Do You Put Sugar in Cornbread? -- Back Porch Bickerin'
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2019
- Does sugar belong in cornbread? Calli says yes, a little is okay, but Matt firmly believes sugar is only for tea and cake. Who do you side with?
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You guys should do polls at the end of the video where you can vote team A( in this case sugar) and team B ( no sugar)! Then we can settle the debate once and for all!! Great Video :)
Team B here, absolutely no sugar in cornbread
Indeed, a great Idea.
one before and one after
@@letitswissarmy Yes!! That would be super cool!
YES FR
Calli's face when Matt called her a Yankee.😂
Had me rolling 😂😂🤣
Well, when you do Yankee things..............
Yeah, he’s disgusted at the idea of a spoon of sugar in cornbread, but I’ll bet he will run from across the busy highway for those Little Debbie Christmas cakes! 🤔😂🤣
Well, yeah - they're Lil' Debbies
That's true. He loves those Christmas cakes.
I am from Texas and I swear I recently heard this exact debate at a backyard get-together 😂 "God would prefer you didn't add sugar.." I'm rolling on the floor dying 😆
I am from Texas my family put sugar in cornbread my friends from Nola like sugar in cornbread
That's what Jesus said in 2nd Convictions Chapter 5
@@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen LOL 😂
@@MsMandyandy maybe that's why my Nola friend puts sugar in his green beans. Yuck!
Sugar in cornbread is like beans in chili. It's edible, and maybe even good if well made, but it's no longer the original food.
Cornbread -> Cake
Chili -> Chili with beans
I love that he called her a Yankee.
Made me laugh when he said that
It was all fun and games until he called her the y word
I'm from PA and now live in SC. Always referred to as a Yankee lol
Max Werner wow so please tell me they don’t Lot of confederate flags all over the place
@@Mr.Burton17 UK flags go CATS
I only started adding sugar to my Jiffy mixture a few years ago. Once you go sugar, you'll never go back. It seems tasteless without that tiny pinch of sugar.
My Lord. Jiffy is already full of sugar AND it's more flour than cornmeal!
Lemelia, have you notice that Jiffy has become very sweet tasting in the past year?
Also, do you miss the waxed paper bag?
I used those things for everything :)
Jiffy is already sweet, then you add more sugar?
One cannot possibly make cornbread using Jiffy.
Okay, your first problem is you use Jiffy mix and call it cornbread. Real cornbread is made in a cast iron skillet so it has that delicious, thick brown crust and does not contain sugar.
“What is wrong with you? You want less sugar in your cobbler and more in your corn bread? You are broken” lol love that
I honestly like both. I see them as two different dishes. One is corn bread, the other is corn cake. And they are both tasty!
We’re from Louisiana and ALWAYS put sugar in our cornbread- including my grandma.
true blue533 FINALLY! Someone who understands me! I grew up with Jiffy cornbread so it's all I know!
Not everyone!!
Ok, here is the thing...my momma made THE BEST corn read you would ever eat! She used Martha White cornmeal, Martha White flour (a smidge), baking powder, hot water, oil, buttermilk, and salt. She mixed by eyeing it all and poured it into a hot, greased iron skillet. When it came out of the oven, the bottom reminded me almost of the old Pizza Hut pan pizza crust. It was SOOO good, the crust was AMAZING. She tried to write out the recipe before she passed, but it wasn't right. She would always say, "Pour the hot water in til it looks like this....then add the oil til it feels like this..." I have have never been able to recreate it. She was a master of cornbread. 💗
Exactly! In my apprenticeship of learning how to make it up to his standards, everything was eyeballed, by feel and look.
@@jameswilliamson4856 She always started with a couple (eyeballed) tablespoons of HOT water, then added in the buttermilk.
Yass! This is the way my family made it.
All the best cooks don't measure .Lol
Ellie honey....buy the Martha White cornmeal mix. It's already got the baking powder, salt, and flour in it. That way, you can do the rest. Honest, it'll come out much better. I'm 67, and I switched years ago. AND there's a good recipe on the bag. I think you might be happily surprised.
I put sugar in my cornbread and every one loves it!
I asked My mom and she said you add a lil sugar, so that’s the end of that debate
I asked my mom, mother-in-law, and my grandma. All three said no sugar. So, the debate is over and sorry that your mom does it wrong.
