Could not agree more that the micro CC, or what id just call aoe micro annoyances, are completely out of control right now. Its like somebody is just flicking me in the nose the entire time that i play this game. Some silly little thing is passively annoying me for .5 to 2 seconds almost constantly. That being said. spriest feels pretty good, especially in BGs where you get to do your thing and just level entire team fights with a proper setup
@@Mike-vs1gf we've reached the point in the games life where many spells should not even be interruptible with kicks. Every class needs between 1 and 3 caster stops for m+ and their abundance has been steadily degrading pvp.
A movement while channeling would be amazing love that. The issue now that everything is baked into psychic link so if they overbuff single target it also buffs the aoe massively too
Our issue is mobility, if only there was a significant speed increase when we cast voidform. I think that shouod be something to look into as well as add vampiric embrace.
always love your videos and clear thoughts! question if you dont mind: me and my buddy are playing spriest+fury this season (regardless of meta) - could you please explain why this is often a meta combo? what are the synergies? ty if you reply
I was testing a burst build with Ancient Madness and Mastermind, those Insanity Mind Flays are critting so much, less AoE dmg but insane kill windows. Not sure what you think of running a burst build like that for this expansion
I recently realized that my SWD backlash damage did more damage to me than it does to my target, even if they were below 20%... anyway, I really enjoy Archon Shadow.
from the parts you can hear. it's actually summed up nicely. 1. stand in the back and hard cast everything. 2. mind blast and death do nothing. 3. try to have fun haha
Nice vid as always Stahp, tbh, I’m having a blast of fun with Voidweaver… I’m always doing more dmg then the Archons. I do feel that Archon does more dmg, but every one shut you off so much and feels impossible to cast Halo+VE+Flays… while with Voidweaver, in addition to having a 20% stronger DoTs, being able to cast the Void Torrent while hiding behind a pillar and seeing the rift melting everyone every 30 sec, feels sooo good haha. GGs man !
honestly switching to void elf, it's off meta, dope mog, and has a killer passive, especially with the amount of casting we do. i would also love to see vt hitting for 100k/tick bc it's such a core of our class it should be meaningful. it doesn't have to be like afflock or empowered garrotes BUT reward us plssss
I have had alot of success as void elf, the teleport, and no kickback have been amazing since we have low haste And are the only caster that casts , what are your thoughts on void elf, and possibly dragon when it releases , the 2 micro ccs and the double glide seem to broken for us to not take, it helps with our 2 weaknesses, mobility and getting dicked raw by every melee who turn into monkeys when they see us
I dont know if use the invoc of yog saron is very usefull ? You cast him like 1 or 2 times in all game. Whats do you think about more dot with the eyes ?
games are really long now, unless someone makes huge mistakes they last until healer is oom usually 2-3 yogg per game yogg did not scale with the new health pools i'm playing without it to do more sustained
I think a good idea would be to make the dragonflight season 3 tier set for shadow word death a talent honestly where shadow word death hits multiple times and make it a connection to tithe evasion.
Yeah I actually didn’t do this in the video, good idea. I kind of just use the damage off cd since mostly we’re trying to oom a healer. With a rogue you could prob have a nice setup with triple cc and burst like the good ol’ days
Yeah, stacking the 4, with Voidform running and PI and their cast time is super short and they hit crazy hard with Voidform making them deal the same damage as if the target had full mastery bonus
Hi Stahp, As recent convert to the shadow life I have been loving your content. Shadow feels amazing but having come from playing Melee for 15 years I am really struggling with how to stay alive. I have been looking for some tips and tricks for how to deal with getting trained by multiple melee and not dropping like a sack of potatoes when the warrior decides that my face looks like a sharpening stone for his axe. Loving the content so far
Make sure you are using flash heal for that 10% damage reduction buff on big goes, also i think fade still reduces damage? Dispersion is a short cd so it's not bad to use it early as well. I will make a video covering this topic soon once solo shuffle is out
@@StahpSP no kidding. Our damage is pathetic. Even the DoTs don't hit hard enough. I had a warrior execute me from 20% to 0 one bg and I couldn't help but laugh the next time I cast death.
