Take note that these experiments are merely showcasing the potential of Malefic Roar and its comparative items within strict controls. Depending on many factors (the variables will be too many to realistically cover in a single video) such as Enemies’ Defense Scaling as well as your Hero’s damage scaling or Passives, results will still vary widely. As such, I highly encourage you to conduct your own tests, with your own Emblem Setups in Practice mode to discover your Heroes’ optimal builds. Good luck!
@@videoboi4204 Brody should be able to use Malefic Roar pretty well too. I haven't tested it to be sure, but getting it around 3rd or 4th item should be a good time for most builds and situations.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming eventually anyone will want to.... I don't usually even comment on stuff, but your content is truly something that we don't see that much. People rarely show the testing (never in that many scenarios), and the chart so we can compare the Old Vs New against different amount of armor is just great!!! There many creators recommending items, but not many actually showing why and when....
@@g6a0912 I watch him too, but I really like to actually see the data, specially when it shows different scenarios (like the different amount of armor). And strongwill content sometimes sounds as "this is the best because I told you so....", specially in the latest content, he's explaining less and less....
according to my calculation 1. MR only better than 30 flat pen at defense, higher than 95 (assassins/fighter). 2. MR only better than 15 flat pen at defense, higher than 55 (fighters). 3. MR better at any point if no flat pen used (most marksmen). You can get a quadratic equation if trying to solve for percentage pen, defence (x) and flat pen (30,15) x(20% + x(0.125%))>30 [flat pen, u can change this value to whatever flat pen neede] which gives 125x^2 + 20,000x - 3000,000=0
Been recently looking out your channel to discuss about the new Malefic Roar, as the main counter core item built by Fighters to deal even gaining damage against early ones, the Percentage Penetration decrease is a nerf, and the Perc PEN/Phys Def does not benefit still. I gradually stopped buying this item and now continue prioritizing the squishy ones, it is only a useful item when two or more Fighters/Tanks had built more Physical Defense. Raw Damage and Physical attack are what I needed because we all know that we assigned to slay off *squishy* ones.
Aye, it's only when there's like 2 to 3 beefy front line that you'll want Malefic. Sometimes even the squishies start building PHY DEF too which increases Malefic's value
As a dmg Ruby main ive stopped using malefic roar soon after the malefic roar nerf. Now I just build blade of despair for dmg instead, works well with endless battle and the additional atk when enemy health is low.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming Hey, is Ruby better as a roamer than an XP laner ? I am ruby main but mainly play her as roamer and my experience with xp lane Ruby has been decent at best. I either go blood lust + endless battle then full defensive or entirely full defensive if the counterpart is dealing too much and damage and my tank is doing a good job as a frontliner and we already have enough damage from the dps. But is a full tank ruby even viable for xp lane ??
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Yes ,.very helpful video. I changing my setup after watched.the video.anyway,.long time no see and glad to have this high quality video as usual from your channel. Keep up the good work!!
I always buy furry hamer and swap it for malefic as 6 slot. For the half price you gain higher pen than malefic until enemy have 60 armor. Since steel legplate nerf , squishy rarely build it in early game. Kinda how you use elegant gem as substitute for guardian sky helmet early game. For the cost of 400 gold you gain so much utility for the next 12~15 min
just came back to ml and noticed this nerf on malefic roar too, been trying to find and ask questions about this even on strongwill comment section for beatrix and finally, I found this, thanku rubyruby
I main Lesley so building one does not even cross my mind. Though if Lesley gets a mini revamp like changing her true damage to scaling with penetration like the first itiretion of her revamp then it's a possibility that I will build this item after Berserkers.
Okay, not only is this video useful for showcasing Malefic Roar's damage comparisons, but also the fact *i did not know* that apparently Blade of Despair is *that* good as Beatrix's first ever item, until now. Woah...
@@emmanelabam1251 I'm not too sure about Layla since I have not tested her. IMO she should probably be played with a Crit Build instead of maximizing on PHY ATK and PEN, so Crit build should be her optimal.
Malefic Roar for me is a plain item as intended. It does not have redeeming qualities against fellow PEN items Hunter Strike and Blade of Heptaseas, making you question yourself if MR is a good investment in the early and mid-game. That's why it's recommended as a late game item.