Mother doesn't always know best. That's something she's dead wrong on.
@@matthewdavenport9549Wrong! I am from NC and cornbread from any home and any home cookin' restaurants had both sweet and non-sweet cornbread. The correct answer is its OPINION. Everybody has one.
@@cafemochavibe I was mocking jackinblack19
You're both right, though the sugar issue here is about "purity" of a recipe and style that goes back when most people in the South couldn't afford much of anything if we didn't grow it.
I'm a northerner dating a southerner. You need a dating guide for these sorts of relationships 😂
Dont do it....
That's not necessary I came from Missouri and my late husband came from South Carolina and we were married for 39yrs Y'all will get along just fine with out any instructions I promise that Bless your heart honey 😆
Just convert to a southerner. It's better that way
Good luck....lol
Bless your heart!
“Corn is in the name so therefore cornbread is healthy.” This man speaks my language!
And turns out corn is one of the most unhealthy things on the planet!
I'm from the caribbean. We put sugar (and not just a little) in our cornbread. It's so good!!
I grew up with cornbread with three ingredients: meal, vegetable oil, and buttermilk. That's the way my grandmother learned it from her mom. So good enough for me.
No egg?
@@jameswilliamson4856 nope. I was told that would make it too much like a cake.
@@mandolinman2006 forget that new fangled vegetable oil! Bacon grease and serve with butter!
No bacon grease?
Mom never used sugar in cornbread, and I always have liked it. I went 20 plus years without knowing people put sugar in it. It's better without it.
I went 18 years. I never knew people put suger cornbread until this video.
I am 52 and I just found out people put sugar in cornbread just a few years ago. No way!
I'm from Louisiana, and sugar is the only way. Crumbled into a glass with milk over it, YUM!
I prefer no sugar but I don't dislike it with sugar. It just switches it from meal to dessert. That said my favourite is cornbread with jalapenos and sharp cheddar baked in.
Oh my goodness I feel the same way. I used to hate stuffing. I never knew until I was about 16 there was a stuffing made out of bread instead of cornbread.
Corn bread ain't supposed to be sweet. Me and my husband actually got in a huge argument in Winn Dixie one day over this. I wanted corn bread so he grabbed some jiffy mix. I got fightin' mad 😡 and said that I didn't want no Yankee Corn bread. I mean full on Southern Hissy Fit mad. He got mad in return and left me at the store. We've been married 17 years and that is the craziest argument we have ever had, lol.
Wrong
This was a worthwhile argument! When he left you at the store you should have found a man who likes real cornbread and went home with him!!! 😂😂😂
Y'ALL IT DEPENDS on the type of cornbread!!! My momma makes several different types of cornbread for different occasions, some have sugar some don't.
Most applications of cornbread are better without sugar. In beans, in dumplings, in cornbread dressing, with some melted butter on it. All better without sugar. If you're just eating the cornbreak by itself without any butter, it is still probably better without sugar but, would probably be ok.
I agree with BOTH to some degree. 1 t sugar in OLD recipe for cornbread or cornsticks cooked in cast iron pans. From OLD Atlanta, Georgia restaurant cookbook. Classic. Delicous. The 1 t sugar (to 1 c cornmeal & 1/2 flour then baking powder, salt, and soda...w/ buttermilk of course) is part of the CHEMISTRY (cooking is chemistry!!) for the perfect SAVORY cornbread. More than the 1 t and it's too sweet. Even my 1928 "Mrs Dull's Southern Cooking" book has 1 t sugar.
Atlanta that figures those folks are looneybirds anyhow
This time, I'm Team Matt. Sugar goes into tea, not cornbread.
That's what my great grandma always said.
@@ihateyankees3655 your great grandma was a wise person.
@@tk4225m I'm sure she would have been happy to hear that.
PockyFiend exactlyyyyy
Truth
I'm in Michigan I only know what my grandmother (from Kentucky) did, she made a cornbread with a little sugar she called Jonniecake for a treat but no regular to eat with meals.
I am from Florida and use my momma’s recipe which makes a sweeter cornbread. I went to school in Tennessee, tried their cornbread, and was shocked how unsweetened it was
i get so excited when i get a notification that y’all posted😂
MissBananaAnna annnnna
Blythe Davis blytheeee
Cornbread should only be sweetened by whatever amount the sweet yellow corn brings to the mix.