@@leetackett7879 power infusion, stun, silence, and fear are enough to rate it highly in arena even if their damage is poor. They are a force multiplier for the actual dps on the team.
heard that lock is really good from a r1 warlock friend but he didn't do well those games anyways Priest is the only class with no mobility SP needs the most instants yet are the only class without even a single one SW:D is useless except to break cc, i specced out of everything involving it, because it is literally not worth wasting my healers mana nor the damage it does to me if being focused it needs to do minimum 500k noncrit Mindblast is a waste of gcd except for insanity gen and yogg stacks ...and yogg did not scale; it took forever but was at least scary in DF, like a demo lock popping tyrant and every cd, as it should be, given that it's basically like a 5 minute cd at minimum mind devourer must become 1 point and switched with ancient madness ancient madness is garbage; should last the duration of void eruption and not diminish MD needs to stack Zero repercussion for dispelling our dots and if we shadow crash immediately they're immediately dispelled Not even the cast time of everything is reduced SP is unplayable without precog and if you don't become a juke God, you can't do anything SP is good only if you're a good player with the new changes, at least beginner sps can pump damage but are completely cooked if anything focuses them shadowcrash talents 1 point mindflay needs something like a 1.5/2 second MAX cast and it's damage increased by 100-200% it must be changed to shadowfrost, it makes no sense it's only shadow while this mindspike trash which doesn't even slow is shadowfrost remove mindspike trash, dead talents and trying to make two playstyles work ascension and eruption instant cast this might be a bit much but i'd like to see ascension removed and eruption reducced to a 1m cd and not require a target to cast blessing of the bronze must reduce the cd of our actual mobility, like every other class, which for sp would be fade, not fucking grip but better than angelic feather at least, which i've never run out of charges on mass dispell, for shadow only, 50% haste buff and no mana cost it's a 2m cd and sometimes i can't even use it bc the cast time and i'm oom from needing to flash heal for the wall 70% entropic rift needs to be baseline, it does not compete in any content to movable torrent instant mindgames for shadow only; it's a 45s cd, does no damage, and can be dispelled we need SOME sort of dispell protection like affl, especially as if we cast DP multiple times, we lose 150-200 insanity if dispelled i haven't an idea what that'd look like; maybe every 2 dispells grants unfurling darkness, which should now stack and a charge of mind devourer each DP stack dispelled grants mind devourer or like 20-30 insanity gen for each dispell of VT voidblast is incredibly cool aesthetically but is useless beyond the insanity generation they should be hitting noncrit for at minimum the same as mindflay insanity, although more because we only get 2-3 max and 0-1 if we're being focused idk, i'm one of the top sps in NA, but not as good as you, and you should make a public post detailing changes to be made, this is just my verbose 2 cents after drinking too much coffee lol
God damn bro two cents and some 😆 that lock is def good I selectively chose only the games I won 😂. I’d be down to make a forum post too. I don’t want sp to be crazy over powered I just want it to be fun to play :/
Not necessarily because being cloned is annoying as hell, they would be stunned / cloned all game of feral was free. That being said this was an arena skirm 😂
@StahpSP I swear it's the other dps low mmr dps just do random shit, it's like fighting 3 deadpools every game it's like impossible go predict or even think what their next move will be
"If you're new to the war within shadow priest..." Stahp one week before the first war within season has even started. Mind flay while moving honestly sounds like a great QOL change for SP btw. Would be especially dope if it worked like shaman lasso, hunter rapid fire, and disc penance. Doesn't seem that crazy imo.
Lol ya some people have been playing the beta for over a month tho… and people may watch this video a month from now. Looking forward to figuring the rest out
Portions of video muted to copyright.. sry :( will upload a new vid soon!
I thought my phone is going bad 😌
You able to make a build video on your setup?
@@jameskuhlman8198 yeee
Good to see you still putting out content bro
Might be ancient but I’m still active 👊
Could not agree more that the micro CC, or what id just call aoe micro annoyances, are completely out of control right now. Its like somebody is just flicking me in the nose the entire time that i play this game. Some silly little thing is passively annoying me for .5 to 2 seconds almost constantly.
