FIRST LOOK: ALL-NEW 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona! | Saying Goodbye to the V8 Forever
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- The 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona has been completely reborn, trading its roaring V8 in favor of either electric or inline-six power. While we’re sad to see the V8 go, there’s a lot to like about the new Charger Daytona, from its (finally) extensively modernized interior to its surprising EPA-estimated range. Join Edmunds’ Clint Simone to learn more about the new Dodge Charger Daytona in this First Look video!
00:00 Intro
00:28 Powertrain
01:48 Exterior
04:19 Cargo
04:52 Interior
05:55 Battery, Range & Charging
06:55 Edmunds' Take
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Are you interested more in the electric Charger or the inline-six? Let us know in the comments below!
The hurricane ICE. 5900 pounds is crazy! Will be really hard on tires, not to mention handling.
Electric
inline 6 high output. Make it a "mild" (non-plugin) hybrid. Black on black. Price it competitively. Have it waiting for me to pick up at the dealership.
STOP pushing the gay agenda on us. Fire this queen and hire CAR GUYS or you're the next Bud Light
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And people were complaining that the old Challenger was heavy 😅
The old charger was even heavier
@@Bigbee_392 not at all
@@Bigbee_392 my ram 1500 truck is 5900 lbs and you’re saying the old charger was heavier than a ram truck? Lol
@@ItsAlive111I’m saying that the old charger was heavier than the old challenger
@@trewebster5884I meant the old charger was heavier than the old challenger
That exhaust simulation will be the perfect start to my day after I wake up in my pod that I don't own, finish my breakfast of bugs, and check my social credit score to make sure I am authorized to access public space that day.
You don’t own anything anyways
Even if you are free and clear of mortgage (which describes almost nobody) you only own the surface rights to the land, the house needs a massive amount of money to upkeep, then property taxes, municipal fees, utilities, insurance.. and when you die there’s estate taxes because the USA did not want to turn into Europe where a tiny elite had locked up all the land.
Did he say 5900 pounds!? It doesn’t matter how much ‘hp’ it has that’s 2,000lbs too heavy to have any sporty handling but that’s Dodge…hard pass!
Yea, 5,900 pounds…
Its an EV.. what EV is "light" Fast expensive heavy pick 2. The Taycan Turbo is 5,000lbs... Lucid is 5300. Weight is nothing if you have the traction and 1000hp+.
@@NXT_LVL model s plaid is 4,700# in some trims, model s lr will beat any of these except the banshee at 4,400# matching existing hellcat for weight.
And the model 3 performance is about 4,000# and will smoke anything in this lineup for 52k&available today except banshee trims. 👍🏻😎
Weight is nothing until you need to go, turn or stop. All the things a car does. @@NXT_LVL
@@4literv6 They must think the styling is going to sell it. Unless it's 45K or less, the Model 3 Performance is the smart buy. This is new for Dodge and I expect bumps in the road. Maybe start looking at it around 2030.
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I guess someone had to do it lol
I don't care how quick or fast it is. Losing the V8 is soul crushing. Thank God that Ford is holding out with the V8 and the stick.
The dark horse is the last one, they going green too lol
Within your lifetime you won't be able to afford driving a V8 anymore, it's going to be glorious, you'll actually preserve the planet for future generations!
@@JHunter_nah, they’re releasing a cobra next year lol
I make more than enough to buy and drive a new overpriced 3/4 ton truck, but I choose to drive an old jacked up good ole oil burning 7.3L F250 4x4. As well as an S550 GT with a manual and an early C3 Vette with manual. I will spend every dime I have and will have, if needed, to continue buying fuel for as long as it is produced. And when they stop, making fuel, I will make my own bio fuel for the 7.3L.
@@TheUrbanEpicure you better have a talk with the Largest polluters in the USA...... the Military/Government .... all the jets/massive ships/vehicles/ect -- SO they are telling you how you should change............But the largest government in history of Mankind ... NOPE
If you can change the growl button to a fart button i may be interested. A farting electric hatchback would be really cool
I mean it's a wind instrument that you could modfy or swap I guess... Though I hope they'll bring back the first one that sounded like the whisper death the M1 Abrams MBTs America's super tank eteheir as a mod or a limited edtion. Like turbines in ground vehicles are extremely rare and sound so good.
