When i think to him and Myers i think that meme of the girl and boy "Babe, it's 2pm 😄, time to bring me back your friend that i turned into a weapon ans is now dying" "Yes President 😔"
Reed goes beyond just that. Hes tore within himself in regard to his loyalty to NUSA as a political entity / his cause that he had sworn to fight for and his friends who stands opposed at this point to the NUSA. At the end he chose the cause he took up oath with.
I don't rightly know why, but the way he said "You got three seconds!" Made me laugh unusually hard for some reason. He sounded like a father warning his child.
If you side with Reed you’ll see he really does try to save everyone and seems to care about them. Even your character. He’s loyal to his people. He kind of does act like a father to a certain extent. But, unfortunately he’s more loyal to his country and as we’ve seen, he’ll do anything they tell him to do and that includes betraying his people.
I honestly like Reed a lot more because at least he follows through with his promise of curing you. Albeit with a twist of no cyberware and it being two years later than expected. I still save Goro every playthrough tho. In the end both were fighting for what they thought was right.
@@phantom.wreath i think the twist of no cyberwere. And two years later come from nusa. Theres theory in Reddit both devil and nusa ending v was sabotaged Simply because both nusa and arasaka knew how dangerous v is to be let roam free. Thats why v didnt get cured by arasaka despite they probably could and nusa need to let heat cool down and ensure v didnt do something funny due to songbird Regardless i feel bad about takemura he simply have Lucy past but work his way till became saburo own bodyguard in a corpo full of backstabbing he did work hard
@@phantom.wreath I think Reed's promise was a half truth where he would vouch for you and the FIA surgeons would cure you on but also purposefully neuter V's ability to use cyberware on the president's orders thus removing a possible threat the board and making V dependent on the FIA for work and support after losing everything. Whether or not Reed was in on the sabotage is hard to tell cause he genuinely believes in the system and following orders but also isn't a complete sociopath who would do something like that fully intending to back stab you after you helped him clean up his mess.
@@Trussme96He is worse than a sociopath. He is a patriot. He blackmailed Songbird into joining the FIA and then just casually accepted her being forced to endanger humanity with Blackwall and getting possesed by rouge AIs all for a power hungry dictator
Over the course of the game, we get attached to Goro, and he to us. He's loyal to Saburo not only because of his personal debt, but also because he believes in Saburo's vision. Even if we don't share his views, we can get where he's coming from. Reed is as much of a stranger to us at the end of PL as he is at the beginning. He's barely even a person anymore, just a puppet of Myers who doesn't care about anything or anyone. Notice how the first thing he does here is try lying to V about helping Songbird, and he only drops the lie when he's called out on it. Reed only grows remorseful after 2 years, but by that point it's too late to change anything, and he himself won't change anything about his life, either.
I like to think that reed let you kill him to get So Mi to space and out of Myers hands. He probably didn’t want to take her back to the NUSA because he knew they would just keep on using her. Not only that, but he was able to finally die and move on from all the shit that he’s gone through
he does shoot and kill you in every scenario where he has the upper hand. That is the only occasion where you get the drop on him. Even his last words betray that he was too late - too late to shoot, too late to get so mi out
Who watched Bladerunner with Harrison Ford will agree that Reed after got shot in chest get pose of Rutger, you remember that line "All those will be lost in time like tears in the Rain. Time to die" and fortunely this scene was during rain.
Went for the headshot as soon as I heard "one". I went "nope, the only way I survive this is if I get the jump on him". I thought he'd put up more of a fight, seeing as how some folk in Night City can shake off a single revolver headshot.
I never got that dialogue. I was salty to discover she betrayed me and literally reverted my save to the big choice to side with Reed and throw her to Myers for payback. Being a petty gamer is funny at times.
