Luba 5000 AWD 2 month Review - Real World Use

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  • Опубликовано: 15 авг 2023
  • Comprehensive 2 month of use review of the Luba 5000 AWD GPS guided robot mower by Mammotion.
    Amazon purchase link: amzn.to/463Qems
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  • @SeattleShelby
    @SeattleShelby Месяц назад +7

    No robot mower is perfect. After spending countless hours fixing boundary wires on my old Landroid, this thing looks like a dream come true.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  Месяц назад

      This years models with vision systems are even better!
      Sunseeker Orion X7 Review: the coolest robot lawnmower in 2024!
      ruclips.net/video/cT8aIOkjaxw/видео.html

  • @nunyabusiness1499
    @nunyabusiness1499 9 месяцев назад +8

    You obviously spent a lot of time to do these demonstrations. Thank you!

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the recognition, and hopefully you found some value in the videos.

  • @Hoopsaz5
    @Hoopsaz5 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the videos mate. Looks great for the tech savvy, I've ordered one. Can't wait!

  • @Crazypostman
    @Crazypostman 10 месяцев назад +19

    The no-go clean up problem has been fixed as of about 2 weeks ago finally!
    Edit: got to the end, I see you found the no-go border setting. You have to do three passes to get the closest. One is the furthest three is the closest.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  10 месяцев назад +2

      Great, I will switch to the 3 passes👍

    • @stevehawkins4776
      @stevehawkins4776 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheLawnEngineer The other thing I notice is that, at the beginning of your video, you show a no-go zone that has both flush borders and some vertical borders. For the vertical borders I have found that it is best to create a 6-12" secondary "border" by digging out about 3" deep and filling with stone so it is flush to the lawn. This allows you to overlap a bit top ensure you get all the way to the edges. The Luba is very good at navigation accuracy but not perfect. I'm slowly adjusting my landscaping to accomadate the Luba.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  9 месяцев назад +2

      @@stevehawkins4776 that is a great way to adapt your landscape to make it easier to maintain. I’ll get my game plan together over our long winter 🥶

  • @tedlandy
    @tedlandy 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video showing the limitations and benefits.

  • @SoleilRoiLe
    @SoleilRoiLe 20 дней назад +1

    Thank you for the post. Will look at your other videos on this device.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  19 дней назад

      I'm glad you found some value in this video. Thanks for the comment.

  • @emcsquare62
    @emcsquare62 4 месяца назад +3

    I ordered the Luba 2. Supposed to be shipped late march. I pray to God it was a wise move. I'm so nervous about it. No turning back now. I could have used that money to buy a gas powered mower.😬

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  4 месяца назад +1

      As it is a big purchase, on paper it looks like a nice upgrade from version one. Please let me know how it works in the real world.

  • @Cotronixco
    @Cotronixco 9 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder if some of the no-go areas can be defined in the initial zone perimeter programming for more accurate edging.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  9 месяцев назад +1

      The issue has actually been resolved, I cover it a bit at the end of the video. I have since discovered with the help of comments, 3 passes on the no go zones gets as close as the zone boundaries.

  • @schrodingersmechanic7622
    @schrodingersmechanic7622 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm curious about the perimeter setup. Do you just walk out around the perimeter of the property and set the house and driveway etc as no-go zones or do you just walk a mowing perimeter for it to stay in? I'm retiring my 3 year old landroid that uses a perimeter wire and am waiting on the Luba 2 I just ordered. I guess I'll figure it out when it comes in but I'm just kinda excited about it

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  3 месяца назад +1

      I cover that in my first video on this Luba, starting at ~20 minutes.
      LUBA AWD 5000 Setup and Review - GPS Robot Mower
      ruclips.net/video/Yib8AYSg7VQ/видео.html
      You drive it around the perimeter with your phone to establish the total yard. Then you make no-go zones within that area.

  • @user-cl4xu6nr7k
    @user-cl4xu6nr7k 3 месяца назад +1

    Will you give comment on the Ruba staying outside during poor weather conditions? I live in Michigan and our spring/summer season can bring some nasty weather. Still on the fence about buying mine because of this concern.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  3 месяца назад +1

      I do cover that in this video:ruclips.net/video/k_3oMV6G8bY/видео.html
      I leave it outside except when there is a frost concern. The unit is not as waterproof as I would expect. Water does get into the base of the unit and my biggest concern is that water freezing and breaking internals.
      I'm hoping to get a few other robot mowers this spring and comparing them to the Luba, stay tuned.

