I love that many of your tendencies that you’ve consulted Larry about over the years are ones I struggle with recently! I also really like Larry’s coaching style. Thank you for helping me fix my tendencies through you.
Hey Matt, just found this video a few days ago, gave it a try on the range and then on the course and played the best I have played all year! Love your videos
Yep, I've always had the same issue with getting stuck but was never prescribed a simple solution from any teacher like this drill. You two do a great job at simplifying things and I can really appreciate that.
Thanks @Matt Blois and @Larry Cheung... this is gold! I was "super lifty" thinking I was getting good rotation, but after this it was way more consistent and solid iron contact
Best swings ever and the accuracy confirmed it. The two prime thoughts on course are the rear elbow and the lead hand/wrist. Elbow ACROSS AND TOWARD the target, and the lead wrist hand, OUT AND UP with an even roll as late in the sequence as possible. To hit really low drawing punch out shots ala Scheffler that roll onto the green from in the woods from 240 out, same thought and add the final Byron Nelson tip of trying to drive the ball into the ground a few inches forward and to the right of where it lies. Slightly open face at address and ball position back. Awesome video!
Matt, in case you did not see my offer in your Live chat, I would be glad to volunteer to video your game vlogs as I’m less than 1 hour to Cedarbrae. I’m not a Pro but confident that I could do a great job.
Was very concerned about my trail elbow, but did not know for sure the cure. Great timing, but again this is something that I/we need to refer back to more often than we think. Mucho danke.
Struggled with my right arm getting way behind my shoulder because of my over swing! Getting shorter on my back swing with this very drill keeping that right arm in front of my chest! Excellent drill with Larry’s explanation thanks Matt!
Love it! Been working all winter keeping club and especially my trail elbow in front of me in the backswing. My fault was creating depth in the swing with what I call a fake turn (lead arm against chest at top of the backswing and trail elbow hanging out in space). This caused my club to lag too far behind coming down so I would stall my turn and flip with my hands. If timed right I would make what felt like good contact but hit high floaty irons. Now feeling the trail elbow “tucked” I’m compressing the ball like I haven’t done in years.
Wow this is totally me. I don't do it with the driver because the flatter lie keeps me going around but I definitely have this issue with shorter irons. Great drill!
I'm also working on this exact issue. When my right elbow got this way (I was trying to create length incorrectly as yourself and Larry noted) I would already start losing power at the top of the backswing as my arms were out of sync with the turn and of course the sequence on the downswing was all out of sorts subsequently. Great video showing the problem, and the drill to try and correct this
Thanks… great vid for one of the biggest issue for a lot of amateur in golf. I might be wrong but a lot of trail elbow bad move bring a lot of movement in down swing and compensation in swing. Not bad if you re super talented with timing… but swing killer for amateurs
Yes! Good discussion. Is necessary for consistent and efficient swing plane. When done properly, elbow operates as a hinge and reduces variables to contact. If it feels awkward, adjust spine angle so that the elbow has an easier time of clearing your hip. Will be different for some, but is right for everyone. Can start with club at parallel to floor, then move to half swings, then move to full speed and feel throughout the practice session.
i started to get better at golf using my right arm in a piston motion (contract and straighten), this does force my right elbow behind my seem line. i will try this down the range.
Recently watched a Pete Cowan vid where he advocates turning your hands together in your grip to get forearms in a strong neutral position. I tried it and worked well but felt a little funky in the backswing. Am keen to try this drill to see if it ties it together. 👍
Love these videos and following your journey! The end of the backswing from the first swing at :56 and the last one at 6:11 look identical to me but LC said it was really good and you said it was a better strike. Can you explain what the differences are and what you're feeling? Really hard to tell by looking at it but would love to work on this myself.
Larry really helped me maintaining that elbow in as well. One of the first things we worked on. Great video, are you gonna keep filming with him in new locations?
Fantastic stuff. Very helpful to me. The only caution i would offer is that some people with physical limitations in their shoulder might not be able to externally rotate their trail shoulder enough to avoid the backswing chicken wing. And there are some players that have had success with it. Fred Couples Jack Nicklaus John Daly…etc. I’d love to hear Larry’s thoughts on why they got away with it. Was it just an optical thing in some of those legendary swings where elbow was out but not in a problematic position? Or were they just really good at re directing from a challenging top position ??
It's superfluous movement & if you watch their swings, they drop it back down into the right position fairly early. If you're athletic enough you can get away with a lot of things that would cause huge problems for an average player. One of my buddies does this to the extreme & he's a 2 hdcp. He has incredibly quick hands to get back on plane. If I try his move, I nearly miss the ball.
