Great review. @ 8:24 - I find the straps very helpful. I strap them around my hand before wearing the gloves. As I take breaks and need the gloves off, or to check phone, etc. they dangle vs. me having to find a place to put them or worse lose them. So the straps are meant to go around your arm not the jacket nor to hook to a jacket.
Good point about multiple gloves. In the PNW your gloves will wet out, so the option is to get 3 x $70 gloves rather than 1 x ~$200 gloves. I'd go with 3, because the look on the face of your ski buddy with his cold, wet, 200 dollar gloves when you pull out your 3rd pair of $70 dry gloves is priceless especially when he realizes that he could have used them after you pulled out your 2nd pair & his hands were already soaking at that point in the day. Or offer any of the $70 dry gloves in exchange for the $200 wet gloves, especially if the person says, "I'd do anything for dry gloves right now." Store them in any old plastic bag in your pack & you're ready for a long day. I actually just use 1 shell & three liners.
Great review Robert. I suffer from Raynauds. I live in the UK and use gloves/mitts during the winter. Admittedly we have milder winters than other places in the world, but with me suffering from Raynauds, means I need to use a glove/mitt, that would be an overkill for a lot of people to use in the conditions I use them in. I'm currently debating between these and the Fission SV Mitten, as from what I've read the SV weather (abbreviation of the word severe) is the range that provides the most warmth from their SV (severe weather) range. I might end up getting both, as mitts can sometimes be a bit warmer than their glove version. I'm travelling to a place in the UK in the next couple of months that has some Arc'teryx stores, so I'm hoping to be able to try the Fission SV gloves and Fission SV mittens on while in the store, and see how they feel, and which will be the best size.
Genuine, solid, detailed review! Thank you Robert! Feels like getting a pair of these would be an unparalleled option with a good discount. Been thinking getting these for a while might just pull the trigger this season.
Great review. I too did a bake off between these, the Guide glove and a couple of others. As you say the Guide glove is probably going to take a bit more abuse/hard use, but this one is no slouch either. The leather encases all fingertips which is something you want in a hard use glove using rope, on rock, etc. I mapped out to the upper end of the Large based on the fit guide, but ended up buying a Medium. I tried both and while the L would have worked, it left more room, or gaps of air inside the glove and therefore more bulky material than I would prefer. I am able to run an insulated glove insert in the M without it being too tight. The fingertip loop can come in handy if you have your gloves clipped to your jacket in the rain or wet snow, so the gloves don't fill with water too. Thanks again!
Quick question Robert that I wondered if you could answer for me please: I typically wear a waterproof jacket (Arc'teryx Beta AR) when wearing gloves/mitts. I always prefer to wear the cuffs of my jacket over the cuff of the glove/mitts. The jacket I have has velcro adjustment to widen and close the jacket cuff. I was wondering, would you say the Fission SV glove will fit underneath a waterproof sleeve, its just I prefer to wear them this way, as I find if I wear the glove over the sleeve in rainy conditions the rain can run down the jacket sleeve and into the glove.
Just a quick comment. I have these and use them most extensively for overnight hiking above 8000”. The sizing is very close to the edge, my L are very close to needing a size larger. I have issues with the tips of my fingers numbing out due to cold temps and do have these problems with these gloves. I can work around this by balling my hands into the main compartment. The issue with wetting out the interior is also an issue with these when working hard while breaking trail. I do have them dry by morning just letting them breath over night. I have purchased a pair of blue chemical gloves from granger supply to try out this year as VPR lining to reduce wetting and maybe keep my fingers from losing feeling. They also need a nose wipe on the backside but I am fine without. I took the time to also add a high quality goat wax to add more water proofing to the palm. Good review!
The biggest thing Robert is to tell people at what temperatures that you are wearing them and at what temps you are including an insert. I have not seen yet a glove that have a water proof membrane of any kind stay warm in the teens, single digits or down to zero or less. by tow different gloves same manufacture one with a waterproof lining and the other without. You will find that the one without does stay much warmer than the waterproof version. Why - because the WPM breaths too much. BTW the loop on the glove the true initial use of that was so that you can connect them to you jacket while in the elements...keeps the snow out. You will find that loop on many high end gloves even just climbing...so you dont drop or loose them. An extreme weather glove really doesn't need water proof membrane...if it is wet out then it is warm out. During outdoor activities below freezing a glove built like that and for that level of low hand exertion typically doesn't get wet.
Great review.
@ 8:24 - I find the straps very helpful. I strap them around my hand before wearing the gloves. As I take breaks and need the gloves off, or to check phone, etc. they dangle vs. me having to find a place to put them or worse lose them. So the straps are meant to go around your arm not the jacket nor to hook to a jacket.
Great review, thanks Robert! You just convinced us to grab two pairs for our upcoming Iceland trip next week!
