Glad you could check that for me. Odd that they would put a slot right there but not have anything for it, I wonder if something was planned but they ran out of time?
@@entirelyalive It's possible that it was planned as a monument, but for whatever reason was not implemented. Which is strange considering the graphics for it already exist...
@@PeteL-u1d idk , maybe i don't like the fact babylonians use peasant armies. If it happened it was for a brief period under the new kassite regime and liberation from assyria but eventually they get professional armies since it was a job there to be a soldier . Levies are temporary. So i count on radious to give babylon a few more legit infantry
From a multi-hour distraction down a rabbit hole, I think the Ziggurat of Enlil in the game isn't the one at Nippur, but the one at Dur-Kurigalzu. Aside from being in the namesake region but separated in-game from the city like Babylon's has been, its surviving base looks identical, and its tallness looks in proportion with the game model. Not sure if you have ever covered it but I will probably run across the episode if you have.
As for the art, I am pretty bad at scale and proportion, so I don't actually know if they are using the right reconstruction or not. But they definitely put it in the Nippur province, and there is a dur-kurigalzu province to the north, so I think the temple at Nippur was their intention, reguardless of the reconstruction they used.
Ah, I was only looking in Egypt, which is why I didn't find it, but of course you are right that it is probably the Sudanese site. Those are all about 30 million years old, so should have been visible in ancient times.
That is a good catch. It looks like a ruined city, and might be a reference to the cycladic civilization, which was old and possibly gone already by the bronze age collapse. The world was old already even for these first civilizations.
@@entirelyalive Yes there are multiple sites on Naxos. The in game placement is prob random in the context of the island, as up north the first thing i can recall is site of mycenaean tomb. I was thinking it might be the site at Korfari ton Amygdalion. Altough i remember from when researching Naxos a while back there are lesser known sites too, I've read about one in a paper Korfi t'Aroniou without finding its location or any more references. There are also early bronze age settlements south of the island Spedos and Kalandos. Also hard to find information about. There is also a site at Stelida, oldest on island very interesting
@@entirelyalive But most likely Korfari ton Amygdalion, a town that was destroyed and abandoned before the bronze age. At the site you can still find stones from slings, evidence of an attack.
I have considered it, and I think it would be a fantastic project. However, the Oldest Stories podcast still has a long way to go, end date there is 579bce and we are only just at 850. Carrying China up to the Qin emperor would be great fun, but it is a long, long way away.
There's a channel called Serious Trivia who is currently covering Three Kingdoms history since TW3K's launch. After he's done with 3K he said that he will cover early Chinese history like the Shang and Zhou dynasties.
@@camillebai5156 No problem. He has over 300 videos on 3K topics and is nearing the end, having just finished the conquest of Shu. He also plays TW games on his channel too.
My guess is that it open too many possibilities CA doesn't want to deal with. Pretty much any representation would need to take an opinion on what they looked like at this point, which could potentially raise controversy. I would say that they should be in the Moses-Joshua era, but plenty would disagree, and then how do you handle news reports of your game showing religious figures battling? Not saying I agree with CA here, Joshua's conquests are as key a part of canaanite history here as the Philistine conquests, but I do understand why they did it.
@@entirelyalive Agree but from what I've read there does appear to be evidence of Yaweh worshipping Hebrews. Taken in tandem with the Israel evidence, is there any need to claim religious sources?
A bit, but that is also realistic. The scale of civilization in Canaan was a tiny fraction of what the other areas had, and late bronze age was a nadir even from that low. The massive labor force required simply wasn't in the cards.
Your videos make me much more passionate about total war pharaoh than I thought I will be 😁
Perfect companion to the new update!
Well I'm subbed now. Excellent content.
It's a surprise they put these back in Total War, to be sure. But a welcome one.
them mesopotamians loved their ziggurats.
I also love me some ziggurats, can't blame them at all
@@entirelyalive honestly any ancient or classical civilization that made a step pyramid formation is still impressive in my book
"You know what this land needs? Big fking step triangle, that's what"
In front of the palace of knossos is a building slot but sadly not for a special monument. But it seems that you can build only the standard outposts.
Glad you could check that for me. Odd that they would put a slot right there but not have anything for it, I wonder if something was planned but they ran out of time?
@@entirelyalive It's possible that it was planned as a monument, but for whatever reason was not implemented. Which is strange considering the graphics for it already exist...
