Strength and Conditioning Coach here. Some things id like to add about Turinabol. Turinabol is NOT a weak steroid and is definitely better than drugs like D-ball referenced in this video. T-ball has an actuate effect on the nervous system, making explosive movements a lot easier and increasing total blood volume, which can increase one's cardio. The second effect being secondary to the primary function of the drug. It also has an incredibly short half-life, making it a fantastic drug if you want to run a compound in-between drug tests. Turinabol is NOT a cheap drug, it was not in a tainted supplement because it costs far more to produce than any over-the-counter supplement. He took it because it works and the likelihood of getting caught is low, not zero, but low.
Thanks for the added context. The short half life is something I read about while researching the video, but again, it's something I'm not that well versed in.
@@rpe11allthingsstrength Can you make some more comments about steroid cycles for MMA? It's an interesting topic that very few people are willing to talk openly about
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It’s still something that just baffles and frustrates me to seemingly no end. It’s fucking dystopian. Never seen anything like it. The good news is that time will not be kind to Jon Jones’ character and his precious, often self-referenced legacy. It’s already happening with videos like this and it’s only going to get worse and more common. The more a liar talks, the more opportunities it gives for people to catch them in their lies and dissolve doubt. The more time passes, the more people can do effective detective work - where people, from different walks and trades of life (even showcased in this very comment section!) slowly come together, educate each other in passing, gather and look at all the evidence and “slip-ups” up to this point, and paint an more accurate picture that we’re all feeling but just can’t prove yet. Videos like in this series are only going to get more accurate, more packed with info, and inspire and educate others to then pass it to other people. You can’t get away with things like you used to. The internet is too smart and too connected. It just takes time, focus, and the right people coming together at the right moments.
Ignorance is bliss, one + maybe give the benefit of doubt,Him having multiple! Positive test makes the excuses to hard to believe. The go to excuse of tainted supplements is also a red flag. Guys like Bisping have used tons of supplements over many years and never had 1 + test. A man’s character can tell you a lot about will or won’t do. A guy who will use cocaine a week before a fight , hides under a ring to avoid testing, hits a pregnant woman while driving drunk and high, doesn’t check on her but runs back to his vehicle to grab his stash then flee, plus other things he’s done . Does this sound like a guy who wouldn’t do steroids? Especially when there’s little chance of being caught? 🤣PLEASE. Where there’s smoke there’s 🔥 and that boi hotboxin . Usada is employed by the UFC , need I say more on why they changed their tune and now DON’T have to report violations.
44:36 "A cheater is something that I'll never ever admit to" Interesting choice if words. I know if I genuinely didn't do something and was innocent, like murder. I definitely wouldn't say "I'd never admit to being a murderer". I'd say something like"I'll never BE a murderer" or "I'd never murder anybody". You can only "admit" to something you've actually done and harbor guilt over.
@@SonglyWryt.Bon-Burr Joe’s MMA takes have become weaker over time. When I heard him constantly say Illia better be careful with Ryan Hall on his back while Topuria was literally picking Hall apart was when I stopped taking his analysis serious.
Jon misspoke in a similar way after the DC fight, he said "I beat DC when I was off of steroids". Who says "when I was off steroids" if they were never on them. I've never taken steroids, so I can't be off them, he's snitched on himself like this quite a few times but most his fans are too stupid to realize.
Cormier being KOed with the head kick and crying afterwards in the cage is still the most heartbreaking moment in UFC hands down. That and Frankie being KOed in his final fight as well.
Thank you for this series! Revisiting all this stuff, I remembered how I used to find it odd that Jones never just embraced the bad guy role. But the fact that he always tried to present himself as this stand up person, while being horrible outside the cage, and the best mma fighter of all time, makes him a more interesting character.
It's a real conundrum. Jon is undeniably a narcissist and I think part of that narcissism was truly believing that he was a good guy, who just made mistakes. But in recent years, he seems to have shifted to presenting himself as bad guy who is trying to overcome his faults.
He’s kind of like a Walter White or Barry type character (or Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov for Crime and Punishment fans) - narcissistic & supremely focused on meeting their goals and fulfilling their ego, to the undeniable detriment of everyone around them, yet still believing in their own ultimate goodness in spite of the harm they continually inflict. They think because they feel bad about what they do that it makes them still redeemable. They have to cling to that belief for the sake of their own ego, otherwise they’ll lose the one thing that allows them to act with impunity. They know deep down that a bad guy doesn’t deserve to win - but they *need* to win. Therefore they can never accept that they’re the bad guy. Also let’s face it, it feels good to be the continual underdog even though you’re the best fighter in the game. People root for you in spite of your dominance because they want to see you turn your life around. It’s really a genius maneuver, even if it’s all subconscious on Jon’s part.
