'Starmer is a complete charlatan!': Should Labour have accepted Natalie Elphicke? | LBC
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- Nick Ferrari speaks to Jo Tanner and hears from caller Shaun to gather their views on ex-Tory MP Natalie Elphicke deflecting to Labour.
Nick Ferrari marvels at the fact that the day before ex-Tory MP Natalie Elphicke's defection to Labour, she sent out leaflets accusing the party of 'taking Britain back to square one'.
Sir Keir Starmer's decision to welcome former Tory MP Natalie Elphicke into the Labour Party has provoked a strong backlash among his own MPs.
0:20: After this move by Labour, Nick Ferrari wonders whether Keir Starmer is 'an opportunist', and whether this can be seen as 'a Labour own goal'.
2:40 - Political comms strategist and former adviser to Boris Johnson, Jo Tanner, says: "If I was Rishi Sunak I'd be waking up today thinking, 'yeah, you might have done me a favour somehow'".
1:06: Caller Shaun says: ‘If Chris Matheson told Keir Starmer that Elvis Presley was alive and well in Tavistock, he’d say he’s alive and well in Tavistock if the swing voters wanted to hear it…the guy’s a complete charlatan..'
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First off, those defecting are only doing so because they know Tories are going lose. Secondly, Labour should say 'NO'.
Immprincible..
Think of the headlines if Starmer says no… party of power, not party of principle… we tried it that way twice, it didn’t work
yes and no, just look at how much damage is being done to the tories by these defections, Starmer has proved that he will remove the whip from anyone not toeing the party line, I think this is where Elphike will end up, she wont keep her seat long.
First caller thinks Starmer is hard left?! Is he mad?!
Yes, yes i thibk the overton window shift has caused some folk to voice what they think are a bit 'on the edge' comments
But when the facts are viewed objectively...
Startmer is as close to being 'hard left'
as tony blair was to pushing a neil kinock style agenda
"Social justice warrior" became a pejorative some time ago, and I knew then that society had taken a turn for the worst...
Probably a dailymail reader
right-wingers seeing ANYONE who claim to be left as HARD left because they hear that word and assume their policies rather than look at them
@@Matt_Mosley1983
The same is true for left wingers who think anyone on the right is far right.
This is why these terms are meaningless.
Ferrari is becoming more and more ridiculous. Time to go Nick.
It just proves that Labour and the Tories are indistinguishable from each other and both parties are therefore interchangeable, so if the Tories are ousted, you’ll notice no change.
Spot on. Clement Atlee and Aneurin Bevan will be spinning
Exactly.
She isn't running for her seat
@@megaham1552 exactly
It doesn't prove anything of the sort it was a show of no confidence in sunak .....
“hard-Left” 😂😂😂
Yeah, that's hilarious 😂
That clown who rang up lost me at Corbyn fRiEnD oF hAmAs and calling Sir Keith Starmer 'left wing' Sir Keith is about as left wing as Farage.
Some people!!
Well corbyn did say his friends hamas…
@@jamespaul6315
I really can't be bothered if that's the best you can do.
@@fatherjack1148 are you claiming he didnt say that? I literally can show you video of it if you want
This caller is completely unhinged!!
First caller is voting Reform 100%
He’s mad someone used opinion-polls to determine their policy. 😂😂
What gave it a way talking to tice lol.
It seems like it just puts off both right and left. For what it is worth Starmer is not hard left.
They are broad church like the Tories. And Starmer has taken the Party to the centre just as millions of angry centre right Tories are looking for a home.
@@johnrussell3961blue labour don’t worry money to help the wealthy while the average joe need to tighten his belt
@@chrisspencer6502 . Better a centrists Labour Party in power, than a far left labour party in opposition.. That far left are happy to lose and allow the Tories to heap untold misery on these they claim to care for.
@johnrussell3961 Only it feels like more of the same. At least in 1997 Labour actually followed through on some meaningful changes. We haven't even got Blairite Labour in Starmer.
You'd be hard pressed to say Starmer is left wing
Shaun from Tavistock = Colin from Portsmouth
The own goal, always was, choosing Starmer...
Do they, have commas in, Moscow?
The Labour party are no longer 'like' the Tories. They literally ARE the Tories.
