I like how she gets high and mighty to Maher, but says things like “looks like it was designed by 10yr old boys.” and how she uses comics to manipulate them. No sexist generalizations there.
What's ironic is that the insulting towards "nerds" here is insulting a good majority of his own audience. Most nerds are hungry for knowledge and willing to read and do the research, it's not all videogames and anime like a good majority tend to think. Because of that the older generation (a good majority of them) are out of touch with the youth and that includes being out of touch with those of us in our 30s and even 40s. You can't insult people that are trying and wanting to make this country better for the right reasons just because we're into something that's deemed "nerdy."
Willie can do and say whatever the fuck he wants. Hes a multimillionaire w a show on HBO. Do you think he gives a fuck about offending the population you described? And no, said individuals make up an irrelevant portion of his audience. Hes talking about nerds!
Her comments on how she has to use Marvel references to get their attention because tech people don't know who Voltaire is, is in my opinion equally as bad as bill Maher's insults to nerds. Wtf. This video is literally about making 'nerds' look like subhuman beings.
The onus [as an engineer and former SV engineer who had his degrees in CS and Mech. Engineering with minors in Anthropology, EE, Pure and Applied Mathematics] is on anyone who claims to be technologically literate to not be illiterate of humanity's past. If you can 't fathom how valuable a liberal arts part of formal education is then you deserve to be mocked.
@ Marc Driftmeyer: That's a strawman. Nobody here is arguing about the value or lack thereof of the humanities as a field of study. Just calling her out on the rather insulting notion that "nerds" or people in the hard sciences are so oblivious to anything outside their own disciplines that they haven't even heard of Voltaire.
When are people gonna realize that the real problem is corporate behavior allowed by the law and education of business leaders in training. The end result by the pursuit of the end game is always the same, no matter what the product or arena of business. It’s incompatible with meritocratic fairness and human value.
I know right. Bill seems to want to blame "nerds" rather than focus on corporate models that ignore any sense of social responsibility or social contract in favor of profit at all cost. Zuckerberg isn't some autistic who doesn't understand human social mores, he knew what he was doing and he just didn't care because it made him rich.
Dale He is not compelled to care except for money. That's business mantra. That's the point. Humanities are important, human social interaction awkwardness, etc are just amplifiers.
She is very sharp intellectually. Her voice of reason regarding social media is very much needed. The various social media platforms are basically electronically packaged addiction accessible via a touch screen. Despite all of the mishaps, stumbles and data breaches of the social media apparatus, most of us cannot turn away, even temporarily. At the very least, I think we need to be able to toggle on-off our social media addiction. Kara Swisher is on point here.
This was easily one of Bill’s most frustrating segments. Requiring an ID to use Facebook or Twitter? Wanting to regulate them and force them to be “responsible” for things that aren’t even illegal? This goes against the very spirit of the internet. Bill & this lady clearly don’t understand the importance of the free flow of information. It’s up to the consumer to have media literacy. It is not Facebook’s job to censor everything you don’t like. Their only responsibility should be to remove things that are ILLEGAL.
that's a smart lady. she's also a nerd. no one broke democracy. democracy is not a perfect system. no system is. the internet amplifies and accelerates everything. so we see all the flaws in people and political and economic systems jump up in our face. don't blame the nerds. we are in uncharted territories. no one knows what lies under the surface of the water. traditionally, the prudent thing to do is to go slow, but that's not an option for techs. or is someone advocating that we should impose speed limits on techs so that human society has more time to catch up? it'll be an interesting conversation but i doubt we can agree on what the speed limit should be, so it's a non-starter
Except she isn't smart. Who in their right mind thinks people should need an ID to use social media. And these are the same liberals who get enraged when people are required to use IDs to vote.
She's a demented tyrannical unfck cemetery on two feet. But it makes a lot of sense: make eerybody give their identity to have a social media account, because protection of private data from the big corporation, political interests, and everbody else involved. Very smart, I wonder if she can at least get a sandwich right.
Actually we could compare this to the printing press and it's arrival in the west. It shook the lands of Christendom ,and was the key to the spread of Protestantism. Culminating into the Thirty Years War. The internet is that on steroids. So no I wouldn't agree with the idea that we are in uncharted waters. The internet is Pandora's box
@@Gravelgratious I don't quite agree with you, because is not historically accurate, and is not actually following the dynamics on the groud, most nowadays exactly to cover up both the real causes of that conflict, and not to affect in any manner their current dogmas and dementia, gave this interpretation to that war, and repeated again and again hoping that it will become truth, and that eventually everybody will believe that the 30 war happened because of what you'd call 'free flow of information', and eventually now we shall all agree that the problem is the free flow of information' and that is what must be countered and stopped , and not the real problem: dementia, which always result in tyranny and struggle to uniformization. The 30 years war happened because of severly demented animals engaged in imposive their views over other people, who weren't them, following their own dementia af the absolute addiction to uniformization and making everybody a Xerox over you, because you are demented and as such completely unable to deal with the complexity of nature, and seams always for the dements easier to rule by impissing top down over everybody else their own interiors and ways and desires and perceptions, forgetting that those people are not them.
