Scientology HQ - Inside The Bizarro World Of CLEARWATER

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
  • Clearwater politician Mark Bunker takes us inside the bizarre and weird world of Clearwater, Florida, to see how scientology has taken over the place. The presence of the so-called church of scientology has totally changed the face of Clearwater, making investors shy away. Scientology is known for Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Leah Remini (who left), and its leader David Miscavige.
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Комментарии • 311

  • @AndrewGold1
    @AndrewGold1  Год назад +60

    Have you been to Clearwater? Is it time that scientology Clears...off!?

    • @nerminodkan401
      @nerminodkan401 Год назад +9

      I live in Clearwater. Come , visit and see the insanity of super power building of Flag Base..

    • @Kreepyb5
      @Kreepyb5 Год назад +2

      HeyAndrew! Just tuning in... love your content.😊

    • @anonymisspatriot6470
      @anonymisspatriot6470 Год назад +4

      My grandmother was a real estate agent in Clearwater for over 20 years.

    • @walker291952
      @walker291952 Год назад +4

      It’s a beautiful city

    • @phanatic23608
      @phanatic23608 Год назад +11

      Went there for a few days while on vacation. Great beaches. It’s really beautiful. There’s so much potential for that city, but Scientology….

  • @MHMama
    @MHMama Год назад +28

    I grew up in Clearwater in the 50s, 60s, & 70s. My great grandparents, grandparents, parents, & my oldest sister are buried there. We spent many enjoyable days downtown at the Ritz theatre, Capitol theatre, McCrory’s etc. I worked at the downtown bake shop at 17 in the late 60s. My parents took us to all the downtown parades. Christmas parade & the Fun & Sun parade we’re are favorites.
    Now, I don’t recognize our hometown. You can’t have parades anymore. The movie houses are gone. The Ft Harrison hotel is no longer a place for weddings or proms.
    I moved to Tampa & avoid Clearwater since my mother died. This is not our town anymore. It has the feel of Jones Town & it sickens me.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +4

      ah wow, such a shame. thank you for commenting nancy!

  • @repeatdefender6032
    @repeatdefender6032 Год назад +17

    It’s depressing that this blatant violation of human rights is not immediately squashed by the government.

  • @AcuPunk
    @AcuPunk Год назад +26

    Mr. Bunker is an HONORABLE man 🙏 talk about spending your life helping others!

    • @patricialeeds8532
      @patricialeeds8532 Год назад +1

      I'm sorry you feel that way. He is wonderful for our city. Take the time to get to know him think for yourself. Have a wonderful day

    • @martina5296
      @martina5296 Год назад +2

      @@patricialeeds8532 Nadja Profit was complimenting Mark Bunker as an honorable man spending his life helping others.
      I at first thought 'honorable' was 'horrible', so I reread it. I wasn't wearing my glasses.🤓

    • @AcuPunk
      @AcuPunk Год назад

      @@patricialeeds8532 I’m not sure if this comment was directed toward me 🤔 I’m guessing “no” 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @MegaasAlexandros
      @MegaasAlexandros Год назад

      Must have read it quick and thought you might have said horrible man.

  • @merrywalsh2809
    @merrywalsh2809 Год назад +15

    This man is very brave and selfless. He is saving lives.

  • @elliesimpson1313
    @elliesimpson1313 Год назад +7

    My daughter, her children and I evacuated to Clearwater 3 years ago to avoid a hurricane. We drove through downtown just to view the Scientology buildings. We were followed out by 2 SUVs. Creepy

    • @EricDraven-qd9pu
      @EricDraven-qd9pu 3 месяца назад

      BS. I just left there after a week in Clearwater....I walked by every COS building taking pictures. Nobody cared and nobody followed me. You clowns with all the "creepy" talk need to grow up

  • @AcuPunk
    @AcuPunk Год назад +55

    It is creepy seeing DM hovering over Marks shoulder there 😅

    • @JasonJrake
      @JasonJrake Год назад +18

      Little known fact:
      DM hasn’t always been short. Shortly after joining Sea Org he used his OT-9 superpowers to occasionally shrink down to the size of a thimble, allowing him to sneak around and learn gossip and secrets which he leveraged to take over from LRH.
      After securing his power, he kept himself just short enough that people underestimate him. He then destroyed the OT-9 level so that no one else will discover the shrinking ability and use it against him.
      If you wonder how I could possibly know this, I learned it from a parasitic thetan during an auditing session 😅.

    • @pixie3760
      @pixie3760 Год назад +3

      @@JasonJrake 😂

    • @jannoyes6248
      @jannoyes6248 Год назад +3

      @@JasonJrake thats some funny shit made me laugh

    • @mindsigh4
      @mindsigh4 Год назад

      Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, (aka~ Source) someone in comments recommended
      the death announcement of LRH, (on YT)
      it's Miscavige, some lawyer & a personal assistant of LRH speaking to the flock, laying out the future path of the "church",
      it made me sad to think there were/are genuine believers, i got a sense that Miscavige is in over his head & will probably ride this wave to whatever end,
      there is so much $ in real estate, i imagine he's got some offshore accounts he's been siphoning/skimming off funds to.

