The General Judgment and General Resurrection
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2022
- Fr. Gregory Pine dives into the general judgment and general resurrection, and explains what the Catholic Church means by these terms. With all Eschatological philosophy there is no certainty but the Church affords a general Theological outline and ideas of what the end of the world might look like in terms of God's judging the earth.
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The theory of refracting from Christ's eminence should empower us sinners.
It should also make those of us who HAVE NOT committed a great confession be drawn closer to Catholicism, and seek the traditions and the sacraments. We NEED to confess and take penance. We NEED to take REAL and wholesome communion. We NEED to strongly understand and embrace being baptized. And so forth.
Peace be with you Fr. Gregory, and everyone at Pints w/ Aquinas!
Peace be with you all, readers! :)
Dear Jesus please help me with the fear and worry I am dealing with. I know I will make it through this hard time with your guidance. I have two beautiful boys both are autistic and non verbal. I’m so overwhelmed at times. My husband passed away years ago. So I’m all alone. I have no family to lean on. I lost my job over declining the vaccine. LIKE MANY OTHERS! I declined due to my pre existing health conditions lupus and heart disease. I’ve been struggling to provide for myself and my children since losing my job from Forsyth hospital. I’m now waitressing but not making nearly enough. Every month is a battle to not end up on the streets with my two children. I’m constantly in fear of losing our home. To even think about being on the streets with two young children is terrifying. But even as I face homelessness seemingly every month. I have faith, God will provide. HE HAS THIS FAR! I have been put down mocked and harassed even accused of lying. These are all tricks from the enemy, to hurt me. It’s working, I’m already ashamed and embarrassed over my situation. I don’t want anything but prayers. God bless
I will be praying for you. I found this pray for you St Francis De Sales
Do not look forward in fear to the changes in life;
rather, look to them with full hope that as they arise,
God, whose very own you are, will lead you safely through all things; and when you cannot stand it, God will carry you in His arms.
Do not fear what may happen tomorrow; the same understanding Father who cares for you today will take care of you then and every day.
He will either shield you from suffering or will give you unfailing strength to bear it. Be at peace, and put aside all anxious thoughts and imaginations.
Jesus bless and protect you and your children continually forever. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You are a lot more courageous then me. You have my respect.
My nightly Rosary is for you tonight. May God bless you and your family 🙏💜.
Wow I’m thinking about your vision of how Christ is glorified by our love for each other… all day it’s followed me.
Now I realize the poor souls aren’t in purgatory they’re in hell. The souls in purgatory are suffering but as long as we the church militant are praying for them, especially our masses and rosarías, we are still able to forge bonds with them. We can pray for them even total strangers and ask them to be present for us at our death and particular judgment. This is so amazing, infinite, mighty, immortal. We are the body of Christ. We love God first and then each other. Grant us Mercy Jesus as we in thought action and deed grant Mercy to each other.
Thank you Father Gregory.
After replaying this portion multiple times am I understanding correctly that this means, When we fill up what is lacking in ourselves? with the sufferings of our Lord Jesus Christ. This makes since to me now.
As you spoke I kept thinking of the assurance that “God works all things for good.” Even our sin and failure. So perhaps when we see our sin revealed beside the sin of others, as you spoke of in the beginning, rather than shame the feeling will be one of unspeakable gratitude. Had I not suffered in that way, the soul beside me would not have been saved. I’m thinking of people like the founder of alcoholics anonymous, a miserable sinner whose salvation became a gateway to salvation for millions. God works all things for good.
I haven't read about purgatory in the Bible, but I think it's something we experience in life when we resist love and justice through fear or pride; then we experience the discipline our behaviour deserves until we call out for mercy in repentance. Everything else made alot of sense and gave me a deeper yearning for my life to be lived in the full power of the HOLY Spirit, thank you and blessings upon blessings :)
There is a lot of Catholic teaching you will not find in the Bible............
Thank you for this channel and this video, It's important to seek and find. It's like Dune, but even more nuanced and interpersonal. You refill the glass of my faith when it's not full.