At long last, the quadrillogy comes full circle, courtesy of the Beige one himself. I must have missed Jones saying Towelgate was one of the "dirtiest things ever seen in sports." Man oh man! Pot, meet kettle. I'm not done with the video yet, but this is shaping up to be one of your very best, Beige Frequency. Really compelling stuff.
@@astuteandy I pointed out the logical fallacy in the original "whenever people" statement. The statement says nothing about Jones and i did not either. "Either that, or they are innocent. Both is possible" does not by any means "literally insinuate" anything about Jones in particular. I wrote "they" and it exactly is supposed to mean what it says. This is not so much about language skills but about critical thinking abilities. You can desperately try to be "right" or you can learn something. Up to you.
I said this in another reply about why JJ never owned the bad guy character - but I’ll put it here too because it came to me after watching probably a dozen JJ breakdown videos: Jon Jones is almost like a Walter White or Barry type character (or Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov for Crime and Punishment fans) - narcissistic & supremely focused on meeting their goals and fulfilling their ego, to the undeniable detriment of everyone around them, yet still believing in their own ultimate goodness in spite of the harm they continually inflict. They think because they feel bad about what they do that it makes them still redeemable. They have to cling to that belief for the sake of their own ego, otherwise they’ll lose the one thing that allows them to act with impunity. They know deep down that a bad guy doesn’t deserve to win - nevertheless they *need* to win. Therefore they can never accept that they’re the bad guy. Also let’s face it, it feels good to be the continual underdog even though you’re the best fighter in the game. People root for you in spite of your dominance because they want to see you turn your life around. It’s really a genius maneuver, even if it’s all subconscious on Jon’s part.
Even though I knew the story, the way you talked about DC and his age and him not getting closure made me feel the same sadness all over again. I really do not understand how people can still be Jon Jones fans and I hope by some miracle he will stand in front of Ngannou in the octagon and I hope he will get ktfo.
I await his downfall. It is inevitable. And I will be there to gloat. A guy like him will have a horrendous outcome, whether its drugs, out of the ring violence, running out of money. It will be something.
@@umarb7325DC is not a massive prick though who could have killed a pregnant woman and wasn't even self aware enough to pretend to be sorry years later on rogan talking about it. He was still just referring to that crash about how bad it was for him. He is cold.
Another excellent video. I feel a little older seeing all this Jon Jones stuff after living through it and being a massive mma fan. Looking forward to part 5
Same. This kind of thing happens often for me these days. Haha. Seeing any kind of sports footage from 10 years ago or more makes me feel old. Lol especially when the footage even looks old and dated for whatever reason even though it’s not that old.
All I can tell you is this: Daniel Cormier worked his ass off for 214. He never had a camp that good again, not even when he won the HW title from Stipe. And I wasn't a big fan of D.C.'s because I thought he was a bit self-righteous. He wanted people to talk about the work he put in. But if you had _seen_ the way he worked, you'd have no choice but to say "ahh, he's going for it!" For him to do all of that for nothing, which is what 'no contest' really means, I couldn't help but feel bad for the guy.
Can’t wait for pt5 w his controversial Reyes/santos wins, the Vegas HOF night incident, then his 3yr absence for “weight gain” & his return against gane where it seemed the entire mma world was so glad to have him back none of the other stuff mattered.
I've prayed for times like this, finally the jones docummentary continues Truly the best of stuff Also the fact that jon jones of all people calling cormier dirty is one of the funniest things ever
I’m conflicted. The time you take gives us the excellent results of your detailed analysis and documentaries in parts of a series. On the other hand, it takes so long, I forget your RUclips name and find myself obsessively clicking RUclips search for any long video on Jon Jones hoping it’s your next part. I mean I’ve bought two homes in the time it’s taken, yet I’m in awe of your attention to detail on this. Your series will go down as the greatest analysis of Jon Jones from anyone.
While not as interesting, I would love to see a video of Mighty Mouse. With some similarities to Jon's story, a guy who also grew up in very tough conditions, had a very similar run of dominance to Jon, but always showed to be a great guy and a role model and despite this was screwed out of the UFC, only to return better in ONE
It’s so wild that one - a family man whose legacy only grows more appreciated and admired with time, considered one of the all-time greats of the sport (even at the time), and is a true mixed martial artist and consummate professional - was disowned and shipped away by their organization, in his prime, for a fighter, who (and I love you, Ben) is past their prime, whose owner didn’t even *like* before and since… While the other - who has done nothing but cause blemishes, PR headaches, and just be an overall pain in the ass, time and time again, for same-said organization - has been fought tooth-and-nail, end-over-backwards for to be kept around, promoted, and put the existence of entire fight cards on. All for something as small and petty as “not bringing in enough PPV buys as we’d like”.
