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  • Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
  • Deputing foreign secretary Andrew Mitchell has hit out at Labour defector Natalie Elphicke after she denied claims that she tried to lobby the Justice Secretary over the trial of her sex offender ex-husband.
    It comes after she was accused of trying to lobby the Justice Secretary over the trial of her sex offender ex-husband.
    Mr Mitchell told LBC's Sunday with Lewis Goodall: "Traitors never sleep well, they are despised by their old party and they're never trusted by their old party.
    "I would be very surprised indeed if anyone were to follow Natalie Elphicke who is already presenting very serious problems of principle for the leader of the Labour party who was a former Director of Public Prosecutions.
    "If you look at what she's said, she's in opposition to almost everything the Labour party stands for."
    Carol Vorderman provides her thoughts and analysis on the defection.
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Комментарии • 756

  • @ShinnyDome-em1uj
    @ShinnyDome-em1uj 19 дней назад +267

    Labour refused to let Jamie Driscoll stand to be a Mayor on the alleged ground that they have very high standards ... and then we have this!

    • @nicksimmons7234
      @nicksimmons7234 19 дней назад +6

      Jaime was going to win and show Starmer up, what happened?

    • @ShinnyDome-em1uj
      @ShinnyDome-em1uj 19 дней назад +14

      Your question is irrelevant to the point being made, and you probably know the answer.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 19 дней назад +10

      @@nicksimmons7234 His score is nowhere as laughable as Susan Hall's. He was a very valuable candidate. We will see what Kim achieves.

    • @davewright9312
      @davewright9312 19 дней назад +15

      Labour have very high standards ha ha ha ha priceless

    • @ashleywilson2072
      @ashleywilson2072 19 дней назад

      Jamie is a socialist. He has no place in the modern democratic Labour Party

  • @bigdaz7272
    @bigdaz7272 19 дней назад +236

    Bring back Sangita.
    Justice for Sangita.

    • @rusticgames7796
      @rusticgames7796 19 дней назад +10

      What happened to her?

    • @lawrenceabbott5292
      @lawrenceabbott5292 19 дней назад +4

      Vote REFORM for the right to return in 2029.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 19 дней назад +11

      I have to laugh my head off: your post comes with the byline "Translate into english"> I guess that's why LBC do not understand any of us asking to bring Sangita back. It is not English lol.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 19 дней назад +38

      @@rusticgames7796 She was ousted for criticising an Israeli politician to his face regarding the current war on Gaza. She is accused of anti-semitism (lol: I am Jewish and also against Netanyahu and his brand of Zionism!!)

    • @user-fg5fh9ps5u
      @user-fg5fh9ps5u 19 дней назад +7

      Sangita was ok she did upset a few callers

  • @Zabfo
    @Zabfo 19 дней назад +146

    Labour/Tory, whats the difference? - we are about to exchange one set of political grifters for another - time for PR

    • @matthewframpton8737
      @matthewframpton8737 19 дней назад +9

      Agreed. But the only way you GET PR is with 2x Terms of Labour. So grit your teeth and do the important thing.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 19 дней назад +5

      We all know Labur grifters will be better than tory grifters (even though I am also fuming about Starmer)

    • @KlownFPV
      @KlownFPV 19 дней назад +2

      What's the difference?! 🤣

    • @davewright9312
      @davewright9312 19 дней назад +5

      ​@@matthewframpton8737labour will never implement PR just like the tories won't as it it's an end to either party getting a majority. Matthew you are clearly living in dream world... It would be like turkeys looking forward to Christmas

    • @doreenhollywood7459
      @doreenhollywood7459 19 дней назад +7

      Don't vote for either of them then

  • @Anmeteor9663
    @Anmeteor9663 19 дней назад +73

    Anyone who had any faith in Starmer as a man of principle was already deluded or hasn't been paying attention.
    How did you miss his headlong rush to dump all previous policy promises, anyone with even slightly left views and charge to the right?
    Elphicke is just the obvious symptom of the sickness when Abbott is still out.

    • @katpuss6564
      @katpuss6564 19 дней назад +1

      I want to know WHY DIANNE is still in the LEIBOR PARTY.

    • @maverick5039
      @maverick5039 19 дней назад +6

      @@katpuss6564she’s not she’s been kicked out and sits as an Independent

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @Anmeteor He's trying to win an election. Principles are always compromised. Welcome to the real world of politics.😊

    • @tonybennett4159
      @tonybennett4159 19 дней назад

      @@maverick5039 That's news to me and probably Abbott too. This must be VERY recent, so where did you read it?

    • @friedaelizabethchorlton8654
      @friedaelizabethchorlton8654 19 дней назад +8

      Totally agree Keir is a wolf in sheep's clothing .

  • @ThomasKing19933
    @ThomasKing19933 19 дней назад +165

    You're lucky you to have someone as brilliant as Carol, LBC. It's a shame what you did to Sangita.

    • @paulandhisguitars
      @paulandhisguitars 19 дней назад +15

      She will if she asks any difficult questions to any likud representatives.