Consequently, love begets love. We will be crying, generously giving and taking in seeing God as promised. The vision will be ineffable and yet we know...in knowing, God will speak His plan, particularly and peculiarly simplified from beginning to end of the salvation of Creation. Which for now, we are charity IN ACTION...but in the general resurrection, it will be fabulous! like meeting your love for the first time. It will be perfect. Spectacular. United atlast!
Thank you Father!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this!🙏❤✝
After listening to this I finally understand what’s meant by saying our purpose is to glorify God. I’m going to listen again with the playback speed on slow because this was a lot and he talks fast.
The book “The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience” by Christine Watkins offers a theory that many have experienced. They call it an illumination of conscience, where for judgement people who have such an encounter see their soul from Christ’s view.
All the pain that those people caused others is felt as though they were in those peoples shoes. And it is in that review that those who experience the enormity of the pain they caused … feel shame and unworthy of salvation.
At the end of it people have a choice … repent, be humbled and love Jesus. Or to turn away in shame and condemn yourself for the evil you have done. Those whose experiences are shared in the book talk about the transformation their lives underwent after their illumination of conscience and how blessed they were to experience it.
All of it is a personal experience with Jesus.
I have had 2 dreams. 1 as a young child of the judgement of my ancestors and family and 1 of that of humanity that had fashioned itself in sin and collectively how bad it had gotten. I have yet to see my own judgment. However it makes me wonder about these layers of finality? Collective humanity, community and self.
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Your theory of the Final Judgment and how Grace goes out to each individual reminds me of Ray-Tracing, the graphics technique, so I dub your theory "Grace-Tracing".
According to Our Lady of Tre Fontane (informally approved by Pope Pius XII on October 5, 1947, when he blessed the Virgin of Revelation), end of the world simply means end of an age (era).
I see what you describe as being a branch in a huge tree, only looking up at Christ and the branches who blessed and came before me.
'General' resurrection. I am a Catholic of 70 years and I have never heard heard that expression, 'general'.
@@dougcameron6609 he's not dull. I too struggle with Fr. Pine's videos, but it's because he's so cerebral.
@@dougcameron6609 I quite fancy his fashion of speaking, and the intimate, fraternal feeling of his videos.
@@dougcameron6609 I am referring to the
"general resurrection" - a term which I have not heard before. "I believe in the resurrection of the body". I have never heard "I believe in the general resurrection of the body".
@@dougcameron6609 I can't get enough Fr. Pine. I listen to all the popular priests too, but Fr. Pine's style of communication resonates most synchronistically with me.
@@chrisvandermerwe7111 I agree. I love listening to his videos.
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This was great! Thank you!
I release this is a controversial topic, but could you ever do a video covering the history of church teaching on modesty and what it means today?
I've heard conflicting opinions on if modesty is simply culturally bound or not, often times hearing things like a tribal woman in her culture is modest even when topless, because what matters is context. While context may matter insofar as it pertains to scandal I can't seem to reconcile that to the reason of wearing clothes in the first place, after the fall. I've heard varying opinions on what the tradition says and if the guidelines were published in the 30s and then reissued in the 50s are still in force, and if not is there any measure of objectivity in the issue.
Does modesty being first an interior disposition mean anything externally can constitute modesty if the internal disposition is correct?
Not to mention the varying opinions I've seen from Sensus fidelum, Fr Ripperger, and collen Hammond who published a book on the topic on women and pants etc.
Any clarity on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Is that the general judgement? What about the injustice done to us or to whole communities by evil people and those who condoned them? Is there any vendication for the ones who were harmed?
If the end of the world happens, I hope it does in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason....😅
Define 'first resurrection'! ... Rev 20.... I think for the most part of the video you were talking about the first resurrection.
The first resurrection is generally identified as the spiritual resurrection of the blessed after their deaths. The second resurrection is the more wholistic one: the ressurection of the body.
@@delsydebothom3544 Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee... don't you think that explantion is rather farfetched? I don't buy it... there are no multiple resurrections for one individual.... only once you change from corruptability to incorruptsbillity... so first resurrection refers most certainly to a group of people...
