thank you Jake for your efforts. For people that are on the fence its important to hear both sides, although hearing Miko pushed me to the Israeli side since he gives absolutely ZERO agency for the actions of the Palestinians or khamas etc. Lets see if this guy gives some agency to the settlers or Zionists etc
A friend recommended reading Miko shortly after October 7. I feel like he is projecting his own unfounded feeling of guilt associated with the reality of state building. Like Rawan Osman said, “in order to build a state, you need statesmen.” Israel has statesmen, Palestine does not. Otherwise they wouldn’t stand for the obsession with the Jewish state and direct focus to building a strong Palestinian state.
I really don’t understand why Jake says Israel identifies as a Western country, why is this so hard for him to comprehend?! These are Western points that are irrelevant
@@barkerstreasure I can't speak for what proportion of Israelis think this way, but Netanyahu and every prime minister of Israel before him has presented Israel as a Western style democracy. You can read Netanyahu's recent speech to the U.S. congress, where he repeatedly calls Israel a democracy, says Israel is at the forefront of helping the U.S. defend Western civilization, and concludes by mentioning the U.S. and Israel's common civilization
The Quran is against the 7th of October… Moses killed a man of pharaohs people… “He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 ) The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin… “Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 ) Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians: Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help? No this conduct is effeminate Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will.. Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree… “ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 ) People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’ this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God… What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes… Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history. Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians? historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo… The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission… Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons.. Someone will say: but what about the children being killed? I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv. And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you? What is this nonsense? God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 ) so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power? Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands And is one soul cheaper than a million? Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity? Oh my people reap what you sow. And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God, and if they were defeated they say this is from America. Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 ) Facts: Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land? This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it And how do we know who lives in it? By their houses, and the established community. The land today belongs to Israel. Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque And does that justify transgression? Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 ) Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God… The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving… The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God… Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins “whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 ) And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy… But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel. However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
@@agniyabarsuk9756 Sure. The ever expanding, land stealing state wants to be left alone WHILE stealing land, imprisonating people and working for a greater Israel on other peoples land? Astonishing, right! Moshe Dayan This is over 60 years old about the foduning by a founder. "Before the Palestinians) very eyes we are possessing the land and the villages where they and their ancestors have lived We are the generation of colonizers and without the steel helmet and the gun barrel we cannot plant a tree and build a house." Moshe Dayan Astonishing, right?
The entire zi9naz1 jwsh project started with deceit. They had no intention of living in peace with the people of the lands ever. For education and info purposes only. Sourced online and books. Stating this because the comment gets deleted for hatevspeech. 1srael Zangwill, important political Zi0nst said in a talk in 1905, “(We) must be prepared either to drive out by the sw0rd the (Arab) Tribes in possession(of the land) as our forfathrs did or to grapple with the prblem of a large alien population, mostly Mhammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us.” Around 1928, Shabtai Levi, a land purchasing agent for Bar0n R0thschild wrote in his memoirs, “He (the Baron) advised me to carry on in similar activities, but it is better, he said, not to transfer the Arabs to Syria and Transj0rdan, as these are part of the Land of 1srael, but to Mesopotamia (Iraq), He added that in these cases he would be ready to send the Arabs, at his expense, new agricultural machines, and agricultural advisers.” Around 1930, Zi0nst Socialist (Mapai) leader, David Hac0hen wrote, “… I would not accept Arabs in my trade union, the Histadrut; to defend preaching to housewives that they not buy at Arab stores; to prevent Arab workers from getting jobs there… To pour kerosene on Arab tomatoes, to attack Jwsh housewives in the markets and smash the Arab eggs they had bought; to praise to the skies the Keren Kayemet that sent Hankin to Beirut to buy land from absentee effendi (landowners) and to throw the fellahin (peasant farmers) off the land - to buy dozens of dunams - from an Arab is permitted, but sell, God forbid, one Jwsh dunam to an Arab is prohibited.” Menahem Ussishkin, chairman of the Jwsh National Fund, and member of the executive of the Jwsh Agency, said in a 1930 speech to journalists, “We must continually raise the demand that our land be returned to our possession … if there are other inhabitants there, they must be transferred to some other place. We must take over the land.
trucks allowed into gaza centre point but the humanitarian agencies has very low efficiency by getting food and aid from centre point to the gazans who need it.
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla ask yourself why this is. The roads are bombed or razed. The checkpoints manned by zi9naz1 jwsh 0ccupation. COGAT makes it impossible for the trucks and aid workers to pass. They wait hours as told by COGAT only to be told they have to go back. When aid does get through, it's bombed immediately after its offloaded. The zi9naz1 jwsh terr0rist forces target the police forces who help facilitate the movement of people to collect the aid . The aids trucks are not allowed to stop for a second before reaching the destination or they bombed. The zi9naz1 jws are just letting aid through for show because they have to. Their American weapons depot won't be able to send the weapons if the least minimum aid is not let through.
The Quran is against the 7th of October… Moses killed a man of pharaohs people… “He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 ) The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin… “Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 ) Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians: Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help? No this conduct is effeminate Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will.. Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree… “ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 ) People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’ this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God… What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes… Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history. Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians? historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo… The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission… Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons.. Someone will say: but what about the children being killed? I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv. And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you? What is this nonsense? God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 ) so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power? Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands And is one soul cheaper than a million? Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity? Oh my people reap what you sow. And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God, and if they were defeated they say this is from America. Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 ) Facts: Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land? This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it And how do we know who lives in it? By their houses, and the established community. The land today belongs to Israel. Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque And does that justify transgression? Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 ) Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God… The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving… The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God… Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins “whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 ) And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy… But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel. However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
@@jakenewfield Watching both, I think it may be a combo of (1) the argument presented by Yishai is closer to home for those who have grown up Jewish and Zionist, and (2) Jake probably felt more comfortable talking to Miko for whatever reason; being in person was probably part of that. Could it reveal a latent bias? It could, but that will be Jake's process to figure out as he goes on in his life. In the Miko interview, Jake is clearly disturbed that people in a concentration camp aren't showing more sympathy to Israeli civilians, and Miko was laser focused on root cause & actions to stop the root cause, looking at things in the big picture as opposed to letting a detail drive the big theme. Miko's point was the cause is occupation, and occupation creates a bunch of terrible details; don't let details turn into the narrative, as they are a consequence. We saw that strongly in the point when Jake asked, "If Gaza had a better government/life" and Miko refocused and said that a blockaded/isolated Gaza should not exist in the first place, a Gaza of refugees should not exist. I think that framing is a shock to anyone, and could be part of why Jake pushed back a lot. If you remove the emotions and bravado from how Miko speaks, he seems to be very correct in this. Bringing us back to "bias", I think Miko's end comments about Jake were right - Jake isn't stupid at all, he is clearly trying to process all of these ideas in real time to figure out what truly makes sense to him. A good faith actor can't be convinced in a single debate, but let us hopefully not get Piers Morgan's "reset" button after every discussion. It will be interesting to see how he evolves.
@@jakenewfield i think its a disgrace for the family of your wife to form a family with a Zionist like you are one, what is the worst is after seeing your interview with Miko i know you aren`t stupid, so you know what is going on but are denying it. wake up!!!! after all your children will be arabs as well
The Quran is against the 7th of October… Moses killed a man of pharaohs people… “He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 ) The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin… “Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 ) Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians: Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help? No this conduct is effeminate Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will.. Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree… “ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 ) People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’ this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God… What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes… Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history. Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians? historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo… The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission… Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons.. Someone will say: but what about the children being killed? I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv. And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you? What is this nonsense? God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 ) so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power? Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands And is one soul cheaper than a million? Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity? Oh my people reap what you sow. And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God, and if they were defeated they say this is from America. Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 ) Facts: Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land? This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it And how do we know who lives in it? By their houses, and the established community. The land today belongs to Israel. Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque And does that justify transgression? Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 ) Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God… The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving… The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God… Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins “whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 ) And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy… But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel. However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
The Quran is against the 7th of October… Moses killed a man of pharaohs people… “He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 ) The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin… “Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 ) Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians: Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help? No this conduct is effeminate Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will.. Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree… “ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 ) People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’ this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God… What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes… Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history. Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians? historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo… The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission… Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons.. Someone will say: but what about the children being killed? I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv. And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you? What is this nonsense? God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 ) so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power? Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands And is one soul cheaper than a million? Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity? Oh my people reap what you sow. And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God, and if they were defeated they say this is from America. Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 ) Facts: Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land? This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it And how do we know who lives in it? By their houses, and the established community. The land today belongs to Israel. Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque And does that justify transgression? Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 ) Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God… The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving… The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God… Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins “whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 ) And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy… But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel. However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
7:21 these rockets were not sent out of the blue. Israel encroached on a sovereign state and killed Ismael in a guesthouse just to sabotage the negotiations. How does one kill the person you're negotiating with and call yourself the most moral army in the world? Who are u kidding 🤣🤣🤣
Whenever you associate Jews and Nazis just remember that the Arabs in Palestine have had much more natural, close relationship with the Nazis. They planned on mass anhilation of Jews way before Israel was established and they never gave up on this agenda since then.
The Quran is against the 7th of October… Moses killed a man of pharaohs people… “He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 ) The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin… “Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 ) Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians: Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help? No this conduct is effeminate Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will.. Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree… “ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 ) People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’ this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God… What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes… Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history. Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians? historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo… The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission… Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons.. Someone will say: but what about the children being killed? I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv. And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you? What is this nonsense? God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 ) so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power? Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands And is one soul cheaper than a million? Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity? Oh my people reap what you sow. And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God, and if they were defeated they say this is from America. Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 ) Facts: Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land? This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it And how do we know who lives in it? By their houses, and the established community. The land today belongs to Israel. Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque And does that justify transgression? Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 ) Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God… The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving… The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God… Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins “whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 ) And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy… But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel. However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
7:21 they're not ancient. They're modern European Jews. Ethiopian Jews are forced to recornvert before going into Israel but none of the Europeans have to do that. Even though the majority of those migrating to Israel are atheists. How does that work though? U don't believe in God but I believe he gave u land 😂😂😂 wow
"Every jurist in the world knows that the Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with us... serious jurists have made minced meat out of that argument" lol wut? 2 ICJ advisory opinions, 20 years apart, with different judges, stated that the settlements are illegal. The 2024 advisory opinion stated that all the settlers have to be evacuated.
The difference between these two viewpoints is that Yishai lives in the reality of the Middle Eastern region. Unlike a few sadly diluted Western Jews, Yishai and his family's lives are on the line, and they have real skin in the game.
@@droptableaccount1820 correct. the U.S literally invaded Iraq after advise from Netenyahu to do so, just to find NO wmd. now they are doing same for iran.
