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Adding A Second Penstock To My Off Grid Hydroelectric Turbine (Survey)
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2022
- In this video I survey the second water source on my land and go through all the numbers and the plan for the new addition.
The first 5 minutes covering handmade survey equipment is an invaluable lesson for the DIY set. Loved that you mentioned the upgrade was partly driven by image to customers! This dispels the notion that one needs high tech tools to do the job. Thank you Kris.
“Sunday winter morning...” what happiness, everything is green and there is no snow!!! Your work is very interesting, and I always watch videos about it with great interest.
Kris another thought you might be able to save the Oak by cutting the trunk at five feet above the root bole cleaning up the hole it left spreading compost in the hole and winching the stump upright. Come spring the stump should generate shoots and by the time the tree is big enough to need a large root system they should have already regrown to match. I have seen this work with other oaks in wet environments.In about ten years selective pruning should supply you with poles for fencing or fire wood and future generations with a chunky oak tree to marvel at not forgetting wild life habitat and carbon uptake
That would make an interesting video to follow! Would be great if it worked
I've seen some pretty good saves when it comes to uprooted trees on public television. This is bigger than usual but I think it could work. Very cool idea!
i've seen that with other species of trees.......but oak!?
think it depends on type/variant of oak.
in germany i've never seen oak doin that. may we have the wrong oaks over here!
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I don't see that working with a tree that big, especially not an oak.
@@t.r.l.4377 Oak not the best tree species for this type of rescue, but can be done, if not left too long exposed to the air, this tree stands a fair chance as it still has much soil around it's root bole.Providing Kris follows some basic rules it will have a fair crack at the next thousand years.
Your cat following you arround is absolutely precious.
This is why I have a positive outlook for the future. Young people doing genius things.
I’m retired from the pump industry. This takes me back. I could mail you a slide rule that calculates friction loss and flow rates if you could use it.
Love the opening of this video where you explain the difference between your first methods and your current one. "You can do what I'm doing today with a stick with some graduations on it , a bit of clear tube and some tape." :) Fun to see how we make everything just more complicated, difficult and thus specialized where pretty much anyone should be able to do the job.
Chris, for the survey you should try the following. Set up your level and then site Dot. Dot stays where she is and you then move the level downstream. Now site Dot again without her moving. You now keep the level in the same position and Dot now moves downstream and you take a site again. Keep doing this foresight and then backsight procedure until the end, and try to keep the distance for each siting about the same. Using this method is closer to the industry standard for a levelling survey, plus you do not need to measure the height of the level each time. Backsight / foresight will cancel the height of the level and you then only need the start and terminal height. Hope that makes sense. All the best, Tim
Just wondering why altimeters aren't used for this application, I (rightly or wrongly) assumed that they exist with a high enough resolution?
Thanks Tim, a few people have recommended that now, I will give it a go.
Harrison, they can be used for a very rough estimate but the accuracy is no where near good enough for surveying a hydro system.
I didn't know altimeter were too inaccurate, I also don't know if relative altimeter exist that would just measure a change in altitude instead if an absolute value above sea level?
More detailed instructions for this process (differential leveling) can be found in any basic surveying text (or free on youtube). With your equipment and proper field procedures, there's no reason you can't achieve mm-level relative accuracies (surveyors can achieve sub-mm accuracies over several kilometers of measurements). For a quick field-check of your measurements at each sighting, I recommend 3-wire leveling (reading all three wires and ensuring the difference between top-middle and middle-bottom wires is within a mm or two)
The smaller pipe definitely makes more sense. btw I've really enjoyed this video Kris I've not really paid too much attention to this type hydro technology but I found you did a great job educating those like myself who aren't familiar with this field of technology. So ignore any trolls that tries to trash what your doing most of them are most likely just jealous of your success. Cheers bud.
I agree, WELL SAID. Kris has presented an excellent tutorial. This guy gave up a high paying career to show the world that you can live comfortably off the land with out destroying our environment.
Well done, Kris. I think you are a real trier.
Thanks Kris, fascinating! The maths make me dizzy and its great to know there are people such as yourself who take the whole process in their stride.