  • @TheCraigbmw
    @TheCraigbmw 10 месяцев назад +12

    adjust to 3 No-go zone mowing laps and you should be fine love your videos

    • @jocelyndrolet4610
      @jocelyndrolet4610 10 месяцев назад

      Nope, I tried that and it does not solve the problem.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  10 месяцев назад

      Great, I’m switch on the next cut 👍

    • @DeepThinkNow
      @DeepThinkNow 9 месяцев назад +1

      3 pass no-go and I get to point where I drew the no-go zone. 25+ co-viewing satellites. Wonder if it’s under 20 if it plays it safe.

    • @user-ur3ry6hj2j
      @user-ur3ry6hj2j 9 месяцев назад

      Yeh that solves it as it starts mowing from the 3rd pass out rather than starting from the inside path like the border

  • @dreddr6244
    @dreddr6244 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great review. Question: do you have issues with it not finishing cuts when it travels under tree cover? Thanks

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you.
      When it goes under low hanging branches or brush it can lose gps signal. It sits there until signal is regained, sometimes seconds and other times 5 minutes.

    • @dreddr6244
      @dreddr6244 7 месяцев назад

      @@TheLawnEngineer thanks

  • @uuzd4s
    @uuzd4s 6 месяцев назад +4

    I hope Mammotion is watching these thorough reviews of the Luba Mower setup. Personally, I think your Lawn layout exercises all the challenges that Mammotion set out to conquer w/ this mower. It has all the variables they say this Mower can do, as it should.
    If Mammotion is paying attention here, what say you about the option to add a second RTK Antenna to deal w/ the structure interference you're always going to get w/ a home surrounded by Lawn ? Come On Mamotion, get on this before your competition beats you at your own game here, because, you know they're working on that Right Now. 😉
    Sorry I had to use your Channel to get Mammotion's attention, but that's because of all the YT channels reviewing this GPS Mower right now, yours has the most usable intel on this $2,500 investment. Thx !

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for taking the time to comment. I agree with your summary, I hope MAMMOTION watches too.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@uuzd4s awesome! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I’m looking forward to hearing more about your ownership experience.

  • @MI-6e
    @MI-6e 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ive been watching a number of reviews on this. Does the signal cut out on cloudy days? Does everything have to be set up from scratch if you store everything away for winter? Grass is dormant here in winter, don't need mowing. I would prefer not leaving it outside all winter. It does seem like you still have to do cleanup after it.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  9 месяцев назад

      Clouds do not seem to affect the GPS signal.
      You will have to leave the RTK antenna and charging station outside, then no setup is required in spring. If you move the RTK, you will have to remap everything.
      There is no pickup or mulching capability so I do blow off the grass every couple of weeks.

    • @MI-6e
      @MI-6e 9 месяцев назад

      ​@TheLawnEngineer The yard looks great! love your detailed explanations. It's very helpful. Hope to see an update on how long the blades last and obtaining parts.

  • @DEADB33F
    @DEADB33F 4 месяца назад +1

    What's the process to get hold of parts if the thing breaks out of warranty? ....or if something breaks due to wear & tear, or accidental damage so not covered by warranty (eg. not a manufacturing defect).
    Had been tempted by the Luba 2 as it's nearly half the cost of the equivalent Husqvarna ...but I'm always wary of Chinese products where spare parts availability is essentially zero.
    For a Husqvarna or Kress robo-mower I can buy pretty much any part down to the smallest nut & bolt from several independent spare parts distributors. And there are plenty of places that service and repair them within the UK (some that I can drive to).
    If a Luba goes wrong I can't buy parts myself and neither can any local repair shops so presumably I'd have to send the entire thing back to China for weeks/months to have it repaired (assuming they'll even repair the thing out of warranty).
    ---
    For a big purchase like this of something I'd expect to last for 10+ years buying anything that I can't buy spare parts for seems insane.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  4 месяца назад

      Yes, spare parts are not available. What is available on their website is pretty much it.
      Hopefully brands with more of a US presence catch up. The options are improving but not too many with the same capabilities as the Luba.

