Why Most Female Betta Sorority Aquariums Fail and How YOU Can Be Successful!
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2021
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In this video we discuss best practices when trying to keep female bettas together in a female betta sorority.
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A year ago, I started a 50-gal 4’ tank, heavily planted with 6 caves. I had 10 glow light tetras, 10 apistos, 4 albino cories, and 4 Siamese algae eaters before I added 32 female betta recently. I have not lost even 1 betta. There is almost no aggression I could observe. I really like this tank.
That sounds cool!
I heard siamese algae eaters like to suck the slim cost off other fish. Be careful
60 fish?!?
I think that's too many fish
@@fishchess1678 it’s overcrowded on purpose so the bettas don’t have enough “personal space” to get territorial over, same theory used in cichlid tanks
I have a Sorority of 13 female Bettas. I've had success adding only juveniles over time. They learn their place in the hierarchy quickly. New adults usually have a hard time. ❤
How big is your tank with 13 female Bettas?
@@Kardinaal29 40 gallon
I started an 11 betta sorority in a 40 gallon breeder. I took your advice and I really think that is why I succeeded. They are all sisters and have been together since birth and I chose siblings that looked different. Got some koi, black, white, red, silver, and nemo variations. I may have also blown my budget on plants... oopsies!
Haha too funny. Sounds like a cool tank!
I just got a 29 gallon tank to try and do this I’m glad I saw this because I only bought 5 fish. I’m scared they won’t get along but I’m gonna go for 14-15 like you said. Thanks for your channel it’s so helpful!
I have a 55 gallon with 3 Cory’s, 3 neons, 3 tetras, and 9 female bettas. I’m working on buying more of everything to stock well. Thank you! This video was SOOO informative
2 years ago when I first started watching you and betta videos, it wasn't long until I ran across Lisa, Kesia, and Taylor and I saw my first sororities!!
I remember being mesmerized at the thought that more than one of these beautiful fish could be kept together in an aquarium!!
All I had at the time was my 15 gallon tall!! Definitely not the right type of tank for a sorority, but I was determined to make it work!!
You gave me ideas on tank setup. The one thing I knew for sure was that it needed to be heavily planted to break up line of sight!
I created a tall piece of drift wood that was like a tree and I planted java fern wendelov all over it!
I also had hornwort and MD fish tanks always had dwarf Water lettuce so I added that as well!
The tank actually worked even though I made probably the biggest mistake by buying individual female bettas from Petco. I still had much more to learn but I thought I knew enough to try it!! It did work for over a year. There was enough plants and stuff for them to hide but I didn't know at the time that adding another one could mess up the balance. I was gifted a beautiful Koi Plaket female and I made the mistake of putting her in the tank! It turned into a war zone as she went into everybody's territory on a mission 🤣😭😱
I did have a backup plan, I started setting up individual aquariums for the ones that needed to live by themselves! This turned out to be a symptom of developing multi tank addiction/syndrome 🤣🌿🤣🐟🤣
If I was ever to do another one, it would have to be in a 29gl or bigger!! It would have to be heavily planted, especially plants up top!! and pretty well established!! This time around I would buy bigger group of females who have grown up together from a trusted source like any one of our amazing betta breeders here!!
That's the beauty of RUclips.... you might start off on the wrong foot and making mistakes. Now those mistakes may be avoided by having more videos like this!!!
What a fantastic video!! Great information on what we need to keep in mind!! The video filming was beautiful featuring some absolutely gorgeous sororities!!
Thanks for sharing and I hope you all have a Happy New Year my friends! 🙏🌿🐟🌿💚
It’s funny how just one fish can mess things up sometimes!
I get my bettas now from breeders at USA betta squad and I buy them as siblings and do the mystery box it works out better as they’re already used to each other
I second that. Perfect timing. About to move our Beta and Molly to a larger tank and have been thinking about a community Beta tank.
I am going to drop a couple of notes from my personal experience, and tell why it is that I no longer advocate for doing this. This big beautiful tank is NOT without problems.
