I myself am currently in the market (and SERIOUSLY looking) at the A700s... Thanks!!! This just gave me the confirmation 🤙🏻🤙🏻 My search just ended. I'm placing my order with Buchardt for the A700s. Great video!
@@NoStereoNoLife No...don't worry. Hopefully I won't have to wait that long (like you have) before my set gets here. Looking forward to see that video! 🤙🏻
Nice demo, really appreciate your work to record this for us. Can you please share your experience how the speakers are doing now after breaking in and the mid-bass slam?
The Buchardt's are just a spectacular speaker. Once you've changed the tuning to the Theoretical setting it's no contest for me on what speaker is the most exciting and energizing. I've not found much that I like more without a sub as I enjoy a nice bounce when listening to music. Good thing I live in a house so I can appreciate them on the level they deserve.
Cant wait to hear more demos after break in period. Sounds good as is with only 8 hours. I can only imagine what it will sound like later. Inconceivable!
@@NoStereoNoLife understandable. Not sure if you give opinion on this but I wonder how they compare to other similarly priced speakers. It's about $7.6k usd for the bundle set. Pretty steep but could they be the end game for some people?
MULTIPLE MASTER TUNINGS!! Now this is cool and unheard of in the industry! With the flexibility of such powerful DSP, we are in complete control of what we want the speaker to do. This means, that we will provide downloadable master tunings to completely change the fundamentals of the speakers sound design. So what does this mean? (A500 is the explained example here) The standard master tuning the speakers come with, is a 2.5 way design, tuned to 25hz straight with a variable bass tuning. This means, if you play at 100dB, you can't expect two 6” woofers to generate 25hz. The system will then smoothly set the bass tuning higher, so the woofers don’t break. We think this is the best overall tuning for most people. But what if your needs are different? What if you rarely play loud? Maybe you live in a smaller apartment where SPL is not important to you? Then download a different master tuning from our website - copy the master tuning file onto a USB key - place the USB key in the USB port on the back of one of the speakers (when it's turned off) - turn it on - remove the USB key and repeat this process on the other speaker. Boom! you now have a speaker that is configured as a 3 way design, that is tuned to 20hz instead. A true full range compact speaker, perfect for small apartments! What if you want something where deep bass is not important, but SPL is? Maybe you want to use subs with them? Same thing; download a different master tuning that do just that. Here, only your imagination is the limit. We are experimenting with Cardioid tuning, semi Cardioid tuning, optimized nearfield tunings for professional studio use and much more. Have any great ideas? Let us know. We wish to make the most flexible speaker in the world. A speaker that we can keep on improving, even long after its release. (Different tunings for the A700 is also being developed, more information would follow). Upcoming solution for your mid-base problem. 🙌🏼
Thank you for the great videos and demos! After some research, I am totally convinced about the Buchardt speakers. Only I hesitate between the A500 and A700 and I do not have the knowledge of an audiophilel :). I want the speakers in our living room. This is 5.4 meters by 3.9 meters. The speakers are in the width in front of the seat (3.9 meters). The distance when I sit in my seat to my current speakers is about 2.8 meters. I listen mostly to quiet rock and like deep voices (The National, Leonard Cohen, ...). My questions: what am I missing if I buy the A500 and not the A700 (I really have FOMO!)? What is the difference in sound between these speakers? Are floorstanding speakers always better then bookshelves? Or will the A700 be overkill in this space?
FOMO? oh definitely get the A700 lol. The main difference is just the low end which is quite stunning if you play music with those freq range. I think the A700 also has an advantage having vertical imaging. I just experienced this last night while playing random music. The A700 is not really that big and it takes the same space as the bookshelf (with stand), and with the LLE feature you can still enjoy listening at lower volumes. We have about the same room size, the A700 is a good fit.
