Linkara: *Talks about how Batman Fortunate Son may have failed as a tribute to Rock 'n Roll.* Nostalgia Critic: *Takes notes on how to do the same for Pink Floyd*.
+TPrower Probably the funniest drawing of Batman featured on AT4W (with the possible exception of Bat-Bunny in Batman: Fortunate Son). Batman looks like he really REALLY doesn't want to be here.
I've played jazz for at least 8 years. There is no grand manifesto to understanding Jazz, it literally is as simple as you do or you don't. This comic is an insult to me as both a Batman fan and a Jazz musician.
@@jekblom123 Probably the progressions. Jazz is extremely technically precise. As well, if Buddy Rich is any indication, being a good jazz musician means taking the genre so seriously to the point of obsession and being a complete asshole about all other genres of music.
Greatest Quotes From Bad Batman Comics: #4. "Damn you and your lemonade!" - Hal Jordan (All Star Batman and Robin #9) #3. Every line is this comic #2. "'Punk' is nothing but death and crime and the rage of a beast" - Batman (Batman: Fortunate Son) #1. Children! Pull on your tights! -Batman (or Crazy Steve depending on who you ask) (The Dark Knight Strikes Again)
Has anyone ever commented about Linkara's ability to convey emotion for acting? He puts it in VERY good use here, specially as you can tell when Linkara the character realizes 'oh crap, I see why they were worried about me now' during Holokara's rant.
Linkara was literally listening to himself and realizing just how far he would've fallen had Margaret not shut off her magic as an intervention. And you can tell he was realizing this by his expression the entire time. It may have been acting, but it was very believable.
I've known some jazz musicians, and NONE of them are as pretentious and self-absorbed as the ones in this comic. If you can't dig, it's not your fault-sometimes bebop IS just noodling around, looking for what sounds right. It's improv.
+RyutheWeredragon For the pretentious thing, yes. For the 'most of it is improv', not so much. I can't improvise for toffee though I can sight read well, though often if you're unsure exactly how a bit goes, you might just noodle through it, playing something fairly quiet that sounds about right.
In case you don't what either of those things are, I'm going to give you samples: Cowboy Bebop Jazz - ruclips.net/video/T6zDfxZ4NcE/видео.html Persona 5 Jazz - ruclips.net/video/0jm8nnHqx80/видео.html
That doesn't mean they didn't exist. Buddy Rich, one of the best jazz drummers ever, was ten times as pretentious and self-absorbed as any of the jazz musicians in this comic.
I always loved how Scott Pilgrim included the sheet music for the song they played with instructions to play it badly. I kinda wish more comics would do stuff like that or how the cartoon metalocalypse had one of the characters giving a guitar lesson.
@@RabblesTheBinx it's also rather amusing to think how different they are. Bruce Wayne is a more amiable version of the Batman whereas Superman is Clark Kent's views to the nth degree. Or the other way round in the case of the latter, either works.
Just when I thought that the first meeting with Margaret would be the most heartwarming part of this arc. The team bonding here is right up there with the fantastic "You didn't think you were in this alone, did you?" scene. Marvelous stuff as always, thank you.
Where's this idea that Jazz is an expression of pain come from? I guess it can, but that's true for Rock, Rap, Classical, even Country, and especially Blues. Are the writers suggesting that Parker was a genius BECAUSE his tragic life instead of DESPITE it? You ain't Ray, comic!
I agree with your interpretation of the whole Secret Identities of Batman and Superman. Actually I find it fascinating that in the DCAU episode "world's finest" Lois Lane's love interest drives towards two "masks" Superman and Bruce Wayne but doesn't think much of the two "real" people, Clark Kent and Batman.
25:46-25:57 I think I can translate: "Who's that bat, guy? That bat guy is freaking out..." something something "I guess these guys aren't cool, guy!" "A guy can't be cool if he doesn't scat (with us?) when he sees the Brothers of the Bop!"
The comic is partially correct. The origins of Bebop essential stemmed from the likes of Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker, as well as a few others, but "Blue Byrd" is referring to Charlie Parker's nickname "YardBird", Blue Byrd is made up for the comic, so that's probably why nothing could be found about it.
GrandAce Huh i guess it wasn't really important to the review but yeah as off shortly after the review aired in 012 he found that out since this is a 3 part miniseries and as of this year he has reviewed all parts.
