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Buchardt A10 Active Speaker's 28 Hz BASS Will BLOW YOU Away!
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
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Some very special features of the A10 are not covered here. With the hub, you can do room eq (some people would pay 500$ or more for that feature) and you can add your specific very precise Eq on top of the room eq and the master tuning... so when Steve says that the warm master tuning is too much for him, he could have fixed that with eq... maybe not for everyone but very powerful features!
So testing the Buchardt A10 without taking a direct digital signal in. Converting from digital to analogue and getting the speaker to convert to digital for DSP does not seems the best use case. Great when your source is analogue, a reel to reel or LP but must suffer something in the multiple conversions when the source is already digital.
A benefit from Buchardt is the return policy. You can test them out at home, get the high level of support if needed and make your mind up with no pressure. If you don't like them you return them and get the A700.
What is often missed is that the electronics can be removed and replaced by the user. So if it does fail, as most amplifiers will sometime you only have to send off the box of electronics, not the full speaker. Potentially this also means if WiSA is replaced or other changes in DACs you can get an upgrade without having to replace the whole system. Just as you can with separates.
So basically based on Steve, these speakers are "gorgeous", "amazing" "cool" "percussive" "incredible" from a "really small speaker" and when listening to one of his favourite Bob Dylan tracks, the A10 let him have a good time with it. Wow. Can't wait for my pair. Mads is working some magic over in Denmark. Thank you Steve for a really lovely personal and explorative review. Always appreciated.
Well ... long before the A10 you know, there was a Radio Shack speaker known as the Realistic Minimus-11 and it had superb bass using its own, Hitachi made System Eeven receiver, the STA-11 that had what we called 'a sub-bass excavator' - something like Loudness, or as harman/kardon called it in the 1970s, 'Contour' ... only the excavator boosted up to +12dB in the lower frequencies, so much more than Loudness. These were 8-ohm speakers but only 86dB SPL, for 1 watt. These are awesome speakers at a low price as found on internet auctions.
@@KillianMcBride This guy and his Radio Shack gear are like trying to get rid of a bad penny. If it's a joke I ain't laughing...
@@rtfloneI know, right? If I didn't know better, I'd say pay him no mind and he'll go away, but no such luck I'm afraid...
@@KillianMcBride
😂 read my mind
Who's Mads?
Love your work Steve!! The content just keeps getting better and more interesting.
So far I spent more than $25.000 on equipment, and have a lot of friends who spent even more, $40.000 - $50.000 on gears, and we are always in doubt did we chose the best combination, other words a did we find the great synergy between separates . I am in this hobby for decades and somehow getting full of manufacturer’s B/S and really thinking on to get rid of separates and give a try to active speakers. P.S I already have S400 MK2, but they’re not great match with my $10.000 power amp in pure A class :) but they work much better with $4.000 power amp in A/B class 😊
I agree
PLEASE check out the A500.! I sold off the amps, the pre amp, the wires and lead a much simpler musical life. Instead of playing with gear, I play with the master tunings. Don't forget they have room correction that is based in the streaming hub.
Thanks for this great review again, but Steve, though interesting to use your preamp.. I think it would have been great to use these speakers as they are meant to be used: in Wifi mode, and see what the result is. I use analog, but I can understand that someone can build an all digital ( up to the speakers drivers..) system, and that makes sense equally. Otherwise, it's a great review. I think I'd lean toward the passive version as well, but that's a matter of taste. It's nice to have the choice.
Steve Huff thought they sound better using the wireless hub compared to using his quite expensive preamp & dac.
I enjoyed Steve's analysis of the differences between active and passive speakers in this video. I've had years of experience listening to excellent active speakers in a studio situation-mostly Genelecs. But I do prefer and mix though passive speakers because I find them to have more sonic depth and musicality. On the technical side, I do believe active speakers seem to compress sound making music sound flatter with less dimensionality. It is probably more useful for engineers when tracking to use active speakers for the increased precision and detail (they are good for hearing flaws in the recording) but for the average serious listener, I would certainly recommend a high quality amplifier paired with passive speakers to get the most enjoyable listening experience.
