Prometheus & the Stolen Flame || Mythology w/ Dael Kingsmill
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This time on MonarchsFactory we're revisiting the story of Prometheus, how he created humanity, tricked Zeus, and stole fire from the heavens.
The sources for this story are Hesiod's 'Theogony' and Aeschylus' 'Prometheus Bound'.
You can find a translation of the texts here:
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Edited by Omar Najam: www OmarNajam
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Zeus: Find me an Immortal willing to die.
Heracles: Oh that's super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Prometheus: Freedom is tight!
Good to know all of us nerds pretty much watch the same channels on RUclips xD
Zeus thinks People are Ugly? Sure does a 180 on that...
Women hadn't been invented yet at the time.
@@nessesaryschoolthing that explains it.
To be fair, when they were first created, humans were bulbous creatures with four legs, four arms and two heads. They also used to have three genders; male, female and male-female. They were very powerful back then, until the gods became afraid that they would storm Mt. Olympus. So Zeus cut them all in half and had Apollo sew them back up at the back, then turn their heads around so their back became their front, giving us our current form. We still have navels as a deliberate leftover of this sewing process. After being separated, humans were a lot weaker, but they also wouldn't worship the gods or even try to survive at all because they missed being joined, so Zeus instructed Apollo to place their genitals at their fronts so they could temporarely join in an embrace that mimicked their previous form, satisfy each other, and move on. Apollo also gave this process a reproductive function, which had been unneccessary until now because humans just jumped out of a hole in the ground. This is also why we have sexuality, as everyone is looking to have this embrace with their former counterpart, so former males seek out other males, former females other females, and former male-females seek out people of the opposite sex.
@@martijnvanweele6204 That´s somewhat disturbing. Great story, very well told. But disturbing.
@@terryfan15 huh that's how people are different. i just found it's really interesting
Zeus: Hates people
Also Zeus when he sees women: OwO
LMAO 😂😂😂
Here is a couple other things about Prometheus.
In honor of the act of bringing fire to humanity, the Athenians instituted a race, during which runners of the same team passed between them a flaming torch until the last runner of the winning team had the privilege to use it to kindle the sacrificial fire on the altar of Athena on the Acropolis. This, of course, marked the origin of both relay races and the modern Olympic flame ceremony.
In addition to the theft of fire, Zeus had one more reason to be mad at Prometheus. Namely, having the ability of precognition, Prometheus was the only one who knew the identity of the mortal woman Zeus wasn’t allowed to sleep with since it had been prophesied that the offspring of this marriage was destined to overthrow his father. And the Titan wasn’t interested in telling Zeus anything more than this for no reason whatsoever.
The first people created by Prometheus were at one point wiped out almost completely from the face of the earth by a Great Flood sent by Zeus. The only two of them to survive were Prometheus’ son Deucalion and his wife, Pyrrha. Afterward, these two repopulated the earth by throwing stones over their shoulders, which then magically turned into men and women. I guess this was a divine power that Deucalion inherited from his father.
Mum's always win, them is the rules we did not write them just live with them :)
"And quite frankly, my mum wins." Yep, Amen.
There was that whole part of the trickery/punsihment between Zeus and Prometheus that resulted in his brother Epimetheus being given Pandora and the box and all those shenanigans thereafrer xD But we'd be here till tomorrow if you included all that haha.
I actually did a drama devised piece about this story, it was a lot of fun. Great take on it Dael, awesome work as always.
Did you email this to your grandma?
In the version I remember reading, Zeus gets the other Olympians on board with prometheus's punishment by claiming that he violated Athena.
It was also partially his way of punishing her, by ruining her reputation, since she helped Prometheus
Years later, Kronos paid a visit to Prometheus chained to the rock and played him a song to cheer him up:
"IT'S LIKE RAAA-AAIN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY..."
Do you know any Australian aboriginal myths?
Ive heard some fantastic origin stories from them.
> forgot something
The version, where Prometheus is freed because he warns Zeus not to marry Thetis?
Great videos btw.
In which: Prometheus invents haggis? You know what else was made of tripe? The white fronting on the Tok'ra costumes on "Stargate: SG1" were actually made out of dried tripe. That's why the "fabric" had such a unique looking texture. Peter DeLouise gave the fact away on a special feature. He said when a Tok'ra actor asked too many questions, he'd say (approx): "Look, you're a guy wearing a shirt made of tripe! Just say the line so we can move on."
To be fair, beef has a lot more flavor when cooked with the fan still on it.
This is legit my new favourite series on RUclips right now
The version I remember is that Prometheus and his brother Epimetheus created the people and animals together, but Epimetheus used up all tbe fur on the animals so the people didn't have a way to keep warm, so they needed the fire.
