Best climbing technique for saddle hunters (DRT Climbing Technique)
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This video is a method we use for our mobile style saddle hunting to climb trees. Please watch till the end as there's a lot of information on DRT climbing technique that we believe is the safest, quietest, least expensive way to climb a tree for saddle hunting. I hope you all benefit from this technique. Please like and share with others.
Feel free to comment down below with your questions, We'd love to help in anyway we can.
Please remember that climbing of any kind is inherently dangerous. The DRT climbing method has been a standard in the arborist industry for many years. But remember It's only safe if you do it right. Ensure your knots are tied correctly and make sure you set every knot before you get off the ground. This method that we use in saddle hunting, but only do what makes you comfortable and do this at your own risk.
Hunters Who climb trees typically have no training. One of the reasons we made these videos was to introduce hunters to what arborists use to climb safely. Just like anything its incumbent on you to seek out training from a qualified professional , and practice to learn how to do it properly. It's no different than learning firearm safety or anything that's inherently dangerous.
Thanks for watching, climb safe and best of luck!
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Watching hunters apply arborist techniques is cool to see. Seems simple to any climber but I get how this could be a whole new world to hunters.
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This video just made my mind up. Saddle it is for the public ground. Thank you
I just started saddle hunting. I appreciate your channel, methods, and techniques. You guys are awesome stewards and dudes. Thanks for all you do.
Great video at 68 I may try this, better then carrying may sticks. Thanks
WOW! I've never seen it demonstrated like this. Nice.
Thanks ! We really enjoy your videos too , we've seen them all keep up the good work !
Greatest video. Stay safe, stay strong, and Godspeed! Just subscribed.
I'm going to add this to my climbing methods thanks
That’s a great idea of setting a hoop set up in a tree. I’ve always used the 550 cord as my pull line for setting my rope in the tree. Thanks for the idea.
Good stuff guys. I will have to give this some more thought and try it out pre season and see how it would work for me. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us and I hope you have a blessed weekend.
Dale
Our pleasure best of luck !
I have often thought of just using rope to get in my stand, just as simple as para cord, loop, love to learn, but sometimes it makes me feel dumb,lol. Thanks fellas. Good to know that there are people like you two up in NY.
Only throw your certified climbing line over a certified load bearing branch.
Lol true
So where can I find the certifications on the trees in the woods? Lol....
Wspatch1987 ask any Squirrel
@Chad Klaren we like to throw the line over a branch but girth hitch the tree
NY Saddle Hunter could you please explain "girth hitch the tree"? Enjoy your videos! Hey, could you show how you manage your ropes once you get into hunting position? Are you tethering to the tree and pulling up your climbing rope and stuffing it somewhere or what? Thanks!
Best freaking video I’ve seen. Was just pricing equipment and I searched and found your video and realized I don’t need as much as I thought. I like the super simple setup gonna give this a go this season
Thanks for the positive feedback, we really appreciate it.
Hope it works out well for you , best of luck this season !
I too am an arborist with 24 years experience. I just got into #bowhunting 3 years ago. I have just gotten into saddle hunting this year, the past 2 weeks. I srt climb exclusively at work, I have been working with some inexperienced friends and limiting the start up expense and I too find this to be the most effective way for new people and low budget climbing techniques. Excellent video. Love what you guys did here. Keep it up and good hunting.
Thanks Kevin appreciate the support. Good luck to you also !
Great tips and ideas guys. Thanks
Awesome Video... Dam Climbing sticks are heavy clumsy to carry... Love it....
Awesome way to also tie in a small hang on stand I would think, great vid.
Yes. We use this system to hang stands as well . Much safer
My mind has been blown. This is exciting stuff. Great job guys!
Thanks Evan we really appreciate positive feedback , Happy Holidays and best of luck to you!
Thanks for your climbing tip. I am not a hunter but I needed a way to get up the mast of a sailboat by my self. Your technique will work for me, but instead of a limb, I will raise a pulley up the mast using the halyard. The pulley will reduce friction on the rope. That Blake Hitch is just what I needed. Thanks.
Just make sure the rope and pulley you use to haul your climbing line up the mast have a safety rating of 25KN minimum. Safe Sailing Mike
I've been looking for this video for years. Looks light, fast, and simple.