@@Gravelgratious Also, the Reformation itself, had nothing to do with printing press and anything of the kind, remember: nothing what's ever. 1. Catholicism is not Christianity, is more like Judaism, and is a sever departure from both the Evanghelia and the original Christian dogma as it was made in Constantinople. The Catholics were never Christians, and up to these days many of them, they never accepted Christianity. They are a heresy of middel easten traditional cultures and views, based on sexual slavery and slvery in whatever other way and form, and hey cluster more with Jew and Muslims, currently in the Catholic area only the non-believers hce a Christian kind of spirit and Christian type of idea. Catholicism was invented some 1000 years ago, spreaded ever sice, is a disgusting perversion of both the Scripture and the Christian dogma, is a system mass animalisation and mass slavery, mass desertified on of self, they cluster more with the so called worshippers of the Saint Falus and of human elitism and dementia from the entire southern hemisphere, than with anything to have to do with Christianity. In fact, because of them, the western populations nowadays have no clue wstsoever about what Christianity even is, because they took carein the last 1000 years for Christianity never ever to exist in the west, and eerything having to do with the name of Christ to be ridiculed and dispised, there and elsewere, because they preferred the Babylonan Borthels. People ME in origin have a very hard time most of them to live ad feel by the Christian dogma, this as an emasse phenomenon, and for a very long period of time, and they just use the Bible in a very false manner and to extract and severly twist a verse or another, all in the Ed to legitimize their only true ways, which are the classic middle eastern humanly antropological ways, very similar with the Indus basin cultures actually, less similar but with some influence of very classic African culture, but in this respect way less although there are come influeces, and that's it. Basically, you can call the Catholics the northen extreme of the Indus Basin, if you wish, and the entire hindu-ismic-jews-catholic area and cluster, call it the extended Indus Basin.
Regardless of what's posted on social media, it's each person's responsibility to use our critical thinking abilities in order to determine the TRUTH. Take the time to read, watch, and listen to other sites for your information before you form an opinion; it feels so good to be your own person.
Violet L. When trump said they did. I guess he was trying to be relatable. I think he was saying this in regards to voting. Republicans try to limit voting, helps them win elections.
NO! You don't need ID to buy groceries. You only NEED an ID to buy groceries if you want to pay for them via credit/debit card as with anything else you want to buy with a card.
Wait Bill, you’re against needing an ID to vote but you think you should verify identification to have a social media account? That makes a lot of sense.
yep should be pulled off the air he is a 300 million dollar no one that cannot even buy a car one of us or one of them huh think about he had a man on his show that broke security and they clapped hehe funny guy huh what's funny
3:35 - It's funny how she is so condescending and patronizing in how she compares comic books and Voltaire and then is wrong about Voltaire saying that quote.
... one thing about this show is that Mr. Maher always have excellent guests - I’m hoping to see Ms. Dahlia Lithwick on one of the future episodes & talk about the Supreme Court
Voter ID is fine if IDs are free and readily available everywhere. They aren't free and states with voter ID laws tend to also shut down DMVs and/or restrict DMV areas in areas with a lot of minorities. That's what is racist.
She prob does know. I think she was talking about how the words also apply to the unintended consequences of their creations and whether those outcomes were actually unintended at all seeing as the goal is rapid advancement
Man so not only does a genius or a "nerd" have to come up with a billion dollar idea, he/she has to look into the legislative side of things. It is not like there is a government or Congress that should take care of that!
What else should she take care of? She's a cemetery on two feet, breathing tyranny in all his pores, I'm affraid not even a cat would find life worthy to be lived with such people .... So, she takes care about making the life of everybody else a hell, because that is what her ptty existence is.
A pissed-away opportunity. Bill talking to someone about a topic he doesn't understand and doesn't know what questions to ask. Having her on the show could have been so so much more.
Anonymity assures privacy, doesn't take it away... what is she talking about? Whose values? Whose standards? I think the political web requires anonymity at times much like news sourcing or when you vote. That would be 1984 absolutely requiring everyone to totally ID themselves on the most surveilled medium in history. Dope.
interesting conversation; thank you! And somehow Bill Maher seemed to realize, that, in this case, judging someone over his appearance isn t the best thing to do. This was good!