All the gloating and taunting of DC being an old man by JJ is so stupid to me, the man is considered old in the sport even back then when he first fought Bones. You really felt the need to take PED"s when you have so many advantages of him anyhow? DC is a true champion in every aspect of the word, faced incredible adversity and persevered to become Double Champ. He's a good man.
Said it time and time again, Jones absolutely robbed DC of his legacy and GOAT status. DC would’ve walked through the LHW division and the HW division probably remaining undefeated throughout. He’ll always be my GOAT though I have no shame in admitting those Helwani and DC podcasts got me through the darkest times in Covid and I’ll always be thankful to him for that.
Let’s be honest. If post-champion Jon Jones was a cop, is there any doubt he’d be the DIRTIEST, abusive, law breaking officer on whatever city’s police force he’s on??? For some reason that idea of him just makes perfect sense to me.
Well, im just glad Jon has seemingly finally learned his lesson, and this will be the last time Jon ever tests positive for a banned substance again. Yep, I am confident that he will never test positive again, and especially not for the exact same substance the literal next time he fights.
It sounds almost insane to think of Jon Jones as a "what if," but Imagine if he hadn't effectively wasted about 6 years of his career... nobody else would even be in the GOAT conversation. That's the great tragedy of Jon's story.
@@BeigeFrequency I think Cormier is an amazing wrestler, and being a former wrestler I root for him, but Jones outclasses him in so many ways. Totally wish we could see that "hypothetical ideal Jones" where he actually took responsibility the first time and didn't act like he believes he is the main character in everyone else's movie. Appreciate your breakdowns as always Beige
@@BeigeFrequency Right, but even that hypothetical question is now tainted because who can truly say that he wasn't juicing the entire time and it was a huge part of his unstoppable rise in the UFC? Jones was never not consumed by a narcissists' sense of invincibility or his many vices. I suppose it's fitting that hubris cost him the legacy all his talent and physicality was primed to achieve.
Interesting facts. In gaming some of the most prolific AND most common cheaters aren't actually bad players. Its the good, to even amazing players that make the absolute best cheaters. Because when you're good at a game, and you understand it, its mechanics and systems, like its anti-cheats, you can find ways to get around being easily spotted. Further, a lot of really good players become entitled to good scores, or good times in speeding running for example. They feel records are OWED to them. I think a case can be made about Jon Jones where a similar situation is true.
29:30 I have to disagree, I think you could easily make the argument that Cormier is the better fighter given that he is a foot shorter and a foot less reach and Jon is juiced to the gills and he still performed pretty well against him, I mean they fought toe to toe for what 7 rounds total before Jones finished him? With like 12" height and reach advantage, younger, and on roids? Like, suuuuure that science project is a better fighter than DC..... Also, I feel that Cormier underperformed most of his career, he fought very pridefully, both against Jones and Stipe, it was entertaining to watch, and I think he liked showing he could stand up and go toe to toe with these larger strikers and it backfired. I mean dude is probably shorter than 5'11" and knocked Jones' mouthpiece out and had him going backwards. Steroids and all.
For sure. I looked it up recently and DC had a reach advantage over 1 person in his UFC career, Roy Nelson. Daniel is genuinely more like 5'8-9". The fact that he was able to hold his own on the feet against guys like Gus, Rumble, Stipe and Jones in spite of his massive reach disadvantage is one of the more impressive feats in MMA. He's probably the best hand fighter in the sport
@@BeigeFrequency Exactly! I actually was just speaking off the cuff, hyperbolically last night, I just looked it up this morning, he legitimately had a 1 foot reach disadvantage against jones, that is not even an exaggeration at all, that is a statement of fact lol ~8" reach disadvantage to Stipe as well, easily outsized his entire career, except against Poor Anderson Silva lol
@@thequinlanshow3326 Not really... Its quite objective actually. Given that he is at such a physical detriment to everyone he's fought, it literally proves that he excelled in skill and toughness, how else did he achieve the success he did? If we wasn't one of the most skilled fighters and toughest fighters of all time, how was he able to beat the fighters that he beat? I don't think there are many 5'9" guys that are KO'ing Stipe, or beating Rumble, Gus, Barnett, Mir, Derrick Lewis... He literally did it all on skill and toughness. Compared to Jones, I can think several fights where I'm confident Jones would have lost if he wasn't on Roids and enjoyed a significant height and reach advantage.
Hey Beige, i just wanted you to know that i love your content. Its 2nd to none when it comes to longer form content in my book. And not only that, you're a fantasfic artist? I mean being an amazing commentator alone is impressive but that with a fantastic artist? Wild.
4:10 - I don't think Jon knows what "dirty" means in this context. Dirty is putting your fingers in your opponents eye on purpose. What Cormier did was cheating.
rip rumble, but he was a cheat and the last fight against dc was nothing else but a disgrace where even his coaches walked out on him before he could make his speech.