1. At 4:53 the fish to the south has major stress stripes, stress stirpes are not a good thing. It means that that fish is living a very unhappy existence. Stress stripes on your girls is a great indicator that things are bad for that fish. (note most koi and some light color bettas don't show stripes and may be stressed without you knowing.)
2. 7:00 note the bigger girls at the top smaller at the bottom. The top of the tank is the ONLY place these air-breathing fish can get enough oxygen to live. If you note that the smaller girls are all along the bottom and they get way less oxygen than the bigger girls near the top. They must actually struggle in fear of getting air without being attacked by the others.
3. My other huge issue with the sorority is, swim bladder, slim bladder, swim bladder.. Betta fish will eat until they die. They never fill full and the big girls at the top will nab most of the food unless you overfeed. Overfeeding increases the chance of swim bladder issues. I had to treat swim bladder more than 20 times and lost 4 of my girls due to just this alone. (treating swim bladder is not easy) Episome salt bathes, feeding peas, keeping the girls who is sick in a breeder box in the tank for days while they struggle to be able to surface.
4. Betta females deserve the same love and attention as the more beautiful males. They deserve to live long happy lives without being tortured. This form of fish keeping is torture for some of the bottom girls. I had 9 die in my first year. These fish can live to be 5 years old when kept properly.
The point here is, I used to think this was the most beautiful tank in the world. I had to do this. I had success for more than a year but not all was well. The girls didn't fight much but all the smaller ones at the bottom eventually died off. The stress stripes were sad for me to see. Then the queen in my tank died and that day was BAD. These girls were fighting to the literal death for her spot. I broke the sorority up at this point and rehomed the remaining girls to people who promised to allow them to live out their lives in a stress-free tank. I spoke with the owner at my LFS and she took my biggest girl for herself, she said she has been selling fish for more than 20 years and never seen a female betta that big. (the girls up top get huge) I am sharing this because I have done this and I know the things to watch for and this big beautiful tank is not so beautiful for me to watch. I don't have the heart for this style of fish keeping.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share these details. Not only does it give people some idea of what to look for if they do go ahead with trying it, but hopefully it will also make people pause and reconsider trying it. I understand sometimes people can "make it work," but most of the time, the stories seem to lead to "for a while." While I appreciate Jason making the video (at least people will have the right info about what's needed) I think stories like yours are also needed for counterbalance.
@@pjp9383 , Thank you for taking the time to read my novel! I still keep betta's.. Just not in a sorority. I still have a female in my 29 and a male in my 20 long. These are amazing fish and I do still adore them.
@@feralon9570 I love mine too! Recently down to 4, from my previous 5. The one I lost was in a divided 10g with another that I picked up from a family on Kijiji. They were being given away bc the 2 boys in the family had lost interest in their fish when 2 kittens came into the picture. They were in little half gallon tanks carpeted with uneaten food. I don't know how they survived, but I've had them for a couple of years now, so I'm glad I got them. Have 2 others in a divided tank, and one more in a 30g community tank too. All males - had tried getting females from my LFS a while ago, but several in a row didn't do well, so I stopped. Will try again some day, but from a different source.
@@feralon9570 Hi, may I ask what other fish if any you keep with your Bettas and in what order you added the fish. I have a 58 litre tank that I haven’t set up yet, i believe that is 15 gallons in the US. I’d love a Betta but don’t want to cause it any undue stress- thank you
I had many Betta sororites in the past. Sisters, daughters, mothers, grandmothers, all living (and sometimes fighting) together. Very rewarding! Tank size, about 120 liters (30 gallons). I generally kept about 20-25 females. The untold story is that 99.99% there will be no hard fighting, so you can put a 30 minutes video with everything looking cool. But that 0.1% vicious fighting can happen and one or another femal will be hurt.
Thanks for the vid! I have a successful 29 gallon with 6 female bettas right now! (Including 5 neon tetras, 3 ottos, 3 albino corys, 5 kuhli loaches)
What worked for me:
- Getting a 29 gallon made it easier to maintain & gave my bettas so much room!
- If you already have a few bettas in a tank and want to add more then buy a pair or more of siblings
I started out with two sisters in a 5 gal. The bigger one became a bully. After realizing I needed to get a bigger tank + more bettas to lower the aggression I upgraded to a 29 gal.
