decide if they too find it interesting on their own. Ultimately that's a nitpick. I appreciate the level of commitment you've shown towards making this a quality video. Thank you!
Hey there! Just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to write the comment and feedback. I will 100% work on the "I found this interesting" stuff to make it a bit more concise! Im so happy you enjoyed the video and stay tuned for more!
Just found this video, I love it! This series has such great art, and I love seeing videos on it! I wish there were more honestly. You should do more of these, they’re great!
Hey thanks so much it really means a lot to hear that! I do plan on doing more in the same vein (currently working on a few I plan to have out in the near future) so stay tuned! Thank you so much for watching:)
The story boards for Sonic Adventure make me really wish that Sonic Team could remake it in order to create what the story was to it's fullest potential without worrying about the limitations of experience in 3D they had at the time of the original being made. Then I remember it's Sonic Team we're talking about and I understand that it wouldn't really pan out regardless most likely.
@@Eldarin Being a Sonic fan is like cramming for a test and mastering the answer to all the questions only to realize that your teacher assigned you an outdated book if you're lucky and a completely different than needed book if you're not. But heck, you throw enough games out into the world with holes in them you're bound to pull magic from a hat sooner or later, I know I'm just coping but at least ST keeps us on our toes.
The giant Knuckles Pillar is right in front of the entrance to Lost World in the Mystic Ruins, and you can actually see an animation of it forming every once in awhile
Thanks! I’m the same way, I’m not really sure what it is specifically with SA1 but the development is so interesting to me, it’s probably a mix of it’s 10 months development and the road before it being created (Sonic XTreme, etc etc) and Sonic Team still delivered a banger, imo at least
Wow, this was pretty interesting. great work on going in depth with the concept art of Sonic adventure for how it made changes to the series. Are you going to make another one with Sonic adventure 2 besides the one you made with Shadow & Rouge? Cuz this really peeked my interest and i know some concept art of SA2 was shown in one of sonic live streams.
Thank you so much! I’m really happy to hear you enjoyed the vid. As for if I’m going to do an SA2 one, I am currently planning to but I can’t seem to find anywhere near as much concept art straight out for SA2 so what I may do is morph it into something a tad more specific than just “concept art of SA2” if that makes sense (kinda like what my most recent one is). Let me know if that clears it up, thanks!
@@Eldarin oh thank you for the reply and also fair enough. I couldn't seem to find that much as well. All I can find is the concept art from the Twitter link: twitter.com/VGArtAndTidbits/status/982205020132147212?s=20 and some images of it on google. Regardless, hope your next video works out well my guy. :)
The next game will be Heroes (not sure when I am going to tackle the advance and GBA games yet) but I have a couple more SA2 videos in the pipeline along with one last solely focused SA1 topic but Im waiting for something in the mail to use as a resource of info to help make it. I'm trying to get about 2-3 videos per mainline game (rough estimate, may be more or less depending on the game) but if there is any requests on topics or games I am all ears! Let me know if that clears it up
Hey there! Just wanted to say I am a huge fan of your work and thank you so much for the kind words and subbing it really means alot. Hope you enjoy the ride!
Hey, thanks so much! Hope you enjoy the ride. That's so awesome you are really interested in art, I always struggled to draw myself, but I love looking at fan art (and concept art obviously), if your channel banner is your work it looks great btw. Keep up the good work :)
Same here! I was expecting more Tikal stuff when going to research but alas there was not much released to the public. I wonder what her concept designs were like
Yeah, I’d imagine that early drafts of her appearance would have had different headdresses or arrangements of her jewelry reminiscent of Maya ruling class.
The Knuckles Clan flashbacks and Lost World were inspired by various ruins in Central America. I think members of Sonic Team also went to Guatemala to visit them, as well.
great video dude i love it. Sonic Adventure 1 has like the most interesting development to me bc it really set the stage for how Sonic stories, gameplay, and music would define the character. Its nice to pay respects to the game that greatly contributed to Sonic Frontiers which is a lovely success for the series
Thank you! And yeah I'm playing through SA2 and have some content coming very shortly on it, but I forgot just HOW FUN the stages are in them. It's always been so interesting to me as to how different the design philosophy of SA1 vs SA2 (not in a bad way at all as they both excel in what they set out to do). I kinda think there can be an argument made if they should even be in the same subseries. I just recently went back to 100% SA1 and it was a blast but the SA2 completion experience so far has been FUN ASF especially due to the ranking and how to get the A ranks, you need to be good at the level and look cool doing it. So fun! :)
@@Eldarin I COMPLETELY agree. My first time in SA1 was before preschool if I remember correctly. I got SA2 in 3rd grade and initially thought the tails/knuckles (and their counterparts) gameplay was boring, as many would argue now, but after many years (I'm in college now) of playing and playing SA2 (probably over 20 playthroughs tbh XD, and that's not counting just replaying levels for fun) I think tails and knuckles stages are just as fun as sonic's, if not more so tbh! Those stages breathe in the exploration and more methodical platforming that aren't present in sonic's stages, giving the game a very nice balance imo. And the MUSIC! The tone/story of SA2 is a sweet spot for the series imo as well. I would love to see another game take a genuine attempt to follow this up (but to be fair, Sonic 06 is kinda maybe my favorite sonic game, but that's off the record XD)
@@garfieldodie3106 Im 100% with you as I was in a similar situation and I sold my gamecube, all my sonic games and everything to get a X360 in lieu of Sonic 06. I'm really excited to play it again for the channel since I remember LOVING it when I was younger without knowledge of the outside consensus on it.I never 100% beat SA2's story till this year (couldn't get past cannons core lol) but I was really impressed how many callbacks to SA1 there were at the end and how Sonic Team was able to blend the Sci-fi aesthetic of the 2nd game with the more mystical fantasy theme of the first. Both games are so awesome! (sorry for the late response also). I'm interested to see where SEGA is going to go this year with the new game and if they use the adventure formula (Im not too picky as long as the game is fun and the story is good lol)
That’s awesome! And to add onto that, we know can assume the reason for the S.A.M.E was for the canceled (or delayed) adventure remakes! Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed :)
Sonic Adventure is still a favourite of mine. I may not care for a good chunk of its content, but the Sonic portion is so good that I'm willing to tolerate the lesser parts.