@@BenMorganxD it was quite anticlimactic considering the wild shit I went through with the NUSA moments before I thought the choom would at least put up a fight
me personally , he had to die once he wanted to be petty on the phone and say "is that what you told jackie welles at kompeki plaza ?" when you tell him you're not turning yourself in
I agree, with these lines of dialogue and trying not to kill Reed really makes the ending of this DLC really emotional. I was playing as Nomad Male V, and choose the same lines you did, and it was so much more emotional since I opened up to Reed earlier in the DLC... "I'm sorry, man..." "T-too damn... late." "Space is pure freedom, So Mi..."
After all he suffered, all the friends he had to sacrifice, his years of service to a country that abandoned him and left him bitter and alone, death came "Too damn late". Hope you found peace in the afterlife choom.....
Gotta hand it to CDPR when they portrayed Reed as an uncompromising agent they weren’t kidding. I really thought there was a third ending or a “Don’t Fear the Reaper” like end.
Wondered why you always get the revolver to shoot Reed and thought it was some kind of western standoff thing, but i think it's a reference to what Reed said to V when they met. About how you sometimes have to put a choom at the end of the barrel of a Malorian. And that it isn't personal. Shooting reed at the end just isn't personal
@@net343 considering the Overture is a Malorian gun they 100% intentionally chose it as a callback to that very line, if they wanted generic they would have just stuck with the liberty
I get that they wanted to make it a difficult decision, but if I was in V’s place here I would have just shot his leg and took the gun so both of them could live.
“So, V.” “Yeah Missy?” “I am curious. After she told you the truth. You still helped her, even though you knew it was your best chance to take the cure. Why is that?” “She… she needed me. Out of everyone in Night city, hell maybe the whole shitty world. She was the only one who knew what it was like to be on borrowed time in your own body.” V sighs. “But, I wasn’t alone. I had you, Vik, hell I have Panam, Judy, and River. I have my chooms, my family. She didn’t have anyone. Not a single god damn person had her back. Wasn’t sure if I was going to have her back either after I realized she’d been spinning yarns since I met her. But, when I saw her. Really saw just how scared and alone she was. I just, I just had to Missy.” “I promised, yknow.”
Didn’t know there was a count …I talked to him a little then gave him 1 to the head and 5 to the body. Then just yelled an Omniman quote “Why did you make me do this???” at my TV
Amen to that, she was just a dumb kid before they turned her into a walking nuke no one deserves that, plus Reed killing the people you steal the looks from kinda cemented my choice, shows the kinda people he is and works for
Honestly, this mission made me go back an redo everything. I mean the game alluded to Song being a walking talking WMD, but when you actually see it in the and take part in it, I was like, this bitch has got to die. No one should have this power.
I mean the NUS isn't gonna kill her, they will use that power for political means, the moon? That's the way to go, since the people doing the operation remove the power from her, they harvest the blackwall energy from her body essentially turning her into a regular person, that's why you get her kit after the ending. Who harvests the power? We have no idea, still there's a ton of wmds in this world.
@@kitchenersown in the moon awaits Mister Blue Eye, whom is aligned with "the things beyond" and in the whole Peralez side gig. So not exactly a good option either
@@tinatpasselepoivre I'm aware of that, but the truth is, V can't change the world. Even if V doesn't take the job, someone else will. And I'd rather have an apocalyptic world where V and songbird have the slightest chance of survival than an apocalyptic world without them.
@@kitchenersown giving her up to be used as a weapon considering the damage being done to her seems pretty cold since she'll now be a prisoner after helping to shoot down the president. You think they'll give a shit about her well being after that. No, they'll use her up until she dies from the damage. Mr. Blue Eyes would probably do the same. He's just an AI avatar anyway. It's better V just kills her so no one gets what they want because none of them have good intentions. Sometimes the only winning move is to make sure everyone loses.
Wow the first time I did this I usually just shot him in the head. I never knew he had a whole animation and mine for being shot in the chest. Damn it. They got me again. BO2 didn’t the same crap with Mason XD.