I get the feeling Jones got away with a whole lot more juicing than he got caught for. I'd wager a lot of money he's been on PEDs his entire career, and just managed to usually stay one step ahead of the testing.
Jon Jones life is like if you lived life with a PS2 game shark disc. It’s fun until you realize you’re just having too much fun and it defeats the purpose
Jon Jones is the subject that keeps giving. You can do a part five now with everything from Vegas and the hall of fame night to his Heavyweight championship win. Crazy.
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Strength and Conditioning Coach here. Some things id like to add about Turinabol. Turinabol is NOT a weak steroid and is definitely better than drugs like D-ball referenced in this video. T-ball has an actuate effect on the nervous system, making explosive movements a lot easier and increasing total blood volume, which can increase one's cardio. The second effect being secondary to the primary function of the drug. It also has an incredibly short half-life, making it a fantastic drug if you want to run a compound in-between drug tests. Turinabol is NOT a cheap drug, it was not in a tainted supplement because it costs far more to produce than any over-the-counter supplement. He took it because it works and the likelihood of getting caught is low, not zero, but low.
Thanks for the added context. The short half life is something I read about while researching the video, but again, it's something I'm not that well versed in.
Any time, buddy. I love the videos, keep up the good work.@@BeigeFrequency
Thank you sir, for sharing your knowledge!!
@@BeigeFrequencyyeah, also you a Jones Dyck-Ridah
@@rpe11allthingsstrength Can you make some more comments about steroid cycles for MMA? It's an interesting topic that very few people are willing to talk openly about
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I’ve never seen such admiration for a cheater getting constantly caught.
It’s still something that just baffles and frustrates me to seemingly no end. It’s fucking dystopian. Never seen anything like it.
The good news is that time will not be kind to Jon Jones’ character and his precious, often self-referenced legacy. It’s already happening with videos like this and it’s only going to get worse and more common. The more a liar talks, the more opportunities it gives for people to catch them in their lies and dissolve doubt. The more time passes, the more people can do effective detective work - where people, from different walks and trades of life (even showcased in this very comment section!) slowly come together, educate each other in passing, gather and look at all the evidence and “slip-ups” up to this point, and paint an more accurate picture that we’re all feeling but just can’t prove yet. Videos like in this series are only going to get more accurate, more packed with info, and inspire and educate others to then pass it to other people. You can’t get away with things like you used to. The internet is too smart and too connected. It just takes time, focus, and the right people coming together at the right moments.
@@nibba5692someone disagreeing with you doesnt make them a redditor.
Ignorance is bliss, one + maybe give the benefit of doubt,Him having multiple! Positive test makes the excuses to hard to believe. The go to excuse of tainted supplements is also a red flag. Guys like Bisping have used tons of supplements over many years and never had 1 + test. A man’s character can tell you a lot about will or won’t do. A guy who will use cocaine a week before a fight , hides under a ring to avoid testing, hits a pregnant woman while driving drunk and high, doesn’t check on her but runs back to his vehicle to grab his stash then flee, plus other things he’s done . Does this sound like a guy who wouldn’t do steroids? Especially when there’s little chance of being caught? 🤣PLEASE. Where there’s smoke there’s 🔥 and that boi hotboxin . Usada is employed by the UFC , need I say more on why they changed their tune and now DON’T have to report violations.
With the drunk driving alone he's a scum bag
@@nibba5692you’re literally looking like the dude in idiocracy saying with his smooth brain “I like money”.
44:36 "A cheater is something that I'll never ever admit to" Interesting choice if words. I know if I genuinely didn't do something and was innocent, like murder. I definitely wouldn't say "I'd never admit to being a murderer". I'd say something like"I'll never BE a murderer" or "I'd never murder anybody". You can only "admit" to something you've actually done and harbor guilt over.
Everyone knows that he's a steroid user, even the trolls that say he isn't.
He's why I stopped listening to Joe rogan. Joe kept making excuses because he knows what Jon was doing.
@@SonglyWryt.Bon-Burr Joe’s MMA takes have become weaker over time. When I heard him constantly say Illia better be careful with Ryan Hall on his back while Topuria was literally picking Hall apart was when I stopped taking his analysis serious.
Jon misspoke in a similar way after the DC fight, he said "I beat DC when I was off of steroids". Who says "when I was off steroids" if they were never on them. I've never taken steroids, so I can't be off them, he's snitched on himself like this quite a few times but most his fans are too stupid to realize.
That line about DC forgetting the names of half the fighters he announced killed me 💀
Cormier being KOed with the head kick and crying afterwards in the cage is still the most heartbreaking moment in UFC hands down. That and Frankie being KOed in his final fight as well.