Really great video, but sometimes i have a hardtime choosing between using dhs or malefic when i want to kill their tank as mm which do you think is better if i can only build one of them? for both aspd and crit build
Thank you 💛 Well, it's hard to say without much context. I would say in general Malefic > DHS when enemy PHY DEF is high, so keep checking up on the scoreboard to see.
Coincidentally, I have been troubled by this issue recently. Now my opinion on Malefic Roar is: "Weird, weird". Why? The new Malefic Roar should not be used as an early game item but sometimes my enemies do it and are still very strong. When I play Saber recently, I always think about this question: "Should I buy it as a 3rd item?" It's very strange. Sometimes I buy it, it's very strong, and sometimes I buy it, it's very weak. Even if my enemy builds a defense item, the result will still be the same. Similarly, the results of Divine Glaive are the same, but I never buy Divine Glaive as an early game item. By the way, today I met a hacker Ruby. She bought Haas' Claws but Spell Vamp has the same amount as Bloodlust Axe and the same damage as Xavier.
Because it's Saber...after you finished buying BoH & Hunter.S, you can go straight to buy Malefic roar to make your pen. stronger(until -60), because BoD is simply expensive, and you might die several times when you are trying to build BoD
I haven't tested Saber, so I can't be sure. EB and Malefic both sound like decent options for the 3rd item - you should jump on Practice mode when you have the time to confirm which one is better. IMO the fight will be between EB, BOD, and MR.
@@Argus_Superstorm_777 I don't recommend endless with saber since you'd want him to be a burst type hero and endless isn't for burst heroes but for heroes that and spam skills and basic attacks in between (e.g freya, roger etc) he doesn't need the lifesteal and while the extra damage for basic attack after using skill is nice, BoH covers that
Yes, for sure. Cost efficiency should definitely be considered. But I tried to make it abit simpler to understand by not adding this concept into the video. 😄
Hey Ruby! What do you suggest for Granger? Hmm I've been building Malefic as 4 or 5th item all this after coming back from hiatus without knowing it got nerfed ot anything of the sort is BOD or Heptaseas a better choice? Or is it still viable to burst tankies all the same as before? Usually I never build BOD in last 6th item slot, I always take defense, semi-def(Rose Gold) or sometimes Antiheal Seahalberd 😅
Hi! Well, it all depends when enemies build Physical Defense. In general, 3rd or 4th item for Granger is pretty safe time to get it IMO. But if enemies don't build defense, you can even delay it to as the 5th item.
I haven't tested anything in-depth for Layla, but I believe Layla does not go with the PEN build and will instead build towards Crit such as Haas Claws, Berserker's Fury etc.
This may be a dumb question, but if i see malefic roar being built by the other team, would i be better off focusing on high health items plus the 1 or 2 magic def items?
I have one question is this itemization right you build three core items and two def items according to the enemy line up and I want to ask instead of using dragon spear on irithel and zilong you can use the support emblem with the tier 1 talent for 10 percent mvt speed and plus the healing effect
I'd rather use Assassin's Emblem on Irithel/Zilong. Yes, you don't get as much movement speed as Support Emblem, but the base PHY PEN from the emblem stats helps alot with your early game damage.
You should discuss if cod and lightning truncheon are lightning are still viable pick for mages like Kagura. People say her and other burst mage damage were nerfed after they changed lt. If so what are now the more optimal builds ?
If not for this video, I would not have realized that Malefic Roar does not work so well with Dyrroth since it reduces Phy Def.. so I'm guessing heroes who reduce Phy Def does not work so well with Malefic Roar... like Saber's S1?
Dyrroth is kind of a special case since he has a very high % PEN on his S2 which means it's so strong even till the late game. For Saber, all his attacks can reduce PHY DEF, including his S1, but because it's a flat reduction and the scaling isn't that high, he can still use Malefic Roar pretty effectively against enemies who build high PHY DEF.
First item Divine Glaive is a big nono for any Mage hero, whether multi-hit or not. Unless the entire enemy team is building a high amount of Magic Defense early (which is extremely rare), you should at least delay it until your 3rd item, and focus on building your core items first.
