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He is a hare Krishna. They really DO care about cows! But i agree that its still unethical because we don't know whether the cow had consent or not. This is something that's really hard to explain to hare Krishnas. They think if the cows have a good life and aren't killed, it won't hurt them if you take their milk . Someone really needs to explain to them why ethical milk doesn't exist. I grew up with hare krishnas and i myself am somehow a hare Krishna, so i know alot about them. Can you also review a hare Krishna farm? I think its really important since they allways claim their farms are cruelty free.
Because Hinduism teaches the importance of dairy. Ahimsa comes from Hinduism and Hinduism promotes vegetarianism so please don't insult Hinduism or Hindu gurus. Millions of westerners have stopped eating meat because of these gurus.
Exactly. This fool has no idea about their philosophy and that their religion is practically a science. I am not one of them but I studied it extensively. I didn't just watch one video and decided I suddenly know everything about Hinduism ha ha. This man David is causing so many offenses to these lovely Krishna people and just spreading alot of hate within and against the vegan community.
@@JB.zero.zero.1 I don't believe I compared it to hard drugs. 😁 But speak for yourself, it took me a full month to give up cheese, whereas I stopped eating everything else immediately after wanting to. Some people take longer, some people less. The fact of the matter though, is that it is addictive and that's all I was saying. I think it would have taken me longer, had I not noticed the immense health benefits, as mentioned above. ☺
I went Vegan because Anthony Robbins wrote that it might help with ADHD... Hasn't worked. I'm still the same ar$ehole, but at least now I'm cutting the animals some slack ("When you can't do something smart, at least do something good." - Joss Whedon.) "Take a little trouble to find milk from protected cows"? ... I barely have the self discipline to brush my teeth every day. I fear that the good Swami Bhakti Vikasa may be dealing with a deck, even less full than my own. He reminds me of my ex's Dad (seriously). 😔
This video is another money maker for the vegan industry. Why do you care so much about a Person who has taken to the spiritual path and wants to protect cows? How do you know he uses artificial Insemination on his cows? You are just assuming that. A cow goes in heat every 21 days and calls for a bull to serve her. There are plenty of street bulls in India, who will come and take turns mating with the cows in heat, that you can hardly control the cows from not getting pregnant. Believe me, I live in India and am looking after a total of 15 cows and bulls. You don’t have to do anything, they get pregnant on their own (if you don’t keep a strong fence around the bulls). My two cows who have small calves have so much milk, that the calf gets diarrhoea if he would drink all of that milk. In the beginning his mother used to actually kick her calf, because her udder was so full, that it was very painful for her. We had to carefully train her to let her calf drink. Now mother and calf stay together all day and we still need to milk out her extra milk, so she will not develop mastitis. All that Vegan talking really is not making any sense to me. To keep mother cow and calf healthy, you need to milk out the extra milk. And for your information, my oldest cow is 21 years old. We take care of her just the same as taking care of the younger cows or bulls. Making money by making videos, criticising other cultures and beliefs is really not on. Go and clean up your own yard before criticising others.
I wish I had learned the phrase "spiritual bypassing" earlier in my existence. Many charlatans use spirituality as an excuse for their heinous actions.
In India it's not like usa's large 1000 to 5000 cow dairy. Mostly in villages of india in almost every household there is one or two dairy animals. They treat them as their child they don't force them to give 30 liters of milk or send it to slaughter house. In most cases we don't use artificial insemination so it's like natural cycle in wild animals. We don't separate the calves from their mother. In most indian states cow slaughter is banned and even in more than half of states have banned bull slaughter too. An average indian cow gives 5 liters of milk a day which is natural. We know about how to selective breed and got more milk but it is not good for their body structure. So in most cases we avoid it. So if you are not a dumb than explain how it is cruel for them. And don't think that i am protecting these gurus I am explaining how it works in most basic cases. I myself have felt the love from my cows.
I started attending Hari Krishna services because they had a giant vegan feast after their service... it wasn't long before they made a whole pitch about supporting this farmer and the milk that was being produced there. It was truly sad because I enjoyed the company of many people together eating a vegan meal, but after this nonsense, there really is no point in attending just another animal exploitation group. Great video as always! I did a cube of truth this weekend and recommended your videos to some activists that haven't heard of you yet. David Ramms > Earthling Ed! ha ha, not that it is a competition!
that hare krishna movement is just copy of Islamic Fakiri philosophy 😂😂... its religion market 😂😂😂 nothing else If you want be peace in mind everything you surrendered to true GOD.... Dont control your live too much... enjoy your life That GOD has not no image... He is not energy bcoz every energy come from GOD... ever Mr. Krishno was surrendered him to that true GOD.
@@imranchoubey2018 Wrong, jackass. The roots of the Hare Krishna movement predate Islam. All energy emanates from and is part and parcel with God(Krishna in one culture, Allah in another). Also, not to disrespect your religion or anyone else's, but religious dietary laws which permit eating meat but nitpick between different kinds of meat(i.e. allowing beef, poultry, lamb, and fish but not pork) are bullshit. All flesh consumption entails killing and exploitation and it's all unhealthy. When it comes to eating animals, it's ALL. OR. NOTHING.
It always amazes me that when a hobby is transformed into a business then it leads to a darker goal. Drinking milk was supposed to be a healthy thing however, once the Dairy Industry came in existence they changed everything and forced the cows to be impregnated over and over for benefitting themselves. In my village we drink milk only when a calf is born which happens like 2 or 3 times but not more then that.
Still I wonder WHY?! Grown up humans don't need to drink milk from another mammal, the idea repulses me, I hated the taste of cows milk or goat milk and never drank it, it is totally unnatural.
Regarding B12: It can definitely be obtained from kinds of Funghi, algae, Spirulina, Chlorella, Avocado, Broccoli, & probably in most plentiful amounts compared to the above list is Mankai Duckweed ( which contains more per 100g than the equivalent weight in cheese.
Not worse than Sadhguru. Sadhguru's point was that as long as you can keep them alive you can put them through misery. This guy at least is on board with the premise that one should not inflict suffering on sentient animals (but is somehow not acknowledging the suffering inherent in the cycle of forced pregnancy). Also, taking meat from a dead (and not killed) cow is morally unproblematic (provided the cow is truly free while living), though I agree that goes against 'cow is our mother.' So, overall, certainly not worse than Sadhguru.
The hard-core follower of sadhguru another guru man is cm in a state that banned beef consumption. Guess which state is the largest exporter of beef? The same. They sell them so someone else can slaughter them. So in their own words they don't kill their own mother's they sell them so they can kill them and give you money
@@sarath3827 It's his way of keeping himself fed, clothed & sheltered by keeping a spiritual Ponzi scheme running. A lot of these Westerners gave up everything & joined the Hare Krishnas (or other HIndu cults), & once they reach old age they have nothing to live off; no money, no home, no security, no pension. The cult is their only pension plan, even though only a few are paid for, so they've got to keep playing the role & recycling the nonsense. Everywhere he goes, he'll get free food & being India it'll be cooked with ghee & full of dairy, so that's the real reason why. It's convenient. No need to rock the boat. The funny thing is, he's become a sanyasi now (he'll have renounced sex a long time ago) and yet his diet depends on cows getting humped.
😇अहिंसा परमो धर्म 😇 Ahimsa paramo dharma (“non-harm is the HIGHEST religious principle” or “non-violence is the GREATEST law”). Therefore, only a strict VEGAN can claim to be an adherent of the eternal religion (sanātana dharma).🌱
Hello David, Greetings from Germany. I have been watching your videos since the beginning of this year. Please let me begin by appreciating you and thanking you for the great work that you have been doing for the welfare of our voiceless co-inhabitants of the planet. I can understand western people falling for ' Krishna organisatons' because some of them might be interested in the philosophy taught by them, which, unfortunately, has been doctored and twisted to suit western audiences. But what truly bothers me is that Indians follow such organisations and stray far away from the non-dualistic truth of universal oneness taught in the Upanishads, the highest stage of Vedas. All Indian scriptures are deep metaphors, which most uninformed people take in the literal sense and hang on to stories such as 'Krishna loved bovine milk, butter, etc.' It's such a pity that many Indians wouldn't be willing to invest about three to four hours to read and understand the Srimad Bhagavad Gita but would love to listen to all the drivel preached by certain multi million dollar international organisations. There is another video with such a 'monk-like' person selling ' ahimsa' (non-violent) 'veggie-vegan' milk! Now, what the hell is ' veggie-vegan'! It's something like 'non-violent murder'! Since your cause also is to put sense into people's heads and help them go VEGAN, I take the liberty to put the link to my post "The ‘Veggie vegan’ twaddle" on that bizarre concept of ' veggie-vegan' here. tavamithramsarvada.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/the-veggie-vegan-twaddle/ You might alsso want to comment on the video of that ' veggie-vegan' ' monk' Thanks again and I wish you all the very best in all your awesome endeavours. From an animal loving, healthy and happy 100% vegan.
