The Disappearance Of Maura Murray Complete Deep Dive
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- This video is part 1 and part 2 of my dive into the disappearance of Maura Murray. If you are a first time viewer then you can get the full deep dive by just watching this video.
In todays video I will continuing my deep dive into The Disappearance Of Maura Murray. This is a case I have been following for over a decade, one that has found a way to plant itself in my brain. I really hope you enjoy the video!
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I watch a lot of true crime, and I feel like the Maura Murray case is like the weirdest case I’ve ever heard
It’s certainly is one of the most bizarre!
@@TheCellarTrueCrime Drunkenness knows no favorites. Those woods are rife with peat bogs and little swamps. If a drunken person stumbles into one of those, her or his body will disappear without a trace.
Asha Degree is even weirder to me
Check Judy Smith case if you haven't, it's also very weird.
@@polinarius666 Very strange. My two cents: It seems to me that she had some sort of argument with her husband that he wasn't prepared to discuss with law enforcement and she decided to leave and ended up in Asheville. I think she must have had some sort of psychotic break due to the fact she didn't inform any of her family she had decided to go there. She was probably sniffed out by a serial killer who recognised her as an easy target.
It reminds me a little of the Blair Adams case, another very strange one.
Your content is the most logical and incredibly interesting. I have followed this as well
Thank you 🙏
Lets look at this: She crashes her car, Rick Forcier walks over to help her and is smoking a cigarette, and helping her make a plan. He goes back to his house to get his car and Butch drives by talks to her, and as soon as he leaves, Maura runs to get in Ricks car and is ushered away.
Rick then makes up the story about seeing her 5 miles up the road. To throw cops off her trail and she runs away or meets a killer.
Great video, I wanted to say the police do have more information that has not been revealed to the public, but has to Maura's family. Maura's sister, Julie Murray, stated in a News Nation Interview on February 13th, 2024, she knows information that she cant disclose.
Interesting. I wonder what is known and if there any closer to an answer.
WOW Great Reporting and I'm only 15 minutes in!!!
Appreciate that greatly! Glad you enjoyed. Please like, share, subscribe and I hope you come back for more content!
Faith Westman did not witness the accident from her window or anywhere else. She heard a noise that took her to the window and saw the vehicle sitting there.
Ppl forget how rare cell phones were at that time not everyone had one and faith being older def would not have recognized it as a cell phone light
I'm sorry something that sticks out to me is knowing she had a cell phone wouldn't it be easier for her to text him why e-mail him? I know she stated she didn't want to talk but this just seems off to me…..i also know that some language is different in different races but to call my grown azz man Stud again off to me. This case is chilling too many weird actions. Let's no get started on this twilight zone neighborhood she ended up in and also some of her actions are just strange. I pray this case gets solved Maura case has a lot of us scratching our heads! Her family deserves to know what happened to her. Oh even the police are Strange!! Great Job telling her story! New sub here!
Texting wasn’t as big back during her disappearance. It’s not like it is today. But yeah it’s a baffling case
I think Maura was incredibly depressed and she could have been the hit and run perpetrator. If bad things happened in both her old and new college the problem was probably her. It sounded like her relationship was ending, she had money problems or was just interested in pushing boundaries by committing credit card fraud, she was also developing a drinking problem just like her sister.
That’s a lot to cope with especially when you’re feeling alone.
She said there was a death in the family most likely because she meant herself. She might have had the idea to commit suicide somewhere pleasant that had good memories for her. She began drinking whilst driving and made a half hearted attempt on her life by crashing the car. When she was discovered by the bus driver she panicked and believed that she might have been breathelised - she would be arrested, her dad would have been called and more shame on herself would ensue. She ran, thinking that this was the best option. She got lost, called her boyfriend crying. (Not sure if this will get mentioned) and perhaps fell/ drowned/ froze as the light disappeared.
Not a bad Idea, although they did debunk the phone call to her boyfriend. There wasn’t one ever placed after she went missing. It’s a misconception that got talked about early on in the case
I think true crime fans overestimate this young lady. She was a screw-up, a petty theif (genuine lowlife stuff), and now two car wrecks in a few days that would have been made better bu Daddy. She was going away for privacy to drink herself into oblivion. The DUI would have had her sitting in a cell sobering up, waiting for Daddy.
She skeedaddled into the woods, eventuslly tired and lost, crawled into or under something for warmth, and died there of exposure.
Simple answer and very well could be what happened. I just hope she’s found one day to put the entire thing to rest. I don’t want to see her father go to his grave not knowing
My first thought and theory had always been she went into the woods after walking away... And succumbed to the elements
I mean it’s possible. They searched but people are missed during searches all the time
One of the most reasonable tries on this case. Like it. I watched a lot of materials about MMs dissapearance but the most concentrate too much on unlikely theories instead of following what seems to be the most logical and simple.
Appreciate the kind words and glad you enjoyed my dive into this case. It’s one I’ve been following for a very long time
She was definitely going to meet up with someone...thats y she had all that alcohol
Potentially I mean it makes logical sense.
You make a compelling case for her leaving the scene.
