In Class with Carr, Lesson 186: “Can We Imagine a World Without Whiteness"?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
  • This was a question posed this week at the Moorland-Spingarn Research Center Second Annual International Black Writers Festival at Howard University. Dr. Carr and Karen wrestle with the question and deliver some poignant responses. There is also a tribute to Hollis Watkins, who made transition last week as well as a look at the life and work of Hattie McDaniel.
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  • @nasirasheartofgold
    @nasirasheartofgold 10 месяцев назад +17

    I just want to say thank you for these episodes. As a native of the Northwest, we did not learn about the many ancestors who contributed to our history. It is actually heartbreaking to know that there were so many inventors, teachers, creators, etc, that paved the way. I only know of the trauma that we as a people sustained, and although it angers me, I also would like to rejoice and celebrate those who made a mark in this world and brought forth their intellect. Keep doing what you're doing! ❤

  • @bobbywilsonfunfaithfamilymusic
    @bobbywilsonfunfaithfamilymusic 10 месяцев назад +12

    Dr. Carr, Professor Hunter, thanks for Ep.186! I appreciate the clip you shared of Hollis Watkins, "Stand up for right even if you are the only one standing up". Your perspective on the question was spot on, "making it plain" kudos.

  • @knarrative
    @knarrative  10 месяцев назад +6

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  • @kevinbaker4693
    @kevinbaker4693 10 месяцев назад +13

    Another one. These are such power infused discussions every Saturday. It's like waking up on Saturday morning to watch kung-fu movies back in the day. U 2 R BRILLIANT. THANK U 4 UR LIGHT. MY VISION BECOMES EVER MORE CLEAR AS I AM GRACED WITH UR COMBINED WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE. ❤

    • @knarrative
      @knarrative  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for listening!

    • @kevinbaker4693
      @kevinbaker4693 10 месяцев назад

      Sorry, I can't not listen and learn. Thank you.

  • @lisadokes2655
    @lisadokes2655 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you again Professor Hunter and Dr. Carr!!! This was another "food for thought" for me. I am DEFINITELY going to watch the Black Writers Conference. Please keep speaking, keep teaching, and KEEP FEEDING US (even though some people may have weak stomachs, LOL)!

  • @martyreed5701
    @martyreed5701 10 месяцев назад +7

    This conversation is excellent and so much needed!

  • @christopherharper9818
    @christopherharper9818 10 месяцев назад +4

    The conversations at Howard's MSRC (Moorland Spingarn Research Ctr) Black Writers Festival were intellectually stimulating. While not the answers to many questions, I do appreciate them as an entry point for the Knubian conversations which are, in my opinion, transcendent in nature and scope. Shout out to Dr Talton and his staff, and contributors such as Dr Carr and many others.

  • @CathyAbdullah-vh1vh
    @CathyAbdullah-vh1vh 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for bringing my uncle Hollis Watkins to light. He's always been the light of our lives.

  • @mharm1017
    @mharm1017 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ken Burns' plantation! Damn, Dr Carr! Enough fire upon Rome!

    • @purpleness64
      @purpleness64 10 месяцев назад +1

      He brings the smoke 😊

  • @karenl7786
    @karenl7786 10 месяцев назад +2

    It's gonna be hard..and slow. And there's the crux of it. ✊🏽

  • @sandraedwards4278
    @sandraedwards4278 10 месяцев назад +5

    Professor Hunter years ago while teaching for a community College, i had my students do their own eulogy for Speech. How they saw themselves in the future. I looked at writing and creativity. They expressed to me that it made them look at their futures seriously to really imagine what they can become, and what they can strive toward. The students loved the assignment! Even with your discussion today, what would it be like w/o WP!? Using the imagination is powerful thing, and like my students we can imagine a life beyond what is given by this system and see a life well lived w/o WP and Free to just Live a life imagined!!! Thank you and Dr. Carr🎉 Love it!

  • @williampowellii3382
    @williampowellii3382 10 месяцев назад

    Power Peace and Blessings to babbs Carr. Thank you for being,🙏🏿💪🏿💜

  • @masterGAWK9
    @masterGAWK9 10 месяцев назад +26

    Thank you for bringing Hollis Watkins Muhammad to the forefront.

