New Trick: Diana Insta Ulti Combo!!!

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @professorrimek8870
    @professorrimek8870 10 лет назад +23

    Okay, just to inform everyone about this combo. This combo is 100% still able to be done. I played a few customs earlier today, purely practicing it. Although I just "picked up" Diana last week, I was able to successfully do the combo about 7 times. That's pretty good I would like to think. I think the main reason that a lot of people aren't able to pull it off is because they don't really know what they are doing. Such as not knowing when to q after pressing r, or when to flick your wrist. Not saying that What the Moose did a bad job explaining, this is actually the best guide I could find about how to do it. Every other thing I found about it in reality just showed me what it looks like. If this comment gets a fair amount of likes, I will post an in-depth tutorial on how to do it. It will be my first video so any feedback would be much appreciated! :D

    • @DomagojSavordh
      @DomagojSavordh 9 лет назад

      +Professor Rimek so where's your video?

  • @xWhatTheMoosex
    @xWhatTheMoosex  11 лет назад +28

    Ok, so there seems to be a lot of confusion with the "mouse flick".
    What I mean by this is simply "moving your mouse forward a tiny bit" or a "gentle push on your mouse" in order to move your cursor forward a few millimetres.
    The reason for doing this is due to the fact that the Q is a curved skillshot and you need to ensure that it lands where you want it before your Ulti hits.
    I will try and get a video out showing my cursor movement and perhaps a camera of my hand and mouse. I am pretty busy at the moment with preparations for my dissertation and placements at Uni. I will do my best guys!

    • @rv6950
      @rv6950 11 лет назад +9

      Hi, so if i got it, what you did step by step was:
      -enabling smartcast
      -press R
      -move your mouse a bit forward
      -press Q
      ?
      Because I keep doing this and i still can't do it :(

    • @JihoonJKim
      @JihoonJKim 11 лет назад +1

      rv6950
      Yes, the idea is to shoot your Q before your R lands. The flick is important because if you don't flick, the Q will land behind the target, and thus missing and not giving you the reset.
      It's like shooting a Crescendo while being pulled by Blitzcrank. You can shoot some projectiles while being moved.

    • @dcl5319
      @dcl5319 11 лет назад +1

      by forward, you mean behind or in front of the original target.
      And do you Q immediately after you R, or more or less right before you land on them.

    • @JihoonJKim
      @JihoonJKim 11 лет назад +1

      Q after R. The idea is to just Q before your land on them. So, aim the Q right in front of your character (basically).
      mess around with it in custom on minions. GL brah

    • @eric280197
      @eric280197 11 лет назад +1

      Jacob Kim I did it one time by training for 20 min :( I don't know why it's not working my Q hit but my R goes on CD

  • @aSecretfulSecret
    @aSecretfulSecret 11 лет назад

    This is one of the most useful tips I have heard about a champion! More please!

  • @ObsidianValkyrie
    @ObsidianValkyrie 11 лет назад

    For clarification, make sure both R and Q are on smartcast.
    The 'flick' refers to making sure your cursor is slightly ahead of the target.
    Also note that you have to do all of these steps AT THE SAME TIME for this to work.

  • @BlockhedRS
    @BlockhedRS 11 лет назад +1

    this is like fizz's q>ult combo. most people use ult before using q, but you can actually use ult whilst in mid-air after using q.

  • @ProonHub
    @ProonHub 11 лет назад

    The reason this trick works is because of a few factors dianas q speed moves just as fast as her r, you can do this trick backwards to understand the mechanic. If you push q and r almost at the same time since Q was cast first R catches up and there is no cooldown, the reason his trick works in reverse is due to the fact he flicks up to compensate for them moving, if they are standing still mouse flick is not required.

  • @danielkim1450
    @danielkim1450 10 лет назад +1

    Not a lot of people know that REAL secret to this combo.
    You must be at max range for your ultimate to pull off this combo.
    Reason is because the closer you are to your target with your Ultimate, the faster you will end up reaching your target, which means less time for your Q to travel and hit the opponent.
    1. Stay at max range of your target
    2. Ult on top of him, and quickly Q around your target

  • @bbc4dub
    @bbc4dub 11 лет назад

    Quickcast is essential in this combo, so if you don't use quick cast you can't do it. He also says in the video flick your mouse in front of your original mouse location, meaning R (with quick cast) then quickly move your mouse slightly ahead of your target and Q almost immediately after R, but not at the same time. Hope this helped.

