I am more of a PvE player, but this thing feels like a good "baseline" pulse. But it's nothing special in PvE, and I wish events like the Dawning had something more to offer in that area.
Cool Guy, if you can pin this if possible. I did post about the muzzle flash to the help forums about a month ago and Bungie help is tracking it and working on a fix. No eta when that will be though.
Muzzle flash on the new Strand slug shotgun is also absolutely BLINDING. Huge green flash across the screen every time you fire. With Cascade Point it's an issue for sure.
The muzzle flash update happened exactly when Lightfall released. Me and my friend love the gun and were using it in the days after the release and noticed how awful the muzzle flash was.
I can attest. Immediately after lightfall dropped, I was farming legend lost sectors with stay frosty and I had to put it away. The muzzls flash was very disorienting
that explains a lot. i had a PvP roll in the vault i hadnt used since before LF. couldnt stand the muzzle flash and wondered how i managed to get so many kills
My favorite part of these is the fact you can get four perks on it with the vendor upgrades. I have one from last year that fits both PVE and PVP with completely different perks. With tight vault space, it’s VERY welcomed
I was testing Ballidorse Wrathweavers with Emp Rift and Stay Frosty last week, it's pretty sweet popping rift and getting instant 2x Stasis Surge + Empowering Rift to soften up TTK and crit requirements, and you can chain right into Kill Clip with that for some pretty amazing performances. Also, particularly great with Shadebinder, if you spec into a high range Stay Frosty, Whisper of Hedrons goes HARD on this one. Killing Wind (or Encore) + Kill Clip gets you incredible reach. It's truly a great one. Here's hoping they fix that muzzle flash ASAP.
I have been using stay frosty for about a year now. I've really enjoyed having it as a daily driver. I tried 5 different rolls, including the roll you suggested, but I landed on tunnel vision/ kill clip. It feels good to me. Feels like I can't miss.
yep i noticed this acouple months ago. I put it on when the range changes happened to test it and was like wtf has it always been this hard to see when shooting this thing
one of the only cc to sing the true praise of this gun, glad it's getting some recognition here. fix the muzzle and it'll go back to being my most used primary just like last year. One thing, it did lose out on ricochet rounds for accurized, if that changes what you look for from last year
Thank you, I really want to use this thing in PvP but the muzzle flash, oh my god the muzzle flash... It makes it really hard to use effectively. I really hope they fix it soon.
I have three encore pulses: Messenger[+kill clip], Jorum's Claw[+golden tricorn], & Psi Hermetic[+perpetual motion]. That Messenger is a couple of yrs old as the perk doesn't seem to roll with it anymore.
Wondering if there's anything in the graphics settings that can help the muzzle flash. Thanks for the review of the new perks. I kept a lot of these from last season, but wittled down to 4 to make room for the new ones. Glad I kept at least one with ricochet since that's gone, but it's a desparado roll, so maybe that will come back some day. The one I actually use is an encore with kill clip and headseeker options, with good range. Headseeker is what I tend towards, but that's when I'm doing 3s in crucible, then forget to switch back to kc when I'm in 6s again. Excited to save up and try for new rolls this season!
A great example of Bungie failing its player base. Any Dev at Bungie who actually plays this game has to know how terrible the muzzle flash is making the weapon basically unusable. This is the difference between a responsive healthy organization with solid leadership and one with very poor leadership. Healthy leadership - fixed immediately - Unhealthy leadership - not fixed.
My Roll is Encore Headseeker. I know its unusual to pair win now per with win later perk, most people like to lean all the way into one. But this weapon is so good out of the box, as you identified, Encore is such an S-Tier perk on it, because it turns it into a MONSTER. The Stability and Range. The accuracy. it vaccums headshots. I've found that Encore and headseeker are both good enough on their own to justify pairing a win now with a win later perk. They still manage to enhance each other. When you get Encore up you become a .80ish TTK Machine. Its almost impossible not to hit your peak TTK. with both perks going. Very fun to chain.
I kept an Arrow/Ricochet/Encore/Kclip and an Arrow/Ricochet/Moving/Headseaker from last year. I love them. I also have an Arrow/Ricochet/Encore/Headstone roll for PvE. Omolon weapons rock! I'll be searching for similar with more range or new perk combos this year.