Why can't people ever just stand on their beliefs? Bro said Isreal is a Jewish state and that none jews will have less rights and thus be less equal, but he refuses to accept that's what he's saying and instead deflects with, oh equality is a western value and not a middle eastern value. Like bro just stand on it. Just say I'm comfortable with none jews having less rights to maintain the Jewish state while also incorporating none jews
What I think Jake is missing is the honesty of human history. Empathy and understanding don't lead to peace, nuclear bombs and eradication of the enemy do. Understanding the Japanese boy who grew up watching his homeland nuked may sound noble but at the end of day except virtue signaling it won't actually lead to peace. Allowing the Germans to retain the Reich instead of unconditional surrender AND occupation wouldn't lead to peace. Bleeding hearts aren't a policy and aren't relevant to conflict resolution in all of human history. I challenge you Jake to present me a single case in human history where empathy solved conflicts.
6:19 Jews also have their children in settlement concerts (intended to relocate Gaza). There's even a song with a music video where Jewish children are singing "kill them all, the sons of Amalek" referring to Palestinians 🙆🏿♂️
Jake’s question are dumb. “Do you think people of lebanon like to get bombed?”Oversimplified based on lazy or dishonest premises. 😂 this guy is nasty. He is a david pakman student.
It’s called uti possidetis juris: The principle would dictate that Israel's borders are the same as the boundaries of the Mandate of Palestine in May 1948. This would support Israel's claims to the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip
4:32 terms like "ethnic state" are a racist in nature. It's like saying all "American Indians" have the right to America the same way Jews do in Israel. Imagine if every country had to do that 🤷🏿♂️
@@Femmeaesthetic like Palestine was, then stolen. And now it's destroying the European colonizers and rightfully turning back to Palestine. Over 2 million already ran out and aren't returning
The Quran is against the 7th of October… Moses killed a man of pharaohs people… “He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 ) The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin… “Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 ) Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians: Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help? No this conduct is effeminate Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will.. Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree… “ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 ) People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’ this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God… What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes… Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history. Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians? historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo… The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission… Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons.. Someone will say: but what about the children being killed? I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv. And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you? What is this nonsense? God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 ) so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power? Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands And is one soul cheaper than a million? Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity? Oh my people reap what you sow. And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God, and if they were defeated they say this is from America. Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 ) Facts: Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land? This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it And how do we know who lives in it? By their houses, and the established community. The land today belongs to Israel. Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque And does that justify transgression? Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 ) Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God… The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving… The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God… Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins “whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 ) And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy… But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel. However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
This old chestnut. You do realise that the US and Europe are the primary beneficiaries of Israeli intelligence and not the other way round. Only the Jews in Israel can blend in with the Arab world, understand every dialect and cultural norm and do things no US or European intelligence agency can. As for raw military aid - we know the US DOD is dying to know what secret advances are in the new Israeli jet that can outperform the Raptor. The US and Israel are in a mutually symbiotic WIN-WIN relationship and long may it last.
37:16 “I hope it escalates.” Yishai has betrayed the people of Israel with this unmasking statement. He is so sure Iran doesn’t have a nuclear bomb. I pray for him.
The Quran is against the 7th of October… Moses killed a man of pharaohs people… “He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 ) The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin… “Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 ) Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians: Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help? No this conduct is effeminate Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will.. Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree… “ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 ) People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’ this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God… What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes… Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history. Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians? historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo… The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission… Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons.. Someone will say: but what about the children being killed? I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv. And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you? What is this nonsense? God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 ) so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power? Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands And is one soul cheaper than a million? Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity? Oh my people reap what you sow. And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God, and if they were defeated they say this is from America. Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 ) Facts: Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land? This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it And how do we know who lives in it? By their houses, and the established community. The land today belongs to Israel. Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque And does that justify transgression? Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 ) Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God… The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving… The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God… Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins “whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 ) And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy… But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel. However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
Me, and most of the Israelis I know, agree with Fleisher. You would not ask Churchill in 1942 what is the solution post war with Europe, there are still 3 years more of WWII to be done. The solutions in Germany and Japan started 3 YEARS after the end of the war in 1948 with the Marshall Plan and the 4D's.
@@michaelpesin946Dude... Fortunately most of israeli don't agree with you, you are making a dissevice to your country by stating so because you're relegating Israel to a pariah state.
@@OverheadDoji The Israelis that don't agree with me live in the center of the most liberal city in Israel, Tel Aviv, and are so few that they can't get enough votes for representation in the Israeli senate.
The fact you think this way just shows how toxic your ideological possession is. Your brain is fried if you think this was a debate. This was an interview/discussion. Yishai is just so toxic and smug for no reason. He makes this entire interview so antagonistic for no reason. And to be clear I support Israel and hate Hamas and think Palestinians are largely radical. This guy is just an extremist on the other side of the spectrum
International law determines that when a state/country declares independence, the border lines at the time are what determine the border lines of the new state/country. This included the “West Bank” that Jordan occupied between the war of independence and the 1967 war when Israel liberated it.
@@droptableaccount1820 There was no such thing a palestinian nation, the Arabs back then didn't identify Palestinian before 1960s, the whole palestinian identity among Arabs was created sowly on the base of destroying Israel
Yeah though that might be a good thing 'cos a lot of people online are like that! Jake is like a quicker version of Lex but probably without the academic background!
Your questions are infantile in their complexity. They are all so level zero. Does a Lebanese citizen want to be bombed? Should we be like Sadaam Hussein? Does a 14 year old in an extremist school get expelled in this system? These do nothing to add to the conversation and base notions that are a roadblock to peace.
This war is religious and not territorial per se. Territory is embeded into the religion. Jews are fighting for the right to live on their ancestral land. Muslims are fighting for the world domination and spread of Islam everywhere. One is in the fight for survival, the other is for the world domination. For Jews being so close to their ideological arch enemies is definitely very challenging. I hope that Islam is going to reform itself and become more tolerant as we are seeing in many Arab countries. If Arabs can live with Jews and others in the region, the Jews will have no beef with them because it is not in their interest to conquer the lands.
My boy you don't understand a thing about this conflict. This "religious" narrative is added on top of a conflict that have nothing religious at his core to make it seem unsolvable. There are religious extremists on both sides and sure more people suffer more they'll be inclined do adopt a religious justification for their actions. That said this is a conflict about land not god.
Love Yishai. No apologies. So smart and reasonable. Never thought I would like someone categorized as a “settler,” but he makes such a great case for the world’s only Jewish state.
@@theisraelig5162 nope, Israel still controlled the borders, sea and sky of Gaza. They controlled the water and electricity. The people of Gaza had nothing but diy paragliders and old guns and they humiliated the IDF. The occupation is solely responsible for Oct 7th. Some settlement land being given back hardly matters in the logistics of a military blitz. Without the occupation, Oct 7th wouldn’t have happened. Without a sovereign Gaza Oct 7th would still happen, no matter how much land the Israelis take
@@theisraelig5162 nope, Israel still controlled the borders, sea and sky of Gaza. They controlled the water and electricity. The people of Gaza had nothing but diy paragliders and old guns and they humiliated the IDF. The occupation is solely responsible for Oct 7th. Some settlement land being given back hardly matters in the logistics of a military blitz. Without the occupation, Oct 7th wouldn’t have happened. Without a sovereign Gaza Oct 7th would still happen, no matter how much land the Israelis take
Wonderful discussion. The vision Yishai is offering is Israel as a state which is more similar to the UAE and Saudi Arabia than to the US or a European country. In such states there are relatively few citizens who are very priviliged and rich, and many outside workers who get paid very little and have few rights. The question which remains to be seen is if such a state is something most jews in Israel will want, will they want to keep sacrifcing their lives for such state, and is it even sustainable in the long term. For me personally, as an Israeli jew, the answer is no. I'd rather live in a state with a much more democratic ethos. As long as I remain free enough to struggle for such a state (with freedom and equality at its core), I'll do it.
💯 Anyone who can’t comprehend this is a spoiled ignorant useful western idiot because they refuse to understand how Middle East is or Arab culture. They aren’t crying about Lebanon, Jordan, or Turkey, all who claim to be democracies lmfao
There already is a State. The State of Israel. Those areas are, always have, and should have always remained part of Israel. Due to the invasion from the so-called Palestinians (actually Arab descent and other) has created conflicts that should have never arised nor existed.
There already is a State. The State of Israel. Those areas are, always have, and should have always remained part of Israel. Due to the invasion from the so-called Palestinians (actually Arab descent and other) has created conflicts that should have never arised nor existed.
There already is a State. The State of Israel. Those areas are, always have, and should have always remained part of Israel. Due to the invasion from the so-called Palestinians (actually Arab descent and other) has created conflicts that should have never arised nor existed.
I think he's great. His position is the perfect argument for America totally cutting off support for Israel. He makes it clear that there are ZERO shared values between the two societies.
Thank you Jake for bringing Yishai to your listeners to hear a new vision of how Israel can be a part of making the Middle East flourish for ALL - Muslims Jews, Christians.
a speech in July, 1938, Ben-Gurion said, “In the proposal of transferring the Arab population from the area, if it is possible voluntarily and if not by coercion, it would be possible to expand the Jewish settlement…The basic difference with the Commission proposal is that the transfer will be on a much larger scale, from the Jewish to the Arab territory;. If it were possible to transfer Arabs from one village to another within the British Mandate - it is difficult to find any political or moral argument against the transfer of these Arabs from the proposed Jewish-ruled area…. And is there any need to explain the value in a continuous Jewish Yishuv…”. Also in July, 1938, Yosef Bankover, founding member of the Kibbutz Hameuhad movement and member of the Haganah Regional Command, said, “…as for compulsory transfer, as a member of Kibbutz Ramat Hakovesh, I would be very pleased if it would be possible to be rid of the pleasant neighbourliness of the people of Miski, Tirah and Qalqilyah.”. Another leader of the Kibbutz Hameuhad movement, Aharon Zisling said, “I do not contest our moral right to propose population transfer. There is no moral flaw in a proposal aimed at concentrating the development of national life. On the contrary: in a new world order it can and should be a noble human vision…”. Then in August, 1938, Berl Katznelson, a labor leader, wrote, “The matter of population transfer has provoked a debate among us: Is it permitted or forbidden? My conscience is absolutely clear in this respect. A remote neighbour is better than a close enemy. They will not lose from being transferred and we most certainly will not lose from it…. But it never crossed my mind that transfer to outside the Land of Israel would mean merely to the vicinity of Nablus, I have always believed and still believe that they were destined to be transferred to Syria or Iraq.”.