Especially heartbreaking in retrospect
He didn't get KO'd by a head kick
@@KombatKompanion-yd2cuCormier was rocked by a headkick, but finished with G&P. Pretty sure that was the other commenter's point.
Tony shaking his head after that final bomb from Gaethje is up there too
@@krb0123 That one haunts me, too.
Thank you for this series!
Revisiting all this stuff, I remembered how I used to find it odd that Jones never just embraced the bad guy role.
But the fact that he always tried to present himself as this stand up person, while being horrible outside the cage, and the best mma fighter of all time, makes him a more interesting character.
It's a real conundrum. Jon is undeniably a narcissist and I think part of that narcissism was truly believing that he was a good guy, who just made mistakes. But in recent years, he seems to have shifted to presenting himself as bad guy who is trying to overcome his faults.
@@BeigeFrequencyfeels like a Christian upbringing and conflicted heart
He’s kind of like a Walter White or Barry type character (or Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov for Crime and Punishment fans) - narcissistic & supremely focused on meeting their goals and fulfilling their ego, to the undeniable detriment of everyone around them, yet still believing in their own ultimate goodness in spite of the harm they continually inflict. They think because they feel bad about what they do that it makes them still redeemable. They have to cling to that belief for the sake of their own ego, otherwise they’ll lose the one thing that allows them to act with impunity. They know deep down that a bad guy doesn’t deserve to win - but they *need* to win. Therefore they can never accept that they’re the bad guy. Also let’s face it, it feels good to be the continual underdog even though you’re the best fighter in the game. People root for you in spite of your dominance because they want to see you turn your life around. It’s really a genius maneuver, even if it’s all subconscious on Jon’s part.
I think he wanted to be that person. He started being really honest after his last fight with DC
He's a sociopath, had to spend his whole life trying to LARP as a real human being. They rarely succeed, can't control their impulses.
At long last, the quadrillogy comes full circle, courtesy of the Beige one himself. I must have missed Jones saying Towelgate was one of the "dirtiest things ever seen in sports." Man oh man! Pot, meet kettle. I'm not done with the video yet, but this is shaping up to be one of your very best, Beige Frequency. Really compelling stuff.
That was an oblivious statement by jon
@@BeigeFrequency Self reflection is not one of his strengths, haha. Can't wait for parts 5-9+!
Jon Jones speaking about anyone else's bad behavior......is not a good idea.
I think it was a little tongue in cheek from Jon
Whenever people resort to the "why would I cheat/commit a crime in such a way that I got caught" argument, you know they are in a guilty spiral.
Either that, or they are innocent. Both is possible.
@@diggie9598If you think Jones is innocent, I've got a bridge to sell you.
@@astuteandy Did i say anything about Jones? Think again.
@@diggie9598 Your original comment literally insinuates that Jones could be innocent. Learn how to use English properly.
@@astuteandy I pointed out the logical fallacy in the original "whenever people" statement. The statement says nothing about Jones and i did not either. "Either that, or they are innocent. Both is possible" does not by any means "literally insinuate" anything about Jones in particular. I wrote "they" and it exactly is supposed to mean what it says. This is not so much about language skills but about critical thinking abilities. You can desperately try to be "right" or you can learn something. Up to you.
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Thank you so much 😀
I said this in another reply about why JJ never owned the bad guy character - but I’ll put it here too because it came to me after watching probably a dozen JJ breakdown videos:
Jon Jones is almost like a Walter White or Barry type character (or Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov for Crime and Punishment fans) - narcissistic & supremely focused on meeting their goals and fulfilling their ego, to the undeniable detriment of everyone around them, yet still believing in their own ultimate goodness in spite of the harm they continually inflict. They think because they feel bad about what they do that it makes them still redeemable. They have to cling to that belief for the sake of their own ego, otherwise they’ll lose the one thing that allows them to act with impunity. They know deep down that a bad guy doesn’t deserve to win - nevertheless they *need* to win. Therefore they can never accept that they’re the bad guy.
Also let’s face it, it feels good to be the continual underdog even though you’re the best fighter in the game. People root for you in spite of your dominance because they want to see you turn your life around. It’s really a genius maneuver, even if it’s all subconscious on Jon’s part.
nonono that is just a caricature people want to turn jones in to. your description is realistically how we could describe every professional fighter
Yeah, well, that's, just, like, you know, your opinion man
This is a perfect breakdown of how he operates in a nutshell.
Johnny “Soprano” Jones
I don't think Jon feels bad about it. He's probably a psychopath and the GOAT.
Even though I knew the story, the way you talked about DC and his age and him not getting closure made me feel the same sadness all over again. I really do not understand how people can still be Jon Jones fans and I hope by some miracle he will stand in front of Ngannou in the octagon and I hope he will get ktfo.