@@petersonnenberg9526 "Most certainly"? I am willing to grant that the text as we have it can accommodate such a view, the phrase "most certainly" does, I think, overstate things by quite a wide margin.
In any case, I am in this case comfortable with the interpretation I find most often in the Fathers; I can't see any reason why diverging from them here would result in a more likely account. So no, I don't think it to be far-fetched.
Judgement is not an algorithm!
I appreciate your ministry Fr. Pine.
Could you explain: “When we fill up what is lacking in the sufferings of our Lord Jesus Christ.” I was under the understanding that there was nothing lacking in the sufferings of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus said in Matthew 23:30-32 that the Jews would not only murder Jesus, but also those whom he would send (the apostles etc.). By this, they would fill up the measure of their sins so that wrath would come upon them at the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70 (Matthew 23:36; 24:34).
Paul also said in 1 Corinthians 4:9 that the apostles were the last to be condemned to death as martyrs, this is in reference to the verse you bring up, the sufferings that were lacking would be filled up by the persecution of the first century Jews that were against Christ and the Christians.
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Dr Brant Pitre has a great explanation on this topic (his last video, 4 days ago, deals with this). He is a fine Catholic theologian and professor who has a channel named “Catholic Productions”. You should check that channel because you will frequently see so many of Protestant misunderstandings at dogmatic level simply being derived from a complete and different set of exegetical interpretations. God bless!
@@masterchief8179 Thank you for the advise. I am very familiar with Dr. Brant Pitre and will listen to the video you suggested.
How can there be anything lacking in the sufferings of Jesus? Everything He accomplished was of infinite value. If anything was lacking, then his efforts for our salvation were insufficient, which means we are not saved. That "lacking" is a main point where the Catholic Church has gone off the rails, probably because they are trying to justify the doctrine of purgatory.
Hi Fr. Pine, your theory of the general judgement is very interesting! I just have a few musings of my own.
I think that, not only do God's graces have to be made manifest, but also the effects of our sins (the "have not" vectors in your description), because we have the right to know if somebody else's sin has harmed us in spiritual or worldly ways. I do not think this would cause embarrassment for those who are saved because, for example, if someone dressing immodestly was a near occasion of sin for others, that gives God the opportunity to show His mercy by giving the others more grace to resist the temptation than they would have otherwise needed at that moment. While they would not be proud of their sin by any means, I think the saved would observe the mercy of God as he fixes their messes and glorify Him more for it.
On the other hand, the damned would not be so happy because they can no longer love God.
Fr. sorry for my english first of all, I'd have a question: between the death and the general judgment, where we go? I mean, a saint who dies today, where does he go? And a evil person? Thanks.
There are two judgements: the particular and the general. Immediately after we die, we go through the particular judgement, where our souls are judged by the Lord and we go to our eternal destination: either hell or heaven (usually going through purgatory temporary before heaven). But our bodies remain on the earth. In the last judgement (or general judgement) all bodies will be resurrected, meaning that our souls will reencounter with them, and all men will be judged by the Lord before the whole world. After that, we enter with our bodies and souls into our eternal destination
@@henriquegoulart6133 thanks a lot, very good answer and I found out a thing I didn't know: we will be living only through our soul after the particular judgment.
Question: how is it possible?
@@andreacarbonari for God, all things are possible. And also, our souls are what animate our bodies
@@henriquegoulart6133 yes I know it I meant if there are hypotesis on how it could be from some "dottori della Chiesa" (doctors of Church, literally, but I don't know if it's correct) or some theologians. But I thank you anyway because I didn't find out this in any research I did.
@@andreacarbonari Well this I'm not sure. I can, however, recommend you some books on Catholicism that talk also about the judgement. I'd recommend "The Faith Explained" by father Léo Thrése and the Catechism of the Catholic Church that has plenty of references, including from several doctors of the Church (both are available online)
But our sins are forgiven and wiped clean
@Thomas tlimon.westlaw You're right. Thanks. Comment deleted. My bad.