Have fun! Glad i could help.
Good point about multiple gloves. In the PNW your gloves will wet out, so the option is to get 3 x $70 gloves rather than 1 x ~$200 gloves. I'd go with 3, because the look on the face of your ski buddy with his cold, wet, 200 dollar gloves when you pull out your 3rd pair of $70 dry gloves is priceless especially when he realizes that he could have used them after you pulled out your 2nd pair & his hands were already soaking at that point in the day. Or offer any of the $70 dry gloves in exchange for the $200 wet gloves, especially if the person says, "I'd do anything for dry gloves right now."
Store them in any old plastic bag in your pack & you're ready for a long day. I actually just use 1 shell & three liners.
Wise words indeed! I always have a spare set ready just for that reason. My back up to the backup is a light weight wool glove.
i just have 2 of these 😉
Great review Robert. I suffer from Raynauds. I live in the UK and use gloves/mitts during the winter. Admittedly we have milder winters than other places in the world, but with me suffering from Raynauds, means I need to use a glove/mitt, that would be an overkill for a lot of people to use in the conditions I use them in.
I'm currently debating between these and the Fission SV Mitten, as from what I've read the SV weather (abbreviation of the word severe) is the range that provides the most warmth from their SV (severe weather) range. I might end up getting both, as mitts can sometimes be a bit warmer than their glove version. I'm travelling to a place in the UK in the next couple of months that has some Arc'teryx stores, so I'm hoping to be able to try the Fission SV gloves and Fission SV mittens on while in the store, and see how they feel, and which will be the best size.
Genuine, solid, detailed review! Thank you Robert! Feels like getting a pair of these would be an unparalleled option with a good discount. Been thinking getting these for a while might just pull the trigger this season.
Glad to help!
you're doing well with the reviews, keep up
Much appreciated!
Great review. I too did a bake off between these, the Guide glove and a couple of others. As you say the Guide glove is probably going to take a bit more abuse/hard use, but this one is no slouch either. The leather encases all fingertips which is something you want in a hard use glove using rope, on rock, etc.
I mapped out to the upper end of the Large based on the fit guide, but ended up buying a Medium. I tried both and while the L would have worked, it left more room, or gaps of air inside the glove and therefore more bulky material than I would prefer. I am able to run an insulated glove insert in the M without it being too tight.
The fingertip loop can come in handy if you have your gloves clipped to your jacket in the rain or wet snow, so the gloves don't fill with water too.
Thanks again!
Quick question Robert that I wondered if you could answer for me please:
I typically wear a waterproof jacket (Arc'teryx Beta AR) when wearing gloves/mitts. I always prefer to wear the cuffs of my jacket over the cuff of the glove/mitts. The jacket I have has velcro adjustment to widen and close the jacket cuff. I was wondering, would you say the Fission SV glove will fit underneath a waterproof sleeve, its just I prefer to wear them this way, as I find if I wear the glove over the sleeve in rainy conditions the rain can run down the jacket sleeve and into the glove.
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Just a quick comment. I have these and use them most extensively for overnight hiking above 8000”. The sizing is very close to the edge, my L are very close to needing a size larger. I have issues with the tips of my fingers numbing out due to cold temps and do have these problems with these gloves. I can work around this by balling my hands into the main compartment. The issue with wetting out the interior is also an issue with these when working hard while breaking trail. I do have them dry by morning just letting them breath over night. I have purchased a pair of blue chemical gloves from granger supply to try out this year as VPR lining to reduce wetting and maybe keep my fingers from losing feeling. They also need a nose wipe on the backside but I am fine without. I took the time to also add a high quality goat wax to add more water proofing to the palm. Good review!
Thank you. Great details.
Does it helps to keep your hands warm when the temperature outside is -10 to -20 ?
Great review thank you!
Thanks for watching!
This glove is a bit larger than others. I wear large gloves in most other brands. This one I had to go down one size to get the same fit.
The biggest thing Robert is to tell people at what temperatures that you are wearing them and at what temps you are including an insert. I have not seen yet a glove that have a water proof membrane of any kind stay warm in the teens, single digits or down to zero or less. by tow different gloves same manufacture one with a waterproof lining and the other without. You will find that the one without does stay much warmer than the waterproof version. Why - because the WPM breaths too much. BTW the loop on the glove the true initial use of that was so that you can connect them to you jacket while in the elements...keeps the snow out. You will find that loop on many high end gloves even just climbing...so you dont drop or loose them. An extreme weather glove really doesn't need water proof membrane...if it is wet out then it is warm out. During outdoor activities below freezing a glove built like that and for that level of low hand exertion typically doesn't get wet.
Temperatures in my region vary from -10 to +10 C. I would say average temps for most of my season is around -3 C.
@@robertesell See that is not even remotely considered very cold where I am from. -30 to -40 is more like the very cold end.