Within 2 days of taking CPD Choline I literally felt a difference in my ability to think. I was diagnosed MCI (Mild Cognitive Impairment) three years ago. Between diet change (strict carnivore), nutrients including CPD Choline, and being introduced to virtual reality puzzle games by my psychologist daughter, I was able to get my memory and cognition back to where I was able to write my third book and publish it. I will continue this regiment for rest of my life!
Here are my ANECDOTAL "broscience" experiences on your recommendations: Acetyl-L-Carnitine: I developed, and others I know personally, problems with controlling my anger while using this. Sulbutiamine: Works great at first. No digestive problems. Builds up a strange type of tolerance that leads to a headache. TTFD: Less "nootropic" effect than sulbutiamine. Sometimes gives minor odd aftertaste (that can last hours) if not consumed BEFORE food. The better form due to side effects simply presenting as higher metabolism. Benfotiamine: Didn't notice any cognitive effects, likely requires a long time to kick in. Some people vouch for this form so I can't dismiss it outright. Pantothenic Acid: A more bioavailable form is "Pantethine", which like Sulbutiamine, is two Pantothenic Acid molecules linked by a disulfide bridge. This form has noticeable cognitive effects and according to studies, lowers LDL and triglycerides. Worth noting the disadvantage of Pantethine / Sulbutiamine / TTFD is that they may deplete glutathione due to the cleaving of the disulfide bridge, so ensuring that you eat a high micronutrient diet is necessary. That includes collagen intake!
Thank you for this! Honestly tho, don’t think we will ever know enough about the functions of the human body to fully understand the side effects of any supplementation that is outsized/unbalanced with other nutrients to some degree, or to know how higher doses of any one or few nutrients will effect any one individual. Scares me to add any significant amount of any nutrient by themselves. Seems to me best to just eat a diet that is as diverse and nutritious as you can manage, and if you have trouble absorbing nutrients (or just prefer to), take one or more balanced low-dose ( 100-200% of daily rec intake) iron-free multivitamin/mineral supplements, adding (trying one at a time) slightly more of any nutrients you think you have more of for your particular health issue, taking into consideration cofactors, adding iron separately as/if needed, taking regular breaks from supplements, and regularly testing blood levels of any higher dose nutrients you take if possible. It may take longer to get the desired effect going low and slow but I think the safer route. That said, finding high quality supplements with the appropriate doses /forms of nutrients of any kind (and keeping up with the latest research in what is considered the best form/dose) is the hard part. I have yet to find a single high quality low dose iron-free multivitamin/mineral supplement (tho perhaps harder for me than others as I need one iodine-free). Worth trying diff forms/brands in my experience. Ps potentially digestive enzymes short term or as needed can play a role for some individuals, to get the most out of the foods eaten
@Johnny Natural You must be lucky to have no severe genetic/nutritional imbalances that can cause anger! When I get low on methylation, possibly via acidosis (methionine/TMG/SAM-e helped, until I started taking bicarbonate and didn't need them anymore), I'd experience potent, bottled-up rage and resentment. Possibly also due to a slow COMT mutation backing up adrenaline, which needs methyls to clear the adrenaline. EDIT: I later learned this response is due to histamine. Low methylation = high histamine. This explains why taking TMG (three methyls) would help me immediately.
@@timothyTNM117- me too, same issue, plus 2 MTHFR mutations. I have late stage Lyme and FMS. I found that consuming something at least every 4 hrs. helped a LOT, despite normal blood sugars and normal HgbA1C so you wouldn't think that would be needed. The saying for this that I've heard is that: "The adrenal response is far too slow, far too strong, and far too long."
Chuck steak and lots of pasture raised raw egg yolks .......and, homemade raw milk kefir. That's what I consume daily. @ 63, I feel stronger and more alert than ever before. After watching this, I understand why I feel so good - Thank you for the info Elliot.
@@intuneorange This is old school thinking - fiber is actually bad for us. Keep studying this issue and learn the truth - you are still misled. I thought the same as you until I learned for myself. That's what this internet communication is good for, to seek the truth.
WARNING: Supplemental choline may cause dangerous heart arrhythmia. For me, there is a threshold though. Today i can safely eat 1 whole egg per day, but if i have 2 whole eggs per day, within a couple of weeks i begin to have very noticeable arrhythmia. I discovered the connection to choline mechanism by taking a choline supplement. Within a week, my heart became a bucking bronco of dangerous arrhythmia and put me in the ER. The solution was to eliminate foods containing choline. Horrible for me. I have been experimenting ever since with Acetyl L Carnitine and vitamin B5. I will cautiously try the others mentioned in this brilliant vid and report back.
I tried taking choline supplements and didn’t experience any benefits. But when I eat 4-5 eggs in a serving I notice brain improvements instantly. For those that think consuming too many eggs will cause issues there are plenty of tests and RUclips videos that demystified those concerns. Eggs are fine and can be consumed in large quantities. But obviously this is not a quick fix you still need to watch carb intake, get blood work to confirm vitamin levels, exercise more, pay attention to stress and sleep patterns etc etc etc to make sure your body is in an overall good state. I just wanted to share that consuming eggs boosted my choline levels practically instantly when I consumed them in larger quantities.
@@johnhurd3257 I tried alpha gpc, cdp choline,Phosphatidylcholine, plain choline. Like I said on other posts everyone’s brain is different. Eggs natural version of choline gives me better effects, no headaches and it’s just an better overall experience for ‘me’. Everyone has to try what works best for them.
Amazing info, Elliot! This has connected so many dots in my supplement experimentation for chronic inflammation, dysautonomia, and digestive issues. No wonder I feel so much better when I take extra B5. Proceeding with more supp tweaking.
Taking 500mg-1000mg per day of CDP choline will create a problem rather quickly, as the half life of CDP choline is about 60 hours, or 3 days! Be safe out there, ladies and gentlemen.
I noticed recently a list of nutrients women are likely to be deficient of on Eric Berg's channel and choline was either the top or second place. Four eggs yolks meet the recommended daily requirement. All the women in my family are terrified of cholesterol, have sugar/carb addiction, and display the dreaded 'karen' syndrome behavior.
They got it wrong about cholesterol, there is a good chance that avoiding cholesterol can create “karen syndrome” as hormone production would suffer or be imbalanced.
If only eggs were like they were before the chemicals. Something has changed in our usual choline sources that softens the positive effects we use to get back in the day. What the the doctor is suggesting feels like a miracle! All I can say is everyone over 50 should try it to see what's up. The only reason I tried it was to make sure it had a positive effect on cognition. I had no clue it would be so life changing in the best of ways.:)
If choline is water soluble, does that mean we should consume sources of it (eggs, liver, salmon) every single day? Is it not stored in the body? If levels are higher in the daytime, is it advised to consume choline in the morning? Can it keep us awake at night? I love your channel. Keep up your amazing work!
Excellent. There is another symptom of acetylcholine and that is massive mental exhaustion, a feeling that someone or something pulled the plug on mental energy.