Definitely not hard . It’s a technique and once mastered it’s a breeze. Not to mention it keeps you in great shape in the off season. We have a few ladies that want to try it out. Once we get them up to speed. We’ll do a video to get there comments, pros and cons Good Luck Mathew !
@@NYSaddleHunter Question, I live in Montana where there is mostly Ponderosa Pine. How well does the rope hold up in your guys experience? Is this technique harder due to the bark type and sap?
Matthew Doughty probably a good idea to use a friction saver. I’ll do a video in the coming weeks on how to install one from the ground. We have Red Pines here on the East Coast. The pitch is hell on a rope it will bind your hitch up tighter than crazy glue. Thanks Matt
Thank you guys!
Super cool info guys... thank you!
Nice job explaining your technique.
I found your video to be a great learning tool, l’m fifty - four and trying saddle hunting for the first time. Your video and others like it are getting me excited to go hunt!
Thanks Joe I'm 54 also Scott is 55
Great video guys. this setup sounds perfect for my style of hunting, i like to move around a lot on public land and its hard to find good trees for my tree stands. i want to try a saddle out sometime. the saddle gear is light enough to pack for long days in the forest.
Yes saddle hunting for run and gun style hunter that wants to go in as light and mobile as possible makes going in and setting up so much easier. Also if you look up into a tree a guy in a tree stand kind of looks unnatural in a tree whereas the angle you're in while in a saddle kind of looks more like a limb . Takes a little practice and getting use to but it's just another great tool in your arsenal that might help you get the job done. We hike back over a Mike and have to climb as high as 800' of elevation in some spots and going in light with this method really helps make it alot less cumbersome than taking in a stand and sticks to do a hang and hunt. We still use stands and sticks , but for that long trek in it's just an awsome tool
Thanks guys. I’m in! This works. Hardest part is getting the line thrown.
I agree (Joe) . Scott's been doing it for 30 years and he's remarkably accurate. He almost always gets it first toss at almost any height.
I think you gotta look at it like archery . Take the time to gets some practice in an open spot , and get better at it , but I agree the throw ball can be the most difficult part for the new guys.
Good luck this season !
Glad to see some fellow Ny outdoors youtubers. Keep at it fella's. I subbed.
Thanks brother ! We’ll be watching the Outdoor Dude. Good luck !!!
Very good job on the demo, guys!
Thanks brother. Cool handle you got there !
Great video guys! When you said Scott was 30 years on the job I knew a blakes was gonna be introduced... "old school baby". If I didn't already have the SRT gear I certainly wouldn't go out and get it (rope wrench, micro pulley, knee ascender. foot ascender) …. noise is probably an issue but I can fly up a tree. What I would give to see some of my big ole "cod" deer hunting buddies try to DRT even five feet.... a monkey and a football come to mind. For some of you guys that decide to do this an ascender.... foot, knee with a tether or hand with a tether is gonna be your friend...…and remember there is no in between with knots they are either right or wrong; a blakes can become a "suislide" if tied wrong …. stay safe and good hunting.
This is great! Can't wait to start hunting with a saddle! ... Nice meeting you today Joe!
Nice meeting you as well Andrew!
@@NYSaddleHunter When you have a minute, give my "NY public land buck" video a watch. You might recognize the area... or even the buck!
Awesome video thanks for sharing i never tried SRT and I would have to get all the gadgets that goes with using it first. I’ll have to give DRT a try sometime since it’s just a rope
Thanks for watching! Good luck !
THANKS GREAT VIDEO VERY INFORMATIVE , EDUCATIONAL, WITH FORESIGHT IN MIND !!!!
Thanks Frank
I've watched this one and another video you did a few times each and have enjoyed them, keep up the good work. I am eager to give this a try and do like the minimalist idea with gear and cost.
Thanks glad you like it.
Before you try to climb pay close attention to this video: ruclips.net/video/UF-Yk3c6B2s/видео.html
It should help you understand the technique . It's important to understand the hip thrust timing or it will be difficult and frustrating. Once you get the technique you'll find it's actually not difficult and kind of fun. Not sure if you've already seen this video
Definitely want to save this video got the tree want to try it on.
Best of luck. 👍
I climb trees and I archery hunt the Pacific northwest and I think I just figured a gameplan on a buck, Thank you subscribed can't wait too see what else I can learn.
