Just sent in my standard 7.62x39 upper back to BCA due to inconsistent feed and ejection issues even with enhanced firing pin with both steel and brass. I hope the issue can be fixed. I really like the platform.
I burned out a BCA 7.62x39 16" barrel with roughly 6k rounds through it over four years, I learned a few lessons with the build. The replacement barrel had AK/bushmaster 7.62 style feed ramps which was a huge upgrade for feeding and not deforming soft points. 1. enhanced firing pin is a MUST, you don't need extra power hammer springs. Black rifle arms makes the best one 2. Your extractor WILL break within 1500-2500rds. It's the nature of the bolt face geometry. I have used a Colt gold extractor spring with insert and no oring and have had no issues after 3k rounds, wish me luck. I've heard black rifle arms makes the best extractor as well. 3. Adjustable gas blocks really reduce parts wear and recoil. Highly recommend upgrade. I have one suggestion for a serious upgrade, PLEASE make midlength gas system barrels! The parts wear/breakage will be significantly reduced!
Yes, please on the mid length. Or even rifle with an 18" barrel. I choked my gas port down to almost nothing and it was still locking open with steel case.
@@randomidiot8142 I had the same experience, try an A2 or VLTOR A5 buffer setup. You can run an H2 carbine/VLTOR or A2 rifle buffer even with the gas turned all the way down with roughly 30% less recoil.
@@SuspiciousGanymede I tried something similar with my 18" mid 7.62*39 and even with just enough gas to lock back I was getting really bad brass case rim scars from the extractor when I was running a light (empty) buffer. My 10" has a 7 oz buffer (heavier than heavy), standard spring and tuned gas, and it runs really smooth. I'll be going heavy to save brass rims from now on.
I am super excited! I just purchased a 20 inch right side charging handle, full complete A.R. 15 rifle chambered and 5.56. The only thing I have to say that’s negative up to this point is when I purchased it directly from Bear Creek Arsenal is that it does not come with a magazine. Other than that so far, this will be my very first Bear Creek Arsenal.
Nothing but respect. You guys owned up to some of the first gen. upper issues and explained the issues you were having, and from what I've heard, fixed people's extractors and firing pins, etc. Now THATS transparency and great customer service. I just bought a gen 2 16" 7.62 upper and cannot wait to start my build! Thanks BCA!
I love this company’s transparency and customer service. I’ve got their grendel upper and I run steel case through it with no issues so far. Now that they’ve upgraded the 7.62 I just bought me a pistol upper. If you’re on the fence, I can confirm that if for any reason you experience an issue, they WILL take of it in the customer service department. They also don’t charge a shit ton so that’s awesome too.
I wish you were right, I have pistol and rifle ak uppers! Both have same problem, I sent the pistol back to get fixed, and still doesn't fire bout 1/3 of the rounds!! I have purchased 9 uppers from them and have sent numerous people there wY but won't buy anymore from them if I have to purchase parts for something they got in a hurry to sell, but doesn't actually work!! Thell lose my business over like 20 dollars
i bought one and my buddy did also.. i changed the pin and hammer spring before i even shot it once (thanks 704 tactical). Went to range Saturday and mine ran 200 rounds of Wolf and 40 rounds of monarch without a hiccup. He would have a lite primer strike every once in a while. Needless to say he is changing those parts out. Rifle was a blast to shoot!
I loving my new BCA complete 7.62x39 upper. Break in time was easy and the rifle is a lazer beam at 200 yards. The craftsmanship is beautiful! God bless BCA
I built an AR47 using a BCA side charger , but I got a left handed upper (I'm a right handed shooter). Holy COW! I love it. The ejection pattern works well for a right handed user, I did replace the firing pin and hammer spring and it just works like a monster! It has quickly become one of my favorites and my friends always want to try it out.
i'm on my 1st year owning and shooting a BCA 7.62x39. the only thing i have done different is stop using the steel case in favor of the Belom brass case. i do love that ammo. accuracy greatly improved velocity is more consistent. i don't spray and pray nothing. BCA rocks!
Just received my 7.62 upper. Great price and came with the enhanced firing pin. Looks great and can't wait to get it to the range. My 556 BCA upper shoots great, so I am expecting great things.
Hey man, I wanted to thank you for the correction of my order, and the swag. I really appreciate you making it right and the fact that you PERSONALLY called me, made me very happy. Was even happier when my side charger 7.62 worked great. Thanks again, I appreciate the call, it meant a lot to me as a customer
Loved my BCA x39 upper. Once I got the enhanced firing pin and took my dremel out and polished the feed ramps for SP. Then it was all good. Larue trigger doesn't hurt either.
Happy you guys are improving and listening to customers. The 7.62x39 AR is getting super popular nowadays and I hope you guys keep it up at the top of yalls list! Thx #bcaftw
These were my only complaints about the 7.62 uppers as I just broke and extractor and had to upgrade my pin. Great to see they're listening and improving. The pin was cheap ($11) and they replaced my extractor super fast under warranty.
Actually the Steel does expand enough to seal the chamber, or you would see black all over the casing from gas blow pass. Been building arx39 since 1982
Bought a bca 7.62 upper, but sold it to purchase a zavasta. Will say , great upper and good to know your swapping out the firing pin.. Would be good to have different hand rails to choose from , would make sales rocket I'm sure. Good company...
My son bought me a 3 in 1 scope from UUQ. 4x-16x scope with red dot reticle on top. Also a green laser on the right and a flashlight on the left of the scope. I love that gun. Thanks Bear Creek Arsenal.