These and the A500's are dependent on the software provided in the master tunings. I had the A500's but the software was going through some problems and I gave up and sent them back just about the time they apparently straightened things out. I would want to know what state that software and hub to send it is in for the A700's before taking the plunge. And you can't demo these at any dealer since they are direct to customer. Its quite a risk but a tantalizing one. Lets get some more reviews and comparisons out there soon.
It turned out there was never issue with the mid-bass slam. Probably just in my mind getting sensitized of listening. Watch the Drum demo. Those at the back are cheapo "Dekiru" Sound absorbing panels from amazon. Oh, the square white panels just behind the speakers are from "UA-acoustics".
I got question regarding having an external amp already (Hegel H190). So if i buy these speakers and connect to amp via XLR i will loose Buchardt room correction DSP only, but i still get master tunings? Have you tested with room correction already and is it useful? Why i ask is because currently i have 70% music listening and 30% watching movies (5.1.2 setup). For movies is use tower speakers via receiver preout to my Hegel amp. So if i would connect A700 speaks to Hegel that gets signal from receiver, will that not conflict with Buchardt DSP when watching movies?
@@NoStereoNoLife Switching power supply's are very noisy, BUT your endpoint is not noisy at all, at least what i listen from here, are you using any special LPS for the RP14 and SMSL DAC or just plain walmart ?, Thank you
I"ll be interested when they make the usual rounds of the hifi community... Sean @ ZF hated the Buch A500 as they did not meet his expectations at all. I think the A700 likely show the full potential of the tech that Mads is working on but that price is a bitter pill to swallow. Especially with class d amplification... I guess we'll see how the master tunes work out as well as the room correction success people have via their iphone microphone.
What does breaking in actually entail, like, how long and what do you do? Do you play music continuously for like 30hrs at a normal ‘background music’ level or... also is that black little box the amp? I’ve never had new speakers before, only previously owned speakers, which needed no breaking in. They look amazing, btw!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! If practical for you - yes, continuously; but for me it's only when convenient. Just play music at normal level preferably the ones that can exercise/move the woofers. The black little box is the stereo hub that sends wireless signals to the speakers. If you have preamp you can connect to the speaker via XLR cable. The A700/A500 have their amp built in inside the speaker.
sorry for all these questions but im genuinely interested in these now. On the stevie ray vaughn song, are the guitar strings really forward and in your face ? Could you turn it up and it would still be tolerable? I ask because i had bw 702s2 and on songs like that they instruments were so forward it was like they were in your ears, so i couldnt even turn the volume up because it would be way too strident, not balanced...Was curious if these are balanced and in the ballpark of neutral or are they voiced forward and sometimes in your face?
Just listened louder like you said. lol I got mesmerized on the dynamics of strings moving left right, getting forceful and lighter. Same with the drums. It's not in-your-face forwardness, it's enveloping and the sound seem to come forward at times the sound get's louder, that's all.
That's the plan! I just tried them and the mp701 brings more bass, warmth and liquidity into the A700 sound though it loses those razor sharp imaging from all-digital source. Intimate vocal music really shines with the mp701 tube sound.
I am still not sure if I should go with the A500, where I saw some reviews and I know they are worth it, or jump up to the A700. My room is pretty big too.
If something has to do with missing midbass it’s certainly your room acoustics/ or speaker design. The SB drivers in this construction need about an hour of heavy exercusion (in bass) and they’re pretty much settled in. (80% of xmax) You can make this quicker (especially for midrange driver) that you push it in with your fingers a few times to massage the suspension if you’re worried they’re not ”broken in”... Don’t think it will change dramatically that’s what i’m saying.
The small one by the vinyl records is the SMSL M500 DAC. RPI4 with Ropieee is connected there via USB and DAC feeds to the MP701 tube preamp. Farthest left is CD player, connected via SPIDF to the Platin stereo hub.
Most likely I won't be able to compare them side by side. My educated guess - I think on grand scale, the A700 would be better on filling larger room, better bass. The A500 perhaps is better at "disappearing" act in a room. Since the A700 has dedicated midrange and woofer drivers, it may have lower harmonic distortion. Again, these are just conjectures though.
