Panavision XL 35mm Learning How to load the hard way
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2020
- At Cinegear 2019, I got the opportunity to "figure out" how to load a Panavision XL, having never loaded one before. This was one of the biggest fails ever, but sometimes diving into something ya don't know and figuring it out as you go along, is where the fun lies.
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Those cameras are such a beautiful piece of engineering wow
They really are.
This is why on the film set, the Loader is one person's entire job.
Totally! Those cameras are not easy! It’s why I use arri or aaton! :)
@@CinemaRepository Them millenium Xl scares me
@@JoeJoe-nb3lt It’s a nightmare lol
This is lacing the camera which is the 1at AC's job. Loader doesn't do this, they load the film into the mag.
fired if he was on a set...
I already fired myself lol 😆
@@CinemaRepository i hope you understand my comment as 1/2 1/2 => will say truth with some twinkle, so the way your response looks I am confidebt that you understood my message 😉
@@drlo728 Fantastic piece of clockwork but all this was doomed in the digital age.
Ye and i suppose canvas is doomed in the Photoshop age? Idiotic comment.
@@iosefkrzinski4714 Wes Anderson's newest film just came out. Guess what it was shot on?
(Hint: Not digital)
Way back in 2000, you'd often hear people loudly declaring the same line: "Film will be dead in the next five years!". Then every year after that, it was the same thing, about how film will be quite extinct in X amount of years. Here we are two decades later.
Guess it just doesn't feel like dying. Yet.
Great video! Of course this is loading practice. I'm sure that it will go much smoother once you get the hang of it. One cannot know the exact steps just by looking at the mechanism. I'm also pretty sure you were afraid of pulling out too much film, unable to push it back into the mag. These are beautiful pieces of precision engineering. Thanks for sharing!
Yea it was just a fun experiment as I had never loaded one of these before.
I am assuming that the film reel can't be opened in real world operation, and probably the part used to engage on camera is aways compromised, right? Cause the light can damage the negative.
Correct
Why hollywood stop using panavision after early 2000s?
Well digital is cheaper. Panavision is a rental house and they are very busy.
Nope. Almighty Bruce 2003 filmed Panavision 35mm
About 2012 is when the number of movies shot on digital eclipsed the number of movies show on film. However, a few dozen movies are still shot on film every year. It's more of a preference or artistic decision made by the producer or director.
Looks like something out of the 1950s! Do people still use this gear?
Yep they sure do
Aun la usan, hay peliculas que se gravan en analogico y son de mejor calidad
If this sarcasm, then you Sir, have nailed it.
@@shubhampednekar4361 Just asked a question, sorry if it offends
Alot of Hollywood productions still use film. Oppenheimer being the most recent example.
Its crazy 😢
I used to load these for a living, and this isn’t loading, this is threading the camera. The loading takes place inside the magazine. I feel sorry for that camera. Rough man. Hope you counted the perfs on the mag loop to check it’s the right size and next time take it really really slow and then figure how to speed it up. These are really expensive and should not be treated like this. It’s a privilege you earn to thread a camera, so respect it.
These mags don’t have a loop inside them. The panavision mags have no sprocket drive. This was done slowly for the video camera. I also had never loaded an XL before, they’re far more cramped than the BNC and Panaflex Golds I’ve loaded in the past. Also, they wouldn’t give me any tips/advice. FYI, I service motion picture cameras for a living so this isn’t my first rodeo. I just do Arri and Aaton, not Panavision. It’s a whole completely different set of skills. It was fun to learn by doing.
Totally, still good to pull the loop size out of the mag to the marker point but then still count the perfs to check loop size. I think by not trying to do it fast, you actually end up doing it faster
try loading a Konvas :) its crude soviet engineering...
Yea no kidding haha 😂
Probably scratches film too! haha
@@CinemaRepository That's pretty much a guaranteed LOL! Kinor 16 is easy tho, Konvas a total nightmare.
Or an Eclair. Worst cameras of all time. Maybe not in their prime, but they have been money-pits for quite a while.
Arriflex cameras are easier to load.
Yes!
hard to watch
Film, these were the methods used back then for film making, nowadays they use high end digital camcorders, which can cost between £8,000-25,000 depends on your budget and what features your after even a 4K camcorder can cost upto £12,000, for 8K its higher than £16,000 so film making is very expensive and not everyone is wanting a very expensive filming equipment.
Yep this channel is all about shooting on film tho. We have no interest in discussing digital cameras, we let other people do that. Remember on average there are 40-60 internationally distributed features shot on motion picture film released every year. Film is not gone or dead at all. Just because there are alternatives, doesn’t mean the knowledge of film needs to disappear.
@@CinemaRepository What do you make of Terminator Dark Fate, Tom and Jerry, Rugrats all these films turned out crap and rubbish. The 2 being cartoons in 3D which spoils the plot.
@@CinemaRepository could you please give us a demo of loading an Ultra PANAVISION 70?
@@jaydipbiswas4387 One day hopefully. It's not dissimilar actually, there is more space to move around in because the body is longer. There is also a pattern on the door, so you can't really muck it up. Over-all I'd say the 70mm camera is a bit easier to load than the XL which is super cramped.
You have some really high standards for camcorders! LOL!
real filmmakers use film,digital is for loosers.
Can't wait to give my non existing money to a company that only rent cameras and an other that sell it's dead material in a super expensive price ,film is dead and the last generation killed it with not letting anyone using it except the elite , now nobody wants to use it , sadly to be honest ,35 is incredible,and the 70 is just.... majestic, but digital companies like arri aren't as greedy as these rich basterds.... and yeah I almost forgot fuck you boomer and I wish yall happy with your toys because no ones going for them anyway now the digital is more accessible, and roger deakins exist... yeah things are very good with the new generation, your just jealous that a phone have better quality than your expensive 8mm ,and you can even buy a better camera with the same resolution as 35 for half the price of a film 16mm ....
@@o.l4890 I agree about what you said, that also what I feel about most business and even art nowadays unfortunately,I wish you all the best
@@o.l4890 With a little digital grading post work, your average android and I phone cameras can capture a pretty clean image and just touch it up with a little shutter effect, 24 fps and a pinch of grain and you will equal the quality of professional imagery.
Lighting and blocking are a different story, however, but can be learned on the go over time.
@@iosefkrzinski4714 I'am afraid unless you have the latest high end phone or an expensive old one you cant have a clean image quality because of the terrible colors and texture from the small sensor that gives up on faces and shadows ,its good for pictures but not video ,its just a green/violet pixel mess even setting it at native ISO and 50th shutter speed ,yet a decent camera can provide good videos with clean images and quality , you still need some money to go to a normal image to help tell the story without distractions ,but now even a micro four third camera can give an excellent image ,and apsc and FF is another story
@@o.l4890 Then again, you did say "high end" phones.