I feel like it's also possible she was hit by a vehicle and killed. I could see someone hitting her and killing her instantly. Subsequently making a split-second decision to put her body in his vehicle and disposing of it rather than face life in prison.
I've always believed the cops abducted her, used her and despised of her.
I'm gonna say it was her boyfriend, the one who ended up in jail anyway. I agree she got into a car, the dogs having her scent drop so suddenly means something to me. When that happens, I strongly believe that person didn't continue on foot after that. Especially that close. I don't understand a motive though. Which could lean into the police involvement theory but based on her bf's track record and future offenses... He seems like the most likely scenario. I still just don't understand why. Who knows though, it also could have been a completely random passerby that took an easy opportunity to pick up a woman "in need." She was already out of it, drinking, had a lot going on and not thinking clearly. That makes for an easy target. Unfortunately those things do happen all the time.
in another video they showed a picture of msuras car there is damage on the front and hood that could very likely be from hitting a person but seems to me to more consistent with hitting a deer also in this other video
mauras sister speaks a lot in the video but they dont mention her b.f. even once they mention legal trouble but just play it off as minor and they dont mention her liking to take a drink or the fact that she likely very drunk when she went missing
I think she started walking and drunk she got lost and cold
Watch the podcast done by Julie Murray.
I will thanks for the recommend!
I feel that she went into the woods because she was drinking and was trying to get away from whatever was going on back where she was from and didn’t want to be involved with the police. I think she got hurt or lost in the woods and died out there.
Very much the simplest and most logical answer. The searches were very thorough but that doesn’t mean she’s not out there…. Somewhere
Correct pronunciation. Haverhill (Hay-vrill)
Wow ty
She looks so different in the pictures and that home video. She looks bloathed in that video
Or ... the police SUV that "witness A" saw pass by her, twice, around 7:40 was the police chief and he had already picked Maura up from the accident scene. Instead of the theory that she was already intoxicated and trying to avoid police by leaving, she trusted an officer of the law enough to get in the car with him. She took her important stuff with her. He offered his assistance but maybe this "cop" potentially had psychopathic tendencies. Maybe even knocked her out at some point, perhaps either before or after getting in the car with him. Explains the haste, a door left open and he quickly grabbed her stuff. Now, whether he initially contributed to her accident because he had his own issues with drinking, definitely possible. But I don't think a police cover up is that far-fetched at all. In fact, I think police corruption and deception within authority is WAY more common place than many like to believe. Cecil Smith absolutely could have been given the directive to stage the scene, perhaps even with the alcohol before the state trooper arrived & to corroborate the story with Atwood. It's just weird to lie and say you found the drink mixed with the alcohol only after the tow truck came yet the state trooper's more consistent account contradicts it. And to stage it like the door was closed|locked when "witness A" drove by and saw the door left opened? Hm. Did witness A even see Maura at around 7:40 when she drove by the car because it sounds like Maura was likely already gone. A staged closed & locked door definitely appears less onimous than a wide open door. Makes it appear like a person took steps to leave their car rather than suddenly or unexpectedly.
I don't think Atwood was directly involved in whatever happened to Maura but it sounds like he could potentially have been involved in a cover-up via. Officer Smith, who could have already been prepped by the chief when arriving at the scene. I've heard Atwood's accounts have altered and not been that consistent, which unfortunately, can send up red flags. I mean, if he happened upon Maura and spoke with her directly to inquire if she needed any help prior to 7:40 &;Witness A, presumably around 7:30 , why wait all that time at 7:46 to suddenly inform police somebody needed help? That's potentially around 20 minutes regardless of your regular routine. Not only would he have seen the other police SUV on the scene that Witness A observed driving by because his property had a clear view of the accident scene, but is it possible there was interaction between Atwood & the first Police SUV already there within that 10 minute gap of 7:35 - 7:46? Did the chief ask him to make the "call" which brought Smith out next? I do think small tight knit communities can be complicit in a cover up especially when dealing with perceived authority figures. Who knows who might know who.
The one that stumps me too is the first caller claiming she saw a guy smoking a cigarette at the car with the commotion at the trunk and then redacting it. That's weird. What are they trying to hide with the redaction except moving people away from looking deeper into it. Was it somebody else the town knew that the police covered up for, including the chief? Hm. I suppose a theory to throw out there is Maura picked up someone on that road along the way and they attacked her while driving. That could have potentially caused the accident too and caller one was seeing the attacker. I was listening to Julie Murray explain that whoever looked at the car didn't think the damage was caused by impact of a tree. And when their father finally got to the car, he started it up and tested it out; it was still drivable. So why wouldn't Maura have just driven away unless she was prevented from doing that somehow?
This was just something else I heard when I watched an interview about when they used the search dogs and at one point came to a house close by where a man had been doing work on a basement. It was dirt ground and the like and he said he'd come back to finish what he needed to do, well, he comes back to find the whole basement floor suddenly cemented over. He thought it was strange and I guess reached out because this was at the time Maura went missing. Well, when they asked the homeowner if they could just do a search down there, they refused. The new homeowners agreed to allow it because the dogs were alerted. What I found "off" was when they came in to dig it, the dig wasn't in the same area the dogs had originally sniffed out and the Attorney General tried telling the family it was just a rat or something. When the dogs are specifically trained for the scent of humans. Anyway, found that to be ... interesting.