Or the occasional honey butter
Or Sorghum.
Honey on cornbread is of the Yankee Devil.
The 11th Amendment says this:
_"Thou shalt not mix sugar into thine cornbread."_
I totally disagree, I was raised on Jiffy mix. But that was so funny and I totally liked it.
"Thou shalt put a little sprinkle of sugar in thy cornbread to make thy cornbread delicious."
The 20th amendment: y'all can ignore the 12th amendment bless their hearts
amen.
Commandment?
Sweet Cornbread is the best. Especially in chilli. 😋
The sugar you think belongs in your cornbread is sugar that belongs in your Sweet Tea. Case. Closed.
Bahahahahahaha
@Tony Ashford - Not in the south! That's sacrilege!
What?
Sugar is an ingredient in cornbread!!
Sweet tea, sweet cornbread, sweet gals, sweet everything in the south.
@@littledancingfawn - Well, so it would seem, but true southerners would never allow sugar in cornbread. That's a northern thing them Yankees do (which makes it cake).
No sugar in cornbread. That aint right lol
1/4 teaspoon of sugar too feed the buttermilk and soda.
and to make up for the crappy corn meal we have today as a result of large scale industrial farms and mills.
"You are broken!" lol I love Matt's unfiltered quotes.
For me it depends on what I am having with it. Like corn bread for chili or beans mostly without sugar but in the morning or lunch with a cup of coffee or tea I add sugar or atleast put some preserves on it. But I am 100% anti putting corn nibblets in cornbread. I know they say it makes it moister but hell just give me the corn on the side.
That would depend on what the cornbread will be eaten with. Sweet with savory. Savory with sweet. What goes with red beans might not work best with breakfast.
Southern cornbread has no sugar. If you put sugar in it, you have Yankee cornbread (i.e. cake).
With each and every grain of sugar one adds to cornbread, they lose whatever southern credentials they have.
cake is not cornbread , and neither is cornbread with a tad sugar.
its just a little sugar, nothing like cake
That's not true. Sugar corn bread is not a yankee thing, it's a slavery thing. It originated in the south
Yankees don't eat cornbread at all. Most don't even know what it is.
Not even Yankee cornbread has sugar in it, that why you put honey on after
I’m sorry, I’m gonna say it. Born and raised in East Tennessee and I put sugar in my cornbread. 🤷🏻♀️
Y'all, I have 4 different mayonnaises in my fridge.. There ain't no reason I can't have more than one type of cornbread too! All cornbread matters 🙌
Sugar? No. Honey? YES.
Cornmeal, salt, water, bacon fat. Nuff said!
Buttermilk?
you gotta have a mix of fats. all bacon fat tastes nasty.
Just a spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go down 😉 add some sugar
Cornbread isn't medicine. You don't need to hide the taste of it.
Matts high. Amazing cornbread has a touch of sugar in it! And real corn bread mix comes from Chelsea Michigan!
When I was just a little boy, my Daddy taught me how to make Cornbread. He threatened me with Life and Limb if he EVER caught me putting Sugar in the Cornbread and for that fact, flour.
"You're not making a cake, it's Cornbread, Boy!"
I've read articles where adding flour was considered a "poor man's cornbread". It was added to make the cornmeal stretch.
RIGHT! NO FLOUR! LOL!
You gotta a smart Dad
nah if it has a ratio of flour it makes a better cornbread. about 1 to 3.
I like RUclips your daddy is a good, God fearing man.
Growing up I HATED my mom's cornbread with the burning fiery passion of a thousand suns -- it was so bland, dense and flat. Then I found a recipe for buttermilk cornbread... with sugar. My cornbread has blown my mom's out of the water. She gave up making it anymore because it never gets eaten ever since her children and grandchildren discovered there's something better out there.
For me it depends on what I'm eating with my cornbread. Sweet cornbread is great with barbecued meats & picnic sides. I prefer regular cornbread with fried fish, beans, or soups 😋
I love Jiffy cornbread , all my grandma ever made, and that’s IN TEXAS .. 100$ says that 70% of yalls “grandmas secret” was adding a tad bit of sugar in her corn bread
I know. Just a tad hurts nothing.
The grandmas of today are not the grandmas of yesteryear who really knew how to make southern cornbread, Texas or elsewhere in the south.
