Easy DRT climbing for saddle hunters adding a foot loop
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Learning new stuff post season, playing with & discovering new gadgets is part of the fun. Thanks Joe.
Exactly what i am looking for. Recently had a bi cep injury from the gym. Been using DRT and then just dealing with pain. I’m gonna do this now. Thanks
This is the video I've been looking for. I think the hip method will be my choice. Thanks again.
I think Bachmans knot will give you a carabiner handle when grabbing on to your prussik as you go to raise your foot could might it even easier. Gonna give this a try next time I go out. You guys awesome, your videos got me up into a tree for the first time last weekend. It was sweet!
I’ve been trying this and been fighting the prusik knot. Since the foot loop is just an aider I’ve been just using 2 wraps on the prusik to make it easier to move the knot up. Much easier. Thanks for all the informative videos.
Yes Another thing I've been doing is using a factory 2 eye prusik and tighing it in a French prussic , it frees up easier. Or if you have a Ropeman on your lineman use that , that works even better
Game changer!!! i just went out and did it with my neighbor. it seems to be quieter than the hip thrust. I plan on using an aider, butt this just made me even more excited for next season!!! Thanks gentlemen, great info.
Glad you like it James Thanks for watching and best of luck brother!
Thanks for the help you guys are good ! Thanks for the help . Greg C.
Thanks Greg!
This method is really easy i had a knaider and swaider from my wild edge steps so i used the swaider it works so good 👍
"Awesome video" I've been using the SRT method with a gri-gri and I do like the DRT method as well. I just haven't tried the DRT method yet. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks will !
Great video as always Joe. Feel free to add this link on the srt page.
Great video again. Thank you for the dedication to educating us on the other side of the lens.
Just a thought... I would probably suggest tying the end of your bridge/foot-loop back to your belt. It would be a hassle if it were to fall off your foot.
Yes good idea. I actually picked up a dedicated footloop
I came up with the similar idea this past season. I had intention to share my discovery but then kept postponing 😂
Someday I'll show you my way.
No prusik, other knots or hardware needed.
Sounds good I'd love to see it
looking forward to viewing your idea.
i have a couple ropeman 1s in the garage and a few tethers as well.......running out right now to put this together!
Thanks and Semper Fi Marine... I'll be getting back into hunting, job makes it hard sometimes. As a family man I'll be starting out diy saddle hunting and trying to keep the initial investment cost down. I'll mainly be focusing on public land, clubs near Birmingham fees are getting up there. Oh and tell Scott thanks to.
My son's the active duty Marine . Thanks for watching and I understand how hard it is to find time as a family man . Our kids are all grown now so it's a little easier now . Glad to hear you'll be getting back into hunting and getting into saddle hunting. Best of Luck !!
I think if I did this Id use a hand ascender and a webbing loop, like Jamie Cline's SRT video. The thing is that has more metal and my whole angle with DRT is that it's cheap and doesn't have alot of metal to clang. I also though about using a Bachmann and a long chunk of ascessory cord since you just need it for ascending. We'll see what I end up using. I've also thought about switching over to oplux and a minimalist SRT system for weight so might end up doing something similar there. Thanks for the video.
The only thing that limits you getting into a tree is the tree and your imagination. We plan to film some SRT videos in the future too . We just tend to like to keep it simple . We're only climbing about 20' so we could use ascenders SRT that's great it's just another expense another thing to bring in and for us DRT is easy enough. However I definitely understand guys who prefer more SRT it's that much easier, just gotta figure what works best for you. Either way your going in light in Hope's to come out heavy 😀
Best of luck figuring out what method is best for you. Also these rope climbing methods all of them are just kind of fun.
Great idea. I'll probably use another blakes hitch or a Ditzel instead of a Prussik for my foot ascended knot though.
You could even use a Ropeman if you have one
@@NYSaddleHunter yeah I kind of believe the less metal the better. I'm not the quietest in the woods. Lol
So I tie the rope to my adjustable bridge and a Blake’s hitch to the other line. Could I just tie a Blake’s hitch with my tether instead of adding the prussik?
Very interesting concept! Would a French Prusik slide up easier than a regular Prusik?
This is Joe here. I personally am not familiar with a French prussic Scott may be . I would have to experiment with different hitches that may work better. I'll explore it and d share my findings. Thanks for watching
Nice Joe. It seems like a good combo of the DRT/SRT methods. Would a strap loop dedicated for the job be a better idea? Not sure if I would want to grind the dirt, etc off my boot into my tether.