Damn a 6000 pound charger is absolutely mindboggling lol
for me a 6000 lb Porsche would never have my money. but we're America and muscle cars always have been heavy for what it's worth.
being heavy and bulky, but fast and low, is just the muscle car way
@@zacharyreynolds4303 I mean the og nascar Charger Daytona was also massive, fast over powerly so and weighted 3800 pounds... So yeah nothing has changed weight wise.
Now the name charger makes sense 😂
lol
I can’t wait to see this thing NOT sell
It’s gone sell to me lol I’m gone try be first to buy it and drive it lol
@@myshanspears3978You probably have no money at all from taking the bus😂.
I drive a white challenger for now I don’t take the bus sis yo momma takes the bus.
The Ford Mustang V8 is still in production with the legendary Coyote 5.0 engine. And they offer a Whipple supercharger from the factory capable of 800 crank hp.
For how long tho 😂
thanks FORD. V8 for your life electric for the waste. 🤣
All the ford hating inbreds are gonna have a tough choice buying a new “muscle car”
@@oswaldocastillo6305they said they’re gonna keep making ice though 😂
@@ericship8383 for how long tho LOL
This should be great for mustang sales
😂😂
Gonna hurt when those stangs get destroyed in performance. I’m not a fan of shitstangs but I’m not fan of these either. Guess it’s good I own a scat and hellcat 🤣
@@nicholaspoole8688 Lol this EV junker weight over 5900lbs that's SUV weight what makes you think it's beating a 3800lbs 24' Mustang 🤣
You're clueless asf first time joining the car world 😂
@@DS22723 guess we shall see. Also since your a ford fan how do you feel about that junker electric suv ford makes? Also how do like they refer to their own trucks as gay?
@@DS22723 yeah I’m pretty clueless how cars work I just have a 454 stroker scat pack and 950hp hellcat meanwhile you drive another basic mustang 😘
I want a big block not a slot car Idgaf about emissions
Mercedes proved with the c63 that horsepower isn't enough to overcome replacing a V8
The side profile is awkward and the ride height is making my nose bleed. There's definitely room for improvement here.
Looks like a camaro wtf
Breathe
They added a few centimeters to fenders above wheels, and changed the C pillar, also window shape is different and it broke the design.
Although lowered it should look nice
They smoothed out the arch bump in front of the rear wheel, probably for better aero, but that was the signature for the Challenger profile. I do think this new Charger looks great though, just needs to be lowered a couple inches. And I'd rather spend time in that interior over my spartan Model S P85.
5900 lbs?!?
Hahahahahahhahahhahaha. 🤣
This thing weighs more than my Dodge Ram 2500.
Nah your truck weights in between 6-7000 lbs bud. Might wanna do some research... Unless you drive one of those utter POS with a rotten wood bed, missing a fender... only gotta 1/3 of the front grill left... Then maybe 5900 weighs more... But only if your truck is a rotten POS.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 My truck weighs 5650 lbs as weighed on a vehicle scale. So need to research when I have first hand account measurements. But just to humor you, kbb listed my curb weight at 5,654 lbs….
No rust or missing panels. It’s just a rwd 5.7 liter gas engine, so lighter than other hd pick up trucks.
instead of speakers where the exhaust would be, I think I would brefer cooling outlets for the motors and batteries. having loud speakers to play a fake engine sound is like the *worst* of both worlds. no real engine sound while also annoying everyone around you as you drive.
Nah. I’ll take the speakers
The speakers making fake exhaust noise is soooo cheesy.
Its not just speakers outputting an electronic sound. It's a system like a pipe organ where accelerated air is forced through a network of pipes that give its sound. The speakers here simply amplify that mechanical sound.
There are no speakers there
It ain't fake engine sound. Hell, it ain't even trying to sound like an engine. You gotta let go of that elitism, dammit. Besides, when Hyundai came out with pretty much exactly the same feature on the Ioniq 5 N, literally no one complained. Yet when Dodge does it on the Charger EV, then it's a problem? Are we really that hypocritical?
The inline-6 with a manual and RWD would be a nice daily driver.
Hell yeah! Especially with suspension tweaks for handling….I’m in!!!
I thought the same. But apparently Dodge doesn't. I believe they said the I6 will be an AWD 8 speed auto
Not if you drive 40 miles to work in stop-and-go traffic.