Ummmm.....false.... When she passed, I made copies of her recipes. No sugar in cornbread.
@@bfg5291 If she wrote it in her recipe, it wouldn't be a "secret ingredient" now would it?
@Winston Smith jiffy is the base mix she used .. they lived on a 100acre farm in Oklahoma with very very very little money , she always added a lot of stuff to it , but it was gooood.. my grandpa used to get a slice of cornbread with Beans and mix it in his coffee cup and then add buttermilk in it ... makes me wanna throw up thinking about it
No sugar !!!
He is absolutely correct! Once you add suger to cornbread it is no longer bread, at that point it becomes muffin and/or cake. Cornbread is a savory dish, and corn muffins are a sweet dish. I mean, both are great in their own ways, but they are not the same thing! Y'all are arguin' over apples and oranges! Well, more like red apples and green apples. They have similar ingredients, they both contain cornmeal, but the finished products are very different. And that's why they're called different things.
Ok, I was raised on Jiffy corn bread so I'm sure you already know my stance. But cornbread isn't bread. I dont care what it's called, it has the texture of cake not bready at all.
Texan here and yes! lol. To me, cornbread is for stuffing, corn muffins are a side dish. I grew up eating sweet cornbread as a dinner side and unsweetened was reserved for holidays.
Also I call them the same thing lol
Just because it has just an itsy-bitsy amount of Sugar, does not mean it's a Cake. 😆
@@kayagaffney5922 well dang it, Jiffy falls apart more than Cake does!
I'm with Matt. Coming from Oklahoma we always eat savory cornbread in our house. The jiffy brand would be considered a muffin or a sweet. Love this channel! Keep up the great content
Calli's issue was that she was trying to downplay how much sugar you should put. I put a good amount and I'm proud! The sugar doesn't essentially change it into cake. I've learned from cooking Asian food that sugar makes everything better!
So does butter and bacon! 😋
If I want a muffin I will buy blueberries, but cornbread can't be sweet if you want your dinner to taste right. It's a Northern thing and I know because I am from Alabama and have been stuck in New York for 3years and they don't have regular cornbread.
Put blueberries in the cornbread but I use blue corn meal and sugar
It's not a northern thing... you noreasterners gotta put sugar in something to make up for your unsweetened tea
You have my sympathies. You're right, they don't have a clue up there.
Team Calli, on this one. I now use coconut oil, to grease my, cast iron pan, it gives a light lovely, just a hint of sweetness. Perfect.
My family hails from West Virginia and yes we put honey or sugar and cornbread some places call it Johnny cake it's great with or without sugar
"Sugar goes in tea, not cornbread. I want that on my tombstone." -Kevin Isbell (Adam Schwartz)
I always look forward to a brand new video from y'all
Agree with Matt, the differences between johnnycake, cornbread and corn cake are subtle but they are there
Sugar in corn cake (most restaurants serve this)
No sugar in corn bread or Johnnycake
Though honey on johnnycake when served is very nice
There is not sugar in Johnny cake.... muffins have sugar
Corn bread with sugar is great. Corn bread without sugar is compost!
I was just asking myself this question today and I literally thought of asking a southerner! Look at God!
This is the way
My husband and i used to argue about that, lol. I liked it that way and he called it more of a dessert bread. I do put about about a teaspoon to help it rise. I also mix yellow and white cornmeal evenly as it tastes better. Yes, he liked white and I liked yellow and the combination made us both happy. And I don't use a mix, either. Ya'll need to get Shawnee Mills, Oklahoma made. Which yes, is Southern.
So did me and my ex..... one if the many reasons she isnt around any more.....
Get some blue corn meal and make some
@@dm8867 oh yea!
I just spewed diet Dr. Pepper out of my nose when Matt used the term "BIG CORNBREAD." Hope y'all are safe during all the storms in Alabama.
It aint no storm its 4 tornados!
Praying for y’all! Have they moved out of the state yet?
@@teresawise7331 im not sure
Teresa Wise it’s pretty common here actually 😂 it literally rains/ storms everyday!
Cornbread, slathered with butter and doused in maple syrup - Good stuff!
I was a cook on Submarines and found that the Southerners on board were no sugar in Corn Bread advocates and all the Yankees on board wanted Corn Bread Cake. Being from Tennessee myself, they all got real Corn Bread with no sugar.