Thanks Tree Guy Hope it aides in your success this season. 👍
this info is gold..thank you so much..hi from Malaysia
Thankyou Nazri ! We’ve updated that video about 2 months ago . Check that one out also. Appreciate your support !!!
It's so funny that your opening comment was the same conclusion I came to last year. I come from being an avid rock climber and wanting to saddle hunt. I was looking at sticks and steps and said to myself, "self, I have all the gear to climb a tree like an arborist. Its lighter, quiter, and safer." Not to mention cheaper, considering all the kit I already have.
Great minds think alike lol
Are you using a climbing harness instead of the saddle?
@@Nigelv I am, indeed. Adds very little weight over a saddle, and gear loops control the clutter while I ascend. I'll eventually make a saddle because a bridge does offer superior mobility.
That is some pretty hardcore technique! I don’t have near the physical condition you have to do this but knowledge is golden.
You can do it , not as hard as it looks
This is awesome!
Subscribed- awesome video! Thanks to both of you for saving me some $$$....This video gets a 5 Bourbon Thumbs Up!
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Awesome video. I am glad I found you guys; I was about to order 300$ worth of climbing sticks but thought “there’s gotta be a better way”
That’s awesome Zach , I have several different systems. If you need any further help in deciding what’s right for you reach out any time . Thank you
@@NYSaddleHunter the only question I had was where do I get one of those climbing ropes? I bought a saddle kit already that comes with two tethers and I’m contemplating making my own climbing rope out of military rappelling rope. What do y’all use
@@Thezachofalltrades1
On my website, I have several different rope options for the style your interested in
75’ of 11.7 mm Yale Vantage Camo rope if your looking at doing just DRT style
75’ 9.5mm of Sterling Super Static2
Works for both DRT and SRT
If your into One Stick climbing
The 9.5 Sterling in a 40’ version works great .
All my newer systems use 8mm of Oplux with a F4 devise .
If you see something out of stock . I’m resupplying stock weekly. Will be fully stocked by July . Thanks Zach 👍
Website : www.newyorksaddlehunter.com/
I finally got it. Was having trouble getting the knot to move up when it was tied to the pursik. But have done a few climbs going good now. Thanks guys!!!
To pull your Blake's hitch up the key is not having any slack in the tending knot bridge
Thanks for sharing this information. I am a complete newb when it comes to saddle hunting. I tried a climber tree stand 15 years ago and didn’t like it so I have been hunting on the ground ever since. I just ordered a Tethrd ESS double panel saddle kit last night since they’re on sale. This would definitely save me from spending $150 on some Hawk climbing sticks etc...
Check out this video we made more information
ruclips.net/video/O0F5ykXqz4c/видео.html
This is a life saving tip. Thanks
Thanks !
Enjoyed your video. Thank you
Thanks !!
Great tip guys and thanks so much for taking the time to show this technique. If your ever out to east Vancouver Island British Columbia Canada would love to share our big timber and Columbia black- tail with ya, just follow up through this post with contact info and we can chat
Thanks, so much . Neither of us have ever been to British Columbia. Send us a friend request on NY saddlehunter forum on Facebook and keep in touch!
Great video guys! I have viewed most if not all your videos. I was excited to try your setup this year as I am all set for a knee replacement this year. I pushed that back to happen after deer season and my wife thinks I'm nuts.. lol. I have been working the DRT setup in my back yard with a big maple. Have you had trouble with the rope not moving over that crotch of the tree? It slides fine with no weight but as soon as i sit in to my saddle it does not want to move. I have been using Wild Edge but I would prefer to use this. I really want this to work out I'm going to test the leg assist setup tomorrow to see if that helps. I will use my tether rope for that. Thank you! Go in light and come out heavy!
This is revolutionary because no spikes lol thank you so much
Most definitely have my attention!
Thanks check one of our latest videos on rope climbing methods it has more information. Thanks for watching !
Its cool idea guys but I have been hunting out of a greens tree saddle for 20 years and for mobility around the tree you need to be in your strap and ring around tree so you can 360 degree around tree and shoot any angle,,plus adjust your strap for your comfort shooting style,,just hanging of limb with a vertical rope you will have issues shoot in,,I'm bot saying it's a cool idea I just see many challenges,,this is only my own judgement call,,obviously u have to exsperamint
Sure I typically transition to my tether personally, Scott likes to stay on his climbing line. We usually like to have our climbing line over a limb but we're tethered to the trunk of the tree not typically just over a limb . We just like the DRT to get you to hunting height and it's an option to stay on your climbing line or transition to your normal manner of saddle hunting.