I agree, I just got done 100% it recently and it was a blast but there is somethings I am not a fan of but Sonic's gameplay keeps me coming back and back, the level design and his control are some of the best in the franchise.
I’m so happy to hear you found some new stuff in the video! I’m thoroughly surprised as SA1 has a lot of concept art and you would imagine SA2 especially would but it has next to none (much like development information we have on the game). It’s quite interesting to say the least
8:08, actually you may not be aware, but windy valley was completely different for a lot of the game’s development. The drawing is a section from the prototype windy valley, a pretty accurate one too.
That is a good point it could've been based off the beta verison, granted I couldn't find any info in regards to what version the drawing was based off of (so I tried to match as best as I could) but I could 100% see how that would've been where that picture came from. Makes me wonder why they even cut it as although I love final Windy Valley the beta was far superior. Anyways, hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for the kind words and subbing, it really means alot! Hope you enjoy what's to come, I have a few projects im working on right now that'll be done quite soon so stay tuned for those :D
Some of those early Big designs are really charming tbh. Those early Gamma designs are cool, but I couldn't see them working as what's supposed to be one of the most powerful and efficient robots Eggman has ever made. That Oshima illustration of Perfect Chaos is fucking badass too.
The Perfect Chaos illustration is probably my favorite out of the whole group, I found the Big ones really cool too and I would've been interested to see how that would've translated from the paper to in-game. I agree about Gamma, poor guy looked like a hunk of junk instead of an elite fighting robot
Thank you so much it really means alot and I'm happy to hear you enjoyed it. I'm in the same boat as this is my favorite era of sonic too, so it was such a treat researching this and finding all this art! Stay tuned for the SA2 Concept Art + Real World Location Inspiration vid as I'm currently editing it right now :)
Looking at the Echidna relic concept art, it seems they were planning to be closer to S3&K's style initially, though the shonen animé aesthetic of Adventure was clearly set from the get go.
i just love those models of sonic and tails on the sega saturn. i'm so curious now to see what sonic adventure would've been like on the saturn instead of the dreamcast.
I love the Sonic R-esque ones too they're so cool but kinda cute. It really gave me a OG FF7 vibe in the pictures they gave for some reason, thanks for stopping by and hope you enjoyed :)
@@Eldarin YEAH they hit that low-poly classic look perfectly and i feel like it would be funny to have a full-blown adventure game in that style of animation lmao
If you haven’t checked out Sonic Robo Blast 2 it’s a free fan game that has the same style of those pictures..I’d highly recommend it, it’s the style of 2D sonic with the level design and openness of the adventure games! Plus the mods are super dope too!
Hey! I'm really surprised you never saw these images 1:52 before. I used to print these out all the time! If you put the Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast CD in your computer, these images all popped up as wallpapers that you could use. It was really neat and I honestly miss these cute illustrations. It gave off such a fun vibe seeing Amy and Tails in beachware and Sonic in a santa suit!
Thats such a cool fact! (I'm going to show my age...or lack thereof I suppose) but my first introduction to SA was SADX so I never had the luxury of using a Dreamcast..how are the controllers on those things by the way? Anyways, thanks for sharing as thats a really cool piece of trivia...those illustrations are adorable I agree!!
Does anyone know anything about the artist that drew the sonic holding a torch and the yellow egg carrier art? I'm not sure if it's Hiroshi Nishiyama or not :c
The torch artwork is currently unsourced, no one knows who on the team drew it, from my knowledge at least. The same goes with the yellow egg carrier one unfortunately. It’s a shame SEGA doesn’t bring light to a lot of this stuff but I suppose they’re may be legal reasons or something :/
@@Eldarin That's such a shame! I fell so in love with that yellow egg carrier art that I wanted to try tracking down the creator, but it seems like that'd be an impossible task without being able to contact someone from that era of Sega... Thank you for your answer, though!
Whoa that's very cool topics I learn today, I've hope Sega remake Sonic Adventure 1 & Sonic Adventure 2 I'm curious to see what things they will added in the remakes.
Glad you enjoyed/learned something! Same honestly, I really hope they flesh out the games even more as although there’s a lot there already I feel a decent amount of the lore form these games is barely scratched
Sorry doing this at 11' Just a big if, imagine that they used the unused Concepts and put that into a separate mode or an entirely new story mode in the remake. Also I noticed this for awhile now Amy's Classic Design, She Has The Two Spikes On Her Back like Every Hedgehog In her Modern Design, They're gone Nobody hasn't Touched this Topic Yet
I really hope we get these concepts remade and placed in the story as that’s the kind of stuff that elevates a remake for me imo. Yeah I agree it’s weird Amy’s design radically changed so much yet there’s literally no available art on it which sucks :/ great eye though, that’s a really interesting detail
@@Eldarin Yeah, What really surprises me that the Fans don't even Talk/ Mention about that ( I think ) Which is Shocking, Well I'll Spread the Word About this though.
dude i know! my biggest question is about the Saturn photos, as would we still have gotten SA1 on the Saturn? Where those taken after X-Treme was already scrapped? Would both of them released or how would X-Treme affected SA1's development if they're both on the same console? Very interesting to ponder!