I tried the choline supplements and a lot of eggs, and they drove me into deep depression. If you’re chemistry is similar to mine, watch out and check your feelings. Acetylcholine is bad for me, complete sadness and anxiety
Hi bro..grettings from Serbia.Qustion for you. I have Rodiola R 500mg Lions mane 300mg Cpd choline 250mg Tyrosine 1000mg How to shedulle them,can i take all tohether in morning and afternon,i get up early on 5 and go in bad evening about 11...also ise pheninut but not few times at week 2g...just tell me how would you recomand me to use this 4 nootropics.Also use kratom because i m a former addict so kratom saved my life.Thanks for advice
I take both CDPcholine and alpha GPC. I don’t notice any brain activity enhancement on CDPcholine BUT alpha GPC works absolutely great for me. For me, CDPcholine does its job only when it comes to work out at gym or jogging, not studying or focusing on my desk job (accounting) whereas alphaGPC does. Omega 3 is essential for me since it somehow calms me down at work or when studying for accounting certificate.
Great video and information. Thank you. Unfortunately the very people who need acetylcholine most tend to not tolerate it either. It's one of those tricky neurotransmitters which can be used for excitatory or calming functions and in my experiences with it in the mast cell and dysautonomia community, appears to want to increase excitatory functions. It's always a wonderful thing when people get to the point of tolerating it.
@ Lesly Rae - Both CDP choline and Alpha GPC did that to me also. I take benfotiamine daily and have for more than 10 years to prevent a return of Lyme uveitis, but it has not helped my memory. B5 did not help, and neither did Acetyl-L-carnosine. I've not tried Bacopa due to warnings that people who need thyroid hormone should not take it. I guess I need to eat more eggs. Dysautonomia and mast cell activation syndrome are also rampant in the Lyme and FMS community. I hope you find something that helps.
@@meagiesmuse2334 are you taking DHA & EPA? Elliot has a video where he mentions "therapeutic doses" of between 2 grams to 4 grams ... also, are you doing B-complex to support? and regarding B-12 do you take "Intrisic Factor" ? Or sublingual? (I take both - seems necessary) ...however I also eat mostly raw salmon, about 8 ounces a day, lamb, grassfed beef, organ meats, Ubiquinol... and quite a few others... Zero Carbohydrates, Zero seed oils...etc...
I have a B5 deficiency due to my microbiome hydrolyzing it, found this out through Viome. Since supplementing my sleep, cognition and skin have improved greatly.
Interestingly, my dog just had something like this test done and I thought to myself that there has to be a human version. I just looked it up. Would you recommend Viome? Did you do their basic test or include their others? Thank you! Glad I saw your comment :)
@@tammyritter1277 I have gotten the test three times in the past 4 years, yes I recommend it, just the gut test though. It's usually $100 off during the holidasys.
Thanks, good info and to the point. I rarely see people talk about kidney (organ meat) as a top source of dietary choline. Comparable to liver in many nutrients, but not so high in A and copper for those wanting to avoid overload.
I have few question about this: Those dosages you show at the end of your video are meant to be taken for a short period? At what time of the day is best to take such therapy? I've read on a pubmed report that acetylcholine is accumulated higher during the morning hours. Correct me if i'm wrong. I'm also reading, and here i quote: " ...racetams works to preserve acetylcholine regulation in instances of cognitive impairment such as deliriant intoxication or cognitive deficits associated with traumatic brain injury." - Aight, but do racetams works in the short term or in the long term? Can they be considered as a sort of "medication" like alpha GPC, choline etc etc? I couldn't find any report/ scientific research about those substances you mentioned that works to improve / preserve acetylcholine receptors, that tells if they have side effect in the long term. Example: the dosages can be overdosed or you can encounter any collateral effect? Hope you or someone else can reply to these questions. I'm working to improve my memory and cognitive functions as i was diagnosed dyslexic with a memory impairment and plus, drugs didn't help too. Thank you in advance.
*मैग्नीशियम: विटामिन डी व विटामिन बी के absorption में उसी प्रकार से सहायक होता है; जिस प्रकार कॉपर: आयरन व विटामिन सी के absorption में सहायक होता है। मैग्नीशियम हरी पत्तेदार सब्जियों, मोरिंगा, तुलसी, पुदीना इत्यादि में पर्याप्त मात्रा में पाया जाता है।*
@eonutrition Hello, I’ve listened to quite a few podcasts and videos with you recently and I have a question: can you please explain thiamine’s effect on glutamate? I’m someone who is very(!) sensitive to anything ‘gluta’ and I can’t take things like glutamine or if I have something with MSG in I react very very badly. Feelings of anxiety and very poor sleep. Can you please let me know if I dare to try B1 or will it go down the glutamate way and increase feelings of anxiety? Thank you so much.
Thiamine helps clear up excess glutamate by a few different mechanisms. One of the effects of thiamine deficiency in the brain is glutamate excitotoxicity
Thank you so much for your fast reply, I feel very grateful. If I interpret it in the right way (I’m from Sweden so English is my second language) taking thiamine can help me clear the glutamate and actually be very beneficial for me. Maybe it’s because I have a deficiency in thiamine that I react so strongly to MSG and things like glutathione and glutamine. I also can’t take anything glycine for instance, I have a magnesium glycinate supplement. If I take that at night I don’t sleep well at all that night. If I have an Epsom Salt bath at night I don’t sleep pretty much at all that night. Have you ever heard of something like this similar? Thank you again. Your knowledge is greatly valued all over the world.
I weigh 40kg ,5ft7, I'm 38, what's the lowest dose of benfoitamine I can start on for it to still have an affect on my weight loss , being very skinny and digestion issues and fatigue and brain fog since 20 years
@@MelOnaMissionthanks for your comment, I suffer if I have anything more than two raw egg yolks in a month... Like an all over body fever effect and worse .. this gives me hope that I may be able to again one day.!
My brain has never been great alive always had ADHD but I’m scared because my uncle died from Alzheimer’s. So I plan to be as proactive as possible against degenerative brain disease.
Talk to a doctor, a specialist , or ohuchistrist . Don try try things without informing youself . This might not help you at so you shouldn’t feel in obligation to do so.
Elliot, would you please address what someone said in the comments regarding having too much choline? How would one know when this is happening, and how might one avoid it? Also, please address how many medications fall under the category of “anticholinergic.” I’ve recently found that a great many prescription drugs have this side effect but the public are unaware. Coupled with the irrational and foolish advice against eggs, it’s the perfect storm for cognitive impairment and countless other downstream problems.
Is Calcium Citrate okay to take together with meals to limit/block oxalate absorption from foods? (for example with potato meals). Will Calcium Citrate build up in the body or get excreted? Will Magnesium Citrate have the same effect? How much to take with a meal to block oxalate absorption?
If it were me, I would not take any kind of calcium supplement. If you must eat oxalate-containing foods, have them with some kind of dairy product such as cheese. But my question to you is: Why do you want to consume harmful high oxalate-containing plants at all? They're not necessary in the diet...