I await his downfall. It is inevitable. And I will be there to gloat. A guy like him will have a horrendous outcome, whether its drugs, out of the ring violence, running out of money. It will be something.
DC also had sus test results.
@@umarb7325DC is not a massive prick though who could have killed a pregnant woman and wasn't even self aware enough to pretend to be sorry years later on rogan talking about it. He was still just referring to that crash about how bad it was for him. He is cold.
@@ErinJeanetteSchrodinger's fetus, it's a child and Alive if the mother says so.
@@nibba5692 OK, that wasn't the point of what I said at all. Sounds like you just wanted to use a word you heard somewhere.
Another excellent video. I feel a little older seeing all this Jon Jones stuff after living through it and being a massive mma fan. Looking forward to part 5
Same. This kind of thing happens often for me these days. Haha. Seeing any kind of sports footage from 10 years ago or more makes me feel old. Lol especially when the footage even looks old and dated for whatever reason even though it’s not that old.
18:35 as a one time juice head, you only take estrogen blockers due to being on steroids.
We're still making excuses for a man who beat up his wife in front of their child.
MMA fans are a special breed.
Truly
All being led by a human egg that slaps his wife......
Who the hell is making excuses? All I see is him being shitted on.
@anti Infuriating isn't it mate
@@TheOrlandoTrustfull what's infuriating is you acting as if most ppl are on his side, and it's not true
Used this series to educate some of my new MMA fans on the UFC- Jon Jones story really touches on so many important eras in the sport
Gosh Beige.. you make some of the best docs on YT. Thank you 🙏🏻
Jon: I aint take no steroids, man!
*Later, Jon snitches on his steroid source*
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I swear you and Napoleon Blownapart should do a collab. It would be fire as fuck.
I made this comment also, would love to see that collaboration!!! Hyped for Napoleon’s new video
I’ve never clicked a video faster
This 100%
The drawing is REALLY good, you captured his darkness really well
Thanks for this! I’d love to see something similar about McGregor, these hero to villain stories are so interesting
Careful now, or your wife may end up in his DM’s.
Jones saying DC's towel-gate is the dirtiest thing in sports is like Hitler calling out the uni-bomber for his crimes.
"now your calling me the n bomb? real cool" Goated quote
I'm really enjoying your Jon Jones series, dude. Keep up the awesome work!
I have a 5hr drive to vegas coming up next month... totally gonna use these 4 videos to make the drive fly by
You should use Verne Troyer pics whenever using Rogan quotes from now on.
i listened to all these videos for like the 3rd time at work yesterday and then i see this W
Slick Vos reference ya slipped in there ;)
All I can tell you is this: Daniel Cormier worked his ass off for 214. He never had a camp that good again, not even when he won the HW title from Stipe. And I wasn't a big fan of D.C.'s because I thought he was a bit self-righteous. He wanted people to talk about the work he put in. But if you had _seen_ the way he worked, you'd have no choice but to say "ahh, he's going for it!"
For him to do all of that for nothing, which is what 'no contest' really means, I couldn't help but feel bad for the guy.
I believe that the ufc strong armed usada in to not making jon popping for turinabol as big of a deal as it should have been
They definitely seemed to pull out every stop to give him a pass
Can’t wait for pt5 w his controversial Reyes/santos wins, the Vegas HOF night incident, then his 3yr absence for “weight gain” & his return against gane where it seemed the entire mma world was so glad to have him back none of the other stuff mattered.
Hopefully it comes out soon 🤞🏼
Y'all JJ haters are genuinely pathetic
3:30 lmao even ariel’s voice crack knew it was garbage
Love the new content, but pumped for this.
Love the Jones Docs. Thank you!
The production on this Jones documentary was insane. Thanks Beige we appreciate.
Oh shit, hell fucking yes. Each of these has been so much more anticipated than the last.
Any news on the Genovaverse remaster?
It's somewhere on the docket
I've prayed for times like this, finally the jones docummentary continues
Truly the best of stuff
Also the fact that jon jones of all people calling cormier dirty is one of the funniest things ever
Well this has made my night. Thanks for the upload man!!
I'm glad Bone CK is able to brave the recession and fund these videos
The prodigal son has returned! Fuel for my workouts 🤘👏
Bro we have been waiting so long for this! Keep up with the great work!
Great work on the doc, your MMA lore knowledge is great. I’d be interested on a series on Dana white and his rise as a promoter.
Oh hell yes, been waiting for this one, Beige!