    • @martina5296
      @martina5296 Год назад +6

      It's obviously not a life size cutout. dm is so diminutive.

  • @Ania-cd2sh
    @Ania-cd2sh Год назад +29

    I been going to Clearwater beach at least once or twice a year for 20+ yrs. Crazy enough only been downtown twice and each time thought it was so quite and kinda eerie, that was even before knowing how much Scientology took over it. I bet if they didn’t there would be a huge nightlife there!

    • @techfive7202
      @techfive7202 14 дней назад

      I bet it would also be a shit hole. It's not the best neighbor

  • @ckSMITH1942
    @ckSMITH1942 Год назад +7

    Love Mark Bunker. He speaks so eloquently. Keep up the great work Wise Beard Man.

  • @martina5296
    @martina5296 Год назад +12

    I always enjoy listening to Mark Bunker. He always come across as optimistic and hopeful for Clearwater and the people who live there and most importantly wanting the best for Clearwater and the residents.
    I hope he's enjoying a happy life he deserves.
    Any organization, whether a church or charity, who has tax exempt status should have to provide actual proof (by the city, town) they operate in) that they are providing the area with prosperity and thriving businesses that are NOT in any way (tax shelters, dummy corps., etc.) associated with them or anyone working for them. Clearly scientology is packing their investment portfolios and killing Clearwater wellbeing and small businesses and therefore not providing any resident not affiliated with scientology any kind of benefit of a thriving community and providing revenue to pay for keeping up Clearwater, and all the expenses a city needs to pay for like police, fire, street upkeep, and schools.

  • @TheMegamanhero
    @TheMegamanhero Год назад +23

    On the edge has kept me at the forefront of modern day struggle and potential collapse of this terrible human manipulation experience. A religion has never rubbed me more wrong, and i wont stop until i can deprogram a person passively. Andrew thank you, idk what fuels your media coverage… its a legend though! 🎉

  • @Kreepyb5
    @Kreepyb5 Год назад +14

    This is a GREAT INTERVIEW!! He is so knowledgeable! And enjoy listening to him. Thankyou

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      Thanks Kristen !

    • @Kreepyb5
      @Kreepyb5 Год назад +1

      I love your interviews and find soooo much content and insight from them! Thanks again.

  • @nancybazzel853
    @nancybazzel853 Год назад +9

    Andrew your interviews are so good! You really know how to keep people coming back for more . You ask a question and then your quiet and let the person speak uninterrupted.

  • @agentshawnee
    @agentshawnee Год назад +3

    It’s super sus that the hotel workers would give someone his room number. That’s a big no no. They shouldn’t even be confirming someone is there let alone their room number.

  • @thomkatt3385
    @thomkatt3385 Год назад +7

    another great guest. love the Wise Beard Man💚
    sick of the US government's gutlessness regarding the cult of scientology.

    • @martina5296
      @martina5296 Год назад +1

      They are pathetic and want others to do their job while the claim the rewards without giving the real heroes any of their rightful acknowledgement.
      The IRS showed what a bunch of gutless cowards they are by letting a cult bully, extort and threaten them. There is more than enough evidence if t hey and the FBI, NSA, etc. would just investigate and question the hundreds, if not thousands of ex scientologists who know where the "bodies are buried" and could shut them down. Before they could easily protect the employees fully and protect t heir computer systems, etc. .
      But, scientology has billions of dollars and people in government are easily bribed. EASILY BRIBED.EVERY.SINGLE DAY.

    • @MsVanorak
      @MsVanorak Год назад +1

      same in the uk = in fact there only seems to be putin who has shut them down and sent them packing out of russia - and look how that went - over the course of a few years he has become global tyrant number 1 due to agitators creating an opposition to him. scientology must be a front for something.

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi Год назад +4

    Biggest mistake is governments granting Scientology the status of a religion.

    • @stevehyperdriver
      @stevehyperdriver Год назад

      It ticks all the boxes to be a religion. Mad story, life after death etc

    • @ladyelainefairchild3546
      @ladyelainefairchild3546 Год назад

      It’s not a mistake, it’s the price of freedom, government is not permitted to judge content.

  • @elliesimpson1313
    @elliesimpson1313 Год назад +5

    Upon Kirstie Alley's death from cancer today, after he expressed his sadness, he talked about why so many Scientologists have d I Ed of cancer. He also said Kirstie was a hard-core Scientologist and was verbally abusive to underlings because she thought that was what she was supposed to do. She became a Scientologist years ago after she went to Narcanon for a cocaine addiction

  • @OneMoreForZero
    @OneMoreForZero 8 месяцев назад +1

    We have 3 major downtowns in the Tampa Bay Area- Tampa, St. Pete and Clearwater. Clearwater is undoubtedly the most beautiful location of our downtown areas, but Clearwater is basically a ghost town. We have smaller quainter downtown areas, but of the 3 large cities, Clearwater is the most sad.