Is there an official Catholic stance on millennialism? Not too long ago a watched a video by a Protestant who was doing the whole Book of Daniel day-year calculation routine and it got me thinking about if the Church has any official stance on the matter.
The doctrine of Millenarisn, where Christ reigns for 1,000 years before the General Resurrection, has been condemned.
@@AndyYoung789 it has been neglected and rejected rather than condemned from 4th cent on ...
@@petersonnenberg9526 Actually, rejected (not neglected) ...as per Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, by Ludwig Ott. I didn't go into any details as the poster only wanted a snap reply.
Hard millenialism as in Jesus ruling on earth and having a minister of economy, is condemned.
The Church is closer to the amillenial view.
It is where Christ reigns symbolically as his Church is dominant. And the timespan of 1000 years could also be symbolic. And as mentioned in Revelation, in the end of those 1000 years, the devil will be let loose. This statement reflects our time period where sin is prevalent, everywhere we go.
As a Catholic and as someone who can rarely see the dead and very rarely demons, one of my biggest problem with the church is why would I confess or talk with a priest who's experience with the Lord is academic. It's like asking a veteran farming to go to war vs a farmer going to war.
@@dougcameron6609 my understanding of the Lord is different as someone who has been in the battle field of good and evil, so why should I look for church guidance by a person who can only regurgitate the knowledge of God but not his wisdom. That's my argument. It's like talking to a doctor out of school vs a doctor with years of practice..
Only God forgives sin
1441 Only God forgives sins.39 Since he is the Son of God, Jesus says of himself, "The Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins" and exercises this divine power: "Your sins are forgiven."40 Further, by virtue of his divine authority he gives this power to men to exercise in his name.41
1442 Christ has willed that in her prayer and life and action his whole Church should be the sign and instrument of the forgiveness and reconciliation that he acquired for us at the price of his blood. But he entrusted the exercise of the power of absolution to the apostolic ministry which he charged with the "ministry of reconciliation."42 The apostle is sent out "on behalf of Christ" with "God making his appeal" through him and pleading: "Be reconciled to God."43
Reconciliation with the Church
1443 During his public life Jesus not only forgave sins, but also made plain the effect of this forgiveness: he reintegrated forgiven sinners into the community of the People of God from which sin had alienated or even excluded them. A remarkable sign of this is the fact that Jesus receives sinners at his table, a gesture that expresses in an astonishing way both God's forgiveness and the return to the bosom of the People of God.44
1444 In imparting to his apostles his own power to forgive sins the Lord also gives them the authority to reconcile sinners with the Church. This ecclesial dimension of their task is expressed most notably in Christ's solemn words to Simon Peter: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."45 "The office of binding and loosing which was given to Peter was also assigned to the college of the apostles united to its head."46
1445 The words bind and loose mean: whomever you exclude from your communion, will be excluded from communion with God; whomever you receive anew into your communion, God will welcome back into his. Reconciliation with the Church is inseparable from reconciliation with God.
The sacrament of forgiveness
1446 Christ instituted the sacrament of Penance for all sinful members of his Church: above all for those who, since Baptism, have fallen into grave sin, and have thus lost their baptismal grace and wounded ecclesial communion. It is to them that the sacrament of Penance offers a new possibility to convert and to recover the grace of justification. The Fathers of the Church present this sacrament as "the second plank [of salvation] after the shipwreck which is the loss of grace."47 catechism of the Catholic church
Because when you confess to a priest, you are no longer principly interacting with him as an individual. His office is coordinated towards to good of the Mystical Body--and, by extension, to you--in a particular way. God ordinarily wishes you to recieve his forgiveness through the sacramental action of the Mystical Body of Christ. He desires this for your good, and it impossible to resist the good God wills for us to have without also holding God himself in contempt.
How can there be anything lacking in the sufferings of Jesus? Everything Our Lord accomplished was of infinite value. If anything was lacking, then his efforts for our salvation were insufficient, which means we are not saved. That "lacking" is a main point where the Catholic Church has gone off the rails, probably because they are trying to justify the doctrine of purgatory. I got this from several of the comments, and from listening to other Catholic teachers, and it throws the whole scheme of salvation into question.