You’d probably love and hate my Stay Frosty, CoolGuy. I got this last year. 😅 For barrels, I have corkscrew and hammer forged. (I choose corkscrew) For mags, it’s either appended or light mag. (I have appended) Then I have 4 perks. Encore / Killing Wind Desperado / Kill Clip Masterwork is handling.
I was pretty gobsmacked when the event started and I excitedly grabbed my stay frosty that I loved before the bug, thinking “oh they will for sure have reviewed the gun before the season, noticed it’s bugged and fix it, why would they add a bugged gun as a seasonal reward. That would just make it seem like they didn’t care”…….
That bright muzzle flash is why I don't really like many arc weapons. Sweet sorrow should be one of my favourite weapons in the game but I find it jarring. I always gravitate towards kinetic, solar and void primaries.
This reminds me of the Arc Logic days where I loved using the gun but the muzzle flash was obnoxious. They did eventually fix it so I hope they do the same here.
My 2nd favourite pulse after Ogma. I have a moving target/tricorn and moving target headseeker and I win with them even though I suck. Most of my favourite 540s and L/Weights have 17 zoom but this and Ogma have 18 and 19 respectively. I don’t know if zoom is meaningless now but my brain still believes in it.
The muzzle flash issue is something that has been patched previously, but returned with the release of a new season(I think light fall?) I still have my OG roll with hammer forged, ricochet rds, moving target, KClip, and range MW. It has the same range as yours but with 62 stability and 67 handling. It doesn't appear that the new version can roll ricochet rds, which is kind of a bummer. I remember wanting to like this more but every time I try to use it the muzzle flash issue comes back. Still a fun gun though and could be improved with the newest range changes.
Besides encore why would i use this over a crafted chattering bone? Kill klip / rampage or headseeker seems like a better deal to me. I'll hunt one just because you said so though! Thanks for all that you do for this comunity!
Just got my first ever stay frosty from the stasis kills triumph and it dropped moving target headseeker stablity MW its got 33 range 87 stability and its melting rn i can go 38 range 77 stab but the 87 is too good
Its been this way for a while. Its why i deleted them all from my vault when i needed room. Im not going to use a weapon that makes it so i can't see shit while i shoot.
I have a Well Rounded+Headstone from last year and it's unfortunate they removed Well Rounded. In sixes, it felt really good to throw a nade, usually Duskfield, before an engagement and then crack the crystal from Headstone to trigger Whisper of Shards
The roll I use in PvE is Adpative Munitions to shred barrier champ shields (does up to 500% more damage to them). Adaptive Munitions and what else? Well.. all other perks are kill activated perks (besides moving target), so basically I only have Adaptive Munitions as a perk. This roll makes the weapon more of a tool than a gun for killing stuff, so I was looking forward to it getting a perk refresh with some neutral game perks in the third column to go with Adaptive Munitions. Buuuut they removed Adaptive Munitions with the perk refresh. Now there's only Under Over (+125% damage to barrier champ shields). They did add Enlightened Action to the third column though, which gives you +50 handling and reload after landing 5 bullets. Gonna be farming that roll for PvE. +125% damage to barriers while having 100 handling and reload speed is pretty nice for GMs
Don’t sleep on Encore/Headstone in PvE - the headstone burst killing adds can give you instant 4/4 Encore stacks making it a damn laser beam afterwards for another precision kill. Rinse and repeat.
This is completely disconnected from the video, but you know what perk I wish they'd bring back from D1? Battle Runner. Getting maxed out mobility for a period of time after a kill is just nice. I'm not sure if Killing Wind is just Battle Runner but better in terms of stat gains, but I miss Battle Runner. That's all.
Disappointed that they removed high cal and ricochet rounds from this pulse. Its a pulse that I have kept a few rolls of from last year and enjoy using from time to time. It always surprises me how good it feels. Especially compared to Ogma, which is also a LW pulse that I like. I attribute it to the Torch sight, which has been my favorite sight in the game since D1. I dont like the Flash sight on Ogma, but I like the perk pool for certain builds. Overall LW pulses are not in a great place, but with certain perks they can be good. KC makes them a threat for anything but a t10 resil titan, especially with overshields.
Attrition Orbs scales on mag size for weapons that have it. It is better on weapons that have shorter "time to empty" (i.e. SMGs) and terrible on the ones that take longer (i.e. Trace Rifles). Otherwise it's not worth it when a Siphon mod is going to give you more mileage because the orb is puny and only good for armor charge/leg mods.