I adopted a very huge older betta (Big Bertha) afterwards that was incredibly aggressive to them/terrotorial. Big Bertha was alone in her tank at the pet store so it might be why she was aggressive (plus being 3 times larger). After taking Big B out and putting her in the old 5 gal, i later added two more new siblings in the 29 gal. A week later I later added three koi betta siblings at the same time. The first day they seemed to be establishing their territory (they chased my older bettas). The 2nd day they were getting along so well! Since then they live peacefully (even when feeding they don't fight over food or get aggressive)
If you already have a tank with a few bettas I'd highly recommend adding 2-3 siblings.
Your sorrority tank is amazing! But isn't it a little overcrowded? 🤔 I'm thinking of the 1-2inch per gallon rule. (Sorry total newbie here)
The tank featured here was not mine (it was put together by a betta breeder). To maximize success they often keep 1-2 female bettas per gallon.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics hey thanks for the reply! That's really good to know!
Thanks for this video. Perfect timing on its release. I've had a 20 gal sorority tank going for just over a month and it was doing a really good job with all 10 females getting along fine. Then they started dropping 1 by 1 & the shrimp would eat them. I couldn't figure it out. Then I found the white puffy mouth on 1 and did some research. Apparently a few were getting columnaris. Once I removed them the rest seemed to do OK. Mightve been stress/immune issues on those few. Worried about the tank itself but determined to keep going with the sorority idea. This video helped with a few tips I can try going forward. Thanks 😀
Did you put all 10 girls in at same time? I'm thinking of doing this in my newly cycled 29 gallon..I do have two tiny cherry barbs in there first And only two fish so far only becauymy daughter pawned them on me..but I couldn't decide what I wanted to stock this tank with ..I love Bettas I have 2males in a 10gal divided tank and they are doing great..but what he said about stocking all at once kind of scares me with bio load crashing..idk can you tell me what you did? Thanks
@@staceyknight9322 I put about 5 in at first. Then later another group of about 5. Then I rescued two others one by one. Strangely they were the easiest to be accepted into the group which I thought would go the other way around. Lisa from KGTropicals recommends getting all baby females from the same family. Sisters as babies tend to do really well. If I ever attempted another sorority that's what I'd try
how many bettas would u recommend for a 20 gallon? i was thinking 5-6 what would u say?
@@jamilihelo3691 maybe 10
I came here after watching Joey's podcast. It feels pleasant to listen and watch your videos. I'm glad to be here. Born and raised in Chicago but living in Florida for 20+ years. If you need anything from Florida, i'll be happy to send your way.
Thank you!
Beautiful video and so insightful! Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I'd like to try this someday.
Nice comparison between betta sorority and cichlid.Couldn't agree more. I also think that lots of fails happen because people would either to have or add too few fish at a time...Sometimes due to budget or avaibility...Sadly this is not a setup that can be done on short notice or on budget...you go big right out the gate or go home.
On a side note..and this is purely my personnal opinion...
Betta are territorial fish, not being able to do so in that setup, I think that could put them to stress and I wouldn't be suprise to learn that, in those condition, the fish could have a shorten lifespan or more prone to sickness.
I had one years ago in a 60 gallon tank, they were all rescued from Walmart and other places that would give them to me for free or discounted when it looked like they were about to die or neglected. People always go for the fancy looking males.
Wow, the bettas in this video are gorgeous! So much beautiful coloration
When you mention that the fish tend to show more aggression towards those with a similar appearance - how do fish know what they look like lol?
Lol
I have ladies that look alike, with zero issue.. though i get them when their juveniles and they will sleep beside eachother. Very sweet to see ❤️
you just blew my mind. never thought of that. siblings maybe?
@@ashleymariebernard1249 you have a video 😊. I would like to see that 🥹
I had a 65 gallon sorority that lasted for about 7 months. There are 4 total left. Might try again after seeing this video! Thanks Jason!
A have a 15gallon [15x15x15] tank that originally had one female betta and 1 minnow. Recently I decided to get 3 more female betta to see if I could create a sorority. I got three similarly colored female betta that were just a bit smaller than my original betta. It seems to me the three new fish are very happy and curious and tend to come check out my first betta to sort of oooo and awww her because she is bigger than them. I believe my original betta is a bit stressed out as I've sort of given her three kids. Here's hoping she'll eventually learn to love them !