Typical videos of vrindavan are shared of cows roped or running away and everyone praises and loves them as they think having cows is amazing because of photos and pictures of Krishna with cows. They seem unconcerned about breeding forceably or insemination or the way its done..and although they say they take milk from happy cows whose babies are not killed generally the lie, they buy from regular milk suppliers, sweets and curd from shops not knowing which cow it's from. Pregnant cow they think is OK, they don't understand consent in impregnation or sexual process..they think its female Goddess who are supposed to give birth and work for family. They have no laws against marital rape in India. So much for feminine Goddess worship.
"I do not take a B12 supplement became of chemistry." - Yes chemistry is so scary. Except when when you're using soap, deodorant, baking powder, medicine, glue, plastic ... You are using soap, aren't you?
Vegans are good people but *not enlightened.* It's true that with every cup of milk the cow and calf suffer terribly.... *But it's also true* that with every cup of milk offered by devotees to Krishna the bad karma of the cows and the butchers is reduced - *agnata sukriti*. If such milk product offerings predominate the world, butchers will become saints and Earth will be like Heaven again. *Hare Krishna!*
making him the man we now know as..... MILK MAN!!! absolutely brilliant 😂 An extremely shit superhero, exploiting innocent beings instead of fighting for them. But this is freaking hilarious!!
I don't know why this youtuber is insulting any human being personally , just to do propaganda. Why are people even not realising that this vegan is toxic and he is literally making food into a religion. If he wants to spread his veganism , why he is personally attacking anybody ! This is so cringe to react on somebody's belief.
@@ponnamy it is so childish. U can criticise but I think criticising on RUclips is so childish I hope U will get this. If u want to spread veganism , spread it , but it doesnt make sense that to spread it, u will make ur whole channel to expose other and criticise the other. This is so childish u r making food into a religion. People criticising each other for food choices. I hope one day u all will get what I am saying . This hindu could be a great human being but u are judged , criticising and hating and making a judgement on him and u will not see him ever without prejudice. Bcoz for u now food is the religion. This is why I don't believe to spread atheism u hv to hate a theist on internet To spread veganism. Attack anyone personally , this is so childish
Veganism and spirituality are a very natural pair. Spirit is quick to enlighten people on the futility of engaging with needless violence and harm towards others and even most religions are quick to acknowledge the fact that harming others does not align with the interest of our highest selves. This is why it blows my mind that I see such little veganism among spiritual circles. It's absurd how many spiritual people get caught up in their egos around this topic to the point of deluding and perverting spiritual messages just to justify violently abusing others in exchange for temporary pleasure.
Great video again! And I wonder what happens to the male calves of these very special cows at this place? Your videos exposing fake spiritual leaders are the best. Many people can admit they are hurting animals by their actions... but the "spiritually enlightended" make it seem that they are doing something GOOD by eating milk and meat "respecting the animal that is milked / killed" etc.
The rat milk is for pups, The cat milk is for kittens, The dog milk is for puppies, The cow milk is for calves, NOT for humans. A simple logic! Why it is so hard to understand?
Many things you say are not true. There are cows on a farm near here that give milk six years after they have given birth to a calf. There is no demand for milk here and it has to be poured out every day. Yet the cow has to be milked and requires milking. Sometimes the milk is processed, but most is simply thrown away because there is no license to sell it. I don't have anything to do with the cult of the white guru, but I do know that the cows in the video are from a farm where they have been cared for their entire lives. Even if they don't give milk, they continue to be cared for, not sold to slaughter. There are couple of such farms in my country where cows are cared for even if they do not give milk.
Unfortunately, a vegan diet and goo character are not necessary characteristics of "enlightened" people. They typically are, but they're not a given. Enlightenment only means understanding what is fundamentally true about reality -- it does not imply kindness, decency, veganism or any such thing. Think of it this way: the idea of gravity seems fundamental to our world (I mean, it would be super hard to argue against it on an experiential basis) but knowledge of this does not preclude dishonesty or cruelty. Enlightenment is similar in that sense. One must not make the mistake of equating "enlightenment" with a socially desirable character although "enlightened" people, as a general rule, tend to avoid unpleasant behaviour as best they can.
The real reason they won't go vegan is that they are milking the Hindu community too (for donations) by putting on a holy man act. Temples are businesses. Prabhupada, like the Maharishi, was just one of the first to see the potential of expanding business to the West & providing home-from-home "Hindu Lite" services for the Desi community. If they said no to dairy, which they should do due to how milk is produced in the West, they would just lose most of their income. The overseas Hindus would just go to a different temple where they would get the sweet, milky foods they are sentimentally addicted to. Part of their thing is to keep alive a historical way of life. They claim it is a "vedic", or 5,000 year old, way of life but really it is just an indealized 600 year old way of life dating back to when the revivalist movement was started by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (C15th). A bit like what the Hassidic Jews are to Judaism. The question does, however, raise issues for vegans & veganism as to how to apply vegan principles to people still living as they did 500 or 600 years ago, which many of the poor in India (& elsewhere) basically still are doing. I'm not condoning the exploitation of cattle for either food or labor but I do think we have to work out & propose transitional or sustainable models for them just as, say, Miyoko's Creamery is doing in the USA. Low tech or artisanal B12 & D production would be one part of it, e.g. bacterial fermentation or algae-type production. At present, given how tied to rural lifestyles buffalos and cattle are, it's kind of do or die for them. The bigger problem being the national dependency on such farmers for food (ie you can't just tell them to "get another job", because their nations depend on the plant foods they produce).
You are right Please read the following 1) i think if you ask people , they will say lord krishna use to drink milk why can't we ... but the thing we humans don't understand that he is lord krishna , he is god himself ... he lifted a mountain on his little finger , can we do that ... i don't think so ... when krishna used to go anywhere cows would follow him cows were in love with him . 2) at ancient times ( even at the time of lord krishna ) cow taken care of really good , i don't think at that time there was artifitial insemenation , and population of humans were also low , and some rules were also followed like taking the milk after baby cow is full.... but in present time cows are not taken care of It has become a business . And also as we grow old we become lactose intolerent...
This is kalyug and lord Krishna himself said that all these things will happen and Humans and Animals will suffer. We just need to wait for Kalki Avatar to restore Dharma again ❤
Sorry david, but you disappointed me this time. For the cows, using brushes ward off parasitic outbreaks, scratch itches and remove dead skin. Grooming helps many species - including cows - cope with stress. Also, there is no forced copulation in cattles like cows. Mating only happens when a cow is in heat. The cows which are shown in video are from India, and that too from a 'Gaushala'. These were the street cows that were thrown by their owners. Many of helpless street cows are captured by any local butcher if they are in open. But there are 'Gashalas' which rescue and provide shelter to such cows. And it's not like America here...,in such Gaushalas the calf is first fed with the sufficient milk required, and after this only if there is any milk left that's taken out for use. And btw , the monk who you are targeting comes from a organization which made lakhs of hardcore meat flakes to leave meat permanently. Not only meat but also made people free from bad habits of drug addiction, illicit sex, gambling etc.. and is doing this today too. It has distributed food to over 8 billion needy people and distributes millions of needy now as well. Even during COVID pandemic as well, millions of plates of food were distributed, and facilities like hospitals were provided, and all this free of cost. Even in Russia Ukraine war, that organisation is providing food and other relief to people. It provide food and other relief during natural disasters, crises, and to people facing hunger and poverty.
not worse than sadhguru he is suggesting a way to protect cows because in india there are gausala - gausala is a place where cows are kept just like old age homes as much as i know but sadhguru was very arrogant and he seems to be making fun of veganism but this guy really did understand that cruelty are happening thats why vegans are here
I don’t necessarily agree with everything the Swami says, but he comes over as a much happier and nicer person than Mr Ramms, who seems to be very uptight and judgemental.