Hey Kris. Check out > Awesome Low Head High Flow Grid Tie Micro Hydro 530 watts! < on youtube. Instead of adding another pipe to the nozzle you could simply add the Low Head High Flow by having a 2>3 meter drop on the end of the pipe. Plz check it out.
@@rogerdeane3608 Never got that vibe. First video I saw of his he said he had never really made that much money. That was the vibe I got from him, never that he was rich. Although I will say he's literally paying thousands probably every month to buy all this equipment, but he works constantly. I doubt he ever takes a break.
Absolutely brilliant. Never be ashamed of your equipment. You are more intelligent than 95% of the folks you deal with. All that glitters is not gold.
I'm one of the number lovers - so keep it up as far as I'm concerned!
As for the next part, my intention isn't to be "that guy", just some advice I have learned over the years doing archaeological surveys. Firstly, your surveying methods are perfectly fine for your needs, where if you're +-20cm over a 200m run, you're happy. But if you want to look even more professional, you can do a more accurate levelling survey by having the rodman stand at the start, and you put the level about halfway between that point and the next one you want to survey, you then sight up to the rod and note that height. The rodman then moves to the next point and you keep the level exactly where it is, you swing it around at take a measurement off the rod. Then by subtracting the second reading from the first, you get the difference in height without having to measure the height of the instrument. You can then leapfrog the instrument down to the next point, take a back-sight off the rod, the rodman leapfrogs over you, and so on. You end up with fewer sights overall because the rod can move from one extreme to the other.
A couple of other tips: take a spirit level with you to level the tripod before putting the instrument on it. you don't have to be super accurate, but it saves time adjusting the tribrach, especially when you realise you have reached the end of a screw and so have to wind it back, reseat the tripod and start again. Also, if the staff doesn't have a bubble level, the rodman should gently rock the staff back and forth and the surveyor reads off the highest value. Finally, and I don't think you're guilty of this, always put the instrument in its box when moving from point to point. I have seen people just sling the tripod with the instrument still attached over their shoulder and go yomping off. It gives me the heebies just thinking about it!
Something I have just thought of - and I've not tried this mind - is to use the barometer in your phone. Get an app that gives you the pressure and ideally altitude, take a reading at the head, and another at the bottom, and you subtract one from the other. They're really surprisingly precise, to within a handful of cm, assuming the atmospheric pressure doesn't change too quickly. And you're only interested in a difference of altitude, so you won't need to calibrate it to the local QNH or anything.
Thanks for the info. that does make sense. Its not always possible though as I often have to move every time in order to be able to see the stick as its often very wooded and winding terrain. but when I can I will use that method now. Thanks
Soo..the crucial question is - is it a rod or a staff or a stick......?!?!
@@andymccabe6712 If you want to sound professional, it's a levelling staff. If you want to get the job done, it's a stick.
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Also to calculate the distance : in the visors there are 2 extra lines. Subtract the measurements from them and multiply by 100 (should by written in the manuall) normally that would give the distance in cm
@@andymccabe6712 Rod's the member of staff who holds the stick isn't he? lol
You are an inspiration young man. I am 71 years old and glad to see a young person so well rounded keep it up I 'll keep on watching. God Bless you Jim from the u.s.a.
Kris, I could listen to you talk all day about the environment and our impact on it. Great video.
favourite youtuber of all time - great content - love hearing the different colloquial expressions - delightful
Hi Kris, Awesome channel. Top skills btw. I used to do a lot of surveying back in the day. When using an optical level you don't need to use a tape measure to measure the height of the instrument - just get Dot to stand at the top of the penstock location with the staff and sight back uphill to it (backsight). This gives you the height of the cross hairs above the ground where the staff is. Then turn and sight downhill to the next staff location (foresight). Foresight minus backsight gives you the difference in height between the two staff locations. Then backsight to the second staff location...ad-infinitum down your penstock. Top tip - if you keep your Backsights and Foresights roughly the same length (Get Dot to count paces to the instrument and away again), then any error in your instrument gets cancelled out. Also, if Dot rocks the staff backwards and forwards, you know when you see the lowest reading on the staff - that is when the staff is exactly vertical. You can check your instrument accuracy by doing a two-peg test. You can verify your whole survey by going back uphill to the top of the penstock again and seeing if you get back to the same level. Hope it helps. Regards, David
The numbers actually give a great perspective on the entire project and explain the value of the decisions you have made. 100% worthwhile to listen to :)
The water level with a stick was good enough for the Romans and the Ancient Greeks. Well done lad.