  • @Shawns_snapshots
    @Shawns_snapshots 11 лет назад

    Hey moose, do you notice that red border, it can be fized by unbinding/rebinding either your fraps key away from F9 or unbinding/rebinding the hotkey "unlock window" which is bound to F9 by default.

  • @desepture2492
    @desepture2492 9 лет назад +6

    Mind if you remade the video, but showing ur cursor?

  • @brestmoor
    @brestmoor 11 лет назад

    one of the most useful tips i found on youtube

  • @Trostspender
    @Trostspender 11 лет назад

    Mmmh... I'm not a Diana player, but I just found out that you can QR. Your R will still refresh even when Q is still on its way.
    So if you're sure that your Q is going to hit, you can hit R immediately for style points.
    I've now managed to do the trick in the video a few times, but it doesn't seem to work at all ranges and not from all directions. Not sure if this is really not useful or if I'm just bad.

  • @willyumofearth
    @willyumofearth 9 лет назад +4

    I JUST DID THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN GAME AND IT FEELS AMAZING OMFG

  • @ianulman2935
    @ianulman2935 11 лет назад +3

    Perhaps record in a way that shows your cursor? Because right now we have no idea what a "mouse flick" means.

  • @andrewshirley9240
    @andrewshirley9240 11 лет назад

    The only thing I can think of that would make the old method better is the same reason you'd do it on akali- Throw out your mark and hang back a bit so that you don't take heavy fire. Then when your Q is (almost) back off cooldown, ult in, Q again, ult again, ult again. Only issue with this is the fact that you need to somehow stall for 2-3 seconds before charging in without letting them get away.

  • @fernandosa7948
    @fernandosa7948 11 лет назад +4

    Guys so...I had some hard time trying to do this but I was able to perform it after 20 minutes of trying.
    A detailed explanation:
    I use smartcast so:
    Cast R on enemy champion by simply puting your mouse on him (you will want to first try this on far away targets);
    After casting R, immediately move your mouse a bit forward (like, if the enemy champ is facing you, move your mouse so that it will move behind your enemy) and insta cast Q.
    The first times will be hard but you will be able to do it with some work.
    The reason why you cant R and Q with the same mouse position its because he will perform another order for that position only after the first is done.

    • @Muanh
      @Muanh 11 лет назад

      Could you please tell me the timing you are using? Got it to work myself a few times but not consistently. The times I managed to get it I almost used the two skills together.

    • @rv6950
      @rv6950 11 лет назад

      And i'd like to ask you what's your ping too.

    • @fernandosa7948
      @fernandosa7948 11 лет назад

      Muanh Indeed.....it really needs to be like you press both keys together....I am being able to do it better over and over. My ping is 66

    • @Muanh
      @Muanh 11 лет назад

      Fernando Sá So you actually just move your mouse during the whole process?

    • @bardockecool
      @bardockecool 11 лет назад

      You dont have to click your mouse? just move it?

  • @ImanolSanturtun
    @ImanolSanturtun 10 лет назад

    For people with Latency (ping/that bar that fills yellow under your creepscore in-game) above 100, it will be it insanely difficult to perform. You need to do the R>Mouse Flick>Q in literally around 0.1 seconds, and the response delay from your location to the server will delay the reaction. At least I couldn't do it when my latency was 160 because of a storm.

  • @nikolai1239
    @nikolai1239 11 лет назад

    At work so dont have a chance to try it..but it sounds like you ult them, and right after you do cast your q slightly behind them. the "flick" is just moving your mouse past your target quickly so you can Q.