Personally It should have had some kind info even as a just a section or notes. Just in case people reading wanted to learn more about the subject could look it up.
+GrandAce I was gonna mention the Blue Byrd = Charlie "Bird" Parker connection but Linkara said to check the comments first. looks like it never hurts to do that.
17:46 " listen to Willy Little, he's here occasionally, we can't actually tell you when though, he just shows up and we stop everything so he can do his thing"
To me though these kind of bits are the reason why I feel THIS storyline is the best of the show so far. As imposing as characters like Vyce and the Entity are, Holokara's speech not only serves as a good counter point to Linkara, but to the entire show in general: as much as Linkara dislikes and hates comic books and wishes he could change and alter what happened in them, he doesn't. Even when he has the supposed power to do so. And not just because he doesn't want to abuse his power or force over others but in the believe of the good of humanity and of the creative force. And that by trying to control a story no matter how right your "intentions" are it doesn't make you any better then the one you're ralling against for what they do to a character. I really like the two's back and forth for how much it does make Holokara feel like a force with his own persona besides just "seemingly evil Linkara" as well as how Lewis's character responds to it. And really just like how talking down the entity made more sense then fighting it, proving Holokara was wrong was more important then fighting it. I also really like the wrap up with everyone as well: I guess it is a bit too quick (and I always found it weird how Linkara just sorf of shrugged off 90's Kid "dude he reached into my heard and squeezed it like a madball" comment) but it works and honestly shows how the side characters have developed into more then just quirky one dimensional other variations of Linkara but as their own characters which we'd see even more of in the next part of the story arc. It's all very well written stuff that really shows how far Lewis has come as a writer on his own series. And honestly makes me even more exited for the movie which supposedly has even more moments of the other characters though interacting with CA producers. Though that reminds me since I rewatched Linkara's review of the AVGN movie: does the AT4W pass the Bechdel test? Hoping it does.
DianaGohan It's why it was so important to get Linkara back for the Halloween storyline. Having the shadow creature screwing with their heads doesn't make sense for Holokara and allowed all of their boiling resentments and feelings to come to the surface.And yep, while of course it is not the ultimate barometer of whether a piece is feminist or not, I made sure the movie passed the Bechdel Test. ^_^ While the majority of the film has all the characters in a room together or separated into their own subplots, there is a scene where MarzGurl, Obscurus Lupa, and Nimue are all talking to each other about a battle strategy.
CruelestChris Uh, duh. I don't know why you said that when I was pointed out liking this part of the AT4W story. I never said it was out of control or something so your comment no offense doesn't really seem to have a point.
Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall "Having the shadow creature screwing with their heads doesn't make sense for Holokara and allowed all of their boiling resentments and feelings to come to the surface"- Also thinking about it was a natural progression for when the team finally formulated a plan to take down Holokara they'd enact it. And honestly if Linkara didn't come in, I don't think Holokara would of just let them all get away either so it not only made sense for the story, but safety of the characters."And yep, while of course it is not the ultimate barometer of whether a piece is feminist or not, I made sure the movie passed the Bechdel Test"- Good to hear. And yeah I know it isn't but again rewatching your review of the AVGN movie and I noticed you were asking whether or not that movie passed the Bechdel test so it made me think "hmmm hope we don't have to ask that question of Lewis's movie." Cause thinking about it, honestly the only TGWTG anniversary movie that even passed the Bechdel test was To Boldly Flee and yeah, though I still enjoy it, that has some... questionable at best scenes in it with some of the female characters.
CruelestChris Yeah I know man. Hell I make fanfiction myself so I don't have a problem with people taking stories that exisit and adding onto them and doing their own thing as those can be even more creative or interesting. Just saying I really liked what Linkara did here with this story.
I will say that Holokara has an excellent point. Shitty writers have proven time and time again that they do NOT know how to properly handle the characters that they are given. HOWEVER. I surmise that as bad as those comics are, I think that, to a degree, we need comics like that. We need One More Day, we need Cry for Justice, we need Countdown and Ultimatum. Why? Because they show us the worst of comics so future comic book fans and writers know what to avoid and what to expect. We need to know what half-assed stories, half-assed characters, shock value deaths, horribly corroborated story lines and just generally bad comics look like, even with good elements and good histories, so we know how to make them better and to keep them on the right path.