I bought my BCA 7.62x39 about 3 years ago. Should I go ahead and order another extractor to have in case it goes out. I am very impressed with your customer service. I live in GA and just called your customer service when I was having trouble with the gun not shooting the russian hard berdan primer. I was told I needed an enhanced firing pin and a stronger trigger spring. I order them and installed them easily and shoots great. I am a loyal BCA customer. Made in America baby.
The firing pin is a nice touch because I have to put the enhanced pin in all my rifles in that caliber in the past. Another reliability upgrade is to switch over to the five coil extractor spring from sprinco, that extra pressure really helps with reliability for these rifles when running suppressed.
Extremely satisfied with BCA 762x39 uppers! Runs perfect right out of the box with steel and brass ammo! Shipping is always quick and product comes professional wrapped with care. Will continue to order and my safes will be full of BCA products! Keep it up BCA , you guys rock!
I just received my first AR 15 complete rifle from BCA for father's day and can't wait to do some shooting 😎 and great customer service guys I appreciate y'all!
LMT makes a 7.62x39 bolt. That seems like the best option. Still, bear creek is doing a hell of a job. I think this is a very smart move for them, financially. They are filling a very niche roll that not too many companies mess with. And I keep seeing more and more people wanting an AR chambered in 7.62x39. It's a smart decision honestly. You'll have a gun that has almost complete parts compatibility and can fire the 7.62x39. Shit... That's what the acr was made for.
Depending on what you're using for a fire control group sometimes it takes more than a enhanced firing pin. Especially, when you're using a drop in trigger. You can bend the forks out on a standard hammer spring and get the extra energy you need to detonate the round. You can also bend the hammer spring on a drop in trigger too if you can take it apart. Another trick, you can sand the tail of the bolt to get more firing pin protrusion(.041), that's usually the last thing I try and it always works.
I bought an upper awhile back, all light primer strikes. Replaced with their newer bolt and enhanced firing pin, nothing. Replaced hammer spring with Wolf extra power, about 50/50 light strikes no matter what kind of Soviet ammo. Installed an h2 buffer and red Sprinco buffer spring, no change.. Bought a whole different upper from BCA and put all my innards in it (to keep it scientific), works great. That means the first upper was out of spec in the chamber causing the round to sit too far forward, preventing the pin from reaching the primer enough much of the time... Doesn't take much. Wonder if they'll let me return or replace the out of spec upper?
I have several BCA uppers including 2 in 7.62X39. After a few rounds on an upgraded bolt it had to be returned for replacement. No problems with the other, both have the upgrades. No problems with any other BCA uppers either. I wish BCA would sell the bolt indepently or at least get the 7.62 BCG back in stock. I like spare parts for everything! With one failure it is more important to me to have a spare bolt or BCG. I'm happy to pay for spare parts as the warranty turn around was fast with the exception of sending it to and receiving from BCA.
I got 2 of your 7.62x39 uppers 2 weeks ago and i just called this morning about a broke extractor hopefully i get the new modified ones. By far the best uppers for the money and customer service wow spot on definitely a bca fan glad you all are trying to make the uppers even better
Another thing, brass cools faster than steel. You will need to increase the lock time with a H3 buffer to give the casing enough time to cool down so it will extract easily. This is the number one problem I have seen with extraction issues.
My goodness..took my new 10.5 7.62x39 bca upper out today with a lower for different gun..had 2 light primer strikes in about 200 rounds. I was so fuckin happy..can't imagine when I get a dedicated lower for it
My 5.56 bear creek uppers love steel case ammo. Infact often times brass gets stuck in the chamber more often than steel. You might wear your extractor out but that's what $15? You pay for that when you buy 2 boxes of ammo
Just built my 1st 5.56 ar15 using your upper love it . Going to be building a 7.62 x 39 and a ar10 real soon. Thank you for having great product great prices and built here in merica 👍👍
Hey BCA team! Got my gen 2, 7.62 upper a month ago and finally took it out to the range yesterday. I shot ~40 rounds of Tula through it, before I had a stuck casing in the barrel, and the extractor broke. I'm currently waiting for a response from the warranty team, but I'm curious to see if anyone else is having issues with gen 2's? I bought it specifically to deal with steel cased ammo. I'm hoping to get this issue sorted out soon. Thanks, -Lance
@@ultimatefighter225 Update: Took about 2.5 weeks or so by the time I shipped it off to when I received it. BCA cleaned/lubed the gun, and replaced extractor -all expenses paid on them. They were quick and friendly, so I can say that I had a really good customer service experience. I've put roughly 120 steel cased rounds (Tul Ammo, 122 grain) from 2 range trips and so far the extractor has held up.
I just bought one, got it a few days ago, I believe it was said that it was supposed to come with enhanced, but I bought a enhanced firing pin and hammer spring anyways. It did not appear that my upper came enhanced
I too appreciate the gen2 improvements and just got a shipping notice on my 10.5" x39 upper only 1 day after ordering. Planning on using it with cpd 20rd mag, trs25 as an easy to carry ranch gun. We get some pretty foul, bad-tempered rabbits with big pointy teeth.
Listen fellas. Ive built many AR-47s. What yall need to do is start shipping out the BCG's with standard milspec .223 extractors that have not been modified like the bolt face. The standard .223 extractors work flawlessly with 7.62. its the very first modification i make on all my 47 bolts. God bless. I hope you listen to my advice and implement the upgrade.
I have a Bear Creek Arsenal ar15 in 7.62x39. I had to replace the firing pin to an enhanced firing pin. Also replaced the trigger spring with a stronger trigger spring. Now it shoots that Russian ammo great.
I use mine for deer hunting. I only use small capacity mags. I also use it for summer damage tags for deer damaging our crops. Cheap soft point ammo crushes deer. I got an extended firing pin and bcg from fail zero (sorry). But it works great.