  • @zkylon
    @zkylon 11 лет назад

    thanks for this, always wondered how the pros pulled it so fast

  • @zwex115
    @zwex115 10 лет назад +1

    GUYS I HAVE IT, so you basically have to press r when they are out of range!!!
    and when your champ starts walking towards them it way easier to time the q, and i think its only possible from the max range of the ult and you can only get that by usin this tequince

    • @zuperzaro
      @zuperzaro 9 лет назад +1

      takose bullshiit ur not fast enough no range needed

  • @spikyrammus6578
    @spikyrammus6578 11 лет назад

    Nope, right at the moment, we have dozens of skills which are able to be combined with Flash and/or other skills/summoner spells. Some examples are Lee Sin's ultimate (Cast R, insta flash behind the enemy, kick him in the way you came from) or Fizz's Playful/Trickster (Cast E, use Flash before you jump down). Having this Spell combo actually gives Diana way more depth.

  • @iCro63
    @iCro63 11 лет назад +3

    can u do it again? in slow motion and with a visible mouse?

  • @aLviNSmurfy
    @aLviNSmurfy 11 лет назад +1

    it actually is YOU Q first then insta R to your target then it will work, the ult will reset. If you try R > Q, it won't work. Can have a try (:

  • @carloslavin3900
    @carloslavin3900 9 лет назад

    The mouse flick was what i was missing thanks man

  • @TisAlexOmg
    @TisAlexOmg 11 лет назад

    You should upload more often ^^ your guides are really good

  • @CSDragon
    @CSDragon 11 лет назад +2

    Does this still work? I've been trying in practice mode for a good 10 minutes and haven't gotten it once. No matter how early I spam Q, the CD won't reset

    • @michaelwebb692
      @michaelwebb692 11 лет назад +1

      yes it still works I've been practicing recently and have gotten fairly consistent with it on stationary targets at max range. You have to hit the buttons basically at the same time and also be sure to do the mouse flick correctly. You just have to move your mouse immediately after you hit the buttons but only a tiny bit, if you go to far, your q will take too long to hit the target. The goal is basically to keep the "aim" of your q the same (right on top of the target enemy) but have the cursor move a tiny bit because of a weird hiccup in the game logic.

  • @PFCKutzner
    @PFCKutzner 9 лет назад +1

    I can't find this anywhere: Flick the mouse forward in relation to what? Behind your opponent? Forward from yourself? NSEW? XY? Right, Left, Up, Down? Since its a targeted ability you mean that your mouse starts on your opponent so then you aim somewhere away from them? What is the point of the 'mouse flick'? Isn't Diana's Q end up on the Mouse point anyway? Why wouldn't you just aim right at them? After reading the comments about how hard this is I am not going to even try it until someone clarifies this. Are you saying that since her shot starts on the right of her you need to flick your mouse to the left so the start of the shot hits them?

  • @tehchase1313
    @tehchase1313 11 лет назад

    MOOSE, I KNEW U COULD DO IT, MUCH LOVE

  • @yanyameliev3707
    @yanyameliev3707 9 лет назад +1

    STILL works did it 3 times out of 50 vs bots, but its so hard dunno how i did it and why cant i always do it

  • @druidimos
    @druidimos 11 лет назад

    Hey 'What The Moose', great tip ! But i'm having a really hard time pulling this off, i'm able to Q and R at the same time, but I can't pull off the RQ like you do, would it be possible you upload some footage from your point of view, where we see your mouse action and everything instead of having a spectator point of view ?? Thanks !! Continue the great work!

  • @Pnoexz
    @Pnoexz 11 лет назад

    If the tip requires you to move the mouse in a certain way, please record the cursor as well.

  • @RenZoneNL
    @RenZoneNL 11 лет назад

    wow, didn't know you could cast while dashing! time to polish my season 4 diana jungle!

  • @phongngm
    @phongngm 11 лет назад

    damn nice info. i knew you could q and ult immediately and reset your ult-cd, because q has more travel time. but not like this.
    does this technique also mean that you kinda increase the Q range?

  • @Trostspender
    @Trostspender 11 лет назад

    He is using Q during his R animation. I'm using R during the Q animation. That's the difference.
    I'd be interested if WtM can pull off this consistently, because I couldn't do it.

  • @kenguan2983
    @kenguan2983 11 лет назад

    Can you be more detailed on this technique? Many people is confused about how it's done and what "flick" actually means.