  • @user-ie2xp2pi4n
    @user-ie2xp2pi4n 9 месяцев назад +1

    In 12:44, the boundary should be drawn by driving Luba more smoothly, otherwise they might be some little corners on the boundary and there will be some extra movement when Luba cuts the perimeter

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  9 месяцев назад +2

      I’ll try to be better but it’s not the easiest. I video game controller would make it easier.

    • @user-ie2xp2pi4n
      @user-ie2xp2pi4n 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheLawnEngineer Yes,the virtual joysticks have no real-time force feedback so it is not easy to move robots precisely

  • @mikepetersen5024
    @mikepetersen5024 8 месяцев назад +1

    You have a lot of trees and overhangs. Does the Luba still work well in your whole yard?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  8 месяцев назад +1

      It does lose satellite signal when it goes under low overhanging branches. It pauses and waits to recover signal. After recovering signal it resumes cutting. I have had three times over the course of this year that it didn't recover signal and sat in-place until the battery died. I had to carry the unit back to the charging station and went on with life.

  • @247ryanjones
    @247ryanjones 8 месяцев назад +2

    that lady in the back walking sideways is hilarious. We all have one in our neighbors

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  8 месяцев назад +1

      I’m glad you noticed and found it entertaining 🤣. Gotta hit those stabilizing muscles 🙃

  • @Johnsouthshore
    @Johnsouthshore День назад +1

    I notice that almost all of the automowers do not pick up grass clippings. Does that create an issue with thatch over awhile?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  День назад

      It has not been a problem for me. When I have had thatch problems it seems to be dead grass still attached to roots.

  • @AliciaBrownSugar
    @AliciaBrownSugar 9 месяцев назад +1

    When you make the no go zone, are you driving on the grass? Try to see if you can drive it on the rocks a little, like with it partially on the rocks and a wheel on the grass and see how close it gets to where you don't want it to go. Not sure if that'll help or if you'll end up with it just going where you don't want it to go, but since you're testing anyway and since you got the map editing down, you should be able to fix it back soon enough.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  9 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately, the concrete edgers I have used stick above the ground enough to prevent driving the Luba into the landscape rock areas. Your idea is good and will work for most yards.

  • @cornclan
    @cornclan 7 месяцев назад +1

    Whats the maximum acreage you you think this thing can handle? Seems like it can mow it's rated area in a single mow! Think it could manage 3 acres on alternating days?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  7 месяцев назад +2

      I think 1 acre is realistic for this machine. It cannot do its rated acreage on one mow. It can mow about 1/4 on one charge, but it does recharge automatically and continue on.
      I say 1 acre because it really shouldn't mow when wet so that greatly reduces the number of hours it can cut per day. This is highly dependent on the climate, so my 1 acre recommendation is for my region (Upper Midwest of the US).

    • @cornclan
      @cornclan 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheLawnEngineer interesting because that is below its 1.25 acre rating. You think it's capability is oversold?
      I know the luba 3000 is rated at 0.75 acre and they software limit the mapable area to that number.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@cornclanI think 1.25 acres is reasonable but I would be tough for my lawn. I water and fertilize so it would be pushing it to keep up especially if it rains for three days in a week. If you live somewhere dry and can mow 24 hours a day, it can do more than 1.25 acres. To be clear, the rating isn’t cut per charge. The unit is made to take a break, charge and continue on.

  • @crw31399
    @crw31399 9 месяцев назад +1

    How would this work with waterfront property. Would you trust it not to go off seawall?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  9 месяцев назад

      Great question…I guess that depends on how far you expect it to cut from the drop off and what it has to drive over to reach the water.
      The GPS accuracy is great 95% of the time but it can miss by a foot or two occasionally. There are good sensors too if there is a barrier or lip of 3”-4” that it would contact or see.

  • @MartinBjorgvik
    @MartinBjorgvik 2 месяца назад +1

    How is the mower behaving now, I guess there has been a number of updates since the autumn

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  2 месяца назад

      I live pretty far North, the grass is just waking up from winter. I will have an update video soon after setting it up and cutting a few times for spring.
      I am looking forward to see what software updates have come.

  • @simonamaral9904
    @simonamaral9904 8 месяцев назад +1

    personally I enjoy the mow and probably never use one. From all the videos I've seen I don't care for how the lawn looks , I like my stripes and different patterns.