    • @lawrenceabbott5292
      @lawrenceabbott5292 19 дней назад +2

      She definitely "enhances" the program in many ways. Not sure her third class "engineering" degree really helps her here. Nor does her "un-earned" rank in the RAF.

    • @Chris-xv2gm
      @Chris-xv2gm 19 дней назад +3

      Brilliant? That's a fxcking bar.

    • @Andyreally
      @Andyreally 19 дней назад +10

      @@lawrenceabbott5292whereas you earned a degree in engineering at what level?

    • @Chris-xv2gm
      @Chris-xv2gm 19 дней назад +2

      ​@@lawrenceabbott5292Dude, did I post that? Were we separated at birth? 😂 I do believe her much vaunted degree was a fail? Having served 28 years in the RAF I'm not too impressed to see her plastic backside in a Group Captain's rig.

  • @jamesbennettmusic2154
    @jamesbennettmusic2154 19 дней назад +89

    Keir is letting us know that he’s happy to embrace both corruption and morally reprehensible figures.

  • @Sion.leon96
    @Sion.leon96 19 дней назад +127

    In similar news, Listeners are fuming with LBC over lack of Sangita Myska and transparency surrounding her removal.

    • @wcfields547
      @wcfields547 19 дней назад +15

      And replacing her with the awful Vanessa

    • @traviscutler9912
      @traviscutler9912 19 дней назад +4

      Who owns LBC

    • @aion5837
      @aion5837 19 дней назад +2

      You must know that this site is nothing more than a mouth-piece.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @Sion Haven't you got over your fume yet?

  • @FilmNerdy
    @FilmNerdy 19 дней назад +10

    I was wobbling on Labour for a long time. This did it for me. I torn my Labour membership and decided to join the Lib Dems and will be voting for them. I hope that me being a member can represent a working class voice and reclaim ownership on what is seen as traditionally "Labour" policies like more council/social housing, ending right to buy, bringing rail into public ownership, and workplace democracy/workers co-partnerships with their employer.

  • @edc8388
    @edc8388 19 дней назад +182

    She is the last straw for me, the Labour Party is no longer a socialist party, it no longer represents my views, they are now Red Tory's and I am out. Not to the Tory's of course, I'm seriously disappointed, I'm not mad. Sadly I'm not sure what is left, not a lot, that's for sure.

    • @janewright2800
      @janewright2800 19 дней назад +1

      It hasn't been a proper socialist party for years except when Corbyn was leader, but is definitely at its worst now!

    • @Sherluck93
      @Sherluck93 19 дней назад +7

      Not mad. Not for. But out. Great stance! 🤷‍♀️

    • @lawrenceabbott5292
      @lawrenceabbott5292 19 дней назад +3

      No fan of the Conservatives but I don't think socialists will help you. What we need are university students doing STEM and working in the creative industries to actually generate enhanced GDP once they graduate.

    • @Sherluck93
      @Sherluck93 19 дней назад +9

      @@lawrenceabbott5292 There are two generations like that, wasted. We cherish art, we are well educated. No luck. Judging from your comment, you don't even know we exist. Hi 👋

    • @mikeclifford7740
      @mikeclifford7740 19 дней назад +9

      They're not even red anymore

  • @decoyfox
    @decoyfox 19 дней назад +121

    Kier always looked, sounded and acted like a Tory, always thought he'd defect to be honest

    • @sarahjaneross2918
      @sarahjaneross2918 19 дней назад +12

      I wish he would defect so we can have the Labour Party back

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 19 дней назад

      You'll vote Labour in though

    • @buntyjoy1800
      @buntyjoy1800 19 дней назад +1

      Corbyn tried that and lost spectacularly.

    • @AlBarzUK
      @AlBarzUK 19 дней назад +2

      @@buntyjoy1800 you’ve never seen The Labour Files, obviously.

    • @buntyjoy1800
      @buntyjoy1800 19 дней назад

      @@AlBarzUK Don't tell me, he actually won.

  • @NikoHL
    @NikoHL 19 дней назад +11

    Welcome to the real world Carol. Starmer has zero principles and I won't be voting Labour for 1st time. Where is Sangita Myska ??

  • @Markfarrar60
    @Markfarrar60 19 дней назад +45

    Im a working class man,in the local elections , for the first time in my life, i didnt vote labour. , as they simply dont represent me, they are just the tory party with a red tie ,they should not accept an MP who has been complicit in the most corrupt government we've ever had,, after this i rest my case, , where is the morality, its so disappointing. , i voted green by the way

    • @nazirkazi2588
      @nazirkazi2588 19 дней назад +5

      I went Green.

    • @Bad-wolfe
      @Bad-wolfe 19 дней назад

      They haven't represented you for decades...

    • @Markfarrar60
      @Markfarrar60 19 дней назад +2

      @@Bad-wolfe true but I decided to ditch tactical voting, I hate the tories so much just wanted them out,however you have to vote for the policies that you resonate with, try to back PR

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад +1

      @Mark So the penny finally dropped. They're only interested in the working class vote...not the working classes!