This is the hidden secret of -Sadhguru- Jaggi Vasudev’s life. Jaggi Vasudev had an affair then murdered his wife then burnt her body. His father-in-law lodged a police report. (He claims that his wife had gained enlightenment and it was her wish to leave her body. It is obvious in the Indian Spiritual Tradition that you never burn an Enlightened person’s body. You entomb it. But knowing the conniving person that he is. He will come up with an alternative explanation like there are many versions of enlightenment and that it is acceptable to burn the body in some versions of enlightenment which most Indian familiar with authentic Indian Spiritual Traditions will know is bullshit.) Most people think in two ways either a Guru is the real deal or a fraud. However other than in terms of money a fraud is harmless. This man is of the third type, an malevolent Spiritual master he masks his real bad energy and powers with a facade of positive energy and powers. My guess is he put his wife under a trance either true hypnosis and/or occult energies to make her a willing participant of murder. Jaggi Vasudev then fled to the US and then formulated a plan. He started planting trees gained a Guinness record then gained the attention of the UN. This gave him access to the President of India, Modi. He made use of this access to create and strengthen his relationship with Modi. The police case and report magically went away and people stopped focusing on it. After this he was able to go back to India, Tamilnadu, and have free reign to do whatever he now wants.
It's not like how you think. They are not factory cows.These cow shown are road side cows mainly ,who are taken care of in gau shaalas. Also, even when they stops giving milk , they are still taken care of, unlike you said. Cow has special status in Hinduism. And also , saying that that cow milk is beneficial is not a lie, those are A2 milk giving cows. And btw, thse are the people who made(and are making) many many people to give up meat eating.
Dairy is highly inflammatory whether it's organic or non organic. Speaking for my own personal experience. The day I ditch dairy, my inflammation never came back (been three years).
@@amla6517 cancer is caused by a carcinogen or a mutant rRNA which causes the Telomerase sequence to last long , cow milk is not a carcinogen 😂. It have proteins like alpha 2 , which help to even cure various ulcers and gastric cancer . If u eat plastic food and drink milk the same time then u have high risk of breast cancer and prostrate cancer. I think if i compare Cancer causing list non veg vs milk , then i am gonna smash ur concept . Every thing is not goof for everyone , but still milk is the best food , having almost complete diet.
You are ignorant of different cultures and traditions. Millions of people have stopped eating meat because of the teachings of these gurus but you are being rude and disrespectful.
9:52.. I've been to such gaushalas.. and their life there is horrible.. they do get a shelter but condition is not good.. they don't even get fresh water to drink..no medical care ... And why is he acting like India is some divine land where there's no violence... I've seen many people i absolutely hate and some i adore (like peepal farm and there's these south Indian activist..i can't remember his name though ..probably arvind or something) .... This makes me really mad at him.. and in that sense he's nothing less than the original "sad guru".. infact he's way more manipulating than that arrogant guru..
This is insane !!! People commenting here are not commenting out of their concern but just hatred towards 2 persons who are successful than them🤣. David Ramms QUIT QUESTIONING INDIA and it's culture look at your own disgusting .
These gurus appreciate dairy products because they can't turn vegan themselves. Kinda silly how these people are sensational. People are blind. Sadguru killed his wife. Most of the people don't even know about jaggi's past and some people who do know, choose to ignore it just because jaggy be talking big shit. Sadguru is fucking manipulative. He seem so perfect and can go to any extent to cover his past. For example he killed his wife and told the police that she took mahasamadhi, now whenever people ask about her to sadguru, he be saying how much he loved her and we things go to far he closes the topic by saying things like "we should not talk about dead people" wtf?? It's all available on youtube. You all can look it up. I hope one day he gets exposed.
brother you said " you won't be looking after her if she doesnt give milk " thats so not true .. you have no idea how a cow is kept in india ..in rural india every house has one .. we too had one ..it was adopted .. if they die we shave our heads like we do for relatives ..so please dont talk nonsense without knowing stuff.. and best of luck for your mission .. great service you are doing to animalkind
Pre-industrial agriculture means breeding cows so that you have bulls to work the land. The idea isn't to breed cows just for milk, but for working bulls. The Swami neglected to explain this. Modern food production (including vegan foods) depends on petrol powered machines. Machine-based agriculture is hardcore exploitation and destruction of the earth, and absolutely unsustainable as it depends on non-renewable resources like oil. Vegans never consider the environmental consequences of industry and machines when analyzing their own food. A milk-drinker that uses oxen to till his fields is treading far lighter on the animals and the earth compared to a modern city dwelling vegan that depends on industrial agriculture and modes of transport.
Here from Jidion, just wanted to say I am not a vegan, but I am a huge animal lover and would literally save a fly if I saw it injured lol. I am not vegan because I feel like meat in my diet is too valuable to give up for a cause that I think has made little headway. If going vegan truly made a huge difference I would 100% do it, but the sheer amount of people that eat meat, it seems like one person going vegan is a drop in a bucket. All love from the US!
A thousand drops make an ocean mate! You would be making a HUGE difference, you wouldn’t be funding all the horrors that animals go through. You can get nutrition from plant-based foods, both processed and healthy whole foods depending on what you like. This is a free vegan starter pack to help people who care about animals live a better life for them: www.challenge22.com , check it out
Bro going vegan makes a huge difference. You set an example and can influence people close to you to do the same. Trust me dude it's not as hard as you think it is and you'll feel much better for having done it. Watch Dominion if you're on the fence.
The TRUTH about ISKCon: Some of the following four points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to ISKCon. Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. A. C. De, and NOT the name that he is called by the ultra-fundamentalist fanatics who follow him, "Śrila Prabhupada", for reasons which will become obvious when reading the following. 1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood ("Brahmana" class), although admittedly, some kings (such as Lord Śri Krishna, to give a perfect example) have acted temporarily as gurus. However, a worker or business owner is not to assume the role of a spiritual teacher. Mr. De was a member of the working-class, since his adult life was devoted to operating a pharmacy. According to the Supreme God (whom you call "Lord Krishna"), workers are not to become renounced monks at any stage of their lives (what you call "sannyasa"). Priests ALONE should enter this final stage (“aśrama”), which ought to be obvious to any intelligent person. 2. Mr. De has repeatedly stated in public (search RUclips for some of his "sermons") that ISKCon's main purpose was cow-protection. So ISKCon is primarily a cow protection society, and by "protection", they mean to literally STEAL their milk, which brings me to the topic of proper diet: Food in the mode of purity promotes good physical and mental health. Such foods include (above all) fruits, vegetables, nuts, pulses, grains, roots, flowers, seeds, herbs and of course purified water (or milk, in the case of infants). Milk is intended solely for consumption by infants of the same species. Cow’s milk is for baby cows, not adult humans. The logic is overwhelming, but unfortunately, not all persons are capable of reaching such a base level of logic to understand that it is unnatural for a human to suckle on the teats of a cow or goat. 3. Although ISKCon officially teaches Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's doctrine of panentheism ("acintya bedābeda tatva"), the simultaneous and inconceivable oneness but differentiation between God and God's "creation", in practice, its founder and all members since the foundation, are very much dualistic, failing to understand the simple truth that there is but ONE existence, consciousness and bliss ("sat chit ananda", "aham brahmasmi", “ayam ātmā brahma”, "so'ham", "tat tvam asi"). Not only that, but most ISKCon devotees will become visibly (or even audibly) hostile upon hearing a self-realized person declaring himself as “Brahman”. So much for following Vedanta! 4. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. De was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher". Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. De, he ABSOLUTELY must seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. De, or any of the current ISKCon "sannyasins". If you can see the obvious truth in my words, you are welcome to email: SpiritualPsychotherapyServices@gmail.com for a copy of "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity", which are the most ACCURATE spiritual precepts in the history of the planet. Otherwise, search online for lectures by such GENUINE masters as Swami Sarvapriyananda, Professor Alan Watts, and Avatar Adi Da Samraj. Also, you are welcome to add me to your Facebook friends list if you like my profile and Timeline. 😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
So they tie them up and bring in the bull instead? Also this guy promotes milk from gaushalas as well as average dairy farms where they're definitely using artificial insemination.