  • @HolleeTX
    @HolleeTX Год назад +5

    Clearwater is absolutely beautiful but downtown is extremely quiet and especially creepy when all of the blue vests are walking around.

    • @EricDraven-qd9pu
      @EricDraven-qd9pu 3 месяца назад +1

      No its not creepy at all. I was just there and nothing appeared spooky or creepy

  • @preciousgem6506
    @preciousgem6506 Год назад +4

    So awesome that you let him speak and don’t talk over him. Love it. Not that I don’t want to hear you lol but you get it

  • @ask604
    @ask604 Год назад +5

    I like the way you present different viewpoints, interactions and perspectives from people in regards to this cult.

  • @Kreepyb5
    @Kreepyb5 Год назад +5

    Love hearing his story behind the " story" !! Thankyou

  • @southphillylilly
    @southphillylilly Год назад +5

    I live in the next town over from Clearwater, Belleair Bluffs. There's no reason to go to Clearwater. It's either Scientology buildings or no tell motels.
    About 10 years ago, I was painting the exterior of the house, that's what I do for a living, and it was right next to this Scientology owned motel building.
    There was something strange going on with a guy trying to help somebody out of one of the windows. I mean, we were literally 20 feet from the building and you could quite clearly see that there were stacked beds, three or four high, in the room. Anyway, before the guy on the outside could get the person on the inside, through the window ,a couple of guys came up w walkie talkies and started to chase him until he jumped on his moped, and I'm guessing, made it to saftey.
    I always wondered what happened to the person inside of that window. Sad and quite scary.
    There's literally no reason to go to Clearwater. There are no restaurants or entertainment… Certainly exact opposite of Saint Pete.

  • @sugarpuddin
    @sugarpuddin Год назад +4

    In Clearwater, McCabbage more concerned his minions would see happy tourists. Same thing with all cult leaders. That is why they micromanage them.

  • @AllThingsFilm1
    @AllThingsFilm1 Год назад +1

    I guess David Miscavige doesn't want non-Scientology people wandering around their buildings out of fear they will see how empty they are. :P

  • @lesliewells1062
    @lesliewells1062 Год назад +3

    Thanks for another great video!! I'm so glad your guest is working against Scientology!! I'm reading Jon Atacks book, itsit's an amazing book. Also amazing is how evil and crazy LRH was.

  • @pixie3760
    @pixie3760 Год назад +2

    I'm finding these Scientology interviews very interesting. Thank you Andrew, we needed a professional journalist on RUclips. My daughter did law and journalism at Uni, and you do your profession proud.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      Aw thank you! And I bet your daughter did you proud. Law, no less !

    • @pixie3760
      @pixie3760 Год назад

      @@AndrewGold1 yep, she's one smart cookie. Got better grades than I ever did lol. She graduated with Honours.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      @@pixie3760 wow amazing!

  • @michellemooresings
    @michellemooresings Год назад +7

    I would have loved to see that video he mentioned about the Clearwater Police and Scientology.
    It's amazing how we can become bias depending on who's paying us, ha. That's exactly what's been happening with media. Chris Cuomo is a perfect example.

  • @elizabethlanders9805
    @elizabethlanders9805 Год назад +12

    Fascinating and informative interview as usual Andrew. Scientology seems to have two practicing objectives and that is, saving the world and being on the defense about their actions which is why they don't want people looking in to their affairs. They're aware that how they are going about saving the world is wrong which seems to me a terrific contradiction of morals. I keep trying to wrap my head around the fact that DM believes that what he's doing is right. This whole thing makes my brain hurt.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      thanks elizabeth, great comment as always!

    • @MsVanorak
      @MsVanorak Год назад

      in what way do they consider they are trying to save the world - i've seen none of that agenda?

    • @donnamorgan2522
      @donnamorgan2522 Год назад

      Delusional individuals see no wrong in what they do,DM would justify everything-someone else carries the can

  • @sharonjoubert7413
    @sharonjoubert7413 Год назад +11

    What a lovely man I must say kind and very human . Thank you Andrew for this this video and your guest was great 👍 🤗🤗❤❤️‍🩹❤❤️‍🩹

  • @phanatic23608
    @phanatic23608 Год назад +4

    Glad to see your channel taking off. Great content.

  • @dave7830
    @dave7830 Год назад +2

    I like the intro picture, it REALLY shows how short D. M. is if he has to look up 6" to Tom Cruise, who is pretty short himself.

    • @aslansown
      @aslansown Год назад

      I think his tailor confirmed that he was 5'1" .

  • @SpiceyKy
    @SpiceyKy Год назад +4

    I can not imagine going Downtown L.A. and it's dead silent! I'd freak TF OUT! Sounds like a horror movie of some sort.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      Exactly !!

    • @Jaebee2626
      @Jaebee2626 Год назад +1

      It’s like Truman Show on a Gotham city set. The Twilight Zone.

  • @brucextc
    @brucextc Год назад +3

    Wise Beard Man is Wise.

  • @Jo-razz
    @Jo-razz Год назад +4

    Mark bunker the wise bearded man, is a gentle soul and does a lot of good.✌👍

  • @flowerjpotter1629
    @flowerjpotter1629 Год назад +1

    Scientology has a lot of money and so many people in the background saying COS financially ruined them.