That being said. spriest feels pretty good, especially in BGs where you get to do your thing and just level entire team fights with a proper setup
like a goddamn mosquito orgy at a picnic fr
@@Mike-vs1gf we've reached the point in the games life where many spells should not even be interruptible with kicks. Every class needs between 1 and 3 caster stops for m+ and their abundance has been steadily degrading pvp.
@@mistakai4226 Well if we're going to start a list of spells immune to interrupt, lets start with VT lol
the game is so cooked, lol. however, there is still nothing like it :(
A movement while channeling would be amazing love that. The issue now that everything is baked into psychic link so if they overbuff single target it also buffs the aoe massively too
It doesn't matter, you cast you lose.
As long as mages eles and whatever don't need to cast shit they will be a better "caster"
Our issue is mobility, if only there was a significant speed increase when we cast voidform. I think that shouod be something to look into as well as add vampiric embrace.
always love your videos and clear thoughts! question if you dont mind:
me and my buddy are playing spriest+fury this season (regardless of meta) - could you please explain why this is often a meta combo? what are the synergies? ty if you reply
I was testing a burst build with Ancient Madness and Mastermind, those Insanity Mind Flays are critting so much, less AoE dmg but insane kill windows. Not sure what you think of running a burst build like that for this expansion
You can get precog by buying a ring/neck with a socket and then just buying the precog gem. Was beyond a lifesaver when I got it.
Clutch
I recently realized that my SWD backlash damage did more damage to me than it does to my target, even if they were below 20%... anyway, I really enjoy Archon Shadow.
Been that way all of DF
from the parts you can hear. it's actually summed up nicely. 1. stand in the back and hard cast everything. 2. mind blast and death do nothing. 3. try to have fun haha
whats that addon showing the cds coming back on, bro ?
Doomcdpulse
can u do a video on positioning, addons/weakauras, and your thought process in arena?
Duck yeah I can
Hi, whats two dps classes that might be able to work with SP in 2v2 dbl dps arena? Ty
feral or rogue
@@StahpSP tyty
Nice vid as always Stahp, tbh, I’m having a blast of fun with Voidweaver… I’m always doing more dmg then the Archons. I do feel that Archon does more dmg, but every one shut you off so much and feels impossible to cast Halo+VE+Flays… while with Voidweaver, in addition to having a 20% stronger DoTs, being able to cast the Void Torrent while hiding behind a pillar and seeing the rift melting everyone every 30 sec, feels sooo good haha. GGs man !
ya had some good VW games last night
Whats a good addon for target and name plates? I cant see anything in pvp
i use default nameplates but modded with bigdebuffs and sarena for arena frames
Liked and subbed. Please tell me how you have noggenfogger in Arena? Modelchanger? If so, which one. The one I use is always out of date…
Imorph
honestly switching to void elf, it's off meta, dope mog, and has a killer passive, especially with the amount of casting we do. i would also love to see vt hitting for 100k/tick bc it's such a core of our class it should be meaningful. it doesn't have to be like afflock or empowered garrotes BUT reward us plssss
lol? VE is meta.
@@ब्रह्मन-ष1स i haven't fought any void elf sps, they're always nelfs, even some goblins. 🤣
@@ब्रह्मन-ष1स& ironic cuz even stahp is a nelf and if it was so meta then it'd be in awc 🤣
bro best name of all time
I have had alot of success as void elf, the teleport, and no kickback have been amazing since we have low haste And are the only caster that casts , what are your thoughts on void elf, and possibly dragon when it releases , the 2 micro ccs and the double glide seem to broken for us to not take, it helps with our 2 weaknesses, mobility and getting dicked raw by every melee who turn into monkeys when they see us
No blowback, just the 3 minute kick and jump glide. Which is still awesome. Glide I think is better than void elf
@vxgirxv yes they just updated the racials but still the no blowback on spells and the tp may edge it out now
yooo nice vid! im curious how you go about targeting your teammates?
All targeting binds are on my mouse and I have stuff like grip / pi/ swap macros so I don’t have to change targets
I'm playing feral right now but mind flay while moving would get me back on SP. I doubt that will ever happen though :(
I dont know if use the invoc of yog saron is very usefull ?
