What if Ultra Ego Vegeta FOUGHT Orange Piccolo?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Vegeta and Piccolo have NEVER fought in the history of Dragon Ball, so what would happen if they did? At their current strongest, what if Ultra Ego Vegeta FOUGHT Orange Piccolo? Let's talk about who would win!
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Комментарии • 115

  • @michaeleverett1376
    @michaeleverett1376 Год назад +48

    I'm glad Piccolo is up there with Goku and Vegeta again.

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +9

      Same here! I hope it stays that way, at least for a while

    • @Dave-gk6si
      @Dave-gk6si Год назад +1

      He’s only SSB tier supposedly

    • @michaeleverett1376
      @michaeleverett1376 Год назад +4

      @@Dave-gk6si That's his yellow form, his more unique orange form is up there with the ultra states.

    • @Dave-gk6si
      @Dave-gk6si Год назад +4

      @@michaeleverett1376 There is no ultra states in the movie continuity.

    • @runin12
      @runin12 Год назад +2

      @@Dave-gk6si there literally is the movie is 3 years after the granhola arc goku and vegeta both have ultra ego and UI there, and orange piccolo surpasses everyone in the granhola arc except black frieza and is currently equal to dbssh goku this means he is most likely stronger than vegeta at mhm and beast gohan is stronger than all of them

  • @michelk.8008
    @michelk.8008 Год назад +23

    That'd be an Interesting Matchup since they've never fought eachother before

  • @trentbell8276
    @trentbell8276 11 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for not downplaying Piccolo like everyone else does

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  11 месяцев назад +2

      Even if he’s not AS strong, he’s not a pushover like people think

  • @sonicsaiyan07
    @sonicsaiyan07 Год назад +14

    Imagine Orange Piccolo using multi-form and then all the clones grow giant. Growing giant doesn't increase power and makes you a larger target so only growing giant against a single small opponent is somewhat detrimental, but having to deal with MULTIPLE giants that are comparable in strength to you? THAT'S how you overwhelm someone.

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +8

      That’s true too! Plus if he trains more, he could handle mixing all these techniques more easily

    • @simpgod2170
      @simpgod2170 Год назад +2

      Vegeta would win by just using spirit fisson and separating piccolo from kami and nail, making piccolo a lot weaker

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +3

      @@simpgod2170 Vegeta wouldn’t want an easy win. He’d probably not even want to use the technique if he didn’t have to.

    • @simpgod2170
      @simpgod2170 Год назад +3

      @@InnovativeJdawg depends tbh. Vegeta is more willing to do things he normally wouldn't do if it meant he get the win.

    • @Flipitmixit
      @Flipitmixit Год назад +3

      Splitting your body also splits your power. All those giant piccolos would be weak asf

  • @jac9672
    @jac9672 Год назад +2

    This guy deserves more fame

  • @honestmaster1932
    @honestmaster1932 Год назад +2

    Hmm.. i don't think defuse Piccolo from Nail and Kami would make any difference at this point. Orange Piccolo is strong by itself

  • @TheDarkOneNega
    @TheDarkOneNega Год назад +7

    Namek regeneration Vs damage absorption

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +2

      Both have really cool and broken techniques. Even if it's a one-sided fight, I'd love to see how their techniques stack up against each other at the very least

  • @Bluepheonix420
    @Bluepheonix420 10 месяцев назад +1

    Vegeta stomps on orange piccolo even without ultra ego , he does indeed get strong but I feel like it's kind of like ultra super saiyan that the big muscles make him stronger but slower. Piccolo needs to train more to perfect the form and find a balance between strength and speed.

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 Год назад +2

    If you think about it, despite having been part of the group for decades, Vegeta has no relationship with any of the main characters aside from Goku and Bulma. My guy has no friends.

    • @Syryu
      @Syryu 5 месяцев назад +1

      I mean Goku and Bulma are the only ones who actually enjoys Vegeta's company, everyone else just tolerates him. He's the friend no one really likes.

    • @hououinkyouma3864
      @hououinkyouma3864 5 месяцев назад +1

      He did to Gohan as well. Remember in the Buu saga, he hated how he wasted his potential, but when he thought that Gohan died because of him, he felt regret and anger towards Buu. He also saved him a couple of times, and stated that he had the most potential, which coming from Vegeta is a huge compliment.
      But yes, in the grand scale he is only really interested in his family and Goku.

  • @connergaskell1909
    @connergaskell1909 Год назад +4

    This be a glorious match up and in BT4 I can't wait make it happen.

  • @dancooke8811
    @dancooke8811 Год назад +1

    Vegeta could use instant transmission to avoid all of Piccolo's moves and Vegeta's UE gets more powerful as the fight drags on and he has Blue Evolution.
    Piccolo's new form is only as powerful as SSB.