@@davidramms I am a vegan myself for more than 2 years. I have closely observed the Hare Krishna lifestyle since my childhood. What I can say about them is that they don't artificially inseminate cows like other mid-size dairy industries do in India. They don't sell cows once they stop producing milk. They allow them to live their natural life span and do take care of them in their premises of the temple. Cow dung and urine are used as manure in organic farming in Hare Krishna's garden. They give one-third milk to the baby calf and two-thirds milk is consumed by them. And another point is they don't use leather which you mentioned in starting. Leather is prohibited in Hare Krishna's temple. The amount of milk produced in this way is very little which is mainly used as curd/buttermilk/ghee/panner in Hare Krishna's kitchen and restaurants (known as Govinda). The point is that India can't produce milk in this way for 1.35 billion people as it will require 4-5 billion cows. So the ultimate goal should be to go vegan. Peace!!
His logic is still a bit warped but definitely better than the rest of the humanity minus vegans, he is halfway there after some encouragement instead of insults he may become a vegan.
you're so against Sadhguru 😂 I like Sadhguru tho ❤️. But I'm still not offended by anything you say because all you want is compassion for animals ❤️. I hope you can see Sadhguru for his other aspects too 😂. I hope you two meet and have a conversation .
this is the first time I heard about using milk as a psychedelic 😂 and you’re right about spiritual white people dressing as hindus, it looks weird and inappropriate
I used to be on the spirituality train. Until I went vegan, and realized the hypocrisy of saying you practice ahimsa, and then go eat cheese, and be closed off to the vegan message. Now I’m an atheist too. I love this series of calling out bs gurus. Thank you!
I’ve started from watching your video about Sadhguru and 🥛. This is fourth video now and you look more positive and less annoying. This way you probably can do more good for animals 😉
He has no knowledge of what different groups are doing. No drinking milk is good for all of us. It doesn't harm animals to give milk, even humans nurse their young with milk. Watch Sadhguru videos where this guy says he appologizes to Sadhguru for his ignornace & disrespect. Cows are working for their own salvation as we all are. Study in reincarnation.
In ancient time in India we use to take care of cows and only take milk when they are pregnant without forcing no forced pregnant, but now it have become industry that’s why I’m vegan. We call cow mother because we use to drink milk
Congratulations on being vegan however, in truth, I think that's just Hindu mythology & still fails vegan ethics. A truly natural cow, e.g. like a wild buffalo, wouldn't let a human anywhere near her or her udders. If cows would, then they had already been captured, punished, tied down, killed & selectively bred etc etc in the process of domestication. Domestication isn't vegan. In ancient times, the slaughter of cattle, e.g. for offerings, was also common. Presumably of all the male ones in order to keep a balance of the sexes to suit humans, like 1 bull for 20 cows. There also arises the problem of consent. The cow cannot consent in the way a human mother can. She is restrained & it is taken.
These vegans will still attack you even if you only consume milk from cows that are treated like they were in ancient India. Vegans mock us for calling cows our mother. That's why I cannot support veganism or vegans in any way.
@@billyseaborn612 Being vegan is the only way to follow Ahimsa as far as possible. It is the natural extension of that Hindu belief. Not breeding cows would reduce costs for society, & losses for farmers. Even road deaths & accidents. Normally in the West, we don't leave our mothers tied up by a rope around her neck in a shed all day, standing in her own crap & pulling her breasts twice a day, then abandon her on the streets to forage on garbage & consume plastics & wires*. Unlike Indian men, we stop breast feeding around 6 to 9 months old. We don't mock you for "calling cows your mother", we critize anyone exploiting, & abusing them. And breast feeding from a different species. Cows milk is for cow children. It's a shame that the status of human females in India wasn't as high as you claim ... dishonestly ... your cattle have. It's a euphemism (व्यंजना), Billy. A cover up for nasty, exploitative behavior. * In one study 95% of stray cattle had gastrointestinal disorders following ingestion of plastic bags and other foreign bodies. Gaushalas are used as breeding centers allowing the indiscriminate breeding of cows, which causes overcrowding, & for milk sales, leading to the separation of calves from their mothers & other welfare concerns.
I offer meat to Kali before eating it. When I swear off meat, I'll offer milk, cheese, and butter to Krishna before partaking. Guess which finger I'm holding up, ramms? Nope, not my thumb. Guess again.
kill everything eat everything than after 100 years what will remain in this world u and ur philosophy and ur logic at that time u start eating mankind , understand this if u protect nature and every life in this world our next generation can live happily. we r mortal do something gud in ur life n spread love instead of hate
It's okay bro , we know your insecurity😂 , you're not getting to drink milk cuz you u don't have enough money to buy it , therefore u are envious of us😂
I can't stop watching this part. I'm dying. Hahahahahah. "He was just an ordinary man until one day, he drank 10 litres of cow's milk, in ONE GO." "...one go!"
Is his nonsense worse than Sadhguru's? ⬇
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He is a hare Krishna. They really DO care about cows! But i agree that its still unethical because we don't know whether the cow had consent or not. This is something that's really hard to explain to hare Krishnas. They think if the cows have a good life and aren't killed, it won't hurt them if you take their milk . Someone really needs to explain to them why ethical milk doesn't exist. I grew up with hare krishnas and i myself am somehow a hare Krishna, so i know alot about them. Can you also review a hare Krishna farm? I think its really important since they allways claim their farms are cruelty free.
Well, it goes in the same line of wanting to justify something that most people will not even debate
You are nonsense, bruv
Examine your own nonsense, ramms.
@@9-nine-ix528 how is he telling nonsense?
Because Hinduism teaches the importance of dairy. Ahimsa comes from Hinduism and Hinduism promotes vegetarianism so please don't insult Hinduism or Hindu gurus. Millions of westerners have stopped eating meat because of these gurus.
Exactly. This fool has no idea about their philosophy and that their religion is practically a science. I am not one of them but I studied it extensively. I didn't just watch one video and decided I suddenly know everything about Hinduism ha ha. This man David is causing so many offenses to these lovely Krishna people and just spreading alot of hate within and against the vegan community.
@@thriveyoga1734 who gives a shit, hinduism is ancient pseudoscience.
@@shryfee7030 shut your dumb ass no one asked you
Hinduism most of good things rent from persia 😂😂 arab 😂😂 europe
@@imranchoubey2018 it's most probably the other way around you uneducated twat.
In traditional village in India cows are treated as mother wether they give milk or not
What is it with humans and Cow's milk.
Bizarre - the attachment.
Giving up milk is so easy.
It's the casein, literally so addictive 🥛 🧀
@@misty_oar
Yeah, probably.
I never had issues myself though.
I just made me mind up and stopped.
I think compared to hard drugs, it's not an issue.
@@JB.zero.zero.1 Dairy was easy as hell to give up. Maybe it had to do with the fact that my digestion felt so much better soon after but Ayee 😂
@@JB.zero.zero.1 I don't believe I compared it to hard drugs. 😁 But speak for yourself, it took me a full month to give up cheese, whereas I stopped eating everything else immediately after wanting to. Some people take longer, some people less. The fact of the matter though, is that it is addictive and that's all I was saying. I think it would have taken me longer, had I not noticed the immense health benefits, as mentioned above. ☺
Not it’s not easy
I'm a Hindu and I understand you but it's not as simple as it looks.
I went Vegan because Anthony Robbins wrote that it might help with ADHD...
Hasn't worked.
I'm still the same ar$ehole, but at least now I'm cutting the animals some slack ("When you can't do something smart, at least do something good." - Joss Whedon.)
"Take a little trouble to find milk from protected cows"?
... I barely have the self discipline to brush my teeth every day.
I fear that the good Swami Bhakti Vikasa may be dealing with a deck, even less full than my own.
He reminds me of my ex's Dad (seriously).