That is a stunning collection of female bettas there, just beautiful
I have a 29 gallon with lots of big plants, lots of wood with caves, apisto caves, 3 small floating betta logs and one longer. I have 14 females, and one triple red cichlid. All the bettas are from the same store and some are smaller and some are bigger. I don’t have any problems. They have a lot of hiding spaces. I do have a hospital tank set up incase disease or aggression occurs though.
An awesome topic on my birthday?! Thanks! If you guys want a betta sorority just go with wild females, they aren't behaviorally changed like domestic bettas, are are usually healthier too. A lot of people in the wild betta do this with very high success.
Happy birthday!
I am a new fish keeper, and I am absolutely torn between angel fish and a betta sorority. I just have a 55 gallon tank, still cycling, thank you for your videos!
Angels will prefer a taller tank, I vote betta sorority!
What did you decide on in your tank?
I wouldn't start off with either of those two types of you're new to the hobby!!
@@Spacey7 start with whatever you want to start with theres no right or wrong as long as someone has the means and the confidence to properly care for any fish they should start with the fish that interests them
I attempted multiple sorority’s in 2021, and they didn’t work out, some due to my lack of knowledge, just often not healthy fish, I would give it another shot next year maybe or may stick with guppies and other nano.
PS Jason sometimes your voice makes me sleepy, so zen😂
Part of what makes bettas aggressive is beung alone in a body of water. Breed and raise the fry in a group and then those fry are more likely to be tolerant of being in a group. Any fish not just bettas that has spent time alone with claim to an entire tank will show agression to others
Jason, I liked this video. Would you please do some videos about other Betta species not B. splendens? I'm interested in trying a betta alternative, but can't find much information about them. Thanks!
I'm glad you put this video out. I see lots of bad information online about sororities that gives newer fishkeepers a false sense of security.
Personally I don't get the appeal. There are so many cool, colorful species that actually like being in groups, I don't get why anyone would try forcing a group of aggressive solitary fish to live together. It seems borderline unethical to me. I'm glad you're proving information on how to do this safely.
Because Betta people tend to forget their are other fish besides bettas.
I’ve seen so many people try it with 3-4 bettas and have it fail. Stinks for them and the fish.
I agree with this. I have no desire to have to work so hard to make things work, or to put myself or the fish through the stress in the process. It might be ok for a real expert, who works all day every day with their fish, to try it. But I don't think it's wise for a general hobbyist.
I have a female Betta that's bigger than the three i just added to the 15 gallon heavily planted tank. I have 8 platies 3 mollies and some danios. My original female betta is not aggressive against the other fish but showed a little aggression towards the new bettas that's why i added 3 at once to hopefully mitigate aggression for sure she will get exhausted if she will chase those 3 around so hopefully they can co exist peacefully.
In general, I just wanted to say that you both are my favorite fish keeping duo! Love your videos!
Thank you! Appreciate you being here!
Great video! Sororities are such a polarizing subject… you always hear people say they won’t work but never any thoughtful reasons as to why. I’m gonna link to this video every time I see the great betta sorority debate on the internet 😂
Thank -you for the video! What a beautiful tank.
I have a 45 gallon with 6 female bettas. They chase each other every once in a while,but for the most part they ignore each other. Been together for a month and it's been great! I'm tempted to add more girls in the future.
This footage is soooo beautiful.
ive had my betta sorority set up for about a week now. the girls had some fights the first day but since then theyve mellowed out and no signs of damage to the fish or fins. one thing ive noticed is one is gone? its been about half a day now and i seen her in the morning swimming around and now she is completely gone, looked all over the tank. checked around the tank incase she jumped out, under decor. its making me think i never had her in the first place but i have pictures of them all together. not too sure what to think or do yet
I was given a 20 gallon high and some people recommended a betta Sorority...but I know better. However I DO plan to get a single female betta and add some appropriate buddies (following your previous videos). I have 2 additional community's tanks in case the buddies don't work
That will be cool!