23:09 conquered Canan and renamed it to their own names. So did the Arabs and so did Britain and now Israel is continuing the legacy. Abraham went there to land grab, hence his descendants are still on the mission. Ur own scriptures say there were people he found there and conquered.
One part of me thinks Fleisher is extreme and that Jake is right, but another part likes Yishai and makes me wonder if he's right. He has a sort of welcoming charm, although he's very passionate and intense, and that combination is unusual when it comes to this topic.
He is one of the few you'll see who's born here. More Israelis are born here of Israeli parents and Grandparents than the births in all other 1st world countries. Hope I said that right.
The man is genocidal and in the "the solution" he gave out was in a nutshell to enslave the Palestinians as second class residents not willing to call them citizens of the land they lived in for over a thousand years continuously. This is not about a religion nor ethnicity. It's about a genocidal in progress and misrepresentation of the facts that we can see on tape.
What I appreciate is that Yishai is upfront and says it how it is. You need to understand the Middle East and how it works. The West is constantly meddling with their point of view that is foreign to the region. The Islamists have learned how to play the westerners and use it to their advantage all the time. They speak out of the two sides of the mouth by being brazen and vicious in their Arabic addresses and playing victims for the West. That is sneaky and disingenuous and confuses the Western folks into becoming empathetic. The reality is how the guest is saying it. This is a brutal war for survival of Jewish people and non-muslim in the middle east. Jews and many others are in minority and they don't have a luxury to stretch this conflict forever. Muslims are many and time has no significance in their religion. Allah is eternal and the quest of Muslim domination could last forever.
Iran gets American taxpayers' money. Israel buys weapons from American companies and is an invaluable intelligence ally for the US. Get the facts. Now why was this reply deleted the first time? Because it says the truth?
48:15 There are two ways to crack an egg. From the outside, for a failed state, and from the inside, for a viable new one. Yishai’s scrambled post-traumatic morals are not divinely inspired.
All the people in the comments who don't like that Jake brought someone like Yishai Fleischer, don't worry, when Jake brings good people from the other side, he edits them and does what he can to try to make them not right. So you don't have to be mad, Jake isn't really looking for the truth, he only listens to one side and keeps it, the truth doesn't interest him
I also didn't like when he edited the video with Doron and when he always tried to take pressure off his friend and put pressure on Doron But I realized that this is probably the channel to pretend that you are listening to everyone when the truth is that you want to find a good solution for one side to help and listen to only one side and ignore the truth.
On the last question: there was a viral video of a palestinian man shouting on the top of his lungs, after losing one of his loved ones, cursing Hamas for bringing this war upon the palestinians
Jake, I thought the way you do when I was in college, but I’m 50 now and granting all people equality in Israel would be a disaster because there are millions of Jihadists within Israel’s borders who would use their freedom to wipe out the Jews.
Jihad means "spirtual struggle." You're a jihadist. If the Jews stand between Arabs and their freedom, then it's appropriate to call their struggle for liberation "jihad," but so too, then, is the Jewish conquest to keep Arabs from self-determining, even if for the sake of a belief which dictates to them that Arabs, intrinsically, have it out for Jewish people. Jihad, in itself, has nothing to do with murdering anybody. You're just cynically interpreting a spiritual concept you make no effort to understand, or recognize the legitimacy of and painting Jews as victims in a struggle that Zionists very much have brought on themselves by coming to Palestine with the intention of establishing a Jewish ethno-nation state in an Arab region. Just spare the world the theatrics, and the moralizing, and the antics, and just be the imperialists that you are because it'd be much easier for all of us, including yourself, to stomach. Trust me.
If they’re already living in Israel there is nothing stopping them from being jihadist. I’m sure there are radicals in their population but this is obviously a tremendous minority of the Arabs in Israel.
I am new to his channel and only watched 3 debates so far. Jake is great at both understanding the person as well as arguing sometimes as devils advocate and other times from what appears to be his values. He seems fair and balanced to me and reminds me of the quote from Maimonides 'Every one should consider themselves equally balanced between innocence and guilt'
Jake needs to read an overview of Jewish history and he can read strictly non religious one at that because he doesn’t know basic facts about it and is trying to argue
All you have to do is listen to this guy to understand the entire issue. If hamas didnt exist and there was no resistance, israel would take over gaza and the west bank. That's literally why the resistance exists, the Palestinians dont want the state of israel taking over their land and so they have to fight back. It really is that simple.
@jjthomas8171 they wanted to live in peace on their own land without being treated like second class citizens. This is the hunger games in real life where Israel is the capital and Palestinians are district 13. Israel has slaughtered over 40 thousand people and disabled who knows how many. All 2 million residents of Gaza had their lives destroyed. How do you recover from that? How do you go back to "normal" after everything you know and love has been destroyed? This is indefensible and unbelievable that there people who live in 2024 and have zero consideration for human life outside of themselves. Ignoring the suffering that's right in front of your eyes, then victimising them on top to further justify the aggression.
Bs, a Russian immigrant to Greece can easily call himself Greek or European all he wants. I might be an immigrant to Israel from Japan and call myself an Israeli that happens to be in ME , you know, geography wise. ME is not a nationality.
@@NeverAgain316But, Yishai’s ethnicity is both Russian/Jewish. One of his parent was Russian. Do you understand. From what he explained in one of his previous videos.
Yishai's answer of giving residency to the Palestinians doesn't resolve the conflict. Why should Palestinians accept not being allowed to vote in the country in which they reside?
Israel doesn’t owe anything to these people who want their destruction. Residency perhaps mixed with a local Palestinian government may work. It’s going to take years of de radicalisation before anything moves forward.
Literally treating people less than second class citizens. Imagine if trump said America is a christian state and only christians should be allowed to vote.
Maybe because of 2 reasons. 1. There is no country or state called palestine. There is no borders or capital or people's 2. Arabs do vote in Israel. And Arabs in Israel at 85% call themselves Israeli. They know palestine is a lie invented in 1964
@@kariemallam3618 You can perceive us as you like, we don't owe our Lives to westernism, we will do as fit to guarantee our security and stability. Also nobody is claiming we aren't western, but if being an ethno state just like the west was historically and most muslim countries nowadays are makes you non western so be it.
Israel is located in the middle east what do you expect? USA gives foreign aid to other countries you got anything to say about that? Iranian people have western values so are you gonna say anything about that as well?
The interviewer seems contrarian without any real understanding. Very emotional response with a big gap of knowledge. I may not even agree with Yishai on everything, but you still have to engage with his reality, which is on the front lines, not yours which is some news reader without any lived experience!
Great idea by yishai. If you aren’t Jewish or willing to live as a non-voting “resident” after passing an arbitrary test of loyalty then you can be kicked out. Sounds like a brilliant solution. Even a “final solution “
This does not apply to Arab Israelis. This applies to Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza who insist on living in the tiny strip of land in the Middle East which is not Muslim
@@user-td4do3op2d yeah I know right?!Why would those particular Arabs insist on living in that part of the world - they should just leave if they knew what’s good for them. Why did Jews insist on living in the non Jewish state of Germany in 1941 right? Some man made thousands year old text never dictated that Germany belongs to the Jews, so why would they insist on living there? It didnt belong to them. They should’ve left long before
Holy fascistFreak, it's blood and soil all the way with this guy. I can appreciate the blunt honesty of right-wing Israelis but terrifying to listen to nonetheless
And the sheer audacity to be constantly crying about "djihadis" while your claim is based on the same kind of delusion, absolutely pathetic and disgusting.
I wonder if Whites in the US did the same - in giving all minorities including Jewish Americans second class 'residency' with no voting rights, and a loyalty test if we'd be in better shape in America?
Yes, henry ford spoke of jews saying « they represent a state within a state » they’re like a trojan horse , bo wonder they got kicked from every place
Those that guy have any good take beside being built upon his ridiculous religious view that Jews should not be back in Zion until the Mashiah comes down
@@eden5260 It's a fringe opinion to say the least. I've watched Yaakov do the rounds but rarely seen him challenged on his atrocious logic not to mention Israel being mentioned in the bible over 600 times. But it would be pure KINO to watch him debate Yishai.
3:04 He says "the Abrahamic region" as if Abraham was born on Israel 😂😂😂 We know how people from his home country look like (Iraq) 🤷🏿♂️ We also know who he found in the so called "Sumeria" before the Judea terms was added to the name.
@Dudemeister Why would Destiny not be good faith? As he just started researching the conflict a year ago, I don't see why he would enter it with a bias in either direction. Many people have heard both sides since last year and concluded that they support Israel. To me, it is the people repeating the accusation of genocide as if it were a proven fact who are bad faith. One has to ignore a great deal of inconvenient facts to believe that what is happening to Gazans now is anything like what happened to the Armenians of Anatolia, the Jews of Europe, or the Tutsis of Rwanda. It should be offensive to anyone who is a member of those groups to compare a war with a run-of-the-mill (or better) civilian to combatant death ratio to actual genocides.
I appreciate that Yishai Fleischer is a thoughtful and serious person. But he is very extreme even to supporters of Israel like me. I would love to see you talk to Haviv Rettig Gur (senior analyst at The Times of Israel) and Dan Senor (host of the “Call Me Back” podcast).
Yishai represents a tiny minority of Israelis. People can think that this is not the case. It's the same as the number of anti-zionist Israelis represented by Miko Peled.
This guy talking about Arab corruption and shake downs… don’t look into the Palestinian permit system buddy and what some awful things Israeli officials and the IDF do to people, especially women so they get granted the permits they need to survive.
I wish the host asked this guy if he wants to get rid of the brutal regimes in the area he the IDF is part of the same Israeli regime who rapes prisoners….🤦♀️
Jake is so uninformed, it’s embarrassing. 21:15 he doesn’t understand that the Jewish people have archaeologically proven history in that land. The bible just happens to be referencing actual land and people.
Yishai is right. That foolishness of the West to come and give advice with its moral superiority. The Middle East moves under different rules. You have to be stupid and arrogant not to see it. That land belongs ancestrally to the Jews and as if that were not enough, after so many wars that they have survived, they have earned the right to live there. Israel only has to lose one war against its enemies and it would no longer have been Jewish state. If the Palestinians want a future, stop screwing Israel and get to work. A Christian who love Israel ✝️✡️
Yeah… but ask them all where Jesus, the Son of God, The Messiah fits in all of this. Mostly be prepared to be shocked. This is actually a War of survival against evil, for Israel. Please respect that and Mr. Netanyahu.
Yeah… but ask them all where Jesus, the Son of God, The Messiah fits in all of this. Mostly be prepared to be shocked. This is actually a War of survival against evil, for Israel. Please respect that and Mr. Netanyahu.