It's just because you used Genelecs, they have no depth.
Have you tried ATC actives ? As long as the electronic pre-amp dac etc are high end, the sound is great
I note their use of Ash wood for the cabinet with great interest... Ash and Hickory are the wood of choice for hammer and mallet handles, because they damp out impact better than any other woods!
Very interesting
I own A500’s. I live in Japan in a smaller apartment. I love my A500. I believe I have them set up for more detail. A great product.
Excellent review as par for the course.
I have to say, I was very impressed with the Audio System of the Day. That turntable really caught my 👁️
You missed the point of the DSP built into the system which is that it can be tuned to exactly replicate any sound stage from any other speaker. The A10 represents the beginning of the end for hifi separate systems. Those two boxes and a hidden streaming box can literally meet all your listening needs. It actually is the universal speaker, you just haven’t realised it yet!
I Agree!
I'd like to see how these stack up to the Dynaudio Focus 10s
I'm only interested in active speakers. This was right in my wheelhouse.
Bob Dylan is still alive ! Thanks for the update
Ive owned the A500 and currently own S400 mk2.
Based on your review, I hope the company isn't taking their sound in a new direction.
I love that warmish sound that they had, as I listen to a lot of rock that isn't exactly audiophile quality. Sounds like these speakers and this type of sound might not be for me.
One of the Master tunings will fit your needs and it does not end there more will come. I would likely use the A500 without covers but that bass unit is not "pretty" I would use the covers.
I have A700 -great sound, but still use a SVS sub to achieve high SPL , even though A700 have tremendous bass Try a sub with A500
Color Me Impressed that Steve used Hootenanny as a test album.
That's a beautiful viewer system. I'm sure it sounds amazing.
Thanks for the kind words, I enjoy listening to it as much as staring at it 😅
I have a small room (approx. 10'x13") and would like to get as much low frequency information as is practically possible during playback. Current system is:
Esoteric K-01xd cd player
Esoteric C-02 preamplifier
Auralic G1 streamer
Buckeye ET 7040 SA mono block amplifiers
WATT Puppy 7 speakers
Many recordings sound great with this system in the small room, but it's sometimes seems that this is too much for the room to handle. The A10 speakers w/their on board amps would take up A LOT less space and cost a small fraction of what's currently in the room. Curious about what sort of trade offs might be heard by going with an pair of A-10 speakers.
With this speaker is great that for 4100euros (hub included) is all you need. No preamp, no DAC no cables. And still have options how to experiment with sound.
Hi Steve, another great and interesting video, the passive speakers are also great . Regards mark
A10 is in direct competition with the Servolab Grown/Up. It's also an active speaker with fantastic bass. I heard it in a small room at an audio show. The bass was deep, powerful and fast.
Thanks for the review and your effort. I respect your work but let me be a little critical. What sense does it make to test wireless speakers using wires and compare them to passive speakers with much more expensive electronics? Should the viewer really consider your conclusions?
What does the connection between speakers have to do with amps and such? In any case, a wired connection, while less convenient than wireless, will provide a better signal.
Why use an external DAC, and then convert analog to digital again inside the speaker? No matter how good the DAC is, is not the shortest path for the digital signal. Why not use the HUB spdif in, I have the A700
In 52 years of trying and buying and dreaming of finding hifi that’s perfect it never happened waste of time and a hobby I shouldn’t have gone into. The more technology evolves the more expensive and stupid it becomes. I’ve now resorted to my problem get off the merry go round. It’s took 52 years. Good luck to anyone trying to find audio nirvana. Have fun. First it was the michel gyro sec then the nakamichi dragon then tannoy dual concentric then £300 cable. I gave up and brought a wiim amp and mission speakers and an old rel earthquake sub that’s me done till I die no more overspending. TVs are the same from co ax to scart lead to hdmi to soon to be replaced module changing I guess like computers. Never ending. Strange I think mobile phones have ruined immersion in music swipe swipe swipe never getting engaged in the music. My friend has an rca victor hmv music system 1950’s he’s 84 he still loves it. He’s happy. I sometimes think it should all be about the music not the gear. 😮
Right! So extra special thanks for being here watching my channel!