When I’m eating a spicy bowl of chili, a little sugar in the cornbread is nice to balance the heat.
“The best things in life have sugar in them.....Me you and cornbread.”
*smirk*
Preach it Calli!!!
I call cornbread with sugar in it "Yankee cornbread"!!!
We put butter and honey on top of jiff, but my mother in law introduced me to Krusteaze and it is now my favorite.
Team NO SUGAR!! Cornbread is meant to be savory.
Jamie Parks Amen forevermore
Exactly!!! There are things that you add to cornbread, and sugar ain't one of them. If you want sweet cornbread, add some creamed corn.... otherwise pepper and onion, cracklins, country ham or bacon.
I love all cornbread. With or without sugar, I will eat way too much! 😂
Savory ftw.
@@kingfuzzy2 I mean.... I'll eat some Jiffy box mix.... I wont love it, but I'll eat it.... cuz cornbread.
Sugar in corn bread?! WHAT?! naaaahhh
EDIT: ok I just asked my mom if u put sugar in cornbread and she said yes but just a little. Not to make it sweet but just to take some of the bitterness off. So apparently my whole life there has been sugar in my corn bread. Idk if I have had corn bread without sugar so rn I’m on the fence 🤷🏻♀️depends on which I like better
Yes! Good cooks know that adding a pinch of sugar helps enhance the flavor of a recipe. It's being used as a seasoning, not as an ingredient. While that pinch of sugar will improve the flavor it will not increase the sweetness.
@@JGW845 exactly. Sugar is used in cooking to bind flavors.
@@JGW845 Yes, it brings out the flavor of the corn. Without it, it's boring. Couple of drops of lemon extract is great too.
Important to make sure it's "a pinch" not enough to taste but a pinch will not only take away the bitterness, but I think it makes the crust pretty
I like both. It depends on what I'm in the mood for and what I'm eating with it.
Sugar as a seasoning not a sweetener is my favorite quote in the kitchen 😁
“If you want something sweet, order the pound cake. Anybody who puts sugar in the corn bread is a heathen who doesn't love the Lord, not to mention Southeastern Conference football.”
― Lewis Grizzard, Southern by the Grace of God
Yeeyee
@James Ratliff - Can't have soup beans without cornbread with lots of butter.
Bahahahahaha
*_ALL HAIL ATHEISM!!_*
@James Ratliff - Soup beans and sweet corn bread doesn't ring true either.
My grandmother was from SC. She didn't put sugar in her cornbread but on Sundays she'd have Karo syrup for it...so best of both worlds
My parents were born and raised in Wisconsin. I was raised in California.
I never tasted sugar in cornbread until I moved to the south!! I was hooked!!!
I was born and raised is California: no sugar in our cornbread.
We used Albers, being the prevailing brand in California.
Nothing wrong with sweet unless your mind is set on regular cornbread.
no sugar
sugar in cornbread is sacrilegious.
I could listen to Calli talk always.
"This sugar, this cornbread, _YOU_ "
*Record Scratch*
Oh hell to the no....love my sugar, but no no no no sugar in cornbread. That's a Yankee thing. Jiffy is yankee
Beth Shadid that explains my case
I was born and raised in NC. My grandma & mom put just a little bit of sugar in corn bread. There is a huge difference between their corn bread and cake.
I have lived in northern West Virginia for 20 years. The further north you go, it's hard to find cornmeal and grits. I've not had a problem with the cornmeal, but grits is another thing. Cornbread with a little sugar is definitely southern.
Well I'm from the upper midwest and even I know you dont put sugar in cornbread or even Johnny cakes.... you put maple syrup on Johnny cakes... but no sugar in the mix
I guess that's my problem then. Born and raised in PA. Moved to SC and got married. I put sugar in my cornbread. You can take the Yankee out of the north but you can't take the north out of the Yankee 😂
Beth Shadid wtf is wrong with you people I am from the north but nobody from here puts that nasty shit into cornbread. I still see the secret war north vs south
No sugar... In grits, spaghetti, or cornbread!!!!!!😫😫😫
Spaghetti??? Who does that? Sounds awful.
@@jameswilliamson4856 You'd be surprised!!!!
Elf puts syrup in his spaghetti 😂😂
You put a tad sugar in spaghetti sauce to cut the acidity a bit..
@@tdgreenbay I do, but not enough to sweeten the whole dish.