Ooh. Planescape adventure idea. A cult to Prometheus destroys a temple to Zeus in Sigil.
Thanks!
Living on the east coast of the US sucks because if I’m not on YT at 10 at night or later, I can’t get to your videos early. That and humidity.
You forgot the part where zues had all of humanity (who had 2 heads, 4 arms and 4 legs) torn limb from limb, and Apollo felt bad about them and sewed them back together, but each only half so zeus wouldn't get pissed. Hence, soul mates
I always felt that Prometheus and Zeus is a bit like Satan and God. I think Prometheus' name is an ironic one. He lacked foresight. He couldn't see that giving humans knowledge, that they didn't figure out for themselves, has resulted in the corrupt society we see today: the fall of paradise. Christianity has the same theme. Satan defied God to give humans knowledge to their detriment: the fall of paradise and the beginning of sin.
The liver punishment is interesting too. It tells me the ancient Greeks must have known of the regenerative properties of the liver - one of only two organs to do so.
YAY! Your pictures are back! I missed them so much. But like...don't push yourself to do pictures for every video
Luckily, since G&S took down my old videos, I get to use the cartoons I already made for them, so we're at least covered for a little while yet :)
Great video! Those illustrations were just perfect little accents to the story.
I have nothing further to add except: the song goes “Viva Las Vegas”.
Very cool rendition. Love your stuff.
You look so incredibly happy in the thumbnail, and the story about Prometheus is not really a very happy one. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
I remember watching these when you did them originally! Nice to see you making them again :-)
I could listen to you for hours... thank's Dael
200 years from now people are going to be looking through the viddy records and citing Kingsmill's _Tales from Mythology_ as source material.
I don’t know if you ever heard of it but
You definitely need to tell the stories on German children’s book, Struwwelpeter.
You can find it in English easily online.
you are such a good storyteller
I don't know if you do this in Australia but in the US factories sometimes have signs with X days since the last accident. Now yours has to read "It has been 1 day(s) since our last accident.". :)
Yaay, I have been waiting for Prometheus
Thumbs up for the stars, they make everything better.
That fan had it coming
Please do the story of Lleu Llaw Gyffes! It's one of my favorite Welsh myths.
Actually cow stomach used to be the key ingredient in cheese.
Still is, you gotta get rennet somewhere. They have artificial stuff now, but it's more expensive.
@@Myzelfa there's also a vegetable rennet that is common nowdays. (when there's even cheese in the cheese)
"Titanomachia" is one of the sexiest thing I've ever heard a woman say.
Have you done a talk on Pandora's Box? Would love to see your presentation on it.
Was it the bit about the ring containing a pebble from the mountains that you missed? I think I remember that from your last Prometheus video and thought it was pretty cool.
I did too! Unfortunately I came at the story through a different train of sources this time and, with it being so long since I last told it and me short on time, couldn't find the source I cited for that last time around.
Thumbs up for your mum suggesting it, because mum wins. Period.
you are one super underrated :)
That's the most complete retelling I've seen yet.
Chiron gets his back on Heracles. Next video?
I mean there was that whole bit of Pandora and her Pithos/Jar/Box and releasing all the evils unto the world. No biggie that.
You left out the bit where Zeus, in order to punish men for having fire, creates women.
That's gotta be a whole other episode, I have a lot of thoughts about how much Hesiod hates women
@@MonarchsFactory Not just Hesiod, but most of ancient Greek society. At any rate, I can't wait for your thoughts.
Regarding Pandora, I've recently had the thought that the significance of Hope being in the jar is not that it was there to begin with (which seems to bother most people), but that it didn't get out. If it had gotten out, it might have offset some of the really bad things.
HAHAHAHAHA
Prometheus is best boi.
If Zeus hates humans, why did he have so many spawns with them?
Damn I love this channel. ❤️
I love the myth of Prometheus. my favorite💞
Tripe-ophobia? Golden, I'm not gonna let that pun go unappreciated!
Trypophobia is an actual phobia. I have it, and so don't want to describe it, but it's real, look it up. I do think the name may come from tripe, though.
Ah, my favorite story.
I was eating while watching this, waiting for you to pop a picture of cow stomach up on the screen.
This is how you know it's a myth. The gods think that tripe is bad. mmmm tripe stew.. reminds me of home.
Have you read Stephen Fry's retellings of the Greek myths? They're pretty good (not as good as yours, but still pretty good).
Oh yeah, the simpler days where mountains had keys and didn't need a puzzle to enter... (looking at you Tolkien)
Prometheus was punished by the gods for giving the gift of knowledge to man he was cast into the bowl of the earth and pecked by birds
Oh, thank the gods. My subscription feed has been so slow ......
Also, i'd really love to see you take up some celtic mythology. The irish and welsh myths in particular are just nuts.