Can you do another video on magic penetration ? Only 2 items only. Then another video on 3 phys + 2 magic penetration on esme , bane and natan who passive benefit on both side . Who know this may open up new wave of meta call pure pene meta ? Can't wait to see that. Hope one day get adopt in M5 competition that your channel sure got. Boomed overnight
Sea Halberd will be mainly for the anti-lifesteal effect, since I believe BOD will definitely out-damage it. I can't say for sure but I'm pretty confident. I'd rather have a combination of DomIce+BOD rather than Sea Halberd on Dyrroth tbh 🤔
how about divine glaive and genius wand can i use them together? Well you can but how about their passive GW reduce magic defend and DG passive is based on enemy magic defense
Damn i kinda wanna know whats better as a first tier emblem, the rapture or thrill that gives 16 adaptive Attack my mates been sayin thrill is better than rapture but rn im not sure of it is
Haven't gone into in-depth testing so it's hard to say for me. I would think Rupture is generally good, especially on heroes that build lots of PEN, and those that have in-built abilities that provide PEN or DEF reductions.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming yeah thats kinda the same for me, i think rapture is just good because you can get flat pen much quicker early game with fury hammer
I still see Brody players build it as the third item, i build blade of despair as third item insted it worked better for me, I still build melfic roar in the late game
True Damage is already at maximum potential from the start of the game, since DEF does not affect it. Because of that, True Damage does not scale at all, but is already at the top of the scale from the start to the end.
Take note that these experiments are merely showcasing the potential of Malefic Roar and its comparative items within strict controls. Depending on many factors (the variables will be too many to realistically cover in a single video) such as Enemies’ Defense Scaling as well as your Hero’s damage scaling or Passives, results will still vary widely. As such, I highly encourage you to conduct your own tests, with your own Emblem Setups in Practice mode to discover your Heroes’ optimal builds. Good luck!
what about on brody?
@@videoboi4204 Brody should be able to use Malefic Roar pretty well too. I haven't tested it to be sure, but getting it around 3rd or 4th item should be a good time for most builds and situations.
Thanks very much for answering
@@RubyRubyRubyGamingdivine glaive next
Am I better than BoD?
DO NOT buy malefic roar on Dyrroth regardless of his adjustment. Why? Because his second skill reduces the enemy’s physical defense by 50%-75%.
Pretty much true. The experiments proved as much
And the adjustment (unless they nerf/revert this) make his 2nd skill goes up to 80% pen
Its not Pen.@@alzetilted33 its defense reduction. 2 different things.
Yea just buy damage for his ult
Is divine glaive is not also compatible with silvana?
Bro, you've got one of the best itemization content! Really hope you can post more regularly and even make some "feats" with other creators....
Thanks bro 💛 I'll see what I can do for collab content, if anyone even wants to do it with me 🤣
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming eventually anyone will want to....
I don't usually even comment on stuff, but your content is truly something that we don't see that much. People rarely show the testing (never in that many scenarios), and the chart so we can compare the Old Vs New against different amount of armor is just great!!!
There many creators recommending items, but not many actually showing why and when....
@@matheusdantas4757 Glad to get feedback from you, especially since you don't usually comment 💛
there's Strongwill for itemization as well, but he does less analysis in videos and more build/emblem recommendations (and reasoning)
@@g6a0912 I watch him too, but I really like to actually see the data, specially when it shows different scenarios (like the different amount of armor).
And strongwill content sometimes sounds as "this is the best because I told you so....", specially in the latest content, he's explaining less and less....
Malefic roar is better once the physical def reached around 70. Your item timing suggestions are on point.