Yes let's make the internet a regulated industry. Nobody wants the last remaining platform of expression anymore. The internet was never meant to be global. LOL
I'm an adult. Educated, a business owner, and think for myself. Always have, akways will. Critical thinking, it's not just a concept. Problem is social media has more control over our ignorant, young, immature minds than any other influence, parents, teachers, religious leaders etc. This is the first time in modern history that a very small group of influencers have the power to groom and mold an entire generation virtually from birth. It's really pretty scary.
What I find interesting is that both participants try to belittle Zuckerberg and insult his intelligence (IQ) and emotional aspect (EQ) ... despite the clear and obvious fact that Zuckerberg IS intelligent and is able to organise groups of people to build software and companies that provide exactly what the majority of people want. Ms Swisher notes disparagingly that Zuckerberg didn't finish college - as if completing an outdated college education in tech is needed at all. Given Bill's aside that he left to start a company and become a billionaire - I'm not sure she realised the weakness of her put down. And once she starts talking about needing to use Marvel references? Please - you are embarrassing yourself with these pathetic putdowns. That fact that social media sites have morphed into an unstoppable series of fake news items that are "liked" and specifically sought out by a large section of the community is NOT a fault of the construct - it's a reflection of the populace. Winston Churchill said it best : "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
I liked her. A lot. Very smart; very savvy. A wit. And very quick. Bill had a little trouble keeping up there. And Bill's no slouch in the glib dept. Good fer her....!!
LOVE HER ANSWER!!!!! " You can, insult his entire service and how it's destroying democracy, but don't insult how he looks!"✊😎 We really do need to stop insulting people based on how they look trying to get our point across. I always thought it was a sign of a weak argument when someone couldn't use their words (without insulting someone's looks)to get their point across.
Facebook isn't required. It's a free private service; you do not have to use it. Personally I wonder how they expect anyone to both monitor for bad behavior while simultaneously not censoring first amendment rights. Give them that algorithm and I have no doubt they will immediately implement it. I also think it is easier to blame than to solve the problem.
All these people sitting around mocking Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg cracks me up. Both of those men are worth 100 times (monetarily) any of these people and have built things that improved the world.
It has to go both ways. There has to be some sites that should not allow you in unless you've validated your identity. You can't have accountability and anonymity at the same time. I'm not saying every internet site has to be that way. But Facebook used to do this, they used to be college students only and if you didn't have a college email address, you couldn't get in. But once they got big enough, they relaxed that. Comment sections either need to be shut off, limited, or heavily moderated so that spam, trolls, and conspiracy theories can't thrive. Comment sections for places like here, or lots of facebook pages are complete cesspools. And just quite honestly, not every stinking post needs to be commented on. Freedom ain't free. There has to be rules and consequences and more importantly, enforcement.
In facebook's defense, no one imagined Facebook would get used by Russia in this manner. It's not right to say that they were built wrong but we do need changes now.
Ok i know this show is meant to be humorous but c'mon Bill (or his writers), jokes about nerds and Zuckerbergs appearance? You can do better than that! Besides that Kara is right with the statement that politicians are braindead when it comes to tech, you saw it in his hearings in the US and in the EU committee. Let him testify in front of tech-savvy committee and he wouldn't be able to get away with some minor changes to their TOS.
So many people were hating on her in the Elon Musk interview but she is just direct because she knows she stuff and most likely sees straight through people. The fact that she stopped the interviewer for slagging the word nerd and mark, was something not that many people do
People need to realize, Facebook, like Napster before, all were very "new" "cutting edge" until someone decides to abuse it. With the right amount of awareness, I hope Mark will understand this and make Facebook or any major social media more secure.
Kara seems civil here... as opposed to when she hosted Sam Harris recently and refuted most of his arguments without any facts and the tonality of a condescending child
Yeah i didn't care for how she jumped all over Bill's ass about his playful insult either. What is she? Zuckerburg's mother? Bill wasn't saying anything that most of us don't already think.
Ouch! This isn't good. Google tried to impose real names across the board on all its properties, and there was a huge blowback. With universal real names, _everyone_ can track you all the time. There's no way to put in 10,000 hours practicing your offbeat humour online, without _all_ of your clangers coming up on the top of the heap the next time a prospective employer Googles your real name. Bill, ever heard of what happens in improv, stays in improv? You, of all people, ought to know. People develop their identities online now. Every time you die on stage becomes part of your permanent record: unless you firewall your half-baked identities under various search pseudonyms. Should it be safer to humiliate yourself in some boozy club than from the comfort of your own couch or office juice bar? When you earned your comedy chops, did you demand that every heckler in attendance where a visible identification badge, just in case some gin-head got too far out of line? Bill, surely you can't be quite so dim as to not see both sides here.