😔
This video is another money maker for the vegan industry. Why do you care so much about a Person who has taken to the spiritual path and wants to protect cows? How do you know he uses artificial Insemination on his cows? You are just assuming that. A cow goes in heat every 21 days and calls for a bull to serve her. There are plenty of street bulls in India, who will come and take turns mating with the cows in heat, that you can hardly control the cows from not getting pregnant. Believe me, I live in India and am looking after a total of 15 cows and bulls. You don’t have to do anything, they get pregnant on their own (if you don’t keep a strong fence around the bulls). My two cows who have small calves have so much milk, that the calf gets diarrhoea if he would drink all of that milk. In the beginning his mother used to actually kick her calf, because her udder was so full, that it was very painful for her. We had to carefully train her to let her calf drink. Now mother and calf stay together all day and we still need to milk out her extra milk, so she will not develop mastitis. All that Vegan talking really is not making any sense to me. To keep mother cow and calf healthy, you need to milk out the extra milk. And for your information, my oldest cow is 21 years old. We take care of her just the same as taking care of the younger cows or bulls. Making money by making videos, criticising other cultures and beliefs is really not on. Go and clean up your own yard before criticising others.
I wish I had learned the phrase "spiritual bypassing" earlier in my existence. Many charlatans use spirituality as an excuse for their heinous actions.
Hey are You jew?? but be careful about lol krishna movement😂😂
In India it's not like usa's large 1000 to 5000 cow dairy. Mostly in villages of india in almost every household there is one or two dairy animals. They treat them as their child they don't force them to give 30 liters of milk or send it to slaughter house. In most cases we don't use artificial insemination so it's like natural cycle in wild animals. We don't separate the calves from their mother. In most indian states cow slaughter is banned and even in more than half of states have banned bull slaughter too. An average indian cow gives 5 liters of milk a day which is natural. We know about how to selective breed and got more milk but it is not good for their body structure. So in most cases we avoid it. So if you are not a dumb than explain how it is cruel for them. And don't think that i am protecting these gurus I am explaining how it works in most basic cases. I myself have felt the love from my cows.
These vegans are just 🤓
We Hindus are the only religious people who actually respect all living beings but they still have a problem with us
I started attending Hari Krishna services because they had a giant vegan feast after their service... it wasn't long before they made a whole pitch about supporting this farmer and the milk that was being produced there. It was truly sad because I enjoyed the company of many people together eating a vegan meal, but after this nonsense, there really is no point in attending just another animal exploitation group.
Great video as always! I did a cube of truth this weekend and recommended your videos to some activists that haven't heard of you yet. David Ramms > Earthling Ed! ha ha, not that it is a competition!
that hare krishna movement is just copy of Islamic Fakiri philosophy 😂😂... its religion market 😂😂😂 nothing else If you want be peace in mind everything you surrendered to true GOD.... Dont control your live too much... enjoy your life
That GOD has not no image... He is not energy bcoz every energy come from GOD... ever Mr. Krishno was surrendered him to that true GOD.
@@imranchoubey2018 Wrong, jackass. The roots of the Hare Krishna movement predate Islam. All energy emanates from and is part and parcel with God(Krishna in one culture, Allah in another).
Also, not to disrespect your religion or anyone else's, but religious dietary laws which permit eating meat but nitpick between different kinds of meat(i.e. allowing beef, poultry, lamb, and fish but not pork) are bullshit. All flesh consumption entails killing and exploitation and it's all unhealthy. When it comes to eating animals, it's ALL. OR. NOTHING.
@@imranchoubey2018 dont worry 72 hurs.
@@imranchoubey2018 yo peaceful community
It always amazes me that when a hobby is transformed into a business then it leads to a darker goal. Drinking milk was supposed to be a healthy thing however, once the Dairy Industry came in existence they changed everything and forced the cows to be impregnated over and over for benefitting themselves. In my village we drink milk only when a calf is born which happens like 2 or 3 times but not more then that.
Still I wonder WHY?! Grown up humans don't need to drink milk from another mammal, the idea repulses me, I hated the taste of cows milk or goat milk and never drank it, it is totally unnatural.
@@TangoMasterclass Well said! Thanks.
This "Guru" is even SADER than "The Sad One" (as I fondly refer to Jagadish Vasudeva). 😬
It's SADDER, nancy.
@@9-nine-ix528 Kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️
JAGGI
Regarding B12: It can definitely be obtained from kinds of Funghi, algae, Spirulina, Chlorella, Avocado, Broccoli, & probably in most plentiful amounts compared to the above list is Mankai Duckweed ( which contains more per 100g than the equivalent weight in cheese.
I had such a good laugh with the Milk Man scene! 🤣
Because you can never understand spirituality
@@vinayvishwakarma5584 and you are so enlightened that you do. Thank you for your kind remark.
Not worse than Sadhguru. Sadhguru's point was that as long as you can keep them alive you can put them through misery. This guy at least is on board with the premise that one should not inflict suffering on sentient animals (but is somehow not acknowledging the suffering inherent in the cycle of forced pregnancy). Also, taking meat from a dead (and not killed) cow is morally unproblematic (provided the cow is truly free while living), though I agree that goes against 'cow is our mother.'
So, overall, certainly not worse than Sadhguru.
Good comment! Also this guy has nowhere near the same level of arrogance, that’s a huge difference between them
@@davidramms Good observation. The guy didn't seem arrogant at all.
The hard-core follower of sadhguru another guru man is cm in a state that banned beef consumption. Guess which state is the largest exporter of beef? The same. They sell them so someone else can slaughter them. So in their own words they don't kill their own mother's they sell them so they can kill them and give you money
ISKCON guys simply follow everything thier founder Prabhupada says word by word.
@@sarath3827 It's his way of keeping himself fed, clothed & sheltered by keeping a spiritual Ponzi scheme running. A lot of these Westerners gave up everything & joined the Hare Krishnas (or other HIndu cults), & once they reach old age they have nothing to live off; no money, no home, no security, no pension. The cult is their only pension plan, even though only a few are paid for, so they've got to keep playing the role & recycling the nonsense.
Everywhere he goes, he'll get free food & being India it'll be cooked with ghee & full of dairy, so that's the real reason why. It's convenient. No need to rock the boat.
The funny thing is, he's become a sanyasi now (he'll have renounced sex a long time ago) and yet his diet depends on cows getting humped.
2022 - save soil
2023 - save air!
😇अहिंसा परमो धर्म 😇
Ahimsa paramo dharma
(“non-harm is the HIGHEST religious principle” or “non-violence is the GREATEST law”).
Therefore, only a strict VEGAN can claim to be an adherent of the eternal religion (sanātana dharma).🌱
2024?
Hello David, Greetings from Germany.
I have been watching your videos since the beginning of this year. Please let me begin by appreciating you and thanking you for the great work that you have been doing for the welfare of our voiceless co-inhabitants of the planet.
I can understand western people falling for ' Krishna organisatons' because some of them might be interested in the philosophy taught by them, which, unfortunately, has been doctored and twisted to suit western audiences. But what truly bothers me is that Indians follow such organisations and stray far away from the non-dualistic truth of universal oneness taught in the Upanishads, the highest stage of Vedas. All Indian scriptures are deep metaphors, which most uninformed people take in the literal sense and hang on to stories such as 'Krishna loved bovine milk, butter, etc.' It's such a pity that many Indians wouldn't be willing to invest about three to four hours to read and understand the Srimad Bhagavad Gita but would love to listen to all the drivel preached by certain multi million dollar international organisations. There is another video with such a 'monk-like' person selling ' ahimsa' (non-violent) 'veggie-vegan' milk! Now, what the hell is ' veggie-vegan'! It's something like 'non-violent murder'!
Since your cause also is to put sense into people's heads and help them go VEGAN, I take the liberty to put the link to my post "The ‘Veggie vegan’ twaddle" on that bizarre concept of ' veggie-vegan' here. tavamithramsarvada.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/the-veggie-vegan-twaddle/
You might alsso want to comment on the video of that ' veggie-vegan' ' monk'
Thanks again and I wish you all the very best in all your awesome endeavours.
From an animal loving, healthy and happy 100% vegan.
Bruh have u really read gita?