@@justme307 and that's why there's the auto. If you don't live in hell that's when the manual would be a much more fun daily.
@@whattheduck4644it’s automatic with both awd and rwd
Mustang and Corvette owners are laughing their asses off rn. Probably the worst L that the mopar community has ever taken.
Lol same thing I thought, Dodge took a FAT L. I am buying a side car this year and atleast I know Dodge is off the list.
Oh yeah, Ford calls their Mustang Mach E a muscle car, and highly disagree. Imagine making a muscle car-SUV
Ford made the Mustang Mach e. A soccer mom SUV with a mustang badge. As a Mustang GT owner I don't laugh at the Dodge at all. At least it looks true to the historic models.
It has nothing to do with Dodge though it's Stellantis that's forcing them to stop V8 production
You guys better rush to the Dealerships to buy a new 2023 Challenger/Charger while supplies last. Remember, that beautiful sound generated by its V8 is NOT replaceable.
So the 670hp version has the same 0-60 and quarter mile as a Tesla model 3 performance with 500hp. They sure made a lot of decisions to hurt efficiency.
Exactly, and that is why this looks so wildly better and is endlessly more desirable than a shitty, generic Model 3 🙂
670 hp still gonna be gapped by 400 hp golf r/audi and b58 guys 😂
@@TheUrbanEpicure YEA ! BUY THE SIZZLE ...NOT THE STEAK !
@TheUrbanEpicure this looks terrible and most people would agree with that. Design is not only boring, but looks like a cheaper Chinese EV Challenger rip off
@@user-dt9jo8ho2q No, barely anyone would agree with that, you just have shitty taste 🙂
It has speakers to make engine noise? I too enjoyed putting playing cards in the spokes of my bike.
That car looks like a retro musclecar and I would drive a non-electric version of that. Looks like a modern 69 dodge charger
Sharing a platform for EV and ICE is a big compromise
I guess this will always be charging
something tells me the ICE engine addition is a late change in strategy with the slowing electric sales and Mustang monopoly in the segment
They realize they can't profit from their ev platform because it probably sucks compared to the competition
Reasonable theory until you remember they would have had to start from scratch to add ICE to an electric platform.
I've always read the hurricane inline-six would be an option.
There was always going to have an ICE version
The ICE was planned from the beginning.
I bet the tires will only last 10k miles. Way to heavy with a lot of power. And I bet the tires are 1k a set because of the speed rating combined with the load rating. Im good.
The service of this would be shit
this car will create its own type of customer just like the previous Charger & Challenger did
At least the Tyrons won't steal them
I doubt it, who is the target for this product? ....extremely heavy with poor efficiency, and also lacks the proper V8 these things are known for
What type of customer will be that be?
@@us1fedvet someone who is interested in an electric car that has the look & feel of a traditional ICE muscle car. it’s definitely not me, i’d rather have the real thing, but i don’t think younger people will care once they can afford these things.
@@qwntnqwntn they’ll never afford them.
The suspension needs to be lowered just a tad
I feel the opposite. Not everyone wants to scrape the ground all the time.
I agree! It would look much better lowered. Other than that; not bad looking at all! Oh and a Hemi swap...😁
@@aj_hlct6230 I agree as well. Suspension needs to be lowered at least a little bit. to me, it looks like a 4X4. 🤠
nope
Battery is there🤡
Let's see, almost 3 tons, and likely starting at $60k since most EV's are $10-$20k higher than a gas equivalent. I'll keep my 3,400lb Supra. Better power to weight and less money. BEtter than a cybertruck though....low bar I know.
Not sure why the car community acts like the Supra isn’t a 70k car, unless you’re telling me you got a 2020 salvage or the b48
your supra is not a supra
5900 lbs? That can't be correct, right?
Oh, it is
Its electric bro.
@@moeanthony9308 nah, still, 5900 lbs is too much especially for a car that size, can't weigh nearly as much as a RAM.
@@abetterworld96 As long as you are not planning to lift it, you should be good.
The Nissan Ariya AWD is 5,100 lbs and has a smaller battery. And is a much smaller crossover compared to this monster.
One can only hope the i6 version will come out much lighter than that.
5900 pounds is unacceptable. Wow. 1100 more than a model s?
are police departments going to use it? dying to see a cop version
This is 100% what I'm looking for. "Melted jellybean" is a good descriptor for a lot of EV styles. I want to see what kind of software and such it has, but a two-door sports/muscle car EV is exactly what I've been hoping for, especially if it's reasonably priced.