@@hikari8858 My answer is because I love and enjoy chocolate and soy. the questioner Luca/Rr apparently loves and enjoys potatoes. As for me chocolate and soy are necessary, as I am intolerant of so many foods I find these are always safe.
Use Magnesium Citrate and unfortunately it will only block a percentage of oxalate intake (can't remember but i think it was around 25%) and for the calcium side, I would recommend food based only. You can also drink fresh squeezed lemon juice to assist in break down of oxalate.
Thanks Elliott. Really appreciate your videos and your presentation style. Great topic to cover. You should hook up again some time with Bart Kay. That was the first time I saw you present and I’m sure there will be many new subscribers of Bart that would also benefit from subbing to your channel.
Bacopa and ALCAR work great for me EXCEPT they turn me into an angry jerk. Thiamine seems to make me sleepy 2-3 hours after taking it along with Magtein (but I feel good). I stick to liver and eggs.
Hello! Why could I have eye twitching and weird forced alertness feeling? I sleep well, consume magnesium and b12. But once I started creatine I got this feeling and eye twitching, I stopped creatine but it didn't go away. It seems like B1 makes it worse but my brain works better from B1
Please can you do a deep dive on "wear and tear" arthritis of the hip. Conventional doctors just say wait for it to get bad enough then have a hip replacement! They tell my mother to rest and not move, but she will lose muscle. This time last year she was walking outdoors. Now still in her 50s, she's pain and getting less flexible and gaining weight. No advice on diet, fasting, body muscle to fat ratio, exercise, gut health or supplements etc. I feel taking high strength painkillers daily then other medications to mitigate the negative side effects of the painkillers on stomach and then layering that with advice to have a biscuit or toast doesn't seem to promote overall health. Pain management at any cost on full body health and quality of life.
From what Dr. Joel Wallach has said, very high dose gelatin can reverse cartilage damage/degradation. Beef gelatin can be bought as a pure powder and mixed with cold drinks or soup/broth. Or make a "healthier" version of jello, without sugar. He claimed that at least one person regrew either a shoulder or knee joint (I can't remember the medical name for it or which joint it was exactly) after surgery, which removed almost all the cartilage. He also claimed that someone else avoided double knee surgeries by doing the same, consuming large amounts of gelatin, iirc. Wallach does have a supplement company, but the info about the gelatin was offered freely.
Very good and informative video. However, I may mention one blind spot in the recommended supplements. All recommended supplements valid. The one supplements that could have been added is soy lecithin or sunflower lecithin for their phospholipid content.
NEVER TOUCH SOY IMO. It was considered a poison by the Chinese until 11th century when it was discovered that if you ferment soy for 5 years - it becomes safe to eat … even then, the Chinese only used a tiny amount. Today they heat the soy to a high temp and “claim” that this is equivalent to a 5 year fermentation …IT IS NOT. !!
Great, clearly explained info. I've had some issues with low Ach and have found Huperzine A to be most helpful myself. (It is an Ach esterase inhibitor, so slows the breakdown)
I wonder why galantamine wasn't mentioned, I am a complete novice at this but came across this video in my research on galantamine. thank you, wonderful video.
I've been having gallbladder symptoms (tightness, achy, headache, nausea/vomiting, right shoulder pain). After some looking online, I saw info that lecithin MAY help dissolve the fat/cholesterol of the stones and/or make them smaller. I ordered sunflower lecithin and egg yolk lecithin. I took 1 capsule of egg yolk lecithin for the first time today. Thinking lecithin contains choline, is this correct? Anyway, I hope this helps my current issue of gallbladder. Not telling anyone else to take it, but definitely read about it if needed. I don't want surgery but I don't want to suffer, either.
Our bodies are meant to heal. There are times we need to stop doing things, or change/add things to help it along. Surgery should be a last or emergency option, not the first or go-to.
You could also use Chanca Piedra (stone breaker), Coffee enema to stimulate bile release, amazing liver and gallbladder flush by Andreas Moritz and digestive enzymes. Since gallbladder problems always go hand in hand with liver problems to some extent, you could also benefit from milk thistle, choline, ox bile and tudca.
I hope you're gallbladder situation is better. For me, I found that I was having massive attacks due to milk casein. Strange but removing A1 dairy did the trick. Goat milk, A2 and ghee, no issues.
Would love to see a video on the inverse situation. I have excess acetylcholine, was diagnosed at a dysautonomia center with primary parasympathetic excess causing secondary sympathetic excess. And it lines up with my experience exactly.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5897318/ - In conclusions, these data showed that long term exposure to WiFi may lead to adverse effects such as neurodegenerative diseases as observed by a significant alteration on AChE gene expression and some neurobehavioral parameters associated with brain damage.
As someone who has been healing CIRS, including MCAS, that there is a fine line between increasing choline without triggering mast cells. I also have sulfur and sulfite issues which I’ve been healing but it has been a slow road. It seems triggering these pathways tamper with triggering mast cells.
I'm taking acotiamide (acofide) atm, that supposedly increases acetylcholine released for functional dyspepsia (aka indigestion). I'm just taking it for prokinetics purpose. Do you think it'll help me?
THC helps me quite a bit, especially with my anxiety, I've been trying delta 8, delta 10 and they do help, however , it does affect my short term memory. I've been feeling really dumb lately, cognitive issues, so I might give the eggs liver and salmon a good try. You are what you eat.
As I understand, the very inexpensive form of supplemental choline known as choline bitartrate does not cross blood brain barrier like the form you recommend in your video for enhancing brain AcetylCoA , but is it useful for making acetyl CoA in liver?
@@sumedhtayade4708 I take about 1/4-1/3 tsp of CB before meals with about the same amt alcar usually 2x/day especially if its a fatty meal. Occasionally ACV diluted instead.
I suffer from brain fog, lack of concentration and really annoying memory issues, Will taking Choline supplement cause the sticky blood condition or disease? is taking it considered safe knowing that I don't consume eggs or fish at all! and I don't eat chicken very regularly maybe once a week or so, I mainly only consume meat daily though with a lot of carbs like rice and bread.
I had a memorable experience using a lecithin granules product, which is a good source of Choline. I was working the graveyard shift at a convenient store/gas station, and as usual, did not get much sleep before going into work. Therefore I would drink the horrible coffee that was a store staple, just to keep awake through the night. On this particular night, I had consumed some lecithin with my coffee routine, and found myself cracking jokes with each new customer that entered the store. I felt somewhat gitty, and full of energy. My guess is that it had a lot to do with the coffe, but also the availability of choline for my neurotransmitters, that raised my mood to a level of almost the feeling of intoxication.😆👍🏼👍🏼🧠⚡⚡⚡⚡
Would you happen to know what foods contain lecithin? I have all kinds of mental health issues and am always willing to try something like a change in diet or an added supplement to help.