  • @Kreepyb5
    @Kreepyb5 Год назад +3

    I remember 60 minutes show about that

  • @user-fe2or2oc3u
    @user-fe2or2oc3u Год назад +1

    We have jw in our town. They do similar things and buy most of the houses here. It's become an unwelcoming town.

  • @Tertia_Optio
    @Tertia_Optio Год назад

    Oh Mark Bunker!! The only councilman with balls to take on the cult.

  • @lynnyhen
    @lynnyhen Год назад +1

    You are a good man Mark Bunker!!

  • @mumblesbadly7708
    @mumblesbadly7708 Год назад +5

    The city of Clearwater could do what a municipality in Conmecticut did to wrest control of prime land from owners who were underutilizing it: Use imminent domain to take possession of non-taxpaying Co$ properties within city limits and transfer them other non-Co$ entities for taxable economic development.

    • @mcoffeecation2153
      @mcoffeecation2153 Год назад

      Where was this in CT?

    • @mumblesbadly7708
      @mumblesbadly7708 Год назад +1

      @@mcoffeecation2153 I think it was New London….
      Yes! Kelo v. New London (2005) is the US Supreme Court ruling.

    • @mcoffeecation2153
      @mcoffeecation2153 Год назад

      @@mumblesbadly7708 Props to New London!

    • @mumblesbadly7708
      @mumblesbadly7708 Год назад +1

      @@mcoffeecation2153 Clearwater should seriously look into pulling a similar move on some of Scientology’s properties there in order to facilitate economic development.

    • @mcoffeecation2153
      @mcoffeecation2153 Год назад

      @@mumblesbadly7708 Definitley! Though in a quick Google search I don't see a mention of Scientology

  • @debbieward9732
    @debbieward9732 Год назад +4

    I remember Wikileaks had heaps of Scientology documents, I never read them, I just remember there was heaps of files.

    • @sugarpuddin
      @sugarpuddin Год назад +1

      How many Americans are willing to look through Wikileaks? Willing to assess honestly its contents? Wouldn't their findings reveal their world is a total fraud? How could they find balance in the Universe if they discover their world to be a fraud?
      Same for Scientologist. Same for Americans. It's all a cult and the people are needy and dependent. That is the herd mentality. Do we have the strength to break free and go it alone?

    • @cosmicmuffin322
      @cosmicmuffin322 Год назад +2

      They do, and you can also find and share them on The Pirate Bay. Once you read them it's astounding what an absolute pile of crap it is. Even the Bible or Torah or Quran, as violent and immoral as they are, are works of historical literature and have some literary or even artistic value. Scientology documents are a bunch of meaningless, impenetrable pseudoscientific cult lingo. That's it.

    • @sugarpuddin
      @sugarpuddin Год назад

      @@cosmicmuffin322 for many leaving religion, Scientology was a cure for the pain that comes with Nihilism

  • @elizabeths777
    @elizabeths777 Год назад +2

    Wise Beard Man speaks! Great interview.

  • @gidge9778
    @gidge9778 2 месяца назад

    They’ve bought hundreds of properties recently and downtown is now a ghost town. Maybe one or two bars/restaurants. Empty storefronts. I hate it.
    Ps I live about 10 minutes away and it is creepy

  • @danatate8803
    @danatate8803 Год назад +3

    Fascinating content

  • @sushanart
    @sushanart Год назад

    If children grow up in Scientology they have no options to leave until they are grown up or if the parents leave. 💖🙏🙌

  • @gleefulme9617
    @gleefulme9617 Год назад +2

    How sneaky can you get to buy properties under the name United Churches of FL!

  • @nigelcarren
    @nigelcarren Год назад +2

    Andrew, I don't want to lessen the gravity of the debate here, and I say this with an unbroken record of staunch heterosexuality, but it would be rude of me to leave without saying; your hair is fabulous! 🏆😉🇬🇧

  • @MattDenny12
    @MattDenny12 Год назад +4

    Hey Andrew, we should go together and marvel at the craziness of it all. We could visit Aaron Smith-Levin while we're there! :) Love the channel and content, thank you for doing this and opening the lid on all these facets of society.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      One day, one day! Thanks Matthew!

  • @SolaGratia.
    @SolaGratia. Год назад +1

    It's the Wise Beard Man!

  • @black_sheep_nation
    @black_sheep_nation Год назад +3

    Let's do that with DonTheCon Trump! Can we get 2,000 lawsuits filed?

  • @kookytoots6755
    @kookytoots6755 Год назад +1

    Can anyone else remember Lori? I think that was her name. Mark bunker did a few shows with her. Ex scientologist, elderly lady but so youthful. She did RUclips vids years ago but I left the rabbit hole that is Scientology for a while and forgotten what her name or the name of her channel was. Such a wonderful woman

  • @tracyevans8977
    @tracyevans8977 Год назад +3

    We need a Saint Hill watch here in the UK I am curious about that place

  • @HeroInTheSun
    @HeroInTheSun Год назад +1

    AfaIk.. no1 has been ever forced to join Scientology. I am wrong?