@@Eldarin yea. I always assumed back then that Sonic Adventure was in production after X-treme was scrapped but then I realized, both Adventure and X-treme were made by two different teams so I am not entirely sure if that is the case. Though I would love to see footage of the supposed Saturn version but I am sure all those footage are lost in the sands of time.
@@MetaKnuxXbeats Im not sure myself...I think STI was working on X-Treme while Sonic Team was working on SA1, not really sure though. Maybe one day we will get that Saturn footage, if there is any
Not sure if anyone's mentions this, but one thing you missed is that apparently they used Perfect Chaos' concept art for his design in Generations. I always wondered why they added the solid scales and apparently that's how he was SUPPOSED to look. The Dreamcast probably wasn't able to handle that level of detail though.
Hey thanks for watching! I read something similar also! I believe Iizuka said something to the extent of how the Dreamcast was holding them back at the time, kinda cool they were able to come back bring Perfect Chaos to their full vision years later! (This is where I found it, go to the trivia section: sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Perfect_Chaos)
@@Eldarin yea man seriously. Fingers crossed for Adventure remakes, personally. Still feel that's the best rendition of 3D sonic, gameplay-wise. Would love to see them with hardware that can handle an speed-based, open world.
YES! I thought the same thing...certainly would've been interesting if we had some pre-rendered backgrounds instead of the adventure field! Thanks for watching :)
I wish we had more concept art of Amy considering how drastic of a redesign she had. Would be cool to see how we went from Classic to Modern.
I agree heck I'd even argue she had the most radical design change from classic to modern! Hopefully in the coming years we get more concept art and information unveiled
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I was stupid forgot my login password. I would love any tricks you can give me.
@Jonas Emmitt Instablaster :)
@@santinokameron753 Ah bots.
The Oshima Perfect Chaos drawing makes me really want a Sonic manga in that artstyle *sigh*, but anyways amazing video.
That would be insane! The Perfect Chaos picture was probably my favorite out of the whole bunch..it blew me away when I saw it. Also thought it was really interesting even from the beginning Sonic Team wanted a giant dragon coming out of a building. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching :)
Fun fact, the original concept design was reused for sonic generations!
@@caramelcandys Yes! I read somewhere (I'll try to find it) that Izuka said the Generations version of Perfect Chaos was always what the team "envisioned" him to look like while developing SA1 but the in-game technical limitations at the time held them back. (I can't get the actual magazine interview but here is the link to where I found it, its in the trivia section if interested: sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Perfect_Chaos_(Sonic_Generations)#cite_note-1)
@@caramelcandysyeah that's pretty cool, I sorta remember hearing or reading about something like that, prob from a sonic wiki page.
At least a spin-off manga (no pun intended) kinda like the Pokémon Manga or Legend of Zelda Manga. I’d die to have an opportunity to make a fan rendition, but there’s probably so many out there...
I always like when creators show their concept art to the public. It's really interesting to see how a game changed through the development cycle. When I first saw these Sega Saturn concepts I was impressed by how good it looked even for an old console with blocky 3D. Another good example is the concept art in Mega Man Legacy Collection 1&2 as some of the things there were also very interesting and not well known (for example in MMLC2 in the Mega Man 8 section there's concept art for Block Man's weapon from Mega Man 11, a game which released about 20 years later).
SAME! The concept art pieces are so interesting in my opinion and how the translate to the final game. The Saturn pictures were so interesting in my opinion, remined me of the OG FF7 models for some reason lol. I haven't played Mega Man but I need to check them out, I heard the OG's and X are great! Thanks for watching as always and hope you enjoyed :)
That concept you're referring to in MMLC2 was a tease for MM11 prior to announcement, it wasn't actually from when MM8 was being made.
@@dcvmu This may be true but my point still stands as there are unused things that appeared in later games like the spring enemy which was cut from MM1 and returned in MM2 (as seen in the concept art section of the gallery).
The colours aren't actually darker in the guidebook, if you try and recreate them based on the codes you'll see that. they just seem darker because of the scan itself. They're also by and large the colours still used today, with only minor changes- skin tones were lightened as were grey tones, but the reds, blues, etc are still the same.
Also, that Tikal "final counterpart" is fanart inking exactly of that concept art sketch. The first official 2d art of Tikal only came with the Sonic Channel site.
thanks for the heads up! It was brought to my attention about the Tikal coloring being done by KojiChao on SonicCult back in the 2003-2005 range, my mistake on that. That's an interesting fact about the colors though and I appreciate you pointing that out! Hope you enjoyed the video & thanks for watching :)
5:08 It is cool that Generations designed Perfect Chaos as originally intended.
The extra layer of scales is present in the original, but much more noticeable in Generations.
I agree it’s really cool the team was able to come back and actually follow up on the vision they originally had when the hardware was available for it
Same, the Perfect Chaos fight in Generations makes me so happy 😁
The Adventure art is just... *Unique* and I really love it
I 100% agree! It's able to mix an islandy tropical aesthetic with a modern and mystical/fantasy at the same time. It's crazy! Hope you enjoyed the video!
6:00 To me this concept art reminds a lot of Eggman’s design in Sonic 06.
Not that irritating hedgehog again! *ATTACK!* I agree though, reminds alot of it too!
That Saturn adventure art is the most beautiful thing I’ve seen in years. This is the Sonic channel I’ve been looking for! Great work!