@@TheDarkria Agreed, it does help. Everyone who earned a degree in a humanities program isn't a PC-SJW fucknut. Look at me for instance, I'm perfect and stuff... and stuff... like... ya know!
Facebook grew too quickly. No one could have anticipated the Russians running ads on that platform when they started out. The worst thing about social media is censorship. the Russian ads were not that serious of a problem.
Yes, well you could forfeit all your rights and privacy as a human being or you could tell your sister to log off the social media and/or block the mean comments. Tough choice there for you, pal.
You don't have the right to privacy on the internet the moment you engage in a social network. You can have your private emails and communications but the moment you enter into a network used by others and start posting you should be IMMEDIATELY identified. THe internet would be a whole lot more civil if millions of cowards didnt hide behind anonymity.
Well, yes you ARE identified when walking down the street if you, of instance, start bullying someone. Authorities can get involved super quick in such situations, but even without them you are identified to some extent by those people around you who see what you are doing, or who are the victims of your behavior. Anyway i fully support your right to privacy....outside of social situations. If you want privacy don't use social networks. Stick to private ones.
Wow, I like her. She wasn't just agreeing with Bill , she actually pulled him up on stuff. Well done.
CerBoris you can see she’s used to dealing with egos
It's a shame her interview wasn't twice as long as I felt like she probably had a lot of interesting things to say.
Denam
I see - niveau rises ....
But her points were ridiculous. It's impossible to decide who is worthy and unworthy to use Facebook.
I bet they fucked after the interview. :D
EDIT: FYI, I thought she's charming and intelligent. :D :D
I like how she gets high and mighty to Maher, but says things like “looks like it was designed by 10yr old boys.” and how she uses comics to manipulate them.
No sexist generalizations there.
Lex C How is she high and mighty, because she acts like his equal? You're a loser
What's ironic is that the insulting towards "nerds" here is insulting a good majority of his own audience. Most nerds are hungry for knowledge and willing to read and do the research, it's not all videogames and anime like a good majority tend to think. Because of that the older generation (a good majority of them) are out of touch with the youth and that includes being out of touch with those of us in our 30s and even 40s. You can't insult people that are trying and wanting to make this country better for the right reasons just because we're into something that's deemed "nerdy."
Willie can do and say whatever the fuck he wants. Hes a multimillionaire w a show on HBO. Do you think he gives a fuck about offending the population you described? And no, said individuals make up an irrelevant portion of his audience. Hes talking about nerds!
Her comments on how she has to use Marvel references to get their attention because tech people don't know who Voltaire is, is in my opinion equally as bad as bill Maher's insults to nerds. Wtf.
This video is literally about making 'nerds' look like subhuman beings.
Fred Gonsalves Agreed
That's why I say she was a hypocrite, elevating herself by persistently scolding Bill.
The onus [as an engineer and former SV engineer who had his degrees in CS and Mech. Engineering with minors in Anthropology, EE, Pure and Applied Mathematics] is on anyone who claims to be technologically literate to not be illiterate of humanity's past. If you can 't fathom how valuable a liberal arts part of formal education is then you deserve to be mocked.
@@magick1969 so off topic
@ Marc Driftmeyer: That's a strawman. Nobody here is arguing about the value or lack thereof of the humanities as a field of study. Just calling her out on the rather insulting notion that "nerds" or people in the hard sciences are so oblivious to anything outside their own disciplines that they haven't even heard of Voltaire.
The internet should be the Wild West. It’s design to be and no one should play authoritarian on it. Stop coddling everyone from repercussions.
Let me guess, your eq is about ... 0
Bill insulting another man on his looks. HA!
And he has fucking hair plugs. Like he's obviously super insecure about his own looks
When are people gonna realize that the real problem is corporate behavior allowed by the law and education of business leaders in training. The end result by the pursuit of the end game is always the same, no matter what the product or arena of business. It’s incompatible with meritocratic fairness and human value.
I know right. Bill seems to want to blame "nerds" rather than focus on corporate models that ignore any sense of social responsibility or social contract in favor of profit at all cost. Zuckerberg isn't some autistic who doesn't understand human social mores, he knew what he was doing and he just didn't care because it made him rich.
Dale He is not compelled to care except for money. That's business mantra. That's the point. Humanities are important, human social interaction awkwardness, etc are just amplifiers.
She is very sharp intellectually. Her voice of reason regarding social media is very much needed. The various social media platforms are basically electronically packaged addiction accessible via a touch screen. Despite all of the mishaps, stumbles and data breaches of the social media apparatus, most of us cannot turn away, even temporarily. At the very least, I think we need to be able to toggle on-off our social media addiction. Kara Swisher is on point here.