Kris: You are clearly a meaningfully important *fraction of our Thomas Jefferson,* a genuine man through his usefullness to everyone. He, like you, a life's improver but of so far back in our American past, too far now it seems. Your connectively technical, accessibly plain-spoken presentations of culturally important systems and techniques resonate the rest of us into demanding in ourselves fulfilling and uplifting days of usefulness.
awesome, remember asking about an update on the flow expansion quite some time ago. this should really enable you to keept those batteries at an optinal SoC on heavy Machining&Plasma Cutting Sessions :)
I just love what you Brit's call "Winter." It's cute. In North Dakota, it isn't winter until body parts start falling off.
You made it very clear how to measure for hydro power installation. Since I have no creeks available to me, here in Arizona, I won't be able to use that information practically. Building power systems are intriguing to me. Thanks. Love your videos.
this young man is one of the most Brillant people on you tube. I am absolutely impressed with his solving problems and the ability to manufacture complex machines. Genius!
Dot is an absolute treasure. You're a very lucky guy.
Fascinating, all of the considerations that go into determining what the specs on a system need to be for maximum efficiency! Clearly presented, really, since I'm terrible at math and I understood the basics of what is going on! Thanks for your channel.
As a complete ignoramus, I agree. Even I could understand what Kris was trying to explain. It's great when somebody like him, who knows what he is doing, takes the time to explain, in clear language, what he does to arrive at the conclusions he does. If only we had politicians who could express themselves as clearly!
Thanks for taking the time to explain this process. It’s informative and even if I never do what you do I welcome the knowledge. Keep doing what your doing it’s great. And we love your lack of negativity your present. I’m sure it’s not every day and every moment but in this bonkers world it’s very welcome. Enjoyed the wandering puss too.
Thanks for the ten minutes of numbers! I'm not looking to build a hydro electric system, but I do like numbers.
Anyone who has knowledge on an interesting topic and can explain it well is worth listening to.
You explained it well. I especially enjoyed hearing the problem solving options around maximum power output weighed against the increased cost of materials.
If nothing else I learned there is a lot more to it than just pointing water at a turbine.
I have a small homestead in Vermont USA. Solar power, gardens and fruit trees, chickens, barn with woodworking space. I've lived here for almost 2 decades and I'm not done with projects I've been planning for 10+ years. (Extreme cold winters and feet of snow slow down the pace for sure)
I enjoy your videos for the amount of effort you put into each project and seeing how long it takes to see things through. I also like the numbers you throw in. For example: you expanded your garden and calculated the new garden bed will produce X amount of additional kilos food. You had an actual number for the kilos of food produced per square meter of garden.
I look at a garden bed and think "Yay more room for tomatillos!"
Keep up the awesome videos!
Please don't run out of projects so we can keep getting videos with numbers
Thanks for posting and sharing. Kudos to your family for showing how the measurements are taken.
Outstanding video. I have seen quite a few build videos, but I don't remember anyone going into any detail about their cost/benefit analysis before. I very much enjoyed it. Thank you!
Absolutely enjoying your channel,fascinating all the issues,the problems that go with the projects,brilliant,thanks for the video.
Loving the numbers and conclusions! Thanks.
Loved this video. Especially all the detail and math. My favorite part was seeing through the survey viewfinder. Thank you!
Fantastic, thank you for reviewing the breakdown. Math is life
I have enjoyed learning about alternative energy solutions from your channel. thank you .
I think you should show up with the old sighting equipment because it looks like witchcraft. lol Love what you're doing and keep up the hard work.
Sounds like you have really good neighbors. While its always a blessing to have those, it is especially true if you live a somewhat unconventional lifestyle. Puss Puss is quite the companion around the Hundred Acre Wood. My cats couldn't be bothered getting off the sofa. Always enjoy the videos Kris!