Should have just been a cutscene. It wouldnt really take away from the feeling that you did it or whatever because you already pressed the button labeled “draw weapon”
@@Tsumefan2 yup, which is why its the best ending. She wont be on myers hands nor the blue eyed mans. She also wont have to worry about how shes a ticking time bomb. She'll finally have peace and She'll also die knowing that someone cared for her, that being v. Yes its bittersweet but in comparison to the other endings? The king of cups is better by a mile. This is my opinion tho so dont be mad😘
honestly? helping So mi get to the moon is by far one of the worst endings you arnt saving her, sure we saved her from death but shes traded hands from Myers to Mr blue eyes She betrays you, plays you for a goddamn fool. worst of all? if she doesnt get her way and decide to help reed at the neural matrix, she destroys everyone in her path and goes down into cynosure to essentially let ais through to this world. shes a walking talking nuke, its best to side with Reed and then kill her. Reed comes to an understanding at the end and plans to leave the NUSA, Songbird is put to rest. and most importantly people stop poking at the sleeping dragon that is the blackwall.
Uhh what are you talking about? Helping her get to the moon is by far the best ending! That's the ONLY option that actually saves her and lets her LIVE HER life. Handing her over to Myers (Langley) is likely eternal imprisonment/slavery in some cyberspace fashion - Reed even explains that the neural matrix couldn't help her because the blackwall had destroyed too much of her (But that she still lives... And will return to "duty" - "a fate worse than death" as So Mi calls it). Besides - who turned her into a walking talking Nuke? Myers. Reed confirmed that. And letting her save her life untangles her from the Blackwall protocols (And Myers who continues to entangle her further into the blackwall). - Are you a Corpo??
This still somehow feels like the wrong ending I know that reed is a loyal dog but so mi lied her ass off and tried to make us keep our promise to helping her and her plan was to leave us out to dry and die so i “betrayed” her because in the words of V she dicked us down already
@@bartoszboboryko4684 I didnt. I didnt hate Reed, but didnt care much for him either. Despite me knowing, well into this, that Song was lying, and that she planned the plane crash. Once i learned why Song did all this, my path was clear.
Bro the Nusa turned Songbird into a cyborg slave. There is no world where a moral person should give her to them. I say this ending is best morally and then second best is the one where you help her die in the Cynosure core. That's it. I won't do any other. Myers is a c**t.
I uh maybe shot him in the head in this scene, i was thinking "life or death" and ofc i tested to see if hed shoot me which i was right, so next spawn 1 to his dome and he fell back like dead weight, didnt know you could centre mass him and itd be different.
Reed's the type to bomb an orphanage on Myer's order without question and then afterwards goes :"i'm so sad"
It's why he gave V a countdown. He wanted to be stopped.
Yea thats why he's an amazingly written character
When i think to him and Myers i think that meme of the girl and boy
"Babe, it's 2pm 😄, time to bring me back your friend that i turned into a weapon ans is now dying"
"Yes President 😔"
Reed goes beyond just that. Hes tore within himself in regard to his loyalty to NUSA as a political entity / his cause that he had sworn to fight for and his friends who stands opposed at this point to the NUSA. At the end he chose the cause he took up oath with.
yup @@garwynrosser8907
"came to terms with my personal failure way back"
Uhuh....who you trying to convince? Me or You?
They shoulda made this a response dialogue for V lmao
Man female V’s actress did one hell of a job with the emotions in her performance!
I don't rightly know why, but the way he said "You got three seconds!" Made me laugh unusually hard for some reason.
He sounded like a father warning his child.
If you side with Reed you’ll see he really does try to save everyone and seems to care about them. Even your character. He’s loyal to his people. He kind of does act like a father to a certain extent. But, unfortunately he’s more loyal to his country and as we’ve seen, he’ll do anything they tell him to do and that includes betraying his people.
@@TheRandomMuffinManI honestly wish he got it better him and so mi Alex
In the end Reed is Goro but seems more stable and less rat
I honestly like Reed a lot more because at least he follows through with his promise of curing you. Albeit with a twist of no cyberware and it being two years later than expected.