I hope she comes back and OFTEN. She killed it and he was really put to task. Loved her.
This was easily one of Bill’s most frustrating segments. Requiring an ID to use Facebook or Twitter? Wanting to regulate them and force them to be “responsible” for things that aren’t even illegal? This goes against the very spirit of the internet. Bill & this lady clearly don’t understand the importance of the free flow of information.
It’s up to the consumer to have media literacy. It is not Facebook’s job to censor everything you don’t like. Their only responsibility should be to remove things that are ILLEGAL.
Free flow of information doesn't mean anything when you can't trust it.
"this lady's" name is Kara Swisher... and you obviously don't have the EQ necessary to have an intelligent opinion.
@Akshay Kumar - ok crazy lolol....
Love her. Intelligent, funny AF, unafraid to pull Bill up.
I like the “weaponize” . Words aren’t weapons. Hurting feelings isn’t a crime.
Wow, what a dumbass.... another idiot with zero EQ.
Said, No One.
I can't wait to show this to people in 20 years. They won't believe that people were ever this stupid.
They still are. Not out of the woods yet.
2:54 I respected her for not going along with the bullying... But then she did her own bullying
She bullied their character,rather than their looks (as Bill was doing). A thing they actually have control over but are too narcissistic to change.
that's a smart lady. she's also a nerd. no one broke democracy. democracy is not a perfect system. no system is. the internet amplifies and accelerates everything. so we see all the flaws in people and political and economic systems jump up in our face. don't blame the nerds. we are in uncharted territories. no one knows what lies under the surface of the water. traditionally, the prudent thing to do is to go slow, but that's not an option for techs. or is someone advocating that we should impose speed limits on techs so that human society has more time to catch up? it'll be an interesting conversation but i doubt we can agree on what the speed limit should be, so it's a non-starter
Except she isn't smart. Who in their right mind thinks people should need an ID to use social media. And these are the same liberals who get enraged when people are required to use IDs to vote.
She's a demented tyrannical unfck cemetery on two feet. But it makes a lot of sense: make eerybody give their identity to have a social media account, because protection of private data from the big corporation, political interests, and everbody else involved. Very smart, I wonder if she can at least get a sandwich right.
Actually we could compare this to the printing press and it's arrival in the west. It shook the lands of Christendom ,and was the key to the spread of Protestantism. Culminating into the Thirty Years War. The internet is that on steroids. So no I wouldn't agree with the idea that we are in uncharted waters. The internet is Pandora's box
@@Gravelgratious I don't quite agree with you, because is not historically accurate, and is not actually following the dynamics on the groud, most nowadays exactly to cover up both the real causes of that conflict, and not to affect in any manner their current dogmas and dementia, gave this interpretation to that war, and repeated again and again hoping that it will become truth, and that eventually everybody will believe that the 30 war happened because of what you'd call 'free flow of information', and eventually now we shall all agree that the problem is the free flow of information' and that is what must be countered and stopped , and not the real problem: dementia, which always result in tyranny and struggle to uniformization. The 30 years war happened because of severly demented animals engaged in imposive their views over other people, who weren't them, following their own dementia af the absolute addiction to uniformization and making everybody a Xerox over you, because you are demented and as such completely unable to deal with the complexity of nature, and seams always for the dements easier to rule by impissing top down over everybody else their own interiors and ways and desires and perceptions, forgetting that those people are not them.
@@Gravelgratious Also, the Reformation itself, had nothing to do with printing press and anything of the kind, remember: nothing what's ever.
1. Catholicism is not Christianity, is more like Judaism, and is a sever departure from both the Evanghelia and the original Christian dogma as it was made in Constantinople. The Catholics were never Christians, and up to these days many of them, they never accepted Christianity. They are a heresy of middel easten traditional cultures and views, based on sexual slavery and slvery in whatever other way and form, and hey cluster more with Jew and Muslims, currently in the Catholic area only the non-believers hce a Christian kind of spirit and Christian type of idea. Catholicism was invented some 1000 years ago, spreaded ever sice, is a disgusting perversion of both the Scripture and the Christian dogma, is a system mass animalisation and mass slavery, mass desertified on of self, they cluster more with the so called worshippers of the Saint Falus and of human elitism and dementia from the entire southern hemisphere, than with anything to have to do with Christianity. In fact, because of them, the western populations nowadays have no clue wstsoever about what Christianity even is, because they took carein the last 1000 years for Christianity never ever to exist in the west, and eerything having to do with the name of Christ to be ridiculed and dispised, there and elsewere, because they preferred the Babylonan Borthels. People ME in origin have a very hard time most of them to live ad feel by the Christian dogma, this as an emasse phenomenon, and for a very long period of time, and they just use the Bible in a very false manner and to extract and severly twist a verse or another, all in the Ed to legitimize their only true ways, which are the classic middle eastern humanly antropological ways, very similar with the Indus basin cultures actually, less similar but with some influence of very classic African culture, but in this respect way less although there are come influeces, and that's it. Basically, you can call the Catholics the northen extreme of the Indus Basin, if you wish, and the entire hindu-ismic-jews-catholic area and cluster, call it the extended Indus Basin.