The bigger the better for sororities!! Lots of anubius lots floating too.. so easy to keep a sorority
I have a 55g I had 30 bettas. Now 29. One got really sick really fast. They are very active. It seems like the sets that resemble each other chase each other. If that makes sense. I just wish they were smaller. The place I bought them from say they were 3-6 months old
ive had a female sorority in the past and was not successful. i think i had too little fish in my 29 gallon considering i only had about 8 bettas in there. kept bringing back the aggressive ones to the fish store and eventually i just got so tired of the stress this tank made me. so many beautiful bettas, i loved having them! but now i have one male betta and im learning so much that bettas really like to be alone! if i were to have a female betta again, id put her alone
Since 2016 I’ve had five successful female betta sororities! ❤ all of which consisted of five or six female bettas that I’ve raised since fry when I got them as babies at the pet store! These girls grew up together in my care ❤ I miss them all! 😢 and now I have a 20 gallon tall with four girls! There’s some aggression from one girl but not always! And they mostly get along well! Just have the occasional sister spat lol. But I keep a close watch on them and play with them often. I’m their mommy after all❤ they’ve had tank mates as well! Most recently my snail 🐌 died 😢 his name was flotsam I’m sad 😞 but he’s in a better place now and eventually I’ll get them another snail 🐌 they loved him ❤ my girls are so happy and beautiful 😍 my blue half moon is named Azure my red half moon is named Rouge my Galaxy 🌌 Koi Rainbow 🌈 mascot half moon 🌙 is named Iris and my white red tipped fins half moon dumbo ear is named Blanca! They’re silly girls they love to interact and play they’re very social and sweet and cute 🥰 my friends here love watching them play! And I’m always upstairs watching them and playing with them ❤ they let me hold them too I put my hand in the water 💦 and they swim into it! It’s the sweetest thing ever what a bond I have with my baby girls ❤ they trust me and they love me and I love them so much! I would recommend a sorority to any experienced keeper! It’s always been a rewarding experience to me and have raised such wonderful beautiful girls! When I’m not spending time downstairs with my half moon butterfly 🦋 red and lavender male betta named Periwinkle and his little tank mate snail 🐌 Jetsam you’ll find me up there playing with my little girls!❤
I have a 20 gallon tank with 3 bettas right now. I know it’s very understocked. There were more but several of them died from dropsy. Two remained, and I got a “koi style” female from petsmart and I made sure she was healthy before I put her in with the others. She ended up dominating them and the two survivors are currently recovering from her constant nipping and she’s in a breeder net.
I just recently got an additional 3 bettas to put in the tank and they’re currently quarantining to make sure they’re not sickly. I might get one or two more probably cap it out at 8 or 9. The tank has a lot of plants mostly Java ferns and Amazon swords. Lots of big rocks and some large tank ornaments they can swim inside. I’m hoping that just by adding these 3 new fish that the aggression is lower. I might keep the koi female locked in the breeder net for longer while the 2 survivors continue to recover
Have three right now in a five gallon sorority. No aggression yet. Will have to add two more and maybe another decoration.
I have one crown tail and a dumbo ear Betta and they have been ok for a month now and still doing great
The bettas tend to have very cichlid like personality. When I had an all black female betta in with Cory cats she had no problem with them. Yet when I added red and blue guppies she became extremely aggressive.
My most aggressive betta is SO nice to the cories, lol.
She seems legitimately entertained by them, and doesn’t seem to mind at all when they bump into her. Not at all what I expected when I added the cories.
I started a betta sorrority in a 30l (have just moved them to a 42 gal), and i think the greatest contributor was the fact that i jammed my top layer with floaters. Hornworth works really well. Gives the bettas a jungle gym to explore. Also terminalia catappa leaf water.
Sorry bro, how many betta did you keep in the 30L tank?
@@mateocadavidc9945 7... impulse buy before i even started learning. They did soldiered it out for like... 3 months
My wife has a 55 gallon with six in it right now. So far, all is going well. We also have some dither fish in the tank with them
How has it been going as of recent ?