I bought a complete upper from BCA in December and it was flawless once I installed an enhanced firing pin. Bought a BCA 7.62 BCG for another build that I did with a KAK 4.75 inch barrel a couple of months ago. It needed the enhanced pin also to run steel ammo. Both of them run perfectly. Recommended to BCA in December and questioned why they didn't build them with an enhanced pin to begin with. Was told that some in BCA had suggested it but it was always tabled. Glad you all changed your position. Your stuff should run golden now. Good job!
@@Bloodreign137 Thanks for asking. Real world experience. Based on my flawless experience with my first BCA 7.62x39 BCG, I went with it on this build. Actually, the only issue I had was with the barrel. First one caused the BCG to jam while charging. KAK sent me a replacement and it was fine. Runs great. Fun pistol.
lol I was shooting for the first time from my bear creek arsenal 7.62x39 gen 2 Last weekend man brilliant upper i used all brands of 7.62x39 ammo about 400 rounds i didn't have a single jam when I was shooting not even one i replaced the enhanced firing pin and trigger spring good job bear creek arsenal 👍👍
I run mine somewhat "wet" with an enhanced firing pin, STOCK hammer spring, and C Defence Products magazines...eats Wolf, Barnaul, and anything else I feed them all day long
Wow, you make the steel cases sound like INFIDELS! ;) I'm glad you've worked through your problems and are building fully capable weapons to fire the steel cased 7.62s now. I may have to grab your upper to throw on my BCA 5.56 AR.
It would be nice if you guys would go back to the older enhanced firing pins. I have one from about 5 or 6 yes ago still going strong. I had some of your latest in a current build and one of them broke first time at the range. I’ve also noticed your latest uppers do not fit up as tight to different lowers as they used too. I know supply issues and increased demand could play a part but wanted to throw that out there. Thank you
I was at a gunshot last week. I had and old SKS that had broken a firing pin, so I bought a new firing pin. I have a couple SKS so decided to sell that one. On my way out I passed a guy’s booth that was selling Bear Creek Arsenal Uppers. He had a 7.62x39 for a real good price, so I bought it and an Anderson Manufacturer Lower for under $440. In put iron sights and a Red Dot on it and am going to sight it in tomorrow. It says it has the enhanced extractor and firing pin, so we’ll see how it goes!
I've successfully built two BCA 7.62x39 HBAR uppers. 7.5" and 16". Both run steel casing no issues. I love the 16". The main issues I think are with the magazines. You have to either modify the mags or go through different magazines to find the right one which will fix cycling issues. Oh and the enhanced firing pin is a must for steel cased ammo.
C products are branded duramag now. Asc mags are ok but they might need a little taken off on top in front. Have not tried it but noticed when I was manually unloading mag.
I just bought my AR47 upper from BCA. I can't wait to get it set up and test it out. Palmetto State Armory lower matched with a BCA upper is the way to go. I foresee buying a match grade single stage trigger here soon too. I'm sorry, I'm just excited.
Its a sad thing when a company tells you they sold you a product that was faulty and then wants to charge you to fix it. This says a lot about Bear Creek Arsenal.
Hard primers is only part of the problem. Just about any "mil-spec" 7.62x39 ammo has slightly recessed primers as well. The 5.56 NATO primer is nearly flush with the case. So a mil-spec AR firing pin tip is slightly too short to reliability set off "mil-spec" 7.62x39 primers. Also, if primer hardness was the issues, a longer pin wouldn't be the fix, since that doesn't add more force. Only a heavier hammer spring would add more force. Yet that is usually not necessary. My lower has a very light hammer spring but I am using an enhanced firing pin and 7.62x39 goes bang every time. YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY.
If a truck has a 20' chain hooked to it and it hits you, one foot before the chain gets tight it is going to hit you way harder than if it hit you 6" before the chain gets tight.
Thanks for listening to your customers I gotta get me a new 7.62x39 bolt now I just had a broken extractor from steel case ammo about 200 rds no more and it broke waiting to get another extractor
I had an issue with cycling. Carbine buffer was too light and the casings kept getting caught and jamming. I saw other day to use an H3 but when I tried that the bolt wouldn't eject the casing. Finally tried an H2 buffer and it works beautifully. Using the Billet 10.5 upper, standard charging. Only have used brass ammo so far. And fwiw I did put in an enhanced FP and had no issues using the brass ammo. I would have left a 4 star rating cause the upper was not ready to rock right out of the box, but apparently you don't allow everyone to leave a rating 😁. It's going to be a fun shooter though.
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Finally got to run mine today, 160 rounds later no failures. Ran flawlessly. CProduct DuraMags fed this beast again flawlessly. Build quality of the upper is fantastic fit perfect on my lower (Diamondback DB15). It was so much fun to shoot, almost want to buy another lower so I can shoot this all the time. Thanks for this video and others for their reviews!
I could found the main reason why those extractor failed so quickly (someone's failed around 200-300 rounds). I went to range three weeks ago and the BCA gun failed extracting from the first round. I had to use extreme effort to pull out the steel case for about 20 rounds. The force I used to pull out the cases might be over 40 lbs because I have to secure the gun and use two hands to pull the handle in order to extracting the steel case. It was not fun at all. And the steel cases' neck has at least half lobe area, which is about 1mm wide. I would say the quality of the chamber might be the main reason caused those extractor failed. I sent mine upper back and still not get back yet. Will upgrade later after I get back.
