Danzo can shatter susanno ribcage with sheer pure windstyle and tsunade can break susano bones and use it against em. And gaara easily grabs sasuke from his foot away from his susanoo. Ems is done.
This is the most praise ive ever heard Mei being given, is the respecting Mei arc beginning? gonna get Mei and chojuro vs Akatsuki 😂(loki would be interesting tbf)
It's surprising a underrated gorgeous fair lady like Mei Terumi whose considered average tier now in the Naruto verse would technically have the attack potency and durability nessesary to solo verses like Jujutsu Kaisen killing somebody like Sukuna pretty easily. I bet she would do pretty well up against Akame Ga Kill as well. Probably having more difficulty against Shikoutazer due to it's 500 meter size though.
@@spicyboi544 Mei comes off as a little underwhelming compared to the Kage, but she is every bit a peer of them. Her acid melts Madara and Sasuke’s Susanoo, she can track when combo her jutsu with the Raikage’s speed, and she can take hits from the Susanoo. How people used to think she’s “hidan level” is crazy
Amaterasu has the Avada Kadavra treatment. It's so powerful that it can never ever work on anyone important because that's literally game over, so all it ever does is absolutely cook (heh) fodder characters or non-fodder who have specific outs. That in turn makes Amaterasu look weaker than it is.
@Necromancer4267 Amaterasu isn't as strong as you make it out to be - Jigen/Kaguya tanked it and simply absorbed it. Naruto made a chakra shroud and then shedded his chakra to remove it. Juubi simply removed the affected area from an enhanced version. Katsuyu can do the same like the juubi, just remove the affected area. It has only seriously affected fodder characters.
@@OkairMcLaren "It's so powerful that it can never ever work on anyone important because that's literally game over, so all it ever does is absolutely cook (heh) fodder characters or non-fodder who have specific outs. That in turn makes Amaterasu look weaker than it is." Thanks for proving my point.
@Necromancer4267 I did read your comment - You saying it's game over if it hits is what I'm debating. Yes, we both admitted it only works on fodder lol.
Great to see the EMS Sasuke love always. I think it’s always a debate with the Gokage and fighters who are just below or at that initial KCM2 tier like you mentioned at the start of the vid. This is very much early EMS. I think that middle tier where Mastered KCM and that EMS (who’s much stronger) that are in that Hokage Minato, Tobirama levels of power I think can defeat the Gokage but yea peak EMS bullies them Also, I am of the opinion that the majestic attire is the perfect susano’o. There shouldn’t be a difference in susano’o versions as Madara declares that susano’o the perfect susano’o but it’s just that the chakra has (in Onoki’s words) “settled down” which I think just means the avatar has stabilized. So it would just mean the majestic attire is that same susano’o but the chakra has stabilized around the kyuubi or kyuubi avatar. To me, there shouldn’t be a difference in terms of one form is higher but they’re the same form just ones chakra is fully stable. Sasuke does the same stabilizing of chakra before going around the Kurama avatar which also leads to my second point: EMS Sasuke’s susano’o that progressed to the majestic attire/perfect stage would have to be equal if not superior to Naruto’s sage Kurama avatar only simply because Minato’s kyuubi chakra was also amping that Naruto’s avatar to the point Minato was back in base until the tug of war with Juubito. Obviously the majestic attire they are both equally pulling their weight but if they were separate entities Sasuke’s avatar would be slightly stronger in my opinion. I’m of the opinion that they are just blatant equals and similar to a final valley Hashirama and Madara scenario where it’s paper thin. It would make sense since they both get the same level of six paths amps but Sasuke has to get used to new abilities & eye whereas Naruto’s new abilities are ones where he can instantly use with full understanding via six paths sage mode, truth seeker orbs and the Bijuu helping him out
I think I’m more partial to the idea that the True Form isn’t that far off in strength from the PS, since Naruto & Sasuke both get similar power ups and their respective avatars are still close in strength. I just personally don’t give him the P.S since the Rinnegan acts as almost a cheat code for unlocking eye abilities. It’s really micro stuff but, I do think the True Form is a bit more consistent, with the P.S just not being that fair off in terms of strength. You can also argue due to the nature of the True Form and how its chakra has to stabilize the P.S may actually not be able to wrap around the Kyuubi Avatar like the True Form as when Sasuke does it later on the form is very different.
This video and your “How Strong Is EMS Sasuke” videos are great. No one gives Sasuke enough credit for how strong he becomes throughout the War Arc. Mastery with the EMS and Rinnegan takes a lot more experience than obtaining the Nine Tails Chakra
It's wild how Gaara went from a normal Chidori puncturing him to being able to block Amaterasu. I wonder if Chidori spears and the different other variants Sasuke made in Part 2 could break through it.
@@AurasFeel Probably not at all. At the summit he barely pierced the Raikage’s lightning cloak. The Raikage at max power failed to break through Gaara’s sand and neither did Amaterasu which itself burned through the Raikage’s cloak.
Amaterasu deals different type of damage compared to a piercing thrust attack like chidori. Sand is naturally strong against fire obviously unless sasuke uses honnoikazuchi and turns them into spikes like he did to break kaguya's ice. Chidori should still pierce him
The only way I see EMS Sasuke losing is if he gets caught by the sealing jutsu they used on Madara.....or at least his clone LOL Other than that, Sasuke is way faster, stronger, versatile, and has feats that put him way above the Five Kage like reacting to Six Path Obito's attack before Naruto and MInato could. Tanking an alive Madara's Burning Ash jutsu with no damage or Susano and also got praised by Madara for his swift movements. Susano with legs and shield laced with Amaterasu, Blaze Release to control the flames and spread it out however he wants, basically controlling the playing field. Susano arrows are fast/strong enough to kill all of them except maybe Raikage or Tsuchikage who can get away but then Sasuke came up from behind and pretty much snuck up and butt-fucked their game up by stabbing them with Susano swords and let their blood drip in a teacup. Basically, I don't see them winning at all, EMS Sasuke is a beast!
Don't forget genjutsu Sasuke ms genjutsu was so strong that it left a genjutsu-type ninja out of combat even after being awakened and in Naruto Jinraiden Sasuke ms showed a tsukuyomi level genjutsu.
Another feat from one of Sasuke's manga was when he took on a regiment of 1000 shinobi and defeat them in a few hours and earned the title of swordmaster because of it. Far surpassing the skills of individuals who supposedly deafeted 1000 shinobi over their lifetime. He also has his variety of chidori, which amp his speed durability and offensive ability, including using Kirin, which does have a prerequisite of creating a thundercloud above. Another example is his chidori senbon which can summon 1000s of little beams and blade of lightning to cut around him. As well as his amaterasu infused chidori. We also have the kagatsuchi amaterasu armor combo on top of his susanoo and amaterasu does cancel out regeneration but most opponents can get rid of it by throwing away a piece of cloth or chakra cloak. So I'd say if Sasuke were to stop mitotic regeneration with amaterasu he'd have to aim it at an extremely vital area which he wouldn't be beyond doing. Plus Sasuke did pretty well, not perfectly, but well enough at the 5 kage summit that I assume at EMS level instead of his MS blind level he'd have a significant amp to the point he'd be no slouch anymore.
Oh here's another good idea I have for a suggestion. The Shinobi Alliance versus the Monster Association from One Punch Man. Oh this is gonna be good. I think there is going to be alot of casualties statistically for the Shinobi Alliance's 80,000 Ninja army for each member of the Monster Association they will battle. Especially against the Dragon Tiers.
@@stephenking2895 Once jugo left and he supposedly unlocked the perfect susanno. Naruto and jugo notices that Sasuke is directly matching the power of the kuubi avatar with his susanno. I'm not saying he'd beat Naruto but to say their not relative is disingenuous. That's on top of jugo's CM only really giving Sasuke access to Nature energy. It wouldn't amp him that much if at all, especially in comparison to Naruto stacking sage mode
Now, I feel you need to do KCM Naruto vs the 5 kage. Because I feel like this goes completely different. I'm 20 mins in and I agree with everything so far. But it made me curious to just see Naruto vs them. I feel that's a completely different story
Day 1 of asking TG to do a sasori vs kakazu who would win. Ik this might seem kinda obvious who would win but when you think about it I think the fight is more closer than ppl think
I think a much more fair fight would be peak MS sasuke vs the 5 kage. Only because sasuke isn’t madara so he’s not going to play around with the 5 kage. He’d likely just pull out the perfect susano very early and stomp them all. The 5 kage have shown that they’re powerless against a perfect susano. In conclusion Ems sasuke wins negative diff. Peak MS sasuke is a lot more fair and interesting.