Yeah… but ask them all where Jesus, the Son of God, The Messiah fits in all of this. Mostly be prepared to be shocked. This is actually a War of survival against evil, for Israel. Please respect that and Mr. Netanyahu.
@@QuestionsAskMeAnything I respect the right for everyone to believe in the religion they want, that does not mean that I think that others believe something that is wrong. Jesus is the son of God and the Messiah. As for Israel, I support it because it is a just cause and because I am convinced that even giving the Palestinians a state, they would continue to attack Israel seeking to kill Jews or expel them completely from there. There are 21 Arab nations and the Palestinian nation is an invention. They are Arabs and the fundamentalists want not only to conquer Israel but Europe and then the world to impose their totalitarian beliefs.
Yishai. First you are not just Jewish, you are Russian/Jewish. Embrasse both. Second. If you live in both in Israel and the USA, please stopped attacking the USA all the time. 🤣
he's not attacking USA, he's speaking reality he's not wrong that the rules in the west are different from the middle east, Israel adapted some western elements but that country is located in the middle east
You know what at least that guy is honest, he don't spend his day lying on TV like a snake he say it like it is... I disagree with him but I respect his honesty
I debate people on both sides of the issue. I just debated Miko Peled, who is Anti-Zionist: ruclips.net/video/gBh3pTmzMe8/видео.html
thank you Jake for your efforts. For people that are on the fence its important to hear both sides, although hearing Miko pushed me to the Israeli side since he gives absolutely ZERO agency for the actions of the Palestinians or khamas etc. Lets see if this guy gives some agency to the settlers or Zionists etc
A friend recommended reading Miko shortly after October 7. I feel like he is projecting his own unfounded feeling of guilt associated with the reality of state building.
Like Rawan Osman said, “in order to build a state, you need statesmen.” Israel has statesmen, Palestine does not. Otherwise they wouldn’t stand for the obsession with the Jewish state and direct focus to building a strong Palestinian state.
You royally suck at it good lord
I really don’t understand why Jake says Israel identifies as a Western country, why is this so hard for him to comprehend?! These are Western points that are irrelevant
@@barkerstreasure I can't speak for what proportion of Israelis think this way, but Netanyahu and every prime minister of Israel before him has presented Israel as a Western style democracy. You can read Netanyahu's recent speech to the U.S. congress, where he repeatedly calls Israel a democracy, says Israel is at the forefront of helping the U.S. defend Western civilization, and concludes by mentioning the U.S. and Israel's common civilization
You can’t really argue with a guy who believes in the legitimacy of Ethnostates and Apartheid. He’s a lost cause.
There is another group of people... that we have conflict with? WHAT? Leave the stolen land. Conflict over. Bye.
And then he literally said, there is no solution. Here is my solution? Let me steal some land. And keep it. Cause Abraham is my ancestor.
The Quran is against the 7th of October…
Moses killed a man of pharaohs people…
“He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 )
The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin…
“Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 )
Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin
A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians:
Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him
The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant
Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly
If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight
But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help?
No this conduct is effeminate
Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions
Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will..
Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree…
“ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 )
People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’
this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God…
What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes…
Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history.
Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians?
historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo…
The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission…
Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land
I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons..
Someone will say: but what about the children being killed?
I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv.
And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians
What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you?
What is this nonsense?
God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 )
so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power?
Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands
And is one soul cheaper than a million?
Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity?
Oh my people reap what you sow.
And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God,
and if they were defeated they say this is from America.
Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 )
Facts:
Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God
How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land?
This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it
And how do we know who lives in it?
By their houses, and the established community.
The land today belongs to Israel.
Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque
And does that justify transgression?
Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 )
Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God…
The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment
As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving…
The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God…
Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins
“whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 )
And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy…
But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel.
However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
How about leaving the Jewish state alone? That should end the conflict. Astonishing, right!
@@agniyabarsuk9756 Sure. The ever expanding, land stealing state wants to be left alone WHILE stealing land, imprisonating people and working for a greater Israel on other peoples land? Astonishing, right!
Moshe Dayan
This is over 60 years old about the foduning by a founder. "Before the Palestinians) very eyes we are possessing the land and the villages where they and their ancestors have lived We are the generation of colonizers and without the steel helmet and the gun barrel we cannot plant a tree and build a house."
Moshe Dayan
Astonishing, right?
@@agniyabarsuk9756 The Jewish state is the one that will not leave Palestinians alone.
6:29 the IDF is also targeting bakeries and super markets to use starvation as a weapon of war
The entire zi9naz1 jwsh project started with deceit. They had no intention of living in peace with the people of the lands ever. For education and info purposes only. Sourced online and books. Stating this because the comment gets deleted for hatevspeech. 1srael Zangwill, important political Zi0nst said in a talk in 1905, “(We) must be prepared either to drive out by the sw0rd the (Arab) Tribes in possession(of the land) as our forfathrs did or to grapple with the prblem of a large alien population, mostly Mhammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us.”
Around 1928, Shabtai Levi, a land purchasing agent for Bar0n R0thschild wrote in his memoirs, “He (the Baron) advised me to carry on in similar activities, but it is better, he said, not to transfer the Arabs to Syria and Transj0rdan, as these are part of the Land of 1srael, but to Mesopotamia (Iraq), He added that in these cases he would be ready to send the Arabs, at his expense, new agricultural machines, and agricultural advisers.”
Around 1930, Zi0nst Socialist (Mapai) leader, David Hac0hen wrote, “… I would not accept Arabs in my trade union, the Histadrut; to defend preaching to housewives that they not buy at Arab stores; to prevent Arab workers from getting jobs there… To pour kerosene on Arab tomatoes, to attack Jwsh housewives in the markets and smash the Arab eggs they had bought; to praise to the skies the Keren Kayemet that sent Hankin to Beirut to buy land from absentee effendi (landowners) and to throw the fellahin (peasant farmers) off the land - to buy dozens of dunams - from an Arab is permitted, but sell, God forbid, one Jwsh dunam to an Arab is prohibited.”
Menahem Ussishkin, chairman of the Jwsh National Fund, and member of the executive of the Jwsh Agency, said in a 1930 speech to journalists, “We must continually raise the demand that our land be returned to our possession … if there are other inhabitants there, they must be transferred to some other place. We must take over the land.
trucks allowed into gaza centre point but the humanitarian agencies has very low efficiency by getting food and aid from centre point to the gazans who need it.
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla ask yourself why this is. The roads are bombed or razed. The checkpoints manned by zi9naz1 jwsh 0ccupation. COGAT makes it impossible for the trucks and aid workers to pass. They wait hours as told by COGAT only to be told they have to go back. When aid does get through, it's bombed immediately after its offloaded. The zi9naz1 jwsh terr0rist forces target the police forces who help facilitate the movement of people to collect the aid . The aids trucks are not allowed to stop for a second before reaching the destination or they bombed. The zi9naz1 jws are just letting aid through for show because they have to. Their American weapons depot won't be able to send the weapons if the least minimum aid is not let through.
The Quran is against the 7th of October…
Moses killed a man of pharaohs people…
“He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 )
The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin…
“Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 )
Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin
A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians:
Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him
The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant
Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly
If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight
But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help?
No this conduct is effeminate
Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions
Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will..
Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree…
“ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 )
People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’
this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God…
What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes…
Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history.
Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians?
historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo…
The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission…
Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land
I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons..
Someone will say: but what about the children being killed?
I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv.
And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians
What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you?
What is this nonsense?
God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 )
so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power?
Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands
And is one soul cheaper than a million?
Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity?
Oh my people reap what you sow.
And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God,
and if they were defeated they say this is from America.
Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 )
Facts:
Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God
How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land?
This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it
And how do we know who lives in it?
By their houses, and the established community.
The land today belongs to Israel.
Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque
And does that justify transgression?
Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 )
Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God…
The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment
As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving…
The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God…
Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins
“whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 )
And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy…
But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel.
However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
This is so bias…. Jake the let this man tell all these lies but with miko you cut him off and was trying to change the subject…
in both interviews, I should have said more
@@jakenewfield Watching both, I think it may be a combo of
(1) the argument presented by Yishai is closer to home for those who have grown up Jewish and Zionist, and
(2) Jake probably felt more comfortable talking to Miko for whatever reason; being in person was probably part of that.
Could it reveal a latent bias? It could, but that will be Jake's process to figure out as he goes on in his life. In the Miko interview, Jake is clearly disturbed that people in a concentration camp aren't showing more sympathy to Israeli civilians, and Miko was laser focused on root cause & actions to stop the root cause, looking at things in the big picture as opposed to letting a detail drive the big theme.
Miko's point was the cause is occupation, and occupation creates a bunch of terrible details; don't let details turn into the narrative, as they are a consequence. We saw that strongly in the point when Jake asked, "If Gaza had a better government/life" and Miko refocused and said that a blockaded/isolated Gaza should not exist in the first place, a Gaza of refugees should not exist. I think that framing is a shock to anyone, and could be part of why Jake pushed back a lot. If you remove the emotions and bravado from how Miko speaks, he seems to be very correct in this.
Bringing us back to "bias", I think Miko's end comments about Jake were right - Jake isn't stupid at all, he is clearly trying to process all of these ideas in real time to figure out what truly makes sense to him. A good faith actor can't be convinced in a single debate, but let us hopefully not get Piers Morgan's "reset" button after every discussion. It will be interesting to see how he evolves.
@@jakenewfield i think its a disgrace for the family of your wife to form a family with a Zionist like you are one, what is the worst is after seeing your interview with Miko i know you aren`t stupid, so you know what is going on but are denying it. wake up!!!! after all your children will be arabs as well
The Quran is against the 7th of October…
Moses killed a man of pharaohs people…
“He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 )
The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin…
“Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 )
Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin
A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians:
Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him
The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant
Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly
If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight
But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help?
No this conduct is effeminate
Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions
Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will..
Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree…
“ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 )
People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’
this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God…
What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes…
Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history.
Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians?
historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo…
The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission…
Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land
I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons..
Someone will say: but what about the children being killed?
I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv.
And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians
What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you?
What is this nonsense?
God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 )
so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power?
Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands
And is one soul cheaper than a million?
Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity?
Oh my people reap what you sow.
And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God,
and if they were defeated they say this is from America.
Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 )
Facts:
Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God
How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land?
This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it
And how do we know who lives in it?
By their houses, and the established community.
The land today belongs to Israel.
Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque
And does that justify transgression?
Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 )
Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God…
The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment
As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving…
The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God…
Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins
“whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 )
And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy…
But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel.