I've been having issues with both my BCA 10.5" uppers with carbine gas. Brass runs fine, but steel short strokes and fails to strip the next cartridge, fails to extract, fails to eject, fails to go into battery, etc. Every 5th round or so leaves a stuck case in the chamber
Sorry to hear that! Check to insure your gas block and gas key screws are tight. That doesn't help reach out to bcatech@bearcreekarsenal.com and they will assist you
@@slippinclippin1859 my brother you said it perfectly haha I have a Bulgarian AK-74 and have stacked considerable amount of 5.45 ammo over the years I need to shoot and nothing better then out of an AR (my favorite platform in the world) chambered in 5.45x39!!!! DREAM!!!
I just wish bear creek would change there 16 inch 6.5 Grendel to an intermediate or rifle length gas port and make the port smaller because even with the H3 buffer it recoils harder than a 10mm blowback PCC
Is it true that BCA supplied the barrels for PSA back in the day? I'm 99% certain my PSA x39 upper i bought back in 2013, has a BCA barrel on it. My favorite rifle in my collection. Its never even seen brass ammo.
I absolutely love BEAR CREEK ARSENAL!! From A-Z price, customer service, product etc.. all they need is a layaway system and it'd be all wood! Lmao I'm expecting 10.5" 5.56 upper today! Fed Ex is slow sometimes lol
Might be easier to just buy one and install. I got a Red X Arms heavy duty pin for like $11 and it works great, took 10 mins to install. I called recently over an extractor break and they were out of enhanced pins, probably because they're implementing them into the new setups. They took care of my extractor though no problem. EDIT: I'm seeing BCA say they have pins in stock now. I'd go through them 👍
@@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III thanks took your advice and went to Black Rifle Arms and purchased their AR15 enhanced firing pin. Will replace mine when it arrives. Thanks for the information.
Are the bolt faces made of SAE 4140 it better that will make up for the thin wall bolt face. Also a nickel boron coating or a EPC108 ceramic thermal coating would help performance with steel cased ammo. We use said coatings on high performance pistons and after 1,000 hard runs at the track 1/4 mile we have minimal carbon buildup it's a great coating and can withstand the punishment.
All our AR-15 7.62x39 complete firearms and uppers come with enhanced firing pins now! Check them out on our website
When did the the enhancements start being integrated? I just got a Gen 2 side charger 7.62 about a month ago.
Just sent in my standard 7.62x39 upper back to BCA due to inconsistent feed and ejection issues even with enhanced firing pin with both steel and brass. I hope the issue can be fixed. I really like the platform.
What will be done with current customers who purchased your 7.62 uppers and are experiencing light primer strikes because of the standard firing pins?
Y'all kick ass!
Can I buy a enhanced firing pin from you guys?
I burned out a BCA 7.62x39 16" barrel with roughly 6k rounds through it over four years, I learned a few lessons with the build.
The replacement barrel had AK/bushmaster 7.62 style feed ramps which was a huge upgrade for feeding and not deforming soft points.
1. enhanced firing pin is a MUST, you don't need extra power hammer springs. Black rifle arms makes the best one
2. Your extractor WILL break within 1500-2500rds. It's the nature of the bolt face geometry. I have used a Colt gold extractor spring with insert and no oring and have had no issues after 3k rounds, wish me luck. I've heard black rifle arms makes the best extractor as well.
3. Adjustable gas blocks really reduce parts wear and recoil. Highly recommend upgrade.
I have one suggestion for a serious upgrade, PLEASE make midlength gas system barrels! The parts wear/breakage will be significantly reduced!
What adjustable gas block did you get?
@@elyriggs9346 I run ERGO adjustable gas blocks, but if I had to do my build again I would choose a superlative arms bleed-off gas block.
Yes, please on the mid length. Or even rifle with an 18" barrel. I choked my gas port down to almost nothing and it was still locking open with steel case.
@@randomidiot8142 I had the same experience, try an A2 or VLTOR A5 buffer setup. You can run an H2 carbine/VLTOR or A2 rifle buffer even with the gas turned all the way down with roughly 30% less recoil.
@@SuspiciousGanymede I tried something similar with my 18" mid 7.62*39 and even with just enough gas to lock back I was getting really bad brass case rim scars from the extractor when I was running a light (empty) buffer. My 10" has a 7 oz buffer (heavier than heavy), standard spring and tuned gas, and it runs really smooth. I'll be going heavy to save brass rims from now on.
I am super excited! I just purchased a 20 inch right side charging handle, full complete A.R. 15 rifle chambered and 5.56. The only thing I have to say that’s negative up to this point is when I purchased it directly from Bear Creek Arsenal is that it does not come with a magazine. Other than that so far, this will be my very first Bear Creek Arsenal.
Nothing but respect. You guys owned up to some of the first gen. upper issues and explained the issues you were having, and from what I've heard, fixed people's extractors and firing pins, etc. Now THATS transparency and great customer service. I just bought a gen 2 16" 7.62 upper and cannot wait to start my build! Thanks BCA!
I love this company’s transparency and customer service. I’ve got their grendel upper and I run steel case through it with no issues so far. Now that they’ve upgraded the 7.62 I just bought me a pistol upper. If you’re on the fence, I can confirm that if for any reason you experience an issue, they WILL take of it in the customer service department. They also don’t charge a shit ton so that’s awesome too.
I wish you were right, I have pistol and rifle ak uppers! Both have same problem, I sent the pistol back to get fixed, and still doesn't fire bout 1/3 of the rounds!! I have purchased 9 uppers from them and have sent numerous people there wY but won't buy anymore from them if I have to purchase parts for something they got in a hurry to sell, but doesn't actually work!! Thell lose my business over like 20 dollars
i bought one and my buddy did also.. i changed the pin and hammer spring before i even shot it once (thanks 704 tactical). Went to range Saturday and mine ran 200 rounds of Wolf and 40 rounds of monarch without a hiccup. He would have a lite primer strike every once in a while. Needless to say he is changing those parts out. Rifle was a blast to shoot!