@@taecampus Ems sasuke wrapped the perfect susano around Naruto’s Kcm avatar. It’s the exact same armor as the complete susano and this armor is stated to be exclusive to the perfect susano. A weaker version of MS sasuke nearly killed full power ay 1v1 if not for gaaras interference. Ay is easily one of the strongest of the 5 kage which would at least put this version of sasuke above Mei and gaara. So a hypothetical healthy peak MS sasuke would definitely give the 5 kage a tough fight.
@@musamanhique6601 because he literally couldn't do it 🤣 He was using his version, with legs added to make it more mobile. At most, he was on par with Itachi's. Where it has that cloak over it. There was plenty of time, especially against the Ten Tails, or against Juubito, where a he could've used it.
@@taecampus because he wasn’t trying to for whatever reason. But there’s no denying that he wrapped the perfect susano around Kurama. So this isn’t even up for debate. Ems sasuke had perfect susano cope.
Ive always felt like Sasuke was a lot stronger than Itachi when they fought Kabuto. Sasuke was crushed internally and emotionally while Itachi had stern resolve. Itachi will forever have his win conditions in the absurd MS abilities he has in Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and his special totsuka/yata combo. The difference in the kabuto fight was Itachis IQ. It lets him fight considerably above his weight class. Hax and IQ are a nutty combo. Itachi also used a sacrificial forbidden jutsu he likely wouldve never used if he was still alive given the cost. Thats also why I think the later Uchiha abilities were heavily nerfed by plot. Just my take. Great video
It should still be the perfect susanoo because the tengu nose is only a characteristic feature of the perfect susanoo, nothing lower. The only requirement in the databook is to master the mangekyo which sasuke has definitely done when he has the ems.
@@ThunderGodTG Are you talking about chapter 620 and 621? The nose doesn't appear until 621 and in a complete straight form only when madara closes the nine tails mouth with susanoo. So madara just upgraded to perfect susanoo armour later on
The very last image we see of the Susano’o is the true form as that’s what Madara used to block the explosion, we never see him power it up further so it’s baseless to make that claim, he also would have just led with it if that’s the case considering Hashirama has fought it, for all we know the P.S may actually not be able to wrap around the Kyuubi. It’s not impossible to say Sasuke has the P.S but, it’s way more consistent that he has the True Form as he’s not listed as a user of the P.S and it really doesn’t make sense that he’d jump 2 Susano’o forms after just getting the legged.
I still think peak ems sasuke does have the perfect susanoo the armor the shoulder pads and the nose all look identical to the perfect susanoo and there is a statement that the armor of the perfect susanoo is unique and can’t be accessed by any of the lower forms plus I think it would make sense for him to have it because madara had it when he had the ems and sasuke has the ems too so I personally think peak ems sasuke has the perfect susanoo
It is pretty impressive Thundergod how even a low rank character like the gorgeous Lady Mei Terumi (who Kishimoto should have respected more then what he did to her in Boruto) would be considered the highest powerhouse in a world like Bingou Stray Dogs and Jujutsu Kaisen. Probably one shotting people like Sukuna and Francis Scott with low difficulty. I wonder how long Esdeath and Third Form Tatsumi from Akame Ga Kill and Kaiju No. 8 would last against the Akatsuki and Five Kages. Kaiju No. 8 is objecticely alot more durable and powerful then Esdeath and Tatsumi are since can tank and deliever attacks ranging in the low gigatons so he's probably going out last those two in a fight against the Kages.
@@MrRedbull901 If he's fast enough with his slashes which case his combat speed is not relativistic and most of the time he's been aim dodging attacks. And his dimension slash could only be used once in a sneak attack against Gojo when he had his guard down and was directly infront once and it cost him a binding vow in the process that significantly reduce his capacity to slash at his opponents. And keep in mind he's been getting more and more wounded as time progressed against these scaling wise town level characters who are not outputting megaton tier attacks against him. Mei Terumi should be able to manage it.
Katsuyu wasn't included during the madara fight cuz of plot because Madara can't hurt Katsuyu - Katsuyu still not being utilized here again despite her being so broken and versatile. For amaterasu, Katsuyu can make a body armour around all the kage and simply remove the affected area from herself thus nullifying the technique and lessening the need to regrow limbs etc. She will provide perfect resistance to genjutsu as Katsuyu clones and Tsunade are all telepathically linked to each other and can easily break each other out of genjutsu. Her physical make up will provide a durabilty amp basically making all types of physical blunt force attacks useless. Katsuyu is basically fireproof so firestyle won't hurt her. She will provide nature sensing, shared vision, healing, armour and instant communication across all kages. Her acid can also be used in conjunction with the kage's abilities - Her acid will affect susanoo as its sage energy - If anyone gets a limb removed or gets cut in half, katsuyu can easily reattach them via sticking her sections back together and healing the damage of the affected person. Katsuyu is so underutilized its stupid. Since sasuke is alive, medical ninjutsu will screw him up. The 5 kage vs madara fight was rushed and not properly done. Tsunade was never amped by ohnoki and katsuyu was never present on the battlefield. Tsunade can also amp her attacks like she did with ohnoki to focus it into a single point which should be enough to start cracking the perfect susanoo.
why can't sasuke just blitz them with regular chidori like he did against raikage in weaker ms? all of them slower than raikage and he got tagged by ms sasuke chidori
That was a lower version of the Raikage’s cloak and Sasuke still wasn’t massively above, they actually were close in speed Sasuke just utilized his Sharingan to weave out of the Raikage’s elbow. It’s neigh impossible to just say his chidori is just that fast at this point.
@@ThunderGodTG but that's lower version of Sasuke also. Sasuke could react to v2 & use amaterasu before raikage attacked. & none of the kages are on raikage's reaction speed so why couldn't ems sasuke blitz mei or tsunade with chidori for eg?
Sasuke's Chidori Speed isn't quantifiably that high at least arguing for Early EMS. Sasuke also reacts to V2 Raikage with his MS + Susano'o which are perception & speed above his Chidori amp which caps out higher than his regular sharingan not his MS. It's also not really necessary to make that leap when Sasuke's Susano'o is more provably capable of this feat.
Oonoki buff…Sasuke will be the one in deffense, getting speed blitzed by Raikage and he cant fight a single second without sussanoo activated due to particle style. His chakra is not infinite and no he doesnt have PS before rinnegan, majestic attire is somethig betwween V4 and PS
Thank you for being one of the only people I've ever heard know that Gudodamas and Onmyoudon are not the same thing, and aren't inherently together either. That the user has to actively apply it to their Gudodamas.
Ahoy there Thundergod. What do you think it would be like if either Garou or Ulquiorra Cifer were in the Naruto verse? How would they each individually fair against the Naruto cast and varies groups at the same time? No Cosmic Fear Garou though, Garou is way too powerful in that state. Just him through his regular forms as his adaption and anti durability attacks would be skills that would give him a big advantage. When he enters Monster Form is when Naruto should go all out or it becomes both a fight of attrition and escalation. Ulquiorra Cifer should do pretty well with Minato and Hashirama tiers in his base form since he's used to characters who can move faster then light and he himself has broken out of subspace prisons by use of his reiatsu and spiritual pressure so I think can handle them himself very well. His two Resurreccions forms and regeneration of limbs should be a great asset in the long run. I wonder how many characters he could take out with his Lanza Del Relampago and Cero attacks.
W vid man. I agree 100%, early EMS is probably gonna lose. This is pretty consistent, especially because he’s still pretty relative to Itachi putting him around that Pain/Nagito level by extension. And I see Itachi and Pain losing against the 5 kage in a 1v5 because of teamwork.
@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc they got some pretty crazy combos in the war arc. That’s what makes this a dicey fight for either pain or Itachi. It’s not impossible for them to win, but it is definitely a high dif fight.
@@___________0Z0X Itachi won't survive. He could bare defeat 3 of them. But Pain will win. His summons along will keep them busy and then he can take care of each on 1 vs 1
@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc that’s his best bet, but Onoki is a counter to the summons with particle style. Also, they would have Intel on Payne. Itachi might be able to win through careful use of the MS and his Susano, but facing multiple opponents is not good for him.