    • @trentbell8276
      @trentbell8276 11 месяцев назад +1

      Piccolo's yellow form is Blue level. Orange is at least close to Goku and Vegeta's max power levels, even if he does still lose.

    • @Travis371
      @Travis371 3 месяца назад

      Piccolo's new form is definitely stronger than Super Saiyan Blue, and probably even Blue Evolution too.

  • @taecampus
    @taecampus Год назад +3

    Didn't Piccolo say that his transforming into a giant doesn't really boost his strength? It was just for show. So would him going giant really make his ki blast/beam gigantic as well? And if so, wouldn't it just use more energy to make it that size alone?
    Weird question, I know 😅

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +6

      Yeah you’re right, the Orange form doesn’t boost his strength, it just splits it apart into multiple targets. His ki blasts would remain the same strength as well, but they’d be sized up to match his size because it would be visually weird if he was firing tiny ki blasts lol.
      If I recall correctly, he uses some ki blasts against Cell Max that were sized up, but since he doesn’t get stronger by growing, they were the same strength, just bigger. I don’t think that it would require more energy to produce bigger ki blasts? I could be wrong, but I would imagine since they’re matched to his bigger size, it would be the same kind of energy output.

  • @user-tk9cy2kn5g
    @user-tk9cy2kn5g Месяц назад +1

    Vegeta and piccolo never fought each other before

  • @Mog_Rizz
    @Mog_Rizz Год назад +1

    6:06
    Super vegeta is different & Z vegeta was different

  • @Dave-gk6si
    @Dave-gk6si Год назад +4

    It’s weird to be matching the two from different continuity’s

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +3

      Since it’s a “what if” anything is possible. Plus, Super Hero is the current manga arc

    • @Dave-gk6si
      @Dave-gk6si Год назад +1

      @@InnovativeJdawg Why Toyotaro is doing a retelling is beyond me

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +3

      @@Dave-gk6si It’s a bit weird, yeah, but I’m just hoping he takes time with it and adds to the movie. Like maybe we’ll actually get a good name for Orange Piccolo.

    • @Dave-gk6si
      @Dave-gk6si Год назад

      @@InnovativeJdawg Omg 😆 are you saying Toriyama sucks with names?

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +1

      @@Dave-gk6si Sometimes it’s hit or miss lol

  • @mugenuchiha5335
    @mugenuchiha5335 Год назад +2

    Good scenario but you did made a few mistakes:
    Piccolo never fought gamma 1 in the first place, he fought gamma 2. And know that both Gammas are equal to the current Goku and Vegeta.
    The next thing I will say is a lot of people keep saying that iphigenia uses Spirit fission, it's pretty much all over. Although Gina wouldn't use it because he wants a longer flight in a sparring match. But piccolo was explained on how the ability works which means that as long as he doesn't get hit, that ability is considered ineffective.
    It would be kind of cool if you could tapping into Kami's godly techniques. But so far we don't know if he chooses not to.
    The result of the fight doesn't try to use his haxs it would be an even fight with basically being a flip of a coin. Both of them are very intelligent fighters in their own right. Both have grown to exponential levels.

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад

      I didn’t say he fought Gamma 1 specifically, I just said his new form would allow him to fight off both, since they’re equal in strength and he beat Gamma 2.
      As for everything else though, well said, I agree!

    • @mugenuchiha5335
      @mugenuchiha5335 Год назад

      @@InnovativeJdawgeverything you said in the video, I can agree.

  • @AwakenZen
    @AwakenZen Год назад +1

    Piccolo is SSBE Vegeta level

  • @williamyee2355
    @williamyee2355 Год назад

    came to the channel for spidy thought i would watch this. good vid

  • @Nothing106
    @Nothing106 Год назад +3

    It can go either way

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад

      Agreed, depending on the situation of the fight!

    • @Nothing106
      @Nothing106 Год назад +1

      @@InnovativeJdawg People think piccolo is fodder to ue and mui but it’s literally stated he is on there lvl toriyama literally said he’s happy piccolo finally caught up to them

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад

      I'm glad too, it's been far too long since Piccolo was relevant

  • @jaredsumpter4629
    @jaredsumpter4629 Год назад

    Actually hero takes place rite before granola slightly during .
    Gamma 1 and 2 are comparable to ssj blue goku and vegeta not there max forms from fighting gas

  • @victorobidigbo2858
    @victorobidigbo2858 Год назад

    It's stated that if cell max could have controled himself he could have been equal if not stronger than broly. So if cell max was destroying orange piccolo while uncontrolled then he's not even stronger than broly and I personally think that goku and vegeta at their max powers right now are stronger than broly after seeing the granolah arc

    • @HappyGangy
      @HappyGangy 11 месяцев назад

      When was this stated?