    • @user-zj2yb1qt3d
      @user-zj2yb1qt3d 18 дней назад

      Don’t forget the last true socialist labour leader ( corbyn ) who got absolutely smashed by the media with lie after lie after lie got hammered in the last GE.
      Since 1945 we have had 53 years of the tories.
      Since 1979 we had 32 years of the tories.
      And look what has happened.

  • @robbie9629
    @robbie9629 19 дней назад +29

    Starmer ensured all the checks were carried out into Elphicke's history and couldn't find anything even slightly left wing about her and not a wiff of socialism. So she passes with flying colours.
    Welcome to Starmers Labour Party

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 18 дней назад +2

      You know she's not standing at the election yes? She isn't gong to represent anyone. Would you rather she stayed in the tory party until then and gave the tories more seats?

    • @robbie9629
      @robbie9629 18 дней назад +3

      @@davecross4493 I'd rather the Labour Party was lead by a man of principle and not a weathervane.

    • @scooble
      @scooble 17 дней назад

      @@davecross4493 ...well that's alright then

    • @belindamay8063
      @belindamay8063 17 дней назад

      @@robbie9629 I’m grateful for what we’ve got.

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 16 дней назад

      @@robbie9629 I don't know what you mean by that. Anyone can join the any party as long as they are not put up as a candidate. Parties don't tend to refuse people for things they said outside the party. You can only throw someone out for not abiding by party rules once in the party.

  • @Cal1gula666
    @Cal1gula666 19 дней назад +36

    I agree, Carol. This woman doesn't belong in politics at all.

  • @davidkeogh1570
    @davidkeogh1570 19 дней назад +37

    Starmer tell her to become an independent as you are not that desperate,have a backbone man.

  • @monkeymanbob
    @monkeymanbob 19 дней назад +40

    Know how you feel Carol, the way LBC treated award winning, audience growing Sangita Myska has disappointed me too

    • @Biter1975
      @Biter1975 19 дней назад +1

      She was nonsensical imo.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @monkey She's trying to avoid listeners like you.

    • @monkeymanbob
      @monkeymanbob 19 дней назад +2

      @@chatham43 Mate.
      That doesn't event make sense. That you thought to type this out thinking was witty or an own is just embarrassing.
      Tories comedians really are the worse. Better luck next time.

  • @chloelayla017
    @chloelayla017 19 дней назад +19

    Have been saying for a long time that Kier is not anybody I could ever vote for and was poo-pooed and told I was just allowing the tories back in power. Well centrists, the penny is finally dropping isn't it but you've made the bed for us haven't you.

  • @HeyBugguLuggs
    @HeyBugguLuggs 19 дней назад +15

    I personally find it amusing that Carol has been so naive as to believe the Labour Party were innocent 😇? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 18 дней назад

      You know she's not standing at the election yes? She isn't gong to represent anyone. Would you rather she stayed in the tory party until then and gave the tories more seats?

  • @jonsteele7227
    @jonsteele7227 19 дней назад +34

    Can I point out that Robert Buckland's story means he is either lying now to the Mail and made this story up. Or he was dishonest at the time by with holding that information from the inquiry. What an own goal by the tories. "We are all dishonest". This story is actually seriously damaging to Bucklands credibility. I dont support Labour welcoming Elphinstone but I understand the short term gain and decision. But all Labour MP's need to point out now is that Buckland is dishonest then or now. There is no other way.

    • @martinhommel9967
      @martinhommel9967 19 дней назад +6

      Just remember this: a Tory speaks, a Tory lies

    • @jonsteele7227
      @jonsteele7227 19 дней назад

      @@martinhommel9967 Thanks for the advice. But It is something I have known for 5 decades

    • @martinhommel9967
      @martinhommel9967 19 дней назад

      @@jonsteele7227 it can’t be stated enough

  • @cassandrabellingham8486
    @cassandrabellingham8486 19 дней назад +14

    Kier Starmer is being Kier Starmer. This is consistent with the last 4 years in Labour politics. Anyone who thinks he is offering anything other than Tory continuity government has not been paying attention.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @Cassandra He's trying to win an election. Do you want another Corbyn disaster? The Brits don't buy socialism and never have. It's inherently conservative with a small "c".

  • @andyangyh
    @andyangyh 19 дней назад +11

    Possibly why so many people have lost faith in politics of every stripe. "Here are my principles. If you don´t like them I have others." What exactly does Labour stand for now?

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @andy Winning the next election?

  • @r4v5t4r
    @r4v5t4r 19 дней назад +6

    You won't get decent and honest politics with starmer. Dont vote Labour.

  • @tobyalan8874
    @tobyalan8874 19 дней назад +61

    Lock Buckland up. Labour have now lost my vote. I have now lost faith in Kier Starmer due to this.