@@___________0Z0X Careful use of Ms and Susano won't help him here. The kages are not dumb. Also Each of them is a power house that can fight for hours. Together He doesn't stand a chance. Enoki will attack from the air, Gaara from the ground 'A' will attack from behind, Tunade from the front and Mei would start the attack with an acid release. There is nothing he can do. Pain on the other hand at least can summon Gedo Statue or just use Shinra tensei
Amaterasu is the only saving grace here. If it’s a real life battle, I would spam that and probably walk away with the win. In Naruto rules he’s just not taking out all the Kage with that ability, and we already saw collectively how many Susano they brought down. The mist obscures his vision, and they will resort to it immediately. The mizukage covered the entire battlefield with it. Sasuke doesn’t have a fire power, nor the wood style combo to dissipate it in one go. Gaara already counters Amaterasu, Sasuke even praised him for it. And no, he wasn’t praising him for blocking some less lethal form of the jutsu . He knows his defense. If it was a simple projectile, Sasuke wouldn’t give him props.
Not that it makes too much sense since she's the medic, but bruh, if Onoki used lightened boulder jutsu on Tsunade instead of Ay, boyyyy the kage might have cleaned up!
It is a unfortunate pity. The Raikage is hyped up as the 2nd strongest next to Tsunade but contributing that factor with being faster then her yet the impact of his power and strength leaves much to be desired for in results.
0:11 oh. i'm disappointed. i thought this was gonna be like a, "EMS Sasuke vs 5 Kage" in the sense of, well, ya know. right? "What If Sasuke had the EMS in time for the 5 Kage Summit?" so, what difference would the EMS had made during that gauntlet
Hey man I think I have a pretty cool video Idea. Dunno If u like western cartoons but if u do how about vids like Finn and Jake vs the chunin exams or Rick and Morty vs the Akatsuki or even Zim vs the Sound four. Mixing western and eastern cartoons in vs battles could be rly fun I think.
@@ThunderGodTG I just think there is so much missed potential in always seperating Anime and Cartoons. I think u could rly draw in a new audience with that. Also have u ever considered doing more character/narrative analysis? I always love when u do this in ur vids and imo ur rly good at it. I know ur views dip when u don't focus on Naruto scaling but sometimes u need to take risks to succeed. I'm only saying this cause I think ur such a pasionate guy and I fear u burning out when limiting urself to a narrow type of content. Just wish u the best my man!
10:54 Wait why is Mei so useful here?? I know people always downplay Mei but I didn't realize how useful she is. Her hidden mist ninjutsu, boil release and water to counter all of Sasuke's fire style. She is truly just that girl. Big and Bad. Also someone said this already but you should include Katsuyu more. She can counter everything Sasuke can do i.e 1) Heal the cage if they get hurt 2) Break them out of genjutsu 3)Blocking amaterasu and removing pieces of herself etc. Also can't Mei use boil release and have everyone else fly up with Gaara and Ohnoki?
@@ThunderGodTG Even if she splits up? And that’s what I’m talking about. If she spreads to every Kage(which we’ve seen Tsunade do) and she gets put under genjutsu they can break her out or vice versa if the Kage fall to genjutsu. You see how brilliant the plan is?
Honestly that’s if she gets the chance to, Madara also didn’t bother with Genjutsu in the fight since the Kage could break each other out regardless. So it’s not a make it or break it boy in the fight.
@@ThunderGodTG Madara did bother with genjutsu against Ay remember. And that’s just genjutsu. She can also heal them, block Amaterasu ( for the slow ones), share info etc. I feel like you grossly understated her usefulness.
That was a Madara wood Clone, Madara was playing with the Kage and wanted to break their will entirely. It’s a complete afterthought for him especially when he has options like forest Bloom that completely stun and knock out the Kage much better. Madara would also have to revert back to his Sharingan to use it which could open up a Particle Style against him. Also how can she block Amaterasu? I don’t mind her healing but, she’s not gonna be reviving Mei with a Susano’o arrow through her chest.
Hey bro so I was just listening to what I dragged by Schwab D and it gave me a great idea, a vid idea for you ; can shikamaru plus his father take down or even slow down for somebody else that's not too broken like Naruto, maybe ino plus choji and choza, take down escanor from the 7 deadly sins!? ❤❤ If you don't like my idea please let me know so I can recommend it to another RUclipsr. I came up with it because you know both sides strive from the Sun to use their jitsu versus to have their powers
Won't write an essay but i think ems sasuke (kabuto fight) would get clapped however ems sasuke (late juubito fight) do have a genuine shot at soloing all 5 kage.
Sasuke can incinerate Onoki's old ass, who only aimed after he got downed. He had no interest fighting the Kages aside Danzo, until Zetsu snitched him out. Sasuke is essentially Madara 3.0 with actual hax.
Not that I disagree with your statement about sasukes MS abilities, but kaguya removed Sasuke first from the ice dimension because it was easier for her to grab Sasuke from behind and teleport him because he didn’t have the same danger sense/perception that Naruto has when he’s in sage mode if you attack Sasuke from because his precognitive abilities from his sharingan/rinnegan don’t matter. That’s why he got removed from the fight first.
This actually isn’t the case in the lava dimension Kaguya could appear behind Naruto without him noticing all the same, it’s extremely difficult for Naruto to just sense precog someone that much stronger than him.
@@ThunderGodTGit makes sense for when it’s the first time, but we see in the ice dimension kaguya tries to grab Naruto from behind for a second time and he dodges. Zetsu also says Naruto is fast and that it was a good idea to remove Sasuke first since it was easier
This actually isn’t the case, at least the way you’re portraying it. When Sasuke actually gets grabbed in the Ice Dimension Naruto is just as unaware and susceptible to it as he was in the Lava, Zetsu just says it was smart to split them up, Zetsu saying Naruto is fast doesn’t mean Sasuke also isn’t with Naruto conceding in the literal same panel that he doesn’t know where she’ll strike from. This being cemented at the end of the fight where Kaguya herself states she doesn’t go back to the ice dimension due to Amaterasu.
Just a reminder exhaused Oonoki was able to one shoot all of this clones with legged sussanoo, yes he can spam amaterasu but A is going to be even faster, we know Gaara can just block it with a sand and its going to be faster too due to oonoki buff, tsunade not even fighting but going all out with healing, mei waiting for sussanoo and trying to melt it as fast as possible, people downgrade kages so so hard, if they fighting war arc pre spsm Naruto then they getting stomped, at that time naruto had 3 or more times chakra than Sasuke . Sorry but if he cant manifest full PS then its high diff for Hokages maybe few die
That Onoki was being massively amped by Tsunade, her Byakugou seal allows her to transfer massive amounts of chakra into someone if she chooses like Sakura did with Obito, so Onoki def can’t perform that feat regularly
I thinkt He will put amaterasu on tsunade right away and she will die, mei gets hit with an arrow and will die as well, i think this two members die in both scenarios. If its early EMS then the other 3 kage take him out, if its peak EMS then sasuke wins.
It should be a no brainer ems sasuke is able to keep up with kcm2 Naruto and track/respond to juubito💀 sasuke deadass is either outright much faster than at or slightly faster meaning he blitzes most of the kage
@@ThunderGodTG meant to put ay instead of at, in case someone comes in hete and interprets this as me saying sasuke is faster then juubito but sasuke with ems wipes the kage their performance vs madara is outplayed and overhype they were literally never a challenge for him any hits they got in were allowed😭 except gaara dragging him out susanoo that was comp
Said Sasuke surpassed Itachi's dōjutsu with the Eternal Mangekyō, in addition to genjutsu, which might suggest a superior Susanoo as well, and Itachi's easily defeated the >Sannin Eight Branches, whilst he was blind, which puts Sasuke in good standing against the Gokage indeed. Itachi did not catch Sasuke during the Inorganic Reanimation due to superior visual acuity. As explained to Kabuto later, it is because Itachi can predict his actions since he knows his objectives/targets. The Mangekyō does not seem to notably bolster kinetic vision at all, in fact, given Sasuke does not always use it in the New Era, even at full power, against Jigen and Isshiki. The name of Kaguya's piercing hair is "Rabbit Hair Senbon". It specifically aimed for Garuda's tenketsu, so it does not really do direct damage, it achieved exactly what Kaguya wanted. Feel Sasuke going airborne might just make him a target for Ōnoki, as well. I would say Tsunade might be able to just bat away Susanoo projectiles, as well. As shown in Sakura Hiden, medical-nin can physically grab ninjutsu using chakra as a grip, so she might be able to redirect them without actually forcing them away, either, in which case Ōnoki could make her weaker but increase her agility. Might also be able to literally rip off/away the Amaterasu.