Good to have you back at it with the MMA videos, my friend…this ought to be good.
this series is the definitive doc on jon, so happy to see this in my feed
Look forward to these videos so much. Thanks for all the effort you put in to these, the rewatch value to your content is unmatched
I can’t tell you how happy I was when I saw you upload
I’m conflicted. The time you take gives us the excellent results of your detailed analysis and documentaries in parts of a series. On the other hand, it takes so long, I forget your RUclips name and find myself obsessively clicking RUclips search for any long video on Jon Jones hoping it’s your next part. I mean I’ve bought two homes in the time it’s taken, yet I’m in awe of your attention to detail on this. Your series will go down as the greatest analysis of Jon Jones from anyone.
Just subscribe
@@thagreatest10 Been subscribed smh lol
While not as interesting, I would love to see a video of Mighty Mouse. With some similarities to Jon's story, a guy who also grew up in very tough conditions, had a very similar run of dominance to Jon, but always showed to be a great guy and a role model and despite this was screwed out of the UFC, only to return better in ONE
It’s so wild that one - a family man whose legacy only grows more appreciated and admired with time, considered one of the all-time greats of the sport (even at the time), and is a true mixed martial artist and consummate professional - was disowned and shipped away by their organization, in his prime, for a fighter, who (and I love you, Ben) is past their prime, whose owner didn’t even *like* before and since…
While the other - who has done nothing but cause blemishes, PR headaches, and just be an overall pain in the ass, time and time again, for same-said organization - has been fought tooth-and-nail, end-over-backwards for to be kept around, promoted, and put the existence of entire fight cards on.
All for something as small and petty as “not bringing in enough PPV buys as we’d like”.
@@michaeltom637 you took the words right out of my mouth
Is there any way we could get Beige to consider using "lawl", instead of "el oh el" when reading posts?
The way you edit and narrate the fights is amazing
All the gloating and taunting of DC being an old man by JJ is so stupid to me, the man is considered old in the sport even back then when he first fought Bones. You really felt the need to take PED"s when you have so many advantages of him anyhow? DC is a true champion in every aspect of the word, faced incredible adversity and persevered to become Double Champ. He's a good man.
theres absolutely 0 chance you accidentally take tbol
it just does not happen
if only DC could come back and take on Jon at heavyweight to complete the trilogy
DC is too old and his body was breaking down even back during the Stipe fights.
I just watched part 1-3 today at work, good day
Supplements do not get tainted by steroids. What an absurd concept.
god damnit beige i start college again tomorrow and you have to go and drop this right now
Crimson Mist.
Well I know what I’m doing for the next 67 min.
Said it time and time again, Jones absolutely robbed DC of his legacy and GOAT status. DC would’ve walked through the LHW division and the HW division probably remaining undefeated throughout. He’ll always be my GOAT though I have no shame in admitting those Helwani and DC podcasts got me through the darkest times in Covid and I’ll always be thankful to him for that.
Yeah, it's really hard to think of a world where without Jones, DC wouldn't have dominated LHW and HW, maybe even simultaneously.
You are extremely good at painting portraits
Thank you!
its been 14 hours
Part 5 when?
These videos are always great, really informative
I opened the app to watch something specific but when beige uploads it takes precedence.
8:50
I always wondered what "sandblasting" prostitutes meant. Thanks, Beige.
Let’s be honest. If post-champion Jon Jones was a cop, is there any doubt he’d be the DIRTIEST, abusive, law breaking officer on whatever city’s police force he’s on???
For some reason that idea of him just makes perfect sense to me.
Jones as a cop is a terrifying thought.
This really is excellent stuff Beige. Thank you.
Well, im just glad Jon has seemingly finally learned his lesson, and this will be the last time Jon ever tests positive for a banned substance again.
Yep, I am confident that he will never test positive again, and especially not for the exact same substance the literal next time he fights.
it really fucks me up how good JJ actually is and he just cant get past himself
It sounds almost insane to think of Jon Jones as a "what if," but Imagine if he hadn't effectively wasted about 6 years of his career... nobody else would even be in the GOAT conversation. That's the great tragedy of Jon's story.
@@BeigeFrequency I think Cormier is an amazing wrestler, and being a former wrestler I root for him, but Jones outclasses him in so many ways. Totally wish we could see that "hypothetical ideal Jones" where he actually took responsibility the first time and didn't act like he believes he is the main character in everyone else's movie. Appreciate your breakdowns as always Beige
@@BeigeFrequency Right, but even that hypothetical question is now tainted because who can truly say that he wasn't juicing the entire time and it was a huge part of his unstoppable rise in the UFC? Jones was never not consumed by a narcissists' sense of invincibility or his many vices. I suppose it's fitting that hubris cost him the legacy all his talent and physicality was primed to achieve.
@ScudX no it didn't. He's the GOAT regardless
@@anti4330 no he is a deadbeat
Not many channels make me literally gasp when I see them post a new video
Will there be a part 5 ?
Yes, eventually.
Probably followed by a Part 6 after Jones inevitably Benoit's his family.
you & napoleon are my fav channels
Maybe 6 years from now you can do the downfall of Paddy.....