Typical videos of vrindavan are shared of cows roped or running away and everyone praises and loves them as they think having cows is amazing because of photos and pictures of Krishna with cows. They seem unconcerned about breeding forceably or insemination or the way its done..and although they say they take milk from happy cows whose babies are not killed generally the lie, they buy from regular milk suppliers, sweets and curd from shops not knowing which cow it's from. Pregnant cow they think is OK, they don't understand consent in impregnation or sexual process..they think its female Goddess who are supposed to give birth and work for family. They have no laws against marital rape in India. So much for feminine Goddess worship.
"I do not take a B12 supplement became of chemistry." - Yes chemistry is so scary. Except when when you're using soap, deodorant, baking powder, medicine, glue, plastic ...
You are using soap, aren't you?
It's a new excuse to add to the list, "Chemistry tho".
And please visit the ISKCON Goshala near you, you can see how happy the cows are and happy cows give more milk
Vegans are good people but *not enlightened.*
It's true that with every cup of milk the cow and calf suffer terribly....
*But it's also true* that with every cup of milk offered by devotees to Krishna the bad karma of the cows and the butchers is reduced - *agnata sukriti*.
If such milk product offerings predominate the world, butchers will become saints and Earth will be like Heaven again. *Hare Krishna!*
making him the man we now know as..... MILK MAN!!! absolutely brilliant 😂 An extremely shit superhero, exploiting innocent beings instead of fighting for them. But this is freaking hilarious!!
Enlightened cheeseflakes are worse than meatflakes sometimes
Why cant he dress like this just because he grew up in southern england?
I didn't say he can't
Holy shit I didn’t know voldermort became a guru after Harry defeated him in deathly hallows pt.2
I don't know why this youtuber is insulting any human being personally , just to do propaganda.
Why are people even not realising that this vegan is toxic and he is literally making food into a religion.
If he wants to spread his veganism , why he is personally attacking anybody ! This is so cringe to react on somebody's belief.
A reasonable criticism is NOT a personal attack. Grow up.
@@ponnamy it is so childish. U can criticise but I think criticising on RUclips is so childish
I hope U will get this.
If u want to spread veganism , spread it , but it doesnt make sense that to spread it, u will make ur whole channel to expose other and criticise the other.
This is so childish u r making food into a religion. People criticising each other for food choices.
I hope one day u all will get what I am saying .
This hindu could be a great human being but u are judged , criticising and hating and making a judgement on him and u will not see him ever without prejudice. Bcoz for u now food is the religion.
This is why I don't believe to spread atheism u hv to hate a theist on internet
To spread veganism. Attack anyone personally , this is so childish
Veganism and spirituality are a very natural pair. Spirit is quick to enlighten people on the futility of engaging with needless violence and harm towards others and even most religions are quick to acknowledge the fact that harming others does not align with the interest of our highest selves.
This is why it blows my mind that I see such little veganism among spiritual circles.
It's absurd how many spiritual people get caught up in their egos around this topic to the point of deluding and perverting spiritual messages just to justify violently abusing others in exchange for temporary pleasure.
There are many vegetarian Hindu spiritual gurus
Great video again! And I wonder what happens to the male calves of these very special cows at this place? Your videos exposing fake spiritual leaders are the best. Many people can admit they are hurting animals by their actions... but the "spiritually enlightended" make it seem that they are doing something GOOD by eating milk and meat "respecting the animal that is milked / killed" etc.
The rat milk is for pups,
The cat milk is for kittens,
The dog milk is for puppies,
The cow milk is for calves, NOT for humans.
A simple logic!
Why it is so hard to understand?
Rat's mother eats her children
Cat's mother eats her children
Dog's mother eats her children
Then why jail humans if they do so
At first (when I saw the clip from him talking to the camera at his house) I thought you edited Rutger Hauer's face to his body lol
Anyone else feeling sore from him constantly brushing the same spot? That poor cow!
Dude that's all I was thinking about this whole time 😨
Yeah, made it look totally fake & for the camera. Which kind of defines his level of spirituality, & empathy/experience with handling animals.
My side's hurting too
.....in fact, i was waiting to finally see the cow swing left 120° and throw a back-kick with her hind-right
Mee!
I never thought I'd agree with a vegan .
Read the essays of Chris Hedges, I'm sure you'll agree with a Vegan, more so.
Thanks for the comment mention David. Enjoy your work.
You can eat dairy, as long as you personally brush a cow.
*Spiritual WooWoo 🥩🤡 Warning!*
What's up with these man child breastfeeding gurus? They need to grow up already.
Whitewooguru 🤦
Many things you say are not true. There are cows on a farm near here that give milk six years after they have given birth to a calf. There is no demand for milk here and it has to be poured out every day. Yet the cow has to be milked and requires milking. Sometimes the milk is processed, but most is simply thrown away because there is no license to sell it.
I don't have anything to do with the cult of the white guru, but I do know that the cows in the video are from a farm where they have been cared for their entire lives. Even if they don't give milk, they continue to be cared for, not sold to slaughter. There are couple of such farms in my country where cows are cared for even if they do not give milk.
Unfortunately, a vegan diet and goo character are not necessary characteristics of "enlightened" people. They typically are, but they're not a given. Enlightenment only means understanding what is fundamentally true about reality -- it does not imply kindness, decency, veganism or any such thing. Think of it this way: the idea of gravity seems fundamental to our world (I mean, it would be super hard to argue against it on an experiential basis) but knowledge of this does not preclude dishonesty or cruelty. Enlightenment is similar in that sense. One must not make the mistake of equating "enlightenment" with a socially desirable character although "enlightened" people, as a general rule, tend to avoid unpleasant behaviour as best they can.
The real reason they won't go vegan is that they are milking the Hindu community too (for donations) by putting on a holy man act. Temples are businesses. Prabhupada, like the Maharishi, was just one of the first to see the potential of expanding business to the West & providing home-from-home "Hindu Lite" services for the Desi community. If they said no to dairy, which they should do due to how milk is produced in the West, they would just lose most of their income.
The overseas Hindus would just go to a different temple where they would get the sweet, milky foods they are sentimentally addicted to.
Part of their thing is to keep alive a historical way of life. They claim it is a "vedic", or 5,000 year old, way of life but really it is just an indealized 600 year old way of life dating back to when the revivalist movement was started by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (C15th). A bit like what the Hassidic Jews are to Judaism.
The question does, however, raise issues for vegans & veganism as to how to apply vegan principles to people still living as they did 500 or 600 years ago, which many of the poor in India (& elsewhere) basically still are doing.
I'm not condoning the exploitation of cattle for either food or labor but I do think we have to work out & propose transitional or sustainable models for them just as, say, Miyoko's Creamery is doing in the USA.
Low tech or artisanal B12 & D production would be one part of it, e.g. bacterial fermentation or algae-type production. At present, given how tied to rural lifestyles buffalos and cattle are, it's kind of do or die for them. The bigger problem being the national dependency on such farmers for food (ie you can't just tell them to "get another job", because their nations depend on the plant foods they produce).
the milk man segment is amazing
You'd be insulting Lord Krishna himself if he was here today. He drank a lot of milk and was the butter thief.
Not sure if this is pointed out here, but I don't think that is a cow that guy is brushing while giving his lecture. Its a bull/ox
You are right
Please read the following
1) i think if you ask people , they will say lord krishna use to drink milk why can't we ... but the thing we humans don't understand that he is lord krishna , he is god himself ... he lifted a mountain on his little finger , can we do that ... i don't think so ... when krishna used to go anywhere cows would follow him cows were in love with him .
2) at ancient times ( even at the time of lord krishna ) cow taken care of really good , i don't think at that time there was artifitial insemenation , and population of humans were also low , and some rules were also followed like taking the milk after baby cow is full.... but in present time cows are not taken care of
It has become a business .
And also as we grow old we become lactose intolerent...
This is kalyug and lord Krishna himself said that all these things will happen and Humans and Animals will suffer. We just need to wait for Kalki Avatar to restore Dharma again ❤
The way he scratching the cow with that hard brush Kar!Kar!Karrr! At the same spot for the entire video even i m getting hurt
Sorry david, but you disappointed me this time.
For the cows, using brushes ward off parasitic outbreaks, scratch itches and remove dead skin. Grooming helps many species - including cows - cope with stress.
Also, there is no forced copulation in cattles like cows. Mating only happens when a cow is in heat.