The Itachi point is not mutually exclusive, Itachi predicting Kabuto’s objectives is an underlying theme throughout the whole fight before this point as well. This is the only moment in the fight where Sasuke can’t actually perceive any of Kabuto’s movements or techniques like Itachi, even if it’s minor it clearly did dictate the difference in that scene. This also would be consistent as the user would have to able to track the higher speed movements of the Susano’o like the arrow that are much faster than even Sasuke himself, so his reactions should definitely be amplified. The Raikage powers up his speed to counter Sasuke’s perception as well after Sasuke does dodge his fist slamming on the ground, so this concept isn’t new. Sasuke’s Rinnegan seems to offer a greater perception boost than his Dual EMS hence why he doesn’t use his EMS unless he’s utilizing flame control, even in Boruto although the eyes are swapped layer on. If this was the case Sasuke would have resorted back to his base Sharingan many times in the war against Madara even after the Obito fight yet doesn’t, with Madara also saying that Sasuke’s dojutsu makes his movements much more refined so it’s clearly affecting how Sasuke is perceiving and setting up counter blows like when he actually does position his blade to stab Madara and earns the praise.
@@ThunderGodTG Sasuke still has one regular Sharingan which he kept in regular three tomoe against Jigen and Isshiki suggesting it is not much of a boost. One does not really need to track their own arrows after they are fired, either. Madara brought up straight tomoe, which seems to be distinct from simply activating the Mangekyō overall.
@@Arcadia_warlic Ohnoki cannot make tsunade weaker - Her strength isn't tied to her speed like the raikage - Her strength is from perfect chakra control on top of having raw physical strength - If anything it would make her stronger
KCM1 naruto slaughters the five Kage. 5 KCM1 shadow clones would kill the five Kage. EMS Sasuke smacks KCm1 Naruto. He’s more relative to MKCM (early EMS)-KCM2 (Fatigue EMS)- Sage Mode KCM2 (Peak EMS w/ Curse Mark amp).
EMS Sasuke claps them low diff. He's as powerful as Madara but he doesn't like to play with his food like Madara does. Amaterasu + Genjutsu = ggs Plus he has a higher Battle IQ than Madara and the rest of the Kage, they are _not_ outsmarting him at all.
"He's as powerful as madara" No ? He isn't ? Ems sasuke couldn't do shit against alive blind madara during the war. Madara was prime hashirama's rival and we can see during their valley of the end battle that both hashi and madara were seriously injured and weakened at the end of it so while hashi was stronger it's actually not by THAT much unlike what many peoples believe, ems sasuke is far from ems madara and alive hashi lvl. "He has a higher battle iq" Agree to disagree too, sasuke was like 16~17 during the war while madara did pretty much grow up on the battlefield and over 100 y.o, add to this the fact that madara was the uchiha clan leader back in the day when war was his average tuesday and both being indra's reincarnation. How does sasuke has more battle iq than him, i smell some bullshit here.
Sasuke doesn't match up well against the 5 kage. He's definitely strong enough but his toolkit is not great. That said like he could easily kill mai with raition... aye is getting smoked. Onoki is a glass cannon.
Peak ems sasuke is way way below ems madara and way below kcm2 naruto. Just compare madara at 12 vs sasuke at 12 yrs old😂.Madara at 12 was killing jonin senju without his sharingan while sasuke with 3 tomor sharingan and a cm boost would struggle to beat a regular jonin😂
Oh word? How strong is Madara at 17? What stage Susano’o does he have? How strong is MS Izuna at who he’s said to be on par with? And what about this makes him able to fight someone stronger than a stronger version of Hashirama then the one he lost to as an adult.
he will get oblitirated what is this bullshi , theres no way i believe he can defeat the kages combined without rinnegan no mater the menta amp crap or whatever
@@nirjhar4803 i dont see there was really any difference in power that was conclusive to say he went more power personally before getting rinnegan and its a joke saying him he was madara level when madara just shit stabbed him like he was nothing its just people creating fanboy on the popular boys at this point ,all he has going for him is amataresu and team backup and its been shown they have quite the capability to overcome it in many ways and if he gets karin or zugo in battle i guess others will get their subordinates too, to say just an ems makes a character comparable to whole 5 kage just feels like bullshit this premise shouldnt even be in the main story even for madara this feels like a joke
We spamming amaterasu with this one🗣️
Fireball into meis mist, then kirin
@@dean9261Kirin is B rank.
We spamming generic comments with this one 🤦🏽♂️
@@nocturne311Who told you that, Kirin is S rank in the data books 😂
@@W4keAEA comment criticizing another comment is the most generic of generic comments just saying
Open the Susanoo, Sasuke.
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Ah.
Best comic panel.
Danzo can shatter susanno ribcage with sheer pure windstyle and tsunade can break susano bones and use it against em. And gaara easily grabs sasuke from his foot away from his susanoo. Ems is done.
How is gaara grabbing him when his susanoo has legs.@@bandai7602
5 Kage
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This is the most praise ive ever heard Mei being given, is the respecting Mei arc beginning?
gonna get Mei and chojuro vs Akatsuki 😂(loki would be interesting tbf)
It's surprising a underrated gorgeous fair lady like Mei Terumi whose considered average tier now in the Naruto verse would technically have the attack potency and durability nessesary to solo verses like Jujutsu Kaisen killing somebody like Sukuna pretty easily.
I bet she would do pretty well up against Akame Ga Kill as well. Probably having more difficulty against Shikoutazer due to it's 500 meter size though.
@@spicyboi544 Mei comes off as a little underwhelming compared to the Kage, but she is every bit a peer of them. Her acid melts Madara and Sasuke’s Susanoo, she can track when combo her jutsu with the Raikage’s speed, and she can take hits from the Susanoo.
How people used to think she’s “hidan level” is crazy
@@hobbyhorse5848 she has two kekkai genkai and hidan has a pointy stick. it is not a comparison
Mei is way more powerful than we give her credit for, to be honest.
Swagkage significantly added to the Mei downplay by making his Mei vs Zabuza video
Amaterasu has the Avada Kadavra treatment. It's so powerful that it can never ever work on anyone important because that's literally game over, so all it ever does is absolutely cook (heh) fodder characters or non-fodder who have specific outs. That in turn makes Amaterasu look weaker than it is.
@Necromancer4267 Amaterasu isn't as strong as you make it out to be - Jigen/Kaguya tanked it and simply absorbed it. Naruto made a chakra shroud and then shedded his chakra to remove it. Juubi simply removed the affected area from an enhanced version. Katsuyu can do the same like the juubi, just remove the affected area. It has only seriously affected fodder characters.
@@OkairMcLaren "It's so powerful that it can never ever work on anyone important because that's literally game over, so all it ever does is absolutely cook (heh) fodder characters or non-fodder who have specific outs. That in turn makes Amaterasu look weaker than it is."
Thanks for proving my point.
@@OkairMcLarendamn bro did you read the comment 😂
@@OkairMcLaren Bro might lack a bit of reading comprehension💀...
@Necromancer4267 I did read your comment - You saying it's game over if it hits is what I'm debating. Yes, we both admitted it only works on fodder lol.
Great to see the EMS Sasuke love always. I think it’s always a debate with the Gokage and fighters who are just below or at that initial KCM2 tier like you mentioned at the start of the vid. This is very much early EMS. I think that middle tier where Mastered KCM and that EMS (who’s much stronger) that are in that Hokage Minato, Tobirama levels of power I think can defeat the Gokage but yea peak EMS bullies them
Also, I am of the opinion that the majestic attire is the perfect susano’o. There shouldn’t be a difference in susano’o versions as Madara declares that susano’o the perfect susano’o but it’s just that the chakra has (in Onoki’s words) “settled down” which I think just means the avatar has stabilized. So it would just mean the majestic attire is that same susano’o but the chakra has stabilized around the kyuubi or kyuubi avatar. To me, there shouldn’t be a difference in terms of one form is higher but they’re the same form just ones chakra is fully stable. Sasuke does the same stabilizing of chakra before going around the Kurama avatar which also leads to my second point:
EMS Sasuke’s susano’o that progressed to the majestic attire/perfect stage would have to be equal if not superior to Naruto’s sage Kurama avatar only simply because Minato’s kyuubi chakra was also amping that Naruto’s avatar to the point Minato was back in base until the tug of war with Juubito. Obviously the majestic attire they are both equally pulling their weight but if they were separate entities Sasuke’s avatar would be slightly stronger in my opinion. I’m of the opinion that they are just blatant equals and similar to a final valley Hashirama and Madara scenario where it’s paper thin. It would make sense since they both get the same level of six paths amps but Sasuke has to get used to new abilities & eye whereas Naruto’s new abilities are ones where he can instantly use with full understanding via six paths sage mode, truth seeker orbs and the Bijuu helping him out
I think I’m more partial to the idea that the True Form isn’t that far off in strength from the PS, since Naruto & Sasuke both get similar power ups and their respective avatars are still close in strength. I just personally don’t give him the P.S since the Rinnegan acts as almost a cheat code for unlocking eye abilities. It’s really micro stuff but, I do think the True Form is a bit more consistent, with the P.S just not being that fair off in terms of strength.