  • @oz457
    @oz457 8 месяцев назад

    Hi, I have two questions.
    1. How does it handle banches that fall off the trees?
    2. How does it handle mole hills.
    Kind regards.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  8 месяцев назад

      1. It passes over most of them without incident. I have had a small one get caught above the cutter plate. This caused an overload error and shut the mower down in-place. I removed the branch and the Luba happily went back to mowing.
      2. I don't have any experience with this. The only problem I would anticipate it cutters hits them if they are higher than the cut height.

    • @benking4601
      @benking4601 Месяц назад

      I don't know about the Luba, but one thing we notice with our existing robot mower (Husqvarna 430) is that wherever the mower goes the moles don't make hills, I figure they don't like the vibrations from the mower so stay away. Instead they attack our borders and beds!

  • @sargemonday4801
    @sargemonday4801 10 месяцев назад +3

    It appears you turned off "tank turn" and put it on "multi-point turn" (I think it's called). That should fix that doughnut by the charger. Also "CrazyPostman" made a "dog house" for his Luba to protect it. He said the radio waves go through plastic. Things will get better with time. Remember the first Roombas?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  10 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, I did turn off zero turn in favor of the multi-point-turn; hopefully, it helps the doughnut.
      I see that Mammotion offers a plastic roof that attaches to the charging station. I think I will purchase that instead building something.

    • @bryandimsdale1272
      @bryandimsdale1272 9 месяцев назад

      @thelawnengineer The mat is Mammotion's solution for the doughnut in front of the charging station. Put the mesh mat where the doughnut is (or where it's does its zero turn before backing into charge) Before placing it, use a string trimmer to scalp the grass really close and low just bigger than the mat. Staple the mat as low and tight as you can. Eventually the grass will grow through the mat (if u get it close enough to the soil by scalping the grass prior to placing it) and it will be barely visible. It will prevent the soil from being churned up and no dough nut dead spot.

  • @benmarshall2996
    @benmarshall2996 2 месяца назад +1

    how about a small plastic cover/tent roof, a tiny garage?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  2 месяца назад +1

      That would provide good protection but it has to look nice too.

  • @jocelyndrolet4610
    @jocelyndrolet4610 10 месяцев назад +4

    I have my Luba AWD 5000 for 7-8 weeks now and my experience with Luba is 100% like yours. Very good video but I think you are much too "complaisant" with Mammotion. I really think the software is crap, full of bugs. I have remapped my 6 zones at least 10 times my rtk is on the most upper part of my roof, I have about 7-8 small trees and Luba has a hard time to talk to the RTK. It is even impossible to finish to map a no-go zone bcs it looses signal before I am done and it locks itself, it never recover by itself. IMO, this product is not ready yet. Most of the time, their software updates solve some problems but create more problems.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  10 месяцев назад

      My Lube experience does seem to be a bit better than yours but I agree I am fairly forgiving. I hope you can figure something out that works for you…I don’t think Mammotion will be of any help.

    • @sargemonday4801
      @sargemonday4801 10 месяцев назад +3

      What I found out in my experience is that if there is ANYTHING above the Luba kinda close while mapping a zone it will stop and get an error. I had some low hanging branches next to the woods so I trimmed those and now everything is OK.

    • @billymoon4089
      @billymoon4089 8 месяцев назад

      My luba 5000 experience is about the same. Software is total crap. Radio signal is total crap. I'm a wireless engineer and I can tell you the design and execution of the radio is total crap. I tell EVERYONE not to buy this piece of crap. Still have mine and am playing with it. It seems the RTK drops, even with direct line of sight between the robot and the RTK, even with 24+ sat's in view from the robot. This happens randomly and periodically. When it does, all it fails and locks itself down. You can write off trying to EVER get a marginal area mapped out because of this fault. They need some major redesign of the RTK and differential GPS process in general. They need multiple RTK support. The only plus is that the thing really does mow well. There's so much potential for this product but the crap software and radio design makes it totally unusable for anything beyond a quick demo mow for your friends.

  • @channelvr1293
    @channelvr1293 8 месяцев назад +1

    had it for 2 weeks now ...not happy at all....keeps getting connection problems tried everything. Gonna sell it and go for the new LIDAR versions that dont need satellites.
    plus my luba fell into a hole last time so it doesnt have edge detection. (even my roomba has that) i already had 3 Husqvarna mowers but they where with cables and after 5 years they needed to be replaced. Pitty i was hoping for a worry free mower and YES not ready at all for the masses.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  8 месяцев назад

      Too bad it didn’t work out for you. LiDAR will be a very interesting inclusion to a robot mower.
      Good luck selling and thanks for taking the time to check in.