Interesting and honest soundtest, result seems little bit bright but impossible to known if its due to recording or audio system. If you want to accelerate breakin you can use JMR rodage footage jm-reynaud.com/jmr-magic-cd.html?___store=en&___from_store=default, it is very efficient.
The tunings are literally rewriting the book on what speakers ( powered or not) are capable of.
Zeos’ review of the bookshelf is freak’n awesome 🤣🤣
I myself am currently in the market (and SERIOUSLY looking) at the A700s... Thanks!!! This just gave me the confirmation 🤙🏻🤙🏻
My search just ended. I'm placing my order with Buchardt for the A700s. Great video!
Ha ha. Hopefully you won't make me feel guilty. I feel the same. I think I'm gonna make a video titled "A700 - my end game audio" :)
@@NoStereoNoLife No...don't worry.
Hopefully I won't have to wait that long (like you have) before my set gets here. Looking forward to see that video! 🤙🏻
They really are an end game product given you can just use your streamer and them with a great outcome.
That was fabulous. There's a guy zeos on utube and he as done a sound demo with the A500 bookshelf and sound amazing.
Nice demo, really appreciate your work to record this for us. Can you please share your experience how the speakers are doing now after breaking in and the mid-bass slam?
The Buchardt's are just a spectacular speaker. Once you've changed the tuning to the Theoretical setting it's no contest for me on what speaker is the most exciting and energizing. I've not found much that I like more without a sub as I enjoy a nice bounce when listening to music. Good thing I live in a house so I can appreciate them on the level they deserve.
Cant wait to hear more demos after break in period. Sounds good as is with only 8 hours. I can only imagine what it will sound like later. Inconceivable!
It's quite difficult on weekdays to find time to record since the kids are in their zoom classes. For now, I've managed low level listening session.
@@NoStereoNoLife understandable. Not sure if you give opinion on this but I wonder how they compare to other similarly priced speakers. It's about $7.6k usd for the bundle set. Pretty steep but could they be the end game for some people?
MULTIPLE MASTER TUNINGS!!
Now this is cool and unheard of in the industry! With the flexibility of such powerful DSP, we are in complete control of what we want the speaker to do. This means, that we will provide downloadable master tunings to completely change the fundamentals of the speakers sound design.
So what does this mean? (A500 is the explained example here)
The standard master tuning the speakers come with, is a 2.5 way design, tuned to 25hz straight with a variable bass tuning. This means, if you play at 100dB, you can't expect two 6” woofers to generate 25hz. The system will then smoothly set the bass tuning higher, so the woofers don’t break. We think this is the best overall tuning for most people.
But what if your needs are different? What if you rarely play loud? Maybe you live in a smaller apartment where SPL is not important to you? Then download a different master tuning from our website - copy the master tuning file onto a USB key - place the USB key in the USB port on the back of one of the speakers (when it's turned off) - turn it on - remove the USB key and repeat this process on the other speaker. Boom! you now have a speaker that is configured as a 3 way design, that is tuned to 20hz instead. A true full range compact speaker, perfect for small apartments!
What if you want something where deep bass is not important, but SPL is? Maybe you want to use subs with them? Same thing; download a different master tuning that do just that.
Here, only your imagination is the limit. We are experimenting with Cardioid tuning, semi Cardioid tuning, optimized nearfield tunings for professional studio use and much more. Have any great ideas? Let us know. We wish to make the most flexible speaker in the world. A speaker that we can keep on improving, even long after its release.
(Different tunings for the A700 is also being developed, more information would follow).
Upcoming solution for your mid-base problem. 🙌🏼
Sounds very good on my headphones. Thanks for your first impressions!
You're welcome!
Sounds amazing.. and what a great space.. / treatments.. !