@@anastasiamurawski6179 I go to Whole Foods or Spouts and purchase a lecithin product. I like the granular version, just because you can add a little, or a little bit more, as you desire. Plus I like the creamy taste/texture that it gives to whatever you add it to. I like adding it to my oatmeal, or just a bowl of yogurt.😃👍🏼👍🏼
what do you think of this stack? Magnesium Threonate,Triglyceride Omega3, K2 200mg pregnenolone | Most Potent Neurosteroid Indol-3-Carbinol | inhibits harmfull estrogen signaling wich results from more pregnenolone Glutamic Acid 3,5g | BrainSpeed (Glutamate) [Works like crazy because of lithium deficiancy] Huperzin A | Focus (AcetylCholine) Uridin Monophosphat 475mg B1,B2,Pantethine, B6, B7, B9, B12
Damn man. My life is such a catch 22. Most of the B vitamins except B12 give me huge headaches if I take them more than one day in a row. I have actually been taking benfo and Allithiamine because of your channel for my mecfs, and they most def help, but I can only take them every 2nd or third day or the headaches come on.
@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago yes very concious of all that. My liver doesn't process anything well. I can take these special B's like twice a week and I do feel a benefit in energy etc, but no more or it's headache central.
@MelOnaMission For me I really don't tolerate Glutathione or NAC etc at all. But in this case it isn't the garlic because I smash loads of that into lots of things I cook with no problems. It's definitely all forms of most b vits, except B12.
It’s magnesium not thiamine… the High doses of thiamine are only needed in magnesium deficiency. Mast cells also degranulate in mg deficit. It’s all magnesium Elliot! Promise! Without enough the thiamine can’t do it’s job… how does one measure magnesium in the body? We can’t. Serum magnesium is useless. So how do we know there is enough mg in a body to utilise the thiamine? We don’t! Web search magnesium and acetylcholine. Find it for yourself. I appreciate every effort you make to heal x
No, it's not just magnesium. I've taken a lot of magnesium over the last several years. I've tried B vitamins, and they were no use until I took TMG daily. I have also taken benfotiamine, and it made very little difference. I just started taking TTFD form of thiamine today, and I felt it directly in energy, and also tingling in my trigeminal nerve...which has been dysfunctional for over 25 years. That tingling tells me there is a balancing, or healing, action going on.
Fursultiamine is more bio active than sulbutiamine. It is widely being used among college students and blue colour employees in Japan and Korea. Sulbutiamine is no way close to compete with Fursultiamine. Is Fursultiamine not being easily handy in western ?
Within 2 days of taking CPD Choline I literally felt a difference in my ability to think. I was diagnosed MCI (Mild Cognitive Impairment) three years ago. Between diet change (strict carnivore), nutrients including CPD Choline, and being introduced to virtual reality puzzle games by my psychologist daughter, I was able to get my memory and cognition back to where I was able to write my third book and publish it. I will continue this regiment for rest of my life!
How many milligrams a day?
Please advice what do u take
CDP choline at 200mgs a day is great! Alphagpc at 200mgs every morning even better imo!
Happy for you. Remember to do carnivore correctly too as most people are doing high protein moderate fat instead of high fat moderate protein
I am so happy for your success! Will you please share what brand and dosage you are taking. Thank you and prayers for continued success.
This video should be watched be everyone before they reach their senior years. Thank you for this vital information presented so succinctly!
Even after they reach the golden years.
This is one of the BEST RUclips channels out there.
Here are my ANECDOTAL "broscience" experiences on your recommendations:
Acetyl-L-Carnitine: I developed, and others I know personally, problems with controlling my anger while using this.
Sulbutiamine: Works great at first. No digestive problems. Builds up a strange type of tolerance that leads to a headache.
TTFD: Less "nootropic" effect than sulbutiamine. Sometimes gives minor odd aftertaste (that can last hours) if not consumed BEFORE food. The better form due to side effects simply presenting as higher metabolism.
Benfotiamine: Didn't notice any cognitive effects, likely requires a long time to kick in. Some people vouch for this form so I can't dismiss it outright.
Pantothenic Acid: A more bioavailable form is "Pantethine", which like Sulbutiamine, is two Pantothenic Acid molecules linked by a disulfide bridge. This form has noticeable cognitive effects and according to studies, lowers LDL and triglycerides.
Worth noting the disadvantage of Pantethine / Sulbutiamine / TTFD is that they may deplete glutathione due to the cleaving of the disulfide bridge, so ensuring that you eat a high micronutrient diet is necessary. That includes collagen intake!
Great info. Thx!
THANK YOU 👍👏🧡
Thank you for this! Honestly tho, don’t think we will ever know enough about the functions of the human body to fully understand the side effects of any supplementation that is outsized/unbalanced with other nutrients to some degree, or to know how higher doses of any one or few nutrients will effect any one individual. Scares me to add any significant amount of any nutrient by themselves.
Seems to me best to just eat a diet that is as diverse and nutritious as you can manage, and if you have trouble absorbing nutrients (or just prefer to), take one or more balanced low-dose ( 100-200% of daily rec intake) iron-free multivitamin/mineral supplements, adding (trying one at a time) slightly more of any nutrients you think you have more of for your particular health issue, taking into consideration cofactors, adding iron separately as/if needed, taking regular breaks from supplements, and regularly testing blood levels of any higher dose nutrients you take if possible. It may take longer to get the desired effect going low and slow but I think the safer route.
That said, finding high quality supplements with the appropriate doses /forms of nutrients of any kind (and keeping up with the latest research in what is considered the best form/dose) is the hard part. I have yet to find a single high quality low dose iron-free multivitamin/mineral supplement (tho perhaps harder for me than others as I need one iodine-free). Worth trying diff forms/brands in my experience.
Ps potentially digestive enzymes short term or as needed can play a role for some individuals, to get the most out of the foods eaten
@Johnny Natural You must be lucky to have no severe genetic/nutritional imbalances that can cause anger!
When I get low on methylation, possibly via acidosis (methionine/TMG/SAM-e helped, until I started taking bicarbonate and didn't need them anymore), I'd experience potent, bottled-up rage and resentment. Possibly also due to a slow COMT mutation backing up adrenaline, which needs methyls to clear the adrenaline.
EDIT: I later learned this response is due to histamine. Low methylation = high histamine. This explains why taking TMG (three methyls) would help me immediately.
@@timothyTNM117- me too, same issue, plus 2 MTHFR mutations. I have late stage Lyme and FMS. I found that consuming something at least every 4 hrs. helped a LOT, despite normal blood sugars and normal HgbA1C so you wouldn't think that would be needed. The saying for this that I've heard is that: "The adrenal response is far too slow, far too strong, and far too long."
Chuck steak and lots of pasture raised raw egg yolks .......and, homemade raw milk kefir. That's what I consume daily. @ 63, I feel stronger and more alert than ever before.
After watching this, I understand why I feel so good - Thank you for the info Elliot.
After a while you're going to have to eat some Fiber a lot of fiber from plants and if you can't do that you better take psyllium
@@intuneorange This is old school thinking - fiber is actually bad for us.