I replaced firing pins and hammer springs in both of my BCA 7.62x39 uppers (with Black Rifle pins/springs)….no problems now!!
I loving my new BCA complete 7.62x39 upper. Break in time was easy and the rifle is a lazer beam at 200 yards. The craftsmanship is beautiful! God bless BCA
I built an AR47 using a BCA side charger , but I got a left handed upper (I'm a right handed shooter). Holy COW! I love it. The ejection pattern works well for a right handed user, I did replace the firing pin and hammer spring and it just works like a monster! It has quickly become one of my favorites and my friends always want to try it out.
Great to hear Daniel!
What kind of ammo you using ?
@@Thebarrioboy2009gma TULA steel cased mostly
@@danielboydcooper6850 oh okay good to hear I ordered 1000rds of wolf and I am going to shoot her on Saturday hoping all is good
Alright that’s what I’m talking about:) Bear creek Arsenal!!!! You guys are the best, always stepping up and listening to the customers.
Thanks
I’ve built a 6.5 Grendel through BCA and I love it. I’m now on my second build with the AR/AK 7.62x39 in AR platform. Two thumbs up!!
i'm on my 1st year owning and shooting a BCA 7.62x39. the only thing i have done different is stop using the steel case in favor of the Belom brass case. i do love that ammo. accuracy greatly improved velocity is more consistent. i don't spray and pray nothing. BCA rocks!
Have u had any problems with the uppers im thinking of getting one but still deciding
@@davidmoreno5021 I have 2 chambered in 7.62x39, worth it for the price.
Their 12.7x42 uppers are a lot of fun. Highly recommend.
At $2.50-3.00 a cartridge? Maybe not so much.
Much respect for listening to the customers, unlike a lot of other manufacturers
BCA , We Appreciate your Support
During these Times of Need.
Agreed
Black rifle arms makes the firing pins for the older 7.62 uppers i ordered a few for mine now the rifle shoots steel all day
Great video, you guys are adding value every time you solve problems, I'm 💯% BEAR CREEK! You guys are on your way up.
Thanks!! I just ordered my 7.62 7.5in upper today!!
Just received my 7.62 upper. Great price and came with the enhanced firing pin. Looks great and can't wait to get it to the range. My 556 BCA upper shoots great, so I am expecting great things.
Hey man, I wanted to thank you for the correction of my order, and the swag. I really appreciate you making it right and the fact that you PERSONALLY called me, made me very happy. Was even happier when my side charger 7.62 worked great. Thanks again, I appreciate the call, it meant a lot to me as a customer
Loved my BCA x39 upper. Once I got the enhanced firing pin and took my dremel out and polished the feed ramps for SP. Then it was all good. Larue trigger doesn't hurt either.
Happy you guys are improving and listening to customers. The 7.62x39 AR is getting super popular nowadays and I hope you guys keep it up at the top of yalls list! Thx #bcaftw
These were my only complaints about the 7.62 uppers as I just broke and extractor and had to upgrade my pin. Great to see they're listening and improving. The pin was cheap ($11) and they replaced my extractor super fast under warranty.
I had same problem breaking extractors. I put a heavier buffer and spring. It slowed it down just enough to solve the problem.
I'm building a AR47 now and have bought the bolt and a 7.62x39 barrel from Bear Creek. Thanks for the help.
Actually the Steel does expand enough to seal the chamber, or you would see black all over the casing from gas blow pass. Been building arx39 since 1982
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. What barrel and BCG are you running? I’m thinking of AR stoner
Bought a bca 7.62 upper, but sold it to purchase a zavasta. Will say , great upper and good to know your swapping out the firing pin..
Would be good to have different hand rails to choose from , would make sales rocket I'm sure.
Good company...
My son bought me a 3 in 1 scope from UUQ. 4x-16x scope with red dot reticle on top. Also a green laser on the right and a flashlight on the left of the scope. I love that gun. Thanks Bear Creek Arsenal.
I bought my BCA 7.62x39 about 3 years ago. Should I go ahead and order another extractor to have in case it goes out. I am very impressed with your customer service. I live in GA and just called your customer service when I was having trouble with the gun not shooting the russian hard berdan primer. I was told I needed an enhanced firing pin and a stronger trigger spring. I order them and installed them easily and shoots great. I am a loyal BCA customer. Made in America baby.
The firing pin is a nice touch because I have to put the enhanced pin in all my rifles in that caliber in the past. Another reliability upgrade is to switch over to the five coil extractor spring from sprinco, that extra pressure really helps with reliability for these rifles when running suppressed.
Extremely satisfied with BCA 762x39 uppers! Runs perfect right out of the box with steel and brass ammo! Shipping is always quick and product comes professional wrapped with care. Will continue to order and my safes will be full of BCA products! Keep it up BCA , you guys rock!
Hope you guys consider making short barrel PCC uppers in 9mm and 40 cal. Take my money please....
I could have sworn they do make 9mm ar-15 barrels already
@@kennethrand1032 ya one 16 inch 9mm. Not impressed
@@glock23fan50 my build 16" bca bbl a2 stock runs good 9mm with mean 9mm mag conversion .
Wish I knew before I ordered an enhanced firing pin and hammer spring 🤦♂️ oh well. Got a spare! You guys are awesome!!
I just received my first AR 15 complete rifle from BCA for father's day and can't wait to do some shooting 😎 and great customer service guys I appreciate y'all!
So how did it hold up man?
It's holding up pretty good, I can't complain 😎
@@loko7711
Great! You running steel cased? As an AK guy that's all I shoot. Also. Have you put many rounds through it?