Regardless of what's posted on social media, it's each person's responsibility to use our critical thinking abilities in order to determine the TRUTH. Take the time to read, watch, and listen to other sites for your information before you form an opinion; it feels so good to be your own person.
When did we need ID to get groceries? 🤔
Violet L. When trump said they did. I guess he was trying to be relatable. I think he was saying this in regards to voting. Republicans try to limit voting, helps them win elections.
when you buy liquor
5:30 "I'm not going down your fucking slide" that made me giggle
NO! You don't need ID to buy groceries. You only NEED an ID to buy groceries if you want to pay for them via credit/debit card as with anything else you want to buy with a card.
Wait Bill, you’re against needing an ID to vote but you think you should verify identification to have a social media account? That makes a lot of sense.
Perfect point! Wish to hear more.
"I am not going to go down your f**king slide". When serious people curse like no tomorrow, it has a great ring to it.
LOL i like her. A woman who out talked Bill.
She's too school-mum-ish for my taste
Is this your first time watching television? Nice!
Look up Camille Paglia .
yep should be pulled off the air he is a 300 million dollar no one that cannot even buy a car one of us or one of them huh think about he had a man on his show that broke security and they clapped hehe funny guy huh what's funny
If bill Maher saw your statement, he would more than likely click thumbs up.
e val79. Oh look at your passive aggressive insult. You have nothing better to do with your life?
Here after she asked for Ben Shapiro to be banned because her son watches his videos.
Well, Ben Shapiro is a piece of crap. No one should be able to watch his videos.
>"Why don't you need ID to prove who you are to use Facebook and Twitter?"
>Opposes voter ID laws.
Exactly
This.
The irony I’m sure is lost on him.
Femenist logic -> the psychiatry. In fact, is enough to look at her a bit, to know exactly there's something terribly wrong with the creature.
find another kid to shoot with the nsu
3:35 - It's funny how she is so condescending and patronizing in how she compares comic books and Voltaire and then is wrong about Voltaire saying that quote.
"I'm not going down your fucking slide." EXACTLY. Thank you!
Deleted Facebook over a year ago. I don't miss it at all. I recommend it to everyone!
Standards? You mean reasons to censor right?
... one thing about this show is that Mr. Maher always have excellent guests - I’m hoping to see Ms. Dahlia Lithwick on one of the future episodes & talk about the Supreme Court
As Paul VALERY, a French poet, writer and philosoher put it once: "In general, people know what they do. But they hardly know what what they do does"
Google has to be held accountable for privacy violating personal information.
Do we need a Ministry of Truth or can people become media savvy and logical?
No, we must get our truth from the government. There is no personal responsibility to being informed anymore.
@@iamtheahlenius You're saying actually intelligent things, so your EQ must be low.
“Voter ID is racist!”
“Why shouldn’t we have to verify ID for Twitter?”
🤔🤔😏
Voter ID is fine if IDs are free and readily available everywhere. They aren't free and states with voter ID laws tend to also shut down DMVs and/or restrict DMV areas in areas with a lot of minorities. That's what is racist.
But an ID for social media is weird.
Glad we mostly agree
I am 50 years old and I *would* go down those slides. Shit! In the summer, I live in Water Parks and Great Adventures!💞💞💞💞
She is absolutely gorgeous, intelligent, articulate and very high EQ. Podcast- subscribed!
wow, this woman turns out to be incredible dislikeable. and clearly authoritarian in her attitudes.
Don't blame nerds. I'm a nerd. It's the money and power that corrupts. "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Kara writes about tech and doesn't know what "move fast and break things" even means.
Keep things open and free in the internet!
She prob does know. I think she was talking about how the words also apply to the unintended consequences of their creations and whether those outcomes were actually unintended at all seeing as the goal is rapid advancement
Yeh, tell that to a cemetery on two feet.
Give Kara a show.
Man so not only does a genius or a "nerd" have to come up with a billion dollar idea, he/she has to look into the legislative side of things. It is not like there is a government or Congress that should take care of that!
What else should she take care of? She's a cemetery on two feet, breathing tyranny in all his pores, I'm affraid not even a cat would find life worthy to be lived with such people .... So, she takes care about making the life of everybody else a hell, because that is what her ptty existence is.