  • @Jillelen
    @Jillelen Год назад +6

    Love your shows. (I am hearing a lot of mouse clicking and it’s very distracting.) It just seems crazy to me that the irs and government are afraid to cut this heartbreaking slave owning practice into the past.

    • @merrywalsh2809
      @merrywalsh2809 Год назад +1

      Money talks; bs walks

    • @m5sunflower665
      @m5sunflower665 Год назад

      Yes that should be investigated because they say they had people working in there . Someone found something not right

    • @m.r.e.5731
      @m.r.e.5731 Год назад

      Blackmail.

  • @patricialeeds8532
    @patricialeeds8532 Год назад +1

    We have an International airport and a place to port a boat. They were also requirements

  • @barrycassaday6316
    @barrycassaday6316 Год назад

    Don't let them have your city. Fish,walk,jog and stroll!

  • @walker291952
    @walker291952 Год назад +3

    Mark are you going to show the video that Aaron showed two weeks ago of the motel with all the students in it that’s a fire hazard? Showing it to the downtown, Council?

  • @elliesimpson1313
    @elliesimpson1313 Год назад

    Aaron Levin Smith said the referendum finally passed. I love how Aaron Smith and Mike Rinder go to restaurants downtown.
    I'll bet Miscavage is paying off some top officials in the Federal government.

  • @tdotjazzberryram61
    @tdotjazzberryram61 Год назад +3

    Can someone explain why Mark said he doesn't want scientology shut down, just wants it taxed ?

    • @debrarobinson57
      @debrarobinson57 Год назад +2

      Scientology gets huge donations, if they were not tax - beneficial [ for the donor] donations, then the revenue would dry up.

    • @MegaasAlexandros
      @MegaasAlexandros Год назад

      He knows without taxes they wouldn't survive anyway

  • @cocobradley6013
    @cocobradley6013 Год назад +4

    Never used to like you but must say watching your own channel Im actually loving your shows and presentation,loving these Scientology shows you've had recently and never enjoyed so much shows for a while on this...great work

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +3

      Thanks coco! I’m out from under the shadow of my pal Shaun haha. He’s the best guy I know. Trained me up and everything

  • @jameswill175
    @jameswill175 Месяц назад

    It's believed the Tampa Bay area and down south was part of Atlantis. That's why you'll see spiritual groups attracted to the area, Scientology, and the Amish come to mind.

  • @reneepolin6549
    @reneepolin6549 Год назад

    It's is said
    The road tell Hell is paved with Good intentions .
    This describes a scientology in a nutshell

  • @jessicak9732
    @jessicak9732 Год назад +1

    I'm becoming increasingly curious about how much land scientology owns across the country, and Canada. In comparison, as a tax free religious buisness, the mormon church has a huge hold over land in Florida

  • @robindickman4419
    @robindickman4419 Год назад +1

    I've been to Clearwater and their org. There is really big

  • @monicaLynn7
    @monicaLynn7 Год назад +2

    Hubbard was a coward!

  • @BuffyLynn
    @BuffyLynn Год назад +1

    I must have missed this one. Mark is good people! 🥰 anything you want to know about Lisa McPhearson, he’s the guy! And the early days of “fair game”. And sorry to speak ill of the dead but Kirsty Ally was a total Nut Job when it comes to scientology🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @PugFaceMusic
    @PugFaceMusic Год назад

    Nice channel. I subbed. Let’s get to 100K! Time for a plaque!

  • @m5sunflower665
    @m5sunflower665 Год назад

    Educating Andrew Great Job

  • @KKonYouTube
    @KKonYouTube Год назад

    Why are they fighting population trend shifting away from Downtown Clear Water, rather than the Council shifting to support the other & more lively areas of Clearwater?
    What's the benefit of putting all your eggs in the Downtown basket? Put attention & support in the more popular areas & just use down town for city hall and let Scientology lose value on their properties. Wouldn't that be better for the city budget and the city residents?
    Like... adapting to residents who live there, rather than fighting the uphill battle against both Miscavige and the people's wishes??

  • @emeliabest6923
    @emeliabest6923 Год назад +2

    All religions of all sorts have always been a business unfortunately, if you pay them your part of the community if you dont your not !

  • @rebecca5303
    @rebecca5303 Год назад

    😆😂 well rounded 🤭

  • @foragegrasspause2gotoloop961
    @foragegrasspause2gotoloop961 Год назад +2

    Can someone please explain to me like I'm a child how they are able to get away with paying sea org $50/week?
    I genuinely don't get it, and feel like it's just spoken as a given that this is allowed?

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +3

      I'd be interested to know!

    • @MegaasAlexandros
      @MegaasAlexandros Год назад

      They get around it by saying that the ones working there are volunteers, volunteers as you know are not entitled to payments and they make mention of the fact that they are fed, given accommodation and shelter. Kind of like how monks are not on a wage.