Serious question. Are you actually a student here or are you "playing" one for our benefit? Your swing seems so clean! This content is either way greatly appreciated! My trail elbow is the first thing that hurts when I play a lot of golf. Being a bit more conscious about how I swing the club might help. Thanks for the drills! 😊
I feel very mechanical if I try and keep my left arm against that imaginary wall. Is this position supposed to result in a more consistent strike or path? I'm not understanding the real benefit if you only have a little bit of elbow "flare".
The benefit would be both. A swing path is just a number that you can arrive to from a multitude of swing mechanics and get the same path. With this elbow position you are creating more proper turn /rotation and width by not artificially creating it by using your arms independently from the rest of your body.
@@adamwittman982 Using your arms isn't "artificial" in my mind, it's just another way of creating swing length, and therefore, speed. Not all of us can twist our body like a pretzel to get swing speed.
I love that many of your tendencies that you’ve consulted Larry about over the years are ones I struggle with recently! I also really like Larry’s coaching style.
Thank you for helping me fix my tendencies through you.
Hey Matt, just found this video a few days ago, gave it a try on the range and then on the course and played the best I have played all year! Love your videos
Wow this is actually what I’m working on right now. Thanks Matt love the new channel!
Yep, I've always had the same issue with getting stuck but was never prescribed a simple solution from any teacher like this drill. You two do a great job at simplifying things and I can really appreciate that.
You can see how you’re layering related drills that make learning and changing swing so much easier. Such good content Matt. Thank you
I tried this drill on the course and my ball striking was pure. Keep up the great work
Thanks @Matt Blois and @Larry Cheung... this is gold! I was "super lifty" thinking I was getting good rotation, but after this it was way more consistent and solid iron contact
Perfect drill. Just tried this and it immediately fixed up my trail elbow, hopefully those blocks and hooks become less and less.
Larry & Matt nail all my swing issues, appreciate these drills to help me
Definitely something I need to work on, I will bookmark this video so I can keep reminding myself
Your timing with this video/lesson couldn't be better.....thank you!!!!!
Best swings ever and the accuracy confirmed it. The two prime thoughts on course are the rear elbow and the lead hand/wrist. Elbow ACROSS AND TOWARD the target, and the lead wrist hand, OUT AND UP with an even roll as late in the sequence as possible. To hit really low drawing punch out shots ala Scheffler that roll onto the green from in the woods from 240 out, same thought and add the final Byron Nelson tip of trying to drive the ball into the ground a few inches forward and to the right of where it lies. Slightly open face at address and ball position back. Awesome video!
Matt, in case you did not see my offer in your Live chat, I would be glad to volunteer to video your game vlogs as I’m less than 1 hour to Cedarbrae. I’m not a Pro but confident that I could do a great job.
Was very concerned about my trail elbow, but did not know for sure the cure. Great timing, but again this is something that I/we need to refer back to more often than we think. Mucho danke.
Awesome!!! Thanks 😁👍
Struggled with my right arm getting way behind my shoulder because of my over swing! Getting shorter on my back swing with this very drill keeping that right arm in front of my chest! Excellent drill with Larry’s explanation thanks Matt!
Matt. Love these videos with LC.
Love it! Been working all winter keeping club and especially my trail elbow in front of me in the backswing. My fault was creating depth in the swing with what I call a fake turn (lead arm against chest at top of the backswing and trail elbow hanging out in space). This caused my club to lag too far behind coming down so I would stall my turn and flip with my hands. If timed right I would make what felt like good contact but hit high floaty irons. Now feeling the trail elbow “tucked” I’m compressing the ball like I haven’t done in years.
Hell yeah, that’s awesome dude. Always such a great feeling when you get something figured out and it starts working for you.
Man, this describes me to a T. I’m afraid to change what I have, but this is always in the back of my head.
Wow this is totally me. I don't do it with the driver because the flatter lie keeps me going around but I definitely have this issue with shorter irons. Great drill!
I'm also working on this exact issue. When my right elbow got this way (I was trying to create length incorrectly as yourself and Larry noted) I would already start losing power at the top of the backswing as my arms were out of sync with the turn and of course the sequence on the downswing was all out of sorts subsequently. Great video showing the problem, and the drill to try and correct this
Thanks… great vid for one of the biggest issue for a lot of amateur in golf. I might be wrong but a lot of trail elbow bad move bring a lot of movement in down swing and compensation in swing.