A pissed-away opportunity. Bill talking to someone about a topic he doesn't understand and doesn't know what questions to ask. Having her on the show could have been so so much more.
She says it's FB's "job" to take away your data privacy; Bill says we should give them our I.D.
I come to Bill for the stupid.
Anonymity assures privacy, doesn't take it away... what is she talking about? Whose values? Whose standards? I think the political web requires anonymity at times much like news sourcing or when you vote. That would be 1984 absolutely requiring everyone to totally ID themselves on the most surveilled medium in history. Dope.
interesting conversation; thank you! And somehow Bill Maher seemed to realize, that, in this case, judging someone over his appearance isn t the best thing to do. This was good!
Yes let's make the internet a regulated industry. Nobody wants the last remaining platform of expression anymore. The internet was never meant to be global. LOL
Having to show ID puts victims of cyber bullying, or pro-democracy activists under increased risk.
I'm an adult. Educated, a business owner, and think for myself. Always have, akways will. Critical thinking, it's not just a concept. Problem is social media has more control over our ignorant, young, immature minds than any other influence, parents, teachers, religious leaders etc. This is the first time in modern history that a very small group of influencers have the power to groom and mold an entire generation virtually from birth. It's really pretty scary.
I thought the whole point of the internet is for the exchange of ideas. Now they are saying the internet needs to be regulated.
She needs her own show
I have to go here to Bill to get what’s REALLY GOING ON!
Courtney Cox really diversified diversified herself
And Google’s mentality was “Don’t be evil”.
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I like Kara Swisher. She says it like it is.
Great breakdown, really explains everything clearly and effectively. People like her need to be involved in shaping tech values for the future.
I wish all his guests were this intelligent. It would be such an interesting show.
Wauw Kara. Respect.
Kara is brilliant!
What I find interesting is that both participants try to belittle Zuckerberg and insult his intelligence (IQ) and emotional aspect (EQ) ... despite the clear and obvious fact that Zuckerberg IS intelligent and is able to organise groups of people to build software and companies that provide exactly what the majority of people want.
Ms Swisher notes disparagingly that Zuckerberg didn't finish college - as if completing an outdated college education in tech is needed at all. Given Bill's aside that he left to start a company and become a billionaire - I'm not sure she realised the weakness of her put down. And once she starts talking about needing to use Marvel references? Please - you are embarrassing yourself with these pathetic putdowns.
That fact that social media sites have morphed into an unstoppable series of fake news items that are "liked" and specifically sought out by a large section of the community is NOT a fault of the construct - it's a reflection of the populace.
Winston Churchill said it best : "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
Wrong. It hasn’t been like that since the beginning with Facebook. Does nobody remember that it used to be for college students only?
Bill, your first thing would be DC Cab.
I liked her. A lot. Very smart; very savvy. A wit. And very quick. Bill had a little trouble keeping up there. And Bill's no slouch in the glib dept. Good fer her....!!
It's always great to watch folks in the media argue for censorship of the masses.
love her
To blame Facebook for the people who use Facebook is ridiculous. If you don't want to use Facebook and be influenced, don't use it!!!!
LOVE HER ANSWER!!!!! " You can, insult his entire service and how it's destroying democracy, but don't insult how he looks!"✊😎
We really do need to stop insulting people based on how they look trying to get our point across. I always thought it was a sign of a weak argument when someone couldn't use their words (without insulting someone's looks)to get their point across.
Didn't South Park already make the point That Kara Swisher just made?
Facebook isn't required. It's a free private service; you do not have to use it. Personally I wonder how they expect anyone to both monitor for bad behavior while simultaneously not censoring first amendment rights. Give them that algorithm and I have no doubt they will immediately implement it. I also think it is easier to blame than to solve the problem.
All these people sitting around mocking Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg cracks me up. Both of those men are worth 100 times (monetarily) any of these people and have built things that improved the world.
It has to go both ways. There has to be some sites that should not allow you in unless you've validated your identity. You can't have accountability and anonymity at the same time. I'm not saying every internet site has to be that way. But Facebook used to do this, they used to be college students only and if you didn't have a college email address, you couldn't get in. But once they got big enough, they relaxed that. Comment sections either need to be shut off, limited, or heavily moderated so that spam, trolls, and conspiracy theories can't thrive. Comment sections for places like here, or lots of facebook pages are complete cesspools. And just quite honestly, not every stinking post needs to be commented on. Freedom ain't free. There has to be rules and consequences and more importantly, enforcement.
Hold on, they would people to use an ID for online sites but they are extremely against using an ID when you vote?
How could Mark know how Facebook would take off. It's a new industry, an new business. He couldn't possibly anticipate every contingency!
In facebook's defense, no one imagined Facebook would get used by Russia in this manner. It's not right to say that they were built wrong but we do need changes now.