Keep studying this issue and learn the truth - you are still misled. I thought the same as you until I learned for myself. That's what this internet communication is good for, to seek the truth.
@@The1belal agree, fiber is killer for me
100mgs of alpha gpc might surprise you. I thought my mind was great and then I tried some gpc. So amazing ..beyond words.:)
@@johnhurd3257 What is gpc ?
WARNING: Supplemental choline may cause dangerous heart arrhythmia. For me, there is a threshold though. Today i can safely eat 1 whole egg per day, but if i have 2 whole eggs per day, within a couple of weeks i begin to have very noticeable arrhythmia. I discovered the connection to choline mechanism by taking a choline supplement. Within a week, my heart became a bucking bronco of dangerous arrhythmia and put me in the ER. The solution was to eliminate foods containing choline. Horrible for me. I have been experimenting ever since with Acetyl L Carnitine and vitamin B5. I will cautiously try the others mentioned in this brilliant vid and report back.
You may have minerals disbalance. For example Magnesium defficiency.
@@proudbacteria1373My thoughts Exactly! Magnesium supps cleared that up for Me quickly.✌️🙏
Yeah, something is not right there. I consumed 12 eggs a day for over 8 months without any issues like that.
try taking magnesium taurate.
@@Neon12J
I have 4 eggs at a sitting - discard a couple of the whites cos I eat lotsa meat …
Just LOVE eggs 💚💚
I tried taking choline supplements and didn’t experience any benefits.
But when I eat 4-5 eggs in a serving I notice brain improvements instantly. For those that think consuming too many eggs will cause issues there are plenty of tests and RUclips videos that demystified those concerns. Eggs are fine and can be consumed in large quantities. But obviously this is not a quick fix you still need to watch carb intake, get blood work to confirm vitamin levels, exercise more, pay attention to stress and sleep patterns etc etc etc to make sure your body is in an overall good state.
I just wanted to share that consuming eggs boosted my choline levels practically instantly when I consumed them in larger quantities.
You probably hadn't tried alpha gpc. It's a lot cheaper than eggs.:)
@@johnhurd3257 I tried alpha gpc, cdp choline,Phosphatidylcholine, plain choline. Like I said on other posts everyone’s brain is different. Eggs natural version of choline gives me better effects, no headaches and it’s just an better overall experience for ‘me’. Everyone has to try what works best for them.
Thanks.
Nothing like 12 raw eggs in the morning for energy and focus :D
@@theboraxbandit9563 just found out 6 eggs equals close to 5 grams of Glutamine✍️
Amazing info, Elliot! This has connected so many dots in my supplement experimentation for chronic inflammation, dysautonomia, and digestive issues. No wonder I feel so much better when I take extra B5. Proceeding with more supp tweaking.
Have your tried choline or acetyl l carnitine
@@sumedhtayade4708 Daily actually
B1 bentafotamine helps like a champ.:)
@@johnhurd3257how long can you take bentafotamine?
did it help with sleep and stress??
Great content, Elliot, as always. But please spare the music next time! Your videos don't need it and it makes your words hard to follow. 😘
i like the misic
Taking 500mg-1000mg per day of CDP choline will create a problem rather quickly, as the half life of CDP choline is about 60 hours, or 3 days! Be safe out there, ladies and gentlemen.
100mg everyday IMHO sweet spot
I noticed recently a list of nutrients women are likely to be deficient of on Eric Berg's channel and choline was either the top or second place. Four eggs yolks meet the recommended daily requirement. All the women in my family are terrified of cholesterol, have sugar/carb addiction, and display the dreaded 'karen' syndrome behavior.
They got it wrong about cholesterol, there is a good chance that avoiding cholesterol can create “karen syndrome” as hormone production would suffer or be imbalanced.
If only eggs were like they were before the chemicals.
Something has changed in our usual choline sources that softens the positive effects we use to get back in the day. What the the doctor is suggesting feels like a miracle! All I can say is everyone over 50 should try it to see what's up. The only reason I tried it was to make sure it had a positive effect on cognition. I had no clue it would be so life changing in the best of ways.:)
is it true karens like to be tied up and spanked?
eric berg isn't a doctor.
@@UUser1337 did you get that opinion approved by a fact checker?
Great to see new content from you Elliot!
I have Achlorhydria. First time ANYONE mentioned Choline's role in Stomach Acid production.
If choline is water soluble, does that mean we should consume sources of it (eggs, liver, salmon) every single day? Is it not stored in the body?
If levels are higher in the daytime, is it advised to consume choline in the morning? Can it keep us awake at night?
I love your channel. Keep up your amazing work!
Yes..maybe not daily but regularly through out the week maybe have a loading phase
I'm going to try this for cronic pain fo 20 years. I will let you know.
Love your work ma man.Stunning.Keep on the grind
Great seeing you again!! Awesome work. 🥰
Health Mantra: vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids, essential amino acids,
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Excellent. There is another symptom of acetylcholine and that is massive mental exhaustion, a feeling that someone or something pulled the plug on mental energy.
I tried the choline supplements and a lot of eggs, and they drove me into deep depression. If you’re chemistry is similar to mine, watch out and check your feelings.
Acetylcholine is bad for me, complete sadness and anxiety
Hi bro..grettings from Serbia.Qustion for you.
I have
Rodiola R 500mg
Lions mane 300mg
Cpd choline 250mg
Tyrosine 1000mg
How to shedulle them,can i take all tohether in morning and afternon,i get up early on 5 and go in bad evening about 11...also ise pheninut but not few times at week 2g...just tell me how would you recomand me to use this 4 nootropics.Also use kratom because i m a former addict so kratom saved my life.Thanks for advice
I take both CDPcholine and alpha GPC. I don’t notice any brain activity enhancement on CDPcholine BUT alpha GPC works absolutely great for me. For me, CDPcholine does its job only when it comes to work out at gym or jogging, not studying or focusing on my desk job (accounting) whereas alphaGPC does. Omega 3 is essential for me since it somehow calms me down at work or when studying for accounting certificate.
Good Omega 3 oil is a major stress fighter 👌🏼👌🏼
i read that CDP choline and alpha GPC work best when taking with b1 and b5
Thanks for this video Elliot. Always enjoy your enthusiastic delivery. 🎃
Great video and information. Thank you. Unfortunately the very people who need acetylcholine most tend to not tolerate it either. It's one of those tricky neurotransmitters which can be used for excitatory or calming functions and in my experiences with it in the mast cell and dysautonomia community, appears to want to increase excitatory functions. It's always a wonderful thing when people get to the point of tolerating it.
@ Lesly Rae - Both CDP choline and Alpha GPC did that to me also. I take benfotiamine daily and have for more than 10 years to prevent a return of Lyme uveitis, but it has not helped my memory. B5 did not help, and neither did Acetyl-L-carnosine. I've not tried Bacopa due to warnings that people who need thyroid hormone should not take it. I guess I need to eat more eggs. Dysautonomia and mast cell activation syndrome are also rampant in the Lyme and FMS community. I hope you find something that helps.