This is awesome
Very nice
A classic! The simplicity of this method is brilliant. I definitely have had issues with climbing large trees with traditional mobile climbing sticks. I will be trying this method very soon!
Good luck, check out some of our in depth videos on the technique to climbing in this method it might be helpful when you first try because some people get a little bit frustrated and find it difficult but once you understand the technique and you get it down it'll all come together and you'll find out it's really not difficult at all. Good luck and if you have any questions just let me know
Nice thanks.
Great video. I learned a lot.
Thanks Darryl
When I climb DDRT, I use a leather cambium saver to reduce friction and prevent damage to tree and rope.
Please tell us some more about it
limplin7 it’s called a limb saver. RUclips how to set a limb saver from the ground.
That is very cool
Also, being in great climbing shape makes this MUCH easier. I’ve been doing this for YEARS at least 5-7 days a week so I can’t really remember what it felt like to yet be in climbing shape... If your a newbie, start getting in shape NOW so by the time deer season is back you’ll be ready.
On a side note, try wearing Breathe Right nasal strips, they REALLY help improve one’s oxygen intake both at rest and during physical activity.
Good stuff. Tree climbing is an absolutely excellent way to stay in shape. You guys that do it 5 days a week are always in amazing shape.
There's def a lot of techniques coming out of the woodwork when it comes to saddle hunting def enjoyed the video 👍
Thanks for the positive feedback I appreciate it
Well I'm hunting out of Arkansas and saddle hunting hasnt really taken a hold here with local hunters yet but I can see this as a trend but we mainly have hang n hunt guys here but I know a few saddle hunters that I Shared this with
@@BackstrapBrotherhoodOutdoors Thanks for sharing , hope it helps you out this season , I'm part of the "back strap brotherhood " too brother ! Lol
Anything I can do to help a brother get some back straps on the grille
Where are you out of in Arkansas? I'm in the russellville area. Ordering a saddle next week. Hoping itll be in by opening day
Hey Tyler!! We are located about 2 hours west of you in siloam springs Arkansas right by the Oklahoma line
Very interesting...
I've been climbing for decades and belong to TCI. I always (without exception) use a safety line in addition t my main-line. It only makes noise when climbing...after settling in all is quiet.
Clay Pottinger Are you referring to DRT and a lanyard around the trunk as your 2nd POC . Or SRT with 2 lines and double hand and foot ascender ?
Now this makes sense to me. I thought saddle hunting sounded good, but all I saw was people using climbing sticks. I mean isn't half the ideal of saddle hunting being a way to eliminate ladders and climbing sticks. My father in law is a retired trimmer. Imma make him teach me lol. Great video.
Thanks for the comment Kevin . Good luck !!!
I've seriously wondered why people haven't started using climbing techniques like this. You could probably use a wild edgestep too give ya a little bit of footing to turn around or lean a little easier.
Thank this is awesome. When ur tethered in the tree hunting do you leave the the climbing line and knot hooked up or you you undo everything then retie? May be dumb question but I'm new to saddle hunting ill probably stick with my sticks awhile but this would be cool to practice and be able to utilize someday
Some times we stay on the climbing line others we tie into the tree with a tether and transition to that. We don't untie just clip in with a carabiner to the tether and come off the climbing line. But it depends on the tree
@@NYSaddleHunter i figured as much but figured I'd just make sure lol. Thanks for answering I appreciate it
Considering I don’t even have a saddle yet I think I’ll try sticks first ( never used that either cuz I’ve always hunted from a climber or a homemade ladder stand) but I definitely like the idea of it and will keep it in mind when I get a little acclimated to saddle hunting
We tell everyone you should have a set of sticks or steps too anyway. Rope climbing methods are great for being light and mobile but they require a good limb. Sometimes you have telephone pole type trees with no limbs and need a plan B. If I could only have one method I'd probably stay with sticks but I like to have more than one option and the way I do things now 90% of the time I go to the ropes but going with sticks first is probably the right thing to do.