@@nathanielselvidge4157 I have an SKS so I was stoked up on 7.62 rounds love it though
@@loko7711
Seems we are in the same boat!
LMT makes a 7.62x39 bolt. That seems like the best option. Still, bear creek is doing a hell of a job. I think this is a very smart move for them, financially. They are filling a very niche roll that not too many companies mess with. And I keep seeing more and more people wanting an AR chambered in 7.62x39. It's a smart decision honestly. You'll have a gun that has almost complete parts compatibility and can fire the 7.62x39. Shit... That's what the acr was made for.
Saving up for a BCA 7.62 upper, cant wait till I'm able to get it!
Thanks for the info…!
Will be ordering one in the AM…
Depending on what you're using for a fire control group sometimes it takes more than a enhanced firing pin. Especially, when you're using a drop in trigger. You can bend the forks out on a standard hammer spring and get the extra energy you need to detonate the round. You can also bend the hammer spring on a drop in trigger too if you can take it apart. Another trick, you can sand the tail of the bolt to get more firing pin protrusion(.041), that's usually the last thing I try and it always works.
I've got a 7.62x39 upper from you guys. I have loved it. I did learn do not shoot lacquer coated rounds! Destroyed my barrel extension. 😢
I bought an upper awhile back, all light primer strikes. Replaced with their newer bolt and enhanced firing pin, nothing. Replaced hammer spring with Wolf extra power, about 50/50 light strikes no matter what kind of Soviet ammo. Installed an h2 buffer and red Sprinco buffer spring, no change.. Bought a whole different upper from BCA and put all my innards in it (to keep it scientific), works great. That means the first upper was out of spec in the chamber causing the round to sit too far forward, preventing the pin from reaching the primer enough much of the time... Doesn't take much. Wonder if they'll let me return or replace the out of spec upper?
YEP.
I have several BCA uppers including 2 in 7.62X39. After a few rounds on an upgraded bolt it had to be returned for replacement. No problems with the other, both have the upgrades. No problems with any other BCA uppers either.
I wish BCA would sell the bolt indepently or at least get the 7.62 BCG back in stock. I like spare parts for everything! With one failure it is more important to me to have a spare bolt or BCG. I'm happy to pay for spare parts as the warranty turn around was fast with the exception of sending it to and receiving from BCA.
I got 2 of your 7.62x39 uppers 2 weeks ago and i just called this morning about a broke extractor hopefully i get the new modified ones. By far the best uppers for the money and customer service wow spot on definitely a bca fan glad you all are trying to make the uppers even better
Happy to hear it!
Another thing, brass cools faster than steel. You will need to increase the lock time with a H3 buffer to give the casing enough time to cool down so it will extract easily. This is the number one problem I have seen with extraction issues.
My goodness..took my new 10.5 7.62x39 bca upper out today with a lower for different gun..had 2 light primer strikes in about 200 rounds. I was so fuckin happy..can't imagine when I get a dedicated lower for it
These are very good bolts (I have two). Bear Creek gets a big thumbs up from me.
Just ordered a 10.5 upper a few days ago. Can’t wait to hit the range with it!
Did you hit the range yet?
It broke hes waiting for replacement parts
Had issues with light primer strikes, no issues with extraction. I just ordered a enhanced firing pin, looking forward to testing it in y'all's upper
Have you shot it yet with new pin?
My 5.56 bear creek uppers love steel case ammo. Infact often times brass gets stuck in the chamber more often than steel. You might wear your extractor out but that's what $15? You pay for that when you buy 2 boxes of ammo
I wish yall would sell just the 762x39 extractors and bolts on the website, I'd like to have extra.
Just built my 1st 5.56 ar15 using your upper love it .
Going to be building a 7.62 x 39 and a ar10 real soon. Thank you for having great product great prices and built here in merica 👍👍
Hey BCA team! Got my gen 2, 7.62 upper a month ago and finally took it out to the range yesterday. I shot ~40 rounds of Tula through it, before I had a stuck casing in the barrel, and the extractor broke. I'm currently waiting for a response from the warranty team, but I'm curious to see if anyone else is having issues with gen 2's? I bought it specifically to deal with steel cased ammo. I'm hoping to get this issue sorted out soon. Thanks,
-Lance
So did BCA make it right?
@@ultimatefighter225 Update: Took about 2.5 weeks or so by the time I shipped it off to when I received it. BCA cleaned/lubed the gun, and replaced extractor -all expenses paid on them. They were quick and friendly, so I can say that I had a really good customer service experience. I've put roughly 120 steel cased rounds (Tul Ammo, 122 grain) from 2 range trips and so far the extractor has held up.
Same issue today. We will see what they decide to do...
I just bought one, got it a few days ago, I believe it was said that it was supposed to come with enhanced, but I bought a enhanced firing pin and hammer spring anyways. It did not appear that my upper came enhanced
I too appreciate the gen2 improvements and just got a shipping notice on my 10.5" x39 upper only 1 day after ordering. Planning on using it with cpd 20rd mag, trs25 as an easy to carry ranch gun. We get some pretty foul, bad-tempered rabbits with big pointy teeth.
Just bought my 762x39 in 10.5 side charging last night and I can't wait to have it already
Enjoy!
Listen fellas. Ive built many AR-47s. What yall need to do is start shipping out the BCG's with standard milspec .223 extractors that have not been modified like the bolt face. The standard .223 extractors work flawlessly with 7.62. its the very first modification i make on all my 47 bolts. God bless. I hope you listen to my advice and implement the upgrade.