Aw im so happy to hear that! Hope you enjoy the future videos :D
Sonic Adventure: *is a good game*
Gamegeumps: This game sucks
Everyone: AH OKAY, SA1 is bad now.
Literally
It's really not a great game
"This game sucks"
Says the dude that is bad in games and said that Zelda isn't that great.
@@toowiggly Did you play it?
@@toowiggly Yes it is.
prototype big feels like a cross between totoro and stimpy j. cat
I believe he was based off of Totoro or at least inspired by! Such cool concept designs imo
3:23 - You can really see Uekawa's style in this, really reminding me of his work for Ristar.
Thanks for putting me onto this, I've never heard of Ristar or Uekawa working on it but im definitely gonna have to check it out!
The knuckles clan is so interesting to me. And the Lost World stage, super mysterious, it’s just so cool lol. That concept art was so amazing, if we ever do get a remake I hope some of those old concepts get put into the stage
I 100% agree, I still feel theres alot of untapped potential with that corner of the universe (heck we got a whole frickin Bioware RPG in regards to it and it STILL felt like there was more untapped potential with it). I hope we do get a remake as stuff like that and the storyboards would make perfect inclusions in the game to really elevate it from just a graphical paintjob update. Lost World still kinda freaks me out in some ways with the music cues at certain sections like the darkness area or the boulder run section!
Seeing concept art is always a big joy for me, especially when its from a game that i consider to be my first game ive played as a child. Also thank you SO much for adding all the sources for easier access to the artwork
Same here and its a similar story for me with this game! Im happy to hear you checked the sources out, if you have any questions or anything let me know and I can try my best to help!
3:15 got me
LOL glad you enjoyed it! Right when I saw Gamma's concepts it immediately reminded me of Robots haha. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more ^_^
"Sonic Adventure is a pretty awesome game in my opinion."
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Ah, a man of culture ;) Welcome!
Very unique concept for a video. Very cool, I've never bothered looking at the concept as art.
Thanks so much! the concept art is so awesome for all the sonic games in my opinion!
Dude, I love that Uekawa Sonic proto-type art early in the video. It's the perfect blend between old and new Sonic.
If they were to do a remake what I’d really like to see is unlockable skins for the charatcers much like how Crash 4 did it as there’s a lot of concept designs much like that one...which looked super awesome but will never see the light of an actual 3D translation. Here’s hoping though :)
duuuuudeeeee you killed it on this video. I usually don't comment on the quality of videos, but this was A1. The small bits of humor were my favorite, they were subtle jokes and then you went straight back to the point.
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hey thank you so much it means a lot! I'm glad you enjoyed it so much, stay tuned as the next one should be coming later this week :)
2:59 If they used that design for Big in the final game, then Jon St. John could have used his Duke Nukem voice.
the perfect chaos scream was hilarious timing, good shit. Some ones gotta keep the blue boy relevant
thanks so much im so happy to hear you enjoyed, it really means alot! Hopefully we get some good stuff from Sonic Team for the 30th to bring Sonic back to the spotlight
My 3 biggest takeaways from this comment section (and correction):
1. I need to watch Big Hero 6 and My Neighbor Totoro
2. Windy Valley's concept art was probably based off the Beta stage (although I couldn't find anything to confirm one way or the other but would make sense with the development process)
3.(more of a correction on my end) The Tikal art is an offical sketch but the coloring was done by KojiChao around 2003-2005 on the website SonicCult.com!
The fact that the website is called SonicCult has me concerned--
But thanks for the clarifications on these things! :D
This is a quality video! Reminds me of Cybershell's stuff. Great pacing and clear audio. You've got yourself one more subscriber and I hope your channel takes off.
Thank you so much! That's an huge compliment to me to even be somewhat referenced to Cybershell. Really glad you enjoyed it, hope you enjoy the ride coming! :)
@synthwave _impact -_- hey thanks so much it really means a lot :D
Dope stuff dude! I really like this!
The man himself :)
@@caseyhoward4986 :)
hey man! thanks for stopping by, I'm such a big fan of your channel I've been watching like all of your videos since I found you a while back :D
@@Eldarin thanks! I really like your videos too honestly! You do a way better job then I do! It honestly means a lot that you like my content!
Wow, my guess is Big was based on Totoro and it looks like he was originally going to be a tanuki, but then eventually made him into a cat instead. Also, that concept art of Chaos even though didn't get used for Sonic Adventure due to the Dreamcast's limited technical abilities, that would later be Chaos' appearance in Sonic Generations.
Found you from the /v/ thread. Quality stuff, man. Subbed.
ayy thanks so much I really appreciate it! Welcome!
Great video! I really love how cool the concept art is from back then. Looking forward to future videos!
Glad you enjoyed it! More is on the way!
Awesome vid! It's always really cool to see concept art for games. That Perfect Chaos drawing is beyond amazing!
I agree! This game is so interesting to me as how much unique concept art there was. Im so happy to hear you enjoyed the video :)
If we get an Adventure remake, these concepts NEED to be utilized, especially Sonic's opening cutscene with Sonic jumping on the cops' cars.
Same here! It would only add to the story in my opinion!
Welp now I have a new RUclips Channel to binge through! Also amazing video my dude.
thank u sm! Seriously, I appreciate the feedback and hope you enjoy the other videos! :))
Man, what a great video, great humour and you showed a lot of fresh new things (or i guess old) that i have never seen before
I love Sonic Adventure and the style of the game with the more mystical phantasy aproach it went
Im so happy to hear that! Thanks so much for the kind words. I agree its such a weird and unique setting but thats what makes it workso well imo. And then bundle that in with SA2 where it goes urban-scifi then urban-sci-mystical-phantasy by the end of the game with tying into SA1. Crazy styles!