  • @StrangeDeranged
    @StrangeDeranged 10 месяцев назад +2

    As Dr. Rashad Richey says " Iron sharpens Iron ". Love the work you BOTH do! 🇯🇲🇯🇲✊✊

  • @kmttaseti
    @kmttaseti 10 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you Prof. Hunter and Dr. Carr.

  • @williejohnson8928
    @williejohnson8928 10 месяцев назад +13

    Thank you all for another great show and I pray for many more ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️!!!!

  • @justmyopinion9883
    @justmyopinion9883 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for introducing us to Hollis Watkins Muhammad. I hadn’t heard of this magnificent man.

  • @eustacerobinson1773
    @eustacerobinson1773 10 месяцев назад +2

    Good Afternoon Dynamic Duo✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💜. Thanks as usual for Good Caffeine the Saturday Blessing are unconfounded. Blessing Sis, Blessings Dr CARR

  • @BusinessOfBeing
    @BusinessOfBeing 10 месяцев назад +3

    YES!!!! "...imagine a world without whiteness" from that place and space in consciousness take a new action. This idea is liberating if we are willing to transform our minds, hearta, and spirit. Reimagine a new way of being and move forward creating it, today! 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

  • @young00seek
    @young00seek 10 месяцев назад +3

    12:48 The reason is that the history (narrative) is connected to our self-identity. We must have one and it can be painful and a lot of work to teardown and rebuild your self-identity. It can pain you and strain your whole network of relationships, as someone who lived as a Christian for 13 yrs and is no longer. So any new information can be a threat to what I "know" abt myself. This is why ppl can be extremely protective over the narrative and the facts that are allowed to exist within it.

    • @Jayne-bk1qp
      @Jayne-bk1qp 10 месяцев назад +1

      young00seek
      PREACH! Another reply noted: The truth as we know it is always subject to revision at any given time! ASE

  • @RayannaW
    @RayannaW 6 месяцев назад

    "The live to fight another day mindset is the reason why we can't progress!!!"
    🗣THAT'S A WORD!!!!! That's Good!

  • @dunellawesby6635
    @dunellawesby6635 10 месяцев назад +2

    Nourishment thank you professor Hunter and Dr Carr 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💙💜💙💜💜 God bless you both keep doing this building nourishing us .✊🏾✊🏾

    • @knarrative
      @knarrative  10 месяцев назад

      No doubt. Thank you!

  • @p.w.7493
    @p.w.7493 10 месяцев назад +1

    That was a word, Dr. Carr, "Black people done carried all the burden!!"
    And, Pro. Hunter added the icing on the proverbial cake when she said,
    "Why don't you make America 'palatable' so we ALL can exist here?"
    That right there was the question of all time, Prof. Hunter!!👊🏽
    This ICWC Episode 186 was chock-full of history and wisdom nuggets!!!
    Thank you!!🙏🏾🖤💯

  • @33parentino
    @33parentino 10 месяцев назад +5

    The crazy part is that the fiat currency system "they" created is what's keeping they entire unholy construct alive.

  • @jcdhalia1241
    @jcdhalia1241 10 месяцев назад +5

    Good morning all, that gentleman, Hollis Watkins, was an angel of mercy!

  • @bennyallen2394
    @bennyallen2394 10 месяцев назад +9

    Thank you for speaking to our souls.

  • @minbelita1088
    @minbelita1088 10 месяцев назад +3

    Here! Right here!
    YOU 2 ARE TOO MUCH!
    Just the other day, I was wondering if anyone had made a movie about this very subject.
    "I don't know why people want to hold on to wrong" and "...construct that never goes away."
    Both = Proverbs 22:6
    I'm so glad you 2 are our double dose of blessings. GOD bless. Thanks!

  • @jamesedward7560
    @jamesedward7560 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you both so much for the rich history that you share with us from Saturday to Saturday. If I can't be with you all on Saturday morning I always get back before the weekend is over. Much appreciated . I share often hoping others I know will see the importance of what you both do. ( Kwasi) N.C.