Thank you 😇
77bor 76 to be exact I forgot
70 mean lv 15(for squishies)
And it's late game
So I'd suggest building something else before MR
according to my calculation
1. MR only better than 30 flat pen at defense, higher than 95 (assassins/fighter).
2. MR only better than 15 flat pen at defense, higher than 55 (fighters).
3. MR better at any point if no flat pen used (most marksmen).
You can get a quadratic equation if trying to solve for percentage pen, defence (x) and flat pen (30,15)
x(20% + x(0.125%))>30 [flat pen, u can change this value to whatever flat pen neede]
which gives
125x^2 + 20,000x - 3000,000=0
Been recently looking out your channel to discuss about the new Malefic Roar, as the main counter core item built by Fighters to deal even gaining damage against early ones, the Percentage Penetration decrease is a nerf, and the Perc PEN/Phys Def does not benefit still. I gradually stopped buying this item and now continue prioritizing the squishy ones, it is only a useful item when two or more Fighters/Tanks had built more Physical Defense. Raw Damage and Physical attack are what I needed because we all know that we assigned to slay off *squishy* ones.
Aye, it's only when there's like 2 to 3 beefy front line that you'll want Malefic. Sometimes even the squishies start building PHY DEF too which increases Malefic's value
Usually these said beefy fighter also have high HP so I just prefer dhs.
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As a dmg Ruby main ive stopped using malefic roar soon after the malefic roar nerf. Now I just build blade of despair for dmg instead, works well with endless battle and the additional atk when enemy health is low.
Ah, a damage Ruby enjoyer I see. Aye, EB's passive is best with BOD. But still, make sure to flex to Malefic if there's heavy PHY DEF.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming Hey, is Ruby better as a roamer than an XP laner ? I am ruby main but mainly play her as roamer and my experience with xp lane Ruby has been decent at best. I either go blood lust + endless battle then full defensive or entirely full defensive if the counterpart is dealing too much and damage and my tank is doing a good job as a frontliner and we already have enough damage from the dps. But is a full tank ruby even viable for xp lane ??
@@sarthakjoshi693 depends on the enemy
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Thank you so much for the kind message! I'll do my best 😁
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Yes ,.very helpful video. I changing my setup after watched.the video.anyway,.long time no see and glad to have this high quality video as usual from your channel. Keep up the good work!!
Appreciate you coming back bro! Glad you liked it 💛
I always buy furry hamer and swap it for malefic as 6 slot.
For the half price you gain higher pen than malefic until enemy have 60 armor.
Since steel legplate nerf , squishy rarely build it in early game.
Kinda how you use elegant gem as substitute for guardian sky helmet early game.
For the cost of 400 gold you gain so much utility for the next 12~15 min
Yeah, that's pretty fair. Well, most important is to just adjust as per what enemy builds 😀
Welcome back with a new video! Keep up the content!
Return of the king.
Much love my friend 💛
just came back to ml and noticed this nerf on malefic roar too, been trying to find and ask questions about this even on strongwill comment section for beatrix and finally, I found this, thanku rubyruby
Glad you found answers from here!
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Been waiting for your upload. Hope you'll do it more frequently.
I'll try 😅
I main Lesley so building one does not even cross my mind. Though if Lesley gets a mini revamp like changing her true damage to scaling with penetration like the first itiretion of her revamp then it's a possibility that I will build this item after Berserkers.
Okay, not only is this video useful for showcasing Malefic Roar's damage comparisons, but also the fact *i did not know* that apparently Blade of Despair is *that* good as Beatrix's first ever item, until now. Woah...
always has been
Never too late to know! Now you can also abuse it 😄
Hey what of Layla? I use Layla as my main. Should I also use the BOD and BOH with malefic roar?
@@RubyRubyRubyGamingIs it also useful with Layla?
@@emmanelabam1251 I'm not too sure about Layla since I have not tested her. IMO she should probably be played with a Crit Build instead of maximizing on PHY ATK and PEN, so Crit build should be her optimal.
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You're welcome my friend! Glad that it was helpful to you 😄
Malefic Roar for me is a plain item as intended. It does not have redeeming qualities against fellow PEN items Hunter Strike and Blade of Heptaseas, making you question yourself if MR is a good investment in the early and mid-game. That's why it's recommended as a late game item.
I think it actually more or less fulfilled Moonton's intention to finally make it more of a late game item counter to defense now.
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Thank you 💛 I'm glad you enjoyed it!