I wonder how the Missions sound compared to the A10s?
USB Configuration: The A10 includes a USB Type-A port for installing configuration files called “Mastertunings,” which optimize the built-in DSP unit for specific placements or sound preferences.
Yes, and I use them during the test, in the video
This woofer is a special one! Reminds me of the ProAc Response 2.5’s textured paper woofer.
It's made by Purifi, and is designed for super low distortion, especially at high amplitudes. That's why it sounds so clean.
@@Sparta155why do they look chewed up?
How's the sound character compared to Dynaudio Heritage Special?
System of the day is an absolute beauty.
Thanks for the compliment! I have worked so hard over the years to slowly put that system together piece by piece. It’s a hobby of passion for sure 😊
@@kristiankataila4052 The passion certainly shines here-must sound trancendant!. A friend also as an older Chord SPM 1200 and just upgraded to the same speakers. Unfortunately they were shaking the house to bits and we ended up trying out some Townshend Audio podiums under the the speakers-it is a two man job!
The improvement in performance was amazing. Decoupling off the wooden floor immediately stopped all the floor, room, building resonances. But, more importantly, the bass was faster, tighter, more layered and textured. The mids were more defined, voices popped more and the highs were sweeter and cleaner. And the soundstage just expanded in all dimensions. We were very impressed- l already use the speaker bars myself on more modest speakers to great effect-and happier downstairs neighbours. If you get the chance give them a try-I think you'll be surprised how much more the B&W's have to give....Have fun!
Cheers from Sunny Scotland.
Very nice review Steve! This pair as well as the Genelac G3's are on my shortlist. Outside of the deeper lower frequency response of the A10's (that unfortunately isn't a benefit for me due to space) what are the differences in midrange and high frequency from your aural memory? Is one more refined/detailed than the other? Any insight is much appreciated!
If I were to purchase a new amp and speakers, what would be a good percentage split of my budget for each? Spend equal on both? More on an amp? More on speakers? 🤷♂️. I know 'it depends', but roughly?
Thanks Steve ' Active speakers are very convient and they have came along ways in Sound Performace '
Steve, do you think that these would “work” in a large room? 20 feet wide X 30 feet deep X 9 feet high. MLP will be 10 feet.
The woofer reminds me at Wolf von Langas amazing Serendipity Speakers
I think someone had something similar in their car at the gas station. The bass was shaking the metal roof above the gas pumps.
Hi Steve, great video as always. Glad to see your reviews of active speakers. I recall you reviewed/ commented on BW Formation duos a while back. Can you comment on your impression of Duos ( from your memory of course) vs. A10? Thanks.
Sorry, the B&Ws made no lasting impression!
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliacthank you for your response.
Not the same feature set, even though they might be for your usage. A10 will scale up to surround using WiSA in a 5.1 or 7.1 set up. B&W Formation Duo will not work with video sources, latency issues, can not be paired up with Bar, Bass and Flex for surround.
Buchardt direct to customer means that they sell for about 30% less than through a dealer net work and would then be priced higher than the Duo. If you are only interested in stereo and only in audio then only you could decide with your own ears. In isolation I doubt that ether would disappoint.
@@geraldmcmullon2465 thanks for your reply. All valid points. I am primarily interested in 2CH stereo. Have the ability to extent to 5.1 is a nice feature to have(although no reviews I have seen have covered this as a possibility or how this can be accomplished).
I have heard by buddies Duos and was really impressed with them for their bass extension, imaging and sounds staging. Was curious if anyone had experience with both and can comment on it for sound quality and listening experience.