The cows which are shown in video are from India, and that too from a 'Gaushala'. These were the street cows that were thrown by their owners. Many of helpless street cows are captured by any local butcher if they are in open. But there are 'Gashalas' which rescue and provide shelter to such cows. And it's not like America here...,in such Gaushalas the calf is first fed with the sufficient milk required, and after this only if there is any milk left that's taken out for use.
And btw , the monk who you are targeting comes from a organization which made lakhs of hardcore meat flakes to leave meat permanently. Not only meat but also made people free from bad habits of drug addiction, illicit sex, gambling etc.. and is doing this today too. It has distributed food to over 8 billion needy people and distributes millions of needy now as well. Even during COVID pandemic as well, millions of plates of food were distributed, and facilities like hospitals were provided, and all this free of cost. Even in Russia Ukraine war, that organisation is providing food and other relief to people. It provide food and other relief during natural disasters, crises, and to people facing hunger and poverty.
not worse than sadhguru he is suggesting a way to protect cows because in india there are gausala - gausala is a place where cows are kept just like old age homes as much as i know
but sadhguru was very arrogant and he seems to be making fun of veganism but this guy really did understand that cruelty are happening thats why vegans are here
I don’t necessarily agree with everything the Swami says, but he comes over as a much happier and nicer person than Mr Ramms, who seems to be very uptight and judgemental.
This is the hidden secret of -Sadhguru- Jaggi Vasudev’s life. Jaggi Vasudev had an affair then murdered his wife then burnt her body. His father-in-law lodged a police report.
(He claims that his wife had gained enlightenment and it was her wish to leave her body. It is obvious in the Indian Spiritual Tradition that you never burn an Enlightened person’s body. You entomb it. But knowing the conniving person that he is. He will come up with an alternative explanation like there are many versions of enlightenment and that it is acceptable to burn the body in some versions of enlightenment which most Indian familiar with authentic Indian Spiritual Traditions will know is bullshit.) Most people think in two ways either a Guru is the real deal or a fraud. However other than in terms of money a fraud is harmless. This man is of the third type, an malevolent Spiritual master he masks his real bad energy and powers with a facade of positive energy and powers. My guess is he put his wife under a trance either true hypnosis and/or occult energies to make her a willing participant of murder.
Jaggi Vasudev then fled to the US and then formulated a plan. He started planting trees gained a Guinness record then gained the attention of the UN. This gave him access to the President of India, Modi. He made use of this access to create and strengthen his relationship with Modi. The police case and report magically went away and people stopped focusing on it. After this he was able to go back to India, Tamilnadu, and have free reign to do whatever he now wants.
And those Goshalas which were exposed were not ISKCONs
It's not like how you think. They are not factory cows.These cow shown are road side cows mainly ,who are taken care of in gau shaalas. Also, even when they stops giving milk , they are still taken care of, unlike you said. Cow has special status in Hinduism. And also , saying that that cow milk is beneficial is not a lie, those are A2 milk giving cows. And btw, thse are the people who made(and are making) many many people to give up meat eating.
Why don't you start worshipping cows? things would change in your country too. I am pretty sure.
I'm a Hindu but I don't think that way..
Dairy is highly inflammatory whether it's organic or non organic. Speaking for my own personal experience. The day I ditch dairy, my inflammation never came back (been three years).
Also consuming dairy is high risk for prostate cancer for man and breast cancer for woman.
😂. Go and get some help
@@natureloverindian7705 ???? What help?
@@natureloverindian7705 I think you should get help. What is so funny? Did I said anything funny?
@@amla6517 cancer is caused by a carcinogen or a mutant rRNA which causes the Telomerase sequence to last long , cow milk is not a carcinogen 😂. It have proteins like alpha 2 , which help to even cure various ulcers and gastric cancer . If u eat plastic food and drink milk the same time then u have high risk of breast cancer and prostrate cancer. I think if i compare Cancer causing list non veg vs milk , then i am gonna smash ur concept . Every thing is not goof for everyone , but still milk is the best food , having almost complete diet.
First time you said his name I heard "Back to Suomi", was like "WHAT??!" 🙈
I'd often wondered what happened to Wilfrid Brambell.
We take care of cows till the natural death of cows
You are ignorant of different cultures and traditions. Millions of people have stopped eating meat because of the teachings of these gurus but you are being rude and disrespectful.
True
No we are not promoting to take milk from diary we are telling to take milk from these ISKCON Goshalas
Hey you have misunderstood this video completely i suggest you to visit your nearest ISKCON centre and please have a discussion
9:52.. I've been to such gaushalas.. and their life there is horrible.. they do get a shelter but condition is not good.. they don't even get fresh water to drink..no medical care ...
And why is he acting like India is some divine land where there's no violence...
I've seen many people i absolutely hate and some i adore (like peepal farm and there's these south Indian activist..i can't remember his name though ..probably arvind or something) ....
This makes me really mad at him.. and in that sense he's nothing less than the original "sad guru".. infact he's way more manipulating than that arrogant guru..
The host is very hostile right off the bat...So it cancels his biased viewpoints.
This is insane !!! People commenting here are not commenting out of their concern but just hatred towards 2 persons who are successful than them🤣. David Ramms QUIT QUESTIONING INDIA and it's culture look at your own disgusting .
These gurus appreciate dairy products because they can't turn vegan themselves. Kinda silly how these people are sensational. People are blind. Sadguru killed his wife. Most of the people don't even know about jaggi's past and some people who do know, choose to ignore it just because jaggy be talking big shit. Sadguru is fucking manipulative. He seem so perfect and can go to any extent to cover his past. For example he killed his wife and told the police that she took mahasamadhi, now whenever people ask about her to sadguru, he be saying how much he loved her and we things go to far he closes the topic by saying things like "we should not talk about dead people" wtf?? It's all available on youtube. You all can look it up. I hope one day he gets exposed.
brother you said " you won't be looking after her if she doesnt give milk " thats so not true .. you have no idea how a cow is kept in india ..in rural india every house has one .. we too had one ..it was adopted .. if they die we shave our heads like we do for relatives ..so please dont talk nonsense without knowing stuff.. and best of luck for your mission .. great service you are doing to animalkind
last year i interviewed a isckon sanyasi and he also said exactly like him and even more wierd
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Pre-industrial agriculture means breeding cows so that you have bulls to work the land. The idea isn't to breed cows just for milk, but for working bulls. The Swami neglected to explain this. Modern food production (including vegan foods) depends on petrol powered machines. Machine-based agriculture is hardcore exploitation and destruction of the earth, and absolutely unsustainable as it depends on non-renewable resources like oil. Vegans never consider the environmental consequences of industry and machines when analyzing their own food. A milk-drinker that uses oxen to till his fields is treading far lighter on the animals and the earth compared to a modern city dwelling vegan that depends on industrial agriculture and modes of transport.
Sadhguru trained him well.🤣🤣
I told Luna my doggo to get a job! Just listened and then walked away! Lol!
Here from Jidion, just wanted to say I am not a vegan, but I am a huge animal lover and would literally save a fly if I saw it injured lol. I am not vegan because I feel like meat in my diet is too valuable to give up for a cause that I think has made little headway. If going vegan truly made a huge difference I would 100% do it, but the sheer amount of people that eat meat, it seems like one person going vegan is a drop in a bucket. All love from the US!
A thousand drops make an ocean mate! You would be making a HUGE difference, you wouldn’t be funding all the horrors that animals go through.
You can get nutrition from plant-based foods, both processed and healthy whole foods depending on what you like.
This is a free vegan starter pack to help people who care about animals live a better life for them: www.challenge22.com , check it out
Bro going vegan makes a huge difference. You set an example and can influence people close to you to do the same. Trust me dude it's not as hard as you think it is and you'll feel much better for having done it. Watch Dominion if you're on the fence.
@@davidramms thanks man I’ll def check it out👍
Hare Krishna people don't artificially inseminate cows.
The TRUTH about ISKCon:
Some of the following four points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to ISKCon.
Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. A. C. De, and NOT the name that he is called by the ultra-fundamentalist fanatics who follow him, "Śrila Prabhupada", for reasons which will become obvious when reading the following.
1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood ("Brahmana" class), although admittedly, some kings (such as Lord Śri Krishna, to give a perfect example) have acted temporarily as gurus.