Oppenheimer was definitely a Nerd by her definition. We knew this in the 1950s.
Who’s here after she said she wanted Ben Shapiro banned?
So, she must have shamed Google when they fired James Damore, right?
Kara is amazing
Ok i know this show is meant to be humorous but c'mon Bill (or his writers), jokes about nerds and Zuckerbergs appearance? You can do better than that! Besides that Kara is right with the statement that politicians are braindead when it comes to tech, you saw it in his hearings in the US and in the EU committee. Let him testify in front of tech-savvy committee and he wouldn't be able to get away with some minor changes to their TOS.
So many people were hating on her in the Elon Musk interview but she is just direct because she knows she stuff and most likely sees straight through people. The fact that she stopped the interviewer for slagging the word nerd and mark, was something not that many people do
So they don't want ids to vote but want one for a website account... Makes sense
Kara Swisher is great! This is definitely one of Maher's best. Kudos.
He was a kid and isn’t a mind reader. But now there’s no excuses. They are grown men now.
Ben. Uncle Ben.
That's Uncle Benz, the car guy!
People need to realize, Facebook, like Napster before, all were very "new" "cutting edge" until someone decides to abuse it. With the right amount of awareness, I hope Mark will understand this and make Facebook or any major social media more secure.
You forgot Myspace.....
Kara seems civil here... as opposed to when she hosted Sam Harris recently and refuted most of his arguments without any facts and the tonality of a condescending child
Well said
Yeah i didn't care for how she jumped all over Bill's ass about his playful insult either. What is she? Zuckerburg's mother? Bill wasn't saying anything that most of us don't already think.
Sam Harris is a spoiled trust fund baby so she had to talk to him on his level.
paingainmayn ad hominem.. nice bud
Ouch! This isn't good. Google tried to impose real names across the board on all its properties, and there was a huge blowback. With universal real names, _everyone_ can track you all the time. There's no way to put in 10,000 hours practicing your offbeat humour online, without _all_ of your clangers coming up on the top of the heap the next time a prospective employer Googles your real name.
Bill, ever heard of what happens in improv, stays in improv? You, of all people, ought to know.
People develop their identities online now. Every time you die on stage becomes part of your permanent record: unless you firewall your half-baked identities under various search pseudonyms. Should it be safer to humiliate yourself in some boozy club than from the comfort of your own couch or office juice bar?
When you earned your comedy chops, did you demand that every heckler in attendance where a visible identification badge, just in case some gin-head got too far out of line?
Bill, surely you can't be quite so dim as to not see both sides here.
I do believe that social media is a net gain for society
“He didn’t take humanities in college”! Is she really claiming humanities in college gives you a good sense of responsibility?
Humanities study is indoctrination to become a SJW. She really "knows" that only an SJW has human feelings and understanding.
It helps.
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Agreed, it does help. Everyone who earned a degree in a humanities program isn't a PC-SJW fucknut. Look at me for instance, I'm perfect and stuff... and stuff... like... ya know!
Good for you Kara! "don't insult his clothes"
She was a fantastic guest. I hope we see her back in the future.
She’s hilarious woman out there❤️
Bill, your "first thing" was Pizza Man and Murder, She Wrote
I agree with Bill: How the fuck did the term "nerd" become a badge of honor?
Facebook grew too quickly. No one could have anticipated the Russians running ads on that platform when they started out. The worst thing about social media is censorship. the Russian ads were not that serious of a problem.
I'd happily trade anonymity for the ability to prosecute the troll army that harassed my little sister into a suicide attempt for their own amusement.
Hype Killer What's the problem with that?
Yes, well you could forfeit all your rights and privacy as a human being or you could tell your sister to log off the social media and/or block the mean comments. Tough choice there for you, pal.
You don't have the right to privacy on the internet the moment you engage in a social network. You can have your private emails and communications but the moment you enter into a network used by others and start posting you should be IMMEDIATELY identified. THe internet would be a whole lot more civil if millions of cowards didnt hide behind anonymity.
Well, yes you ARE identified when walking down the street if you, of instance, start bullying someone. Authorities can get involved super quick in such situations, but even without them you are identified to some extent by those people around you who see what you are doing, or who are the victims of your behavior. Anyway i fully support your right to privacy....outside of social situations. If you want privacy don't use social networks. Stick to private ones.
And your name is new message LOL
A force to be reckoned with.
Facebook should change it's named to --- TwoFacedbook
why does bill keep saying you need ID to buy groceries? other than booze, I never need to pull out my ID.
Reality Winner should not be in JAIL!
Social media doesn't amplify as much as it sets a bench mark..... one every other rich per capita country has managed to pass