I still save Goro every playthrough tho. In the end both were fighting for what they thought was right.
@@phantom.wreath i think the twist of no cyberwere. And two years later come from nusa. Theres theory in Reddit both devil and nusa ending v was sabotaged
Simply because both nusa and arasaka knew how dangerous v is to be let roam free.
Thats why v didnt get cured by arasaka despite they probably could and nusa need to let heat cool down and ensure v didnt do something funny due to songbird
Regardless i feel bad about takemura he simply have Lucy past but work his way till became saburo own bodyguard in a corpo full of backstabbing he did work hard
@@phantom.wreath I think Reed's promise was a half truth where he would vouch for you and the FIA surgeons would cure you on but also purposefully neuter V's ability to use cyberware on the president's orders thus removing a possible threat the board and making V dependent on the FIA for work and support after losing everything. Whether or not Reed was in on the sabotage is hard to tell cause he genuinely believes in the system and following orders but also isn't a complete sociopath who would do something like that fully intending to back stab you after you helped him clean up his mess.
@@Trussme96He is worse than a sociopath. He is a patriot. He blackmailed Songbird into joining the FIA and then just casually accepted her being forced to endanger humanity with Blackwall and getting possesed by rouge AIs all for a power hungry dictator
Over the course of the game, we get attached to Goro, and he to us. He's loyal to Saburo not only because of his personal debt, but also because he believes in Saburo's vision. Even if we don't share his views, we can get where he's coming from. Reed is as much of a stranger to us at the end of PL as he is at the beginning. He's barely even a person anymore, just a puppet of Myers who doesn't care about anything or anyone. Notice how the first thing he does here is try lying to V about helping Songbird, and he only drops the lie when he's called out on it. Reed only grows remorseful after 2 years, but by that point it's too late to change anything, and he himself won't change anything about his life, either.
I like to think that reed let you kill him to get So Mi to space and out of Myers hands. He probably didn’t want to take her back to the NUSA because he knew they would just keep on using her. Not only that, but he was able to finally die and move on from all the shit that he’s gone through
he does shoot and kill you in every scenario where he has the upper hand. That is the only occasion where you get the drop on him. Even his last words betray that he was too late - too late to shoot, too late to get so mi out
Who watched Bladerunner with Harrison Ford will agree that Reed after got shot in chest get pose of Rutger, you remember that line "All those will be lost in time like tears in the Rain. Time to die" and fortunely this scene was during rain.
I cant be the only one who instinctively head shotted Reed, right? And missed out on additional dialogue? 💀
He drops in a very satisfying manner if you headshot him
Went straight for the head, 0 regrets
Went for the headshot as soon as I heard "one". I went "nope, the only way I survive this is if I get the jump on him". I thought he'd put up more of a fight, seeing as how some folk in Night City can shake off a single revolver headshot.
I never got that dialogue. I was salty to discover she betrayed me and literally reverted my save to the big choice to side with Reed and throw her to Myers for payback. Being a petty gamer is funny at times.
@@BenMorganxD it was quite anticlimactic considering the wild shit I went through with the NUSA moments before
I thought the choom would at least put up a fight
me personally , he had to die once he wanted to be petty on the phone and say "is that what you told jackie welles at kompeki plaza ?" when you tell him you're not turning yourself in
Fuckin' right?!
Tell me to grow up!
This motherfucker!😂
I agree, with these lines of dialogue and trying not to kill Reed really makes the ending of this DLC really emotional. I was playing as Nomad Male V, and choose the same lines you did, and it was so much more emotional since I opened up to Reed earlier in the DLC...
"I'm sorry, man..."
"T-too damn... late."
"Space is pure freedom, So Mi..."
After all he suffered, all the friends he had to sacrifice, his years of service to a country that abandoned him and left him bitter and alone, death came "Too damn late". Hope you found peace in the afterlife choom.....