My grandma been puttin sugar in her cornbread since before I was born and everyone loves it so much! Right out the oven, some butter on it and thats good eatin right there
From a chemical standpoint, sugar is hygroscopic. This means that it holds on to water and therefore keeps the cornbread a bit more moist. I often find cornbread very dry, so I use a bit of sugar or honey (same property) to hold onto some moisture.
I am not southern but I love this channel
same
Sabrina Marie Facts. Greetings from NYC
neither am I but I like the South
Pennsyltucky by birth. Southern by the grace of God.
@@jameshildreth768 the endless sea of corn
A warm, savory cornbread with butter melted on top and drip some honey over it. How do we feel about that?
Conflicted.....
Oh yeah!!!
I mean.... I see that as a "dessert" and no longer "cornbread".... and yes, I have eaten it more times than I like to admit. Lol
Sounds like a damn dream.
Best way to do it. Way my granny did it and she was the most southern lady I’ve ever known.
I'm a Southeast Texas gal and everybody has their own preference. My bunch likes sugar in skillet cornbread but no sugar in fried hot water cornbread. I do like leftover cornbread with no sugar but I crumble it up in a glass of milk and add sugar to eat at night on the front porch. Love it.
Sugar makes it fluffier! I put sugar in my cornbread, just a couple of tablesooons. Also, I make VERY good sausage gravy and homemade biscuits!! Mmmmm....
I won't judge but I'll say this yall: at 70 odd I have never put sugar in my cornbread. Neither my maternal not paternal grandparents nor great grandparents on both sides ever put sugar in cornbread. My father would have thrown me out of the kitchen and said if I was going to ruin good bread I could go cook for some yankee!
At 70 your tastebuds are long gone and dont notice it needs a touch of sugar
Pssst.......many a Yankee doodle dandy knows not how to make bread in the first place, and yes, yeast breads require at least 1 tablespoon of Sugar which the yeast feeds off of. Gotta feed the yeast! 😆 😆 😆
Cornbread with sugar in it is not cornbread, it is cake.
Love jiffy mix,while my husband from Arkansas makes it without sugar. I also like a little sugar in spaghetti sauce,and greens.
Sugar makes savory things a little more savory, and salt makes sweet things taste a little more sweet. It's the fun of chemistry in the kitchen!
Sugar doesn't belong in cornbread
Its official cali is a yankee that lives in the south
It stated in the south not the north. New England continued to eat indian meal "cornbread" traditionally. 19th century history 🤓
Also 3:12 "you are broken" 😂 that's how I feel about people who like brussel sprouts
"God prefers you not too". Lmao!!!!
Heavens no!
Hey, I'm watching this from Yonkers, NY . ( I agree with Matt)
I have had both kinds being born and raised in NC. The correct answer is its just personal preference. Southern food includes both types whether served at a local home style cooking restaurant or just at home.
I like it both ways. Depends on what I'm eating it with on if I add sugar or not
“Corn is in the name so inherently it’s good for you.” Once again everyone Matt stands undefeated! You cannot argue against him!
My reasons are what makes it unhealthy so he's wrong !
Amanda H never said it was
One word rebuttal: corndog
Team matt no sugar
Just a bit in cornmeal. Snd sweet butter spread a top the hot cornbread.
Y’all are best 😂❤️
Sugar in cornbread or vegetables is a big no no for me. Yes, I agree that sugar in cornbread is cake. You can't taste the corn.
Every good Southern cook I have known, including me, always put a touch of sugar into a pot of gteens, whether they be collard, mustard,turnip, or kale greens. The sugar takes the edge off the bitterness that greens may have. Incidentally, collards are quite a bit more nutrient-dense than kale, so why has kale become the green god?
Renee Mulherin putting sugar on green beans makes them taste worse. What are ya crazy?
@@calmfulspider No, I am not crazy. I never said anything about green beans. What? Can't ya' read? But on that note, sugar can be used much like salt to enhance or bring out the flavor of certain foods. It is not just for sweets. Why do recipes for sweet things call for salt? Because it brings out the flavor!
@@reneemulherin2899 I grew up without sugar in greens, mustard, turnip or collard, but I put vinegar on the greens after they are cooked to cut the bitterness.
Right you are old sir. Corn is already sweet enough as is. No need for anymore sugar.