It look like they through some shit together
I hope the electric sales tank. Hopefully, the Mustang with a V8 will still out sell them 3 to 1 or more. Then by the refresh in a few years they bring the V8 back to try and save it.
The equivalent of someone hoping smartphone sales tank in the 2000s,we are in the middle of an ev evolution with massive leap in battery and electric motor technology.
@newguy954 until someone can make a 6 to 10 hour road trip in an electric car and have the recharge time not take any longer than trying to fill a gas tank, then absolutely no thanks. Then there is the sympathy coming from the exhaust or the fill of revmatching and changing gears. Anyone who doesn't want to preserve that feeling to the senses can not drive a stick or have always had boring vehicles their whole life. At the end of the day, we are all entitled to our own opinions, I just pray one of them keep that feeling alive.
@@davidlaboy5099 there's the upcoming apterra,which is an ultra efficient ev which impressed this sceptic of course it might not be your cup of tea
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@@davidlaboy5099 look up apterra it's an ultra efficient ev that would put even a Tesla to shame
@@newguy954 who buys a muscle car based on practicality? Unfair comparison
Idk the 4 door charger just looks like a stretched out challenger 💀 the 2 door was passable, the 4 door looks hideously inbred
NO V8 ?ARE YOU KIDDING ME JHHKJJHJKJJHJHHGHHJJKJJHHHHJ
If anyone was wondering.. the new s650 gt’s weigh in at 3,800 lbs and 480hp annnnnnd you get a V8 🤷🏼♂️😎
how long until the first one burn to the ground?
I'm most excited to see people hemi swap these things. Love the way it looks though! How the charger should have looked when it came back in the 2000s..or at least 2015 refresh
You'll be waiting for a long time for a Hemi swap. EVs are always heavy and I'm guessing these vehicles are expensive. Why not purchase a pre-owned Hemi challenge or Charger?
@@DWH300 Or just swap the ones the come with an engine
@@DWH300 Because this new car looks like the 68-70 Charger & the Challengers (RIP) already knocked it out of the park with the design looking like the original 70s models(so pretty much perfect already). The 2005-2023 Chargers are just cool, good / tough looking sedans.
@@TheSlow281 i remember Dodge was selling new 1969 Charger bodies. Do your swap in another year from now when the ice version is scheduled. I'm guessing you're looking at well over $100,000 for the car, engine and drive train plus labor
@@TheSlow281 Those EV cars are still prototypes. That's why you didn't see them driven or hear the fake exhaust tested. In any of the reviews. They're likely missing their Electric motors.
Are speakers replacing the exhaust
I dig it. I’m not against ev’s and this looks great. If the car drives well (ie that torque vectoring) and isn’t just a huge lump that goes fast in a straight line, I got no problems with it!
The fact that its 5900 lbs makes me think it will be exactly that, a fast lump.
@@dtw1622 trying to think of a Dodge that wasn’t built to go fast in a straight line
@@go_dawgs_8290 lol good point. Was the Dart supposed to be a hot hatch competitor??
I see why they didn't bring out the in line 6 along side this EV version and that's because the 6 will out sell it by miles which means low points for Dodge's Ev credits with Uncle Sam. And they know very few will buy the Ev over the ice version, which mean a bunch of Ev sitting collecting dust and low profits.
You got a good point if people still want to go broke servicing their combustion vehicles and commuting with gas for $1000/mo. For the money, this car will probably beat anything you can buy new.
But it’ll be nice as well to have a legacy hemi generation that becomes a true classic.
The new generation may not want the hassle of changing the brake pads and oil or visiting a gas station when they can plug it in the wall at home.
They just want to beat that pesky Tesla at the green light and look good while doing it.
@@Terrillthegreat79changing batteries and electrical issues is gonna be a bigger issues. With the fact that they're prone to more fires. Telsa doesn't even let you do work on your own car. U need to take it in for maintenance. So eat do you mean they don't want to deal with the issues of ICE cars? When they will still have even bigger and NEW problems which technology to fix them isn't here yet because evs are a new thing that the government is forcing.
Where is all this lithium supposed to come from? Strip mine the planet I guess.