You can also argue due to the nature of the True Form and how its chakra has to stabilize the P.S may actually not be able to wrap around the Kyuubi Avatar like the True Form as when Sasuke does it later on the form is very different.
This video and your “How Strong Is EMS Sasuke” videos are great. No one gives Sasuke enough credit for how strong he becomes throughout the War Arc. Mastery with the EMS and Rinnegan takes a lot more experience than obtaining the Nine Tails Chakra
What if sasuke was betrayed and trapped in the hyperbolic time chamber
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Hebi sasuke stomps
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I love EMS Sasuke content.🙌🏼
Yet another interesting video on something not talked about, nice vid TG🔥
Oh now we are cooking! 🔥 always wanted this matchup.
I’m gonna forgive your stream transgressions for now
@@ThunderGodTGwhat he do 😭
He disrespected me with a skunk butt rug
great vid TG should we be expecting that sasori analysis this week
This is genuinely a good video.
Gonna be a banger from the GOAT🐐
It's wild how Gaara went from a normal Chidori puncturing him to being able to block Amaterasu. I wonder if Chidori spears and the different other variants Sasuke made in Part 2 could break through it.
Good question, now I want to know too!
@@AurasFeel Probably not at all.
At the summit he barely pierced the Raikage’s lightning cloak. The Raikage at max power failed to break through Gaara’s sand and neither did Amaterasu which itself burned through the Raikage’s cloak.
The Gaara who fought Kimimaro probs would’ve been able to casually block that same chidori, so he outscaled it pretty soon.
Yeah chidori is it's weakness. His sand has always been durable to fire. Sasuke focusing it especially like through Susanoo negs his sand.
Amaterasu deals different type of damage compared to a piercing thrust attack like chidori. Sand is naturally strong against fire obviously unless sasuke uses honnoikazuchi and turns them into spikes like he did to break kaguya's ice. Chidori should still pierce him
Tsunade un ironically performs worse against sasuke than madara
What makes you say that? Amatarasu?
@@___________0Z0X Sasuke probably wouldn't toy with them.
@@JophesCT true
@@___________0Z0X yep+flame control
@@shisaroid Tunade can over Ametarasu with the help of her slug
It's 10:45 PM so I will probably watch this tomorrow and I will leave this comment here just in case
i think he had the PS, that Pentagon on the head is a characteristic of a PS
The only way I see EMS Sasuke losing is if he gets caught by the sealing jutsu they used on Madara.....or at least his clone LOL Other than that, Sasuke is way faster, stronger, versatile, and has feats that put him way above the Five Kage like reacting to Six Path Obito's attack before Naruto and MInato could. Tanking an alive Madara's Burning Ash jutsu with no damage or Susano and also got praised by Madara for his swift movements. Susano with legs and shield laced with Amaterasu, Blaze Release to control the flames and spread it out however he wants, basically controlling the playing field. Susano arrows are fast/strong enough to kill all of them except maybe Raikage or Tsuchikage who can get away but then Sasuke came up from behind and pretty much snuck up and butt-fucked their game up by stabbing them with Susano swords and let their blood drip in a teacup. Basically, I don't see them winning at all, EMS Sasuke is a beast!
Early EMS is the only version they have a chance against.
@@___________0Z0X Agreed, and even then, Sasuke spun around and managed to throw up a wall of Amaterasu faster than Sage Kabuto charging at him.
Don't forget genjutsu
Sasuke ms genjutsu was so strong that it left a genjutsu-type ninja out of combat even after being awakened and in Naruto Jinraiden Sasuke ms showed a tsukuyomi level genjutsu.
Another feat from one of Sasuke's manga was when he took on a regiment of 1000 shinobi and defeat them in a few hours and earned the title of swordmaster because of it. Far surpassing the skills of individuals who supposedly deafeted 1000 shinobi over their lifetime. He also has his variety of chidori, which amp his speed durability and offensive ability, including using Kirin, which does have a prerequisite of creating a thundercloud above. Another example is his chidori senbon which can summon 1000s of little beams and blade of lightning to cut around him. As well as his amaterasu infused chidori. We also have the kagatsuchi amaterasu armor combo on top of his susanoo and amaterasu does cancel out regeneration but most opponents can get rid of it by throwing away a piece of cloth or chakra cloak. So I'd say if Sasuke were to stop mitotic regeneration with amaterasu he'd have to aim it at an extremely vital area which he wouldn't be beyond doing. Plus Sasuke did pretty well, not perfectly, but well enough at the 5 kage summit that I assume at EMS level instead of his MS blind level he'd have a significant amp to the point he'd be no slouch anymore.
Great video bro! 🙏 this was def an interesting one
Everyone: Demostratively
TG: deMONSTERivly
😂😂😂 this is crazy
Oh here's another good idea I have for a suggestion. The Shinobi Alliance versus the Monster Association from One Punch Man.
Oh this is gonna be good. I think there is going to be alot of casualties statistically for the Shinobi Alliance's 80,000 Ninja army for each member of the Monster Association they will battle. Especially against the Dragon Tiers.
Early Ems Sasuke will have some problems but i think he will still won given that he still has his Ms powers its just that Ems is a buff.
This makes me want ems sasuke vs nagato and Itachi
hes relative to just itachi. adding nagato is so one sided, thats not even a remotely fair fight
@@AidenB1010you do know Sasuke consistently grows in the war. He goes from KCM 1.5 level to fighting alongside KCm2 sage mode level.
@@jiero3253he was being boosted by jugo and even then he wasn’t equal to kyubi sage Naruto.
@@AidenB1010uhh ems sasuke from the war lays itachi out homeslice
@@stephenking2895 Once jugo left and he supposedly unlocked the perfect susanno. Naruto and jugo notices that Sasuke is directly matching the power of the kuubi avatar with his susanno. I'm not saying he'd beat Naruto but to say their not relative is disingenuous.
That's on top of jugo's CM only really giving Sasuke access to Nature energy. It wouldn't amp him that much if at all, especially in comparison to Naruto stacking sage mode
Always a great day when tg posts
Now, I feel you need to do KCM Naruto vs the 5 kage. Because I feel like this goes completely different. I'm 20 mins in and I agree with everything so far. But it made me curious to just see Naruto vs them. I feel that's a completely different story
Hey TG could you make a EMS Sasuke vs KCM Minato video?
I think this is an interesting battle with a lot of battle IQ and hax involved.
Day 1 of asking TG to do a sasori vs kakazu who would win.
Ik this might seem kinda obvious who would win but when you think about it I think the fight is more closer than ppl think
W vid 🔥
Thunder Bark dropping another banger! Woof God always in the kitchen, cooking
You will tell me why you make the dog puns now.
Read the previous sentence in a hypnotic voice so you get hypnotized please.
@@___________0Z0Xfrom a stream. All ima say.
I think a much more fair fight would be peak MS sasuke vs the 5 kage. Only because sasuke isn’t madara so he’s not going to play around with the 5 kage. He’d likely just pull out the perfect susano very early and stomp them all. The 5 kage have shown that they’re powerless against a perfect susano.
In conclusion Ems sasuke wins negative diff.
Peak MS sasuke is a lot more fair and interesting.
Neither EMS and MS Sasuke has Perfect Susanoo though 😅
Plus, MS isn't really beating the 5 Kage. He almost died last time when he stormed the Summit.
@@taecampus Ems sasuke wrapped the perfect susano around Naruto’s Kcm avatar. It’s the exact same armor as the complete susano and this armor is stated to be exclusive to the perfect susano.
A weaker version of MS sasuke nearly killed full power ay 1v1 if not for gaaras interference. Ay is easily one of the strongest of the 5 kage which would at least put this version of sasuke above Mei and gaara. So a hypothetical healthy peak MS sasuke would definitely give the 5 kage a tough fight.
@@reignjudgment1028 then why wasn't Sasuke using it when fighting Obito? 😂
Come on. At most, Sasuke was probably on par with Itachi.
@@musamanhique6601 because he literally couldn't do it 🤣
He was using his version, with legs added to make it more mobile. At most, he was on par with Itachi's. Where it has that cloak over it.