@@commandertodd2850 No budget/no time... who knows. :(
Great video can’t wait start my Babylonian campaign
the lack of professional units its what put me off them , i will go assyria then egypt and greece or hittites till Radious mod release
@@LauftFafa why? Just have babylonian nobility next to them and specialists.
@@PeteL-u1d idk , maybe i don't like the fact babylonians use peasant armies. If it happened it was for a brief period under the new kassite regime and liberation from assyria but eventually they get professional armies since it was a job there to be a soldier . Levies are temporary.
So i count on radious to give babylon a few more legit infantry
@@LauftFafa well and Assyria uses horses and not charriots. Only good versatile unit is their pioneers.
@@PeteL-u1d Assyria do have chariots , 2 types + cavalry .
its not like babylon who have just 1 legit infantry
Very interesting!
From a multi-hour distraction down a rabbit hole, I think the Ziggurat of Enlil in the game isn't the one at Nippur, but the one at Dur-Kurigalzu. Aside from being in the namesake region but separated in-game from the city like Babylon's has been, its surviving base looks identical, and its tallness looks in proportion with the game model.
Not sure if you have ever covered it but I will probably run across the episode if you have.
As for the art, I am pretty bad at scale and proportion, so I don't actually know if they are using the right reconstruction or not. But they definitely put it in the Nippur province, and there is a dur-kurigalzu province to the north, so I think the temple at Nippur was their intention, reguardless of the reconstruction they used.
But you can see Dur-Kurigalzu right next to it at 5:41? It's definitely in that region.
There's a petrified forest at Merrowe in modern day Sudan, about where the one in the game is, no clue if it's actually that old or not irl though.
Ah, I was only looking in Egypt, which is why I didn't find it, but of course you are right that it is probably the Sudanese site. Those are all about 30 million years old, so should have been visible in ancient times.
@@entirelyalive Nobody expects the Sudanese inquisition! :)
there is also a structure on naxos, that i was curious about but have not found a confirmation on what it represents
That is a good catch. It looks like a ruined city, and might be a reference to the cycladic civilization, which was old and possibly gone already by the bronze age collapse. The world was old already even for these first civilizations.
@@entirelyalive Yes there are multiple sites on Naxos. The in game placement is prob random in the context of the island, as up north the first thing i can recall is site of mycenaean tomb. I was thinking it might be the site at Korfari ton Amygdalion. Altough i remember from when researching Naxos a while back there are lesser known sites too, I've read about one in a paper
Korfi t'Aroniou without finding its location or any more references. There are also early bronze age settlements south of the island Spedos and Kalandos. Also hard to find information about. There is also a site at Stelida, oldest on island very interesting
@@entirelyalive But most likely Korfari ton Amygdalion, a town that was destroyed and abandoned before the bronze age. At the site you can still find stones from slings, evidence of an attack.
just to add, it might be ancient skarkos from nearby Ios. that they simply put on naxos
14:54 "Hwite"
would you ever do sth to do with the chinese bronze and iron age?
I have considered it, and I think it would be a fantastic project. However, the Oldest Stories podcast still has a long way to go, end date there is 579bce and we are only just at 850. Carrying China up to the Qin emperor would be great fun, but it is a long, long way away.
There's a channel called Serious Trivia who is currently covering Three Kingdoms history since TW3K's launch. After he's done with 3K he said that he will cover early Chinese history like the Shang and Zhou dynasties.
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 谢谢! i will check it out
@@camillebai5156 No problem. He has over 300 videos on 3K topics and is nearing the end, having just finished the conquest of Shu.
He also plays TW games on his channel too.
Just wondering why we dont see the Jews included. Didn't Merneptah fight Israel?
My guess is that it open too many possibilities CA doesn't want to deal with. Pretty much any representation would need to take an opinion on what they looked like at this point, which could potentially raise controversy. I would say that they should be in the Moses-Joshua era, but plenty would disagree, and then how do you handle news reports of your game showing religious figures battling? Not saying I agree with CA here, Joshua's conquests are as key a part of canaanite history here as the Philistine conquests, but I do understand why they did it.
@@entirelyalive Agree but from what I've read there does appear to be evidence of Yaweh worshipping Hebrews. Taken in tandem with the Israel evidence, is there any need to claim religious sources?
kinda sucks there were no canaanite wonders though.
A bit, but that is also realistic. The scale of civilization in Canaan was a tiny fraction of what the other areas had, and late bronze age was a nadir even from that low. The massive labor force required simply wasn't in the cards.
@@entirelyalive huh did not know that thanks for the heads up
Haha. Nice marketing for people of culture.
Khufu is 4th Dynasty lol