A good Batman story I've come accross that's centered around Jazz (kinda) is 'The Devil's Trumpet' from Batman: Black & White. (Before someone asks, it's not inked in anything but black and white, hence the title. It's a short story compilation.) It's about a Trumpet that a famous musician supposedly made the devil envious and made him claim his soul. The ending is the best part of the story, it's very short but the build up i great.
In fact after thinking over things a bit...Batman Fortunate Son finally clicked. Mainly....it’s the writers being mega-boomers about those damn kids today listening to punk music rather then gold days of rock
@@plasticweapon I don't think he is. We're all just getting old and are expecting popular music to be the music that defines what music of the times is...which isn't always true.
14:36 - I like your interpretation on the secret identities of Batman and Superman. I find it ironic because, my father's interpretation is actually the reverse. He believes that Superman is the greatest Super Hero ever, because his persona is not his super-identity is not a disguise - and therefore when he is in combat, he has nothing to hide. He reasons that, because Superman is Kryptonian, Kal-El is his TRUE identity, whereas Clark Kent is actually his disguise while on earth. Granted, my dad never was one for seeing the "big picture." He doesn't really comprehend that Superman...wasn't always a man. While he's true that his true origins dictate that he is Kal-El...that doesn't change that he was raised to be Clark Kent; it's not like he entirely abandons his upbringing by his human parents when he becomes Superman (nor is that life just a facade).
@17:50 about a jazz club being popular around election time I think it's talking about politicians trying to pander to African Americans? I know it's a stretch, but it's all I got
I agree, they do it alot, go to a culturally significant place to try and sell themselves as of the people, like all the presidential hopefuls eating street food in NY this year
Uh, Holokara, blowing up Marvel Entertainment (and DC Entertainment would be next I assume) won't end half-done reboots, retcons, or any of the other problems with writing stories in shared universes. You do raise a good point about one thing. Many comic book characters like Superman, Spider-Man, and others have in a way, become our modern day mythology. They're kept alive through people writing stories about them. And not just from their official creators and owners. Fans write their own stories and make their own comics with them, too. Superheroes have the power to inspire, and people will still write stories and adventures for them. The thing is, Holokara, there are probably people out there who do like One More Day. I'm not one of them, but I'm sure there are, stories are subjective. There are people who will continue to make stories based on the retcons and reboots you hate because to them, they were good ideas, good stories, or things that got them interested in the characters they like in the first place. Comic books and the stories within, like any other art form, is subjective. What may be hated by one person, may be a great story to another.
laz kar there are people who like the works of Perfect Lionheart; there must exist some people in the world who like that mess; Neal Adams, for instance
This hologram needs to come back. Here's a cool thing you could do: Some other villain scavenges through Linkara's deleted files or whatever, and finds the lost code for the hologram, reconstructing it, partially. Then, it returns, and beats up Linkara, whilst we don't see the character's face, and then locks Linkara away. Then for the next weeks, the Hologram is running the show, and to make sure no one notices, he uses a different server to project himself. Also, at the beginning of his first episode he starts with: "Oh, don't worry about that, I took care of it... so anyways,". Also, to hint that it's the hologram, we see it malfunction a few times, projecting improperly, and glitching up sometimes. Of course, the other characters take notice and look into it while the Hologram's power recharges. Once it does, he shows his evil intentions once more. By now, the characters have spotted where the actual Linkara is, though not entirely sure it's him, since all they're going by is a faint distress signal since the hologram removed any tracking devices Linkara may have had, except some simple bit of technology. When they all return, with Linkara in hand after they free him, the Hologram and whatever villain Resurrected him, perhaps vice, fight the heroes. At this time, Linkara is in no condition to fight, as he's been malnourished for some time, only staying alive to do some spell. After that, Pollo and Dr. Linksano figure out how to disable the hologram, overwriting the code many times to make sure it never returns.
4:09- Speaking as a christian myself, and a Batman fan, I love rock & roll, and so does the rest of my family. Screw you, propaganda spewers. Batman in this comic is also as musclebound as he was in The Dark Knight Returns. Say what you will about the Batsuit in the DC Extended Universe, but it wasn't bizarre like this. 31:35- Holokara should fit right along with the Facebook group known as "Down with Disney's Treatment of Franchises and its Fanboys."
