How to replace Pitman Shaft Seals
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2017
- This is Pacific to the 99-04 Jeep Grand Cherokee but is very similar to almost all Saginaw steering gearboxes.
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That's a great video. There's a lot of effort involved in showing every detail. The light was perfect. Thanks brother
I watched the bunch of these videos and everybody destroyed the washers, drilling them and pulling them out with the screw and I said what if I want to keep my washers and reuse them? I kept growing and found this video.Thank you for doing it the right way.
You're very welcome I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful and thank you for watching.
The repair kit should have all new washers in it.
To get the seals out you can just take the circlip out. Then start the engine and turn the steering wheel either direction until it stops,then hold it there. It will ( most likely) blow the seals out. Kinda messy but it's easy. Make sure the tires are straight if you take the shaft out of the steering box and don't turn the steering wheel until you put the shaft back in the steering box. Oh yeah...put the nut back on the shaft before the vehicle is started. So you don't lose the washer. And so you can see what seal goes where. I don't actually take the shaft out anymore. I clean the rust off the shaft with a brass wire wheel. I made some spacers out of pipe.I Dremeled out a couple big thick washer that fits over the shaft. Then I use the steering shaft nut to press the new seals in. I just clean the rust off the inside of the steering box with those green abrasive pads. Then start the engine again. Just in case any of the rust & dirt got up by the bearing. When you start the car with no seals in it. It will blow any contaminants out. If you can't find the exact size washer,you can trim a bigger one down with a bench grinder. I have a 96 ZJ. I put a steering box strengther on my steering box and I haven't had any problems with the seals since. I think the box flexes a little under stress since the shaft is so long. Plus it's not unheard of for the steering box to rip right off the frame. The spot welds can break. Especially if you have larger than stock tires.or take it off road. It's not a bad idea to beef up where the box mounts to the frame with an aftermarket steel plate also.
Great video. Thanks for showing how to replace the seal in the least painful way. I replaced the seal one time without removing the shaft and it was a real pain. Also, good job on the detail provided, and the good lighting on the parts.
This is one of the best breakdowns of replacing those seals. For such a small job it's a PITA. Gotta make sure you have a GOOD set of snap ring pliers. The ones at HF suck and the snapring keeps popping off the pliers.
You got that right. Snapring pliers need the correct pin size on the tool, or you just have hell. I reach for my knipex that has a 45 degree offset when it comes to getting larger snaprings in and out of odd places. This is one of those jobs.
Had the same problem.
Glad to see a new video. I was starting to worry about you. You have some of the most beneficial and educational videos I've found for working on my XJ.
Great video. Replacing my seals today and now I’m going to pull the shaft back just like you showed here. Looks way easier than trying to do it with the shaft left in. A big help thank you.
I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7l 4x4 also like you have. Your videos are straight to the point and really make it easy to follow and work on mine thank you. I am from the RUST BELT buddy lol😅
Thank you I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful yes I once also was from the rust belt I don't miss that.
Really good video! Never did this job before, doing it on a 98 Ram tomorrow! Thanks for the help!
Thanks you have a very professional way of explaining the job 👍🏻
Masterful! Many thanks! You're a talented mechanic and instructor.
Thanks for posting this. I'm doing the same job on my WJ now and at first I thought I was insane for not seeing a snap ring. Then I thought it might have been jacked up by the PO's shop since they didn't always do the right job (non-HO plugs in an HO, even though the service order had the right part).
Nope, it's just Jeep being Jeep!
Excellent detail and instruction, good job and thanks.
Thank for this video martin!! Life saver just finished mine today, second go at it first time I couldn’t even get the pitman arm off but with your tips got it done 💪🏽👌🏽
I glad to hear it worked out for you.
Very clean and clean.Many thanks!
Thanks Martin ! As always great video
Thank you, glad you liked it and found it helpful.
Excellent video! Thank you!
I left the shaft in & I used a 3" long wood screw & screwed it into the side wall of the dust seal & also the oil seal & as I tightened the screw down it acted like an auger & the seals pulled out. My only problem on the oil seal was that the sharp end of the screw dug in between the bearings just above the seal & the tip broke off & was stuck up there in the metal. I had to pry it out & nothing was hurt, all metal up there. So maybe just get the screw tapped in & pull on it to get the seal out. When putting the new seals in I used the washer against the seals & then tapped them with a pipe that fit over the shaft = my sockets were too big around to go up in.
Thanks bro, I had the same problem and I took your steps and manage to do it very easy ... thanks for your valuable explanation... ;)
That was fantastic, the best video I've seen. Just found mine leaking. Thank you for sharing. 👍👍👍
Thanks for your in depth video. It may have given me enough confidence to do mine my self.
You can do it!
Great video!
I had the same concern, thanks for the expertise.
Good Job! Thanks for the lesson,
When I need to do some DIY on my 1999 Jeep Cherokee 4.7 THE FIRST help I look to is martinbuilt. This maybe Pre-Beard Martin but it Sure Show me How to do it and do it Right! Thanks and thanks for some of your others Videos I've gone to for Help... God Bless.... Ron
Thank you, Ron, I really appreciate that!
Nicely done video. Odd thing is, the poorly drawn directions on my kit say the snap ring goes on last 🤔 I mean ultimately, I'll see in what order mine were installed, but there was a fella in another video who was very adamant that the solid black plastic ring should be above the snap ring, because he also found his snap ring in the second position, as you did.... I didn't finish the video, because it was long and drawn out 😂 so maybe he changed his tune by the end, I dunno.
Thanks for the absolute ultimate how to video perfect step by step thanks for your time Brother you got a kind Heart.
Thank you, Marty, I appreciate that.