    • @matthewframpton8737
      @matthewframpton8737 19 дней назад +14

      It's Labour or the Tories mate. Pick one. Personally - Labour will need to do a LOT more than this to be worse than the Tories in my books. (Yes she's repugnant - but she doesn't matter enough to get me to change my vote to support *vauge gestures at the Conservative party since 2010*)

    • @Land-of-reason
      @Land-of-reason 19 дней назад +4

      @@matthewframpton8737the only viable party is REFORM UK.

    • @matthewframpton8737
      @matthewframpton8737 19 дней назад +7

      @@Land-of-reason I feel really bad for you man that you've been taken in by that Con. But no, no it is not. They offer EXACTLY the same as the Tories but with even MORE populism.

    • @hanselmansell7555
      @hanselmansell7555 19 дней назад

      ❎️

    • @bigjob7551
      @bigjob7551 19 дней назад +3

      It took you this long?

  • @PietroCozziTinin
    @PietroCozziTinin 19 дней назад +17

    There's NO-zero-negative politician that cares one flying hoot about what civilians think.

    • @utredutredson1686
      @utredutredson1686 19 дней назад +2

      there are obviously a few but I understand your point

    • @katpuss6564
      @katpuss6564 19 дней назад +1

      I trust George Galloway, Craig Murray and Richard Medhurst. And all of the others who are funding themselves to stand for the Worker's Party. And where they don't stand INDEPENDENT are a BETTER BET THAN ANY F THE OTHERS. in red white yellow or green.

    • @PietroCozziTinin
      @PietroCozziTinin 19 дней назад

      @@katpuss6564 I follow Galloway and indeed think he is honest and cares about a few honourable issues. I'm an Italian living in The Netherlands so ven as his politics will never touch me I do admire his guts.

    • @MrRailjunkie
      @MrRailjunkie 19 дней назад +2

      @@katpuss6564 Galloway is a homophobic bigot but I do respect his honesty about it.

  • @thisismetoday
    @thisismetoday 18 дней назад +3

    How can any of these people still walk around and a) not be completely embarrassed!?? And b) not be shun by their peers?

  • @alancooper7018
    @alancooper7018 19 дней назад +36

    We have had more than enough of right wing Tory politicians,; there is no place in theory for this person to be in the Labour Party. No way would I ever vote for Labour under Keir Starmer.

    • @TheJon2442
      @TheJon2442 19 дней назад

      Right wing, do yourself a favour. The Tories are far more left wing than Liebour. Looking at the national debt, they have outdone Liebour in that respect!!!! They have no backbone, another lefty trend... I could go on but think you may have a few grey cells!

    • @mrjinks5641
      @mrjinks5641 18 дней назад

      Right wing 😂😂 stop it.

    • @ValerieSinclairStevens
      @ValerieSinclairStevens 18 дней назад

      If Starmer was ethical he would stand down and make way for a real Labour leader

    • @mrjinks5641
      @mrjinks5641 18 дней назад

      @@ValerieSinclairStevens labour is doomed 🤣

  • @Midland_Wolf_71
    @Midland_Wolf_71 19 дней назад +32

    I’m with you Carol, I’m with Jess too… The whole” thing stinks. To BEAT anyone at ANYTHING you just need to be better. Starmer by falling to their levels and playing the same old, well worm political games has PROVEN what many of us have ALWAYS thought of him… A man who can show integrity and decency is FAR MORE LIKELY to carry people with him. Starmer has ZERO integrity, the man’s a FRAUD, it’s just MORE if the SAME and we REALLY deserve BETTER, particularly after 14 years of pure idiocy. Elphicke is a narcissist, quite possibly a true sociopath and Starmer would have been wise to “hold talks” and then out her at PMQs, letting EVERYONE know Labour are ABOVE such SH1TE.
    It stinks, Starmer stinks IMO and for the first time in my life I shall have to hold my nose when giving my vote, I’d rather vote GREEN if they had the numbers to go forward. Starmer is taking the Polling Leads for granted, Taking US for granted (as the Local Election Muslim votes proved). He’s arrogant and although he will be PM he needs to be wiser and show a little more NOUS.

    • @caroldaviddaviejohnson2225
      @caroldaviddaviejohnson2225 19 дней назад +10

      👏👏 Well said! I've been a Labour voter for over 40 years, and I am horrified at Elphicke being welcomed into the Labour Party. She is everything we have railed against for the last 14 years, her values and beliefs are in the sewer. What on earth was Starmer thinking? Deeply disappointing and so angry that this idiotic move has left me pondering where to place my vote. Of course the idiots will say" so you want a tory government then?" Erm, no, I will die an old woman having never ever voted for a tory, BUT, I won't vote for a party that dredges up the bottom feeders from the tory benches either, to sit on Labour benches! Elphicke is rotten to the core, simple as that and it doesn't sit well at all. This stunt to get one over on Sunak is short-sighted and a massive own goal.

    • @mohammedmir777
      @mohammedmir777 19 дней назад +1

      Another sewerella.😂😂😂

    • @mohammedmir777
      @mohammedmir777 19 дней назад +3

      Starmer more dangerously than Tony two face Blair 😳

    • @doreenhollywood7459
      @doreenhollywood7459 19 дней назад

      Don't vote labour then..