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You're most welcome! Which translation did you use? Was it good? 😁
Really great video, but sometimes i have a hardtime choosing between using dhs or malefic when i want to kill their tank as mm
which do you think is better if i can only build one of them? for both aspd and crit build
Thank you 💛 Well, it's hard to say without much context. I would say in general Malefic > DHS when enemy PHY DEF is high, so keep checking up on the scoreboard to see.
Coincidentally, I have been troubled by this issue recently. Now my opinion on Malefic Roar is: "Weird, weird". Why? The new Malefic Roar should not be used as an early game item but sometimes my enemies do it and are still very strong. When I play Saber recently, I always think about this question: "Should I buy it as a 3rd item?" It's very strange. Sometimes I buy it, it's very strong, and sometimes I buy it, it's very weak. Even if my enemy builds a defense item, the result will still be the same. Similarly, the results of Divine Glaive are the same, but I never buy Divine Glaive as an early game item. By the way, today I met a hacker Ruby. She bought Haas' Claws but Spell Vamp has the same amount as Bloodlust Axe and the same damage as Xavier.
Because it's Saber...after you finished buying BoH & Hunter.S, you can go straight to buy Malefic roar to make your pen. stronger(until -60), because BoD is simply expensive, and you might die several times when you are trying to build BoD
@@distrillbe1928 What about Endless Battle? I usually build it for True Damage and Hybrid Lifesteal, buy it after Malefic Roar?
I haven't tested Saber, so I can't be sure. EB and Malefic both sound like decent options for the 3rd item - you should jump on Practice mode when you have the time to confirm which one is better. IMO the fight will be between EB, BOD, and MR.
@@Argus_Superstorm_777 Yes
@@Argus_Superstorm_777 I don't recommend endless with saber since you'd want him to be a burst type hero and endless isn't for burst heroes but for heroes that and spam skills and basic attacks in between (e.g freya, roger etc) he doesn't need the lifesteal and while the extra damage for basic attack after using skill is nice, BoH covers that
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i go immortal every seasons, but even a lot of people in the tier don't know this detail, i am really helped with this
Nice to see immortal players finding the information here useful too 😄
I wonder if we should also consider the price of the item into consideration when prioritizing what item to buy early
Yes, for sure. Cost efficiency should definitely be considered. But I tried to make it abit simpler to understand by not adding this concept into the video. 😄
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Thank you, I'll try to do it more 😄
good explaination. tks!
Hey Ruby!
What do you suggest for Granger?
Hmm
I've been building Malefic as 4 or 5th item all this after coming back from hiatus without knowing it got nerfed ot anything of the sort
is BOD or Heptaseas a better choice? Or is it still viable to burst tankies all the same as before?
Usually I never build BOD in last 6th item slot, I always take defense, semi-def(Rose Gold) or sometimes Antiheal Seahalberd 😅
Hi! Well, it all depends when enemies build Physical Defense. In general, 3rd or 4th item for Granger is pretty safe time to get it IMO. But if enemies don't build defense, you can even delay it to as the 5th item.
You did a really great job! Should post more often😊
Thank you! 😊 I'll try
This is some quality content right there!
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The penetration percentage got nerfed. Any new suggestions for that?
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Great explanation
Keep up the great work
Thank you 😇 I'll do my best
Useful video, bro 👍 Thanks
No worries. Glad to hear it is good 😄
If I build Martis with 2 dmg items, would you use BOD or Malefic roar? I build Hunter Strike as my first item
I would go BOD so that the Ult damage is higher
Hey, wonderful guide as always. I want to ask if i can use that beatrix build on Layla.
I haven't tested anything in-depth for Layla, but I believe Layla does not go with the PEN build and will instead build towards Crit such as Haas Claws, Berserker's Fury etc.
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Glad to be back 💛
My advice
If enemy have heroes like fredrine,gloo
And you are a skill caster for example Clint u can buy melefic as 2nd item after endless battle
Mmm, haven't tested Clint after the nerfs, but unless I'm going against a full tank lineup, I most likely won't go for malefic 2nd item after EB.