  • @rong805
    @rong805 Год назад +6

    It would be cool to see a statue of Xenu in front of the headquarters. He could be riding a horse ready to kill SP's!

    • @sugarpuddin
      @sugarpuddin Год назад

      Too revealing. It is better to have a banner, a logo and a promo. All organizations learned how to do it since the dawn of Civilization. Even America. The Egyptians really worked the symbolisms for great effect!

    • @stevehyperdriver
      @stevehyperdriver Год назад

      They don’t worship Xenu. He is the bad guy

    • @rong805
      @rong805 Год назад

      @@stevehyperdriver Never said they did worship him.

  • @jimmtech
    @jimmtech Год назад +1

    Andrew, I left the Sea Org in 1982. I studied hundreds of bulletins with the title "HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
    Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex". Have you been there? Do you know where it is? Is it still a "Mecca" and headquarters for Scientology?

  • @MsAhmebah2000
    @MsAhmebah2000 Год назад

    The IRS were getting followed around and they caved to avoid losing their pensions

  • @reneepolin6549
    @reneepolin6549 Год назад

    Ranier used the mind control technique of Scientology

  • @lindaneel6570
    @lindaneel6570 8 месяцев назад

    The Scientology building I seen was in Florida. I'm wondering why you say there isn't one of color there? It's big and blue! (didn't see a human in sight, ha) It's very taken care of. So clean and pretty.

  • @joannepoole1746
    @joannepoole1746 Год назад +1

    double tax empty building in the downtown area hit them in their pockets

    • @sugarpuddin
      @sugarpuddin Год назад

      I would submit that all religions, and charities, rely heavily upon free labor and collecting money for a justifiable cause. What makes one different from another? Did not the Pope's organization have a specific policy to make the world safe for pedophiles? Does not the Catholic Church get caught behind child labor, child sales, genocide, blocking the use of condoms in African countries plagued by HIV?
      Many religions, even US Government organizations rely upon the tenants of Calvinism, (ideologies for which the Europeans founded the nation and that continue to influence government offices like the FDA). The ‘use of child labor’ is common among religious and charitable organizations. Collectively, religion is often a perilous organization that feeds off the people - People who voluntarily remain in a child-like dependency.
      For decades the Catholic Church continues - to this day - to forbid the use of condoms in HIV plagued Uganda - Saying condoms do not stop the spread of STDs and will make God (and the Pope) angry.
      Here is a scientific, peer review analysis of how the Catholic Church is playing a key role in promoting genocide and suffering in Uganda - Particularly by promoting the spread of HIV:
      www.rbmojournal.com/article/S1472-6483(11)00114-3/pdf
      The Catholic Church solution, according to the Catholic Bishop in Jinja, Uganda, is to “torture and imprison all gay people”; and, by doing so god will shower the people with blessings. It should be noted that HIV infection in Uganda is about 50/50 among men and women. The result was the passage of an Anti-homosexual bill, (Known as the Kill the Gays bill), into law.
      Obviously this is not only savage, but it is curious coming from the Catholic Church who has been fined billions of dollars for protecting 100s if not 1000s of homosexual priest pedophiles from prosecution. And protecting these predators in such a way as to maximize the damage to society, (moving them from town to town).
      wisecatholic.blogspot.com/2014/04/donald-molosi-rehearsal-star-of-david_6771.html
      In 1994, the Catholic Church promoted another African genocide - This time the deaths of 800,000 to a million people in Rwanda. Once again, the Catholic Church tried hard to hide it.
      www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/07/rwanda-genocide-20-years-priests-catholic-church
      “It's not an isolated case. After the genocide, a network of clergy and church organisations brought priests and nuns with blood on their hands in Rwanda to Europe and sheltered them. They included Father Athanase Seromba who ordered the bulldozing of his church with 2,000 Tutsis inside and had the survivors shot. Catholic monks helped him get to Italy, change his name and become a parish priest in Florence.”
      www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/08/catholic-church-apologise-failure-rwanda-genocide-vatican
      A peer reviewed empirical analysis of the Catholic Church and genocide in Rwanda can be found here: paris-malaquais.archi.fr/portes-ouvertes/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2021/02/04-R6-Bianca-Hacker_Rwanda-A4-FORMAT-Fin.pdf
      Promoting genocide is nothing new to the Catholic Church, (e.g., torture and genocide during the Catholic Crusades; and later in the New World). In 1941, the Catholic Church was integral to the extermination of at least 800,000 in Serbia. “We shall slaughter one third of the Serbs, deport another third, and force the last third into Roman Catholicism and thus make them Croats. We shall destroy every trace of theirs, and all that will be left will be a bad memory of them. For Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies we have three million bullets!”
      “According to the Synodal Commission of the Serbian Orthodox Church, 800,000 Orthodox Serbs were killed, 300,000 were expelled, and 240,000 forcibly converted to Catholicism. In our view, the actual death toll is higher than the official count. The Croats put to death 700,000 people in Jasenovac alone. Most of them were Orthodox Serbs, and the rest Jews and Gypsies.”
      orthochristian.com/114594.html
      I am not an atheist; I personally believe in an inexplicable higher power. However, I feel Abrahamic religions bring ignorance, arrest the development of character, and cause divisiveness among other hazards. When you let-go of depending upon the Church for salvation, to who will you turn? In comes Scientology to fill the bill.
      Abrahamic religions at their core appeal to our child-like nature both as individuals and as a species. It seems like a nice idea on the surface - giving us a sense of external safety and assurance. And by ‘telling us what to do’, we feel safe - No need to be self-reliant or feel directly responsible for our own actions & outcomes.
      The childlike dependence on a parent is seen in the childlike dependence of the faithful on God; or upon Scientologist to another fiction writer: L Ron Hubbard. To provide. To assure. Most importantly, to protect. This is especially true for the Abrahamic God who in many respects is modelled akin to the patriarch, the Father. The one we can run to when distressed. As individuals, we would naturally seek out our strong, commanding fathers for safety from danger. As a species, when the nights were dark and full of terrors, the gods we invented satiated that need to imagine that whoever was in charge of things would be on our side. To be our powerful, loving father that we can run to, that we can ask for safety and to vanquish our fears.
      "... Religion comes from the period of human prehistory where nobody... had the smallest idea what was going on. It comes from the bawling and fearful infancy of our species, and is a babyish attempt to meet our inescapable demand for knowledge (as well as for comfort, reassurance and other infantile needs)" - Christopher Hitchens
      When there was little or no science to explain the world, religion provided the explanations; and, made us feel safer in the middle of the night. Knowing that there was a reason behind the good and bad fortune of life gave a feeling of control - Especially among peoples who felt no control over their lives. If early humans did not feel that they had control, they might have given up when faced with adversity. According to anthropological research: the less control over their lives a people feel, the more superstitious they become!
      In short, religion, the Church and Jesus - or in this case L Ron Hubbard - become a ‘security blanket’. The harm from this is the subversion of critical thinking. People become used to accepting superstition instead of science, Government and Fauci over science, and magic instead of reason. This type of thinking makes people vulnerable to all types of charlatans.
      Knowledge, critical thinking and wisdom are incompatible with dogmatic religious ideologies. This way, religion keeps people blinded by all sorts of beliefs that are not based on any factual or experiential evidence, which does wonders to stunt their intelligence.
      To live spontaneously one has to take responsibility for oneself, and this can be quite burdensome.
      But unless we stop having an authority tell us what to do or what not to, we will never be free to live the way we deep down want to live. And unless we are free, we will never be happy and find peace with ourselves and the world. Such child-like irresponsible behavior arrests development and personal growth. In the end, we allow predators - including government - to parasitically feed off of us like energy chattel.
      “Only sheep need a shepherd.” ~Voltaire
      Is there really a fundamental difference between the Catholic Church and Scientology (Xenu)? Those disenchanted with their Church simply turn to another cult - Like Scientology!