@@Eldarin coming to think about it, it's true
SA1: Phantasy with Sci-Fi in between
SA2: Sci-Fi with Phantasy in between
I’m commenting for the algorithm as this channel needs more views/subs. I’m subbing after this comment. This was very professional. I just assumed this was a relatively big RUclipsr’s video. Hopefully it will be soon
thank you and thanks for the kind words! Im glad you enjoyed it as I love sharing this stuff because its so interesting imo!
That chubby Knuckles clan dude at the end gave me a pretty good chuckle. I think I find the N64 / Saturn / PS1 era of development really interesting since you have these developers who were already experienced with 2D games trying to figure out how to get things to work in 3D. I'm glad that concept art being released to the public has only become more commonplace; it's fairly easy to buy artbooks online from the game developers and publishers. You've got a good voice and good editing. Keep up the good work.
Hey thanks so much for the kind words :) I haven't really taken a dive down the N64/Saturn/PS1 rabbithole before but now that you mention it that would be pretty cool to check out. I find the concept art of these games from this era so interesting since its before alot of them could fully realize their vision compared to nowadays so it really makes for some interesting conversations as to "how" a certain piece would've turned out if the game was made in todays environment. A good example off the top of my head is that for Perfect Chaos in SA1 it wasn't until Sonic Generations (close to 15 years later) when they remade the fight and remodeled him that is what Sonic Team always wanted him to look like and I could only imagine for the other big titles from that era like Mario 64, OoT (which I really need to play) or Crash Bandicoot
@@Eldarin I feel exactly the same way. Unlike today, that was largely an era of compromise. Developers tried to push the hardware and see what they could get away with, which makes the differences between the idealized concept art and the final product that much more interesting. It was the wild west back then when the rules weren't as established and there was still a lot of new discoveries. I'm probably romanticizing it too much, but the idea is interesting to me.
I love the quality of this video along with the editing, you also have a great voice for commentary so i’m definitely subscribing 👍🏼
Hey thank you so much it really means alot I hope you enjoy the upcoming stuff!
Great video! I appreciate your meme edits scattered throughout to keep things fresh and entertaining. The concept art you picked was varied, and instead of just showing off the art, you went through the effort to find out the artists, their roles, and footage of how the art appeared in the final game. I liked how you prefaced any opinion of yours with "that's just my opinion, though," because it gave you a humbleness I found admirable. If I had any criticisms, I'd say that you could cut down the video length by removing the mentions of "I found this interesting" scattered throughout. I feel the fact you featured it in the video shows that you found it interesting, and the viewer can decide if they too find it interesting on their own. Ultimately that's a nitpick. I appreciate the level of commitment you've shown towards making this a quality video. Thank you!
Hey there! Just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to write the comment and feedback. I will 100% work on the "I found this interesting" stuff to make it a bit more concise! Im so happy you enjoyed the video and stay tuned for more!
Wow you actually taught me a few things I didn't know about sonic and SA1 👏 That's a hard thing to do 😂😂
Nice video man
I’m happy to hear! What I love about making these is I have learned so much about these games that makes me appreciate them even more!
I’m glad we got a more streamlined super sonic for the whole series but DAMN that beta super sonic would’ve been so cool.
I know!!! Reminds me alot of the 06 model...would've been interesting to see how they translated the beta model to 3D on the dream cast
Perfect Chaos with Yoda Death Scream is something I did not knew I needed until now
Just found this video, I love it! This series has such great art, and I love seeing videos on it! I wish there were more honestly. You should do more of these, they’re great!
Hey thanks so much it really means a lot to hear that! I do plan on doing more in the same vein (currently working on a few I plan to have out in the near future) so stay tuned! Thank you so much for watching:)
Your editing quality is so good. I'm your new sub, You deserve more subs.
Thank you so much for subbing, Im happy you are enjoying the editing and videos :D
Nicely done, fren. Grats on 100 subs.
Ay thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed
The story boards for Sonic Adventure make me really wish that Sonic Team could remake it in order to create what the story was to it's fullest potential without worrying about the limitations of experience in 3D they had at the time of the original being made.
Then I remember it's Sonic Team we're talking about and I understand that it wouldn't really pan out regardless most likely.
I 100% agree with you. Sonic Team will manage to mess something up but in a very sadistic way that’s kind of the fun with them sometimes hahaha🥲
@@Eldarin
Being a Sonic fan is like cramming for a test and mastering the answer to all the questions only to realize that your teacher assigned you an outdated book if you're lucky and a completely different than needed book if you're not.
But heck, you throw enough games out into the world with holes in them you're bound to pull magic from a hat sooner or later, I know I'm just coping but at least ST keeps us on our toes.
@@ThatBugBehindYou i 100% agree and that analogy hits home way too hard this semester in college LOL
Im kinda surprised you dont have like 500k subs, youre definetly underrated, great video btw!
Thanks so much, it genuinely means alot to hear that and im so happy you liked the vid!
The giant Knuckles Pillar is right in front of the entrance to Lost World in the Mystic Ruins, and you can actually see an animation of it forming every once in awhile
I must’ve missed it..thanks for the heads up and checking the video out!
@@Eldarin of course. I always love hearing about the history of this game. Great video
Thanks! I’m the same way, I’m not really sure what it is specifically with SA1 but the development is so interesting to me, it’s probably a mix of it’s 10 months development and the road before it being created (Sonic XTreme, etc etc) and Sonic Team still delivered a banger, imo at least
Really good vid man! This channel is definitely gonna go somewhere, keep it up!