Batman bleeds on the cover like he was a fighter in Mortal Kombat with the blood set to MAX (it was a thing in Deadly Alliance, Deception, & Armageddon, though I'm not sure that option is still available in the newer titles)! Seriously, fighters in those MK games could bled so much when the setting was at max, that the Vampiress Nitara would never go hungry!
The beautiful ending and swelling heroic track in the end with the five characters, saying that they are united. As of the time of this post, Fist of the North Star came out. Linkara has verbally attacked ALL of the people he cares about and 90's Kid takes off with Vice. Hindsight, a zinger.
It's baffling when people do stuff like this, vilify rock and roll and say they love it, make Jazz look bad and still say they love it, and those other writers that did Identity Crisis that say they love the Silver Age and made it as a tribute, but then make it a really dark gritty depression comic that has nothing to do with the Silver Age. I really can't seem to wrap my head around this. It makes no sense, how does someone attend one thing, then make the opposite like this?
"Maybe you'll learn that you're Batman and you should have swung on to keep patrolling." Gonna disagree with you there. Some really great moments in Batman TAS where the little moments where he stops to talk to the random people he saves or helps. There's nothing wrong with stopping to make sure people are okay and showing a little humanity to them. You know, when it's well written and in the service of a good story. This is fiction after all.
16:29 you know what’s really hilarious (to me, at least) about the idea of velcro being invented by aliens? The person who invented velcro was inspired by a microscope viewing of burrs, i.e. those little round things you pick up on your clothes when you go on walks through our nice, Earthly woods! Velcro is a VERY human invention 😊
For a quick out, you could argue that nothing the hologram did was against the subroutines of nimuhe. Repositioning yourself, not evil. Target these places, not evil. Actually firing, then she would disobey, because that would violate her program. But that's just my interpretation of things.
I like smooth jazz. I was crushed when the radio station that played smooth jazz in my area went off the air in 2010. However, it has since returned, so I continue to listen to it again. I also listen to it as study music.
I really liked Holo-Linkara's monologue about comics. I stopped reading modern comics before _One More Day_ , but I felt the same way when they killed Ted Kord (Blue Beetle was *my* favorite too, although I suspect you're more a Jaime Reyes guy).
And so, my favorite arc from this show comes to a close. We've come full circle, after going on his journey, Linkara's growth as a person out weights his holographic counterpart's stubbornness. I don't know about anyone else reading this, but I think Lewis has made progress by improving the comic book industry with his reviews. Just to name an example, a few months after his 600th episode, Marvel DID try to reverse Sins Past. Now, while it COULD just be a coincidence, I'd like to think otherwise.
My...best guess as to the “rock tribute” thing in Fortunate Son is maybe it’s the creators being massive boomers and saying only classic rock is good and disregarding punk and other newer rock “because it was better on my Earth!” ,but that’s just guess work.
These characters seem like the types who'd freak out if you started playing Miles Davis, especially On the Corner (a jazz-funk album despised by jazz critics and loved by other critics).
Watching Linkara's rant on the rock 'n roll comic reminded me of this: back when my mom worked as Tour guide for the Therese Carreño Theater there were several big events. But here is one, Nina Hagen the pope John Paul II were coming. The chairs of the hall ended pretty damaged, the theater blamed Nina Hagen's fans. As it turns out, the guilty parties were the nuns.
It doesn't feel like Batman does anything in this story. It's mostly monologues about the made up history of Be-Bop. Until the scat gimmick villains pop-up, and then it just ends.
Wait, this is in uptown, and it's a story about music.....maybe Batman should have been attacked by Burno Mars and the other guys from the Uptown Funk music video.
In terms of the emitter, you could always have Jaeris contact Linkara via video message and send the emitter to him via dimensional matter transport or something.
Maybe he hasn't thought of this before? When he is Batman there are only people around that like him or hate him. Has he ever run across someone that is generally unimpressed by him?
Back in the Tin Pan Alley days, 1910s I think, no one really owned the music they made, musicians just sold off songs they came up with and it basically became public domain, leading to people taking the songs for their own with some changes and such, or adapting it to fit their own music.