Great method. Deff would take some practice but I can see alot of upside to it.
Yes like most things practice is key . I found a few times I got the hang of it quickly and I started using it as a workout in my yard I climb up repel down a bunch of times to practice and get more comfortable . The key is getting the hip thrust and pulling down timed right and you climb like Batman. For me the most difficult part depending on the tree is throwball accuracy . Some trees are easy others your aiming for a high crotch and might take a few tries. Scott has more experience he hits it almost first try every time . I might need a second or third attempt on a difficult target .
But it's really a cool method. Give it a try see if you like it
Great job on the demo guys, might be something I try practicing in my yard! Quick question the second knot you did on your climbing rope, was that also a Blake’s hitch? Could you explain the knots on that cli,bing rope? Thank you
Yes the second knot was also a Blake's hitch or any knot that won't slip on that line will work. the Blake's works really well because it's sinches down and it won't slide. Next Thursday we plan to put out another video that will have a little bit more in-depth on the techniques. Subscribe and keep following I'll try to put a video with some knot tying for you keep an eye out for it
Question in regards to the knot from a newbie with this, is there some sort of way that a carabiner or other climbing device could take the place of that knot?
@@TheHYENA87 sure there is. But that adds weight and complexity.
@@TheHYENA87 The ropeman 1 or the Kong Duck ascender both work great
Game changer right there. I knew arborists got up trees quicker than climbing sticks.
This is a good example of how this can work in the field but its even better with preset paracord loops . ruclips.net/video/_3n0gOoPS4o/видео.html
Joe,Scott it’s been great to see this method of climbing. Thank you for all your great videos!! I bought all the stuff for SRT and am excited to do SRT but am going to learn DRT also because there are situations in Utah that will work easier with DRT. One issue that I have a issue that I would like your advice on is pine tree climbing SRT or DRT.. How does pine tree sap effect climbing ropes? Does it degrade the rope and what care should I use after climbing in a sap tree? I have a 9mm rope and will this work ok for DRT?
Great question : Pine Sap will definitely affect your rope. It will bind your hitch and gum up any mechanical device you use for climbing. By using a Cambium Tree Saver you can effectively use either climbing system in Pine Trees. Best of Luck Dwane
What is a Cambium tree saver
@@dwanehudson6904
A Cambium saver is somthing you can install that Protects the bark of the tree from contact with the rope and the rope from abrasion on the tree. In pine trees it will protect your rope from getting gummed up with sap.
Thanks for one of the best videos I've seen on tree hunting technique.
Now I'm up the tree, but how do I get down? Is there rappelling involved? Can you please fill in for that part of the video that was removed to discuss the knot?
Mitch Thanks for watching , we touched on descending in the video however this video we made ruclips.net/video/IwU7EuYE3tw/видео.html @ 6:50 is more in depth on how to descend.
ruclips.net/video/IwU7EuYE3tw/видео.html
Lol. I would have done been sit in 10 minutes ago and would have made a fourth of the sound you guys made. After seeing this video I know for a fact I'll stick with my climbing sticks 😂
Very similar to a prusik climb. Can you use an ascender to do this too versus tying the knot?
Great video. Really appreciate the content. Quick question, can you use an ascender or mechanical device instead of the knot shown in this video? Thanks in advance for your reply.
Thanks . To answer the question can you use a mechanical ascender instead of the Blake's hitch knot ? I'd say No. some people have asked if a Ropeman could be used instead of a prussic. It would work when ascending but it would not be safe when descending. Also one of the benefits of DRT is its minimalist. If you start adding mechanical ascenders probably better to just climb SRT if you are going to make that investment. Nice thing about DRT is all you need is the rope alone and a caribiner. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and best of luck !
I think this is a very good method for beginners. You showed 2 climbing hitches in this video. What is the name of the hitch other than Blake's hitch? Is it called tautline hitch?
The video title looks accurate as hell! It seems like having 2 lines wrapped around a limb would cause mobility issues when shooting though. Are you planning on doing a demo of what it looks like hunting out of this setup?
We have plenty of videos on this. We show how much more mobility you have when hunting DRT. You can shoot 360 degrees in complete comfort undetectable
@@NYSaddleHunter that was fast I'm going to try DRT out this week. It's perfect for where I live. I'm subscribed now
David Bahr 👍. Thankyou ! Feel free to hit us up with any questions. Good luck and safe climbing
I love the NY accents talking about hunting! You guys are great.