Loved ur video bro, please keep making videos of recent adjustment, it helps us a lot. ❤
Please make videos more often
Glad to hear you loved it. I'll try to make more 💛
Blade of despair will always become my fav legendary item
Good choice
Such a good work u ve done again
Thanks a lot
Thank you 🙏
The OG old Malefic roar used to give extra damage to turrets. Bane abused that and it got revamped. Good times 🤣😂
The good ol days~
I thought it still worked wawaaaa
True, bane was a menace back then, ending games and soloing enemy bases with his passive😂
I think I have found a very useful channel👍, thanks for the explanation 🙏🏼
Happy to hear that!
I have a question. Will buying both blade7 and hunter strike waste their unique attribute?
The unique +15 Physical Penetration will stack for +30 Physical Penetration if you buy both items
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming So, I just can't have 2 fury hammers at the same time?
very well explained! excelent sir
Glad you liked it!
This may be a dumb question, but if i see malefic roar being built by the other team, would i be better off focusing on high health items plus the 1 or 2 magic def items?
pretty much yeah you can, but you can still go antique quirass not for the def, but for the phys damage reduction
This would probably be a very advanced but interesting topic for some players who are interested
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming i wonder since it feels like im literally HELPING the enemy, by increasing their dmg against me via equiping high def items.
Since Malefic Roar got adjusted this patch (Nov 6, 2024), please do a follow up video on this
Buy MR if there are enemy try to counter your damage early usually but MF after 2 damage item since MF only damage cant do much in early game.
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I have one question is this itemization right you build three core items and two def items according to the enemy line up and I want to ask instead of using dragon spear on irithel and zilong you can use the support emblem with the tier 1 talent for 10 percent mvt speed and plus the healing effect
I'd rather use Assassin's Emblem on Irithel/Zilong. Yes, you don't get as much movement speed as Support Emblem, but the base PHY PEN from the emblem stats helps alot with your early game damage.
Agree
I wanna can you do a comparison between crit and dhs + gs using malefic roar
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Thank you! 💛 BTW, I'm not from Malaysia 🤣
You should discuss if cod and lightning truncheon are lightning are still viable pick for mages like Kagura. People say her and other burst mage damage were nerfed after they changed lt. If so what are now the more optimal builds ?
Yo yt hasn't recommended a video from u in ages
When were there 40 videos💀
Oh well, it's nice to see 2 new videos to watch hahahah
Well most if it are actually streams ig. Thanks for coming back tho! 💛
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If not for this video, I would not have realized that Malefic Roar does not work so well with Dyrroth since it reduces Phy Def.. so I'm guessing heroes who reduce Phy Def does not work so well with Malefic Roar... like Saber's S1?
Dyrroth is kind of a special case since he has a very high % PEN on his S2 which means it's so strong even till the late game. For Saber, all his attacks can reduce PHY DEF, including his S1, but because it's a flat reduction and the scaling isn't that high, he can still use Malefic Roar pretty effectively against enemies who build high PHY DEF.
Only dyroth is an exception, you can add zilong as second to dyroth with zilong percentage pen which is a little lower than dyroths pen
@@rafflesiadeathcscent3507 Wrong. Dyrroth AND Sun are exemptions to malefic roar. Bruno though…
Mpl seasons has started and i see lot of Karrie build malefic, I always think it's better to build windtalker, have you crunch the number?
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Glad to know my guides have helped you with ranking up! Also, great job reaching MH bro. MG next season?
will you make another video for the adjusted divine glaive?
I'm planning to!
Bro came out of his cave just to explain about malefic roar
Sunlight burns my skin, so I have to pick my timing 🤣
Quick question is divine glave good for early it's my first item for multi hit hero like guin,yve,malthida,valir,pharsa,odette,harley
First item Divine Glaive is a big nono for any Mage hero, whether multi-hit or not. Unless the entire enemy team is building a high amount of Magic Defense early (which is extremely rare), you should at least delay it until your 3rd item, and focus on building your core items first.
I have always bought malefic roar as a mid/lategame item, so I guess I have no need to adjust
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🤣 Why Spell Vamp tho?