    • @hanselmansell7555
      @hanselmansell7555 19 дней назад

      ❎️

  • @stevenpaterson5100
    @stevenpaterson5100 19 дней назад +8

    Who in their right mind ever had any faith in Keir Starmer?

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @steven Well you did for a start.

    • @stevenpaterson5100
      @stevenpaterson5100 18 дней назад +1

      @@chatham43 what are you talking about,I've never voted Labour in my life and never will.

  • @857noel
    @857noel 19 дней назад +42

    I was undecided whether or not to vote for Labour but this has convinced me not too

    • @daviddavidson7079
      @daviddavidson7079 19 дней назад +8

      So basically you want another Conservative government then

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 19 дней назад +5

      @@daviddavidson7079 Not necessarily. There are options: libdems, greens, SNP, some independent. The main point is: tories should not get a majority.

    • @matthewframpton8737
      @matthewframpton8737 19 дней назад +7

      It's Labour or the Tories mate. Pick one. Personally - Labour will need to do a LOT more than this to be worse than the Tories in my books. (Yes she's repugnant - but she doesn't matter enough to get me to change my vote to support *vauge gestures at the Conservative party since 2010*)

    • @katpuss6564
      @katpuss6564 19 дней назад

      @@daviddavidson7079 In your dreams....

    • @solomonsmith3658
      @solomonsmith3658 19 дней назад +6

      @@matthewframpton8737very narrow minded. It’s not just about who gets into power, there are people you can vote for that may influence the larger parties policies. For example, when people voted for UKIP it got them a referendum for scaring the tories. If more people vote green, it may scare Labour into more left wing policies

  • @smarcier2719
    @smarcier2719 19 дней назад +8

    Elphic is the new labourtory party. It's a one party system in Britain now .

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 18 дней назад

      You know she's not standing at the election yes? She isn't gong to represent anyone. Would you rather she stayed in the tory party until then and gave the tories more seats?

    • @smarcier2719
      @smarcier2719 18 дней назад

      @@davecross4493 NO Tories full stop. We used to know who the enemy was ,not now under Starmer. Starmer has taken the party so far ROC only closet Tories and proud to be loud Tories feel at home in labour.

  • @scottmoyle879
    @scottmoyle879 19 дней назад +15

    If Buckland felt so compromised why has he waited until now to speak out? Because it’s behaviour he might expect from a Tory but now she’s crossed to Labour it comprises their higher standards of behaviour?

    • @SimonSmith-yd6tt
      @SimonSmith-yd6tt 19 дней назад

      it was a typical Tory ignore the rules job and kept secret as usual, now Starmer's taken on this vile MP it's ammo for the Tories to use to get their own indiscretions and mismanagement of the country off the front pages

  • @cleolector710
    @cleolector710 19 дней назад +9

    Labour not Labour it's
    2nd Conservative

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 18 дней назад

      You know she's not standing at the election yes? She isn't gong to represent anyone. Would you rather she stayed in the tory party until then and gave the tories more seats?

  • @user-xc8ir7ng9z
    @user-xc8ir7ng9z 19 дней назад +4

    The fact that anyone who has faith in Keith Starver has a radio show in the UK should scare us all. Mind you it's Leading Britain's Censorship.!

  • @brachiator1
    @brachiator1 19 дней назад +4

    I don't believe in political tribalism. And I want to see Labour dismantle the Conservative Party one minister at a time until Sunak finally calls for a general election.

  • @montyoneify
    @montyoneify 19 дней назад +2

    Bad bad move. I am a lifelong Labour voter. 40 years plus. Horrendous woman. Get her out. I agree wholeheartedly with you. Tories out, but I will watch my party and expect them to deliver.

  • @donttrip8282
    @donttrip8282 19 дней назад +5

    Get ready for a Purple Tory government larping as a Labour governement. We tried to tell you...

  • @rokuro80
    @rokuro80 19 дней назад +16

    if this isn't an indication to vote liberal democrat or green I don't know what is

    • @katpuss6564
      @katpuss6564 19 дней назад

      Liberal are pro /Israel... Green haven't got any ooomph.

  • @IanReesDavies
    @IanReesDavies 19 дней назад +15

    Never did I believe Starmer was anything but someone who is only interested in himself and very much like the Tories....welcoming them into the party with open arms, Elphicke is a wrong un. Bring back Corbyn. Not even tactical voting can help us, hoped it would. We're doomed. You mark my words, I've repeatedly said this since Starmer showed his face.

    • @doreenhollywood7459
      @doreenhollywood7459 19 дней назад +1

      Just vote for another party. People should not vote for them. They will be the same as the tories

  • @paulbird3235
    @paulbird3235 18 дней назад +2

    And they spent three weeks trying to bury Angela Raynor! We must question Starmer's judgement (yet again).