I am very glad that it is possible to remain friends with Alex. And drink to Reed with her.
It really helps.
I got this ending. Tried to shoot him in the leg, gun was pointing at his nuts, got shot in the gut.
Gotta hand it to CDPR when they portrayed Reed as an uncompromising agent they weren’t kidding. I really thought there was a third ending or a “Don’t Fear the Reaper” like end.
Wondered why you always get the revolver to shoot Reed and thought it was some kind of western standoff thing, but i think it's a reference to what Reed said to V when they met. About how you sometimes have to put a choom at the end of the barrel of a Malorian. And that it isn't personal. Shooting reed at the end just isn't personal
They chose it as a generic weapon for the dlc, the liberty was used for the main story
@@net343 considering the Overture is a Malorian gun they 100% intentionally chose it as a callback to that very line, if they wanted generic they would have just stuck with the liberty
also I think it is a way of preventing you from using a non-lethal weapon
That and also, it is the pistol on the main cover art
A shame shooting the gun out of hand and then his legs to spare him isn't an option.
They should patch it so that Reed gets hit but recovers real quick to one shot you unless you hit him in the chest or body.
I get that they wanted to make it a difficult decision, but if I was in V’s place here I would have just shot his leg and took the gun so both of them could live.
Reed would definitely just suicide rush you down anyways, dude is not gonna back down from a leg shot
Your camera motions are on point 👌
“So, V.”
“Yeah Missy?”
“I am curious. After she told you the truth. You still helped her, even though you knew it was your best chance to take the cure. Why is that?”
“She… she needed me. Out of everyone in Night city, hell maybe the whole shitty world. She was the only one who knew what it was like to be on borrowed time in your own body.”
V sighs.
“But, I wasn’t alone. I had you, Vik, hell I have Panam, Judy, and River. I have my chooms, my family. She didn’t have anyone. Not a single god damn person had her back. Wasn’t sure if I was going to have her back either after I realized she’d been spinning yarns since I met her. But, when I saw her. Really saw just how scared and alone she was. I just, I just had to Missy.”
“I promised, yknow.”
Didn’t know there was a count …I talked to him a little then gave him 1 to the head and 5 to the body. Then just yelled an Omniman quote “Why did you make me do this???” at my TV
If you actually got invested in the scene, I can't imagine how anyone's first instinct would be to shoot Reed in the face 😂😂.
I will play phantom liberty 10 times or even more, and i will always kill reed
Handing So Mi to the NUSA and myers? Not on my watch
Amen to that, she was just a dumb kid before they turned her into a walking nuke no one deserves that, plus Reed killing the people you steal the looks from kinda cemented my choice, shows the kinda people he is and works for
Honestly, this mission made me go back an redo everything. I mean the game alluded to Song being a walking talking WMD, but when you actually see it in the and take part in it, I was like, this bitch has got to die. No one should have this power.
I mean the NUS isn't gonna kill her, they will use that power for political means, the moon? That's the way to go, since the people doing the operation remove the power from her, they harvest the blackwall energy from her body essentially turning her into a regular person, that's why you get her kit after the ending. Who harvests the power? We have no idea, still there's a ton of wmds in this world.
That's why she's going to the moon to get rid of the rouge AI in her.. beside, if you give her up to the NUSA they'll just keep using her as an WMD.
@@kitchenersown in the moon awaits Mister Blue Eye, whom is aligned with "the things beyond" and in the whole Peralez side gig.
So not exactly a good option either
@@tinatpasselepoivre I'm aware of that, but the truth is, V can't change the world. Even if V doesn't take the job, someone else will. And I'd rather have an apocalyptic world where V and songbird have the slightest chance of survival than an apocalyptic world without them.
@@kitchenersown giving her up to be used as a weapon considering the damage being done to her seems pretty cold since she'll now be a prisoner after helping to shoot down the president. You think they'll give a shit about her well being after that. No, they'll use her up until she dies from the damage. Mr. Blue Eyes would probably do the same. He's just an AI avatar anyway. It's better V just kills her so no one gets what they want because none of them have good intentions. Sometimes the only winning move is to make sure everyone loses.