  • @Flipitmixit
    @Flipitmixit Год назад +1

    At the beginning of the android saga piccolo had been training with goku and was stronger than dr gero, ssj vegeta was not that far ahead of him if at all😊

  • @azk2000
    @azk2000 Год назад

    Why they keep talking about ultra ego ultra that, right now vegeta is just blue n Piccolo Orange, if in the future the vegetable turns another color then we can talk.

  • @azk2000
    @azk2000 Год назад

    Beat his ass Piccolo

  • @e.l.4860
    @e.l.4860 Год назад

    Isn't Piccolo and Nail and Kami's fusion permanent?

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад

      Yes, unless if Vegeta forces them apart through Forced Spirit Fission

    • @e.l.4860
      @e.l.4860 Год назад

      @@InnovativeJdawg Maybe he could remove Nail, but Kami and Piccolo were originally one being.

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад

      @@e.l.4860 That’s true, and maybe that might be the case, we’ll probably never know

  • @Andropov-l2w
    @Andropov-l2w Год назад

    so now he's a super saiyan 🤷

  • @Tobanator1
    @Tobanator1 Год назад

    no no no no no piccolo giant size wouldn’t work against vegeta they talked about it in the sub version

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад

      I never said it would make him stronger, but his size in combination with other techniques would make him formidable against a regular sized Vegeta.

    • @Tobanator1
      @Tobanator1 Год назад

      @@InnovativeJdawg the form increase will in fact not make him formidable against vegeta , they literally stated how it wouldn’t work

  • @michealwilson5788
    @michealwilson5788 Год назад

    innovative jadew make what if about ssj3 vegeta in dragon Ball super tonight yes are no

  • @anthonycourt7977
    @anthonycourt7977 Год назад

    Cells games piccolo could match vegeta

  • @OFWItalian
    @OFWItalian Год назад +1

    Ok now vegeta gets his potential unlocked? What happens then?

  • @destroyerofworlds239
    @destroyerofworlds239 Год назад

    Piccolo is only Evo level maybe blue is all

  • @babinostventertainment3265
    @babinostventertainment3265 Год назад

    Did u forget vegeta can turn giant to and goku in MUI

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад

      With spirit control? That would just make it a more interesting fight imo

  • @gogeta-_-solos
    @gogeta-_-solos Год назад +3

    Goku solos😊

  • @drj894
    @drj894 Год назад +1

    Hi there just wanna say before I say all of this I respect you and this nothing against you I just wanna make this clear
    Ok I just want chime in piccolo made the comparison to the android but here’s the thing he can’t really scale them because of this they CANT SENSE GOD KI so his ASSUMES also cell max was confirmed weaker than broly they surpassed goku and vegeta after the Moro arc
    Also this movie was stated to not surpass the broly movie in power
    They were never stated to be above the ultra forms just stated on par or rivaling we’ve seen rivaling with gohan vs goku ssb yet we know goku was holding back and if he when all out he would’ve beat gohan
    Sorry but piccolo and gohan get slammed by goku and vegeta
    Again nothing against you dude your content is cool I know it’s really confusing with the super hero movie feats cause they stated weird stuff

  • @callmeEdge
    @callmeEdge Год назад +3

    Orange piccolo is equal to Super Saiyan God are super saiyan blue he is not equal to ultra instinct are ultra eagle

  • @husseinalsalami2148
    @husseinalsalami2148 Год назад +5

    I say Orange Piccolo is above SSB Vegeta but below SSB evolution. He’d stand no chance against UE Vegeta.

    • @InnovativeJdawg
      @InnovativeJdawg  Год назад +5

      Vegeta definitely has the edge, but Piccolo isn’t THAT far behind, at least imo

    • @trenthoward6800
      @trenthoward6800 Год назад +5

      UE jobbed in it's debut, not a good showing at all.

    • @husseinalsalami2148
      @husseinalsalami2148 Год назад

      @@trenthoward6800 He was doing better than Mastered UI Goku

    • @trenthoward6800
      @trenthoward6800 Год назад +1

      @@husseinalsalami2148 So what, that doesn't change anything about his jobbing streak.

    • @runin12
      @runin12 Год назад +6

      He is one shotting blue evo and is stronger than ultra ego in raw strength bro, you db fans need to understand that piccolo and gohan are fr like that right now orange piccolo would destroy Moro arc MUI goku and would beat granhola arc goku and vegeta, he is LITERALLY STATED to be equal to current goku by the man who created the entire series

  • @Flipitmixit
    @Flipitmixit Год назад +1

    Vegeta wins and its barely a contest. He has too many hax. Even IF piccolo is stronger it wouldnt be by much and the properties of ulra ego would overcome that gap quikly. Add in hakai and fission and its over. That being said I do agree that Vegeta wouldnt use spirit fission on piccolo. And Piccolo is the smartest fighter I know so he would defintely find a way to make this a good battle

  • @michealwilson5788
    @michealwilson5788 Год назад

    innovative jadew make what if about ssj3 vegeta tonight yes are no