I'll keep the one from last year. I got killing wind with kill clip and golden tricorn in the other slots and golden tri corn can two burst most guardians. I love it and it slaps. But i do agree the muzzle flash needs to be toned down.
I kept an Encore/Tricorn roll from last year. Do last year's versions have that nasty muzzle flash or just the current ones? Because I'm tempted to bust it out for a spin, but I don't want to be blinded with each trigger pull
Still have your god rolls, waiting on the fix still. Especially with stasis season; I’m REALLY hoping the IB party mode is good, I intend to run it as stasis this time.
Muzzle flash has been like this for over a year. I posted on the forums and got a response that they would forward the info to a team member. Was really hoping to see it fixed in the patch before dawning. Fucking bungie really sucks at fixing things.
Stay Frosty was one of my go-to stasis primaries from last Dawning up to lightfall. Felt good to me just at base, and with encore revved up it felt even more great. But lightfall gave it that awful flash and it's been in my vault ever since.
The muzzle flash has been awful for a while. I pulled mine out about a year ago. It makes the weapon unusable. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not holding my breath for a fix 🙁
I dont know if it was changed or not but i used to love seet sorrow. Hadnt used it for awhile and brought it out. The flash was horrible. I said no immediately.
Got my first drop, saw the muzzle flash, trashed it and will never need one ever again. Garbage. How could someone wanna shoot through that blue flash thing?
Hope they fix it. When everything is going it's so fun to use
I am more of a PvE player, but this thing feels like a good "baseline" pulse.
But it's nothing special in PvE, and I wish events like the Dawning had something more to offer in that area.
Add crisis inverted to that list
I wanted to like this gun, last year I got moving target, kill clip but the flash there was brutal. I was so sad
Cool Guy, if you can pin this if possible. I did post about the muzzle flash to the help forums about a month ago and Bungie help is tracking it and working on a fix. No eta when that will be though.
Thank you for doing that!
They need to fix crisis inverted as well. Maybe it’s an omolan thing
I posted about the muzzle flash last year and it never gained any traction.
Muzzle flash on the Legendary Trace Rifles is freakin attack too
Muzzle flash on the new Strand slug shotgun is also absolutely BLINDING. Huge green flash across the screen every time you fire. With Cascade Point it's an issue for sure.
The muzzle flash update happened exactly when Lightfall released. Me and my friend love the gun and were using it in the days after the release and noticed how awful the muzzle flash was.
I can attest. Immediately after lightfall dropped, I was farming legend lost sectors with stay frosty and I had to put it away. The muzzls flash was very disorienting
I used to love sweet sorrow but I can't handle the flash anymore
It looks cool aesthetic wise but functionally it's a nightmare
that explains a lot. i had a PvP roll in the vault i hadnt used since before LF. couldnt stand the muzzle flash and wondered how i managed to get so many kills
My favorite part of these is the fact you can get four perks on it with the vendor upgrades. I have one from last year that fits both PVE and PVP with completely different perks. With tight vault space, it’s VERY welcomed
I was testing Ballidorse Wrathweavers with Emp Rift and Stay Frosty last week, it's pretty sweet popping rift and getting instant 2x Stasis Surge + Empowering Rift to soften up TTK and crit requirements, and you can chain right into Kill Clip with that for some pretty amazing performances. Also, particularly great with Shadebinder, if you spec into a high range Stay Frosty, Whisper of Hedrons goes HARD on this one. Killing Wind (or Encore) + Kill Clip gets you incredible reach. It's truly a great one. Here's hoping they fix that muzzle flash ASAP.
Also, really good pairing with Tessellation when running Ballidorse :)
I've got over 2K kills on my older edition with Chambered / High Cal / Encore / Kill Clip. It's a phenomenal gun.
1:00 Damn it, CoolGuy!
I had used it before you uploaded and didn’t notice anything, now I can’t unsee it!
it wasn't just me. i have some good rolls, but the muzzle flash made no sense.
I love my Stay Frosty that I got last year. Has Arrowhead Break, Ricochet Rounds, Tunnel Vision/Encore and Desperado.