However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
💯.
Summary :
Jake was tight from Miko cooking him
Wow the level of fascistic garbage in this interview is wild🤯. At least he is honest.
The Quran is against the 7th of October…
Moses killed a man of pharaohs people…
“He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 )
The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin…
“Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 )
Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin
A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians:
Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him
The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant
Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly
If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight
But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help?
No this conduct is effeminate
Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions
Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will..
Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree…
“ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 )
People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’
this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God…
What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes…
Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history.
Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians?
historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo…
The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission…
Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land
I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons..
Someone will say: but what about the children being killed?
I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv.
And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians
What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you?
What is this nonsense?
God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 )
so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power?
Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands
And is one soul cheaper than a million?
Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity?
Oh my people reap what you sow.
And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God,
and if they were defeated they say this is from America.
Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 )
Facts:
Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God
How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land?
This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it
And how do we know who lives in it?
By their houses, and the established community.
The land today belongs to Israel.
Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque
And does that justify transgression?
Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 )
Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God…
The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment
As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving…
The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God…
Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins
“whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 )
And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy…
But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel.
However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
7:21 these rockets were not sent out of the blue. Israel encroached on a sovereign state and killed Ismael in a guesthouse just to sabotage the negotiations.
How does one kill the person you're negotiating with and call yourself the most moral army in the world? Who are u kidding 🤣🤣🤣
Jake you’re not just dumb you’re actually malevolent behind a ‘nice’ facade. I hope you get to really understand that some day.
"...malevolent behind a 'nice' facade." Very apt description!
Yeah....took one look at this guy's face and thought to myself "Middle East is his homeland"...
This guys a modern day yatzi
Whenever you associate Jews and Nazis just remember that the Arabs in Palestine have had much more natural, close relationship with the Nazis. They planned on mass anhilation of Jews way before Israel was established and they never gave up on this agenda since then.
This guy is seriously saying Israel should own Gaza and the west bank? What a clown LMAO.
they already do
The Quran is against the 7th of October…
Moses killed a man of pharaohs people…
“He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 )
The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin…
“Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 )
Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin
A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians:
Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him
The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant
Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly
If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight
But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help?
No this conduct is effeminate
Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions
Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will..
Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree…
“ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 )
People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’
this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God…
What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes…
Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history.
Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians?
historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo…
The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission…
Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land
I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons..
Someone will say: but what about the children being killed?
I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv.
And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians
What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you?
What is this nonsense?
God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 )
so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power?
Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands
And is one soul cheaper than a million?
Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity?
Oh my people reap what you sow.
And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God,
and if they were defeated they say this is from America.
Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 )
Facts:
Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God
How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land?
This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it
And how do we know who lives in it?
By their houses, and the established community.
The land today belongs to Israel.
Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque
And does that justify transgression?
Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 )
Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God…
The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment
As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving…
The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God…
Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins
“whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 )
And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy…
But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel.
However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
This should be called delusions of a bigot
7:21 they're not ancient. They're modern European Jews. Ethiopian Jews are forced to recornvert before going into Israel but none of the Europeans have to do that. Even though the majority of those migrating to Israel are atheists. How does that work though? U don't believe in God but I believe he gave u land 😂😂😂 wow
Right? This Zionist hypocrisy is nuclear!
"Every jurist in the world knows that the Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with us... serious jurists have made minced meat out of that argument"
lol wut? 2 ICJ advisory opinions, 20 years apart, with different judges, stated that the settlements are illegal. The 2024 advisory opinion stated that all the settlers have to be evacuated.
OMG. Hasn't Jake learned *anything* about history?🙄
The difference between these two viewpoints is that Yishai lives in the reality of the Middle Eastern region. Unlike a few sadly diluted Western Jews, Yishai and his family's lives are on the line, and they have real skin in the game.
Funny, he sounds pretty North American to me
@@bendrasin Lots of Israeli's have American accents - some have Slavic ones - others neither. It reflects the diversity of Israel.
@@bendrasin
He was born in Israel and raised between Israel and the US. He has spent the vast majority of his life in Israel.
@@politicas3361it reflects that they’re not actually from the Middle East
yea real skin in wanting to steal land because a book told him its his precious boys land.
It’s embarrassing and disgusting that Jake Newfield doesn’t know about Kuwait and Saddam Hussein. Who tf is Jake and how is he this ignorant
I see around 7min-8min in
@@barkerstreasure you mean the country America conquered for you? Pay respect.
@@droptableaccount1820 correct. the U.S literally invaded Iraq after advise from Netenyahu to do so, just to find NO wmd. now they are doing same for iran.
It’s embarrassing watching this. I’m shocked Yishai stayed on.
@@michaelscott70 Yishai is insanely kind and polite
give them residency, no vote, doesn't sound like a democracy with rule of law applied equally to everyone
Why can't people ever just stand on their beliefs? Bro said Isreal is a Jewish state and that none jews will have less rights and thus be less equal, but he refuses to accept that's what he's saying and instead deflects with, oh equality is a western value and not a middle eastern value. Like bro just stand on it. Just say I'm comfortable with none jews having less rights to maintain the Jewish state while also incorporating none jews
What I think Jake is missing is the honesty of human history. Empathy and understanding don't lead to peace, nuclear bombs and eradication of the enemy do. Understanding the Japanese boy who grew up watching his homeland nuked may sound noble but at the end of day except virtue signaling it won't actually lead to peace. Allowing the Germans to retain the Reich instead of unconditional surrender AND occupation wouldn't lead to peace. Bleeding hearts aren't a policy and aren't relevant to conflict resolution in all of human history. I challenge you Jake to present me a single case in human history where empathy solved conflicts.
Facts
6:19 Jews also have their children in settlement concerts (intended to relocate Gaza).
There's even a song with a music video where Jewish children are singing "kill them all, the sons of Amalek" referring to Palestinians 🙆🏿♂️
Jake’s question are dumb. “Do you think people of lebanon like to get bombed?”Oversimplified based on lazy or dishonest premises. 😂 this guy is nasty. He is a david pakman student.
It’s called uti possidetis juris: The principle would dictate that Israel's borders are the same as the boundaries of the Mandate of Palestine in May 1948. This would support Israel's claims to the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip
Not going back to that. Look at the disastrous results. Never worked, never will.
4:32 terms like "ethnic state" are a racist in nature.
It's like saying all "American Indians" have the right to America the same way Jews do in Israel.
Imagine if every country had to do that 🤷🏿♂️
Most countries are ethno state ma guy
@@Femmeaesthetic like Palestine was, then stolen. And now it's destroying the European colonizers and rightfully turning back to Palestine. Over 2 million already ran out and aren't returning
The Quran is against the 7th of October…
Moses killed a man of pharaohs people…
“He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 )
The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin…
“Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 )
Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin
A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians:
Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him
The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant
Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly
If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight
But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help?
No this conduct is effeminate
Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions
Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will..
Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree…
“ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 )
People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’
this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God…
What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes…
Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history.
Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians?
historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo…
The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission…
Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land
I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons..
Someone will say: but what about the children being killed?
I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv.
And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians
What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you?
What is this nonsense?
God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 )
so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power?
Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands
And is one soul cheaper than a million?
Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity?
Oh my people reap what you sow.
And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God,
and if they were defeated they say this is from America.
Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 )
Facts:
Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God
How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land?
This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it
And how do we know who lives in it?
By their houses, and the established community.
The land today belongs to Israel.
Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque
And does that justify transgression?
Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 )
Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God…
The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment
As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving…
The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God…
Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins
“whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 )
And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy…
But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel.
However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
Why doesn't he mention the American lives and money necessary to carry out his plan?
Why don't you mention how much America profits from a strategic ally in the region? Did you just realize how the world works?
This old chestnut. You do realise that the US and Europe are the primary beneficiaries of Israeli intelligence and not the other way round.
Only the Jews in Israel can blend in with the Arab world, understand every dialect and cultural norm and do things no US or European intelligence agency can.
As for raw military aid - we know the US DOD is dying to know what secret advances are in the new Israeli jet that can outperform the Raptor.
The US and Israel are in a mutually symbiotic WIN-WIN relationship and long may it last.
America's support is earned by israel.
@gershommaes902 what? What? What have they ever done for us besides take our money and bring us into conflict?
@markpozsar5785 Boomer talking points. We have strategic allies in the region that do not buy our politicians and use our soldiers for their wars.
37:16 “I hope it escalates.” Yishai has betrayed the people of Israel with this unmasking statement. He is so sure Iran doesn’t have a nuclear bomb. I pray for him.
Thank you for having Yishai on your show Jake! I am looking forward to hearing the discussion.
Thanks, Yo!
The Quran is against the 7th of October…
Moses killed a man of pharaohs people…
“He said my Lord, I have killed of them a soul and I fear they will retaliate and kill me” ( 28:33 )
The people of pharaoh were criminals, killing children and shaming women, in spite of that killing a man from them in a random manner is not justified and considered to be a sin…
“Then Moses poked him and thus finished him and said this is the work of Satan indeed he is a manifest enemy and a deceiver” ( 28:15 )
Thus Moses knew and confessed his sin
A comparison between Moses and the Palestinians:
Moses killed a soul of the people that were killing their sons and shaming their women by mistake and confessed his sin asking God to forgive him
The Palestinians killed many souls of the people that left them alone to build their terror tunnels and to scheme and spread murderous propaganda without interfering in their education and killed them with cold blood and were not repentant
Being in a state of helplessness, doesn’t give you the right to kill randomly
If you had the upper hand and a JUST cause on your side, then you can fight
But the Palestinians cannot fight because they are too weak. What then, do you want to start a war and cry to the national community for help?
No this conduct is effeminate
Because when you start a war, do not bawl your eyes out, but endure and reap the fruits of your actions
Plus, the Palestinian do not have a right for the land because all land belongs to God and He alone distribute it to whomever He will..
Similar to what happened to Moses when he and those who were with him sat helpless against Pharaoh, but God did not give them the right to go on a killing spree…
“ then Moses said to his people, take refuge in God and wait indeed the land belongs to Him He ALONE bequeath it to whomever he wills, and the winners are those who fear him” ( 7:128 )
People trust all kind of false ideologies, and they say things like: ‘the right of land belongs to those who were there first’
this is totally false because the land is being bequeathed by a decree from the wise God…
What follows from adopting false premises is more crookedness so that now people in the Muslim world are inventing stories about how they are the real Sons of Israel and the Jews that inhabit Israel now are not really Israelites, but mere impostors, and so it goes…
Oh my people when are you going to wake up? See how are you inventing tall tales just because you have admitted and gave assent to a false principle, namely, that the right of land belongs to the indigenous but this is untrue because God will not make the property of people under the mercy of historical narrative. Every country can invent its own history.