Yep!! Its funny how none of earthers are upset about how the lithium is mined....smh
Well, some of the lithiums also used for your phone battery so...
@supreme_xenon yeah...40 to 60 grams for a phone vs 1000 lbs in a tesla 3. lol
So they went from 375hp in the rt to 420hp and awd and its only .1 of a second faster to 60
Weight
And probably slower in a roll with that weight
I don't want to be too much of a wet blanket as this is a major gutsy move by Dodge. That said, the looks scream "I regularly take steroids and I want to live in the 1970s!" The performance numbers so far aren't that impressive and that weight... Also, when you design a car to be powered by both ICE and electric, there have to be major compromises in design to accommodate both powertrains. Maybe that's why it weighs so much. Now, if they had done something like the Ramcharger pickup here with all electric drivetrain, but a V6 or I4 generator up front to range extend / provide extra power, that would have been interesting and maybe would have simplified the design.
Why wont they show us how it sounds on the road🤔🤔
Dissapointed. No V8 or manual transmission option means Im buying a Mustang GT when Im done with my current Scat Pack. I dont care about how fast the turbo six is. RIP Dodge. You turned your back on your customers
It looks like a Dodge Charger but no emissions (with the EV model) and plenty of get up and go, only thing is our 1/8Mile drag is at the Sechelt, BC Canada Airport and the insurers are still gun shy about electric vehicle fires damaging their runways even with a contingent vehicle extractor to prevent that from happening. Every year we have the Sleepy Hollow run during our drag weekend, this would make a very cool edition here where we were told, have the highest rate of EV's per capita then anywhere in North America! Sweet ride!
I'm just curious as to what happens with it after the rechargeable batter pack degrades.
I'm amazed those wheels and tires will be available on an EV. Not the most efficient for increasing range. At a time when EVs sales are crawling along. It will be interesting seeing the Charger EVs pricing. Seeing 670 horsepower in a nearly 6000 lb car doesn't excite me or does The 300 mile range. Stellantis goals are 100% EVs in Europe and 50% in the US. It will be interesting seeing how the US goal works out.
Looks good to me. No hate from over here. Job well done Dodge.
Looks nice until u pop the hood lmao
does RT still having fratzonic sound?
5900 gross vehicle weight?? No thanks! Wait for the 6 banger. They need a stripped down I6, so you can pull the motor and drop in a 426 Hemi!
I don't mind the look, I think it will grow on people. And sitting amongst other cars on the road it will stand out. Kudos to Stellantis for taking a different path here, sales will be the final judge.
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It's me, I'm the person this car is targeting. I've been wanting a sportier EV and they simply do not exist, especially not as two door cars.
Maybe there are more people like me out there, but I'm guessing they are few and far between and it won't sell well, but I'm happy lol
My HC challenger was a big car designed to look small. This is a bigger car designed to look like a bigger taller car? Idk about it. Maybe something you need to see in person
not with motor1 any longer?
They better come out with a hemi v8 version of these
They ain’t
Just engine swap the inline six
today Dodge died.
The ice car is already dead
Sure that’s why apple pulled out of the electric car endeavor 🤡 😂
Died in 1975, Died in 1989, Died in 1992 Died 1996-99 died 2002 died 2019/2020 died 2023... Every generation has that feeling. But when you get freight trained by a AWD EV Charger with 100hp more than the majority of the precious GENIII Hemi lol and you make the Tesla fanboys finally hush, youll learn to love the idea.
@@weroliera manufacturing good electric cars is hard, they spent billions and got nothing done 🤣
@@werolieraYou really want to use a tech company pulling out of a car industry endeavor as your example of the EV not being the future? Look at Tesla and most other car manufacturers lmao.
On the other hand, Stellantis/Dodge/Chrysler has been pissing away money for decades.
As someone who used to drive a challenger sxt plus in college， I just hope someone can import this to my region....
2:37 I cannot imagine that "R-Wing" will be present on the ICE version, right?
Not sure how I feel about the EV, but I’m interested on the performance stats of the inline 6 compared to the stats of the current challenger scat pack. Hopefully it’s lighter since it won’t carry batteries.
Is pricing gonna match the weight by a factor of 10?
A drift mode and a donut mode? Now that's what a charger needed
This thing weighs more than my F-150 Powerboost... Wow... Mooooo
The coupe looks like an old hotwheels car I had as a kid. It was a concept car they had teased in magazines. I love the look at least
It looks like they pulled the charger lx concept and called it new again as a production car. Google it .