I have been using stay frosty for about a year now. I've really enjoyed having it as a daily driver. I tried 5 different rolls, including the roll you suggested, but I landed on tunnel vision/ kill clip. It feels good to me. Feels like I can't miss.
yep i noticed this acouple months ago. I put it on when the range changes happened to test it and was like wtf has it always been this hard to see when shooting this thing
Thank you for just starting the video right away. I always loved that about your channel
Played against you the other night on Midtown! It’s a little unreal seeing myself in one of your videos. Keep up the great work man!
one of the only cc to sing the true praise of this gun, glad it's getting some recognition here. fix the muzzle and it'll go back to being my most used primary just like last year. One thing, it did lose out on ricochet rounds for accurized, if that changes what you look for from last year
Thank you, I really want to use this thing in PvP but the muzzle flash, oh my god the muzzle flash... It makes it really hard to use effectively. I really hope they fix it soon.
I absolutely agree, and IMO it is the best feeling lightweight pulse in the kinetic slot!
Thoughts on desperado on stay frosty? I had one with encore/desp and it ripped, now I have one with enlightened/desp or headstone and I love it.
I missed the Dawning last year because my back was messed up. This year, I am GETTING a roll of this gun.
Ricochet rounds will be missed😢
Dec 2024, still loving encore KC!! Thank you cool guy!
i know you didnt mentioned this but we also lost high cal and ric rounds too this seasion, so no added flinch or bouncing bullets off a wall.
butt ,, okay sure we did get acrized rounds witch is a solid 10 range ((i think)) and that bumps up your kill range. i still prefer the other 2...
Ricochet is +5 range and +10 stability. Imo it's better than accurized. Kinda unfortunate they changed it to accurized
I’m still running one with Encore and Desperado from last year. Forgot how great it is when the perks kick in!
I have three encore pulses: Messenger[+kill clip], Jorum's Claw[+golden tricorn], & Psi Hermetic[+perpetual motion]. That Messenger is a couple of yrs old as the perk doesn't seem to roll with it anymore.
I played a game of trials with you this weekend against some sweatys PvP titan smg mains and just wanna say I feel so blessed now😎
Wondering if there's anything in the graphics settings that can help the muzzle flash. Thanks for the review of the new perks. I kept a lot of these from last season, but wittled down to 4 to make room for the new ones. Glad I kept at least one with ricochet since that's gone, but it's a desparado roll, so maybe that will come back some day. The one I actually use is an encore with kill clip and headseeker options, with good range. Headseeker is what I tend towards, but that's when I'm doing 3s in crucible, then forget to switch back to kc when I'm in 6s again. Excited to save up and try for new rolls this season!
A great example of Bungie failing its player base. Any Dev at Bungie who actually plays this game has to know how terrible the muzzle flash is making the weapon basically unusable. This is the difference between a responsive healthy organization with solid leadership and one with very poor leadership. Healthy leadership - fixed immediately - Unhealthy leadership - not fixed.
My Roll is Encore Headseeker. I know its unusual to pair win now per with win later perk, most people like to lean all the way into one.
But this weapon is so good out of the box, as you identified, Encore is such an S-Tier perk on it, because it turns it into a MONSTER. The Stability and Range. The accuracy. it vaccums headshots. I've found that Encore and headseeker are both good enough on their own to justify pairing a win now with a win later perk. They still manage to enhance each other. When you get Encore up you become a .80ish TTK Machine. Its almost impossible not to hit your peak TTK. with both perks going. Very fun to chain.
I kept an Arrow/Ricochet/Encore/Kclip and an Arrow/Ricochet/Moving/Headseaker from last year. I love them. I also have an Arrow/Ricochet/Encore/Headstone roll for PvE. Omolon weapons rock! I'll be searching for similar with more range or new perk combos this year.
That muzzle flash,- Oh god my eyes, the goggles ze do nothing!!
I used to love this pulse and then they added that muzzle flash and I haven't used it since. Was hoping they'd fix it before Dawning but oh well
I still have last year's KC/ moving target or killing wind with high impact rnds. Loved it then.
You’d probably love and hate my Stay Frosty, CoolGuy. I got this last year. 😅
For barrels, I have corkscrew and hammer forged. (I choose corkscrew)
For mags, it’s either appended or light mag. (I have appended)
Then I have 4 perks.
Encore / Killing Wind
Desperado / Kill Clip
Masterwork is handling.
shoutout to launch Arc Logic muzzle flash, only thing that comes close to how obnoxious this thing's flash was
I was pretty gobsmacked when the event started and I excitedly grabbed my stay frosty that I loved before the bug, thinking “oh they will for sure have reviewed the gun before the season, noticed it’s bugged and fix it, why would they add a bugged gun as a seasonal reward. That would just make it seem like they didn’t care”…….