Who knows.
Begs the question is not the same as raises the question. Begging the question is using circular reasoning.
What’s up with those weird videos that guy made about her with the weird puzzles?
From way back in the day? Or was it more recent. I remember there being a weird guy who posted stuff and made claims or what not. I believe he was proven to be full of 💩
you remind me of just thought lounge
Thank you for giving the channel a chance
I think Maura ran away and is still alive
I truly do hope that you are right. Would love to know that she's alive and well and happy
That’s what I think could have happened too. I’ve heard of stories of people running away and being found much later with a new identity.
I wonder if Israel Keyes was in the area at the time. Apparently he was no stranger to New Hampshire
Mhmm yeah the Israel Keyes angle is another interesting one. Could he have been in the right place right time.
True Crime Bullshit Podcast (about Israel Keyes)just did an interview with Julie Murray discussing this. It’s possible he was in the area but not for certain.
The cop drunk driving and accidentally hitting her actually makes the most sense
Yeah I tend to lean a bit more lately towards something Happenng with the police chief. I hope we get some answers someday in all of this.
It just really makes alot of sense. She wasn’t found in the woods, and it makes more sense than a random picking her up. He lied about things cops don’t do that unless they’re hiding something
You don't have to agree with me but after hearing this i think maura morray has left some of her belongings and took the ones that were important than why would she not take everything ? and that tells me that someone has found maura and has not givin her enough time to gather all her things i still don't understand why would maura be driving at night when is most likely to be dangerous and my opinion is that maura has probably trying to gather her things up when someone saw her and found the perfect time to end her life or maura herself ended her own life or that maura herself is still alive out there in the depth of the forest or maura visits the place that she has crashed into as t is most likely that maura is no longer alive after being missing for 20 years or will this mistory of maura murray still not be solve 🤔🤫😶🌫🥸😵🤬😠😤❤❤🩹🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤷♀🤷🤷♂
Where did you ever get the idea Maura exchanged bottles and cans for cash ? LOL..She took 280.00 out of her account at the ATM and bought Kalua,Baileys ana a box of Fanzia wine ! Her father NEVER said he left any of the 4,000 dollars with her when he left so your way off here guy !
He never said where Any of that 4,000 dollars went. Could he have given it to her? Maybe. I don’t think he did like I used to, but even James renner auestioned the cash that her father took out.
I’ve always thought Butch had something to do with her disappearance…. And did he smoke by chance?
Not sure if he did, but logically… him being the last too see her. It does point more in his direction. I wish we had more clues to steer the case in the right direction
I think israel keyes mighta rolled up on her and played good guy while smoking a cigarette and acting like he is checking the car he tells her its screwed and so is she so she should ride outta there with him she grabs her things dips out thinking shes safe with him....he then abducted her probably at gun point and her killed her and probably buried her somewhere away from that area.So anybody know where abouts Israel was at the time Maura went missing??? Just an opinion on what mighta happened...And listen Israel keyes was crazy enough to have absolutely have done it...
He is and he was linked somewhat to the area or at least a few hours away. He used to keep kits buried all over for his victims. Man was a monster to levels people don’t understand. If he did do it… then will most likely never know what happened to her. He was “good” at hiding his crimes
True Crime Bullshit Podcast just did two episodes exploring this theory and an interview with Julie Murray. Really interesting.
The Cellar? Jeff Williams' cousin or nephew had a birthday party that night in Mountain Lakes (look at the maps) Maybe Jeff was pregaming before the party and hit Maura on the way to the party
That’s been a thought of mine for a long time. What if she was hit and killed by Jeff and then it was covered up. I dont believe she just started a new life.
@@TheCellarTrueCrime Why not? She had tried it before, Kurt wrote the poem and Hoss said she told him she wanted to run away. Jeff and Cecil are now dead.
@@TheCellarTrueCrimeThe issue with this is why didnt Faith, Butch or the Marottes see him hit her?
After this video Im back to thinking Jeff Williams did it
It’s something I’ve considered for quite some time
@@TheCellarTrueCrime Hes dead tho.
I mean Cecil kilt himself@@TheCellarTrueCrime
I believe she got into someone's car 🚙 and they harmed her...may God bless her n her family...I really love her dad and his unrelenting love for his daughter he is a true hero
He is and I hope he gets answers one day
Her father said and did some concerning things. Lending the new car to her when she had been drinking and the comment about the rag in the tailpipe! Why did he meet with her?