  • @mrs_h_makes
    @mrs_h_makes 19 дней назад +5

    I’m absolutely convinced he’s totally aware of what she is.. but is using it to make a statement about clueless Rishi..

    • @coppershark1973
      @coppershark1973 19 дней назад +3

      He needs to show that he won’t go to these dodgy levels to win votes. Win votes by actions that are positive not winning them by dropping levels.

  • @danielrawlings8355
    @danielrawlings8355 19 дней назад +3

    End all food and drink deliveries into the Borough of Westminster.
    Stop feeding the beast.

  • @lion73266
    @lion73266 19 дней назад +2

    Remember when Carol was well in with the Tory party? Hypocrite

  • @user-oe9hj9yl7m
    @user-oe9hj9yl7m 19 дней назад +3

    Why cross the floor but say you are not standing at the next election. Pointless !!!!

  • @JoeEbitDa
    @JoeEbitDa 19 дней назад +4

    Makes you wonder if Starmer gets all his advice from Murdoch.

    • @rosemarycuthbert4623
      @rosemarycuthbert4623 18 дней назад

      Couldn't agree more

    • @JoeEbitDa
      @JoeEbitDa 18 дней назад

      Having said that vilifying Starmer when you have a bunch of crooks as we have now in government is also not valid.

  • @danmayberry1185
    @danmayberry1185 19 дней назад +4

    Don't despair - Lord Cameron assured Laura K this morning that he is relieved by the defection, and that The Plan is working.

  • @JM-qd2ky
    @JM-qd2ky 18 дней назад +1

    If Natalie Elphicke has joined Labour then some Tory voters might vote Labour as well.

  • @isag.7468
    @isag.7468 19 дней назад +2

    Anyone who had an ounce of faith in Labour party need has a mental issue!

  • @peterscott6818
    @peterscott6818 19 дней назад +5

    I think it a huge mistake if anyone judges the Labour Party and Keir Starmer over this. Even bigger mistake to not vote Labour because of this.
    There is no doubt that Elphicke has espoused completely unacceptable views which make her unfitting to have any impact whatsoever on Labour Policy.
    Luckily, or rather more likely by intention (Starmer’s, most likely) she cannot do that. She is not standing at the next election and there is no way she can impact Labour policy - except in one area which is housing. In this area she has considerable experience and has views which have a huge overlap with Labour policy. She can be useful to Labour and on balance it may well have been a benefit overall to pursue that especially with the added benefit of creating more disarray for the Tories.
    However that benefit can easily erode if people start saying that this proves Starmer is right wing and cannot be trusted. It’s nonsense. Maybe he is right wing, which I very much doubt, but this doesn’t even get close to proving it.
    Tactical voting is the way forward whatever happens and I am grateful to you Carol for being such a champion for it. You vote for which party is best placed to get the Tory out. It’s that simple in this election. If you don’t, you help this party which has wreaked such havoc minimise damage.
    If Starmer is as bad as some say he will not be as bad as these Tories. No way!
    People say there’s no difference between Labour and Tory policy. Absolute garbage. I can list 20 policies really quickly that are hugely different from Tories and more if pressed. We could have Labour in power with LibDems as Opposition and a few Greens hopefully continuing Caroline Lucas’s impeccable example in Parliament. With Tories third and completely without influence. Isn’t that something to fight for? Let’s not get caught up in this non-issue as Elphicke can never influence Labour policy.
    If Starmer is as bad as some on the far left say then there is going to be more chance to pressure him from the left with few Tories around with zero power.

  • @emesfion
    @emesfion 12 дней назад

    I am horrified that this woman is in parliament, and I am further horrified that Labour has accepted her! It's disgusting

  • @richardkemp5550
    @richardkemp5550 19 дней назад +7

    I totally agree with you.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @richard You certainly do. And you're here to prove that!

  • @applepie8772
    @applepie8772 19 дней назад +16

    Need tories out so no choice. Reform is disturbing

    • @doreenhollywood7459
      @doreenhollywood7459 19 дней назад

      Labour and tories are both the same

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @apple Why are they disturbing..or haven't you reached that point yet?

  • @barnem108
    @barnem108 19 дней назад +7

    she kept his name. that says it all

  • @williammclaughlin497
    @williammclaughlin497 19 дней назад +2

    I totally agree with Carol, but i have since been told she is stepping down at next GE, so does it matter in the long run? Although letting people like her joining our party

  • @alasdairfinlayson
    @alasdairfinlayson 19 дней назад +1

    You've backed the wrong horse Carole

  • @AshMundo
    @AshMundo 19 дней назад +3

    We're Closer to having a one party state (we do already, tbh).

  • @annem5899
    @annem5899 19 дней назад +3

    Stammer are you mad ,yes I agree with you Carol it's unfathomable that this woman is excepted into the Labour party what the back is he thinking .

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @annem You don't have to agree with her. It's allowed here.

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 19 дней назад +5

    Tories out

  • @captpicard100
    @captpicard100 19 дней назад +16

    Yes, Labour have harmed themselves by accepting her, but it’s nowhere near as damaging as it is for the Tories.