I have a Bear Creek Arsenal ar15 in 7.62x39. I had to replace the firing pin to an enhanced firing pin. Also replaced the trigger spring with a stronger trigger spring. Now it shoots that Russian ammo great.
I use mine for deer hunting. I only use small capacity mags. I also use it for summer damage tags for deer damaging our crops. Cheap soft point ammo crushes deer. I got an extended firing pin and bcg from fail zero (sorry). But it works great.
I bought a complete upper from BCA in December and it was flawless once I installed an enhanced firing pin. Bought a BCA 7.62 BCG for another build that I did with a KAK 4.75 inch barrel a couple of months ago. It needed the enhanced pin also to run steel ammo. Both of them run perfectly. Recommended to BCA in December and questioned why they didn't build them with an enhanced pin to begin with. Was told that some in BCA had suggested it but it was always tabled. Glad you all changed your position. Your stuff should run golden now. Good job!
Not to be a dick, I love BCA, but why buy an expensive KAK barrel and then a super super budget bcg?
@@Bloodreign137 Thanks for asking. Real world experience. Based on my flawless experience with my first BCA 7.62x39 BCG, I went with it on this build. Actually, the only issue I had was with the barrel. First one caused the BCG to jam while charging. KAK sent me a replacement and it was fine. Runs great. Fun pistol.
Definitely going to buy a 762x39 upper from y’all now , way to adding that extra care setting y’all apart from the competition
lol I was shooting for the first time from my bear creek arsenal 7.62x39 gen 2
Last weekend man brilliant upper i used all brands of 7.62x39 ammo about 400 rounds i didn't have a single jam when I was shooting not even one i replaced the enhanced firing pin and trigger spring good job bear creek arsenal 👍👍
Great to hear!
I run mine somewhat "wet" with an enhanced firing pin, STOCK hammer spring, and C Defence Products magazines...eats Wolf, Barnaul, and anything else I feed them all day long
Wow, you make the steel cases sound like INFIDELS! ;) I'm glad you've worked through your problems and are building fully capable weapons to fire the steel cased 7.62s now. I may have to grab your upper to throw on my BCA 5.56 AR.
It would be nice if you guys would go back to the older enhanced firing pins. I have one from about 5 or 6 yes ago still going strong. I had some of your latest in a current build and one of them broke first time at the range. I’ve also noticed your latest uppers do not fit up as tight to different lowers as they used too. I know supply issues and increased demand could play a part but wanted to throw that out there. Thank you
I ordered my 7.62x39 upper and it was my favorite upper… until the gas key became loose. I sent you guys an email about it!
ok great! We typically respond to emails within 3 business days
I was at a gunshot last week. I had and old SKS that had broken a firing pin, so I bought a new firing pin. I have a couple SKS so decided to sell that one. On my way out I passed a guy’s booth that was selling Bear Creek Arsenal Uppers. He had a 7.62x39 for a real good price, so I bought it and an Anderson Manufacturer Lower for under $440. In put iron sights and a Red Dot on it and am going to sight it in tomorrow. It says it has the enhanced extractor and firing pin, so we’ll see how it goes!
I've successfully built two BCA 7.62x39 HBAR uppers. 7.5" and 16". Both run steel casing no issues. I love the 16". The main issues I think are with the magazines. You have to either modify the mags or go through different magazines to find the right one which will fix cycling issues. Oh and the enhanced firing pin is a must for steel cased ammo.
YES, MAGS. MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
@Ga Driller YEP, C-Mags. is what I also run.
C products are branded duramag now. Asc mags are ok but they might need a little taken off on top in front. Have not tried it but noticed when I was manually unloading mag.
@@bljdeep that sucks dude. I think c products makes them to. What do you do yo it when you modify it ?
I just bought my AR47 upper from BCA. I can't wait to get it set up and test it out. Palmetto State Armory lower matched with a BCA upper is the way to go. I foresee buying a match grade single stage trigger here soon too. I'm sorry, I'm just excited.
Its a sad thing when a company tells you they sold you a product that was faulty and then wants to charge you to fix it. This says a lot about Bear Creek Arsenal.
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Nahhh this is a normal caliber issue lol this is more of a AK caliber n SKS
Ammo inc is making 7.62 in Wisconsin and PSA is supposed to start manufacturing soon,
Hard primers is only part of the problem. Just about any "mil-spec" 7.62x39 ammo has slightly recessed primers as well. The 5.56 NATO primer is nearly flush with the case. So a mil-spec AR firing pin tip is slightly too short to reliability set off "mil-spec" 7.62x39 primers. Also, if primer hardness was the issues, a longer pin wouldn't be the fix, since that doesn't add more force. Only a heavier hammer spring would add more force. Yet that is usually not necessary. My lower has a very light hammer spring but I am using an enhanced firing pin and 7.62x39 goes bang every time. YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY.
If a truck has a 20' chain hooked to it and it hits you, one foot before the chain gets tight it is going to hit you way harder than if it hit you 6" before the chain gets tight.
I have one of your upper 7.62x39 and I've haven't had any problems with love it, much more accurate thay AK which is why I purchase it accuracy
I had trouble getting steel to cycle. I found I had to adjust my gas block to let more gas in the tube to get cycling with steel.
man i need an upper... there's dirt cheap 762 everywhere
I got 2 7.62 x 39 uppers from BCA and both broke immediately
Thanks for listening to your customers I gotta get me a new 7.62x39 bolt now I just had a broken extractor from steel case ammo about 200 rds no more and it broke waiting to get another extractor
Be sure to email customerservice@bearcreekarsenal.com with your order number and a pic of your broken extractor and we will be able to assist you!