It’s very possible the reason she walked back into her work that night in a catatonic state is because she was the one who accidentally hit
a intoxicated College student named Patrice Vassey with her car
She was possibly the driver involved in a hit and run accident, that could be why she met her dad and he withdrew money so they could get rid of the car involved in the accident and buy a new one
Could also be why she was headed to the white mountains to get out of town, she was probably afraid that she killed him and that maybe someone seen the accident and knew the police would investigate
Patrice Vassey didn’t die, he was in a coma but he woke up with no memory of what happened to him and there was no witnesses to accident
Occams Razor = Ran away to start a new life. The missing hour is when she stopped in Londonderry to dye and cut her hair (remember the ping?) and the red truck that RO describes was the tandem driver, taking Maura off to her new life after she ditched the car intentionally (staging) Her little brother Kurt wrote a poem asking why Maura ran away. Plus she had ran away before.
Bill sounds like a helluva guy. 😒😒😒
Yeah he’s a real winner
Keep doing these longer videos please. The horrible fate series is up there next to Scary Interesting. I love the hard work keep it up
Appreciate the kind words and support!
Do more long, comprehensive vids like this. Definitely suits your style nicely.
Finally...somebody has taken a good look at this case and filled in some blanks...most of the yuotube presentations are lazy and dont do research...just spend a few hours listening to somebody elses youtube videos then cobble a story..no new connections,just rehash already known details
I’ve been following this story for years and years. Honestly I could probably talk about this case for hours but I wanted to try and make something that was concise to what is believed to be the timeline and not get too far off track with the numerous conspiracies. I’ll probably dive back into some theories in the future.
@@TheCellarTrueCrime I wish you would put out a long, rambling video about it. lol. I'd listen. 😉
@@davegentry-pu9xm glad to hear it. I think I’m going to do my first live stream soon and I think it’s gonna be centered around discussing Maura murray and her case. I’m very familiar with her story and I think it could be a fun one
@@davegentry-pu9xm and by fun one I mean a fun time for us all to discuss. Obviously nothing is “fun” about Maura missing or what her family has gone through
@@TheCellarTrueCrime Of course. No need to explain. Thank you!
She ran into the woods....I think. Or a police cover up
@@Drb821 no foot prints in the snow.
lotsa alcohol involved here. Not a good sign
She went down Bradley hill road! That's how she avoided police !
If she was drinking I can totally understand how she’s getting lost back when I was young and dumb. That was very easy.
I've seen numerous videos of Mauras' disappearance and this one is the best! Alot of work was put into making it and it shows. I left a comment about her disappearance on your latest video and after watching this it upset me even more about what happened to her and left me with even more questions! There's so many speculating crcumstances that just make it so frustrating not to have any answers. The thoughts of what could of happened to her are so upsetting and I hope one day she is found and we know the truth, she deserves that at the least!!!
Really appreciate the kind words. I’ve been a big time follower of this case and I always wanted to do it justice if I made a video on it. Thanks for watching!
Just to let you know, Smith covered for Williams. Williams harassed me at my job, and both were on duty. Smith did nothing to stop him. Williams was seriously scary, and I don't scare easily. He just was not right. And mean. So, from what I experienced, I would not put anything past those two. Did you notice the tire tracks drawn on the police report? Just as Witness A described where the SUV was parked? And another point, Atwood's call was transferred to Hanover and when Atwood was called back by dispatch, they were told by Atwood's girlfriend she did not know where the female was. Just after the time Witness A said she had driven through.
I would love to hear more about your experiences there. If you want to email me my email is linked in all my videos
I feel like Butch made up the story of her saying she called Triple A when there was no cell service out there. I think Butch should have been investigated as a suspect. Unfortunately he's not here to provide the truth
Yeah I mean if he was involved will never truly know at this point.
I don't think he was guily of hurting Maura, but he did see more that night and was scared to speak up.
@@TheCellarTrueCrime yeah I mean where did she call triple A from his house?
Did Butch offer to make a call with his cellphone?
Or did he offer to make a call using his landline because he knew Maura had no cell service and neither did he?
The only people there that had any kind of 'communications' were the police and their radios and witnesses who had landlines.
The communications between officers and dispatch should have been recorded and stored.
I think there's some communication records between officers and dispatch that are missing...also i think the calls made/recieved by Maura during her drive are not being released.
I think it was a crime of opportunity. She grabbed her booze and was going to lay low and hoped police just left the car and she would go back. Someone probably offered to help her. Maybe saw her walking and picked her up. She had to think fast! Definitely feel like the guy with the cigarette is a real thing. Why would that woman say that if she didn't see. Dosen't make sense. The idea that she started a new life is very doubtful and she didn't walk out into the woods and die either. Highly unlikely imo
This exactly! She was not abducted in that ‘small window of time’ - she was hiding from the cops in the wood nearby watching. When the cop left she hit the road and eventually hitched a lift. She was most likely picked up long after that cop had left when she’d headed back on the road walking towards town. There was a report of a woman seen walking on the road a while after her crash.
I find it more likely that a drunk and distraught college kid lost her way in the dark, dense woods while she was trying to evade the cops. She was not dressed properly at all. She was not even wearing her gloves. She was extremely stressed and probably sleep-deprived to boot. And what if she had a head injury? She'd been in 2 major car accidents in as many days. That's insane. She may have been disoriented and confused. I think she died from hypothermia, exacerbated by the alcohol in her system, and her body was missed in searches. They did not even do a proper search until 3 days later. If she was spotted 5 miles from the crash site by just after 8 PM, think of how far she could have gotten in the woods before she succumbed. She may have curled up somewhere hidden in an attempt to get warm. They found human bones near Loon Mountain in 2021. I think this was 25 miles from where she crashed. Everyone thought they could be Maura's. But they were tested and it was found they had been there for at least 100 years... maybe as far back as the 18th century. They'd sat there all that time, and no one had found them until 2021! She could easily be out there.