  • @gagebe
    @gagebe 10 лет назад

    This technique seems to be hot-fixed as of today, but you can QR at the same time to get the reset, except it's not just as good to catch running enemies unfortunately, but it's good for some quick poke and then ult back onto minions when in lane.
    If this isn't hotfixed I guess I just can't do it, tried for 5 hours earlier today. (It seems to be hotfixed at least)

    • @ohsh02
      @ohsh02 10 лет назад

      it still works press it at same time and ur ult need to be in max range

  • @bencloots
    @bencloots 11 лет назад

    can you show in another video an more explained guide from your perspective? cause for some reason,if i do it, the r cd is still on cd but the target has got the q on him

  • @babler11
    @babler11 11 лет назад

    I've found it's easier to just use your ultimate when you are positive your Q will land sort of like jarvan drops his flag down the instant he Q's to it or Lux's full combo. Trying to do it like shown in the video hurts my hand and I was only able to do it once after an hour of practice and i'm not even sure I casted it mid flight. The difference would be milliseconds and it's infinitely harder to land without screwing up than my method.

  • @Mad1Friend
    @Mad1Friend 11 лет назад +1

    This is awesome, i got accused of hacking in ranked doing it so that's a green light that this is a great tip.

  • @Barnmeny
    @Barnmeny 11 лет назад

    Well the point is that you gain more dps and time on using R first then Q right before you hit your target with R

  • @Snowiowlplayes
    @Snowiowlplayes 11 лет назад

    Flick is a schort movement in the direction were your enemy is moving - i think
    would have been nice to see the mouse in the video tho :)

  • @Gianpor
    @Gianpor 11 лет назад

    This probably has to do a lot with ping as well, there was no way in hell I could do it with 150ms+ as I always play with, so it's hard for me to know if I'm doing something wrong or if it's just my latency.

  • @Zedaraa
    @Zedaraa 9 лет назад +1

    i was trying this today for like 30+ minutes and didnt made it single time,is this still working?

    • @dark3031
      @dark3031 9 лет назад

      Zedara It still works, but I got it like 2 out of 50 trials, with my 80 ms ping.

  • @baiqiaoz3327
    @baiqiaoz3327 10 лет назад

    Iwould really like to know the cursor position, at what point you press Q in Diana's animation. Can you consistently do this? :/

  • @SkyFoxZero
    @SkyFoxZero 11 лет назад

    This still works, I did this yesterday once in a custom game

  • @iruleatants
    @iruleatants 11 лет назад

    That what this entire video is about...... He uses his ult first, then he hits with his q right before his r lands. Thus getting the refresh from the buff.

  • @WTBliiip
    @WTBliiip 11 лет назад +1

    What happens if your target is slain by the q spell?

  • @pokelegend687
    @pokelegend687 10 лет назад

    What the moose, since you play so much Quinn top, can you please please do a video guide to kiting for example, different key bindings that will help adc kiting like "A clicking" or "shift-A clicking" and how kiting is essential in low elos pls pls pls.

  • @TheZorkas
    @TheZorkas 11 лет назад

    i don't really get what you're trying to explain.
    how much do you "flick" your mouse? when you say "after ulting" do you mean after casting the ult or after the animation has ended?

  • @snipercatart5164
    @snipercatart5164 11 лет назад

    nice video, the timing is same as w->q alistar combo?

  • @FatalisAraneas
    @FatalisAraneas 11 лет назад

    The way i have gotten it every time i hit Q just like a milisecond b4 R and when u do that it glitches the Q making it so its right infront of u the whole length of the R so u cant miss i have known this trick for awhile now and thats how i have always done it

  • @lm6036
    @lm6036 9 лет назад

    Guys for all of ya that think it's impossible to do it I'm s5. It still is! As a Diana main I wanted to be able to use this whenever I need to so I tried it. In 30 min of custom games I did it only twice. Now 2 months later playing Diana frequently I can do it on command almost every time :)

  • @4lex355
    @4lex355 11 лет назад

    dude , best tip ever for diana ty, i will try to do it.