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A “complete joy” that becomes “more complete”… that just sounds ehh. At the particular judgement YOUR SOUL is given the complete and fully satisfying joy of the beatific vision in heaven. But YOU are not completely yourself in heaven until you have YOUR BODY. The particular judgement is the judgement of your soul. But the general judgement is my actual judgement because after my resurrection I will once again receive my true existence as a HUMAN PERSON (body-soul composite) and God must actually judge ME (the complete man) not just my soul.
Maybe when we look in Christ's eyes we will simultaneously see Him and Catherine of Sienna, Padre Pio, St. Francis and Anne Catherine Emmerich and all. I read one person on line express shame at past sins. Such feelings might help us in this world so we don't repeat past sins. There are a few of mine that I'm very ashamed of. These days I immediately mentally ask for forgiveness for untoward thoughts. In the next life I suspect we'll do something like forget them (Psalms 103:12 Ezekiel 33:16). To test St. Faustina if she was really communicating with Christ someone told her to ask Christ what sins he confessed in his last confession. Christ told Faustina to tell him, "I forgot." Maybe it's my morbid curiosity; I want it to be plain as day who assassinated JFK at the last judgment (There are some other phenomena that puzzle me I'd like to understand). After seeing this post I'll try to keep my eyes and my heart fixed on Christ.
I also, when it is brought up in the liturgy, tend to make a mental picture of the sky being ripped open and Christ descending.
Yet my ashes will probably be interred when Christ returns.
Hello!
You mentioned hell and eternal punishment. For me this is difficult to connect with a loving god. For example 1. John 4:8: “Whoever does not love has not come to know God, because God is love.”
Matthew 25 and Jude both describe eternal punishment, as do many other chapters of the Bible. Universality is a heresy.
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Torture is a crime. And when our god really is a loving father and not a very bad criminal, bible verses, that mention punishment with eternal fire (like Mat 25 or Jude) must be symbolic terms that describe an eternal destruction or a final punishment that will be remembered for all eternity!
This must also be the reason why the bible says that only good people will live for ever.
“Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there.”
Psalm 37:10
Simply gone!😁
@@matthiasgrimm8180 Are you Jehova's Witness by any chance? You sound like one
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Yes !😁
I appreciate father Gregory Pine’s topics and discussion. But, he comes off a little dry. I cant seem to make it through his videos. I am very interested in the topics, but maybe he can liven up his topics with more inflection and excitement in his voice. That might be too much to request though. No offense intended.
How old are you? Just curious
Fr Gregory, kindly dumb down these abstract explanations more
He talks too fast! Can't keep up sorry.
Such an amazing salad of theological verbiage!
I have a Master's degree in religion and philosophy, and I didn't understand a single complete sentence! Two-thirds in, and I give up! If you can't put it in simple language for a layman, why are you telling us this stuff? So many qualifications of your ideas, put so obcurely in technical terms! I felt like you were reading a dictionary of obtuse Scrabble words, without the definitions! Dude, please! Go back and rewrite this in simple words, let it be as long as it needs to be, and talk slowly. It would also be good to organize it into a progression of talking points, and lead to a comprehensible conclusion. Thank you. I respect your efforts, but I am leaving without the enlightenment you meant to share.
If you mess things up extra bad then and only then I'll maybe return
Republicans: *frothing at the mouth* genocide it is lord!!
You blabber nonsense
What do you know about truly being born again? If you were to really feel the spiritual wounds of Christ to its utmost conclusion, then your spirit would also die and be publicly crucified like his. At this point, you would understand the effect God and pride can have on peoples lives and minds, and they are not always good or beautiful. Why do you think Jesus would go around saying he was the Jewish God and then purposefully get himself killed trying to say he was just a humble servant who cared about love and forgiveness? It’s because he was trying to kill God through his own life and have him resurrected through his own pain and suffering into a kind and benevolent God. But Christians do not see the same God as Christ. They still think God gives people authority. Christ’s sacrifice and death on the cross proves God does not save anyone, even himself. The only end result of pride is spiritual suicide, also proven by Christ.