There has only been ONE time the hulking Batman worked for me in any media: DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, and there it was because Bruce Wayne had been retired as Batman for years, so he was older and out of shape. It made sense that he had put on a few pounds, even if it was all muscle since he wasn't doing parkour regularly anymore. BATMAN BEGINS is my favorite of the 3 Nolan movies too. Yes, DARK KNIGHT might be better, but BEGINS is more fun. I honestly haven't watched DARK KNIGHT since I first saw it because it's so intense and so dark that I can't really bring myself too. BEGINS is awesome. It's dark and hopeful, a story about a damaged person trying to make his home a better place even when other people don't believe it can be better, and the ending leaves us some hope that Bruce Wayne will be better himself one day. We get to see him assemble the costume and the reasons why he chooses his gear. We see his training and how it sculpted him as a crime fighter. We even get a pretty compelling look into Batman's head, so we can see why he doesn't kill people beyond the clichéd "Killing is always wrong" thing (Not that I don't think killing is bad, I just appreciate that some thought went into it here). Oh, yeah, and we don't see Batman brutalize a guy for information or maybe kill Two-Face. I don't remember how that final fight went down exactly.
Just so I've got it off of my chest 'the 'Blue Byrd' is likely a reference to Charlie "the bird" Parker. I might be off with the spelling (if it has an official spelling), but I'm quite certain it's him they're referring to.
Justice League Unlimited proved the Bat is partial to the Blues.
hah someone else saw that like i did
Cyril Makwembere That scene was better than this whole comic
Cyril Makwembere Am I bluuuuuuueee...
is that louis as a kid at 0:20 with mom and dad
Dave Minion Nope. My aunt, uncle, and my cousin.
"Politicians are just figments of our imagination"
If only we could be so lucky...
After what went down last couple of days at the Capitol building I wish that politicians were a figments of our imaginations
Linkara: *Talks about how Batman Fortunate Son may have failed as a tribute to Rock 'n Roll.*
Nostalgia Critic: *Takes notes on how to do the same for Pink Floyd*.
jbiehlable As they should
It's so funny he decided to tank any credibility left after the "change the channel" debacle
yeahhhhh still like the nostalgia critic but yeahhhhhhhh
Batman standing awkwardly hunched in the doorway is way funnier than it should be. XD
TPrower He looks like he's lost, doesn't he?
+TPrower What about having MOP! as a sound effect?
+1rhpsfan 26:20 Seriously check it out.
+TPrower Probably the funniest drawing of Batman featured on AT4W (with the possible exception of Bat-Bunny in Batman: Fortunate Son). Batman looks like he really REALLY doesn't want to be here.
Are sure that Batman doesn't have back problems or something? Being hunched over 79% of time isn't helping with being scary
I've played jazz for at least 8 years. There is no grand manifesto to understanding Jazz, it literally is as simple as you do or you don't. This comic is an insult to me as both a Batman fan and a Jazz musician.
@@jekblom123 Probably the progressions. Jazz is extremely technically precise. As well, if Buddy Rich is any indication, being a good jazz musician means taking the genre so seriously to the point of obsession and being a complete asshole about all other genres of music.
Greatest Quotes From Bad Batman Comics:
#4. "Damn you and your lemonade!" - Hal Jordan (All Star Batman and Robin #9)
#3. Every line is this comic
#2. "'Punk' is nothing but death and crime and the rage of a beast" - Batman (Batman: Fortunate Son)
#1. Children! Pull on your tights! -Batman (or Crazy Steve depending on who you ask) (The Dark Knight Strikes Again)
Zeke Payne Bees. My God.
Lucas Bell that's not a batman comic, it is a wonder woman comic
Best Batman quote was from an aweful Wonder Woman related event.
"Batman doesn't eat pie!" Robin (Damian Wayne), Batman 2017. I don't remember which issue.
What about "pigs from a gun"?
Has anyone ever commented about Linkara's ability to convey emotion for acting? He puts it in VERY good use here, specially as you can tell when Linkara the character realizes 'oh crap, I see why they were worried about me now' during Holokara's rant.
Linkara was literally listening to himself and realizing just how far he would've fallen had Margaret not shut off her magic as an intervention. And you can tell he was realizing this by his expression the entire time. It may have been acting, but it was very believable.