  • @TheSinexCN
    @TheSinexCN 9 лет назад

    Yeah, I definitely agree with you that it'd be a good idea to release another video clarifying what, precisely, you meant when you say that the player must "flick" their mouse -- because the video doesn't make a great deal of sense in its current incarnation. ;)

  • @eskileskil4124
    @eskileskil4124 11 лет назад

    Yay you brought back diana :D

  • @shockbladez7079
    @shockbladez7079 11 лет назад

    I have tried to do this heaps of times and i only managed to do it twice. Can you explain it in more detail?

  • @Quelind
    @Quelind 10 лет назад +1

    Does it still work patch 4.21?

  • @LostVisage
    @LostVisage 11 лет назад

    Never played Diana, but good to know!

  • @MaxJ345
    @MaxJ345 11 лет назад

    I've tried this out (recently bought Diana) and I've had some success. Please correct me if I'm wrong (I'm here to learn as well):
    You press Q and R at the same time.
    I'm assuming if the target dies to the Q, then R won't get the refresh.
    Are there any other tips on successfully landing this? Or any nuances I should know about (ex. what happens if you're in range for Q but out of range for R)?

  • @chlorinekid01
    @chlorinekid01 11 лет назад

    I literally cannot get this down. Can you explain the timing and how I should cast R into Q?

  • @miguelmarmolejo5857
    @miguelmarmolejo5857 9 лет назад

    What about the damage and ult reset? Isn't her combo QRQR or QRRQ

  • @zxqwerxz
    @zxqwerxz 11 лет назад

    only pulled it off 3 times, not sure what I did or didn't do in those cases either

  • @danpandanpandan
    @danpandanpandan 10 лет назад +2

    can you do that with 50 ms ping? What's the maximum lag you can have?

    • @zuperzaro
      @zuperzaro 9 лет назад

      Dany Tremila hhahahhahahaahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahaha omgggg hahahha really funny
      get real internet kid get off fomr mac wifi

    • @danpandanpandan
      @danpandanpandan 9 лет назад +11

      Man, calm down o.O you look very frustated

    • @TriNguyen-xi8ji
      @TriNguyen-xi8ji 8 лет назад

      +Dany Tremila I know it a little bit too late but I can't perform it with 15ms.

  • @Kuukeksi
    @Kuukeksi 11 лет назад

    It's WhatTheMoose here, and today...

  • @TheArmOS
    @TheArmOS 11 лет назад

    Diana ult looks so derpy in slow mo

  • @KorinDing
    @KorinDing 8 лет назад

    does quick cast affect this? I personally play with quick cast but I'm not sure if that hinders this?

  • @AbyssArray
    @AbyssArray 11 лет назад

    Hmm.. I can get it off sometimes, I kinda tried it like how I imagined Alistar's Headbutt-Pulverize I mashed RQ at the same time..

  • @Streamlines
    @Streamlines 11 лет назад

    Geez, the sound at the beginning of this video sounds like a dying clutch of an old car lol

  • @viviankeating7327
    @viviankeating7327 11 лет назад +1

    Does this still work? Can you do it with 80 ping?

  • @orcsinmonks8946
    @orcsinmonks8946 10 лет назад

    Yo moose You entering NULE ? Awesome having you here man..

  • @powerforu94
    @powerforu94 11 лет назад

    best intro EU

  • @IVIorgz
    @IVIorgz 11 лет назад

    I suppose I would need smart cast for this?

  • @RF1T2
    @RF1T2 10 лет назад

    u should make a new video that covers more details; you can get more informations about this combo via reading the comments of this video

  • @Trostspender
    @Trostspender 11 лет назад

    I can't do it. I tried to RQ immediately, but R always goes on full cd.

  • @bodoschulte5271
    @bodoschulte5271 9 лет назад

    doesnt work for me, but the ult seems to be faster than in the video, is that possible?

  • @davidnathan94
    @davidnathan94 10 лет назад

    I enjoyed the video. Ill definitely use it.

  • @mike850071064
    @mike850071064 11 лет назад +1

    Please do this with your mouse cursor. not replay mode.