I really appreciate the kind feedback, hope you enjoy whats to come
Wow, this was pretty interesting. great work on going in depth with the concept art of Sonic adventure for how it made changes to the series. Are you going to make another one with Sonic adventure 2 besides the one you made with Shadow & Rouge? Cuz this really peeked my interest and i know some concept art of SA2 was shown in one of sonic live streams.
Thank you so much! I’m really happy to hear you enjoyed the vid. As for if I’m going to do an SA2 one, I am currently planning to but I can’t seem to find anywhere near as much concept art straight out for SA2 so what I may do is morph it into something a tad more specific than just “concept art of SA2” if that makes sense (kinda like what my most recent one is). Let me know if that clears it up, thanks!
@@Eldarin oh thank you for the reply and also fair enough. I couldn't seem to find that much as well. All I can find is the concept art from the Twitter link: twitter.com/VGArtAndTidbits/status/982205020132147212?s=20 and some images of it on google. Regardless, hope your next video works out well my guy. :)
A video I never knew I needed, but really frickin needed
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed and stay tuned for more :)
Alot of the art used in that stylebook was used in the prima strategy guide
I didn’t know that! How cool :D thanks for watching :)
@@Eldarin absolutely! I enjoyed this. Looking forward to checking out more of your videos once im out
You got recommended. You have a great future ahead of you. Keep up the good work and you get there!
I really appreciate it thanks a bunch! Makes me happy to hear you enjoyed the video!
I've never seen your content or even know who you are but as soon as I saw the title, I subscribed
ayyy, well welcome! Hope you enjoyed it!
@@Eldarin So from the pattern I'm noticing, Heroes is gonna be your next video?
The next game will be Heroes (not sure when I am going to tackle the advance and GBA games yet) but I have a couple more SA2 videos in the pipeline along with one last solely focused SA1 topic but Im waiting for something in the mail to use as a resource of info to help make it. I'm trying to get about 2-3 videos per mainline game (rough estimate, may be more or less depending on the game) but if there is any requests on topics or games I am all ears! Let me know if that clears it up
@@Eldarin Yeah. Can't wait :3
1:57 got me good lmaooo.
This is a very well made video! Nicely done! You earned a sub. ❤️🤘
Hey there! Just wanted to say I am a huge fan of your work and thank you so much for the kind words and subbing it really means alot. Hope you enjoy the ride!
really like the flow of these videos. interesting video topic too. nice!
Thank you so much for the kind words :)
Wow this is really cool especially for me! I love art, I draw 24/7! You just got yourself a Sub 👌👌
Hey, thanks so much! Hope you enjoy the ride. That's so awesome you are really interested in art, I always struggled to draw myself, but I love looking at fan art (and concept art obviously), if your channel banner is your work it looks great btw. Keep up the good work :)
Thanks man you keep up the great work too! And yes that is my work in my banner :D
I’m a little disappointed that there’s not a lot of Tikal art in the book. I really enjoyed her flashback segments and the culture of the echidnas.
Same here! I was expecting more Tikal stuff when going to research but alas there was not much released to the public. I wonder what her concept designs were like
Yeah, I’d imagine that early drafts of her appearance would have had different headdresses or arrangements of her jewelry reminiscent of Maya ruling class.
The Knuckles Clan flashbacks and Lost World were inspired by various ruins in Central America. I think members of Sonic Team also went to Guatemala to visit them, as well.
not gonna lie, but the concept pictures of Sonic adventure if it would have come out for the Sega Saturn looks pretty cool.
great video dude i love it. Sonic Adventure 1 has like the most interesting development to me bc it really set the stage for how Sonic stories, gameplay, and music would define the character. Its nice to pay respects to the game that greatly contributed to Sonic Frontiers which is a lovely success for the series
Good video :D Sonic adventure is one of my all time favorite games too! Adventure 2 is better imo, but Adventure 1 isn't far behind.
Thank you! And yeah I'm playing through SA2 and have some content coming very shortly on it, but I forgot just HOW FUN the stages are in them. It's always been so interesting to me as to how different the design philosophy of SA1 vs SA2 (not in a bad way at all as they both excel in what they set out to do). I kinda think there can be an argument made if they should even be in the same subseries. I just recently went back to 100% SA1 and it was a blast but the SA2 completion experience so far has been FUN ASF especially due to the ranking and how to get the A ranks, you need to be good at the level and look cool doing it. So fun! :)
@@Eldarin I COMPLETELY agree. My first time in SA1 was before preschool if I remember correctly. I got SA2 in 3rd grade and initially thought the tails/knuckles (and their counterparts) gameplay was boring, as many would argue now, but after many years (I'm in college now) of playing and playing SA2 (probably over 20 playthroughs tbh XD, and that's not counting just replaying levels for fun) I think tails and knuckles stages are just as fun as sonic's, if not more so tbh! Those stages breathe in the exploration and more methodical platforming that aren't present in sonic's stages, giving the game a very nice balance imo. And the MUSIC! The tone/story of SA2 is a sweet spot for the series imo as well. I would love to see another game take a genuine attempt to follow this up (but to be fair, Sonic 06 is kinda maybe my favorite sonic game, but that's off the record XD)
@@garfieldodie3106 Im 100% with you as I was in a similar situation and I sold my gamecube, all my sonic games and everything to get a X360 in lieu of Sonic 06. I'm really excited to play it again for the channel since I remember LOVING it when I was younger without knowledge of the outside consensus on it.I never 100% beat SA2's story till this year (couldn't get past cannons core lol) but I was really impressed how many callbacks to SA1 there were at the end and how Sonic Team was able to blend the Sci-fi aesthetic of the 2nd game with the more mystical fantasy theme of the first. Both games are so awesome! (sorry for the late response also). I'm interested to see where SEGA is going to go this year with the new game and if they use the adventure formula (Im not too picky as long as the game is fun and the story is good lol)
Fun fact the sonic music experience art was reused for Passion and Pride a Adventure era character theme collection
That’s awesome! And to add onto that, we know can assume the reason for the S.A.M.E was for the canceled (or delayed) adventure remakes! Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed :)
I hope those remakes release
Sonic Adventure is still a favourite of mine. I may not care for a good chunk of its content, but the Sonic portion is so good that I'm willing to tolerate the lesser parts.