If checkmate is the future, you can safely delete all pulse rifles in your vault and stock up on yet more hand cannons.
It's like a flashbang going off in your face everytime you shoot.
Anyone else notice when using these outside of the dawning, dawning surprise doesn’t proc, and there’s no mention that it’s event specific?
I feel muzzle flash in general gets a look at, some guns just feel awful to use due to their muzzle flash, and/or makes it hard to track targets
I’ve had the same issue with Drang since its release. Love the gun, but the muzzle flash gives me a headache when using it too long
That bright muzzle flash is why I don't really like many arc weapons. Sweet sorrow should be one of my favourite weapons in the game but I find it jarring. I always gravitate towards kinetic, solar and void primaries.
i just got the weapon it hurts my eyes
This reminds me of the Arc Logic days where I loved using the gun but the muzzle flash was obnoxious. They did eventually fix it so I hope they do the same here.
My 2nd favourite pulse after Ogma.
I have a moving target/tricorn and moving target headseeker and I win with them even though I suck.
Most of my favourite 540s and L/Weights have 17 zoom but this and Ogma have 18 and 19 respectively.
I don’t know if zoom is meaningless now but my brain still believes in it.
The muzzle flash issue is something that has been patched previously, but returned with the release of a new season(I think light fall?)
I still have my OG roll with hammer forged, ricochet rds, moving target, KClip, and range MW.
It has the same range as yours but with 62 stability and 67 handling. It doesn't appear that the new version can roll ricochet rds, which is kind of a bummer.
I remember wanting to like this more but every time I try to use it the muzzle flash issue comes back. Still a fun gun though and could be improved with the newest range changes.
Yes please mention the muzzle flash ahhhh! Its such a nice weapon but the muzzle flash :[
Ouch with that muzzle flash. This was a fantastic weapon on release. 😢
Besides encore why would i use this over a crafted chattering bone? Kill klip / rampage or headseeker seems like a better deal to me. I'll hunt one just because you said so though! Thanks for all that you do for this comunity!
The new stasis trace rifle has the same flash issue
I noticed that the sweet business flash seems higher than usually as well. This might be a recurring problem on other weapons.
Just got my first ever stay frosty from the stasis kills triumph and it dropped moving target headseeker stablity MW its got 33 range 87 stability and its melting rn i can go 38 range 77 stab but the 87 is too good
Its been this way for a while. Its why i deleted them all from my vault when i needed room. Im not going to use a weapon that makes it so i can't see shit while i shoot.
I have a Well Rounded+Headstone from last year and it's unfortunate they removed Well Rounded. In sixes, it felt really good to throw a nade, usually Duskfield, before an engagement and then crack the crystal from Headstone to trigger Whisper of Shards
I thought it has that muzzle flash issue last year
Stay Frosty feels great to use. I already have so many godrolls of this thing during the dawning event I dont know which ones to keep.
The roll I use in PvE is Adpative Munitions to shred barrier champ shields (does up to 500% more damage to them). Adaptive Munitions and what else? Well.. all other perks are kill activated perks (besides moving target), so basically I only have Adaptive Munitions as a perk. This roll makes the weapon more of a tool than a gun for killing stuff, so I was looking forward to it getting a perk refresh with some neutral game perks in the third column to go with Adaptive Munitions.
Buuuut they removed Adaptive Munitions with the perk refresh. Now there's only Under Over (+125% damage to barrier champ shields). They did add Enlightened Action to the third column though, which gives you +50 handling and reload after landing 5 bullets.
Gonna be farming that roll for PvE. +125% damage to barriers while having 100 handling and reload speed is pretty nice for GMs
Good thing I kept my well rounded golden tricorn roll. 😍
The messenger originally had encore on it before Frosty
Really wish collective action and headstone were in different columns with this gun
💯💯💯💯
Bygones have that muzzle flash problem too 😔
They fixed that
@@Zurrke nah they didn't. the flash is still a problem.
@@ReconSpades I use mine all the time, it's nowhere near as bad as it once was. Maybe it's because I use an ornament?
I still have my killing wind/encore headseeker/ kill clip double perks roll
Love your honest reviews
Guarantee they will probably fix this one’s muzzle flash but still not fix the trace rifle muzzle flash that has been round since season of the deep…
You should do a match with Stay Frosty + Crisis Inverted + any caster sword
Today’s the day!🎉
Don’t think it was the first with Encore. Got an old Messenger with Encore before the buff.