@@jamesmontez691 good I lost one fish from illness but the others are settled in and leave each other alone
I am thinking of starting a tank and would love to know how you set up the sorority tank. One with more fish then less.
Bettas are beautiful fish. I have only kept males. They each had their own 5 gallon or slightly bigger tank. Buddy had two snail friends. Monet lives alone as he attacked his snail friend which is why Buddy had two. Buddy is in fishy heaven now. Monet likes living alone. I would like a community tank that is 55 or larger when Monet goes The snails are doing well too.
i have three females in a 10g with my guppies (i been slowly rehoming my guppies to other tanks or to other people) and they mostly get along, i have a big veil tail and she runs the tanks and doesnt allow for any aggression, my little crown tail likes to pick on my koi sometimes and the veil tail always breaks it up and swims in the middle of them then they go back to getting along, i also do think the guppies have helped with aggression and being territorial since there are too many fish to chase away
Perfect timing for this as I've been thinking about trying a betta sorority for a bit now.
Beautiful tank. I wish if I can have one.
great video, and it has inspired me to try a community/sorority tank. my question is how do ensure that the bettas are getting the right amount of food, as when i put betta food in the others eat most of it.
Sometimes feeding small floating pellets can help.
Always loved your videos,they’ve been a huge help along the way.
I have a moderately planted 29 gallon with some rummynose tetras and bristlenose plecos.
Picking up 11 female bettas tomorrow from a breeder that is selling a group he has that have been raised together.
I have a male plakat in that tank, but can move him to a 10 gallon if there are issues.
My male bettas like swimming into my hand and lying down.
Is there any issue with doing this with them?
Really enjoy the interaction.
Hand swimming no. :-) Keep en eye on the female bettas though. It can be a tough go in a 29 gallon.
for me it's a question of ...is it really worth it? I don't see the benefit of the possibility of inviting trouble. When the "experiment" fails, it fails in a sad and nasty way.
Thank you. Beautiful.
Happy New Year. 🥂🍾🎊💥🎉
Happy New Year!
In my sorority of 5 Bettas, three are really peaceful and don't get attacked or attack anyone, but I also have two that occasionally nip or flare or chase each other around, but it's calming down and they mostly leave each other alone now. I have a spare tank in case I need to remove an aggressive fish, but how do I know if they're just being a little grumpy or if they're being problematically aggressive and if one or both need to be removed?
Chasing is normal. But if they are tail biting or nipping at each other remove the aggressor.
I haven't had a Bettany since I was in high school. I saw one at my LFS and I'm strongly resisting the urge to go back and buy him. If I do get him, I'm going to look around for some females, too.
I went back for the male and there are two females I was swooning over, too. Need more tanks!
I'm surprised that the anubias can just continue to live and thrive in its pot. It's a really beautiful tank even just with Anewbius
I have a 29 gal with 3 female bettas, two koi and one dumbo. 4 danios, 5 neon tetras, 2 guppies, and a bristle nose pleco. I just recently got them ( about a week ago ) and so far they are doing great. My tank has plenty of hiding spaces along with real plants. They get brine shrimp along w tropical flakes. If y’all could think about how I can make this tank better would be great!
I would add at least a couple more neons, they like to be in bigger groups so 5 is a little on the small side, I recommend getting maybe 3-5 more
2 more danios and guppies. 3 more neons
hi how did it go? how are your bettas?
What are your thoughts about adding dither fish (tetra) with a 29 gallon with 11 females , plenty of hornwort and Amazon swords and of Rocks and caves
I think smaller (neon size) tetras might work.
Beautiful tank
I currently have a small sorority starting kind of by accident. I can't stand walking past the sick fish in pet stores here in the American south.
My current set up is a 10 gallon, moderately planted, plenty of stuff to break their line of sight thought. I really didn't plan on getting this many when I was given my first male Betta. Right now all three of my females are completely different too, one koi, one crown tail?, And one mustard I can't really identify yet. There were signs of aggression between the first two before I added in the plants, but since I planted it, and adjusted the flow of the tank I don't even really see many signs of stand offs. So far I only have 3 females and one male who happens to be in a seperate 5 gallon.
I'm looking to update to at least a 30 gallon wide tank and then add more females as well as a couple schools of community fish.