Have you ever heard of a court case that was resolved by historians?
historians are incongruent within a fifty years timeframe, but going further back it’s a hullabaloo…
The right of ownership of a piece of land belong to the current settler he who has established his community, and was able to protect it. and this enablement by itself is a sign of his ownership because nobody can settle in a land except with God permission…
Someone will say: but they are the invaders and they have transgressed the land
I will say: this is your claim, and you can not substantiate it, except by bringing historical narrative, written and transmitted by fallible people whom i know nothing about, and even if I grant you this you have to understand that any transgression should be dealt with within its own proper timeframe and not after generations have elapsed from the point of its occurrence, because the people now inhabiting the land are not the same people who first came to it, and God say: an eye for an eye and he didn’t say an eye for the eye of your grandchildren or the eyes of your sons..
Someone will say: but what about the children being killed?
I will say that he who started The war is the Palestinians and they are the ones who still sending rockets to Tel Aviv.
And one will say: but Israel are far more superior to the military capabilities of the Palestinians
What a brilliant way of thinking! so what you‘re saying is if you fail militarily I must fail likewise to accommodate you?
What is this nonsense?
God says “prepare for them to the utmost of your capabilities in power” ( 8:60 )
so you can inspire fear in the bosom of the enemy, but what if the enemy is too dense to be afraid? does that mean I shouldn’t use my power?
Someone will say: but they killed tens of thousands
And is one soul cheaper than a million?
Does not God says in the Quran that he who kills a soul that was not guilty of killing another soul nor was it guilty with spreading corruption in the land is like one who killed all of humanity?
Oh my people reap what you sow.
And if they snatched a victory, they say this is from God,
and if they were defeated they say this is from America.
Say: all of it is from God what’s the matter with these people that they cannot grasp plain speech? ( 4:78 )
Facts:
Lands are not distributed, according to the indigenous population, because the land belongs to God and it changes hands between nations, according to the high estimation of God
How do we recognize the owners of a piece of land?
This is a simple matter the owner is he who lives in it
And how do we know who lives in it?
By their houses, and the established community.
The land today belongs to Israel.
Someone will say: but they have stopped Muslims from going to the mosque
And does that justify transgression?
Didn’t God say: “Do not let the hatred of a people who barred you from the Sacred Mosque provoke you to transgress” ( 5:2 )
Everything happens by the will of the Lord of the Worlds, and complaining and discontent are considered a type of disbelief and rejection of God…
The torment befalls people so that they may supplicate (humble themselves) to the Lord of the Worlds, not so that they may boast about their resistance to torment
As long as you do not believe that everything happens by the permission of God, you will remain lost, misguided, and disbelieving…
The believer in the Qur’an knows that good is from God and bad is from God, and everything is by the permission of God…
Any bad thing that befalls you is because of your sins
“whatever evil befalls you is from yourself”( 4:79 )
And whoever starts from this perspective does not cry and complain about the West’s conspiracy against him, nor does he expect mercy from the Arab nations. Rather, if a calamity befalls him, he supplicates with all his strength to the Lord of the Worlds and tries to remember with all his strength his sins and seek forgiveness from God and humble himself before Him, asking for His forgiveness and mercy…
But the Arabs have a different perspective. If something good befalls them, they say this is for us, and if something bad befalls them, they fly at America and Israel.
However, Their portent is with Allah, but they do not know
Me, and most of the Israelis I know, agree with Fleisher. You would not ask Churchill in 1942 what is the solution post war with Europe, there are still 3 years more of WWII to be done. The solutions in Germany and Japan started 3 YEARS after the end of the war in 1948 with the Marshall Plan and the 4D's.
You're making a disservice to your country stating so.
@@OverheadDoji The truth is a disservice?
@michaelpesin946 I agree with you
@@michaelpesin946Dude... Fortunately most of israeli don't agree with you, you are making a dissevice to your country by stating so because you're relegating Israel to a pariah state.
@@OverheadDoji The Israelis that don't agree with me live in the center of the most liberal city in Israel, Tel Aviv, and are so few that they can't get enough votes for representation in the Israeli senate.
Yishai Fleisher is totaly mopping the floor with Jake.
Not necessarily. Ask Yishai what he really thinks about the hostages…
The fact you think this way just shows how toxic your ideological possession is. Your brain is fried if you think this was a debate. This was an interview/discussion. Yishai is just so toxic and smug for no reason. He makes this entire interview so antagonistic for no reason.
And to be clear I support Israel and hate Hamas and think Palestinians are largely radical. This guy is just an extremist on the other side of the spectrum
I think Jake is just playing devils advocate
Yishai sounds like a surfer from California.
Insanity. Imagine these talking points were discussed during ww2
International law determines that when a state/country declares independence, the border lines at the time are what determine the border lines of the new state/country. This included the “West Bank” that Jordan occupied between the war of independence and the 1967 war when Israel liberated it.
@@AviBecher that is patently ridiculous. What if Texas declares independence right now?
@AviBecher you are just making things up. The pallys could just declare independence tomorrow by your logic.
@@droptableaccount1820 they make things up to fit to their agenda. this is what they are best at.
@@droptableaccount1820 There was no such thing a palestinian nation, the Arabs back then didn't identify Palestinian before 1960s, the whole palestinian identity among Arabs was created sowly on the base of destroying Israel
i know the law. uti possidetis juri international general law. (natasha hausdorff explained it very claerly)
The equality promised in the declaration of independence is for the inhabitants of the land who choose peace.
Yeah… and Hamas sure doesn’t.
This didn't work for Jake.
I watched the first 20 minutes, Jake is kinda slow...
Yeah though that might be a good thing 'cos a lot of people online are like that! Jake is like a quicker version of Lex but probably without the academic background!
He’s a total spanner, haven’t you seen him before? I think he’s deliberately acting stupid, it’s his niche.
Your questions are infantile in their complexity. They are all so level zero. Does a Lebanese citizen want to be bombed? Should we be like Sadaam Hussein? Does a 14 year old in an extremist school get expelled in this system? These do nothing to add to the conversation and base notions that are a roadblock to peace.
riiight...he should have simply expected the point of view that hebron belongs to juice, while entire fking world is saying it does not
The protector of HEBRON is literally a living legend...Am Yisrael Chai Yishai
Apartheid state
Ew
@@iamjopaul you spelled neo nutsie wrong.
The new "Sieg Heil". Next up you'll zio-wash the 14 words.
You sound like a brainwashed cult lunatic
Yishai has a very clear vision for peace in Israel. I think it’s reality.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If by that you mean he is a horrible man, then yes agreed
No he's just a racist. This is as Peaceful as Alabama Jim Craw laws
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@@IanSDaniels he should have a clear vision for Brooklyn
You should interview Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro.
I think he has interviewed religious anti zionists before
This war is religious and not territorial per se. Territory is embeded into the religion. Jews are fighting for the right to live on their ancestral land. Muslims are fighting for the world domination and spread of Islam everywhere. One is in the fight for survival, the other is for the world domination. For Jews being so close to their ideological arch enemies is definitely very challenging. I hope that Islam is going to reform itself and become more tolerant as we are seeing in many Arab countries. If Arabs can live with Jews and others in the region, the Jews will have no beef with them because it is not in their interest to conquer the lands.
The only religious war is in your head, hope you can find a peace agreement.
@@OverheadDojiignorance is not a bliss, especially if your life depends on it.
My boy you don't understand a thing about this conflict. This "religious" narrative is added on top of a conflict that have nothing religious at his core to make it seem unsolvable. There are religious extremists on both sides and sure more people suffer more they'll be inclined do adopt a religious justification for their actions. That said this is a conflict about land not god.
@@dmitryb9309 Agree you should not be ignorant if to find the solution you first have to identify the problem.
@@OverheadDoji I don't think you got my message - must not be bright.
Love Yishai. No apologies. So smart and reasonable. Never thought I would like someone categorized as a “settler,” but he makes such a great case for the world’s only Jewish state.
Well you’re free to think that. That is the mentality that gave us oct 7th
@@tobysmith2081The complete opposite, agreements and land given to the Palestinians in Gaza is literally what enabled the october 7th attack.
@@theisraelig5162are all Israeli illusional like you?
@@theisraelig5162 nope, Israel still controlled the borders, sea and sky of Gaza. They controlled the water and electricity. The people of Gaza had nothing but diy paragliders and old guns and they humiliated the IDF. The occupation is solely responsible for Oct 7th. Some settlement land being given back hardly matters in the logistics of a military blitz.
Without the occupation, Oct 7th wouldn’t have happened. Without a sovereign Gaza Oct 7th would still happen, no matter how much land the Israelis take
@@theisraelig5162 nope, Israel still controlled the borders, sea and sky of Gaza. They controlled the water and electricity. The people of Gaza had nothing but diy paragliders and old guns and they humiliated the IDF. The occupation is solely responsible for Oct 7th. Some settlement land being given back hardly matters in the logistics of a military blitz.
Without the occupation, Oct 7th wouldn’t have happened. Without a sovereign Gaza Oct 7th would still happen, no matter how much land the Israelis take
This guy black pills me on the conflict.
Why? Yishai is for the WIN-WIN
I can assure you that a lot of Israelis despise his kind of thinking, so you don't have to swallow the black pill just yet
@@politicas3361 More correct to say the JAIL-JAIL
Black pill means what kid
@@politicas3361 the comment meant it without judgements, except that they have been come to a "dark" realization about the reality of the situation.
So glad you got Yishai on!
Wonderful discussion.
The vision Yishai is offering is Israel as a state which is more similar to the UAE and Saudi Arabia than to the US or a European country.
In such states there are relatively few citizens who are very priviliged and rich, and many outside workers who get paid very little and have few rights.
The question which remains to be seen is if such a state is something most jews in Israel will want, will they want to keep sacrifcing their lives for such state, and is it even sustainable in the long term.
For me personally, as an Israeli jew, the answer is no. I'd rather live in a state with a much more democratic ethos. As long as I remain free enough to struggle for such a state (with freedom and equality at its core), I'll do it.
💯 Anyone who can’t comprehend this is a spoiled ignorant useful western idiot because they refuse to understand how Middle East is or Arab culture. They aren’t crying about Lebanon, Jordan, or Turkey, all who claim to be democracies lmfao
The difference is that Palestinians are not foreign workers from India.... They are part of our land and have the same rights we have to it.
There already is a State. The State of Israel. Those areas are, always have, and should have always remained part of Israel.