I'm an EV person that grew up around muscle cars. My dad had a 68 Plymouth RoadRunner and lots of other stuff over the years. I have a Hyundai Ioniq 5 now and had a Kia Soul EV before that. I want this car. This is definitely my kinda EV. Taycan and Model S Plaid are not my style but this is.
I love electric cars for pretty good steering and acceleration. But nothing can replace flawless sound of V8, this is the history.
Bro the interior is just mind blowing 5:01 😮😮
I love it. I am an EV person but do like to the look of an American muscle car but I would never buy on. This will be on my list of ones to watch.
Over 5800 lbs?! How is that even possible on something that size? Is it made of tungsten?
They will likely sell a lot of them, but not in EV form. Most will choose the gas engine and 2 doors. EV battery pack makes the car too heavy to be a muscle car and much easier to mod a gas engine. Ford already proved this with the Mach E and Lightning. To sell now, they have to heavily discount them.
At least we know this charger would be stolen a lot less now 😂
I love THIS CAR. It looks good and the interior is a massive upgrade over the prior model.
I'm excited to see how the hurricane is in the 4 door. It is amazing how few AWD cars there are that put out good power. I'm glad that they finally worked the interior over. That was always a huge shortfall for the charger.
It just looks like they rushed this and put this together in 2-3 years given the stellantis merger
Why does dodge insist on a belt line that is as tall as a pick up truck?
I like it but the high ride height looks sort of strange.
Cadillac Blacking 4 door supercharged V8 with stick option is still in production! 680 hp
Wow I thought the Tesla truck was ugly, this one takes the cake!
Nah fam. I dig it. As a musician with a love for pipe organs this is amazing. I’d park it next to my 3500 HO Cummins and as a Cummins guy, I’m all for the hurricane engine too. Awd and a 4 door?? Winning all the way with me. I’d love to have one in the future
5900lbs?????????????
I love it. I think Dodge did a great job on the design and adding personality to an EV.
I am waiting for the 2025 bankruptcy edition 😂😂😂🎉🎉
I want the 4 door variant here in Germany! That weight though...
I think they have a STRONG muscular design that lets you know it’s a Dodge! I like it. Hope it can handle the mass!
It will be interesting to see the weight saving of the 6 cylinder version.
Finally its a "cellphone" charger 😅
EV aside, and design wise, this is my favorite body since they brought the charger back in the 2000s
The powershot button provides an extra 40hp for 15-30 seconds.
From what I saw in the release video from Dodge is the Daytona Scatpack stage 2 has a 335hp motor in the front and another in the rear to make 670hp.
So, without using the powershot button, does this mean you're driving around in Awd mode with 630hp and in Rwd mode with only 315hp for the Scatpack stage 2 with a max range in Rwd mode of 268 miles ÷2 = 134 miles in Awd mode?
• here's the numbers for the standard RT stage zero: 335hp -40hp powershot = 295hp, Awd ÷2=147.5hp in Rwd with 315mi range and 157.5mi range in Awd.
• The RT stage 1: 496hp -40hp powershot = 456hp ÷2=228hp in Rwd mode.
How much does this Battery Electric Vehicle weigh? 6,000lbs? With less than 150hp in Rwd mode, the RT stage zero may not be very exciting during those 315 miles of driving. The RT stage 2 would be a little better.
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The lighter weight Daytona SixPack with the hybrid Hurricane i6 with 420hp or the Hurricane i6 High Output 550hp will be the cars to wait for, Imo. The hybrid system may be like the eTorque in the Ram 1500.
I wonder how much power that 8 kilo is gonna put out.... and how much heavier its gonna be.
damn, the body lost so much retro flair, RIP
I don't think so I has a lot of the 66-67 Charger flair whereas the previous Gen had more of the 68-70 Charger vibe.
if anything gained, what are you talking about?
The interior is better, and the exterior looks good. But if the last one was a boat, this one is an ocean liner. It weighs soooo much.
This is a beautiful car. Those speakers better be pretty good. I’m talking 1970 426 hemi sounds.
I takes 10 seconds to decide.
Get in the vehicle. Start it. If it doesn't roar and shake, bang and pop, and settle into a lumpy idle, it's wrong.
It's that simple.