  • @Neneswtherealverdict
    @Neneswtherealverdict 10 месяцев назад +6

    Watching the replay on YT 🙌🏾

  • @williamyoung5052
    @williamyoung5052 10 месяцев назад +3

    Put another way . White as a Racial Classification = Ability to practice Racism White Supremacy . No other reason to be White. Black as a Racial Classification or Non-White = Victim of Racism White Supremacy. Excellent discussion. Listening to these programs is always a constructive exercise.

  • @StirUpYourPurpose
    @StirUpYourPurpose 10 месяцев назад +6

    Today is Truth and Reconciliation Day here in Canada, and yes, the right word to use is that the Europeans were invaders and not settlers.
    The atrocious things performed boggles the mind!

    • @oldschoolsaint
      @oldschoolsaint 10 месяцев назад

      Until you study history and discover the uninterrupted string of violence and genocide marking all of human history.

  • @roqstone3752
    @roqstone3752 10 месяцев назад +2

    41:28
    This great Memoir From Elder Hollis Watkins Muhammad...Should be read Along beside the Autobiography of Malcolm x.....Why? Because Our Ancestor chronicles the Prolonged Process of Organizing to make life better for our People...the Mentality, Resilience and Comittment of a Man and his Wife is laid out in detail, so that there is Clear illustration that our Black Leaders should be known for more than Powerful Oratory Skills....

  • @barbaraburns8014
    @barbaraburns8014 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you professor Hunter and Dr Carr for this wonderful presentation. One more ancestor that I can love, respect and honor.

  • @maryhampton5054
    @maryhampton5054 10 месяцев назад

    ❤Hollis Watkins

  • @Pamelamusic371
    @Pamelamusic371 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this conversation, my thoughts and anxiety stems so much from this topic

  • @PamelaDoss
    @PamelaDoss 10 месяцев назад +8

    Listening again.

  • @beantianja
    @beantianja 10 месяцев назад +6

    Rest gently Dr. David Imhotep author of “The First Americans were Afrikan”

  • @BlackBeerdedNerd
    @BlackBeerdedNerd 10 месяцев назад

    This was one of my favorite classes ever! The conversation about the question posed was extremely important, relevant, and thought provoking. I learned alot today and I can envision US as a people in governance without their interference living in harmony.

  • @purpleness64
    @purpleness64 10 месяцев назад +1

    Live from the Baba Carr library

  • @donegood8712
    @donegood8712 10 месяцев назад +2

    Another Fantastic Podcast.

  • @supermike2164
    @supermike2164 10 месяцев назад +2

    I immediately thought of Francis Cress Welsing and Nelly Fuller. If people can't answer the question of a world without whiteness they don't understand why racism is

    • @profgolden227
      @profgolden227 10 месяцев назад +1

      Dr. Kress-Welsing changed my life.

  • @laron323
    @laron323 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have the Hattie McDaniel book. Her house was right across the street from First AME church in LA.

  • @raenettwilliams5897
    @raenettwilliams5897 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great conversation. We should take our fear and build. We would not need venture capitalist to support our needs if we ALL gave a little more to the substantiative issues that matter in Black communities across the country if not the world.

  • @horusallegory
    @horusallegory 10 месяцев назад +4

    This build is a classic 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Recovering memory 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
    @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy 10 месяцев назад +8

    Yes, chasing yt approval only perpetuates their power.

  • @lamontvernon757
    @lamontvernon757 10 месяцев назад

    Great episode ❤. Thank You!

  • @kathrynbatiste6380
    @kathrynbatiste6380 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good afternoon! Luv y'all! ❤❤

  • @tahirutv
    @tahirutv 10 месяцев назад +2

    Can someone please share the link to the “Why We Gather” conference at Howard that Dr. Carr was talking about?

    • @knarrative
      @knarrative  10 месяцев назад

      Links are in the descriptions.

  • @Caribbean_King
    @Caribbean_King 10 месяцев назад

    ❤❤

  • @mharm1017
    @mharm1017 10 месяцев назад +1

    Re-member that 2500 years of peace we had so that we could become gods and Kemet became the megaphone for Africa? That's the imagining I have going on in a world without whiteness.