Due to the invasion from the so-called Palestinians (actually Arab descent and other) has created conflicts that should have never arised nor existed.
There already is a State. The State of Israel. Those areas are, always have, and should have always remained part of Israel.
Due to the invasion from the so-called Palestinians (actually Arab descent and other) has created conflicts that should have never arised nor existed.
There already is a State. The State of Israel. Those areas are, always have, and should have always remained part of Israel.
Due to the invasion from the so-called Palestinians (actually Arab descent and other) has created conflicts that should have never arised nor existed.
This Rabbi should thank the US taxpayers for giving a gift of usd 30 billion to Israel in 2024.
he will pocket that money and pretend he never received it.
you forgot US gives foreign aid to other countries
@@semprefidelis76 that's what the Hamas board do
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp better than tiny hats stealing 100s of billions of dollars from American tax payers
I think he's great. His position is the perfect argument for America totally cutting off support for Israel. He makes it clear that there are ZERO shared values between the two societies.
Jake was completely unprepared for this conversation, and I say this as someone who thinks Yishai Fleisher is completely deranged lol
he could have prepared forever and not been prepared to deal with this psycho unless he was prepared to be rude in response.
Where did you qualify in medicine from ?
@@politicas3361 He is a disgusting supremacist, pretty obvious.
Jake bring on Netanyahu next and have a good faith conversation about peace in the region. You’re doing great!
@@Dudemeister impossible. Dont give war criminals a platform.
@@koach7779 I know that’s the point
@@Dudemeister LOL
@@Dudemeister its kinda difficult to discern sarcasm from actual ignorance these days. Particularly in writing. My bad.
Thank you Jake for bringing Yishai to your listeners to hear a new vision of how Israel can be a part of making the Middle East flourish for ALL - Muslims Jews, Christians.
a speech in July, 1938, Ben-Gurion said, “In the proposal of transferring the Arab population from the area, if it is possible voluntarily and if not by coercion, it would be possible to expand the Jewish settlement…The basic difference with the Commission proposal is that the transfer will be on a much larger scale, from the Jewish to the Arab territory;. If it were possible to transfer Arabs from one village to another within the British Mandate - it is difficult to find any political or moral argument against the transfer of these Arabs from the proposed Jewish-ruled area…. And is there any need to explain the value in a continuous Jewish Yishuv…”.
Also in July, 1938, Yosef Bankover, founding member of the Kibbutz Hameuhad movement and member of the Haganah Regional Command, said, “…as for compulsory transfer, as a member of Kibbutz Ramat Hakovesh, I would be very pleased if it would be possible to be rid of the pleasant neighbourliness of the people of Miski, Tirah and Qalqilyah.”.
Another leader of the Kibbutz Hameuhad movement, Aharon Zisling said, “I do not contest our moral right to propose population transfer. There is no moral flaw in a proposal aimed at concentrating the development of national life. On the contrary: in a new world order it can and should be a noble human vision…”.
Then in August, 1938, Berl Katznelson, a labor leader, wrote, “The matter of population transfer has provoked a debate among us: Is it permitted or forbidden? My conscience is absolutely clear in this respect. A remote neighbour is better than a close enemy. They will not lose from being transferred and we most certainly will not lose from it…. But it never crossed my mind that transfer to outside the Land of Israel would mean merely to the vicinity of Nablus, I have always believed and still believe that they were destined to be transferred to Syria or Iraq.”.
29:41 peace process delayed! How about hostages?! Dude is so disconnected from the conflict and region.
23:09 conquered Canan and renamed it to their own names. So did the Arabs and so did Britain and now Israel is continuing the legacy.
Abraham went there to land grab, hence his descendants are still on the mission.
Ur own scriptures say there were people he found there and conquered.
One part of me thinks Fleisher is extreme and that Jake is right, but another part likes Yishai and makes me wonder if he's right. He has a sort of welcoming charm, although he's very passionate and intense, and that combination is unusual when it comes to this topic.
He is one of the few you'll see who's born here. More Israelis are born here of Israeli parents and Grandparents than the births in all other 1st world countries. Hope I said that right.
The man is genocidal and in the "the solution" he gave out was in a nutshell to enslave the Palestinians as second class residents not willing to call them citizens of the land they lived in for over a thousand years continuously. This is not about a religion nor ethnicity. It's about a genocidal in progress and misrepresentation of the facts that we can see on tape.
What I appreciate is that Yishai is upfront and says it how it is. You need to understand the Middle East and how it works. The West is constantly meddling with their point of view that is foreign to the region. The Islamists have learned how to play the westerners and use it to their advantage all the time. They speak out of the two sides of the mouth by being brazen and vicious in their Arabic addresses and playing victims for the West. That is sneaky and disingenuous and confuses the Western folks into becoming empathetic. The reality is how the guest is saying it. This is a brutal war for survival of Jewish people and non-muslim in the middle east. Jews and many others are in minority and they don't have a luxury to stretch this conflict forever. Muslims are many and time has no significance in their religion. Allah is eternal and the quest of Muslim domination could last forever.
Yes it's better when Racists say they're Racists and declare their intention to form a fascist state
I remember Al Jazeera in arabic, it's not the same as Al Jazeera in english
10:14 I like how he openly admits that the propaganda they use to get American taxpayer money is ridiculous.
Iran gets American taxpayers' money. Israel buys weapons from American companies and is an invaluable intelligence ally for the US. Get the facts.
Iran gets American taxpayers' money. Israel buys weapons from American companies and is an invaluable intelligence ally for the US. Get the facts. Now why was this reply deleted the first time? Because it says the truth?
Looks like the last guy Miko Peled was right
48:15 There are two ways to crack an egg. From the outside, for a failed state, and from the inside, for a viable new one. Yishai’s scrambled post-traumatic morals are not divinely inspired.
Only Legal Immigration and proper vetting of the people is the solution.
Only Legal Immigration and proper vetting of the people is the solution.
Only Legal Immigration and proper vetting of the people is the solution.
I really enjoyed this one a great guest and a host with personality
thanks!
All the people in the comments who don't like that Jake brought someone like Yishai Fleischer, don't worry, when Jake brings good people from the other side, he edits them and does what he can to try to make them not right.
So you don't have to be mad, Jake isn't really looking for the truth, he only listens to one side and keeps it, the truth doesn't interest him
I also didn't like when he edited the video with Doron and when he always tried to take pressure off his friend and put pressure on Doron
But I realized that this is probably the channel to pretend that you are listening to everyone when the truth is that you want to find a good solution for one side to help and listen to only one side and ignore the truth.
"good people from the other side " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
On the last question: there was a viral video of a palestinian man shouting on the top of his lungs, after losing one of his loved ones, cursing Hamas for bringing this war upon the palestinians
@@byggemann how many do you want to bet that person supported October 7th and only cursed Hamas for not defeating Israel
@@byggemann how many cursed the idf and ended up joining Hamas because of Israel massacring their children?
@@koach7779 It's rare for Israeli's cursing IDF and IDF are not massacring children, its not Israel's intention to kill children
Jake, I thought the way you do when I was in college, but I’m 50 now and granting all people equality in Israel would be a disaster because there are millions of Jihadists within Israel’s borders who would use their freedom to wipe out the Jews.
Zionazis
ahahaha do you live in Israel?
Jihad means "spirtual struggle." You're a jihadist. If the Jews stand between Arabs and their freedom, then it's appropriate to call their struggle for liberation "jihad," but so too, then, is the Jewish conquest to keep Arabs from self-determining, even if for the sake of a belief which dictates to them that Arabs, intrinsically, have it out for Jewish people. Jihad, in itself, has nothing to do with murdering anybody. You're just cynically interpreting a spiritual concept you make no effort to understand, or recognize the legitimacy of and painting Jews as victims in a struggle that Zionists very much have brought on themselves by coming to Palestine with the intention of establishing a Jewish ethno-nation state in an Arab region. Just spare the world the theatrics, and the moralizing, and the antics, and just be the imperialists that you are because it'd be much easier for all of us, including yourself, to stomach. Trust me.
If they’re already living in Israel there is nothing stopping them from being jihadist. I’m sure there are radicals in their population but this is obviously a tremendous minority of the Arabs in Israel.
@@A4rings110 do you live in Israel?
Can't stand this guy Jake's ignorance.
I am new to his channel and only watched 3 debates so far. Jake is great at both understanding the person as well as arguing sometimes as devils advocate and other times from what appears to be his values. He seems fair and balanced to me and reminds me of the quote from Maimonides
'Every one should consider themselves equally balanced between innocence and guilt'
We can't all be geniuses like you 🤷♂️
@@Jad55 One used to expect journalists to do research. Not any more, it seems.
Jake needs to read an overview of Jewish history and he can read strictly non religious one at that because he doesn’t know basic facts about it and is trying to argue
All you have to do is listen to this guy to understand the entire issue. If hamas didnt exist and there was no resistance, israel would take over gaza and the west bank. That's literally why the resistance exists, the Palestinians dont want the state of israel taking over their land and so they have to fight back. It really is that simple.
Do they want a two state solution or one state solution?
@jjthomas8171 they wanted to live in peace on their own land without being treated like second class citizens. This is the hunger games in real life where Israel is the capital and Palestinians are district 13. Israel has slaughtered over 40 thousand people and disabled who knows how many. All 2 million residents of Gaza had their lives destroyed. How do you recover from that? How do you go back to "normal" after everything you know and love has been destroyed? This is indefensible and unbelievable that there people who live in 2024 and have zero consideration for human life outside of themselves. Ignoring the suffering that's right in front of your eyes, then victimising them on top to further justify the aggression.
Jake, you're doing great. Please interview Adar Weinreb from Sulha - Israel, Palestinian and Beyond.
You are not a Middle Easterner Fleisher, you are a Russian Jew who emigrated to the US.
If Jews are not from the middle east where are they from? Middle earth?
According to who? Trust me bro?
Bs, a Russian immigrant to Greece can easily call himself Greek or European all he wants.
I might be an immigrant to Israel from Japan and call myself an Israeli that happens to be in ME , you know, geography wise.
ME is not a nationality.
@@NeverAgain316Yeah. It’s your ethnicity.
@@NeverAgain316But, Yishai’s ethnicity is both Russian/Jewish. One of his parent was Russian. Do you understand. From what he explained in one of his previous videos.
This was pretty pathetic on Jake’s part, he was steamrolled and completely acquiesced to all of this extremism.
Yishai's answer of giving residency to the Palestinians doesn't resolve the conflict. Why should Palestinians accept not being allowed to vote in the country in which they reside?