It only take 20-30 minutes to die from hypothermia. I agree that she did not want a DUI.. hid from the cop in the woods left the car after the accident. By the looks of the car, she most likely had a head injury . Even though I am an experienced hiker, it is REALLY to get lost in the woods.. even a small area. In addition, I think that she was drunk.. who knows how warmly she dressed.. she succumbed to the elements .. Her body was decimated by animals … makes sense to me .. Logic
@@wulfsorenson8859 I agree with you
So my personal experience is what immediately came to mind about this story. When my car broke down on the side of the road and my license was suspended and I had some green stuff with me and the first thing that I did was grabbed my shit and thought I gotta get away from this car quick! So I ditched the car and the scene before popo could get there or see me. Now this happened in a huge city on the freeway mind you not but had I been in the middle of nowhere what choice would you have other than hitching a ride? In that moment the only thing going through your mind is " I'm not going to jail!"
Appreciate you sharing your experience and thoughts. I feel as a female who’s experienced a similar situation you can give some insight into the thought process she may have had. I agree with ya, she very well may have been dead set on fleeing the scene in any manner possible. I hope we find answers someday.
@@TheCellarTrueCrime I’m with you 100%! This is one of those cases I keep coming back to because it’s so weird. If the person that picked her up was “one of those types,” then it’s almost like fate had it in for her when you put the short time span into the mix but then again these days it seems like every other dude is a perv so you got a 50/50 chance on whether that next ride was one of those. One of the scenarios that also crossed my mind was that she was in such a rush to get away that she wasn’t being careful and got hit by a car and the person took her body with them and disposed of it elsewhere.
Think she grabbed what she could and caught a ride with the wrong person who saw a golden opportunity with someone all by themselves and far from home. Amazes me how everyone disregards dirtbag112 altogether
I believe that she was kidnapped/abducted after her minor car crash. If she had been wandering in the woods her body would have been found. Definitely a very strange and puzzling case. Maybe she just needed a break from life and went to where her childhood holiday places were to chill out. I so hope she is found
I think the same
It sounds like she ran at first so she wouldn't get a d u I and not be able to get into the career path she wanted. Being a track star, she thought she could run. But the elements proved to be false to her drunk processing. Woods are dense, bodies are always missed.
Yeah she definitely ran into the woods to hide from the police…but her body was never found. She could easily have left the woods after the cops were gone and walked down the road towards town and hitched a ride much later than previously thought? It was either that or police incompetence meant her body was overlooked in the woods.
Where were her footsteps in the snow???? If she ran into the woods there would’ve been footprints into the woods.
@@deeervin7272 they only checked in the area of the crash. But most likely she hitched a lift.
The biggest clue to me is that sniffer dog, they don't make mistakes,so at there had been something dead. What if bus driver saw her walking past his bus and convinced her to come in and he told her that he wouldn't call police. The sniffer dog in that house is Ocams Razor.
Maura was very close to her father !we all make mistake which we aren't proud of!my opinion is she is so long gone and all the time she didn't even phone her family just to say she is fine don't worry!sorry to say this but i don't think she is still alive!
Good job! I trust dogs. So, I believe she was picked up where her scent disappears. She may have been forced into a car or truck. Why do I think they found her DNA in an A-frame house near by?
People walk into holes and get trapped. Everyone is left wondering, but it’s actually boring and perfectly logical. Look at a national map of missing persons next to a map of known cave systems. They match because people fall into caves. Lousy way to go.
That’s a good point, it happens more then people could ever imagine
The simplest answer is she wander into the woods to avoid the cops and succumbed to the weather.
Two feet of ice covered snow? Let's see how far you get and succumb without ppl finding in literal hours
@@southernsweettea3478 if so her remains would’ve been recovered
@@hannahlabyrinth1945 if it was continuously snowing the snow could've covered her and then by the time spring came animals and scavengers would do what they do. You'd think there would be clothing or personal effects. Ive seen the woods via Google maps. Appears to be a pretty dense forest. If I were a betting person I'd bet her remains are within a half mile circumfrance from where her vehicle was found.
@@Booooberrie finding a body in 2ft of snow answered your own question lol it's in 2ft of snow.
@@acidrage5206 there would be major tracks in 2 feet of snow
The more I think about this, The more I believe:
Atwood lied from the get go, and Maura (maybe at first declined) but knowing she was looking at a DUI, on top of other troubles in Mass.
She did eventually decide to jump into Butch's Bus or Car to hide from authorities.
The tragedy in this is that in many of these rural areas with small Police Dept's it's common for local residents to offer and give assistance to police.