I dont hear the accent. But then again, I'm 30 minutes east of Syracuse. 😀
Same @the outdoor dude
I’m strongly considering scrapping my climbing sticks, & adopting a version of your system of climbing! My trees of choice, are either to crooked, leaning, full of large branches, or to big in diameter to use them anyhow!!!
Ever try climbing a tree with steps, only to find yourself spinning around the tree trunk on your lineman’s line, because you didn’t realize the lean of the tree, & you’ll see that extreme frustration!
Give it a shot . I know you’ll be pleasantly surprised by how easy the learning curve is and how many possibilities it opens up for you. There isn’t a tree to big or to small for this style of climbing. Not to mention the safety aspect of it
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Predator line is out if stock! this must be catching on! wish I could get my hands on some!
Try calling wesspur the what the website at times says about stock isnt accurate, also there are other ropes that are good substitutes like Yale bandit. You can ask them for other ropes that will work well for DRT climbing
This is awesome! How do I disqualify trees or limbs that potentially won't support my weight? Or alternatively how do I pick a strong enough tree/branch?
Here's a video we made on selecting limbs. You neen to use your judgment but A good rule of thumb is larger than your forearm and keep your line into the crotch the further out on the limb the weaker it is. When in doubt stay above the limb but girth hitch the trunk.ruclips.net/video/1HhrrVikdms/видео.html
Any suggestions on what could be used as a preset if a weight bearing branch or fork is not available (long straight trunk)? I'd go up once with sticks but after that I like the idea of leaving the paracord loop and using this climbing method.
Straight trees i go to sticks or climber but if you really want to set it up for future DRT climbing with paracord loop I suppose you coud make a tether and tie in a steel ring or caribiner on one end.
Girth hitch the tether at the hieght you want it in . Run the paracord through the ring/ caribiner and leave it in the tree for the season.
Just make sure the tether is made of climbing rated rope and you use good knots like figure 8 and back them up.
I would pull it out at the end of the season . I would not trust it to be left out all year . Also inspect it with binoculars before you climb for squirrel damage.
If your in a spot that a tree step could be used you could install a screw in tree step left upside down. Run the paracord over the step but looped so that the girth of the tree is inside the loop. So when you climb DRT the step will keep the rope at hieght but your climbing line pressure will be mostly on the hirth of the tree as if you are crothing in . If the step is upside down threads intonthe tree and theres enough room to pull the knot from the climbing line over it that might work asswell. Ive never done this just thinking outside the box
Great video. I'm your newest subscriber. I've been debating getting a saddle but the price tag and long shipping waits make me shy away. Do you use the hunting saddles or something else? I was wondering if a Petzel Canyon Harness or something like that would work instead.
I use a tethrd Mantis, Scott uses a Aerohunter Kestral flex, which I prefer . If you're concerned I hear the H2 saddle wait time isn't bad and I hear great things about it. Don't wait order now
I did not catch what type of line you used to make a shorter bridge on your Mantis. Could you share. Thx..and cool vid. I’ve ordered the same system and plan on working it in this season.
Here's a quick video I made of me installing my short bridge on my saddle. if you have any questions let me know.
I will also drop a link of exactly what I used.
ruclips.net/video/DIz9o0ug0LA/видео.html
www.sherrilltree.com/sherrilltree-bee-line-black-single-eye-tail-10mm-5ft
what is the second knot you use when tying back to the first line...is that also a Blakes hitch? Very cool method, I often times fing very large Oaks in prime hinting area's and wonder How can I get up there!
Yes , the second knot is a blakes hitch or I also added a prussic knot to make it easier to tie in. Look at this video to see how i do it .ruclips.net/video/zqQ52rft-mk/видео.html
Hi I loved the vids I been using the self climbing tree stand and it’s heavy this helps a lot I have been trying the SRT and DRT and I prefer DRT my question was you mentioned you cut your rope can you post a video on the proper way to cut your static rope so I don’t destroy my rope and endanger myself with a messed up rope. I been searching but almost all vid are on how to cut dynamic rope not static rope. Thanks
Well if you plan on climbing DRT "static rope" may not work well because it may not have the same knot characteristics. Unless you tried to incorporate a bee line split tail for your climbing hitch. We recommend predator climbing line which is hard to find in stock or Yale Bandit climbing line looks to be a good substitute.