I've known some jazz musicians, and NONE of them are as pretentious and self-absorbed as the ones in this comic. If you can't dig, it's not your fault-sometimes bebop IS just noodling around, looking for what sounds right. It's improv.
+Tareltonlives Isnt' that music in general, really?
+RyutheWeredragon For the pretentious thing, yes. For the 'most of it is improv', not so much. I can't improvise for toffee though I can sight read well, though often if you're unsure exactly how a bit goes, you might just noodle through it, playing something fairly quiet that sounds about right.
I really like the jazz in both Persona 5 and Cowboy Bebop, which I've been told are representative of two diffferent kinds of Jazz. How's that?
In case you don't what either of those things are, I'm going to give you samples:
Cowboy Bebop Jazz - ruclips.net/video/T6zDfxZ4NcE/видео.html
Persona 5 Jazz - ruclips.net/video/0jm8nnHqx80/видео.html
That doesn't mean they didn't exist. Buddy Rich, one of the best jazz drummers ever, was ten times as pretentious and self-absorbed as any of the jazz musicians in this comic.
I always loved how Scott Pilgrim included the sheet music for the song they played with instructions to play it badly. I kinda wish more comics would do stuff like that or how the cartoon metalocalypse had one of the characters giving a guitar lesson.
I think both Batman and Bruce Wayne are both masks, the real him is what he's like in the batcave with Alfred and his sidekicks.
That works for Clark Kent, but not Batman. Bruce _is_ basically the same person in the cave as he is in the streets.
@@RabblesTheBinx it's also rather amusing to think how different they are. Bruce Wayne is a more amiable version of the Batman whereas Superman is Clark Kent's views to the nth degree. Or the other way round in the case of the latter, either works.
Just when I thought that the first meeting with Margaret would be the most heartwarming part of this arc. The team bonding here is right up there with the fantastic "You didn't think you were in this alone, did you?" scene. Marvelous stuff as always, thank you.
Better idea for a comic, Batman vs Giant Dizzy Gillespie! Make it happen!
Could be worse Linkara...
Could be Rock'n'Roll!
...
Or bees...
My god
KidSnivy69
I AM A MAN!
PyrusCreed IT'S A CRACK BABY FOOL!
OH GOD NOT THE BEES, NO NOT THE BEES!!
Bees, my god
Where's this idea that Jazz is an expression of pain come from? I guess it can, but that's true for Rock, Rap, Classical, even Country, and especially Blues. Are the writers suggesting that Parker was a genius BECAUSE his tragic life instead of DESPITE it? You ain't Ray, comic!
I’d estimate maybe one third of country music consists of heartbreak music
I agree with your interpretation of the whole Secret Identities of Batman and Superman. Actually I find it fascinating that in the DCAU episode "world's finest" Lois Lane's love interest drives towards two "masks" Superman and Bruce Wayne but doesn't think much of the two "real" people, Clark Kent and Batman.
25:46-25:57 I think I can translate: "Who's that bat, guy? That bat guy is freaking out..." something something "I guess these guys aren't cool, guy!" "A guy can't be cool if he doesn't scat (with us?) when he sees the Brothers of the Bop!"
It is my headcanon that the Bluebird from this comic is one of Harper Row’s favorite music artists
It is funny though how now we live with Batman seeing rock music in the Lego Movie
The comic is partially correct. The origins of Bebop essential stemmed from the likes of Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker, as well as a few others, but "Blue Byrd" is referring to Charlie Parker's nickname "YardBird", Blue Byrd is made up for the comic, so that's probably why nothing could be found about it.
GrandAce Huh i guess it wasn't really important to the review but yeah as off shortly after the review aired in 012 he found that out since this is a 3 part miniseries and as of this year he has reviewed all parts.
Ahh gotcha!
Personally It should have had some kind info even as a just a section or notes. Just in case people reading wanted to learn more about the subject could look it up.
+GrandAce I was gonna mention the Blue Byrd = Charlie "Bird" Parker connection but Linkara said to check the comments first. looks like it never hurts to do that.