So when Officer C. Smith arrived he mistakingly accepted Atwood's story and in that moment accepted the help, (meaning Atwood's roose of going to search for Maura).
Atwood knows Maura is already hiding in his bus or car.
At the time it would seem innocent enough to Officer Smith, car is spun out, not a tremendous amount of damage, Per Atwood: driver was speaking then walks away.
Let's see if we can locate her.
Atwood shoulda never been allowed to leave that scene until his home, bus, car & property were completely searched.
Atwood either drove Maura out of there right after speaking with Officer Smith, or waited until everyone cleared the scene.
Occam's Razor
Agree totally 👍
Smart
THIS IS THAT CASE THAT I JYST NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
Couldn’t agree more!
She asked the bus driver not to call the police. Did she freak out and go to hes house to make sure to tell him not to call the police? Did an argument break out and the bus driver attacked her?
I know that's awful to say especially if it's not the case, I know if I was in a bad place & something else happened in top, I'd be really scared. I would do all I could to make sure the police wasn't called, that's all she needed on top of everything else.
She was getting away as she felt depressed, she had so much going on for a twenty year old, also breaking up from a dysfunctional relationship is so painful.
And sadly butch the bus driver would pass away years later and any secrets he may have had, went with him
I think that she went to the bus driver’s house since they had already spoken. She had stolen a credit card in the past, so probably she also had the intention to steal some money/ credit card from that house, he probably caught her, she threatened to tell the police a bunch of things, he panicked and murdered her. He had had never been in trouble with the police, and no one would hire him again, especially to drive a school bus. Something may have happened in that house that caused his death.
Obviously please don't ring cops I am drunk and running away from pending court cases ! FACT!
Occams razor...this isnt some complicated case. She met with foul play whether it was the town cops or a serial killer that was in that area for somqe years and never caught. There have been alot of missing women 18-25 in vermont, maine and new hampshire thst were neva solved...
I have begun leaning towards the cops myself
لقد سمعت القصة من ثلاثة او اربع سنين كل سنة احاول الوصل لمعلومات جديدة عنا لا اعلم لماذا لا انسى هذه القصة 😢😢
من يملك معلومات جديدة فليكتب لي رجاء
The odds that she was abducted in that location, in that environment, at that time and in that short window of time is almost immeasurably small.
A lot of people say that. But did it occur to you she could have hid in the woods hiding till the cops had gone only heading back on the road on foot AFTER he’d left? She could have easily hitched a lift far later than previously thought. She was most likely still hiding behind a tree waiting for the cop to go during that small window of time. There was a report from a neighbor of a woman seen walking down the road later that evening. Eventually she hitched a ride to town with the wrong person.
@@wulfsorenson8859 Then how come the police dogs lost her scent?
Right and Butch is the only one known to have seen her. He said she called Triple A but there was no cell service out there. I have heard that he has since passed away
@@chrisspearline767 that’s wrong. She was seen by a neighbor jogging along the road one hour after the police had left. It was 17km of empty road surrounded by vast empty forest to the next town. And it was freezing. I would have hitched a lift too in her situation.
@@Da1Dez the gloves they used were new and barely had her scent.
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It was cold, she was typsy, no cell phone signal, no car.... definitely got in the car with a "Ted Bundy" type.....
Definetly possible, especially after all this time
behaviors and motivations just don't add up to anything that makes any sense. She died from exposure, and she is not the only one who was never found. keep in mind that what ppl see, or think they see, is greatly impacted by their own biases and expectations.
She was drunk and scared an ran into the woods, upset..passed out and died do to the elements etc.
Could be. Hard to believe all the searches never turned up anything though
Right.. but where is the body ?
the body would have froze so you think they would have found it and the dogs losing the scent didnt make sense in this theory
I had the exact model Saturn years ago from an absolute full tank it would go about 75 to 100 miles before the gas hand would drop to that amount
The police were too shady and someone would see a man if it was her BF that lived out of state
The police acting the way they did has always left me to wonder. I go back and forth but the police involvement would and could make a lot of sense.
I've heard people speculate about this case and the disappearance of Briana Maitland being connected. The cases are very similar.
Her case is very creepy. I’m sure someone unknown to her flagged her down pretending they had car trouble then abducted her.
I would have walked back in the same direction I came also. There was a gas station she passed. Makes sense.
But. I think she knew the police would be coming from that direction. From the center of town. Also there was 2 ft of on the ground off the road & big snow banks. She would of had to hide in driveways or dive into snow into snowballs to avoid being seen. It is possible tho.
Occams.razor....drunk, she hid in woods not wanting another criminal charge to wait out the cops...and then got lost....succumbed to hypothermia...tried to .cover herself and is buried under debris somewhere in those woods
I think she went walking for some reason and someone probably just picked her up…. She was probably kidnapped out there in the country. This is why you don’t trust anyone ever.
I’ll say you live a wild lifestyle anything can happens.
I’m super paranoid myself. I’m alone mostly so wtf could happen to me is my thoughts.
Yeah that very well could be the case, always be aware of your surroundings!