Good Job very informative. 100% better than the last nob jock I did not watch
Awesome video
Thank you I really appreciate that. I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful. ☺️
Hi all from Russia Krasnodar region, your video helped me a lot with the repair of my chevrolet silverado! Thank you very much! 👍
Glad it helped, you are welcome.
@@martinbuilt Thank you!
Don't take shaft out.... Just put arm back on loose then turn the wheel until the pump blows out the seals!! Save yourself an hour or 2
The thing about these steering boxes is if there is any crud in the system... it's going straight for that lower bearing and seal. Most of us don't hardly think about changing out power steering fluid, yet we should. Once every 3 years ought to do it.
Jeeps looking good looks way better than when we first went and picked it up not that it look bad when you got it but you really done some good work to it still haven't installed that light bar I bought from you
Thank you, nice to hear from you. Do I need to come down there and help you install that light? lol
You could've blown it out by turning the steering wheel real hard to lock it will blow the seal out lol
thanks
9:10 i know it’s late but i’m doing this on my ‘98 XJ, and an easy way to take off that outer seal without taking off the pitman shaft is to use a nail or screw and actually break and pull that seal out
Great video! 1.25" PVC also works for pressing the seals in.
Thanks for watching and sharing.
Yeap, it goes great when ya got the right tools and mind set...
I got a chevy truck that has this problem and I was wondering could I change it without removing the gear box .this was very helpful ,Great Video !!!!!!
Thank you, glad you found it helpful.
@@martinbuilt I love to work on my own vehicles and I always check with youtube university before taking on something new
I have a leak on the top of the gear box it looks like the middle screw because i have a puddle at the top what seal are at the top where the 4 bolt are
Fantastic job man
I do have a Jeep Wrangler 2008 have the same problem do you think I can do the same . Would be the same seal part 8717
Please help me if you can
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Romani
good job, doing it tomorrow
thanks...checked out your channel. Nice Camaro
@@martinbuilt thank you, Ive owned that car since 87, did everything but paint, everything.
Did the seal. Piece of cake. Doing it this way allowed me to polish the shaft where the seal sits. Awesome Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great vídeo, I just subscribed because I saw that you have this jeep ,
And I am on a situation where I need your advise ,
I have a 2000 jeep grand Cherokee Laredo and I don't know a lot about cars but I like this jeep a lot and it is in perfect conditions , now I am getting some extra money and I and wondering if a should sell it and buy another
Car which will be newer , but it would be a car because I don't have the money to buy a newer jeep,
And the other option would be to use the money to make my jeep look nicer , new lights, rims , springs and even paint etc.
Please I would appreciate you're feedback would it be worth it to keep it , because what concerns me about it is the year since is from the 2000.
Please let me know your opinion.
Thanks in advance!.
Hmm my sector shaft moves up and down about a half inch without taking cover off. Does that mean something not right?
I put the outer seal face up would that be a problem?
Great video. Much easier to pull the shaft in order to remove/ install the seals. The kit comes with the large o-ring. Where does that go? Thanks for this very helpful video!
If your particular kit comes with a large o-ring seal go on the underside of the cover of the four bolts that you removed
Can not get the snap ring to lock into the grove. The seals blow out up pressure
Thanks for the video, mine is leaking just like that. How is the repair holding up? Still dry to this day?
Yes still nice and dry, no leaks
Not sure if this was mentioned but I am almost positive the second seal you put in was placed wrong side out. I have replaced many seals and the open end with the spring is always placed toward the pressure side…..in this case, towards the gearbox where the oil is held in. I can’t be dogmatic but I have never seen it done the other way.
The second seal is to keep contaminants from getting in.
I have done this twice on my silverado 4 wheel drive which has way more parts in the way under the truck. I took the whole box out.it is leaking again as i think i nicked the oil seal when installing it. I think i will do it your way now. This job sucks. Almost as bad as replacing fuel pump with dropping the tank full of gas. Just did that yesterday.
If you're sliding the seal over the splines of the Pitman shaft, wrap some electric tape over the splines to make sure that the splines do not damage the seal. Good luck 👍
Hey, this video saved me! I do have a question though. Do you or anyone watching know why the top end (where the 4 bolts are) started leaking after removal and changing the seals? I've taken it all apart and couldn't see anything. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
There is a seal on that, it may have gotten damaged and now needs to be replaced. 😬
@@martinbuilt thank you. I see the seal. How do I remove that seal?
FYI, I'm working on a 2004 grand cherokee
my mech wants 1100.00 to replace the seals on my 94 Isuzu trooper. would like to have seen the old seals on yr Jeep, what was the cause of the leak/what actually failed?.
Many times with steering gear boxes it is hard to see where the damage to the seal is, the steering gear box is under such high pressure that it doesn't take that much to start a leak.
How do you fix the play in the steering wheel of these jeeps?
first check the tie rod ends and if there good then you can adjust the steering box, center bolt and nut on the top cover but a little adjustment goes a long way.
Wire brush clean the Splines., Super Clean , with a small wire brush , for drill ! Than , I always PUT Anti Seize compound, ( By Permatex) on the SPLINES, before putting the Pitman arm back on the Shaft .... Cheap insurance when to take apart for the Future .. ... .. .. IT will make LIFE easier in case of next repair .. What is Anti-Seize? Anti-seize products are applied to bolts, fasteners, flanges and other clamped interfaces to prevent galling, seizing and corrosion, as well as lubricating to ease disassembly.
I guess the XJ is long gone by now?
ShawnMc749
No I still have it and have projects I still want to do to it. I just have been having fun with this WJ
I like the mechanic vs engineer negativity...
Right therree .... -.-
Why thy are writing i can't see how u remove
Why don't you just start the motor and turn the wheel and let the pressure blow the seals out.