  • @bigrockman991
    @bigrockman991 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for all that you do. It's a population that cares but unfortunately it's a greater population that are lost, follows participate and comply. As a result you see the mixing trend today. Respect

  • @purpleness64
    @purpleness64 10 месяцев назад +1

    Always here for the kmowledge, the hsitory, the petty and the shade ....

  • @purpleness64
    @purpleness64 10 месяцев назад

    I love burning 🔥 of the fears

  • @LoveHair283
    @LoveHair283 10 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate this Space. It has been my Mental and Governess Healing. I LOOK at So many things through a New Lense . THANKS Proff K and Dr. C.. You Guys are Saving Folks in ways you may Never know how many🎁🎁🙏🏾🙏🏾😁🌹💞💞💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👑👑👑👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @supermike2164
    @supermike2164 10 месяцев назад +1

    Black means original people of the earth

  • @jacquelinerogers2997
    @jacquelinerogers2997 10 месяцев назад +1

    Which displays more dignity, Hattie McDaniel playing a maid or any episode of Love and Hip Hop? Give me the maid.

  • @kimwilliams388
    @kimwilliams388 10 месяцев назад

    Great conversation Dr. Hunter and Dr. Carr. I believe you two may be able to do what Fred Hampton was doing and actually achieving; with this platform, before he was assassinated by this country's "colonializers".

  • @33parentino
    @33parentino 10 месяцев назад +3

    They hold on to wrong because this entire system, which we also support, is wrong !

    • @Jayne-bk1qp
      @Jayne-bk1qp 10 месяцев назад +1

      The system is rigged!

  • @lyvettah3142
    @lyvettah3142 10 месяцев назад

    Thank Ya'll ❣️Always You 2 Share! One I've also noticed, Not One Mentioned that Migration People Being Vaccinated...??

  • @tomaferguson6859
    @tomaferguson6859 10 месяцев назад +4

    Good everything family. I’m back like I left something.

  • @ELYYY99
    @ELYYY99 10 месяцев назад +1

    My voicemail is a snippet of Dr. Umar Johnson going in. My business partners hate leaving voicemails on my phone. Do I care? No.

  • @inezharrell4339
    @inezharrell4339 10 месяцев назад +3

    Good Morning beautiful 🌎

  • @100BlaQRaok.el_1
    @100BlaQRaok.el_1 10 месяцев назад

    ⭐🔥❤❤🔥⭐

  • @ahnz3m3
    @ahnz3m3 10 месяцев назад +5

    White Stupremacy/Stuperiority

  • @johnlittman3781
    @johnlittman3781 10 месяцев назад +2

    The truth as we know it is always subject to revision at any given time.

  • @willgibbs7754
    @willgibbs7754 10 месяцев назад +3

    Good morning

  • @startpage717
    @startpage717 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great explanation for Knarrative, Dr. Carr... Or when they do create the system, they are bought out (hair products, for example)

  • @tamaracharese
    @tamaracharese 10 месяцев назад +3

    Love you both

  • @user-wd4qk3el7j
    @user-wd4qk3el7j 10 месяцев назад

    That's the big question that what the whole kit an kabuddle rest on ,the 100,000,000 dollar question, it will be life every day style just with out the unnecessary pressure of WS. It's not necessarily needed for stability when you have justice for all.

  • @DarleneAnderson
    @DarleneAnderson 10 месяцев назад

    Right

  • @AviatorStone
    @AviatorStone 10 месяцев назад

    I don't think prof has all the background on what really happened with Coach Prime at Jackson State. Also, I don't think he knows how much Coach Prime is putting on for the HBCUs still.

  • @anthonyquashie7787
    @anthonyquashie7787 10 месяцев назад +5

    1.2 k views 2nd less than a 1/3 likes? Come on

  • @DarleneAnderson
    @DarleneAnderson 10 месяцев назад

    It’s considered an entitlement over us

  • @tmanpugh
    @tmanpugh 10 месяцев назад

    Like Ds seek permission ("precedent") from Rs, Blacks seek permission from Whites. Columbia, MD was established as a place where Blacks wouldn't have to defer to Whites.