There was plenty of time, especially against the Ten Tails, or against Juubito, where a he could've used it.
@@taecampus because he wasn’t trying to for whatever reason. But there’s no denying that he wrapped the perfect susano around Kurama. So this isn’t even up for debate. Ems sasuke had perfect susano cope.
Ive always felt like Sasuke was a lot stronger than Itachi when they fought Kabuto. Sasuke was crushed internally and emotionally while Itachi had stern resolve. Itachi will forever have his win conditions in the absurd MS abilities he has in Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and his special totsuka/yata combo.
The difference in the kabuto fight was Itachis IQ. It lets him fight considerably above his weight class. Hax and IQ are a nutty combo. Itachi also used a sacrificial forbidden jutsu he likely wouldve never used if he was still alive given the cost.
Thats also why I think the later Uchiha abilities were heavily nerfed by plot.
Just my take. Great video
It should still be the perfect susanoo because the tengu nose is only a characteristic feature of the perfect susanoo, nothing lower.
The only requirement in the databook is to master the mangekyo which sasuke has definitely done when he has the ems.
The True Form that covers the Kyuubi vs Hashirama has the Tengu Nose as well Sasuke would have eventually reached it but, he’s def 1 form short
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Are you talking about chapter 620 and 621? The nose doesn't appear until 621 and in a complete straight form only when madara closes the nine tails mouth with susanoo.
So madara just upgraded to perfect susanoo armour later on
The very last image we see of the Susano’o is the true form as that’s what Madara used to block the explosion, we never see him power it up further so it’s baseless to make that claim, he also would have just led with it if that’s the case considering Hashirama has fought it, for all we know the P.S may actually not be able to wrap around the Kyuubi. It’s not impossible to say Sasuke has the P.S but, it’s way more consistent that he has the True Form as he’s not listed as a user of the P.S and it really doesn’t make sense that he’d jump 2 Susano’o forms after just getting the legged.
I still think peak ems sasuke does have the perfect susanoo the armor the shoulder pads and the nose all look identical to the perfect susanoo and there is a statement that the armor of the perfect susanoo is unique and can’t be accessed by any of the lower forms plus I think it would make sense for him to have it because madara had it when he had the ems and sasuke has the ems too so I personally think peak ems sasuke has the perfect susanoo
@@Robbieuchiha the kyuubi is what makes their susanoo manifest perfect susanoo’s features
Sasuke's fight IQ and spamable MS abilities give him the win. Once he takes the first one out their chances of winning drop significantly.
It is pretty impressive Thundergod how even a low rank character like the gorgeous Lady Mei Terumi (who Kishimoto should have respected more then what he did to her in Boruto) would be considered the highest powerhouse in a world like Bingou Stray Dogs and Jujutsu Kaisen.
Probably one shotting people like Sukuna and Francis Scott with low difficulty.
I wonder how long Esdeath and Third Form Tatsumi from Akame Ga Kill and Kaiju No. 8 would last against the Akatsuki and Five Kages.
Kaiju No. 8 is objecticely alot more durable and powerful then Esdeath and Tatsumi are since can tank and deliever attacks ranging in the low gigatons so he's probably going out last those two in a fight against the Kages.
nah sukuna would win
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If he's fast enough with his slashes which case his combat speed is not relativistic and most of the time he's been aim dodging attacks. And his dimension slash could only be used once in a sneak attack against Gojo when he had his guard down and was directly infront once and it cost him a binding vow in the process that significantly reduce his capacity to slash at his opponents. And keep in mind he's been getting more and more wounded as time progressed against these scaling wise town level characters who are not outputting megaton tier attacks against him. Mei Terumi should be able to manage it.
In the fight against the Kage, Sasuke, as always, will have plot armour. Madara against the Kage is a plot-breaker machine
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Katsuyu wasn't included during the madara fight cuz of plot because Madara can't hurt Katsuyu - Katsuyu still not being utilized here again despite her being so broken and versatile. For amaterasu, Katsuyu can make a body armour around all the kage and simply remove the affected area from herself thus nullifying the technique and lessening the need to regrow limbs etc. She will provide perfect resistance to genjutsu as Katsuyu clones and Tsunade are all telepathically linked to each other and can easily break each other out of genjutsu. Her physical make up will provide a durabilty amp basically making all types of physical blunt force attacks useless. Katsuyu is basically fireproof so firestyle won't hurt her. She will provide nature sensing, shared vision, healing, armour and instant communication across all kages. Her acid can also be used in conjunction with the kage's abilities - Her acid will affect susanoo as its sage energy - If anyone gets a limb removed or gets cut in half, katsuyu can easily reattach them via sticking her sections back together and healing the damage of the affected person. Katsuyu is so underutilized its stupid. Since sasuke is alive, medical ninjutsu will screw him up.
The 5 kage vs madara fight was rushed and not properly done. Tsunade was never amped by ohnoki and katsuyu was never present on the battlefield. Tsunade can also amp her attacks like she did with ohnoki to focus it into a single point which should be enough to start cracking the perfect susanoo.
You ate that.
I always tell people that Tsunade isn’t weak she is just written to fight poorly for some reason.
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 Right! They downplay her and Katsuyu soo much!
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why can't sasuke just blitz them with regular chidori like he did against raikage in weaker ms? all of them slower than raikage and he got tagged by ms sasuke chidori
That was a lower version of the Raikage’s cloak and Sasuke still wasn’t massively above, they actually were close in speed Sasuke just utilized his Sharingan to weave out of the Raikage’s elbow. It’s neigh impossible to just say his chidori is just that fast at this point.
@@ThunderGodTG but that's lower version of Sasuke also. Sasuke could react to v2 & use amaterasu before raikage attacked. & none of the kages are on raikage's reaction speed so why couldn't ems sasuke blitz mei or tsunade with chidori for eg?
Sasuke's Chidori Speed isn't quantifiably that high at least arguing for Early EMS. Sasuke also reacts to V2 Raikage with his MS + Susano'o which are perception & speed above his Chidori amp which caps out higher than his regular sharingan not his MS. It's also not really necessary to make that leap when Sasuke's Susano'o is more provably capable of this feat.
Oonoki buff…Sasuke will be the one in deffense, getting speed blitzed by Raikage and he cant fight a single second without sussanoo activated due to particle style. His chakra is not infinite and no he doesnt have PS before rinnegan, majestic attire is somethig betwween V4 and PS
1:24 we don't know this since Sasuke wasn't the target, he likely expected Itachi to fend for himself. Even Itachi admits he made a mistake.
Thank you for being one of the only people I've ever heard know that Gudodamas and Onmyoudon are not the same thing, and aren't inherently together either. That the user has to actively apply it to their Gudodamas.
It’s so weird how people don’t pick on that, like how Obito can apply Bakuton to the TSO Orbs or have the Heal Him at least in the anime.
you definitely made that up 😂
almost had me aha
@@nwk1626 What...?
Ahoy there Thundergod. What do you think it would be like if either Garou or Ulquiorra Cifer were in the Naruto verse?
How would they each individually fair against the Naruto cast and varies groups at the same time?
No Cosmic Fear Garou though, Garou is way too powerful in that state. Just him through his regular forms as his adaption and anti durability attacks would be skills that would give him a big advantage. When he enters Monster Form is when Naruto should go all out or it becomes both a fight of attrition and escalation.
Ulquiorra Cifer should do pretty well with Minato and Hashirama tiers in his base form since he's used to characters who can move faster then light and he himself has broken out of subspace prisons by use of his reiatsu and spiritual pressure so I think can handle them himself very well. His two Resurreccions forms and regeneration of limbs should be a great asset in the long run. I wonder how many characters he could take out with his Lanza Del Relampago and Cero attacks.
W vid man.
I agree 100%, early EMS is probably gonna lose.
This is pretty consistent, especially because he’s still pretty relative to Itachi putting him around that Pain/Nagito level by extension. And I see Itachi and Pain losing against the 5 kage in a 1v5 because of teamwork.
There is no way Pain is losing against the five kages.
@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc they got some pretty crazy combos in the war arc.
That’s what makes this a dicey fight for either pain or Itachi. It’s not impossible for them to win, but it is definitely a high dif fight.
@@___________0Z0X Itachi won't survive. He could bare defeat 3 of them. But Pain will win. His summons along will keep them busy and then he can take care of each on 1 vs 1
@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc that’s his best bet, but Onoki is a counter to the summons with particle style.
Also, they would have Intel on Payne.