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming Because of your name hahaha
Oh yeah, true 🤣🤣🤣
Can you do another video on magic penetration ? Only 2 items only. Then another video on 3 phys + 2 magic penetration on esme , bane and natan who passive benefit on both side . Who know this may open up new wave of meta call pure pene meta ? Can't wait to see that. Hope one day get adopt in M5 competition that your channel sure got. Boomed overnight
Interesting ideas, I'll see if I have time to look into it! Thanks 💛
What about sea halberd over BoD for the 3rd item for Dyroth? Given its the sustain meta now
Sea Halberd will be mainly for the anti-lifesteal effect, since I believe BOD will definitely out-damage it. I can't say for sure but I'm pretty confident.
I'd rather have a combination of DomIce+BOD rather than Sea Halberd on Dyrroth tbh 🤔
Thank you bro ❤
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We need this kind of this video for other item.....
There will be more 😇
Bro changed my whole perspective
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Still dont get why hunter strike doesnt work with terizla ult
Bro can I ask what's the difference between extra and total physical scaling
Total is the sum of Base + Extra. Extra is from any source besides the Hero's base stats. These includes from emblems, items, skins, etc.
how about divine glaive and genius wand can i use them together? Well you can but how about their passive GW reduce magic defend and DG passive is based on enemy magic defense
Well, I'm working on this... hehe
Waiting for the stream ruby ❤️☝️
💛 I'll see if I can squeeze in a stream
BOD is a perfect item for Dyroth even though few people use it. He can make full use of its passive using his ult and s2
Agreed.
@@myopiamlbbI only buy it in late game when full build in early to mid game I focus on penetration
I mean, considering he can already deal insane damage even with just the two pen items, I don't even buy BOD most of the time.
I do hunter strike early to mid then switch it to rose gold/bod, the rest are defensive items.
Genuinely one of the best channels for ML players!! Just wished you'd upload more 😭
More to come! 💛
I wonder how to counter malefic roar + demon hunter sword? Just asking
Can u make comparison on lifesteal item on mm attacking thornmail item with spell vegance? Pls notice sempai 😙
Do you mean Blade Armor + Vengeance?
Damn i kinda wanna know whats better as a first tier emblem, the rapture or thrill that gives 16 adaptive Attack my mates been sayin thrill is better than rapture but rn im not sure of it is
Haven't gone into in-depth testing so it's hard to say for me. I would think Rupture is generally good, especially on heroes that build lots of PEN, and those that have in-built abilities that provide PEN or DEF reductions.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming yeah thats kinda the same for me, i think rapture is just good because you can get flat pen much quicker early game with fury hammer
Oh welcome back
Thank you Ms. Yanfei. How's 4.0 so far?
Phone cant handle 😭
Time to get a loan from the Northland Bank
Argus mainers trying not to buy mallefic roar after enemy tank/fighter hit dominace ice:(Spongebob water meme)
I still see Brody players build it as the third item, i build blade of despair as third item insted it worked better for me, I still build melfic roar in the late game
Good plan
do you know how true damage scales throughout the match?
i still have 0 idea of how it scales
Its scales normally but it wont affected by any defense or any atk reduce if I'm not mistaken
True Damage is already at maximum potential from the start of the game, since DEF does not affect it. Because of that, True Damage does not scale at all, but is already at the top of the scale from the start to the end.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming i did not know that for like 6 years ever since ive started playing
I may subscribe...this is what i longed for since 6 months💀
I mean i already know kazuki/mgl / lot others but never subscribed
they don't dive deep
Well, thank you for considering to sub. Hope future videos will convince you to
you can buy malefic roar there's no limit armor penetration☺️
The return of the best item analyst
Thank you!💛
Can anyone tell me,on what type of heroes should i buy malefic roax and on whst type should i buy war axe
War Axe is more suitable for heroes that can maintain stacks before teamfights, or remain in fights for long. A good example is Alpha Jungle.
I always don't buy malefic when a hero has a broken armor passive such as dyrotth and saber i always go pure fast high dmg item
Smart
What a great video, thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Yokoso king💛
I'm still waiting for you to play Lesley 😂💛💛
Ngl I played abit of Lesley this season, she's pretty fun when you have a capable front line on your team, but kinda gets kinda iffy without 😎
YO HE BACK
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Improve the first passive of malafic to 25 percent.What do u all think?
Probably unnecessary IMO
Chou has high penetration on his second skill could you do a video on him
I'll see if I can do one in future