You cast him like 1 or 2 times in all game. Whats do you think about more dot with the eyes ?
games are really long now, unless someone makes huge mistakes they last until healer is oom
usually 2-3 yogg per game
yogg did not scale with the new health pools
i'm playing without it to do more sustained
Agreed most games with good healers are damp. NZoth breaks a lot of cc depending on your comp for limited pad
good video~And If I just want to get 1800 in 2v2, Do you think Sp/Sub good??
prob the best comp u can play as double dps in 2s but typically healer dps is better
Waaaait, how do you play shuffle, isn’t it unavailable yet?
Its wargames
Would you say voidweaver is significantly worse? I enjoy it more, but I know the archon damage is just a bit better.
Na it ls not that bad, I was still topping damage as voidweaver
stupid question but how are you in skeleton form in arenas?
@@zig5411 tmorph
Imorph
I think a good idea would be to make the dragonflight season 3 tier set for shadow word death a talent honestly where shadow word death hits multiple times and make it a connection to tithe evasion.
Mind flay insanity is crazy. Save up 4 of them bad boys and give a mfer that pearl necklace. SHOOTIN ROPES lmaoooooooo
Yeah I actually didn’t do this in the video, good idea. I kind of just use the damage off cd since mostly we’re trying to oom a healer. With a rogue you could prob have a nice setup with triple cc and burst like the good ol’ days
Yeah, stacking the 4, with Voidform running and PI and their cast time is super short and they hit crazy hard with Voidform making them deal the same damage as if the target had full mastery bonus
Hi Stahp, As recent convert to the shadow life I have been loving your content. Shadow feels amazing but having come from playing Melee for 15 years I am really struggling with how to stay alive. I have been looking for some tips and tricks for how to deal with getting trained by multiple melee and not dropping like a sack of potatoes when the warrior decides that my face looks like a sharpening stone for his axe.
Loving the content so far
Make sure you are using flash heal for that 10% damage reduction buff on big goes, also i think fade still reduces damage? Dispersion is a short cd so it's not bad to use it early as well. I will make a video covering this topic soon once solo shuffle is out
Yeah in 2s facing double melee and I can't play... @@StahpSP
It’s the same with hunters execute, unless you’re spec-ed in specific stuff and you get a proc you do 250k 😢😅
I said it on the last video and I'll say it again. Mind blast and death should both do about a million damage to these health pools.
id even take 500k xD
@@StahpSP no kidding. Our damage is pathetic. Even the DoTs don't hit hard enough. I had a warrior execute me from 20% to 0 one bg and I couldn't help but laugh the next time I cast death.
they shud be doing 500k yes. same as fire mage 300k pyro crits lol
why do so many r1 rate spriest as god tier in pvp
@@leetackett7879 power infusion, stun, silence, and fear are enough to rate it highly in arena even if their damage is poor. They are a force multiplier for the actual dps on the team.
Link u talants?)
it's in the description, not the pvp talents tho which I'd like to know too
Catharsis fade trauma
@@StahpSP Thx! Didnt expect catar to be worth it :o
Curious to try where it lands on the meter
Legit almost not worth hitting SWD anymore except to gain insanity at full hp. I miss season 3 tier set from dragonflight.
Those machine gun deaths were fun. Huge risk reward.
After getting clapped by a Aff lock in wpvp, I really wished my dots did half the dmg theirs does.
shadow priest.. the last true caster in the game.. no instant bullshi....