    • @davewright9312
      @davewright9312 19 дней назад

      How is it damaging? the Tories know they will lose at the GE so don't care labour on the other hand have lost credibility in many who thought that they had some credibility to the rest of us who know they have no credibility they are just a laughing stock

  • @haydndavies2475
    @haydndavies2475 18 дней назад

    Horrified and disgusted.

  • @mste456
    @mste456 19 дней назад +1

    does he still not know what a woman is yet?!?!?

  • @paulgibbons2320
    @paulgibbons2320 19 дней назад +1

    Think Carol forgets she was not long ago a big cheer leader for David Cameron.

  • @petertheboomscott2104
    @petertheboomscott2104 19 дней назад +3

    Faith in Starmer.
    Who has ever had that to be fair.
    Whats Starmer going to do with Streeting.

  • @atambwalisametana6363
    @atambwalisametana6363 19 дней назад +2

    If this is what it has taken for anyone to question Starmers credentials to lead the Labour party, then they just haven't been paying attention.

    • @davecross4493
      @davecross4493 18 дней назад

      You know she's not standing at the election yes? She isn't gong to represent anyone. Would you rather she stayed in the tory party until then and gave the tories more seats?

  • @n2kos
    @n2kos 18 дней назад

    Spot on Carol! I am disgusted that Labour has done this and he is starting to divide people. Ms Elthick has done nothing for the people of Dover, she’s a hopeless mp and now THIS!

  • @arabellacox
    @arabellacox 17 дней назад +1

    A vote for the Green's is a vote for the Tories - just remember that!

  • @user-kg5cj2dl2k
    @user-kg5cj2dl2k 15 дней назад

    Absolutely ridiculous! What on earth is Starmer thinking? How can he accept this woman into the Labour Party? His decisions, especially regarding Israel's right to defend itself and the utter carnage that followed, is shameful and both politically disgusting and utterly heartless. Starmer is making some awful decisions whilst we need a moral, brave leader to distance Labour light miles away from the Tory party. Bring back Jess Phillips now.

  • @justinkindleysides1519
    @justinkindleysides1519 19 дней назад +1

    I am a lifelong labour supporter, thinking winning a possible (unlikely) few votes from the right at the cost of many (likely) from labour is ridiculous. Through Kier's (in my opinion) dreadful leadership I have been determined to hold my nose and still vote labour because of my hatred of the tories, now I have to choose between hatred and principle, I may not even vote now. I am tearing myself apart now. Horrendously naive decision.

  • @Soccarena
    @Soccarena 19 дней назад +6

    Carol, you must feel foolish now then after championing Labour so much?

    • @seamuspadraigsanders431
      @seamuspadraigsanders431 19 дней назад

      They're just protecting their own necks due to imminent Labour led collapse.

  • @kappaslapper14
    @kappaslapper14 19 дней назад +1

    Carol can you please do us all a favour and put yourself on the road to becoming 1st sane PM iv ever would of seen in my 43 years !

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 19 дней назад

      @kappas But what about poor Sangita. Forgotten about her already?

  • @michaelcoward1902
    @michaelcoward1902 16 дней назад

    Why do we keep electing party leaders who hate the party?

  • @rosemarycuthbert4623
    @rosemarycuthbert4623 18 дней назад +1

    Even Michael Fabricant couldn't believe it as she is so horribly right wing

  • @frankydaulman2291
    @frankydaulman2291 19 дней назад

    I'd advise Starmer to remove the whip from her or suspend it pending further investigation if he wants to regain credibility

  • @mjc8281
    @mjc8281 19 дней назад +3

    Don't get me wrong if I was drawing up a list of Tory MP's I dislike at the start of last week Natalie Elphicke would be right up there with the worst of them and I don't see she adds anything to the Labour party and I don't personally like her any more as a result. However, the big knock on Starmer is he is boring and safe... Whatever you think of Elphicke this isn't a safety first nor a boring move!

    • @user-hs4ti2dg6l
      @user-hs4ti2dg6l 17 дней назад

      No, the"big knock" on Starmer is that he's a habitual and shameless liar without any principles.

    • @mjc8281
      @mjc8281 17 дней назад

      @@user-hs4ti2dg6l Can't say that is one I have heard a lot myself, not saying that I disbelieve you. I would be stunned if you haven't heard people saying he is dull and risk avarice?

  • @thisismetoday
    @thisismetoday 18 дней назад +1

    13:50 Can these radio hosts just let people speak. Don’t interrupt her before she has even finished her first point! It really annoys me!

  • @sophsaund304
    @sophsaund304 18 дней назад

    Yes i completely agree, totally unnecessary and hugely disappointing...

  • @arthursmall77
    @arthursmall77 19 дней назад

    How can Starmer be taken seriously as an agent for change when he displays such astonishingly poor judgement. Should such a man really be considered as a man with the necessary qualities to lead the UK? Or is he just as useless and devoid of talent as the offerings on the other side?