  • @wls8035
    @wls8035 11 лет назад

    cant do it even if i set my skills on quickcast, has this already been patched?

  • @MrOnionRing
    @MrOnionRing 11 лет назад

    what do you mean by flick your mouse forward?

  • @heinewinthereig7300
    @heinewinthereig7300 11 лет назад

    I press R and then instantly Q after with doing the flick, and I can't get it to work

  • @jonabeyt
    @jonabeyt 11 лет назад

    any chance they hotfixed this? I've been trying to do it for 30 minutes in a custom game. It looks exactly like what hes doing in the video but the cd isn't being reset :

  • @buklau8459
    @buklau8459 11 лет назад

    do you q right after u ulti like instantly or do you wait?

  • @VenTTuRoN
    @VenTTuRoN 9 лет назад

    That could working on kayboard makro?

  • @ryu.hayebusa
    @ryu.hayebusa 11 лет назад

    Have you met daigo before?

  • @VSasseville9
    @VSasseville9 11 лет назад

    I confirme this work just tryed it in custom, but hard to do i got it twice in 15 min non-stop trying. I think the mouse flick thing is very very important, The Q needs to hit the target instantly , while on his way (where he has a tiner hitbox) and not when it explodes on landing

    • @VSasseville9
      @VSasseville9 11 лет назад +1

      Actually i cant seem to make it worth more than something like 5% of the time, do you have more details on how to make it work constantly?

  • @dragendes
    @dragendes 11 лет назад

    after 30min training it worked but the i only got it if i cast r out of range (chars runs to the target) and time the q perfect
    realyyyy hard
    sry for bad english :P

  • @YaegolClothes
    @YaegolClothes 11 лет назад

    Another easy way to do this, is to hold Shift and press RQ in a sequence.

    • @lilmondo96
      @lilmondo96 11 лет назад

      what is this suppose to do at all by pressing shift?

    • @YaegolClothes
      @YaegolClothes 11 лет назад

      Armando Casarez shift makes it smartcast so you can just hover your mouse over where you want and it will instantly activate the skill when pressed on the QWER key

  • @Xhandel
    @Xhandel 11 лет назад

    i want to know if this still works, i tried so much but i cant make it work

  • @Mejarahaun
    @Mejarahaun 11 лет назад +2

    I manged to pull it off 2 times, out of 20 . this means 10% of my efforts. in order to be able to use in competitive play i need a percentage of at least 90%, so i beg of you, to make another video with more details please :"( !!! I would greatly appreciate it.

  • @davidwalker8472
    @davidwalker8472 10 лет назад

    What does he say at the beginning of the video?

  • @SuperTikil
    @SuperTikil 11 лет назад

    will be great for diana junglers when they are ganking after lvl6

  • @Witainar
    @Witainar 10 лет назад

    OH MY GOSH THIS IS SO PERFECT, MAN, YOU ARE SO AWESOME, THANK VERY VERY VERY MUCH, My Diana nerver be the same. \o

  • @iLaskii
    @iLaskii 11 лет назад

    how far do you flick ur mouse? im trying so hard but i just get it right like 1/10 times

  • @DaishogunShiEnJP
    @DaishogunShiEnJP 11 лет назад

    Flick = rapidly move your mouse cursor to the direction of your target

  • @lilmondo96
    @lilmondo96 11 лет назад

    i just went jungle right now in bots and landed this twice on white, it seems still possible but its hella hard...any tips?

    • @crmzntears
      @crmzntears 10 лет назад

      try pressing q and r at the exact same time

  • @idioticfreek
    @idioticfreek 10 лет назад

    does anyone know if this still works?

  • @MrYsosad
    @MrYsosad 11 лет назад

    It works for me if I press Q and R at the same time.

  • @MTaleTV
    @MTaleTV 11 лет назад

    works for me sometimes, sometimes it don`t can`t wait for version 2.0 to see what i`m doing wrong hehe

  • @x3Dinosaures
    @x3Dinosaures 10 лет назад

    Does this combo still work!?

  • @modestas62
    @modestas62 11 лет назад

    I main Diana and I know about this trick, theres another one too. But at the end I don't think it was made to do this imb4 this gets nerfed