I know what happened she went to New Hampshire!! I know it sounds mean, but people are disappearing to the new Hampshire a lot. When u got to a state that is mainly forest, it is easy to make someone disappear. Though I hope she will be found the odds are against it.
There was a theory made about the cop possibly causing the accident. The lady saw the same car go by her twice....the theory she got into a vehicle down the road possibly getting in since she felt comfortable with the person....who said its not the cop and he understood her situation since hes an alcoholic too. Could it be possible he comforted her and she got in and things got out of control and he did something? 🤔
Yes I read that, I've always wondered if the cop did something to maura
I’ve always asked this question and wondered it myself. The police chief Williams was always said to be a pretty sketchy alcoholic.
She went out looking for her upper lip
Kate M is the key to this case
yeah I think there's plenty of information that has never been publicly obtained from her. Would love to pick her brain.
@@TheCellarTrueCrime i want to know why fred said, 'anything that happened to maura disappearance means nothing." BS he is covering, it means everything. He also wont divulge what Kate said to him, why? if you really wanted to find your daughter you would put all evidence out there. Either Maura was hit by a police car, or she escaped. What else would keep Kate M from talking and from going to look for her? The next weekend Kate ran in a track meet. youre not gonna look for your friend? No, because she knows Maura ran away, and didnt want to put up with her Dad, and Billy, and competing with Julie etc..... Can you get a hold of KAte?
You didn't go deep into this dude !! Read more about Chief Williams and what he did earlier that night with a squad car ( got it stuck in the snow because he was drunk ), Then was given the SUV 001 to drive away. Years later the PD claims that SUV 001 was NOT available that night due to repairs to dispute zwhat female WITNESS A claimed she saw !!
Oh I’m aware of all the different stuff. I just was selective on what to dive into. I’ve been following this case for a long time, I will probably dive back into it again in the not to distant future and discuss some more theories and ideas
I feel strongly that her body is out in the woods. I'm sure that her abusive boyfriend contributed to her mental state and declining behavior, but I think she just took off in the woods. She was already running away from her problems at home - I don't think she brought anyone with her. I agree with the idea that she didn't want to get into anymore trouble. When you are drinking, you don't realize how cold it is plus your body is more susceptible because of the alcohol. She could have easily found a hiding spot, fell asleep and passed away from hypothermia without ever waking up. They say that there were no tracks, but the snow was sparse enough that she could have hopped over the bit at the side of the road and gone off through the woods where the snow hadn't accumulated. I only live 20 minutes away from the accident site and feel like I went through a similar crisis around her age. I could have been her. Praying that she is found.
Very interesting that you live that close. If you have anymore info to share about the area or any rumors that have floated around locally or anything like that I’d be interested. I think your conclusion, based on everything, is probably the most reasonable. Sometimes bodies are overlooked and once they turn to nothing but bone it can take a miracle to find. I just hope the family gets closer one day. Any family that goes through something like this, deserves at the very least, some closer.
So where are the things missing from the car? Such as alcohol bottles and the car keys which I think is missing as well? And why hasn’t the body parts been found after hundreds of hours of searching in the area? Experts have all said it’s impossible that she is still in the woods.
@@ThomLeeds They began the search way too late to rely on their canines. I have heard far too many stories of bodies found in areas that had previously been searched to believe that it is impossible. We are talking about a very bright and agile girl who really didn't want anymore trouble in her life. I believe that she could have easily outsmarted the search team.
@@nickit8871So she crash the car by accident or on purpose and decide that the easiest way to kill herself is to run out in the woods and kill herself?
Yeah, but if she die down in the words, people would have found her body by now like somebody would have found some thing more than likely clothing, a bone something
I believe, she is the one who did the hit and run, got scared because she was drinking so she ran into the woods. Died from exposure.
This is what I believe happened as well, it’s the most logical explanation
Not to mention ahe just found out her sister had slept with her either current bf or ex bf (can't remember which) I think that's the family emergency. She also had a lot if mental issues going on too. But, I think your theory is 1000% correct. Her remains were scattered by animals and were thus never found. Edit for clarification...I'm not so sure about the hit and run part. I think some mental illness or mental breakdown caused her to make some bad decisions in unforgiving weather and nature.
She Had a cell phone on her pissed off or not she would’ve called somebody
Feels more like a cover-up to me.
there was no cell phone coverage in that area.
@@Tinanbobby
Did the cops check the bus or the bus drivers home?? He was the last person to see her alive??
Scent dogs are way overrated.
Did they ever find out why she took that trip to NH and where her actual end destination was?
If the police have an answer they still haven’t shared it with the public. It’s still not clear why or where she was heading
The sister NEVER MENTIONED these troubles
It seems like her family is still broken… how sad
Ocams Razor theory- the tracking dogs stopping where they did, in front of the bus drivers house:
She never went beyond that point on foot.
Picked up? Walked to the guys house who stopped to check on her? Other questions follow that. But that is one thing that stands out, what are the odds her scent stops at the house of the bus driver and its totally random? He admitted to stopping to check on her (not saying hes guilty of anything) - but its odd.