Best ending is to buy the DLC and not play any of it. This the only way to kill Myers.
Wow the first time I did this I usually just shot him in the head. I never knew he had a whole animation and mine for being shot in the chest. Damn it. They got me again. BO2 didn’t the same crap with Mason XD.
Anybody else feel like they were locked out from gunning Reed down in this ending? My character wouldn’t pull the trig on him no matter what
did anyone else just get shot by reed cause they werent ready for what amounts to a glorified quick time event?
Should have just been a cutscene. It wouldnt really take away from the feeling that you did it or whatever because you already pressed the button labeled “draw weapon”
too damn late?
Not like you can hack and stun him
Can you shoot reed and then songbird
um nope
2:20 why did it cut off lol
It's not.
@@_-TARS_it did
Thats why the king of cups ending is the best
king of cups is killing so mi
@@Tsumefan2 yup, which is why its the best ending. She wont be on myers hands nor the blue eyed mans. She also wont have to worry about how shes a ticking time bomb. She'll finally have peace and She'll also die knowing that someone cared for her, that being v. Yes its bittersweet but in comparison to the other endings? The king of cups is better by a mile. This is my opinion tho so dont be mad😘
No
@@nicogaiden1498 ok
honestly? helping So mi get to the moon is by far one of the worst endings
you arnt saving her, sure we saved her from death but shes traded hands from Myers to Mr blue eyes
She betrays you, plays you for a goddamn fool.
worst of all? if she doesnt get her way and decide to help reed at the neural matrix, she destroys everyone in her path and goes down into cynosure to essentially let ais through to this world.
shes a walking talking nuke, its best to side with Reed and then kill her. Reed comes to an understanding at the end and plans to leave the NUSA, Songbird is put to rest.
and most importantly people stop poking at the sleeping dragon that is the blackwall.
Uhh what are you talking about? Helping her get to the moon is by far the best ending! That's the ONLY option that actually saves her and lets her LIVE HER life.
Handing her over to Myers (Langley) is likely eternal imprisonment/slavery in some cyberspace fashion - Reed even explains that the neural matrix couldn't help her because the blackwall had destroyed too much of her (But that she still lives... And will return to "duty" - "a fate worse than death" as So Mi calls it).
Besides - who turned her into a walking talking Nuke? Myers. Reed confirmed that. And letting her save her life untangles her from the Blackwall protocols (And Myers who continues to entangle her further into the blackwall).
- Are you a Corpo??
This still somehow feels like the wrong ending I know that reed is a loyal dog but so mi lied her ass off and tried to make us keep our promise to helping her and her plan was to leave us out to dry and die so i “betrayed” her because in the words of V she dicked us down already
Is this ending as bad as it seems
Is day is one of the best endings to it!
IMO the best ending. Most morally sound one aswell.
Every ending here is bad, after every one of them you can feel some sort of guilt
@@bartoszboboryko4684 I didnt. I didnt hate Reed, but didnt care much for him either. Despite me knowing, well into this, that Song was lying, and that she planned the plane crash. Once i learned why Song did all this, my path was clear.
Bro the Nusa turned Songbird into a cyborg slave. There is no world where a moral person should give her to them. I say this ending is best morally and then second best is the one where you help her die in the Cynosure core. That's it. I won't do any other. Myers is a c**t.
Female V sounds so lame lmao
no she doesn’t lmfao 😂 you’re just another woman-hater
She sounds like a real person. It's called great voice acting.
its called virgins being females on games@@zeezoldyck1924
Male V*
Male V sounds lame.
I uh maybe shot him in the head in this scene, i was thinking "life or death" and ofc i tested to see if hed shoot me which i was right, so next spawn 1 to his dome and he fell back like dead weight, didnt know you could centre mass him and itd be different.