@@meagiesmuse2334 are you taking DHA & EPA? Elliot has a video where he mentions "therapeutic doses" of between 2 grams to 4 grams ... also, are you doing B-complex to support? and regarding B-12 do you take "Intrisic Factor" ? Or sublingual? (I take both - seems necessary) ...however I also eat mostly raw salmon, about 8 ounces a day, lamb, grassfed beef, organ meats, Ubiquinol... and quite a few others...
Zero Carbohydrates, Zero seed oils...etc...
@@1truthseeking8 - Yes, I take high EPA krill oil, B complex and B12 SL and COQ10 and many others.
in your experience if one starts low and slow with acetylcholine can it be tolerated?
@@philliproberts7179
Acetylcholine is for those who need it and its not for everyone . Just do your search .
I have a B5 deficiency due to my microbiome hydrolyzing it, found this out through Viome. Since supplementing my sleep, cognition and skin have improved greatly.
What is Viome?
Interestingly, my dog just had something like this test done and I thought to myself that there has to be a human version. I just looked it up. Would you recommend Viome? Did you do their basic test or include their others? Thank you! Glad I saw your comment :)
@@tammyritter1277 I have gotten the test three times in the past 4 years, yes I recommend it, just the gut test though. It's usually $100 off during the holidasys.
Thank you so much for replying! I'm going to do it then!
Genius!
Excellent presentation, appreciate the notes - I take screenshots for future perusal and shopping.
God bless you, Elliot.
🙏🏼💖
Very concise and crystal clear advice!! Much appreciated 🤓
Meowww
which should be taken during the day and which at night?
Thank you once again, Elliot!
Please continue your superb work man.
Brilliant video Elliot, much gratitude to you.
Thanks, good info and to the point. I rarely see people talk about kidney (organ meat) as a top source of dietary choline. Comparable to liver in many nutrients, but not so high in A and copper for those wanting to avoid overload.
btw. We are all deficient in copper and it is CRITICAL to our health !
Listen to MORLEY ROBBINS
I have few question about this:
Those dosages you show at the end of your video are meant to be taken for a short period? At what time of the day is best to take such therapy? I've read on a pubmed report that acetylcholine is accumulated higher during the morning hours. Correct me if i'm wrong.
I'm also reading, and here i quote: " ...racetams works to preserve acetylcholine regulation in instances of cognitive impairment such as deliriant intoxication or cognitive deficits associated with traumatic brain injury." - Aight, but do racetams works in the short term or in the long term? Can they be considered as a sort of "medication" like alpha GPC, choline etc etc?
I couldn't find any report/ scientific research about those substances you mentioned that works to improve / preserve acetylcholine receptors, that tells if they have side effect in the long term. Example: the dosages can be overdosed or you can encounter any collateral effect?
Hope you or someone else can reply to these questions. I'm working to improve my memory and cognitive functions as i was diagnosed dyslexic with a memory impairment and plus, drugs didn't help too.
Thank you in advance.
Great content. This was helpful. Have to turn on the notification bell. Loving the new set up btw. Thank you!
Thank you Elliot.excellent video.
*मैग्नीशियम: विटामिन डी व विटामिन बी के absorption में उसी प्रकार से सहायक होता है; जिस प्रकार कॉपर: आयरन व विटामिन सी के absorption में सहायक होता है। मैग्नीशियम हरी पत्तेदार सब्जियों, मोरिंगा, तुलसी, पुदीना इत्यादि में पर्याप्त मात्रा में पाया जाता है।*
Does Alpha GPC need to be taken first thing in the morning on an empty stomach?
@eonutrition Hello, I’ve listened to quite a few podcasts and videos with you recently and I have a question: can you please explain thiamine’s effect on glutamate? I’m someone who is very(!) sensitive to anything ‘gluta’ and I can’t take things like glutamine or if I have something with MSG in I react very very badly. Feelings of anxiety and very poor sleep. Can you please let me know if I dare to try B1 or will it go down the glutamate way and increase feelings of anxiety? Thank you so much.
Thiamine helps clear up excess glutamate by a few different mechanisms. One of the effects of thiamine deficiency in the brain is glutamate excitotoxicity
Thank you so much for your fast reply, I feel very grateful. If I interpret it in the right way (I’m from Sweden so English is my second language) taking thiamine can help me clear the glutamate and actually be very beneficial for me. Maybe it’s because I have a deficiency in thiamine that I react so strongly to MSG and things like glutathione and glutamine. I also can’t take anything glycine for instance, I have a magnesium glycinate supplement. If I take that at night I don’t sleep well at all that night. If I have an Epsom Salt bath at night I don’t sleep pretty much at all that night. Have you ever heard of something like this similar? Thank you again. Your knowledge is greatly valued all over the world.
I weigh 40kg ,5ft7, I'm 38, what's the lowest dose of benfoitamine I can start on for it to still have an affect on my weight loss , being very skinny and digestion issues and fatigue and brain fog since 20 years
@@EONutrition Ah, yes!!! That makes sense and why I can now handle eggs without getting a headache. And no more glutamate overstimulation. Brilliant!
@@MelOnaMissionthanks for your comment, I suffer if I have anything more than two raw egg yolks in a month... Like an all over body fever effect and worse .. this gives me hope that I may be able to again one day.!
I'm happy to see you're back!
Thanks Elliot!!
Thanks for the insight! Good info. Also - whats the background music if I may ask? Love it!
My brain has never been great alive always had ADHD but I’m scared because my uncle died from Alzheimer’s.
So I plan to be as proactive as possible against degenerative brain disease.
Try Lithium Orotate
@@anguslean4058 is that a prescription
Talk to a doctor, a specialist , or ohuchistrist . Don try try things without informing youself . This might not help you at so you shouldn’t feel in obligation to do so.
@@galpinklilyempire6905 I have no idea what an ohuchitrist is??
Are you on B1 constantly, Elliott?
Elliot, would you please address what someone said in the comments regarding having too much choline? How would one know when this is happening, and how might one avoid it?
Also, please address how many medications fall under the category of “anticholinergic.” I’ve recently found that a great many prescription drugs have this side effect but the public are unaware. Coupled with the irrational and foolish advice against eggs, it’s the perfect storm for cognitive impairment and countless other downstream problems.
the bi-directional effect of the gut microbiome should also be considered
Hey Elliott, your going to be a super star sir!
Is Calcium Citrate okay to take together with meals to limit/block oxalate absorption from foods? (for example with potato meals).
Will Calcium Citrate build up in the body or get excreted?
Will Magnesium Citrate have the same effect?
How much to take with a meal to block oxalate absorption?
If it were me, I would not take any kind of calcium supplement. If you must eat oxalate-containing foods, have them with some kind of dairy product such as cheese. But my question to you is: Why do you want to consume harmful high oxalate-containing plants at all? They're not necessary in the diet...