Nate
Yes I'd think so . I wanted to show it could be done with what you're already have without carrying any other items in, but sure a dedicated foot loop wouldn't weigh or cost much and would probably be better so as not to muddy up your tether .
I made a dedicated piece of rope for the reason you suggest. I use the loop for a quick SRT also
Yeah this is what i ended up doing today after many failed attempts with the hip thrust method.. much easier for beginners works great only thing now is while doing this i start creeping out of my saddle. any suggestions on saddle creep? am i just extending my leg too much? i tightened up my waste belt which kind of helped but found myself still sliding out. i suspect i just need more practice. i have the ESS eberhart signature searies hes not much of a rope climber hes a tree steps kind of guy
If your going to use a foot loop and ascender it’s time to add a Gri Gri and try SRT. Less rope and super easy. I like both methods for different situations but you really should try it.
SRT is great , just trying to show a way to climb that's minimalist and can be done without additional investment in gear. But I agree SRT is great
I really enjoy all your videos! The only thing that confuses me is how you are tied both in your saddle and foot tether loop. Could you make a small how to video for dummies like me.😊
Sure I will film it tomorrow morning I'm working till 11pm tonight
Clever
Good video Joe.
So, are you just tying an alpine butterfly or some other kind of knot to create a loop to connect into with your foot loop?
I just used the factory eye on my tether, pulled the tether through the eye and girth hitched my foot then adjusted my prussic on my tether and clipped the carabiner to either a prussic or the Ropeman installed beneath the Blake's hitch
NY Saddle Hunter oh sure. That makes sense.
How long is the rope that you carry?
So I love the drt method and this whole system for climbing. However I have problems while climbing especially with using a foot loop. with my saddle creeping up and squeezing my torso then It seem like my knots get farther away to reach and i end up needing to come back down and readjust. I have the ess saddle. Is that just how it is the need to constantly be adjusting the saddle? My waist belt is tight as can be around my back. Is there a fine tuned technique or am I doing something wrong. Or do I just need more practice. Its seem like I can manage adjusting my saddle while climb when I lean way back and keep my legs more horizontal to the tree. So when I use a foot loop i start to want to slip through my saddle per say.
Dawn, I’ve found there not many saddles on the market that work well with rope climbing methods . Most tend to hike up on you and pinch really bad . However there are a few that work very well and stay put while climbing. The Cruzr XC covers a lot of real estate . From your hips to the backs of your thighs . Lightweight build and very comfortable both while climbing and sitting or leaning . Buzzard Roost is another . A 2 panel design that works very well with climbing and sitting. Both saddles are pretty much bomb proof. Once you set em
Your good to go . The less fidgeting and readjusting you have to do . The more enjoyable your hunt will be .
There may be a few others but those are my 2 favorites for rope climbing.
They’ll both perform flawlessly when climbing DRT or SRT and with a foot-loop .
Hey guys. I have a trophyline tree saddle and 75 foot of predator line. I'm having a hard time with the hip thrust method. I am going to try the method in the video. How do you guys feel about using a foot ascender?
I think in a hunting situation , less is more. So personally the reason we tend to favor DRT climbing to SRT or rope walking is we can do so easily enough without needing to invest in more gear that could potentially create unnatural noise (metal) and makes setting up a little bit more busy. However for people who find DRT too difficult SRT be it with foot ascender or what I like RAD is a great way to climb and its physically easier it is however a significant investment. Generally about $150-$200 depending on what type of gear you choose.
At the end of the day with these rope climbing methods you need to find what you feel best fits your style, ability , and budget.
As for DRT I think the foot loop method is pretty easy very similar to SRT without the investment in ascenders.
NY Saddle Hunter In your considered opinion, which system (SRT or DRT) and specific rigging is the easiest, least work involved (least sweat), with fewest contraptions method of getting to hunting height? Check out "Prusik with Tending Pulley" by Climbing Arborist. Substitute a prusic tender ring for the pulley. Thanks! Hunt safely, my Friends!
Cannot see the total know setup looking straight way. Wish there was a diagram. Thanks. Love this method!!!
Mike I think you might be able to see it better here
ruclips.net/video/PsEZQ2EJDEk/видео.html
had to watch the video a few times to see your technique......i was looking like a pinata lol. try again tomorrow
Watch this video I climb using this method and you can see how well it works ruclips.net/video/nPtbOkoSB2E/видео.html
Is that a Ropeman 1 or 2?