Great impression. How are these now? Considering these myself…
Thank you for the great videos and demos! After some research, I am totally convinced about the Buchardt speakers. Only I hesitate between the A500 and A700 and I do not have the knowledge of an audiophilel :). I want the speakers in our living room. This is 5.4 meters by 3.9 meters. The speakers are in the width in front of the seat (3.9 meters). The distance when I sit in my seat to my current speakers is about 2.8 meters. I listen mostly to quiet rock and like deep voices (The National, Leonard Cohen, ...).
My questions: what am I missing if I buy the A500 and not the A700 (I really have FOMO!)? What is the difference in sound between these speakers?
Are floorstanding speakers always better then bookshelves?
Or will the A700 be overkill in this space?
FOMO? oh definitely get the A700 lol. The main difference is just the low end which is quite stunning if you play music with those freq range. I think the A700 also has an advantage having vertical imaging. I just experienced this last night while playing random music.
The A700 is not really that big and it takes the same space as the bookshelf (with stand), and with the LLE feature you can still enjoy listening at lower volumes. We have about the same room size, the A700 is a good fit.
The first time I heard Liberty it blew me away on Tidal.
These and the A500's are dependent on the software provided in the master tunings. I had the A500's but the software was going through some problems and I gave up and sent them back just about the time they apparently straightened things out. I would want to know what state that software and hub to send it is in for the A700's before taking the plunge. And you can't demo these at any dealer since they are direct to customer. Its quite a risk but a tantalizing one. Lets get some more reviews and comparisons out there soon.
Sounds indeed very good on headphones. How did you actually record this so nicely? And what was that last song?
I use Shure MV88 mic for IOS. The last song is "Liberty" by Anette Askvik. The atmosphere of that song is incredible.
Thanks, sounds indeed remarkable to say the least.
Dang sweet sound! Sooo clean and clear! Now all I need is to find and join a crew that does La Casa de Papel to have the moolah to buy.🙏🤓🤑🤔🧐🤩😎
Absolutely love them!
Nice
I'm sold! I need those in my life!🤩
Go for it! Ha ha.
Thx for sharing - let us know if bass gets sorted as they burn in.
Sound absorber panels: which are those at your back wall?
It turned out there was never issue with the mid-bass slam. Probably just in my mind getting sensitized of listening. Watch the Drum demo. Those at the back are cheapo "Dekiru" Sound absorbing panels from amazon. Oh, the square white panels just behind the speakers are from "UA-acoustics".
These panels? ua-acoustics.com/acoustic-panels/panel-wave
I got question regarding having an external amp already (Hegel H190).
So if i buy these speakers and connect to amp via XLR i will loose Buchardt room correction DSP only, but i still get master tunings?
Have you tested with room correction already and is it useful?
Why i ask is because currently i have 70% music listening and 30% watching movies (5.1.2 setup). For movies is use tower speakers via receiver preout to my Hegel amp.
So if i would connect A700 speaks to Hegel that gets signal from receiver, will that not conflict with Buchardt DSP when watching movies?
It sounds amazing, can i ask what are you using for server/player ?, thanks !!
I use Roon server on Windos10. My endpoint is on RPI4 (RopieeeXL) with SMSL M500 DAC.
@@NoStereoNoLife Do you get a different sound using an external DAC (better), even when all is re-digitalizing inside the Bruchardts DACs ?
@@NoStereoNoLife Switching power supply's are very noisy, BUT your endpoint is not noisy at all, at least what i listen from here, are you using any special LPS for the RP14 and SMSL DAC or just plain walmart ?, Thank you
I"ll be interested when they make the usual rounds of the hifi community... Sean @ ZF hated the Buch A500 as they did not meet his expectations at all. I think the A700 likely show the full potential of the tech that Mads is working on but that price is a bitter pill to swallow. Especially with class d amplification... I guess we'll see how the master tunes work out as well as the room correction success people have via their iphone microphone.
Some really don't like active speakers and Class D amps like the Audiophilliac too.
What does breaking in actually entail,
like, how long and what do you do?