Very impressive and extremely professional I wish you every success with your hydro electric business moving forward 👍
I wish you were teaching this to students. You know your information and can explain it very well and in a way that even I can understand. This is a gift. Thank you I wish I lived in a area with natural stream. God bless you and your endeavors.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this Kris!
Fascinating video! Living in California means I’ll likely never be able to build a hydro system myself (serious lack of rain), but seeing how this all works is awesome. Thanks as always for sharing!
You probably have enviable opportunities for solar tho.
@@twestgard2 Yeah, definitely good solar here.
Excellent presentation, observations and conclusions 🙂 I'm really enjoying your videos. Great work!
Truly outstanding content! Literally nothing else like it out there when considering the whole series, detailed but simplistic and the commentary with the video of the system in construction and operation is what you don't get from all the University and scholars papers. If your situation allows, have you considered guest lecturing/field visits for university courses in Hydro? I doubt there would be many more effective ways of leaning than seeing the principals in action and hearing from the hand who put it all together. Love what you're doing and good luck with the rest of the journey. I'll be watching every week.
That's a neat summary to give to a customer showing how much energy it uses and saves.
Quality cat content, thanks. :)
Seriously though, I don’t know anything about building or energy (or running water, really; except, you know, faucets?) but I hugely enjoy watching smart people at work. Thanks for showing us your skills and your learning!
I enjoy being edujmicated and entertained, more to this than meets the eye. another great vid, thanks. 👨🎓👍
Great info. I enjoyed it and now know a lot more about measuring and calculating. You are a good teacher.
I appreciate the surveying lesson and the decision making process details! Thanks. 👍️
You explain things so well, that even I can understand what you're doing!
I am not a number cruncher, but I don't let that scare me from following a line of thought. As far as education and entertainment goes I thought this video fills a void. I had some "Ah-Hah!" moments! Need to read up on what MPPT controller does, it's function and why it is used over other controllers. Very interesting and informative. Thank you. And tip 'o the hat to your lovely assistant, Dot! My! What a beautiful sweater! Cheers!
9:20 I always wanted to see how the engineering level really works. Thanks for showing it. Cheers!
Thanks for explaining that, Kris. I followed along a lot better than I did in previous explanations. Everything made sense. You're looking good and professional! Your hard work is paying off already. It's always lovely to see Dot and the little Tiger too!
Kriis I know nothing about turbines but understood everything you said. Thats so good and the fact that the other turbines will pick up more energy fantastic report.
Really great stuff. Always good to hear numbers and put it into perspective!
Kris, that was absolutely fascinating. Thank you for such an informative video….. great content as usual.
A lot to consider before embarking on this sort of project. Thank you Kris for demystifying this huge potential subject in just over half an hour, very valuable.
Very Cool INFO, I had no idea it would be this much detail, you obviously now what you are doing, Kris !
Interesting Technology,
Thanks for sharing
Great info - very interesting and well explained (from a retired civil/mechanical engineer) - John Donovan's advice on surveying is spot on
All l can say is it is impressive. Your report was brief, clear and concise. Good luck Chris!
One of your best video's yet 👍🏼Thanks for the clear explanation and your honesty about what equipment is really required.
I love that your cat was down for an adventure
As a science teacher I loved the number crunching that comes with analysing this sort of install. It just goes to show that the physical effort required to drag the larger guage pipe through the woods might not be worth it even if the sums say it gives you more power at the generator. Great explanation. Thanks Kris!
I really enjoyed that break down. Love to see the numbers.
You have wonderful willing assistants! And your explanation are brilliant. Even I could understand!!
What a lovely meditation location beside the rocky stream completely immersed in foliage ❤️
I think it's great that you explain how your 'caveman' tools work just as well as the fancy tools, but the fancy tools make a better impression with customers. :) Thanks for including all the trade-off calculations! It comes down to, as they say, "Is the juice worth the squeeze". The added water line pays out, but the bigger pipe does not. Also, nice cat!
You never cease to amaze me.
That was so well explained that a mathematical nut like me could understand how the figures were collected and used to calculate the efficiency. Thanks a lot. Great video, as always.