Not bad if you re super talented with timing… but swing killer for amateurs
Matt has wayyyyyy more talent than usual golfer 😂😂😂😂
Love the video will work on the drill
I'm working on the elbow myself. Great vid and drill. Will definitely be practicing with it.
Yes! Good discussion. Is necessary for consistent and efficient swing plane. When done properly, elbow operates as a hinge and reduces variables to contact. If it feels awkward, adjust spine angle so that the elbow has an easier time of clearing your hip. Will be different for some, but is right for everyone. Can start with club at parallel to floor, then move to half swings, then move to full speed and feel throughout the practice session.
Great for those that cast hands around ball.
So good lads ☺️ please keep it up🍻
i started to get better at golf using my right arm in a piston motion (contract and straighten), this does force my right elbow behind my seem line. i will try this down the range.
Literally the drill I was looking for. Thank you!
Been working on flying elbow like you had. Gonna try some of these drills
Recently watched a Pete Cowan vid where he advocates turning your hands together in your grip to get forearms in a strong neutral position. I tried it and worked well but felt a little funky in the backswing. Am keen to try this drill to see if it ties it together. 👍
This is absolutely fantastic!! Def having this exact issue…thank you so much
Amazing.
I have to work on this same thing, great vid!
Thanks!
Thank you!
thanks for the upload Matt!
Gold!
Comment for thé algorithme! Onward and upward!
This is one of my issues. I think it’s got something to do with me playing baseball and hockey during my formative years before I got into golf.
Same motion with the driver? Would like to see the amount of turn and elbow relationship to shirt inseam with the driver
just got a lesson about this i have way too much depth with my arms.
Love these videos and following your journey! The end of the backswing from the first swing at :56 and the last one at 6:11 look identical to me but LC said it was really good and you said it was a better strike. Can you explain what the differences are and what you're feeling? Really hard to tell by looking at it but would love to work on this myself.
elbow is a bit more in front of the chest, it is subtle
Matt the video machine.
Larry really helped me maintaining that elbow in as well. One of the first things we worked on. Great video, are you gonna keep filming with him in new locations?
Yes for sure
Fantastic stuff. Very helpful to me. The only caution i would offer is that some people with physical limitations in their shoulder might not be able to externally rotate their trail shoulder enough to avoid the backswing chicken wing. And there are some players that have had success with it. Fred Couples Jack Nicklaus John Daly…etc. I’d love to hear Larry’s thoughts on why they got away with it. Was it just an optical thing in some of those legendary swings where elbow was out but not in a problematic position? Or were they just really good at re directing from a challenging top position ??
It's superfluous movement & if you watch their swings, they drop it back down into the right position fairly early. If you're athletic enough you can get away with a lot of things that would cause huge problems for an average player.
One of my buddies does this to the extreme & he's a 2 hdcp. He has incredibly quick hands to get back on plane. If I try his move, I nearly miss the ball.
Serious question. Are you actually a student here or are you "playing" one for our benefit? Your swing seems so clean! This content is either way greatly appreciated! My trail elbow is the first thing that hurts when I play a lot of golf. Being a bit more conscious about how I swing the club might help. Thanks for the drills! 😊
He is a student and he is doing it for both your benefit and his. He is also known as the iron byron golf machine.
Same here! I golfed for YEARS with no issues but a few swing 'tweaks' recently and for the last few months it's been killing me! I need help. :D
I feel very mechanical if I try and keep my left arm against that imaginary wall. Is this position supposed to result in a more consistent strike or path? I'm not understanding the real benefit if you only have a little bit of elbow "flare".
The benefit would be both. A swing path is just a number that you can arrive to from a multitude of swing mechanics and get the same path. With this elbow position you are creating more proper turn /rotation and width by not artificially creating it by using your arms independently from the rest of your body.
@@adamwittman982 Using your arms isn't "artificial" in my mind, it's just another way of creating swing length, and therefore, speed. Not all of us can twist our body like a pretzel to get swing speed.
@@TML34 then you stay connected like rahm finau
@@adamwittman982 yes, but not quite the same results. 😂
Would this be similar for driver swing also?
Yes for sure 👍
Are you sure this is right? My trail elbow keeps telling me its job is to violently throw the club over the top and hit weak wipes :)
Did you find that you gained a little speed with a better trail elbow position?
compared to the amount of effort and length of backswing, definitely
Matt, I fear you’re getting close to paralysis by analysis. The golf swing is fluid motion not position by position.
Great stuff fellas. This is a huge one for me! 🖊🗒