As for cutting the rope I can ask Scott to make a video
NY Saddle Hunter ok thanx I’ll look in to that
@@suavraj Here's our first choice , what we use:
www.wesspur.com/items/pr15.html
Second choice:
www.arborist.com/product/R180123-80/Yale-Bandit-11-mm-Climbing-Rope.html
Great Video!!! Quick question(s) on your second bridge you're using while climbing (not the Amsteel one). What is it made of and how is it secured to the saddle?
It's a 10 mm B-line single eye split tail. I used the eye on one end and looped it through the one side of the mantis D loops the other side I did a double half hitch and a safety not ( single half hitch) on the tag end.
This is what I used for my short bridge.
ROPE Logic Split Tail Bee-Line G-Spliced Single Eye Rope, Black, 10mm x 5' www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGLW3HM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nxEiDbCTADW7A
Really nice and detailed video. Thank you. Did you ever use Ropeman 1 Ascender for DRT?
As I understand it the Ropemans design is more for lineman rope. I'm not sure if it would work as well but I can't see why it wouldn't work. I'd maybe check with Ropeman to make sure it's safe to use it in that application, but if you're going to invest in ascenders , might want to consider SRT . One of the benefits of DRT is not needing to purchase ascenders.
I own a ropeman on my linemans rope. I'll try just out of curiosity, but I'm partial to the Blake's hitch because it's one less thing to bring in with me.
Not an expert but just from using the ropeman on linesman’s belts and tether on a saddle I think there will be no control on the decent. It’s a pretty sudden “let go”
No we don't use ascenders when climbing DRT. If you have ascenders there are variants or SRT/ DRT that you could explore, but we like to be more minimalist and only use the our Blake's hitch
Jim Suttinger you are totally right. The Blake’s knot guarantees safe and smooth descent. Do not use a Ropeman 1 for DRT.
Hey Joe, Great videos. I'm new to saddle hunting and this is the climbing method that I've been in need of. I have to hike 2 miles to my spots on public land. Carry and moving stands is a nightmare. I'm the same build as you. What size mantis do you use?
Scott
I have a large mantis but I'm on the fence of if a extra large might be better when it's cold with heavier hunting clothes on . I'm hoping to drop about 15 lbs before November so the large should be fine but it would be nice to try on first if you know someone with one . I'm about 190 lbs 34-36 waist bubble butt and large works but I'm not sure if an extra large might be even more comfortable?
However the large is comfortable enough hope that helps
Thank you so much for your insight.
@NY SADDLE HUNTER So you pull your carabiner over the branch and then clip it to your bridge. The knot on the carabiner has a tag end which is what your using to tie the blake hitch back to the main line. Right?
Brian yes. Check out this video might explain it a little better ruclips.net/video/z6zt4DwxXdc/видео.html
Just called and bought my predator rope, throwline, and throw bag. Using trophy line saddle tho. I told them it was thanks to you guys for making the sale.
Thanks , hope it ups your game, Best of luck!
How did it go?
It took me three times to finally get up in the tree comfortably. I couldn't successfully climb up till about the third climb. But its so nice once you have it down. Im also using a ring platform. I have my first attempt on my RUclips page
BCODicky 👍. Best of luck
Any tips on getting more comfortable in the saddle it likes to ride up a little. Any inside pointers on that?
Awesome video guys!
What's the name of the knot you are tying on the tail end to to make it autotending?
Thanks!
You can tie another Blake's hitch or a little trick is to install a prussic with paracord above the caribiner and tie into that with a double half hitch .
Thanks for watching and good luck!
u could also use a taughtline hitch
Great video guys. Where do you buy the proper climbing line?
If you don't have a climbing center or store by you there are many reputable climbing stores online that will ship directly to your door. But your preferred hunting sale and order your rope and extra caribeaners online to make it easier.
John we buy most of our gear from Wesspur. Heres a link
wesspur.com/items/pr15.html?_ga=2.89178523.1683540178.1567827933-2140304753.1564440368
Bad ass video!!! Thanks Guys!