Steve Huff preferred the sound with the hub and not through his pass labs pre.
Hi Steve, edgy (A10) vs sweet (S400), it sounds like you're describing the A10's A/D & D/A converters (& Class D amps) impact on the sound?
This brings a second point, with these highly integrated solutions, with no possibility of substitution, how does the audiophile determine what is causing their like or dislike of the sound? In other words, how do you smartly move on from the A10 if you feel the need?
The master tunings give a lot of scope for tweaking.
Do you think that you can find a magic combination of preamp, DAC, power amp and passive speakers to tweak better than the design engineer in the lab who controls the circuit design, the software and every part of the design to get the best out of the speaker?
Even if you have a dealer shop full of hundreds of alternatives it would drive you crazy finding that tiny tweak if it was even possible.
Only "big" jumps in cost get those clear improvements but the 80:20 rule hits hard. Sure you can pick up difference easily but better for all the music choices, at the same price range, is another thing.
@@geraldmcmullon2465 + 1 . So far I spent more than $25.000 on equipment, and have a lot of friends who spent even more, $40.000 - $50.000 on gears, and always with doubt did we chose the best combination other words a did we find the great synergy between separates . I am in this hobby for decades and somehow getting full of manufacturer’s B/S and really thinking to get rid of separates and give a try to active speakers. P.S I already have S400 MK2, but they’re not great match with my $10.000 power amp in pure A class :) but they work much better with $4.000 power amp in A/B class 😊
John Darko recently raved about these speakers, as well! Madds has got it going on…I am sitting happy with my DynAudio Contour 20s, here…manufactured just down the street from Bouchardt's Headquarters…(Madds old employer I think)….would love to hear a comparison of my Contours to the S400 MkIIs 😮…interesting that Steve prefers the passive Buchardts…🤔
All the flagship speakers from Dynaudio are amazing. I don't think the Buchardts are really better, only different, but in the same league.
Did you ask Burchardt if there is aprogram to make the A10 sound like the S-400?
Heyyy cool! I actually want to buy these when I have the money for them!
Am I reading their measurements on their site correctly? 55dB SPL +/- 1.5 dB per volt at TEN meters?! TEN?!?!?
Interesting but loudspeakers last a long time I wonder if actives will last long. They are similar to powered subs and those fail mostly from amplifier death.
Yeah, that's why i don't mess with uber expensive active speakers or subs. 4k for many is an end game price, so imagine your end game 5.1 years in ends up a paper weight forcing you to figure out how to do biamping with dsp, but at least that's always an option for active speaker and sub owners. You can always add binding posts and bypass the plate amps and learn how to do an active crosssover w/dsp. A sub just needs an external amp.
Always this argument from passive fans… You just need to buy from the established Brands who build actives not only because its a trend - Neumann, Genelec, ME Geithain, ATC all Manufactures where you can send your stuff in when youve peoblems. And who says your external amplifier doesnt fail ? Its all Electronic parts who can last a lifetime or can get a defect. I would even say that there are actives out there wich have 3-4 times the runtime as most Home Hifi Setups and still havnt any problems. If there was a major problem with defective power amplifiers, the brands i mentionend (and other establ. Active Brands) would no longer be on the market
These A10's don't generate as much heat as the A500's and should last rather long.
I used to have huge friggin' active floorstanders of JBL and they lasted 2 decades before a condensator of one failed and it had to be cleaned up on the inside. After it got a new conensator it worked as good as new again.
@@vtkz What if I prefer using different amplifier types like SET, class A, OTL, PP tube etc. How does an active help me with that? Also can you list the actives that last 3-4 times longer than audiophile HI-FI systems? Thank you.
@@MarcelNL A small speaker with a small cabinet puts amp DSP etc right were it would see the most vibration. I have seen actives that have amp etc not installed in cabinet. This is how I run my active systems.
DAC and DAC again ?