Nice!
I have 55 gallon sorority right now. I have some videos on my channel.
Hi I’m 14 and I’ve had so many bettas I’ve always had 1 tank to 1 beta….. so I’ve had up to 7 tanks I always make sure that there all 3.5 gallons or more❤ how many female bettas could go in a 20 gallon tank with it not being overcrowded? And should you add other fish to? Thanks❤
I have a regular 20 gallon thank that I want to do a sorority in (figure I get females from petco or petsmart that aren’t selling). What plants would be good for that to break line of sight??
Floating wisteria or water sprite?
I need advice. I was gifted a female Beta for Christmas. I’ve had her in a 2.5 gallon tank for 3 months and in my research I have learned she needs friends and more space. The max size tank I can get right now (space is limited) is a 10 gallon. What’s the best type of set up for her as far as mates and plants? Thank you!
You could try mystery snails? We have a betta buddies video that may be helpful? 😀
I have a 29 gallon with some Cory’s and neon tetras. If I do a sorority does the other fish being there make it so I have to have less bettas?
Yes, since they already contribute to the bioload of the tank.
Dose anyone know what kind of that is? The one with big leaves, I want it!
They had a lot of sword plants in that tank
I have 2 females in a community tank. 29 gallons planted tank. So far no issues yet. They came from the same place and same size. One blue and one red. If I see something I don't like I'll remove them. I have other tanks.
I have a 10g tub that I’m using to grow plants outdoors and I’m wondering if I can keep bettas in there
As long as the water is at least 75ish and not getting too much over 85 they should be ok (and no major temp fluctuations).
I totally want a sorority one day
So many different colors!
Question: could this stocking for distraction method be applied to different species with the bettas? For example, could I have 5 female betta with 10 harlequins, 8 cories and 9 female guppies in a 32 gallon? I currently have 1 Betta, the guppies which are juveniles, and they behave like a sorority with the betta, and one platy. I will be adding the cories in the next 4 weeks. Then the harlequins.
I might be possible, but you can never be 100% sure.
Jason. Completely off topic but related to over stocking. I'm currently involved in a discussion in a Facebook concerning over stocking blood parrots. A keeper has around 25 blood parrots in a 60 gallon tank. Some people are advocating that this is alright and the fish actually appreciate it. Do you have any thoughts?
Over stocking them is fine, but 25 in a 60 gallon probably isn’t going to work long term. Those fish get way too big to have that many in such a small tank.
Could you possibly house a Sorority in a Discus tank? Assuming the tank is 200+ Gallons. Also, would the subspecies of Berta affect this? Namely Imbellis?
Ya, species will matter. We had Mahachai and we were able to keep males and females together without any issues. Interesting idea combining discus and bettas. I’m not sure how that would work with the temps?
What are those wide leaf plants?
Yes, I believe they were sword plants.
so many beautful bettas
I have 3 female bettas in my 55 gallon community and they show no aggression towards eachother or any other fish.
Just realized I may have messed up I got one female and male I’m planning on removing the male it’s too aggressive to her and other fish adding another female and haven’t taken her out the bag yet and she’s already aggressive to the other female idk what I should do
Definitely keep them separate.
Hello I have 60gallon cube stems plant pretty densely planted how do Betta do with stem plants
They don’t seem to mind them.
What kind of plants are those broad leaf?
Mostly swords
Just got my sorority tank running, 12 females 3 mollies and a giant pleco so far, no casualties. Yet my most beautiful Betta HMPK female got to be removed because she was too aggressive... Enough observation is all you need.
I have 14 females in a 29 gallon right now but I want to add 5 more. Do you think 19 females would be ok or is that too much? If too much what’s the maximum for a 29 gallon? Thanks
Adding more might be pushing it a little in that size tank?
I have started a betta sorority of 11 betta in a 29 gallon. I am quaranting 3 additional ones currently. Should I remove the existing 11 and add them all together into the tank at a later date?
It may help reduce the potential aggression towards the three new ones?
Thank you
I have a 7 gallon tank. My coi female betta is thriving she loves it. Could I possibly get another coi female as a tank mate
They would most likely fight.