😂
You have to actually be at the top to have a "downfall"...
@@hasanz7585 well said
LETS GO!! finally after a year of wait. Great work as always.
Brooooo the Vern Troyer in place of Rogan had me wheezing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
so hype to watch. sick videos always brah
I’m a simple man. I see a Beige Frequency video. I smash that like button.
Your voice is pretty similar to the youtuber "toldinstone"
My favorite part is the near perfect private school level grammar in John's DMs to Tyson Griffin. True, intelligent, angry, sociopath. One of a kind.
Interesting facts. In gaming some of the most prolific AND most common cheaters aren't actually bad players. Its the good, to even amazing players that make the absolute best cheaters. Because when you're good at a game, and you understand it, its mechanics and systems, like its anti-cheats, you can find ways to get around being easily spotted. Further, a lot of really good players become entitled to good scores, or good times in speeding running for example. They feel records are OWED to them.
I think a case can be made about Jon Jones where a similar situation is true.
Can’t wait for the last episode! November can’t get here any faster for the Jones Stipe fight. And the retirement of Jon.
What i loved most about their feud was that they both actually listened to each other
Beige frequency Jon Jones video + dorktown video from secret base within an hour, this is heaven
29:30 I have to disagree, I think you could easily make the argument that Cormier is the better fighter given that he is a foot shorter and a foot less reach and Jon is juiced to the gills and he still performed pretty well against him, I mean they fought toe to toe for what 7 rounds total before Jones finished him? With like 12" height and reach advantage, younger, and on roids? Like, suuuuure that science project is a better fighter than DC..... Also, I feel that Cormier underperformed most of his career, he fought very pridefully, both against Jones and Stipe, it was entertaining to watch, and I think he liked showing he could stand up and go toe to toe with these larger strikers and it backfired. I mean dude is probably shorter than 5'11" and knocked Jones' mouthpiece out and had him going backwards. Steroids and all.
For sure. I looked it up recently and DC had a reach advantage over 1 person in his UFC career, Roy Nelson. Daniel is genuinely more like 5'8-9". The fact that he was able to hold his own on the feet against guys like Gus, Rumble, Stipe and Jones in spite of his massive reach disadvantage is one of the more impressive feats in MMA. He's probably the best hand fighter in the sport
@@BeigeFrequency Exactly! I actually was just speaking off the cuff, hyperbolically last night, I just looked it up this morning, he legitimately had a 1 foot reach disadvantage against jones, that is not even an exaggeration at all, that is a statement of fact lol ~8" reach disadvantage to Stipe as well, easily outsized his entire career, except against Poor Anderson Silva lol
Absolute delusion
@@thequinlanshow3326 Not really... Its quite objective actually. Given that he is at such a physical detriment to everyone he's fought, it literally proves that he excelled in skill and toughness, how else did he achieve the success he did? If we wasn't one of the most skilled fighters and toughest fighters of all time, how was he able to beat the fighters that he beat? I don't think there are many 5'9" guys that are KO'ing Stipe, or beating Rumble, Gus, Barnett, Mir, Derrick Lewis... He literally did it all on skill and toughness. Compared to Jones, I can think several fights where I'm confident Jones would have lost if he wasn't on Roids and enjoyed a significant height and reach advantage.
@@thequinlanshow3326 He wouldn't have beaten DC if he didn't have a 1 foot reach advantage
You underrated af W series
BONE CK is Back!
Hey Beige, i just wanted you to know that i love your content. Its 2nd to none when it comes to longer form content in my book.
And not only that, you're a fantasfic artist? I mean being an amazing commentator alone is impressive but that with a fantastic artist? Wild.
4:10 - I don't think Jon knows what "dirty" means in this context. Dirty is putting your fingers in your opponents eye on purpose. What Cormier did was cheating.
Best Part of those series yet.
Turinabol is awesome!
rip rumble, but he was a cheat and the last fight against dc was nothing else but a disgrace where even his coaches walked out on him before he could make his speech.
Unlike Jon I'm not a narc, great stuff, these vids are awesome thanks dude.
Seeing this upload made me so happy. Great work as always, Beige.
I get the feeling Jones got away with a whole lot more juicing than he got caught for.
I'd wager a lot of money he's been on PEDs his entire career, and just managed to usually stay one step ahead of the testing.
Jon Jones gonna have a Chris Benoit moment
Jon Jones life is like if you lived life with a PS2 game shark disc. It’s fun until you realize you’re just having too much fun and it defeats the purpose
this is a really perplexing comparison lmao
Jon Jones is the subject that keeps giving. You can do a part five now with everything from Vegas and the hall of fame night to his Heavyweight championship win. Crazy.
Never go full Mike Perry.
Love the sarcasm on this channel.