Thanks I'll do that after I get off
I had an issue with cycling. Carbine buffer was too light and the casings kept getting caught and jamming. I saw other day to use an H3 but when I tried that the bolt wouldn't eject the casing. Finally tried an H2 buffer and it works beautifully. Using the Billet 10.5 upper, standard charging. Only have used brass ammo so far. And fwiw I did put in an enhanced FP and had no issues using the brass ammo. I would have left a 4 star rating cause the upper was not ready to rock right out of the box, but apparently you don't allow everyone to leave a rating 😁. It's going to be a fun shooter though.
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I've actually had nothing but issues. It is now my life goal to get this thing running though because it gets so much attention. Very cool pistol.
Finally got to run mine today, 160 rounds later no failures. Ran flawlessly. CProduct DuraMags fed this beast again flawlessly. Build quality of the upper is fantastic fit perfect on my lower (Diamondback DB15). It was so much fun to shoot, almost want to buy another lower so I can shoot this all the time. Thanks for this video and others for their reviews!
What's else can be said. Very awesome bear creek and keep it coming.
I could found the main reason why those extractor failed so quickly (someone's failed around 200-300 rounds). I went to range three weeks ago and the BCA gun failed extracting from the first round. I had to use extreme effort to pull out the steel case for about 20 rounds. The force I used to pull out the cases might be over 40 lbs because I have to secure the gun and use two hands to pull the handle in order to extracting the steel case. It was not fun at all. And the steel cases' neck has at least half lobe area, which is about 1mm wide.
I would say the quality of the chamber might be the main reason caused those extractor failed. I sent mine upper back and still not get back yet. Will upgrade later after I get back.
I've been having issues with both my BCA 10.5" uppers with carbine gas. Brass runs fine, but steel short strokes and fails to strip the next cartridge, fails to extract, fails to eject, fails to go into battery, etc. Every 5th round or so leaves a stuck case in the chamber
Sorry to hear that! Check to insure your gas block and gas key screws are tight. That doesn't help reach out to bcatech@bearcreekarsenal.com and they will assist you
great but should highlight your points forbetter clarification because i wasnt sure which pin you were talking about when you compared both
PLEASE make a AK-74 upper in 5.45x39!!
It would be beautiful
@@slippinclippin1859 I SERIOUSLY HOPE SO!!! These guys' expertise can do it!
@@slippinclippin1859 same brother!!!
@@slippinclippin1859 my brother you said it perfectly haha I have a Bulgarian AK-74 and have stacked considerable amount of 5.45 ammo over the years I need to shoot and nothing better then out of an AR (my favorite platform in the world) chambered in 5.45x39!!!! DREAM!!!
Another great video! Thank you!
I've done the hammer spring upgrade and firing pin upgrade and I still get light strikes on berdan primed wolf 7.62x39
I just did the enhanced firing pin I still get about maybe one or two out of 100 l p s
Did notice shooting brass no problems so for Target ammo I guess it's not too bad
I just wish bear creek would change there 16 inch 6.5 Grendel to an intermediate or rifle length gas port and make the port smaller because even with the H3 buffer it recoils harder than a 10mm blowback PCC
Hell yeah I call mine a meat cleaver
Need to make tunsgsten pins
building one from ya right now youd best still have that 7.62x39 M-4 style upper instock
Is it true that BCA supplied the barrels for PSA back in the day? I'm 99% certain my PSA x39 upper i bought back in 2013, has a BCA barrel on it. My favorite rifle in my collection. Its never even seen brass ammo.
Was this done with the gen 2 side chargers or like right now new? I have a gen 1 and 2 7.62
Love bear creek
This was implemented very recently, after Gen-2 side chargers had come out.
I also would like a 14.5 762x39 upper or barrel. BCA please make it happen!
medium light weight. not m4, not heavy.
The only thing lacking is a nitrided or chrome-lined barrel.
I assumed this firing pin upgrade was already in your 7.62x39 uppers? These have been out for many years. Do you grind down M4 feed ramps now too?
I absolutely love BEAR CREEK ARSENAL!! From A-Z price, customer service, product etc.. all they need is a layaway system and it'd be all wood! Lmao I'm expecting 10.5" 5.56 upper today! Fed Ex is slow sometimes lol
Just so you know you may not need an enhanced hammer spring if you have an enhanced fireing pin. Mis runs great without a heavier spring.
Will we be able to exchange our current pins for enhanced when they are available? Just picked up a side charger.
Might be easier to just buy one and install. I got a Red X Arms heavy duty pin for like $11 and it works great, took 10 mins to install. I called recently over an extractor break and they were out of enhanced pins, probably because they're implementing them into the new setups. They took care of my extractor though no problem. EDIT: I'm seeing BCA say they have pins in stock now. I'd go through them 👍
I bought an enhanced firing pin and enhanced power hammer spring for $15 at black rifle arms
Yeah me too
@@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III thanks took your advice and went to Black Rifle Arms and purchased their AR15 enhanced firing pin. Will replace mine when it arrives. Thanks for the information.
@@williambarber8118 awesome, I should have included that those are only $4.99 by themselves
Got mine and put about 200 rounds through it today. Just broke my extractor. Lol
Any plans for mid-length gas systems in the future? And also maybe lighter profile barrels? Thanks.
Are the bolt faces made of SAE 4140 it better that will make up for the thin wall bolt face. Also a nickel boron coating or a EPC108 ceramic thermal coating would help performance with steel cased ammo. We use said coatings on high performance pistons and after 1,000 hard runs at the track 1/4 mile we have minimal carbon buildup it's a great coating and can withstand the punishment.
Where do I find extractors for the side charging 7.62? I would like to get a few extra
Will a Springco or BCM extractor spring put too much pressure on the 7.62 extractor?
NO but their stupid O-Ring will.