It is and logically the last person typically has some involvement. Sadly the bus driver is long since gone and it doesn’t seem like any answer are ever going to come in this case. I hope they do one day, I truly do
@TheCellarTrueCrime That's really unfortunate if in fact he had any involvement. It's just such a weird case with a very small window of time between her last being seen and first officer arriving on scene. The last person to see her coincidentally is where her scent trail ends to boot.
I grew up and still live in the white mountains, I don't think we will ever have answers with Maura either, and it's so heartbreaking for all who loved her.
I am 98% sure I heard an episode of Crimehub The other night that claimed a group of investors in 2024 used ground radar to find a well, and located a diary thought to be written by her, and lastly that a vagrant from the area had confessed! I'm not joking, but I paused the episode to Google case updates. And now I can't relocate the episode wyh! Does anyone have a subscription to Crimehub who can jump to the end of that episode and tell me if I'm crazy? I swear it's what I heard. Lol, but it's strange that after I paused and came back it's gone, now the episode seems to only be available to subscribers..
I’ll have to look into it but I’m also not a subscriber, so idk if I’ll have any luck
@TheCellarTrueCrime lol I tell u what if it was a ploy to get subscribers it's was the most brilliant ever, bc while I can't afford it I've wanted to get pay so I can listen to that daym episode again every day since this happened. Lol I swear I wasn't high or anything lol
keep in mind none of it would be even slightly interesting 20 years later if she were not attractive
Idk if I agree with that. I think the case and mystery behind it is why people are so interested.
From an outsidet just hearing this case 1st time... simple explanation... was drunk, crashed, ran off to avoid arrest but got lost in woods ...
There were no footprints ever found on either side of the rd her car was found on and they checked both directions for awhile. Not to mention they also checked side roads and dirt roads in the immediate area and they also checked both sides of those roads for footprints as well, there were none. If you want the REAL STORY. Check out her sisters podcast MEDIA PRESSURE on here...its insightful and well done. There are 9 parts.
There was 2 feet of frozen snow in the woods and 2-3 foot snowbanks on both sides of the rd with fresh fallen snow from the day before she didn't go in the woods
Very comprehensively delivered,thankyou for so much more information on this young woman
Glad you enjoyed the video. Always been passionate about this story and I wanted to do it justice.
I think she staged the whole accident and is alive living off grid somewhere. The stresses of life was probably too much for her
Could be. I almost hope it’s the case. It beats all the other alternatives
There’s no way she would have been able to stay out of trouble this long. She’s dead.
Impeccable police records kinda mean nothing. Especially in a small town.
I think the cops have something to do with it 🤔😕
Wouldn’t surprise me at all
@@Micazasdebandito79 ❤️
Who put the rag in the exhaust pipe? Was it a plan to kidnap her?
This case remains intriguing. Maura had secrets that led to her demise. The theories all point that she was some confused drunk girl who didn't know what she was doing and in some state of panic. She was a cadet, she was a nurse. She wasn't stupid. She would have been found if she was dead in the woods after the widespread search -- the winter weather would have preserved her body-- even cadaver dogs didn't find her. She had a more viable plan to escape to a new life..
I disagree if she was that cunning she wouldn’t be in that situation in the first place. If she wanted to disappear why let so many people see her. Unfortunately, I think she went to hide from police and succumbed to the elements.
She probably hid in the woods from the cops after the crash. Later she came out and decided to walk to town and probably flagged down a passing car to avoid the cold. The mistake people make is thinking she disappeared in the 7m window before the cop arrived. Most likely the culprit picked her up and killed her hours later. There was a report from a neighbor of a woman seen jogging down the road one hour after she crashed. It was 17miles on the dark cold road to town.
Maybe...but she probably didn't plan to wreck her car. I've never heard exactly why her car wouldn't go. Would the car not start or did she have a flat? I've never heard what exactly was wrong with her car.
@@tamijoyce5086 it went into a ditch and she couldn’t get it out. So she packed up her stuff and ran off before the cops arrived to avoid a DUI. Remember she was already on probation for using a stolen credit card so she was looking at jail and being expelled from Amherst if she was picked up by police.
Perhaps someone even caused the accident in order to get to her.
Could very well be the case, so many questions with unclear answers in this case
This story makes me wonder if one of the officers had something to do with her dissapearance. Is there sufficient evidence to rule that out? I know it's not likely, but police officers are capable of making wrong choices too.
Same thoughts
Yeah I was thinking the same thing dont sound right,it seems the police were last ones to see her. They say it was late at night so 2 sleazy cops stop u and they take you. Do what they want and nobody no any wiser.pretty scary u cant even trust the people who are supost to protect u.
Police officers making wrong choices is extremely likely, tf are u talking about lol
Totally a cop could be an abductor totally in a way in a twisted way. Someone may think that they want to become a cop if there are no doctor because people trust cops I’m not saying that’s what happened, but it totally could be.
My thoughts all along
I can’t believe it’s been 20 years. I remember hearing about this in college
It’s hard to believe I’ve been following this case for well over a decade myself. I hope answers are found one day for the family
@@TheCellarTrueCrime I get so lost in missing persons cases. I hope something comes up. So many weird inconsistencies in this case