You should try out the Buchardt A500SE Special Edition. This has the same woofer as the A10 but has the original soft dome tweeter.
I'm wondering Steve if you let the a-10s break in longer that would have affected the sound in your comparison to the MK 400
Is this the first-ever speaker with pure path digital amps(power DACs) and digital crossovers, with no digital-to-analog conversion before the PWM stage?
thanks steve!!! nice!!!!
Nice review. I'm using the 400mkII on my moon ace. I feel the same way as you discribed the 400. Why did you not use the s400 master tuning to compare the 10 to the 400? Great review as always
Do those passive speakers have mastertunings?
The A10’s have a S400 m.t.
@@MarcelNL nope only the active ones
Ahhhh wait, you meant that the A10 has a master tuning which mimics the S400? @@Oban66066
This seems like a studio monitor marketed for hifi…Steve was kind to avoid using the word analytical 🧐
What would be the argument for coosing a small speaker that sound like a larger one, instead of just choosing a larger one? If you factor in the cost of the advanced design and some speakerstands, the floorstander migt be cheaper after all.
The A700's are floorstanders but with their previous technology and the sound signature of the smaller A500's is exactly the same as that of the A700's. The A700's can just go louder.
I am sure they will make a floorstanding version of the A10 not long from now, but that most likely won't sound better, it just can go louder than the A10.
In multiple reviews people say that these things have the best bass they have ever heard of a speaker in this size, or in any size for that matter.
I haven't heard them myself yet but I am more than enthousiastic to buy a set!
because larger speaker are not solving problems and def not sound better. It always matter what gear you use. Booksehlfs / Compact + Subwoofers & DSP are the way to get the cleanest and best controlled lowend. The Midrange & Tweeter plays in most cases on the same internal volumen in Floorstanders. Of course they have more Bass (internal voume) but with subwoofers you can get a way better result + youve way better control over the lowend (roommodes). And when you do a lowcut between 80-100 Hz, why buying a floorstander
More or less distortion = subwoofers (more) versus woofers (less distortion). The small speaker with deep bass is called long excursion and the cone moves twice as far out only, as it approaches the end stop, the sound is muted quickly, so as Steve says they don't sound totally convincing compared to true woofers (but sub woofers are higher in distortion). The Realistic Minimus-7 woofer has always been cited as you know a 'Long Throw' design and strange because Radio Shack used to have Hobbyist speaker parts catalog with all the best stuff at a knock-down-price and a gold basket 1022A version of the Minimus-7 1218 woofer but only 55Hz-6KHz with 84dB SPL at 8 ohms. So you know that was THE BEST Minimus-7 woofer version and only 84dB SPL. But these are great speakers for small rooms.
@@MarcelNL Some report that a two way speaker sounds better than larger three way speakers. The more drive units the better the electronics has to be to control them, or at least becomes more complex. I have floor standing three way active speakers and am used to that arrangement - I am biased.
Buchardts are 2.5 or three way depending on the master tunings used. The A700 on paper have a lower bass than A500 so not only louder but deeper. Many people do not want floor stand speakers to dominate their living rooms even if on a stand bookshelf speakers take up the same room.
There are few reviews that compare Buchardt speakers with similar or larger floor standing speakers. One RUclips review set up €15,000 floor standing speakers which simply knocked everything out of the way but the A500 was well compared to similar sized speakers.
But did the Buchardts also knock bigger ones out of the way? Similar to those big floorstanders, or only speakers of their own size?
BTW I have had 4-way floorstanders with 200 watt active woofers. I absolutely loved those but they only went down to 32Hz and I really missed the deepest bass in them.
Had them for 2 decades though. (JBL S412PII)
@@geraldmcmullon2465
There is a master tuning to make the A10 sound like the 400 mk2
I see you were using your Jay's Audio cd2 transport again. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are using the mk 2. If you are I think a great video would be to obtain the Beatechnik upgrade kit which upgrades it to the mk 3 status. You could show the upgrade process and comment on the result. Something a bit different for the channel.