However, a worker or business owner is not to assume the role of a spiritual teacher.
Mr. De was a member of the working-class, since his adult life was devoted to operating a pharmacy. According to the Supreme God (whom you call "Lord Krishna"), workers are not to become renounced monks at any stage of their lives (what you call "sannyasa"). Priests ALONE should enter this final stage (“aśrama”), which ought to be obvious to any intelligent person.
2. Mr. De has repeatedly stated in public (search RUclips for some of his "sermons") that ISKCon's main purpose was cow-protection. So ISKCon is primarily a cow protection society, and by "protection", they mean to literally STEAL their milk, which brings me to the topic of proper diet:
Food in the mode of purity promotes good physical and mental health. Such foods include (above all) fruits, vegetables, nuts, pulses, grains, roots, flowers, seeds, herbs and of course purified water (or milk, in the case of infants). Milk is intended solely for consumption by infants of the same species. Cow’s milk is for baby cows, not adult humans. The logic is overwhelming, but unfortunately, not all persons are capable of reaching such a base level of logic to understand that it is unnatural for a human to suckle on the teats of a cow or goat.
3. Although ISKCon officially teaches Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's doctrine of panentheism ("acintya bedābeda tatva"), the simultaneous and inconceivable oneness but differentiation between God and God's "creation", in practice, its founder and all members since the foundation, are very much dualistic, failing to understand the simple truth that there is but ONE existence, consciousness and bliss ("sat chit ananda", "aham brahmasmi", “ayam ātmā brahma”, "so'ham", "tat tvam asi").
Not only that, but most ISKCon devotees will become visibly (or even audibly) hostile upon hearing a self-realized person declaring himself as “Brahman”. So much for following Vedanta!
4. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. De was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher".
Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. De, he ABSOLUTELY must seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. De, or any of the current ISKCon "sannyasins".
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So they tie them up and bring in the bull instead?
Also this guy promotes milk from gaushalas as well as average dairy farms where they're definitely using artificial insemination.
@@davidramms I am a vegan myself for more than 2 years. I have closely observed the Hare Krishna lifestyle since my childhood. What I can say about them is that they don't artificially inseminate cows like other mid-size dairy industries do in India. They don't sell cows once they stop producing milk. They allow them to live their natural life span and do take care of them in their premises of the temple. Cow dung and urine are used as manure in organic farming in Hare Krishna's garden. They give one-third milk to the baby calf and two-thirds milk is consumed by them. And another point is they don't use leather which you mentioned in starting. Leather is prohibited in Hare Krishna's temple.
The amount of milk produced in this way is very little which is mainly used as curd/buttermilk/ghee/panner in Hare Krishna's kitchen and restaurants (known as Govinda). The point is that India can't produce milk in this way for 1.35 billion people as it will require 4-5 billion cows. So the ultimate goal should be to go vegan.
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"A student can never be greater than his teacher"
That depends on the teacher - I've known some really bad teachers.
@@jenilmunim9080 Why would they drink breast milk from another species? No one is separating us from our mother and stealing our mother's milk.
When you dont have any idea what you talking about but still have to push your propogenda
this guy gives me the creeps.
From a distance everything looks different, u have no absolutely no knowledge of other people culture and values
I am agree with you
Every hindu in the comments ? 😬
Nice video. Love and blessings.
His logic is still a bit warped but definitely better than the rest of the humanity minus vegans, he is halfway there after some encouragement instead of insults he may become a vegan.
you're so against Sadhguru 😂 I like Sadhguru tho ❤️. But I'm still not offended by anything you say because all you want is compassion for animals ❤️. I hope you can see Sadhguru for his other aspects too 😂. I hope you two meet and have a conversation .
You don't sell your mothers milk
Wow
I l8ved with Krsnas in london n they buy ghee from Indian shops🤙
Milk man made me cringe so much I could barely watch the video
But your arguments really makes the hypocrisy of these people clear as day very well done
this is the first time I heard about using milk as a psychedelic 😂
and you’re right about spiritual white people dressing as hindus, it looks weird and inappropriate
Hey whenever they naturally mate ISKCON takes milk
Sadguru is much worse the way he speaks about it but they both are bad.
1:41 it's disgusting how that abuser grooms his milk machine
Bro cows like being groomed and that scruber is soft
I used to be on the spirituality train. Until I went vegan, and realized the hypocrisy of saying you practice ahimsa, and then go eat cheese, and be closed off to the vegan message. Now I’m an atheist too. I love this series of calling out bs gurus. Thank you!
How is some spiritual people eating cheese refuting spirituality?
I’ve started from watching your video about Sadhguru and 🥛. This is fourth video now and you look more positive and less annoying. This way you probably can do more good for animals 😉
He has no knowledge of what different groups are doing. No drinking milk is good for all of us. It doesn't harm animals to give milk, even humans nurse their young with milk. Watch Sadhguru videos where this guy says he appologizes to Sadhguru for his ignornace & disrespect. Cows are working for their own salvation as we all are. Study in reincarnation.
In ancient time in India we use to take care of cows and only take milk when they are pregnant without forcing no forced pregnant, but now it have become industry that’s why I’m vegan. We call cow mother because we use to drink milk
Congratulations on being vegan however, in truth, I think that's just Hindu mythology & still fails vegan ethics. A truly natural cow, e.g. like a wild buffalo, wouldn't let a human anywhere near her or her udders. If cows would, then they had already been captured, punished, tied down, killed & selectively bred etc etc in the process of domestication.
Domestication isn't vegan.
In ancient times, the slaughter of cattle, e.g. for offerings, was also common. Presumably of all the male ones in order to keep a balance of the sexes to suit humans, like 1 bull for 20 cows.
There also arises the problem of consent. The cow cannot consent in the way a human mother can. She is restrained & it is taken.
These vegans will still attack you even if you only consume milk from cows that are treated like they were in ancient India. Vegans mock us for calling cows our mother. That's why I cannot support veganism or vegans in any way.
@@billyseaborn612 Being vegan is the only way to follow Ahimsa as far as possible. It is the natural extension of that Hindu belief. Not breeding cows would reduce costs for society, & losses for farmers. Even road deaths & accidents. Normally in the West, we don't leave our mothers tied up by a rope around her neck in a shed all day, standing in her own crap & pulling her breasts twice a day, then abandon her on the streets to forage on garbage & consume plastics & wires*.
Unlike Indian men, we stop breast feeding around 6 to 9 months old.
We don't mock you for "calling cows your mother", we critize anyone exploiting, & abusing them. And breast feeding from a different species.
Cows milk is for cow children.
It's a shame that the status of human females in India wasn't as high as you claim ... dishonestly ... your cattle have. It's a euphemism (व्यंजना), Billy. A cover up for nasty, exploitative behavior.
* In one study 95% of stray cattle had gastrointestinal disorders following ingestion of plastic bags and other foreign bodies.
Gaushalas are used as breeding centers allowing the indiscriminate breeding of cows, which causes overcrowding, & for milk sales, leading to the separation of calves from their mothers & other welfare concerns.
@@billyseaborn612 I have nothing to do with vegan’s what they think but I agree that milk comes from cruelty because of industrialization
@@jonahwhale9047 are you talking about Hinduism or veganism ?
He looks like a scammer ... ..just there to make a huge amount of money .
@david ramms you seem pretty agitated, try isha kriya and maybe youll become calmer lol
I offer meat to Kali before eating it. When I swear off meat, I'll offer milk, cheese, and butter to Krishna before partaking.
Guess which finger I'm holding up, ramms?
Nope, not my thumb. Guess again.
kill everything eat everything than after 100 years what will remain in this world u and ur philosophy and ur logic at that time u start eating mankind , understand this if u protect nature and every life in this world our next generation can live happily. we r mortal do something gud in ur life n spread love instead of hate
Lol good one Bud..
Getting less views, then pull in Sadguru.. easily done 👍
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It's okay bro , we know your insecurity😂 , you're not getting to drink milk cuz you u don't have enough money to buy it , therefore u are envious of us😂
Milk Man: 5:08 ... bwahahahahahah
I can't stop watching this part. I'm dying. Hahahahahah. "He was just an ordinary man until one day, he drank 10 litres of cow's milk, in ONE GO." "...one go!"