This is so cool I love these hydro videos. Environmental breakdown at the end was great as well
Very interesting seeing the whole survey process and then working out the figures, great...
That was very interesting content I was sorry when it ended. Just need to get me a stream now. You have a most intrepid pair of companions.
Thank you I can now wrap my head around the complexities of the calculations as well as all if the fiddly bits in between.
I live in the Pacific North West of Washington state so hydro is a major source of power even for the lower individual low impact systems.
Hoping to be putting your education to work soon.
PS Please give your four footed inspector a cuddle for me. They follow you around so many places keeping you safe from wild rodent or small bird attacks.
Thank you. Those numbers are crucial to building a hydro system.
Really interesting Krys. For the first time I’ve begun to learn about taking the vital measurements and reasoning behind such an installation, thank you for your thoroughness!
I like the ideas here about saving the fallen oak bole.
loving the videos very good info. the fact that both set of tools do the same thing makes me smile :)
fuck me, the second half with all the theory explained was something i found absolutely fascinating. thanks for going into detail, much appreciated
Thanks for running through the numbers Kris. Very much enjoyed it. Keep up the great work.
That water level sight is genius! Great stuff Kris!
Absolutely fascinating, glad I watched till the end. Keeping the environmental impact in mind in your calculations, coupled with the economic values is what I wish everyone in the world would do. I love how much you've thought about this, and solved any issues. Brilliant.
Kris, this was incredibly helpful! My hubby and I are literally going to do exactly what you did in this video to determine our hydroelectric potential for a system. Thank you so much for detailing this out and sharing it with us. Your channel has been such an inspiration to me!
Mate, you sound really sharp. Genuinely.
Thank you for the informative and engaging content as always. Much luck with the seemingly intense work to come. I'm looking forward to seeing it's progression and eventual completion. All the best to you, Dot and the little tiger. Cheers!
I’m never good at numbers but you explained this really way and I got what you were talking about. I thought I would get lost but I understood it all. I find this really interesting on how it’s all figured out and I never knew how much went into doing a survey like this, I knew it had a decent amount of input to do this but find it very fascinating how you come to these conclusions. Also love the fact your car goes everywhere with you!!
I've been around a long time, and have never seen anyone who could communicate with a cat the way Kris can.
Awesome Kris, so looking forward to this series of videos on your new hydro project..
Very informative Kris. Don't shy away from more content like this.
I found it fascinating. Always been interested in free energy ✨️
Kris I love the Nerdy numbers. Matt Risinger RUclipsr says " I love the Nerdy details". Thanks 👍👍 Kris.
This was such an informative and relaxing video, also so well made! Found your channel about a month ago and cannot stop watching. You are such an inspiration and positive influence on so many people, keep up the great work!
Turning the dream into reality, with a bit of clever research and shear hard work, I know I am inspired
Brilliant video, I am finding this all absolutely fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
I love the way your cat followers you. ❤️🐩
Loved watching this. I particularly liked it where you’ve looked at your carbon footprint and the embodied energy you would use and that it will be outweighed in the end 👌🏻
Great video Kris, clearly a passion and what a fantastic effort from Dot. keep up the good work guys love everything you do.
Nicely done. Very smart and capable person. Impressive. I liked the numbers (education) section too!
This was way more interesting and engaging than I thought it had potential to do so. Thank you very much. I think your passion for it shines through and that helps pull us in. Terrific stuff.
Amazing detailed video!! Loved it. That energy is enough for lot of ppl driving their electric cars around the year
I really enjoy the hydro content! Can't wait to see the second pipe go in. I'm curious how close you would get to your high tech devices if you went back and did the survey a second time with the water level, stick, and tape measure. I know that'd be a waste of your time, but I love me some comparison data. :D
Fascinating. Thanks, for explaining the process, Kris. 👍🙂
Really interesting Kris... I'm looking forward to the set-up and installation of the extra system. Also I loved the extra shots of the cat!
Love what you do Kris, great watching and explaining. Go top workshop
Fantastic. Well put, and don't worry about us not following... I felt engaged all the way through and have learnt loads out of that. I like your teaching style Sir! Many thanks and good luck for the future. m
Good video Kris. It was interesting to see the survey part and the numbers/report.