Well, well, well, gather 'round, y'all! Now, here's the thing about these here audiophiles, bless their hearts, they got their ears tuned finer than a fiddle on the Fourth of July! But here’s the hitch - when they start talkin' 'bout how this set of cans or that fancy speaker sounds, it's all tangled up in their personal reckonin's and feelings. Yes, siree, it's as subjective as sweet tea recipes at a state fair! Now, on the flip side like a catfish on a hot skillet, you got them reviewers measurin' sound more scientifically, diggin' deep into them frequencies and decibels like they’re prospectin' for audio gold! They ain’t swayed by the siren call of fancy brands or the smooth talk of pricey tags. Nope, they stick to the cold, hard facts, as unyielding as a granny's pound cake! Their tools? More precise than a moonshiner’s still! They measure all them peaks and valleys in the sound, flatter than a pancake on a Sunday mornin'! And why, you might ask, does this matter more than a possum in a pickle jar? Well, darlin', it's 'cause when you're investin' your hard-earned greenbacks, you want the true-blue, no-nonsense, objective truth. You want measurements you can trust clearer than the water in a mountain stream, not just how somethin' tickles someone’s fancy or ruffles their feathers. That way, you know you're gettin' the real deal, as solid as a handshake in the olden days. Yeehaw! 🤠
Since there’s ADC, it almost seems like wireless is the right way to go here and skip the extra conversion step? Maybe that’s a missed opportunity. Does the wireless module have Qobuz connect, etc?
Thanks!
Not in the speaker. The streaming services are from the hub. Buchardt supply the Platin hub. with Chromecast / Google cast, Apple Airplay2, Roon ready, Spotify Connect, Bluetooth,
DLNA UPnP. But there are other hubs WiSA transmitters that offer different services.
Anyone have idea on the amp and dsp used in Buchard
I've heard good things about the Cabasse Rialto... maybe try to demo one!
How do they get bass like that, it's easy. Build your speakers like Bluetooth speakers.
With quality drivers and crossovers
Buchardt is the United Nations of speakers
These sound as though they’d be good for mastering. Steve, what are your thoughts?
for. mastering :-D never ever. For Mastering you need something like a ATC or Strauss Monitor but not a consumer box like a buchardt
I was watching this video asking myself what's up with that woofer it looks like the surround is destroyed. Lol
Didn't you leave out an Audio Research component right under the turntable in today's system of the day?
That is the audio research 2se reference, was a hard piece to find !
Are these speakers Roon Ready?
I think so, check with the manufacturer. I didn't review them in that context
Should a 6.5" woofer really be used down to 28hz? I'd say no. There are many competent subs for that range.
Does SG become non-esoteric now?
Hi Steve,
Which color was your review unit? Very nice.
Thanks for watching, the review sample is charcoal.
I want it. Let me quickly go sell a wheel on my Porsche.
Amazing! Wish I could afford them😕
No amp, no DAC needed. The hub gives streaming services. Save in boxes, space and cost compared to separates.
Can this be used with vinyl? Usually Steve, your reviews include a portion using vinyl, so I am curious that you made no mention at all about whether it is an option hooking up a turntable or not.
Yes you can use a turntable, you can hook up any analog source to the a 10, at least one that has a volume control. I used a stereo preamplifier, which could have a turntable hooked up to it! But if you mean hooking up a turntable directly to the a 10 answer is no.
I use a Rega p2 with mine. Sounds good.
Better than the a500?
Better drive units so Buchardt think so.
Mads says it's a level up from A500
The wonderful world of dsp. Unlimited possibilities.
I wonder,,, when you compared the active with the passive Burchardt, you speak of small sound differences. Was'nt that the amplification? Because it was class A and class D.
Well, yes very different amplification creates a different sound. I think that's the point of going with passive speakers, you have many options. And of course the a 10 uses DSP that radically changes the sound of the speaker. Speaker buyers have options, passive or active. I'm definitely on the passive side.