Because they will probably have better lives there then the Islamic countries.
if someone is so entitled, so above anyone else, so delusional, he will say such things
Israel doesn’t owe anything to these people who want their destruction. Residency perhaps mixed with a local Palestinian government may work. It’s going to take years of de radicalisation before anything moves forward.
Literally treating people less than second class citizens. Imagine if trump said America is a christian state and only christians should be allowed to vote.
Maybe because of 2 reasons. 1. There is no country or state called palestine. There is no borders or capital or people's 2. Arabs do vote in Israel. And Arabs in Israel at 85% call themselves Israeli. They know palestine is a lie invented in 1964
Listening to Mr. Fleisher is torture for any thinking mind.
This guy is hilarious 😂
Now Isreal is not western and it’s middle eastern. Tell that to the USA media then
Sometime is this sometime is that sometime is eternal sometime it doesnt exist.
Are you mentally ill?! ISRAEL IS IN THE MIDDLE EAST GENIUS! Western media doesn’t dictate what Israel is lmfao
@@kariemallam3618 You can perceive us as you like, we don't owe our Lives to westernism, we will do as fit to guarantee our security and stability.
Also nobody is claiming we aren't western, but if being an ethno state just like the west was historically and most muslim countries nowadays are makes you non western so be it.
Israel is located in the middle east what do you expect? USA gives foreign aid to other countries you got anything to say about that? Iranian people have western values so are you gonna say anything about that as well?
27:47
I wonder if Ishai knows that Kurdistan isn't a Nation State, it's a region that is part Turkish, part Iraq, part Syria and part Iran.
The interviewer seems contrarian without any real understanding. Very emotional response with a big gap of knowledge.
I may not even agree with Yishai on everything, but you still have to engage with his reality, which is on the front lines, not yours which is some news reader without any lived experience!
EXCELLENT!!!
Where's the intensity?
Great idea by yishai. If you aren’t Jewish or willing to live as a non-voting “resident” after passing an arbitrary test of loyalty then you can be kicked out. Sounds like a brilliant solution. Even a “final solution “
This does not apply to Arab Israelis. This applies to Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza who insist on living in the tiny strip of land in the Middle East which is not Muslim
@@user-td4do3op2d yeah I know right?!Why would those particular Arabs insist on living in that part of the world - they should just leave if they knew what’s good for them. Why did Jews insist on living in the non Jewish state of Germany in 1941 right? Some man made thousands year old text never dictated that Germany belongs to the Jews, so why would they insist on living there? It didnt belong to them. They should’ve left long before
@@user-td4do3op2dthey’ve lived there longer than the Israelis
@@user-td4do3op2d They insist to live yeah that's the problem for people like you
@@user-td4do3op2dArabs there exist long before jewish religion even game to fruition........
Fleischer is insane. How dissociated from reality can one get?
The dissociated one is you , carrying water for terrorists over Israel protection
The other way around
@@hdibenshushan6025 Condemn Hamas?
@@hdibenshushan6025 get your boots on and go fight
@@hdibenshushan6025 yeah keep supporting these new age neo nutsies.
Yishai for minister of state - when?
Good work Jake
Thank you!
I see him better in jail. But i get your point: after Smotrich he's a good candidate.
Please no we have enough insane ministers
‘We gonna stay in our land’ says the whitest guy with a Brooklyn accent talking about the Middle East and he’s talking about fitting the category haha
Holy fascistFreak, it's blood and soil all the way with this guy. I can appreciate the blunt honesty of right-wing Israelis but terrifying to listen to nonetheless
And the sheer audacity to be constantly crying about "djihadis" while your claim is based on the same kind of delusion, absolutely pathetic and disgusting.
@@Muluc-lx2dehow are jihadist basing their ideology on archeology?
Yishai is sometimes a little confused.
@@Muluc-lx2de Yishai is sometimes a little confused.
idk who this Jake Newfield is but he sound naive af
Let me get this right, Almighty Israel gets to determine what peoples of the world may be possessed of rights and freedoms? Is that about right?
No just Israelis. You're kind of crazy.
@@SarahBishop-e8b That is exactly what is being promoted by Fleisher.
Yes . This man is a just a disgusting human being . Should be put in jail for insiting ethnic cleansing
Legal and well vetted Immigration is what they need.
Legal and well vetted Immigration is what they need.
I wonder if Whites in the US did the same - in giving all minorities including Jewish Americans second class 'residency' with no voting rights, and a loyalty test if we'd be in better shape in America?
Yes, henry ford spoke of jews saying « they represent a state within a state » they’re like a trojan horse , bo wonder they got kicked from every place
Different times, different standards. ALL immigration anywhere around the World should be done LEGALLY.
Different times, different standards. ALL immigration anywhere around the World should be done LEGALLY.
Different times, different standards. ALL immigration anywhere around the World should be done LEGALLY.
Nothing good would come from a Yaakov Shapiro v this guy debate, but I would pay to see it
Those that guy have any good take beside being built upon his ridiculous religious view that Jews should not be back in Zion until the Mashiah comes down
@@eden5260 It's a fringe opinion to say the least. I've watched Yaakov do the rounds but rarely seen him challenged on his atrocious logic not to mention Israel being mentioned in the bible over 600 times.
But it would be pure KINO to watch him debate Yishai.
3:04 He says "the Abrahamic region" as if Abraham was born on Israel 😂😂😂
We know how people from his home country look like (Iraq) 🤷🏿♂️
We also know who he found in the so called "Sumeria" before the Judea terms was added to the name.
24:40
"Some [people] are more equal than others!"
Awasome Yishai love how clear you are
Josph Gbbls was also pretty straightforward. A quality they share between others
@@OverheadDojiNot always… trust.
He wants apartheid and Jewish supremacy as a solution. You invited someone’s who pro ethnic cleansing and want to talk to him about peace. Ridiculous
“Residents”
Yea this dude has not gotten it about many of his guests. He still thinks Destiny is “good faith”
If anything it’s good to see that many Israelis really have this attitude
@@corki1017 And one would be too many
@Dudemeister Why would Destiny not be good faith? As he just started researching the conflict a year ago, I don't see why he would enter it with a bias in either direction. Many people have heard both sides since last year and concluded that they support Israel. To me, it is the people repeating the accusation of genocide as if it were a proven fact who are bad faith. One has to ignore a great deal of inconvenient facts to believe that what is happening to Gazans now is anything like what happened to the Armenians of Anatolia, the Jews of Europe, or the Tutsis of Rwanda. It should be offensive to anyone who is a member of those groups to compare a war with a run-of-the-mill (or better) civilian to combatant death ratio to actual genocides.
I appreciate that Yishai Fleischer is a thoughtful and serious person. But he is very extreme even to supporters of Israel like me. I would love to see you talk to Haviv Rettig Gur (senior analyst at The Times of Israel) and Dan Senor (host of the “Call Me Back” podcast).
Yishai represents a tiny minority of Israelis. People can think that this is not the case.
It's the same as the number of anti-zionist Israelis represented by Miko Peled.
Yishai represents the right wing in Israel, which is the majority of the population.
@@Beplayinmon234 I'm from Israel, Yishai does not represent the right in Israel.
Most right winger does not want settlements in Gaza for example.
This guy talking about Arab corruption and shake downs… don’t look into the Palestinian permit system buddy and what some awful things Israeli officials and the IDF do to people, especially women so they get granted the permits they need to survive.
I love this guy! He’s saying the quiet part out loud in English!
Basically no equality for all!
He’s Evil. Period
Great job, Yidhai! Bravo!❤❤❤
I wish the host asked this guy if he wants to get rid of the brutal regimes in the area he the IDF is part of the same Israeli regime who rapes prisoners….🤦♀️
Jake is so uninformed, it’s embarrassing. 21:15 he doesn’t understand that the Jewish people have archaeologically proven history in that land. The bible just happens to be referencing actual land and people.
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
No such thing
Palestine is already free. It's called Jordan.
I'm tired of seeing this ad. They keep saying "FREE," but with inflation it is already up to $2.95, and they make you pay shipping and handling.
@@Genariifreedom costs $1.05 ... ;-)
I don’t understand why Jake calls the things he does “debates”. He’s more like seven year old child asking the adults on his podcast questions. 🚌
One minute you Recognized the league of Nations. While acuseing Jake of Shoehorning Western Values, while Blatantly Violating all International laws.
Yishai is right. That foolishness of the West to come and give advice with its moral superiority. The Middle East moves under different rules. You have to be stupid and arrogant not to see it. That land belongs ancestrally to the Jews and as if that were not enough, after so many wars that they have survived, they have earned the right to live there. Israel only has to lose one war against its enemies and it would no longer have been Jewish state. If the Palestinians want a future, stop screwing Israel and get to work. A Christian who love Israel ✝️✡️
Yeah… but ask them all where Jesus, the Son of God, The Messiah fits in all of this. Mostly be prepared to be shocked.
This is actually a War of survival against evil, for Israel. Please respect that and Mr. Netanyahu.
Yeah… but ask them all where Jesus, the Son of God, The Messiah fits in all of this. Mostly be prepared to be shocked.
This is actually a War of survival against evil, for Israel. Please respect that and Mr. Netanyahu.
Yeah… but ask them all where Jesus, the Son of God, The Messiah fits in all of this. Mostly be prepared to be shocked.
This is actually a War of survival against evil, for Israel. Please respect that and Mr. Netanyahu.
@@QuestionsAskMeAnything I respect the right for everyone to believe in the religion they want, that does not mean that I think that others believe something that is wrong. Jesus is the son of God and the Messiah. As for Israel, I support it because it is a just cause and because I am convinced that even giving the Palestinians a state, they would continue to attack Israel seeking to kill Jews or expel them completely from there. There are 21 Arab nations and the Palestinian nation is an invention. They are Arabs and the fundamentalists want not only to conquer Israel but Europe and then the world to impose their totalitarian beliefs.
Christians who "love" Israel are the most misguided fools on earth.
Yishai. First you are not just Jewish, you are Russian/Jewish. Embrasse both. Second. If you live in both in Israel and the USA, please stopped attacking the USA all the time. 🤣
he's not attacking USA, he's speaking reality he's not wrong that the rules in the west are different from the middle east, Israel adapted some western elements but that country is located in the middle east
@@Femmeaesthetic Which rules would those be?
You know what at least that guy is honest, he don't spend his day lying on TV like a snake he say it like it is...
I disagree with him but I respect his honesty
When being honest about your criminal actions became a quality to praise for?
u have a point.
Yeah… Yishai is honest, but definitely not always right.
Why Yishai why? Why waste your energy?😢