Itachi might be able to win through careful use of the MS and his Susano, but facing multiple opponents is not good for him.
@@___________0Z0X Careful use of Ms and Susano won't help him here. The kages are not dumb. Also Each of them is a power house that can fight for hours. Together He doesn't stand a chance. Enoki will attack from the air, Gaara from the ground 'A' will attack from behind, Tunade from the front and Mei would start the attack with an acid release. There is nothing he can do. Pain on the other hand at least can summon Gedo Statue or just use Shinra tensei
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Amaterasu is the only saving grace here. If it’s a real life battle, I would spam that and probably walk away with the win. In Naruto rules he’s just not taking out all the Kage with that ability, and we already saw collectively how many Susano they brought down. The mist obscures his vision, and they will resort to it immediately. The mizukage covered the entire battlefield with it. Sasuke doesn’t have a fire power, nor the wood style combo to dissipate it in one go. Gaara already counters Amaterasu, Sasuke even praised him for it. And no, he wasn’t praising him for blocking some less lethal form of the jutsu . He knows his defense. If it was a simple projectile, Sasuke wouldn’t give him props.
Not that it makes too much sense since she's the medic, but bruh, if Onoki used lightened boulder jutsu on Tsunade instead of Ay, boyyyy the kage might have cleaned up!
Bro see's the vision
love the push of the p.s not being whats used on the majestic attire
Yeah this has to be TG. Aint no way ThunderGod talking so much Raikage smack *i mean I agree but damn*
7:18 where did this animation come from I’ve never seen it and I NEEEEED IT
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Raikage being the most useless is a absolute W take , people overhype him the most
It’s actually insane how dudes glaze bro
It is a unfortunate pity. The Raikage is hyped up as the 2nd strongest next to Tsunade but contributing that factor with being faster then her yet the impact of his power and strength leaves much to be desired for in results.
The raikage is very much the quicksilver of his verse imo. A speedster who not even that quick all things considered. @@thorshammer7883
wrong mei is the most useless
Wow, NARUTO ULTIMATE NINJA IMPACT THE PSP GAME is so underrated.. seeing it here feels nostalgic
Hey Thunder god can you make a video about Kakashi vs Kabuto (Time skip)
Rip Kabuto
0:11 oh. i'm disappointed. i thought this was gonna be like a, "EMS Sasuke vs 5 Kage" in the sense of, well, ya know. right? "What If Sasuke had the EMS in time for the 5 Kage Summit?" so, what difference would the EMS had made during that gauntlet
He sweeps pretty easily
@@ThunderGodTG it's looking like a SASUKE CLEAN SWEEP!!! MANGEKYO PILL!!! 🥥🥥🥥🥥🥥
Maaaaan! Please! Jinton finishes amatarasu and susanoo is just a BIG target for particle style. lol like yo … the sasuke over hype is different !
TG the dawg
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Thought I saw MS sasuke for a second
Then I started adjusting my schedule for a funeral
Hey man I think I have a pretty cool video Idea. Dunno If u like western cartoons but if u do how about vids like Finn and Jake vs the chunin exams or Rick and Morty vs the Akatsuki or even Zim vs the Sound four.
Mixing western and eastern cartoons in vs battles could be rly fun I think.
Finn and Jake is actually such a cool topic I’m gonna write that down
@@ThunderGodTG Awesome gonna wait for that one.
@@ThunderGodTG I just think there is so much missed potential in always seperating Anime and Cartoons. I think u could rly draw in a new audience with that. Also have u ever considered doing more character/narrative analysis?
I always love when u do this in ur vids and imo ur rly good at it.
I know ur views dip when u don't focus on Naruto scaling but sometimes u need to take risks to succeed.
I'm only saying this cause I think ur such a pasionate guy and I fear u burning out when limiting urself to a narrow type of content.
Just wish u the best my man!
Can you do Red hair Nagato next?
hold this like comment and run time blitz fam
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Wait why is Mei so useful here?? I know people always downplay Mei but I didn't realize how useful she is. Her hidden mist ninjutsu, boil release and water to counter all of Sasuke's fire style.
She is truly just that girl. Big and Bad.
Also someone said this already but you should include Katsuyu more. She can counter everything Sasuke can do i.e
1) Heal the cage if they get hurt
2) Break them out of genjutsu
3)Blocking amaterasu and removing pieces of herself etc.
Also can't Mei use boil release and have everyone else fly up with Gaara and Ohnoki?
Katsuyu is succeptable to Genjutsu off rip so she's not that useful, especially if it's Sasuke and / or Madara in this case.
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Even if she splits up?
And that’s what I’m talking about. If she spreads to every Kage(which we’ve seen Tsunade do) and she gets put under genjutsu they can break her out or vice versa if the Kage fall to genjutsu.
You see how brilliant the plan is?
Honestly that’s if she gets the chance to, Madara also didn’t bother with Genjutsu in the fight since the Kage could break each other out regardless. So it’s not a make it or break it boy in the fight.
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Madara did bother with genjutsu against Ay remember. And that’s just genjutsu. She can also heal them, block Amaterasu ( for the slow ones), share info etc.
I feel like you grossly understated her usefulness.
That was a Madara wood Clone, Madara was playing with the Kage and wanted to break their will entirely. It’s a complete afterthought for him especially when he has options like forest Bloom that completely stun and knock out the Kage much better. Madara would also have to revert back to his Sharingan to use it which could open up a Particle Style against him.
Also how can she block Amaterasu? I don’t mind her healing but, she’s not gonna be reviving Mei with a Susano’o arrow through her chest.
Hey bro so I was just listening to what I dragged by Schwab D and it gave me a great idea, a vid idea for you ; can shikamaru plus his father take down or even slow down for somebody else that's not too broken like Naruto, maybe ino plus choji and choza, take down escanor from the 7 deadly sins!? ❤❤ If you don't like my idea please let me know so I can recommend it to another RUclipsr. I came up with it because you know both sides strive from the Sun to use their jitsu versus to have their powers
*what a drag by shwabadi
Won't write an essay but i think ems sasuke (kabuto fight) would get clapped however ems sasuke (late juubito fight) do have a genuine shot at soloing all 5 kage.
Better Avatar, better stats, Papa Johns. It's in the game.
Sasuke can incinerate Onoki's old ass, who only aimed after he got downed. He had no interest fighting the Kages aside Danzo, until Zetsu snitched him out. Sasuke is essentially Madara 3.0 with actual hax.
25:43 PAUUUSEEEE lol
Not that I disagree with your statement about sasukes MS abilities, but kaguya removed Sasuke first from the ice dimension because it was easier for her to grab Sasuke from behind and teleport him because he didn’t have the same danger sense/perception that Naruto has when he’s in sage mode if you attack Sasuke from because his precognitive abilities from his sharingan/rinnegan don’t matter. That’s why he got removed from the fight first.
This actually isn’t the case in the lava dimension Kaguya could appear behind Naruto without him noticing all the same, it’s extremely difficult for Naruto to just sense precog someone that much stronger than him.
@@ThunderGodTGit makes sense for when it’s the first time, but we see in the ice dimension kaguya tries to grab Naruto from behind for a second time and he dodges. Zetsu also says Naruto is fast and that it was a good idea to remove Sasuke first since it was easier
This actually isn’t the case, at least the way you’re portraying it. When Sasuke actually gets grabbed in the Ice Dimension Naruto is just as unaware and susceptible to it as he was in the Lava, Zetsu just says it was smart to split them up, Zetsu saying Naruto is fast doesn’t mean Sasuke also isn’t with Naruto conceding in the literal same panel that he doesn’t know where she’ll strike from. This being cemented at the end of the fight where Kaguya herself states she doesn’t go back to the ice dimension due to Amaterasu.
Hey Thundergod do how strong is mei
Mei might barely be kage level on her own, but you gotta admit her support is cracked.
Only 72 views at 7 min meaning he got 10.2 views per min... Bro fell off hard💀💀
You drink lettuce
@@ThunderGodTGhey man , I like lettuce, lettuce be friends 😅
@@ThunderGodTG TF does that mean
@@ThunderGodTG personally, I prefer cucumbers.
Ems sauce guy vs edo naruto (red version)
If we’re talking about 5k age summit Tsunade wasn’t even there at the time so she wouldn’t be in the fight
Team Hebi vs Five kage summit
Hebi dies hard.
I wonder how well the Kage would fair against the Monster Association from One Punch Man.