*Tories suffer embarrassing defection and scathing departure letter highlighting Sunak incompetence
Ferrari - “How can I turn this into an attack on Labour?”
true gammon
So you haven't seen the majority of left wing people on social media criticise this move?
Sure, Nick is biased, but starmer attacked himself with this move
@@molsy1768 Hard left being angry on Social Media is par for the course
@MurphyOCP-001 it's not neccesarily just far left people moaning about this.
Starmer - who has already received tons of criticism for being tory lite - has brought into the party someone that wouldn't have gotten in under Blair for christ sakes
@@molsy1768 Most of the people critical of Starmer are the far left who are angry about everything that isn’t their ideal form of socialism. This MP is not standing at the next election so it’s a moot point. Again, the left being angry about everything on social media is par for the course.
The Labour Party without Jeremy Corbyn is like Christianity without Jesus.....that seems to be even clearer now!!!
put that on a t-shirt ✊
well corbyn was not that popular remember he the only labour leader to loss 2 elections.
@@Matt_Mosley1983 I sent a further response Matt did you receive it? I appear to be getting censored Lol!!!
Corbyn was a clown.
@@MrKidOcelot same i pointed out corbyn is the only labour leader to loss 2 election, that seem to be gone now lol
I can't stand people using hard left or hard right when they have zero idea what that actually means.
(far left) Communism > Socialism > Liberalism > conservatism > fascism (far right)
Keir and his party are towards the right of liberalism, it's an insult to communists and socialists to say he's anywhere near the left.
Well hold on, socialism would be on the hard left because it's a prerequisite stage of communism.
I believe the term social democrat would fit more aptly in your example list
@@molsy1768. Even China has given up on communism. If you want to be wealthy you can’t condemn the wealth creators. The Far left are stuck in the past.
@@molsy1768 Socialism leads to communism. It can be called communisms stepping stone. But communism is further left because it is more radical then socialism. A communist country has never existed on our planet. It is a stateless, moneyless system. So maybe you could call hunter gather tribes communist but I hardly think they count.
Social democrat is a centre political view within the UK, it sits on the left of liberalism but not so far left as to become socialist.
@@TheTwinn well that was my point...
Socialism is the pursuit of people on the far left, and social Democrats represent people on the centre left
@molsy1768 If your post is serious, I believe you are exactly the type of person mentioned! Then again, "hard" is enough of an indicator for me to recognise the potential...
Bye Bye Labour.
Love how the hard-of-thinking say the word "barrister" like its a cutting insult rather than an impressive certification of a mass amount of legal knowledge.
She isn’t standing again, she has made a stand over housing, it’s not a big deal. Calm down client media… your bias is showing.
Maybe the lady had enough of being gaslighted by Sunak and thought for herself.
Hey nick - you wanted to fine me for refusing medical Injection
Caller 2 was far more clued in than caller 1... still not sure what point he was trying to make
This country needs both centre left and centre right policies to thrive. Hard left won't work, hard right doesn't work... Centre is sensible.
Starmer is a joke. Members should demand a leadership vote.
Well this could win Labour more votes couldn't it? Could help many thousands of idiots change their minds 🙄
Lol that reform guy is a proper clown
"As far left as they come..."? I certainly hope so :).
Labour the real home of Tory mp's..... lol
Keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer. I don't like the idea of her joining Labour, but I think Starmer is playing the long game.
This sort of thing will divide the Labour Party as it has done the Tory one.
Starmer will be embracing the politics of Enoch Powell next 😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is a very own goal that won't go down well
Labour shouldn’t accept ANY Tory defectors. I’m sorry but what does it say about their principals?
С Днём Победы ! 9 мая 1945 год 🌹🌹
Starmer has a head of a right wing Tory. She is stepping down anyway. Get the Tories out!
Elphicke said she’s not running for labour at the next election
Starmer has managed this perfectly because she has said that the Tories cannot protect our borders…which is true
Labour tried being Labour in 2019 and lost spectacularly to a lying clown running on a platform of lies. Starmer needs to win this election and will do whatever it takes to break his parties 14 year losing streak. What matters is what he does when he gets power not what he does to get it.
This. The whole politics of integrity has failed 4 times on the spin! Pun intended!
Absolutely not. Winning at ANY cost is a recipe for disaster@@blazzz13
Elphicke is an ERG Brexiteer, the lowest of the low even by Brexiteer standards. Starmer has lost his mind.