  • @LfourK
    @LfourK Год назад

    I think if the ex cult member admits and takes responsibility for past bad actions that should be accepted and the person judged on their current behavior. Being in a cult doesn’t excuse the behavior, who the person is now makes it redundant.

  • @bertdellaluna5612
    @bertdellaluna5612 Год назад

    PETA did the same in Norfolk VA.

  • @JaneGrise
    @JaneGrise Год назад

    Should have tourist bus that takes people to see the ST facilities.

  • @nociable
    @nociable Год назад

    You won’t be seeing Kirsty Alley anymore…

  • @Tracylyn42
    @Tracylyn42 Год назад +1

    I am so so happy this passed. It’s just the Beginning!!!!!!!

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад +1

      Hope you enjoyed Tracy !

    • @sugarpuddin
      @sugarpuddin Год назад

      It would seem, despite the attempts by our boss hog masters to control it, social media is giving us a peek of how the World truly works after all!

    • @Tracylyn42
      @Tracylyn42 Год назад +1

      @@AndrewGold1 yes I love Mark and I have really been enjoying all your interviews. I feel like I know a lot of your guests now so it’s so fun to see everyone making the rounds. Keep up the good work. You pay attention to your guests and don’t interrupt them. Always asking the questions I would ask and want to know.

    • @Tracylyn42
      @Tracylyn42 Год назад +1

      @@sugarpuddin I spent all my summers when I was young at Clearwater beach but my grandparents lived in Clearwater so I am very familiar. I can’t wait to check out the new downtown when it all gets finished. It looks like it will be beautiful.

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад

      @@Tracylyn42 thanks!!

  • @markmarco2880
    @markmarco2880 Год назад

    I wonder if The Organizational Executive Course (aka: The OEC Volumes, they include the policy letter “Keeping Scientology Working”), I wonder if that stuff made it to Wikileaks, too.

  • @MsAhmebah2000
    @MsAhmebah2000 Год назад

    CoS took the lowest level govt jobs (IRS, Soc Security, FBI, CIA) just to get access to Fed govt bldgs and files

  • @heatherwhittaker6169
    @heatherwhittaker6169 Год назад +1

    Hello Andrew, would you be able to address Kirstie Alley's membership in Scientology and if it had anything to do with her death re... neglecting to seek medical advice? Thanks Heather Whittaker

    • @AndrewGold1
      @AndrewGold1  Год назад

      I did a video just as she died about Robbie Williams mentioning her. And I said that it is possible that Scientology beliefs didn’t help. But we can’t know for sure. I heard her family are donating to certain cancer charities so maybe they did really take it seriously.