I agree, I just got done 100% it recently and it was a blast but there is somethings I am not a fan of but Sonic's gameplay keeps me coming back and back, the level design and his control are some of the best in the franchise.
I've stumbled upon a few of these over the years, but so many cool new things like rough drafts of the cutscene. Real charming stuff
I’m so happy to hear you found some new stuff in the video! I’m thoroughly surprised as SA1 has a lot of concept art and you would imagine SA2 especially would but it has next to none (much like development information we have on the game). It’s quite interesting to say the least
Great video! I love some of this art it’s so sick
Thanks a ton! Im happy to hear you liked it!!!
8:08, actually you may not be aware, but windy valley was completely different for a lot of the game’s development. The drawing is a section from the prototype windy valley, a pretty accurate one too.
That is a good point it could've been based off the beta verison, granted I couldn't find any info in regards to what version the drawing was based off of (so I tried to match as best as I could) but I could 100% see how that would've been where that picture came from. Makes me wonder why they even cut it as although I love final Windy Valley the beta was far superior. Anyways, hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
@@Eldarin I indeed enjoyed the video! Very well made, keep up the good work.
Really interesting video keep up the awesome work! :D It's really cool to see how much the game evolved from the original concept art.
Hey thanks so much I’m so happy to hear you are enjoying it! Stay tuned for more!!!
I am in LOVE with the super Sonic drawing. Definitly gonna take a crack at drawing it myself
Great video this research that you found making this video is amazing!
Btw I just subbed!
Thank you so much for the kind words and subbing, it really means alot! Hope you enjoy what's to come, I have a few projects im working on right now that'll be done quite soon so stay tuned for those :D
@@Eldarin no problem! And ayyy nice!!! I'll be looking forward too it!
Amazing video, the best yet imo!
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great video dude! I'd love to have seen a sonic adventure for the saturn - the Jam overworld had a really cool style to it
Thanks! And I agree it certainly would've been a cool thing to see if we got a Saturn prototype at the very least
Some of those early Big designs are really charming tbh. Those early Gamma designs are cool, but I couldn't see them working as what's supposed to be one of the most powerful and efficient robots Eggman has ever made. That Oshima illustration of Perfect Chaos is fucking badass too.
The Perfect Chaos illustration is probably my favorite out of the whole group, I found the Big ones really cool too and I would've been interested to see how that would've translated from the paper to in-game. I agree about Gamma, poor guy looked like a hunk of junk instead of an elite fighting robot
The Prosthetic Arm is totally SATAM Robotnik Inspired.
I really need to watch SatAM
Very informative. I love this era of sonic the most, so this was very cool to see.
Thank you so much it really means alot and I'm happy to hear you enjoyed it. I'm in the same boat as this is my favorite era of sonic too, so it was such a treat researching this and finding all this art! Stay tuned for the SA2 Concept Art + Real World Location Inspiration vid as I'm currently editing it right now :)
@@Eldarin :)
Original gama looked like something pre adventure Eggman would make
That whole aesthetic
Looking at the Echidna relic concept art, it seems they were planning to be closer to S3&K's style initially, though the shonen animé aesthetic of Adventure was clearly set from the get go.
Yeah it’s so interesting! I do wonder what the final product would have looked like with the 3K style more. I do love the shonen aesthetic tho :)
You take one look at the Perfect Chaos concept art and immediately understand how it was approved on the spot.
i just love those models of sonic and tails on the sega saturn. i'm so curious now to see what sonic adventure would've been like on the saturn instead of the dreamcast.
I love the Sonic R-esque ones too they're so cool but kinda cute. It really gave me a OG FF7 vibe in the pictures they gave for some reason, thanks for stopping by and hope you enjoyed :)
@@Eldarin YEAH they hit that low-poly classic look perfectly and i feel like it would be funny to have a full-blown adventure game in that style of animation lmao
If you haven’t checked out Sonic Robo Blast 2 it’s a free fan game that has the same style of those pictures..I’d highly recommend it, it’s the style of 2D sonic with the level design and openness of the adventure games! Plus the mods are super dope too!
Hey! I'm really surprised you never saw these images 1:52 before. I used to print these out all the time! If you put the Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast CD in your computer, these images all popped up as wallpapers that you could use. It was really neat and I honestly miss these cute illustrations. It gave off such a fun vibe seeing Amy and Tails in beachware and Sonic in a santa suit!
Thats such a cool fact! (I'm going to show my age...or lack thereof I suppose) but my first introduction to SA was SADX so I never had the luxury of using a Dreamcast..how are the controllers on those things by the way? Anyways, thanks for sharing as thats a really cool piece of trivia...those illustrations are adorable I agree!!
way cool man, thanks for putting this all together
Hey thank yoy so much it really means a lot to hear that. Hope you enjoy what’s to come :D
0:56 I actually kinda like this design, his quills look like the old "adventures of sonic" cartoon, but he also kinda gives werehog vibes.