Just a reminder exhaused Oonoki was able to one shoot all of this clones with legged sussanoo, yes he can spam amaterasu but A is going to be even faster, we know Gaara can just block it with a sand and its going to be faster too due to oonoki buff, tsunade not even fighting but going all out with healing, mei waiting for sussanoo and trying to melt it as fast as possible, people downgrade kages so so hard, if they fighting war arc pre spsm Naruto then they getting stomped, at that time naruto had 3 or more times chakra than Sasuke . Sorry but if he cant manifest full PS then its high diff for Hokages maybe few die
That Onoki was being massively amped by Tsunade, her Byakugou seal allows her to transfer massive amounts of chakra into someone if she chooses like Sakura did with Obito, so Onoki def can’t perform that feat regularly
Tsunade is the only win con I see and it's a trade at best the others are too slow or have no bulk to push through and take him out.
I thinkt He will put amaterasu on tsunade right away and she will die, mei gets hit with an arrow and will die as well, i think this two members die in both scenarios. If its early EMS then the other 3 kage take him out, if its peak EMS then sasuke wins.
They each took turns whipping that boy. I dont think extending his battery life is going to make a difference.
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It should be a no brainer ems sasuke is able to keep up with kcm2 Naruto and track/respond to juubito💀 sasuke deadass is either outright much faster than at or slightly faster meaning he blitzes most of the kage
You would actually be surprised how people just don’t give him that for some reason
@@ThunderGodTG meant to put ay instead of at, in case someone comes in hete and interprets this as me saying sasuke is faster then juubito but sasuke with ems wipes the kage their performance vs madara is outplayed and overhype they were literally never a challenge for him any hits they got in were allowed😭 except gaara dragging him out susanoo that was comp
Said Sasuke surpassed Itachi's dōjutsu with the Eternal Mangekyō, in addition to genjutsu, which might suggest a superior Susanoo as well, and Itachi's easily defeated the >Sannin Eight Branches, whilst he was blind, which puts Sasuke in good standing against the Gokage indeed.
Itachi did not catch Sasuke during the Inorganic Reanimation due to superior visual acuity. As explained to Kabuto later, it is because Itachi can predict his actions since he knows his objectives/targets. The Mangekyō does not seem to notably bolster kinetic vision at all, in fact, given Sasuke does not always use it in the New Era, even at full power, against Jigen and Isshiki.
The name of Kaguya's piercing hair is "Rabbit Hair Senbon". It specifically aimed for Garuda's tenketsu, so it does not really do direct damage, it achieved exactly what Kaguya wanted. Feel Sasuke going airborne might just make him a target for Ōnoki, as well.
I would say Tsunade might be able to just bat away Susanoo projectiles, as well. As shown in Sakura Hiden, medical-nin can physically grab ninjutsu using chakra as a grip, so she might be able to redirect them without actually forcing them away, either, in which case Ōnoki could make her weaker but increase her agility. Might also be able to literally rip off/away the Amaterasu.
The Itachi point is not mutually exclusive, Itachi predicting Kabuto’s objectives is an underlying theme throughout the whole fight before this point as well. This is the only moment in the fight where Sasuke can’t actually perceive any of Kabuto’s movements or techniques like Itachi, even if it’s minor it clearly did dictate the difference in that scene. This also would be consistent as the user would have to able to track the higher speed movements of the Susano’o like the arrow that are much faster than even Sasuke himself, so his reactions should definitely be amplified.
The Raikage powers up his speed to counter Sasuke’s perception as well after Sasuke does dodge his fist slamming on the ground, so this concept isn’t new.
Sasuke’s Rinnegan seems to offer a greater perception boost than his Dual EMS hence why he doesn’t use his EMS unless he’s utilizing flame control, even in Boruto although the eyes are swapped layer on. If this was the case Sasuke would have resorted back to his base Sharingan many times in the war against Madara even after the Obito fight yet doesn’t, with Madara also saying that Sasuke’s dojutsu makes his movements much more refined so it’s clearly affecting how Sasuke is perceiving and setting up counter blows like when he actually does position his blade to stab Madara and earns the praise.
@@ThunderGodTG Sasuke still has one regular Sharingan which he kept in regular three tomoe against Jigen and Isshiki suggesting it is not much of a boost. One does not really need to track their own arrows after they are fired, either.
Madara brought up straight tomoe, which seems to be distinct from simply activating the Mangekyō overall.
@@Arcadia_warlic Ohnoki cannot make tsunade weaker - Her strength isn't tied to her speed like the raikage - Her strength is from perfect chakra control on top of having raw physical strength - If anything it would make her stronger
@@OkairMcLaren Tsunade is suggested to use both, so making her lighter might decrease the impact, but that is beyond my point.
A big cloud of mist>eternal mangekyo sharingan
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What’s the name of the Naruto gameplay is your video!
Naruto Ultimate Ninja Impact on psp
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The perfect susano made ninjutsu useless
lmao bro would wipe
enton arrows gg
I don’t think sasuke can predict the raikage that’s lightened by a especially of madara couldnt
KCM1 naruto slaughters the five Kage. 5 KCM1 shadow clones would kill the five Kage. EMS Sasuke smacks KCm1 Naruto. He’s more relative to MKCM (early EMS)-KCM2 (Fatigue EMS)- Sage Mode KCM2 (Peak EMS w/ Curse Mark amp).
EMS Sasuke claps them low diff. He's as powerful as Madara but he doesn't like to play with his food like Madara does. Amaterasu + Genjutsu = ggs
Plus he has a higher Battle IQ than Madara and the rest of the Kage, they are _not_ outsmarting him at all.
"He's as powerful as madara"
No ? He isn't ? Ems sasuke couldn't do shit against alive blind madara during the war.
Madara was prime hashirama's rival and we can see during their valley of the end battle that both hashi and madara were seriously injured and weakened at the end of it so while hashi was stronger it's actually not by THAT much unlike what many peoples believe, ems sasuke is far from ems madara and alive hashi lvl.
"He has a higher battle iq"
Agree to disagree too, sasuke was like 16~17 during the war while madara did pretty much grow up on the battlefield and over 100 y.o, add to this the fact that madara was the uchiha clan leader back in the day when war was his average tuesday and both being indra's reincarnation.
How does sasuke has more battle iq than him, i smell some bullshit here.
Who would win, EMS Sasuke vs Sage Kabuto
Kabuto≈>edo Itachi>ems sasuke
@@user-qq8dw5ro7m stupid? Ems sasuke >> Kabuto >> Itachi.
@@thesagerinnegan5898 Саске мешал Итачи в бою из-за низкой реакции и низкой скорости, он был мусором
With six paths sure, before that? NO
Can they match sasukes freak tho
5v1 sasuke has like 0 chanse :d mei just need 1 fog jutsu and its game over
Zetsu x Óbito shipping 25:43
Sasuke doesn't match up well against the 5 kage. He's definitely strong enough but his toolkit is not great. That said like he could easily kill mai with raition... aye is getting smoked. Onoki is a glass cannon.
Peak ems sasuke is way way below ems madara and way below kcm2 naruto.
Just compare madara at 12 vs sasuke at 12 yrs old😂.Madara at 12 was killing jonin senju without his sharingan while sasuke with 3 tomor sharingan and a cm boost would struggle to beat a regular jonin😂
You think 17 Year Old Madara can fight Ten Tails Obito? Cause that’s literally the logic presented
@@ThunderGodTG yes he could and would be doing better than ems sasuke
@@ThunderGodTG ms madara is stronger than ems sasuke🤣🤣🤣
Oh word? How strong is Madara at 17? What stage Susano’o does he have? How strong is MS Izuna at who he’s said to be on par with? And what about this makes him able to fight someone stronger than a stronger version of Hashirama then the one he lost to as an adult.
@@vaughnjackson6297 Madara Fanboys try not to make shit up challenge(IMPOSSIBLE):
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he will get oblitirated what is this bullshi , theres no way i believe he can defeat the kages combined without rinnegan no mater the menta amp crap or whatever
He'd slam
Nah Peak EMS Sasuke is an actual fight and a half... Early war arc EMS gets overwhelmed pretty handily though.
@@nirjhar4803 i dont see there was really any difference in power that was conclusive to say he went more power personally before getting rinnegan and its a joke saying him he was madara level when madara just shit stabbed him like he was nothing its just people creating fanboy on the popular boys at this point ,all he has going for him is amataresu and team backup and its been shown they have quite the capability to overcome it in many ways and if he gets karin or zugo in battle i guess others will get their subordinates too, to say just an ems makes a character comparable to whole 5 kage just feels like bullshit this premise shouldnt even be in the main story even for madara this feels like a joke