heard that lock is really good from a r1 warlock friend but he didn't do well those games
anyways
Priest is the only class with no mobility
SP needs the most instants yet are the only class without even a single one
SW:D is useless except to break cc, i specced out of everything involving it, because
it is literally not worth wasting my healers mana nor the damage it does to me if being focused
it needs to do minimum 500k noncrit
Mindblast is a waste of gcd except for insanity gen and yogg stacks
...and yogg did not scale; it took forever but was at least scary in DF,
like a demo lock popping tyrant and every cd, as it should be, given that it's basically like a 5 minute cd
at minimum mind devourer must become 1 point and switched with ancient madness
ancient madness is garbage; should last the duration of void eruption and not diminish
MD needs to stack
Zero repercussion for dispelling our dots and if we shadow crash immediately they're immediately dispelled
Not even the cast time of everything is reduced
SP is unplayable without precog and if you don't become a juke God, you can't do anything
SP is good only if you're a good player
with the new changes, at least beginner sps can pump damage but are completely cooked if anything focuses them
shadowcrash talents 1 point
mindflay needs something like a 1.5/2 second MAX cast and it's damage increased by 100-200%
it must be changed to shadowfrost, it makes no sense it's only shadow
while this mindspike trash which doesn't even slow is shadowfrost
remove mindspike trash, dead talents and trying to make two playstyles work
ascension and eruption instant cast
this might be a bit much but i'd like to see ascension removed and eruption reducced to a 1m cd and not require a target to cast
blessing of the bronze must reduce the cd of our actual mobility, like every other class, which for sp would be fade, not fucking grip
but better than angelic feather at least, which i've never run out of charges on
mass dispell, for shadow only, 50% haste buff and no mana cost
it's a 2m cd and sometimes i can't even use it bc the cast time and
i'm oom from needing to flash heal for the wall
70% entropic rift needs to be baseline, it does not compete in any content to movable torrent
instant mindgames for shadow only; it's a 45s cd, does no damage, and can be dispelled
we need SOME sort of dispell protection like affl, especially as if we cast DP multiple times,
we lose 150-200 insanity if dispelled
i haven't an idea what that'd look like; maybe every 2 dispells grants unfurling darkness, which should now stack
and a charge of mind devourer
each DP stack dispelled grants mind devourer
or like 20-30 insanity gen for each dispell of VT
voidblast is incredibly cool aesthetically but is useless beyond the insanity generation
they should be hitting noncrit for at minimum the same as mindflay insanity, although more because we only get 2-3 max and 0-1 if we're being focused
idk, i'm one of the top sps in NA, but not as good as you, and you should make a public post detailing changes to be made, this is just my verbose 2 cents after drinking too much coffee lol
God damn bro two cents and some 😆 that lock is def good I selectively chose only the games I won 😂. I’d be down to make a forum post too. I don’t want sp to be crazy over powered I just want it to be fun to play :/
Ive been having way more success with VW then archon with all ghe melee around. VW cleave on melee and the void leech talent just feel so good
really wish they would make SW death hit HARD
same bro it would make me HARD
i have this issue where they just tunnel me lol
yep as the least mobile spec in the entire game this will definitely hapepn
sp is really fun rn I know void isnt that good but its so fun and my favorite
same
Bought a 580 ring with a socket in it to put in precog for 5k, lost about 120k hp but it's worth it
Nice good idea - but where do you get precog itself? Also the AH?
first game vs is so irrevelant to give you a general picture, all double melee will train you especially when you are with a feral
Not necessarily because being cloned is annoying as hell, they would be stunned / cloned all game of feral was free. That being said this was an arena skirm 😂
@@StahpSP not false! dont u think insidious ire is worth it?
the 70% slow entropic feels pretty good
should be baseline
Im getting more wins the higher i am now, just hit 1955 and 6-0d the lobby easily, it felt like 1500 was harder then 2k
Having better healers on your team definitely increases your chances of winning 😂
@StahpSP I swear it's the other dps low mmr dps just do random shit, it's like fighting 3 deadpools every game it's like impossible go predict or even think what their next move will be
"If you're new to the war within shadow priest..."
Stahp one week before the first war within season has even started.
Mind flay while moving honestly sounds like a great QOL change for SP btw. Would be especially dope if it worked like shaman lasso, hunter rapid fire, and disc penance. Doesn't seem that crazy imo.
Lol ya some people have been playing the beta for over a month tho… and people may watch this video a month from now. Looking forward to figuring the rest out
@@StahpSP Hahaha I was just teasing! Those are totally fair reasons, though. Keep doing what you're doing, Stahp. Love the content!
How can it be good in shuffle if you have to cast everything.. lol
Good cc and survivability - we just mesh well with every class with the cc combo we can do in damp
More cata 3v3 pls
Bro I’m itching to play it’s kinda dead rn 😢 hopefully soon. What class do you want to see?
@@StahpSP Spriest ofc man 👊🏻 would nut to see some shatterplayz
My boomy is pretty dead in arena, need to up my sp for some shadowplay
I dont know why but i cant like the video, weird
i hate shadow priests
first :D
goated