I wonder what kind of Class-D amplifiers are in there? Hope they are not TPA3116 based.
That would be really weird. We are in 2024 now
The analog signal, if there is one.. will be converted? into a 192khz signal 24 bit. Okay, if I'm listening , on RUclips, with my headphones, I would say they sound a little bit ...hard?, harsh, very technical..You can't compare it with analog sound. Technic Beat or electronical musik they are amazing. I guess..
So for the extra money is it really worth the extra when compared to the klipsch nines at a much lower price? Seem their in the same weight class and bass response on the nines with the app and dsp is really amazing also, especially for the size.
The Buchardt are DPS active speakers. The Klipsch are powered speakers with all the electronics in one of the speakers, no active crossover, which is partly why they can be cheaper. The master tunings and DSP are not the same level. Klipsch are using HDMI and wifi. My limited experience with WiSA and wifi on Beolab 28 speakers is that WiSA is delivering orders of magnitude better sound than over wi-fi. I don't understand why that should be but as far as my set up it is. WiSA is in 6GHz with 5ms latency and wi-fi on the same 5GHz as phone, tablet, laptop and other speakers.
34-25kHz +/- 3dB is not the same as 28 - 40.000 Hz +/- 1.5dB (can change with Mastertunings)
I have no doubt that the Nines will offer a great performance. Only you can decide if any difference you can hear is worth the cost. Small improvements often come with exponential price increases.
@@geraldmcmullon2465 good points, just not sure it's worth the extra dough for just slightly better, I guess depends on the budget in that case.
My brother has some 9's and I like them a lot. I'm wondering if the A10s are that much better to justify paying so much more. Is the holographic sound stage and clarity measurably better on the A10s ? Do the A10s have as much headroom as the 9's?
@@TheSpiritVideo I can't say for sure, as I haven't heard the A10. I can say the nines beat all my top bookshelves fairly easy, the b and w 706 s2 (2400 new I believe), the 706 doesn't have much to give, too hot up top, no low end, but looks great. The real Rogers and chartwell LS3/5a, (both nearfield maybe LS3/5a preferred for some, have a very nice midrange, but no real low end, but very good nearfield low level listener), xls encores, revel Performa m106 flagship(very good) and the main ones I'll remember I liked the proac studio 2000 and had the response 1sc also, darker sound, great mids, kef ls50s original and meta (great nearfield and maybe the best imaging of all of the ones mentioned above), but still in the end, the nines were more capable in every aspect due to the new tweeters design and MUCH more low end like a floorstander and the DSP in the app changes the whole game, and they can get loud and rowdy if that's what you want. I wouldn't pick any bookshelf I've heard or had anyway over the nine for myself.
So you used wired connections. Does that mean you didn’t use the room correction software?
Correct I did not use Room correction. Not my jam, I'm sure many other reviewer's will cover that.
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac But why ? Youve so much advantages over setups who are not measured in via DSP / EQ. Specially to tune the systems how you like it
Thanks for the review! I'm considering getting these, would also have liked you to have tried the room correction feature...
If you use them passively, they're overpriced since you bypass a lot in the system that you do pay for.
But I can understand that some people do like a certain color in the sound of the equipment that they're used to.
By the way: if you use them actively, you don't need to use the room correction. You can switch it on or off with an app.
@@vtkzhe’s an og purist just like my boy Sean from ZF. No eq no dsp for them
what's the first album you are recommended??
Billie Ellish
Merci@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
Because they’re growers not showers 😂
That's what he said 😮
They just need warm-up time before they become Buchardt
It’s a blessing…and a curse. 😅
😂
Size does indeed matter. These will never match a larger cabinet or horn.
I think Devialet Phantom I goes down to 14 Hz. And that's a different kind of speaker 😂
And sounds plastic
These or the genelec g3?