I tried using it yesterday but the muzzle flash actually made me feel sick. Hope they fix it soon
Don’t sleep on Encore/Headstone in PvE - the headstone burst killing adds can give you instant 4/4 Encore stacks making it a damn laser beam afterwards for another precision kill. Rinse and repeat.
This is completely disconnected from the video, but you know what perk I wish they'd bring back from D1? Battle Runner. Getting maxed out mobility for a period of time after a kill is just nice. I'm not sure if Killing Wind is just Battle Runner but better in terms of stat gains, but I miss Battle Runner. That's all.
Disappointed that they removed high cal and ricochet rounds from this pulse. Its a pulse that I have kept a few rolls of from last year and enjoy using from time to time. It always surprises me how good it feels. Especially compared to Ogma, which is also a LW pulse that I like. I attribute it to the Torch sight, which has been my favorite sight in the game since D1. I dont like the Flash sight on Ogma, but I like the perk pool for certain builds.
Overall LW pulses are not in a great place, but with certain perks they can be good. KC makes them a threat for anything but a t10 resil titan, especially with overshields.
Omolon lightweight pulses be hitting good ngl.
You could make any off-meta weapon interesting. Well done.
does last year's version have this flash or just the new one?
I loved this gun! I could not figure out why it felt horrible. That flash kills it. Love your content! Go chiefs!
If you want a wild muzzle flash, shoot this on the elevator during the strike with the Witch on the moon. Freaking insane.
Just got a roll with smallbore, accurized, range mw, tunnel vision desperado. So sad desperado blows
Luv this pulse
Attrition Orbs scales on mag size for weapons that have it. It is better on weapons that have shorter "time to empty" (i.e. SMGs) and terrible on the ones that take longer (i.e. Trace Rifles). Otherwise it's not worth it when a Siphon mod is going to give you more mileage because the orb is puny and only good for armor charge/leg mods.
I'll keep the one from last year. I got killing wind with kill clip and golden tricorn in the other slots and golden tri corn can two burst most guardians. I love it and it slaps. But i do agree the muzzle flash needs to be toned down.
I kept an Encore/Tricorn roll from last year. Do last year's versions have that nasty muzzle flash or just the current ones?
Because I'm tempted to bust it out for a spin, but I don't want to be blinded with each trigger pull
Still have your god rolls, waiting on the fix still. Especially with stasis season; I’m REALLY hoping the IB party mode is good, I intend to run it as stasis this time.
This slaps in final shape meta
Tunnel desperado is the way to go no questions asked
Muzzle flash has been like this for over a year. I posted on the forums and got a response that they would forward the info to a team member. Was really hoping to see it fixed in the patch before dawning. Fucking bungie really sucks at fixing things.
Which are better? Rapid or light weight?
I hope it gets fixed and I got your ideal roll but with stability instead of range mw 😭😭😭
Stay Frosty was one of my go-to stasis primaries from last Dawning up to lightfall. Felt good to me just at base, and with encore revved up it felt even more great. But lightfall gave it that awful flash and it's been in my vault ever since.
I have never seen a controller user stick to fullbore as much as you do. I worship stability, if the gun has less than 60, i dont want it
The muzzle flash has been awful for a while. I pulled mine out about a year ago. It makes the weapon unusable. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not holding my breath for a fix 🙁
Wait, are you saying they managed to make the muzzle flash even worse?
Thank you so much for pointing this horrible muzzle flash out! I love this weapon but can’t use it as it sits.
I farmed for machabre and didn't get the roll I wanted I wish I could continue to farm it somehow
its so slept on
That screen flinch is Grosse!
Muzzle flash is getting fixed!
I dont know if it was changed or not but i used to love seet sorrow. Hadnt used it for awhile and brought it out. The flash was horrible. I said no immediately.
The thing I am asking is why would I go for this when nightshade exists.
What pve roll would you want
As an old granny with poor vision, this gun is unusable. Right up there with Arc Logic for bloom and flash. Wish Bungie would fix
Omega or Ozmega whatever is just as good and just as happy to land crits.
Got my first drop, saw the muzzle flash, trashed it and will never need one ever again. Garbage. How could someone wanna shoot through that blue flash thing?