Can you explain why something like a 20 gal following that 1per 2gal rule wouldn't be as successful as, say the 55gal at 1per 2gal rule? It feels like it would be the same stocking ratio.
20 gallon doesn’t get you to the number of fish that keeps them all unfocused on any one fish. Good question.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics ahh so the space doesn't allow for more than 10-12, which isn't enough in quantity. I was thinking it had to do with space to fish ratio. Thank you!
How many female crown tail could I put on a 7 gallon? 2 live plants and some Decorations.
I would only add one.
I had a well planted 29 gal with 9 females
How many would you recommend for a 37 gallon tank? Ty
To be safe - 1. I don’t attempt sororities in less than a 40 breeder.
I have successfully set up a betta sorority with 4 females. Although it took a bit of patience and some constant observation. At first, there was 1 that was a bit territorial and aggressive. So I removed her for a couple hours and placed her right next to the tank so that she could still see her sisters. Kinda like time out, lol. The other 3 were completely docile, I also noticed that my koi female is the most calm. When I put the naughty female back in, her attitude completely changed and she stopped being territorial. They have all been together for a couple of months now and I’m considering adding another one or two and upgrading my tank. Betta fish are so interesting and unique. The females are just as cool as the males (:
So good
Just thinking about getting back into fish again after MANY years away and I’m thinking this is JUST what I was looking for!
….ooops, just watched it all the way to the ending. 😬
I like the idea of having lots of choices in colors but I don’t want to keep so many. ☹️
I also want to only keep one tank and not turn into a zoo so I’m stuck with the question of what do I do with the Bettas that need to be removed because of being bullied or being a bully… When I was a kid I had too many guppies and tanks and got burnt out and sick of the hobby. 😞
Usually they have to be given away to people who will take them (maybe a pet store)?
Hi! I just ordered 1 beautiful Giant betta female & I’m wondering if I can order 3 normal sized sorority bettas to go along with my giant betta?… 10 gallon tank
Usually it doesn’t work too well in a 10 gallon.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics ok
I personally don't care for Betta fish that much but I use to keep 6 females together years ago and never and any issues .
Betta fish get some pretty misguided rules attached to them due to the inexperience of the owners that care for them for instance I have a Betta Sorority/ community tank, in which I keep my five betta females, of multiple sizes, with a 12 fish School of Cardinal Tetras, in my 20 gallon standard, and everyone gets along and they do just fine it's because if you're going to attempt this and do it successfully you have to have the experience to know that while betta fish are aggressive and territorial and you may get the tail swishing or chasing, every now and then as long as they have distractional tankmates that break up too much interaction between them a better sorority tank can be just fine, and you can call me Ace the advocate of the betta case, lol
So i got 6 bettas thinking it would be fine with 20 neon tetras, im kinda wrong, the bettas will chase eachother on occasion. I was thinking of getting more bettas to distribute the aggression, would that be the right call/ how many bettas should i be adding? (Ps the tank is lightly planted with a lot of guppy grass around and large rocks that make caves)
I would only do a betta sorority in a 55 gallon or more and stock it how I outlined here.
Is it important that the overstocking be all Bettas, or can it include other fish like neon tetras?
For the sorority it should be bettas. Good question.
not watched the video yet but some people say that if the bettas were raised together from egghood then they will likely be fine together even males however if they are separated for a short while they will be attacked and bullied once they come back. idk if this is true tho
Ya, the trick is they can’t be moved to another tank though. They often forget they were siblings when that happens.
I have a 10 gallon with only two female bettas and a couple of ember tetras. They are peaceful co-existing with no sign of aggression. Tbh idk what exactly i did right to make this work. But i would wanna pull this off again in future. Can you give me some tips for what exactly went right??
Hard to say. Sometimes if you have two docile fish they leave each other alone.
@@PrimeTimeAquatics yeah maybe i just got lucky 😅
I'll be more careful next time tho
do you think it would work with 3?
@@DemonCittie Oh no it doesn't work with 3 most of the time. I wasn't aware and just got lucky for having docile fish so it worked. But I am not gonna push my luck further and gonna be careful next time.