G5
Active is where it’s at
Ordered 26th Aug. Still not sent :(
Buchardt A10 Active Speaker's 28 Hz BASS Will BLOW YOU Away!
DSP, that's how.
Please review the elipson 3210😊
Purifi stuff from Bruno inside, if you know you know
I don't think this review was informative enough, as the speakers weren't really used as intended. When an external DAC and amplifier are used which already color the sound to a certain extent and then convert the analogue to digital again, one cannot say how the speakers really sound with the original digital audio file directly transferred to the A/D converter in the speaker .
No external Amplifier was used here, nor is there any way to use any other amp than the integrated amps. I also don't think it's unreasonable for the Analog input to be used, especially in audiophile systems.
No amplifier is used. These are active speakers with amplifiers built in
When are we ever going to hear the equipment, Steve?
Never, sound demos are BS.
is that available in philippines? my hands is itchy on that spakers
Worldwide direct from Buchardt. No dealer network.
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Anyone know Steve’s shirt? It’s class A for sure 😊
That prolapsed woofer is gross 😅!
Very good review. Don’t like looks of this A10, low WAF. S400 mk2 seems better option here, soundwise and looks.
they’re basically indistinguishable with the circular grills on
@@BradleySpahn Defo need the grills on the A10.
Some say they sound better wireless, so that would have been very interesting
Yeah the hub does room correction and if you'd connect them straight, you bypass the integrated dac's which are pretty good.
There is a video of someone connecting a tube dac to a set of A700's and that made them sound a bit better to my ears.
But all in all; these things were meant to go with a hub like the one that you can pair them with in one purchase.
@@MarcelNL The analogue inputs convert to digital to pass through the DSP and DAC. Master tuning works with the analogue input.
I have Meridian D600 which is a dual design. The analogue is straight through only the coaxial used the DAC. Most wireless DSP speakers convert digital. B&O also do. Any WiSA transmitter will work and Buchardt have yet to offer a 5.1/7.1 hub or centre and sub-woofer.
I’d like to hear them
Direct order and if you don't like them you return them and get your money back. At worse case, for your pocket, you can't part with them otherwise a bit of repackaging.
for most people with neighbours heavy bass is not practical. I'm more than happy with KEF lsx 2 - incredible sound for something so small and great at low volume and if the neighbour is ever out unflappable at full blast.
You can keep the volume to under 70db. They don't have to be pushed up to 110db or what ever it is. At least you can use a master tuning to get the lower volume bass set at the right level unlike most systems where you don't have that control.
KEF LSX 2 are cute speakers for a desktop.
I can't imagine using the KEFs on a desk top unless the desk is about 30 feet square! @@geraldmcmullon2465
If the volume is under 70dB then the LSX2 will be fine as living room speakers too. I can get by with 3" woofers for most of my listening. @@geraldmcmullon2465
These things are 5600 dollars Canadian BEFORE tax or shipping or duties. No thanks. I may look for them on the used market but, at this price? I'd be looking at the Sonus Faber Duetto.
Definitely 💯 not my cup of tea 🫖
I think that future-fi is the implementation of frequency range assignment prior to amplification. Passive crossovers in the signal chain post amplification are outdated thinking. Nothing sucks the soul out of music more than a crappy looking cheaply produced passive crossover. Buchardt designs have superior passive crossovers, so why does Buchardt invest so heavily in active speakers, I’m thinking Buchardt understands the limits of passive crossovers all too well, so what makes the A10 stand out, is it the drivers, the class D amplifiers, nope it’s the signal processing! I think the recording process needs to change so that bass, midrange, treble are isolated channels on the format
The answer is simple : purifi drivers
At the asking price of 3,800 euros, I am hard-pressed to believe that it will compete with Magnepans for overall resolution and image size. Deep bass is cool, but it isn't really necessary for realism.
Um with your magnepan, factor in an Amp that has plenty of clean power, plus a pre Amp, dac, and streamer.
The A10 is plug into the wall and play...