@@hikari8858 My answer is because I love and enjoy chocolate and soy. the questioner Luca/Rr apparently loves and enjoys potatoes. As for me chocolate and soy are necessary, as I am intolerant of so many foods I find these are always safe.
Use Magnesium Citrate and unfortunately it will only block a percentage of oxalate intake (can't remember but i think it was around 25%) and for the calcium side, I would recommend food based only. You can also drink fresh squeezed lemon juice to assist in break down of oxalate.
Very Good Elliot. A carnivore diet with eggs should go a long ways in providing some of these nutrients, especially L Carnitine.
Dale M. I just replied about this and then saw your reply - Yes carni is awesome !
What about taking phosphatidylcholine? Or lecithin?
Nice yes
Well done ! I have read an article about the possibility of B1 cause cancer, can you please make a video about this? Very confusing...
😮
No I very much doubt it
Thanks Elliott. Really appreciate your videos and your presentation style. Great topic to cover. You should hook up again some time with Bart Kay. That was the first time I saw you present and I’m sure there will be many new subscribers of Bart that would also benefit from subbing to your channel.
Bacopa and ALCAR work great for me EXCEPT they turn me into an angry jerk. Thiamine seems to make me sleepy 2-3 hours after taking it along with Magtein (but I feel good). I stick to liver and eggs.
Excellent video appreciate your research !!
Hello! Why could I have eye twitching and weird forced alertness feeling? I sleep well, consume magnesium and b12. But once I started creatine I got this feeling and eye twitching, I stopped creatine but it didn't go away. It seems like B1 makes it worse but my brain works better from B1
Please can you do a deep dive on "wear and tear" arthritis of the hip. Conventional doctors just say wait for it to get bad enough then have a hip replacement!
They tell my mother to rest and not move, but she will lose muscle. This time last year she was walking outdoors. Now still in her 50s, she's pain and getting less flexible and gaining weight.
No advice on diet, fasting, body muscle to fat ratio, exercise, gut health or supplements etc.
I feel taking high strength painkillers daily then other medications to mitigate the negative side effects of the painkillers on stomach and then layering that with advice to have a biscuit or toast doesn't seem to promote overall health. Pain management at any cost on full body health and quality of life.
From what Dr. Joel Wallach has said, very high dose gelatin can reverse cartilage damage/degradation. Beef gelatin can be bought as a pure powder and mixed with cold drinks or soup/broth. Or make a "healthier" version of jello, without sugar. He claimed that at least one person regrew either a shoulder or knee joint (I can't remember the medical name for it or which joint it was exactly) after surgery, which removed almost all the cartilage. He also claimed that someone else avoided double knee surgeries by doing the same, consuming large amounts of gelatin, iirc. Wallach does have a supplement company, but the info about the gelatin was offered freely.
@@w1975b thanks for sharing this information. Do you know what specific amount of gelatin per day is considered large amount. Thanks 😊
@@Nnayahel7788 I'm sorry, I don't know what is considered a large amount. Maybe you can find something by searching Dr. Joel Wallach's videos.
@@w1975b thanks for replying 🙂 I did check for videos but haven't came across any information on the amount yet. I will let you know if I do.
Excellent post~ quite informative. Thank you!
Very good and informative video. However, I may mention one blind spot in the recommended supplements. All recommended supplements valid. The one supplements that could have been added is soy lecithin or sunflower lecithin for their phospholipid content.
NEVER TOUCH SOY IMO.
It was considered a poison by the Chinese until 11th century when it was discovered that if you ferment soy for 5 years - it becomes safe to eat … even then, the Chinese only used a tiny amount.
Today they heat the soy to a high temp and “claim” that this is equivalent to a 5 year fermentation …IT IS NOT. !!
Great, clearly explained info. I've had some issues with low Ach and have found Huperzine A to be most helpful myself. (It is an Ach esterase inhibitor, so slows the breakdown)
What's your therapy with Huperzine A, if i may ask. I'm using it too with also alpha gpc.
I wonder why galantamine wasn't mentioned, I am a complete novice at this but came across this video in my research on galantamine.
thank you, wonderful video.
'cuz galantamine need a prescripton. It's not easy to get it.
I've been having gallbladder symptoms (tightness, achy, headache, nausea/vomiting, right shoulder pain). After some looking online, I saw info that lecithin MAY help dissolve the fat/cholesterol of the stones and/or make them smaller. I ordered sunflower lecithin and egg yolk lecithin. I took 1 capsule of egg yolk lecithin for the first time today. Thinking lecithin contains choline, is this correct? Anyway, I hope this helps my current issue of gallbladder. Not telling anyone else to take it, but definitely read about it if needed. I don't want surgery but I don't want to suffer, either.
Our bodies are meant to heal. There are times we need to stop doing things, or change/add things to help it along. Surgery should be a last or emergency option, not the first or go-to.
For gallstones, look for an herbal supplement called chanca piedra, aka “The Stone Breaker.” Works wonders!
Yes good I did the same thing for the same ptoblems
You could also use Chanca Piedra (stone breaker), Coffee enema to stimulate bile release, amazing liver and gallbladder flush by Andreas Moritz and digestive enzymes.
Since gallbladder problems always go hand in hand with liver problems to some extent, you could also benefit from milk thistle, choline, ox bile and tudca.
I hope you're gallbladder situation is better. For me, I found that I was having massive attacks due to milk casein. Strange but removing A1 dairy did the trick. Goat milk, A2 and ghee, no issues.
Would love to see a video on the inverse situation. I have excess acetylcholine, was diagnosed at a dysautonomia center with primary parasympathetic excess causing secondary sympathetic excess. And it lines up with my experience exactly.
Did you also test for cholinesterase enzymes?
One thing is sure do not try to supplement thiamine because this is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor
similar situation, I think I have excess acetylcholine because choline boosting supplements make me feel like crap
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5897318/ - In conclusions, these data showed that long term exposure to WiFi may lead to adverse effects such as neurodegenerative diseases as observed by a significant alteration on AChE gene expression and some neurobehavioral parameters associated with brain damage.
I have dysautonomia (POTS) and am coninced I'm short on acetylcholine. Smh. We're a complicated mess.
As someone who has been healing CIRS, including MCAS, that there is a fine line between increasing choline without triggering mast cells. I also have sulfur and sulfite issues which I’ve been healing but it has been a slow road. It seems triggering these pathways tamper with triggering mast cells.
I received the supplements today im gonna start cutting half every day. Still don't know what r the other mineral to get
I'm taking acotiamide (acofide) atm, that supposedly increases acetylcholine released for functional dyspepsia (aka indigestion). I'm just taking it for prokinetics purpose. Do you think it'll help me?
Excellent information
Thank you 😊
I have found the most amazing results with delta 8 THC in a liposomal form. No brain fog...neuro placiticity
THC helps me quite a bit, especially with my anxiety, I've been trying delta 8, delta 10 and they do help, however , it does affect my short term memory. I've been feeling really dumb lately, cognitive issues, so I might give the eggs liver and salmon a good try. You are what you eat.