  • @LisaBrady-cw8bp
    @LisaBrady-cw8bp 3 дня назад

    Yes Carol I agree With You! Entirely

  • @Benzknees
    @Benzknees 19 дней назад +1

    Who cares what some past-it minor celebrity says in a desperate attempt to stay in the public eye.

  • @gezparks9630
    @gezparks9630 18 дней назад

    Excellent and informative journalism from Carol. Thank you!

  • @grahamturvill9269
    @grahamturvill9269 18 дней назад

    When a person with her values is acceptable to the Labour Party alarm bells have to be ringing of their mountings. These people don't work for working people, and when the Overton window has shifted so far right it's a grace concern for the future of this country.

  • @andirutherford2615
    @andirutherford2615 19 дней назад

    MPs should not be allowed to cross the floor, should be a by-election.

  • @annishilcock4587
    @annishilcock4587 19 дней назад +4

    It leaves a lot of questions for Labour AND for the Tories! That Buckland has come out with this now, 4 years later and that that there is also a list of other MPs who signed a letter attempting to pervert the course of justice leaves a lot of questions to be asked..and knowing of her reputation why have the Tories condoned her behaviour for years. Plus...Starmer wants to win them lets see the New Beginning Carol: Well said Alison!

  • @mdog111
    @mdog111 18 дней назад

    Bizarre that someone with as high an IQ as Carol Vorderman would have ever had any faith in Keir Starmer in the first place! It's been patently obvious since 2019 that there are only the slightest of differences between the Tories and Starmer's Labour.

  • @MelanieClarkeOneandOnly
    @MelanieClarkeOneandOnly 18 дней назад

    💯% They need to kick her out!!! Her first statement she mentioned with Labour dealing with the "small boats". Kick her out or Starmer also needs to go!

  • @tarquinmerryweather4929
    @tarquinmerryweather4929 18 дней назад

    Buckland should be investigated for breaking the Ministerial Code. He should be suspended!
    Elphicke is a rebel and at best be a housing advisor. She's not standing again and she's not getting a peerage. She has apologised for her remarks about her ex. Labour scores 0 and Tories score -1. End of...

  • @chatham43
    @chatham43 19 дней назад

    ...not being middle class..Labour is not the party for me.

  • @Skylark_Jones
    @Skylark_Jones 4 дня назад

    People can be forgiven for thinking that the Labour Party seems to be a broadchurch with welcoming rightwing politicians whilst not being so welcome to it's own leftwing lights. (HINT: Diane Abbot).

  • @stream_gene
    @stream_gene 18 дней назад

    I lost faith in Starmer when he, as a former human rights lawyer, ordered his MPs to abstain on a vote on human rights legislation, i lost faith in him when he in essence told the labour members who had signed up under Corbyn to get lost. He's a red Tory, plain and simple, we'll be on course back to New Labour again.

  • @stephenwoods4316
    @stephenwoods4316 19 дней назад

    You could vote 'Reform' Carol Vordman

  • @emmental2020
    @emmental2020 18 дней назад

    She had any faith in the backstabbing, flipflopping Starmer?

  • @fariss8327
    @fariss8327 18 дней назад

    carol vorderman should be fuming with her own bosses at LBC after what they did to Sangita Myska!

  • @kylehunter2012
    @kylehunter2012 18 дней назад

    I can’t see Labour accepting Elphicke as anything other than a short term dig at Sunak, which I think has backfired since it’s instantly clear what kind of person she is

  • @AndrogyneMichinaga
    @AndrogyneMichinaga 18 дней назад

    Thanks. Also, bring back Sangita. LBC is disreputable for the way that they got rid of her.

  • @roberttelford745
    @roberttelford745 19 дней назад

    I'm just bemused why it took so long to cotton on.
    They've been shameless for years now.
    And Starmer is a waste of space

  • @Dmac-7558
    @Dmac-7558 19 дней назад +1

    The UK is finished when Starmers Islamic front party gain power

  • @alanrumble7238
    @alanrumble7238 19 дней назад

    Irrespective of Buckland's claims .Elphicke has proved herself to be on the far right and less than the sharpest tool in the box. How could Starmer possibly think that she would be an asset to Labour if he were not a Tory with a red rosette?

  • @johnwebster5005
    @johnwebster5005 17 дней назад

    Starmer thinks he is clever - he is not. We now have a uniparty. What really is the difference?

  • @thegeneral123
    @thegeneral123 19 дней назад

    Labour have moved from centre left to centre right under Starmer.
    While I'm shocked and surprised at this move. I think it won't matter to the voters as most don't care or follow politics and all they will see is another Tory moved to Labour.

  • @carlafinch705
    @carlafinch705 19 дней назад +2

    Andy Brigeden is the only MP speaking out and is making sense to me rite about now.

  • @MattBooth
    @MattBooth 19 дней назад +1

    I couldn't care less. It's embarassing for the Tories and there's no guarantee her local CLP will select her to stand in the next election. They likely have their own candidate who's been working hard to unseat her.