Good video, it does look a little easier than traditional DRT but I'm a little confused on the rope advancement. Any chance you could show some close ups of the rigging and connection points for better reference as there was alot going on there and you seemed to be gripping and pulling the main line between the Blake's hitch and the foot loop attachment by either prussic or ropeman.
Yes I can try to make another video. I was self filming this one . I'll try to make one outside also climbing up to hunting height
@@NYSaddleHunter Do you have to grip and pull the rope where you did using that system or could you pull from up higher on the rope?
@@chadgoebel7476 I think you want to have one hand on the rope under your foot prussic/ Ropeman to hold back as you advance it after the step up and the other hand under the Blake's hitch because as you step up it pulls the main line down through the Blake's hitch. You dont want your hand hold to hit the top of the Blake's hitch and cause it to make it slip. I dont normally use this method I just hip thrust so probably just need to play with it to get a good feel and rythm of wear to hold . It is easier than hip thrusting though and very easy to set up , so I could see myself going to this over traditional DRT as I get older and fatter lol
Why not a Blake’s hitch at the top of the tether that you’re using as the foot loop? Just a thought.
Because you want your Blake's hitch high up so as to get as much as possible stroke with each step up, but still within reach to be able to come down . If your footloop was above the Blake's hitch it would be too high to reach to advance it. With SRT the footloop is on the top ascender but you would have a gri gri at your waste
If I'm going to go prusik, not ropeman, is there any reason I can't use 550 cord for that prusik? Should I use something else?
2 reasons you should never use parachord for this :
1) Parachord should never be used in any application to support body weight . Even when it’s not used for li
Even when it’s not used for life support.
2) it’s such a small diameter that when you apply your body weight to it
It will lock up so tight you’ll have a hard time making it slide up or down the rope.
@@NYSaddleHunter much appreciated on the response. Do you have a type of rope you recommend?
I know you guys recommend 75' of rope. Can you do this method with less, what is the minimum you would suggest?
You could use less but if you divide by two that's the maximum height you can have your limb / crotch height. So with 75' we can hit a crotch 35' or lower .
Awesome video. What do you think about using a pre-made foot loop?
Thanks ! Sure , especially if your boots are muddy . I just wanted to show a way it can be done with something you will already have with you , but absolutely you could use a dedicated foot loop
@@NYSaddleHunter Thank you so much. You guys are fantastic. I have been practicing and going through all your videos. Thank you again.
@@FTLiberty Great , Thanks so much for the positive feedback and I hope it ups your game. Very best of luck !
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Well I’m confused & will have to watch a few more times
What are you have trouble understanding Drew ? I'd be happy to help explain
Most of my problem had to do with watching it on a phone screen- attempted a bit of levity, really happy to see this. Frankly at 63 my upper body strength isn’t what it once was.
Now make a video on how you anchored a tree in your garage
Lol its just standing and tie down strapped to my roofing trusses.
I had the same question. I need a tree like that in my basement for target practice out of the saddle!
Yep the garage tree is the best thing you guys have ever shown and I really like your stuff!
Magic beans 😆
ya build the garage around the tree lol
4 those who r intimidated by DRT this might be a better method since standing upright might feel more natural. It's all natural 2 me as long as I'm not adding a bunch of gear since I'm most interested in safety & I don't want or need too many factors added 2 the equation
Agreed. I like to keep it simple too. Less things to drop, lose, make noise , and purchase. It's only a 20 foot climb and DRT is easy enough for me to not bite the bullet yet on SRT gear. Maybe when I'm older .. but hey SRT is easy nothing wrong with easy either
You can ascend a single rope with the gear you have already
@@davidwarren719 Yes you could, however I dont think with the gear I already have I could self advance my friction hitch and utilize the 2:1 mechanical advantage on a single rope( if I could I don't know how). When you use something like a gri-gri your automatically advancing through it , and gaining some mechanical advantage. With DRT with a tending knot its accomplishing the same thing. With the same gear I have I would have to physically advance both the foot loop prussic and the main bridge prussic or Ropeman on a single rope. I dont know how I could do that with just the material I have on a single rope . In other words I have to step up advance one sit back advance the other on a single rope . With DRT and a tending knot it advances itself plus you have a 2:1 mechanical advantage. If you have a way I'd love to see it
Seems silly. Why not just add Hand Ascender and Foot Loop?
I see all these old guys climb with speical equipment they look they have special needs because i just climb tree and done😂