As someone who is in love with SA 1 this was a joy to look at
So happy to hear you enjoyed the video!!
Never saw these, very well presented too thanks
Very happy to hear you liked them. Don't thank me, let me thank *you* for watching! :)!
Yoo, how do you not have over 1k yet??
Hey man it seriously means alot to hear this! Thank you so much!!!
10:50 the Emerald Shrine kinda reminds me of the Emerald shrine from 3K in Hidden Palace.
Good eye! I wonder if thats what it was based off of..thanks for watching :)
There was great art in the prima strategy guide including that Amy on the beach and Sonic skateboarding
I'll have to check that out, its so cool to me that SEGA throws so much neat art in their strategy guides and stuff. Nice profile pic also ;)
I absolutely love SA art and that it basically informs how the series looks today still. Its the best period of sonic Imo SA1-2
These are so interesting! Thanks for sharing :D
Does anyone know anything about the artist that drew the sonic holding a torch and the yellow egg carrier art? I'm not sure if it's Hiroshi Nishiyama or not :c
The torch artwork is currently unsourced, no one knows who on the team drew it, from my knowledge at least. The same goes with the yellow egg carrier one unfortunately. It’s a shame SEGA doesn’t bring light to a lot of this stuff but I suppose they’re may be legal reasons or something :/
@@Eldarin That's such a shame! I fell so in love with that yellow egg carrier art that I wanted to try tracking down the creator, but it seems like that'd be an impossible task without being able to contact someone from that era of Sega... Thank you for your answer, though!
This was such a great watch
Hey thanks so much for the kind words! Happy to hear you enjoyed the video 😸
10:34 i'm from indonesia and its really cool how the shrine's structures are clearly inspired by the borobudur temple.
Whoa that's very cool topics I learn today, I've hope Sega remake Sonic Adventure 1 & Sonic Adventure 2 I'm curious to see what things they will added in the remakes.
Glad you enjoyed/learned something! Same honestly, I really hope they flesh out the games even more as although there’s a lot there already I feel a decent amount of the lore form these games is barely scratched
i’d never played this game sadly but even i can say is a good game. i’m sick and tired of people saying games bad just because it didn’t age well.
Fun fact the chaos art design is the inspiration for generations chaos
Soulful video as always
thank you!!!
6:29
Eggman drip
Guess we can say the egg is runny.
9:58
Great now Eggman is pissing on his own ship.
the prequel to him pissing on the moon 0_0
Sorry doing this at 11'
Just a big if, imagine that they used the unused Concepts and put that into a separate mode or an entirely new story mode in the remake.
Also I noticed this for awhile now
Amy's Classic Design, She Has The Two Spikes On Her Back like Every Hedgehog
In her Modern Design, They're gone
Nobody hasn't Touched this Topic Yet
I really hope we get these concepts remade and placed in the story as that’s the kind of stuff that elevates a remake for me imo. Yeah I agree it’s weird Amy’s design radically changed so much yet there’s literally no available art on it which sucks :/ great eye though, that’s a really interesting detail
@@Eldarin Yeah, What really surprises me that the Fans don't even Talk/ Mention about that ( I think ) Which is Shocking, Well I'll Spread the Word About this though.
Thanks so much I really appreciate it!
Man I love the porotype Iwakawa Sonic Designs
The early concepts and early designs always fascinated me. It always makes me think, how different would the game be?
dude i know! my biggest question is about the Saturn photos, as would we still have gotten SA1 on the Saturn? Where those taken after X-Treme was already scrapped? Would both of them released or how would X-Treme affected SA1's development if they're both on the same console? Very interesting to ponder!
@@Eldarin yea. I always assumed back then that Sonic Adventure was in production after X-treme was scrapped but then I realized, both Adventure and X-treme were made by two different teams so I am not entirely sure if that is the case. Though I would love to see footage of the supposed Saturn version but I am sure all those footage are lost in the sands of time.
@@MetaKnuxXbeats Im not sure myself...I think STI was working on X-Treme while Sonic Team was working on SA1, not really sure though. Maybe one day we will get that Saturn footage, if there is any
@@Eldarin hopefully. Or maybe someone can make a fan made demake.
Not sure if anyone's mentions this, but one thing you missed is that apparently they used Perfect Chaos' concept art for his design in Generations. I always wondered why they added the solid scales and apparently that's how he was SUPPOSED to look. The Dreamcast probably wasn't able to handle that level of detail though.
Hey thanks for watching! I read something similar also! I believe Iizuka said something to the extent of how the Dreamcast was holding them back at the time, kinda cool they were able to come back bring Perfect Chaos to their full vision years later!
(This is where I found it, go to the trivia section: sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Perfect_Chaos)
@@Eldarin yea man seriously. Fingers crossed for Adventure remakes, personally. Still feel that's the best rendition of 3D sonic, gameplay-wise. Would love to see them with hardware that can handle an speed-based, open world.
They had better use those storyboards for the potential remake.
if they do I *reaaaaallly* hope they add them as they added more to the story and didn't affect it better or worse in anyway imo
3:15 Okay, laughed my ass off for a straight minute at that
Hey im so happy to hear you found it funny, thanks for watching!
9:54 ngl reminds me of the pre-rendered backrounds from Final Fantasy 7.
YES! I thought the same thing...certainly would've been interesting if we had some pre-rendered backgrounds instead of the adventure field! Thanks for watching :)
3:10 that’s my neighbour Totoro to you, good sir 🐈⬛