Thanks we appreciate the positive feedback
Thanks for making the video, good techniques! You got a new sub
Great video. I will absolutely be using this method. How many feet of rope & throw line do you think is a good length to buy/carry?
75' is what we carry
If you go on our channel tomorrow we just filmed a in depth tutorial of the technique that should help make it easier
@@NYSaddleHunter Will check it out for sure.
ruclips.net/video/UF-Yk3c6B2s/видео.html
Thanks guys for your great videos and education!
You might have covered it, but for the most part are you limited to fairly straight trees. I remember in another video you mentioned to ascend on the opposing side of the bend, yet if you have a tree has a fairly large bend as you are wanting to ascend high, say 30 feet, is this possible without swinging around the other side since there is such a long fulcrum?
You all have a video about throwing a ball into a tree with many limbs and/or dead limbs, yet could you make one showing various trees that aren’t perfectly straight or have a significant bend? Or are you limited to specific trees with very slight bends/straight. I want to know how flexible this method is before going all out. With both of you two and your years of experience I’d love to see more on tree selection and the ascension. Doesn’t have to be much hunting scenario.
Thanks Erik. It would work with a severe bend as long as the trunk is wide enough for both feet. Challenging yes. But can be done. We’ll search a nice leaner out and make a vid on it. Should be out by the end of September.
I got some Camp Irridium 11mm static cord to try this out, do you think it has to be predator line? I ask because when I tied the tag end of the Blake's hitch to the up line and it seemed to tighten the Blake's too much and not let me move up or rappel easily.
It doesn't need to be predator line but "static line" doesn't have the same knotting characteristics as predator line or an equivalent arborist grade line.
If you added a Bee line for your Blake's hitch you could probably use that with a static line I'd think but I've never tried it.
This is a Bee line if you used this to go from your caribiner to tie your Blake's hitch it would probably work on the static line I think .
SHERRILLtree | Bee Line Black Single Eye Tail 10mm 5ft
www.sherrilltree.com/sherrilltree-bee-line-black-single-eye-tail-10mm-5ft
Do you do any additional steps to tether yourself to the tree once you're up there to hunt, or is the rope you used to climb up there all you need?
We usually use a tether as well and are connected to both. However you could just stay on the climbinf line alone if its comfortable however when sitting its more comfortable to be on a long bridge , but to DRT climb you want a short bridge so we have 2 bridges on our saddles one short one long . We tether into the long and take pressure off the short at hunting height but usually stay clipped into both just for the safety that comes with redundancy .
I’m really impressed that’s awesome! Why 75’ of rope though would you just need like 50 at the most? I mean I’m definitely not going any higher that 20 maybe 25 feet tops. For me it’s just not necessary. I’m just curious if you need that much for the knots and what not...
The reason we chose 75 is. I like to be tied in higher than my platform it gives me a greater pivot to shoot all sides of the Tree. Also you can’t expect that the tree you need to be in is gonna offer you safe limbs at 20 or 25 ‘ Thanks Matt.
I think I like this method better than SRT. I like that you can easily retrieve all your line from the ground when you’re done. I wonder about wear on the rope as it rubs the limb with each pull of the rope.
I doubt I’ll find myself adventurous enough to try this. Perhaps a younger me would’ve been all over this but not so sure now. Light weight is appealing but the proverbial hanging from a thread visual gives me cause to doubt.
It takes a little getting use to having confidence in your gear saddle hunting, totally understand your feelings.
I'm 52 years old Scott's 54 and it looks alot harder than it is . You just need to develop the technique and with a little practice its pretty easy and actually fun.
I don't think theres a easier safer way to come down than DRT .
I think its intimidating to some people at first but once you get the hang of it its really not to bad, however its probably not for everyone. Like anything else some people will probably love it some hate it.
Thanks for watching and your comment , and best of luck this season!
Hey great video. That rope is out of stock on Wespur. Alternative ? Which carabiner?
I hear Wesspur should have predator in stock by 9/15. However if they don't here's a good substitute:
www.arborist.com/product/R180123-80/Yale-Bandit-11-mm-Climbing-Rope.html
As for caribiner I'm using black diamond
Hey Rich Thanks for the support. Predator Rope should be back in stock soon. A good alternative is Yale Bandit. Any Carabiner as long as it has a minimum rating of 25 KN. and is self locking.
What knot are you using to tie it back on the other side to pull the Blake