Have you ever thought about doing mythology vieos on other cultures? There are plenty of nice myths, I would recommend the chinese myth of Ranka(or Ranke) and the Brazilian myth of the "Boto cor de rosa" :)
Hi dael!
Great content, I love it, you have opened up the flame for mithology I had as a kid
I have a question. Where you go to read up on all of that ?
Is there a book that is like "Greek mythology, full, from star to finish", or it it necessary to kynda find bits and pieces spread all around?
Thank you
I am glad you asked - my very favourite compendium of Greek myths is the Robin Hard 'Routledge handbook of Greek mythology'. I'm certain that it misses out on small bits and pieces here and there, but it's always my first port of call when researching a myth, and rare is the event when I go to look a story up and find the Routledge Handbook doesn't include it. It can, I should warn you, be a little academic in the way it approaches the subject. It still tells the stories, and quite enjoyably, but if you're looking for more of a story telling vibe, maybe something different would be less complete but a better fit. I hear good things about Stephen Fry's 'Mythos' in that regard. But yes, the Routledge Handbook has served me well and always tells me where to look if I want to check the source material myself. :)
@@MonarchsFactory thank you so much!
And for the quick response!
Anything like that but for Norse mythology?
Anyway you are awesome and should feel awesome :3
You're welcome! I haven't found anything for Norse that I personally find quite as thorough and satisfying, I still tend toward translations of the poetic and prose eddas there.
Can you do a Trojan war video?
In Zeus’ defense; same.
"One of them is Kratos!"
Yes. Yes it is. Hell. Yes.
You are somehow the first person I've EVER heard identify Kratos as a real Greek god.
(not counting textbooks and stuff as "people", obviously)
Ooph, Dael! Gotta be careful with those overly intense fans in your line of work.
Bad joke is bad and I love it.
if i was the guy making up the fire myth i'd have prometheus go down to greece and pretend to be a human and start shit talking about zeus at the base of mount Olympus. when zeus throws a lightning bolt WOOPSIE it lights the grass on fire, "you just gave fire to the humans, zeus, no take backsies!" then zeus finally recognizes him and does the whole eagle liver thing.
4:46 Tripe? Looks vaguely like waffles, tbh.
YEETUS DELETUS
Bashed you hand on a fan? Did you knock them out?
Wasn't there a bit where Zeus splits people into two halves, or is that a pop-culture adition to the greek mythology?
It's kind of a half way point, actually! That story comes from a philosophical text by Plato called Symposium, in which Plato writes from the point of view of Apollodorus telling the story of a bunch of people talking at a party, one of whom is Arostophanes who tells this story. So a little more complicated than it needs to be. Framing it through Apollodorus works to give it a mythological vibe (since he was the first to put together a collection of Greek mythological tales), and framing it through Aristophanes signals that it's probably intended to be somewhat satirical (since he was a comic playwright). It's not actually a story from Greek mythology, but was written to kind of mimic Greek origin myths. So, basically, it is a pop-culture addition to Greek mythology, just one from ~380BC.
@@MonarchsFactory Isn't all mythology pop culture though?
Monarch alert.... CLICK
Us being lovely, no you are lovely.
Trickster gods can be neutral good.
Nah man, CHAOTIC GOOD
only by accident
Mediator more like meatiator, ammirighhhhtttt?!
wait he got away
I love you
You're the best
I love you
Could we get australian aboriginal myths?
But how dos Prometheus die? Or is he still around? Somewhere
No Greek deity ever properly dies save, perhaps, the great god Pan
What's the story behind the mermaid on the shelf?
Well... My cousin got me in the Chrissy draw last year and wanted to buy me this cool mermaid knife, but the package got delayed and didn't arrive in time. So, morning of, he went and bought a mermaid Barbie, took the blade out of a steak knife, and "did some forging" to combine the two. I call her Stabitha.
@@MonarchsFactory Stabitha? Brilliant! I knew her story couldn't be ordinary.
Thanks for responding.
Have you read the book circe? it's a feminist retelling of Circe's story. It was really good imo and I think you'd like it
A fan? Is it that hot in September? It's not even really spring for another week. Eh, whatever, hope your hand feels better.
Haha, I just never moved it out of my room after last summer
@@MonarchsFactory That makes sense. Also, you should do TED talks again.
This through me off because I’m in SC and it’s like 90 during the day rn lol
Do Jesus next
Prometheus carrying fire from Olympus to earth should be filmed in slo-mo and set to chariots of fire. Just sayin.
Mums can be scary, so why are stepmums more scary?
I fancy you quite a bit
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U did forget the creation of women and how zues tricked Prometheus’ brother while terribly sexist it does show how some Greeks thought of women at the time
4 likes but no views 😂
Two commentaries but there is only yours
why you gotta be so cute?