  • @thraciangrapes
    @thraciangrapes Год назад +2

    Disturbing! What is the attraction: are the members well cared for? Do they fix their teeth and care for their biological needs? Are the members just looking for a place to live and a to be taken care of? Do the women join believing they might have a chance to be with Tom Cruise?

    • @sugarpuddin
      @sugarpuddin Год назад

      And THAT is the real question - A question from which we call can learn! The USA is a similar cult. Most Americans and soldiers are good people wanting to improve the world like Mike Rinder.
      However, the organization is used by their boss hogs to destroy the world. The Americans, by and large, aren't ready to honestly assess their cult masters and it's scheming.
      The jail door is open. The Americans can leave their brutal masters. However, the Americans remain in their abusive situation because, by and large, Americans are - like Scientologists - too needy and dependent. They aren’t ready for self-reliance.
      Nietzsche worried: 20th Century industrialization brought democracy, an age of slave morality
      Among Western civilization the masses clamber for anyone to lead them, who promise’s security, employment, and a cause.
      Nietzsche’s Zarathustra warns not to let it happen. That’s why at the end Zarathustra urges his disciples to go away; and to follow their own inner light. They must follow their own inner light and go their own way.
      In the process of remaining ‘civilized’ and obedient, people remain child-like and lack independence, novelty or authenticity. The people question nothing, they obey and become Energy Chattel for their masters.

    • @rosebudame
      @rosebudame Год назад +1

      Good question!

    • @debrarobinson57
      @debrarobinson57 Год назад +3

      If you watch videos from escapees, they are very far from cared for. They work 18 hour days, children are involved in heavy 'renovations' - no health & safety protections, they are seriously implicated in a number of deaths where the person needed immediate medical interventions , they are on very basic rations, & sleep in very crowded rooms, where beds are stacked 3 high, with one bathroom. The conditions on the 'flagship; are downright dangerous, with a known exposure to blue asbestos. It's almost unbelievable, but sadly true.

  • @boobob8955
    @boobob8955 Год назад

    DM used his OT powers to remote listen in on this,look you can just about see him!

  • @winstonsmith8240
    @winstonsmith8240 Год назад

    Unfortunately I've never been there, but from the pictures I've seen, why wouldn't you want to live in Clearwater?

  • @danieladeutsch1708
    @danieladeutsch1708 Год назад

    Dear Andrew, I have a question: why is Scientology buying so many properties? Is it because of the taxes? In my small European country there is one big building in my city of them too...totally empty. Thank you. XX

    • @Jaebee2626
      @Jaebee2626 Год назад

      Rumor is they are trying to create a buffer from the WOGS. Those who are not them. If you go, you will be followed and watched. Even by police. Many of the businesses and healthcare is run by them. I found out by a referral to a doctor in Clearwater downtown. I saw too much- experienced too much. Justice for Lisa and Whitney!

  • @MikeJones-iy1kw
    @MikeJones-iy1kw 7 месяцев назад

    Have a house like 1 min from downtown wad thinking about contacting them nit a good idea huh??

  • @Alexanderthegreatjones
    @Alexanderthegreatjones 3 месяца назад

    Pinellas county is the best!!

  • @reneepolin6549
    @reneepolin6549 Год назад

    $158 a day isn't that much. Hardly seems worth it

  • @SISSACATGIRL
    @SISSACATGIRL Год назад

    Aww I missed the start 😱

  • @einezcrespo2107
    @einezcrespo2107 Год назад +3

    Thank you for bringing up Kirstie Alley. I wondered what ex scientologists thought of her. Yes is an uber Trumper and off the rails ala Marjorie Tayler-Greene.

  • @monroe40206
    @monroe40206 Год назад +1

    Andrew I love you in black. You're way hotter than T.C. Happy Thanksgiving!

  • @Reindeer911
    @Reindeer911 Год назад +4

    HORRORS! Kirstie Alley is off the rails because she like TRUMP!!! */rolleyes*
    Will you people give it a rest already?

    • @sirlawrence9161
      @sirlawrence9161 Год назад

      Yeah this guy just voted for all the candidates in FL who got their asses kicked. Probably a Nikki Fried supporter.

    • @EggertOlafs
      @EggertOlafs Год назад

      She's not just a MAGA Cultist but also a hard core Q anon nutcase, completely off the rails, Greene and Boebert level retard.

  • @victoriamorris3773
    @victoriamorris3773 Год назад +1

    Put Aaron Levin in there to help back you up

  • @charismacraft8050
    @charismacraft8050 Год назад

    You made everyone scared at the Beginn….sorry …but it’s important to show people they are secured that’s the way you should write your own book of the town…tell them to place their own sentences and create your town book …..😢😅