Starmers new tory party 🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧
Just wanting to be associated with such an odious woman really does make me question if a labour government under starmer wont just be more of the same
Sunak is in heaven watching this he will get in again,🎉
Yep huge mistake kier let the mask slip with this one big time basically proving that he is not fit to lead the labour party and that he offer no different to rish when it comes to political ineptness, how he thought this was a great idea is baffeling
Election coming and Tories are not going to win.....so, she is clearing her yard arm and looking out for number one.
🤣👍greasy politicians and people wonder why some people dont vote......yuk.
AWe bless!
Ah shaddup!
Listening to focus groups is common sense.
Kier starmer needs to go he's going to be the down fall of labour party
LIsten to Nick and his mates trying to score points. Elphicke isnt standing at next Election.
Ruffle Starmers hair and he becomes Boris Johnson.👍
Nick is getting nervous.
I lol'd hard at the crisp fighter. I think Simon should offer this fighting style as a prelim... If he did this, i will crisp fight anyone!!! Smiths Vs Walkers Aldi Vs lidl , etc etc. C'mon !!
The guy is hard left???? Is this man certified insane??? Unfortunately, yes he is.
No
●Ever Changing Starmer Sutra positions are interesting. Per BBC Nick Watt - Kiers chasing brexiteer redwall hero voters. (i.e., 1 in 3 Labourites like my big fam & I, who are either on strike or shifting towards reformUK). Hmm ... i think my large extended family will stay on strike but if Suella Francois Mogg defect, now that will convince us !
Oh no - you labour lot , you’ve got the biggest U Turner in the business wait till he has to make a decision on security when we are threatened
Shaun is a bad person
Bring back corbyn that's what the labour party needs keir starmer is a hard right whose infiltrated the labour party and accepting Natalie right left elphicke has shown Judas starmer for who he is
For goodness sake what u playing at Starmer??? We are trying to get rid of Torys !! You are excepting them in our party!! We dont want Torys have you forgotton you are LABOUR!!!!
Labour tried being Labour in 2019 and lost spectacularly to a lying clown running on a platform of lies. Starmer needs to win this election and will do whatever it takes to break his parties 14 year losing streak. What matters is what he does when he gets power not what he does to get it.
@@Jonnyonthespot123copy pasting the same stuff isn't clever
Nick the most boring man on radio. Time to retire Nick
Love the way you Tories think you can pronounce on Labour ethics.
The caller is nonsensical...Corbyn corbyn and....
Where is Sangita?
Fired. Get over it.
@@Dynasty1818That you Vanessa?
Mr Starmers journey in the Labour Party from his loyal JC days, to a creature of cheap opportunism and what l thought the very ideological limit of the Labour right. Now this absolute political folly, out of his depth, with appalling judgement ( taken with his Gaza comments) An extreme right wing Tory, in the bowels of Christ, examine yourself…
BRING BACK SANGITA
Just saying it says ‘deflecting’ not ‘defecting’ in the video description
all hypothesis
NEED,S A JOB
Starmer the pabloite.
What were Starmer's choices in this matter/ Just asking.
Refuse admission and tell her to go to reform
@@tryingmybest9819 How about this for a win win win win. She defects to labour and gives labour its first win. Starmer withdraws the whip and kicks her out , another win. He reinstates Dian Abbot another win and reinstates Corbin another win. I make that 4 wins that would increase his vote share.
@HomeGrownVeg I don't see him allowing Corbyn back in. He's hoping he runs as an independent and loses but I think he'd win as an independent. If he brings Corbyn back, he opens himself to the same old Labour jibes
My guess is Abbott will get her card back though.
Bring back Sangita
TORIES ARE FINISHED 😂😂😂😂😂
Not if labour can help it 😂
Starmer is a Tory
WHAT HAPPENED TO SANGITA MYSKA?????
No one knows or cares..
Can't you search online for it?
@@djbogz1921 We need to hear from the very people as to why they fired her...!! That's my point!!
@vincentblack7467 No one knows or cares? What kind of unintelligible statement is that!?
No one cares??? LOL!! My friend, many people care about the real reason Sanjita was removed from LBC!!
@@MA-ws3hx They made a statement last week. Her contract had come to an end, and it wasn't renewed.
Tel aviv keith a vile individual
Bring back Sangita