Do you take all the supplements at once?
My doubt too
great info mate - and I always appreciate the circadian cameos.
As I understand, the very inexpensive form of supplemental choline known as choline bitartrate does not cross blood brain barrier like the form you recommend in your video for enhancing brain AcetylCoA , but is it useful for making acetyl CoA in liver?
I take choline bitartrate before eating and helps my digestion. If the gut is happy the brain is happier. Interesting question.
I read that choline bitartrate DOES form acetylcholine.
@@harmonic3350 how much choline bitartrate do you take daily and do you take any other supplements along with it ??
@@sumedhtayade4708 I take about 1/4-1/3 tsp of CB before meals with about the same amt alcar usually 2x/day especially if its a fatty meal. Occasionally ACV diluted instead.
@@sumedhtayade4708 ...also alpha GPC in AM.
When you say focus, what do you mean? I find the concept is poorly described by most people.
This is awesomely powerful and essential information for everyone. Thank you so much for doing the hard work 🙏 🙌
Would taking allithiamine still work to a degree for the mental effects, or just not as good as benfotiamine and salbuthiamine
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Thank you so much for this help.
You're nuts, Elliot. Would love to see you do a video on racetams
Thank you. God bless you. 🙏🤍✨
Other Vitamins like Vitamin B1 for brain tonic !
Thanks for the information
B 5 vitamin. Carnitine solution for. Brains & gut ?
I suffer from brain fog, lack of concentration and really annoying memory issues, Will taking Choline supplement cause the sticky blood condition or disease? is taking it considered safe knowing that I don't consume eggs or fish at all! and I don't eat chicken very regularly maybe once a week or so, I mainly only consume meat daily though with a lot of carbs like rice and bread.
Talk to a phychistrist . Or nutriolosit . Phychologist .
You NEED to drop ALL the carboNhydrates garbage ...carbage... And go high fat Carnivore... If you want to really live.
How much for each of these, when taken …?
Good graphics. Thanks.
Every type of choline makes me extremely depressed. Any idea why that is or what I can do to prevent it?
This sounds like you could be dealing with over-methylation.
I heard somewhere that it is good to take it vith B5. Maybe that will prevent the depression but dont know for sure.
I had a memorable experience using a lecithin granules product, which is a good source of Choline.
I was working the graveyard shift at a convenient store/gas station, and as usual, did not get much sleep before going into work.
Therefore I would drink the horrible coffee that was a store staple, just to keep awake through the night. On this particular night, I had consumed some lecithin with my coffee routine, and found myself cracking jokes with each new customer that entered the store. I felt somewhat gitty, and full of energy. My guess is that it had a lot to do with the coffe, but also the availability of choline for my neurotransmitters, that raised my mood to a level of almost the feeling of intoxication.😆👍🏼👍🏼🧠⚡⚡⚡⚡
Would you happen to know what foods contain lecithin? I have all kinds of mental health issues and am always willing to try something like a change in diet or an added supplement to help.
@@anastasiamurawski6179 I go to Whole Foods or Spouts and purchase a lecithin product. I like the granular version, just because you can add a little, or a little bit more, as you desire. Plus I like the creamy taste/texture that it gives to whatever you add it to. I like adding it to my oatmeal, or just a bowl of yogurt.😃👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you so much. 🙏✨
الاتفاق والأخلاق
الصراحة والسماحة 🦋🕋🦋❤
Thank you
God bless you 🙂
Choline, Choline, Choline, Choline, I'm begging you, please do heal my brain.
(Sung to the melody of 'Jolene')
can we take bacopa herbal medicine and citicholine simultaneously with time gap between two?
what do you think of this stack?
Magnesium Threonate,Triglyceride Omega3, K2
200mg pregnenolone | Most Potent Neurosteroid
Indol-3-Carbinol | inhibits harmfull estrogen signaling wich results from more pregnenolone
Glutamic Acid 3,5g | BrainSpeed (Glutamate) [Works like crazy because of lithium deficiancy]
Huperzin A | Focus (AcetylCholine)
Uridin Monophosphat 475mg
B1,B2,Pantethine, B6, B7, B9, B12
Thank you!!! 💕
God bless
Damn man. My life is such a catch 22. Most of the B vitamins except B12 give me huge headaches if I take them more than one day in a row. I have actually been taking benfo and Allithiamine because of your channel for my mecfs, and they most def help, but I can only take them every 2nd or third day or the headaches come on.
Are you getting enough magnesium or mineral intake? That could be a factor.
@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago yes very concious of all that. My liver doesn't process anything well. I can take these special B's like twice a week and I do feel a benefit in energy etc, but no more or it's headache central.
@@chriseraphim huh ... I'm sorry to hear that. I wonder what the root cause could be .... Not heavy metals toxicity u think?
I found that allithiamine was a nope for me because garlic is high thiol, in relation to my heavy metal toxicity. Something to consider.
@MelOnaMission For me I really don't tolerate Glutathione or NAC etc at all. But in this case it isn't the garlic because I smash loads of that into lots of things I cook with no problems. It's definitely all forms of most b vits, except B12.
Elliot, you never finished your SECOND PART video on adrenal health!
Exactly what I need to do
would magnesium threonate help?
...how to repair the broken circadian
Normal people: this nutrient is important.
EONutrition: this nutrient is EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMLY important
It’s magnesium not thiamine… the High doses of thiamine are only needed in magnesium deficiency. Mast cells also degranulate in mg deficit. It’s all magnesium Elliot! Promise! Without enough the thiamine can’t do it’s job… how does one measure magnesium in the body? We can’t. Serum magnesium is useless. So how do we know there is enough mg in a body to utilise the thiamine? We don’t! Web search magnesium and acetylcholine. Find it for yourself. I appreciate every effort you make to heal x
Magnesium is the key to a lot of things in the human body.
No, it's not just magnesium. I've taken a lot of magnesium over the last several years. I've tried B vitamins, and they were no use until I took TMG daily. I have also taken benfotiamine, and it made very little difference. I just started taking TTFD form of thiamine today, and I felt it directly in energy, and also tingling in my trigeminal nerve...which has been dysfunctional for over 25 years. That tingling tells me there is a balancing, or healing, action going on.
@@creatuitiveguru do you take magnesium in liquid or powder form? I have heard that magnesium oxide is very badly absorbed and not worth buying.
@@paulbirkbeck1790 I take capsules. Magnesium Glycinate.
may i know what form of magnesium works best in Thiamine? Threonate? Taurate?
Fursultiamine is more bio active than sulbutiamine. It is widely being used among college students and blue colour employees in Japan and Korea. Sulbutiamine is no way close to compete with Fursultiamine. Is Fursultiamine not being easily handy in western ?
What brand?
I am looking for some that has NO FILLERS OR ORHER INGREDIENTS...
I took cpd choline and alcar and it put me in a serious depression and anxiety episode that only goes away when I use l tyrosine
Great video.