Do you play music continuously for like 30hrs at a normal ‘background music’ level or... also is that black little box the amp?
I’ve never had new speakers before, only previously owned speakers, which needed no breaking in.
They look amazing, btw!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! If practical for you - yes, continuously; but for me it's only when convenient. Just play music at normal level preferably the ones that can exercise/move the woofers. The black little box is the stereo hub that sends wireless signals to the speakers. If you have preamp you can connect to the speaker via XLR cable. The A700/A500 have their amp built in inside the speaker.
My living space is double what you said yours is. 11X8 with a 4.5 ceiling height. Think the a700s will fill the space?
Yes. You probably end up higher on volume level.
sorry for all these questions but im genuinely interested in these now. On the stevie ray vaughn song, are the guitar strings really forward and in your face ? Could you turn it up and it would still be tolerable? I ask because i had bw 702s2 and on songs like that they instruments were so forward it was like they were in your ears, so i couldnt even turn the volume up because it would be way too strident, not balanced...Was curious if these are balanced and in the ballpark of neutral or are they voiced forward and sometimes in your face?
Just listened louder like you said. lol I got mesmerized on the dynamics of strings moving left right, getting forceful and lighter. Same with the drums. It's not in-your-face forwardness, it's enveloping and the sound seem to come forward at times the sound get's louder, that's all.
Congrats ! Are you planning to pair the mp701 with the a700?
That's the plan! I just tried them and the mp701 brings more bass, warmth and liquidity into the A700 sound though it loses those razor sharp imaging from all-digital source. Intimate vocal music really shines with the mp701 tube sound.
@@NoStereoNoLife nice , good to know that the non grounded XLR output of the MP701 works well with the a700, no audible hum?
@@tzenlip There is normal hum from tubes. Only heard when you're 1ft from speaker.
I am still not sure if I should go with the A500, where I saw some reviews and I know they are worth it, or jump up to the A700. My room is pretty big too.
If your room is big, go with the A700 :)
If something has to do with missing midbass it’s certainly your room acoustics/ or speaker design.
The SB drivers in this construction need about an hour of heavy exercusion (in bass) and they’re pretty much settled in. (80% of xmax)
You can make this quicker (especially for midrange driver) that you push it in with your fingers a few times to massage the suspension if you’re worried they’re not ”broken in”...
Don’t think it will change dramatically that’s what i’m saying.
Thanks for the tip!
@@NoStereoNoLife I really wouldn’t advise this. Just allow the speak to naturally become pliant. I have never heard anyone recommend this.
What are the components on the left side and center of you cabinet and are they connected to the speakers?
The small one by the vinyl records is the SMSL M500 DAC. RPI4 with Ropieee is connected there via USB and DAC feeds to the MP701 tube preamp. Farthest left is CD player, connected via SPIDF to the Platin stereo hub.
My 401K balance is about 8000$, do you think I have enough to afford it?
Ha ha, don't use that. Use your pandemic relief. It helps the industry and economy lol.
What was that song with cello. I like it
Chasing the Sun by Montana Skies
What's the song that starts at 39secs?
Chasing the Sun by Montana Skies, Jonathan Adams
@@NoStereoNoLife Thanks
Can you compare these to A500s?
Most likely I won't be able to compare them side by side. My educated guess - I think on grand scale, the A700 would be better on filling larger room, better bass. The A500 perhaps is better at "disappearing" act in a room. Since the A700 has dedicated midrange and woofer drivers, it may have lower harmonic distortion. Again, these are just conjectures though.
WowOnWow
Interesting and honest soundtest, result seems little bit bright but impossible to known if its due to recording or audio system. If you want to accelerate breakin you can use JMR rodage footage jm-reynaud.com/jmr-magic-cd.html?___store=en&___from_store=default, it is very efficient.
Hifi and active speakers dont go well. We need boxes and wires in between them. This is not that
lol I was so proud showing my wife the pile of cables I removed when I setup the A700.
Why post this?
I envy you :(