  • @scottdowling7808
    @scottdowling7808 10 месяцев назад

    Does anyone have the link the Dr referred to?

  • @user-wd4qk3el7j
    @user-wd4qk3el7j 10 месяцев назад

    Hey with all due respect you see the help there getting , it's all about helping us fba's. We have to concentrat on us and us only , our kids are in the streets there's no more space for humanity for others whom is not on code with us, damit, this is code red for the black community all hands on deck, no bull.

    • @MooreVoicesMedia
      @MooreVoicesMedia 10 месяцев назад

      This rhetoric is dead on the vine, been discussed "why" here frequently, and within the Africana framework. Expand your awareness.

  • @alexomar7464
    @alexomar7464 10 месяцев назад +1

    To be White is a safe Place!
    To have an emotional connection to the American Dream.

  • @DerekFullerWhoIsGovt
    @DerekFullerWhoIsGovt 10 месяцев назад +1

    No one Has To Do ANYTHING unless they want to.

  • @gailcalloway6132
    @gailcalloway6132 10 месяцев назад +2

    ❤ amen

  • @purpleness64
    @purpleness64 10 месяцев назад

    Live to fight another day logic....

  • @tmanpugh
    @tmanpugh 10 месяцев назад

    Democracy replaces Race, like Wisdom of the People should replace Majority Rule. AL and LA should redraw their congressional boundaries because democracy, liberty and justice for all, requires it--not because of a synthetic construction called "race"

  • @kissoflove14
    @kissoflove14 10 месяцев назад +3

    ❤️🖤💚

  • @sharinaross1865
    @sharinaross1865 10 месяцев назад

    Is your product on the field.

  • @purpleness64
    @purpleness64 10 месяцев назад

    BRICKS

  • @ynotlearn4190
    @ynotlearn4190 10 месяцев назад

    @25:55 it’s a lot wrong with what’s being said. Only a small number of black people were “thriving” or well off. The overwhelming majority of black were “surviving” meaning poor and struggling.

  • @dnporter5506
    @dnporter5506 10 месяцев назад +1

    I disagree with the first two minutes of his speech.

    • @knarrative
      @knarrative  10 месяцев назад +2

      what exactly? and why?

  • @floydphillipsco
    @floydphillipsco 10 месяцев назад +1

    If we are talking about "racism", then we are not talking about an ambush. Why isn't the only conversation we're having about competing? Anything outside of planning an economic ambush is futile... Stop complaining about race, you can't force anyone to change how they think. The only thing you can do is BUILD, BUILD, BUILD!

    • @knarrative
      @knarrative  10 месяцев назад +3

      ...that's what we're doing while talking about it and leaving history breadcrumbs for those not quite ready to do so.

  • @tmanpugh
    @tmanpugh 10 месяцев назад

    Sankofa is BS. We must return to the Ways of the Ancestors. Truth everv is; untruth never was. It it's true, it's not new. If it's new it's not true. Progress? How can you improve perfection?

    • @MooreVoicesMedia
      @MooreVoicesMedia 10 месяцев назад

      What is perfection in this instance? If we don't get to it, do we forfeit our access to freedoem? If not Sankofa, what is the alternative?

  • @StirUpYourPurpose
    @StirUpYourPurpose 10 месяцев назад +1

    8:50 Yes, it is possible because it does not exist in the first place, it is a big fat lie. To imagine is to confirm it existed in the first place, and there you give it validity and your Power, your consciousness to exist in the first place. Pretty very simple and not rocket science 😮

  • @floydphillipsco
    @floydphillipsco 10 месяцев назад +2

    These two highly intelligent people are wasting their valuable time attempting to make sense of race or racism. Talk about the strategy for winning. How do we build our own system? Not a system that defeats white supremacy. A system that creates a thriving life for our people. The only thing that can beat a system is a better, more efficient system. Less complaining, more strategizing...

  • @1JoyPeace
    @1JoyPeace 10 месяцев назад +3

    "I don't know why people want to hold onto wrong". 🙅🏾‍♀️Preach & Teach, Professor. 🤎

  • @user-tk5it1bm3l
    @user-tk5it1bm3l 10 месяцев назад +1

    Babe tern your video up