  • @joerazz9512
    @joerazz9512 6 месяцев назад +1

    So can you operate this mower when you are traveling?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  6 месяцев назад

      Yes you can. It can be scheduled to run or you can run on demand via your cell phone anywhere you can an internet connection.

  • @Iexpedite1
    @Iexpedite1 19 дней назад +1

    I’m at the 14:00 minute mark of your video. All your issues still exist with Luba 2.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  18 дней назад +1

      I have an updated video here:Luba 5000 AWD 2nd Year Setup - Real World Use - Improvements Made
      ruclips.net/video/gnDpP9WXuB8/видео.html
      Things are going very well this year with the Luba. To clarify, I have the original Luba, the Luba 2 has a vision system in addition to gps, mine is gps only.

  • @NateSl
    @NateSl 29 дней назад +1

    I think I’m sold on this

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  29 дней назад +1

      Luba 2 with the vision system looks even better.

  • @Ristogod
    @Ristogod 3 месяца назад

    Seems to create more issues than it solves. I'll keep running my Hustler where mowing takes 10-15mins, until these things are 100%.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  3 месяца назад

      Good plan, development seems to be happening quickly, I’m excited to see what the next few years bring.

  • @Hung337
    @Hung337 Месяц назад

    The problem it’s don’t collect the gas after cutting so it’s still leave the mess

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  Месяц назад +1

      It doesn’t collect the grass but you can have it cut every day if you want. If you cut frequently the grass clippings will be small.

  • @livingworldbg9476
    @livingworldbg9476 Месяц назад

    I didn't see a single robot mower mowing close to the curb, who's going to remove that grass?

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  Месяц назад

      It does take “boundary” cut that gets within an inch or two of the edgers. I do have to use a string trimmer to get the rest but I had to with conventional mowers also.

  • @jeromewaites5364
    @jeromewaites5364 10 месяцев назад +2

    The update fixed that

    • @jocelyndrolet4610
      @jocelyndrolet4610 10 месяцев назад

      In my case, I still have at least 18 inches around my trees that remains uncut!

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  10 месяцев назад

      I put that at the end of the video…I do t blame you for not lasting that long 🙃

  • @ghggp1
    @ghggp1 5 месяцев назад

    How do you clean it? I initially they showed you can clean off the underside deck with a garden hose. Now they say you can’t!
    ruclips.net/video/LG1UI3mfzh8/видео.html

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  5 месяцев назад

      I just scrap/brush the grass buildup off. I talk about it and modify the guards to reduce the buildup, in this video:ruclips.net/video/k_3oMV6G8bY/видео.html
      Thanks for checking in.

  • @patricksquires6348
    @patricksquires6348 9 месяцев назад +1

    PGR to the rescue on no go zone!

  • @Hoopsaz5
    @Hoopsaz5 5 месяцев назад

    15:23 What the heck is that random women doing 🤣🤣

  • @tracyjensen5106
    @tracyjensen5106 13 дней назад

    I don't think software will compensate

  • @toastranger72
    @toastranger72 Месяц назад

    I don't think my tree cover is even as bad as his. I have my RTK on a pole above my second story roof. Even though it says RTK has 34/25 satellites, mower 28, and 17 shared, i can't get better than "weak" signal.Waste of money.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  Месяц назад

      Thats too bad, but thanks for sharing your experience so others are informed.

    • @toastranger72
      @toastranger72 Месяц назад +1

      @@TheLawnEngineer I was about to give up. I found one spot on the edge of the yard that the mower said the signal was OK. I got a few extension cords, and ran the RTK over. It finally allowed me to create a map section. To my surprise, it now allowed me to map everywhere so far, even the other side of the house. I was very stressed about this $2,800 gamble. Huge relief that, though not ideal, it's working.

    • @TheLawnEngineer
      @TheLawnEngineer  Месяц назад

      @@toastranger72 I'm glad to hear your found a location where the RTK works for you. How are things going now?

    • @toastranger72
      @toastranger72 Месяц назад

      Constant problems and frustration. I cannot recommend this mower.