17:46 " listen to Willy Little, he's here occasionally, we can't actually tell you when though, he just shows up and we stop everything so he can do his thing"
To me though these kind of bits are the reason why I feel THIS storyline is the best of the show so far. As imposing as characters like Vyce and the Entity are, Holokara's speech not only serves as a good counter point to Linkara, but to the entire show in general: as much as Linkara dislikes and hates comic books and wishes he could change and alter what happened in them, he doesn't. Even when he has the supposed power to do so. And not just because he doesn't want to abuse his power or force over others but in the believe of the good of humanity and of the creative force. And that by trying to control a story no matter how right your "intentions" are it doesn't make you any better then the one you're ralling against for what they do to a character. I really like the two's back and forth for how much it does make Holokara feel like a force with his own persona besides just "seemingly evil Linkara" as well as how Lewis's character responds to it. And really just like how talking down the entity made more sense then fighting it, proving Holokara was wrong was more important then fighting it. I also really like the wrap up with everyone as well: I guess it is a bit too quick (and I always found it weird how Linkara just sorf of shrugged off 90's Kid "dude he reached into my heard and squeezed it like a madball" comment) but it works and honestly shows how the side characters have developed into more then just quirky one dimensional other variations of Linkara but as their own characters which we'd see even more of in the next part of the story arc. It's all very well written stuff that really shows how far Lewis has come as a writer on his own series. And honestly makes me even more exited for the movie which supposedly has even more moments of the other characters though interacting with CA producers. Though that reminds me since I rewatched Linkara's review of the AVGN movie: does the AT4W pass the Bechdel test? Hoping it does.
DianaGohan It's why it was so important to get Linkara back for the Halloween storyline. Having the shadow creature screwing with their heads doesn't make sense for Holokara and allowed all of their boiling resentments and feelings to come to the surface.And yep, while of course it is not the ultimate barometer of whether a piece is feminist or not, I made sure the movie passed the Bechdel Test. ^_^ While the majority of the film has all the characters in a room together or separated into their own subplots, there is a scene where MarzGurl, Obscurus Lupa, and Nimue are all talking to each other about a battle strategy.
CruelestChris Uh, duh. I don't know why you said that when I was pointed out liking this part of the AT4W story. I never said it was out of control or something so your comment no offense doesn't really seem to have a point.
Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall "Having the shadow creature screwing with their heads doesn't make sense for Holokara and allowed all of their boiling resentments and feelings to come to the surface"- Also thinking about it was a natural progression for when the team finally formulated a plan to take down Holokara they'd enact it. And honestly if Linkara didn't come in, I don't think Holokara would of just let them all get away either so it not only made sense for the story, but safety of the characters."And yep, while of course it is not the ultimate barometer of whether a piece is feminist or not, I made sure the movie passed the Bechdel Test"- Good to hear. And yeah I know it isn't but again rewatching your review of the AVGN movie and I noticed you were asking whether or not that movie passed the Bechdel test so it made me think "hmmm hope we don't have to ask that question of Lewis's movie." Cause thinking about it, honestly the only TGWTG anniversary movie that even passed the Bechdel test was To Boldly Flee and yeah, though I still enjoy it, that has some... questionable at best scenes in it with some of the female characters.
CruelestChris Yeah I know man. Hell I make fanfiction myself so I don't have a problem with people taking stories that exisit and adding onto them and doing their own thing as those can be even more creative or interesting. Just saying I really liked what Linkara did here with this story.
@@AT4W What's the bechdel test?
Great now I'm imagining that Batman has a version of Spider Sense that plays jazz whenever he is in danger.
"Cantaloupe Island?! That can only mean my old nemesis, Killer Croc, is nearby!"
I will say that Holokara has an excellent point. Shitty writers have proven time and time again that they do NOT know how to properly handle the characters that they are given. HOWEVER. I surmise that as bad as those comics are, I think that, to a degree, we need comics like that. We need One More Day, we need Cry for Justice, we need Countdown and Ultimatum. Why? Because they show us the worst of comics so future comic book fans and writers know what to avoid and what to expect. We need to know what half-assed stories, half-assed characters, shock value deaths, horribly corroborated story lines and just generally bad comics look like, even with good elements and good histories, so we know how to make them better and to keep them on the right path.
renwulf16 We get it. Squirrel Girl's comic exists hurts your feelings.
renwulf16 Again, we get it. Squirrel Girl's title existing hurts your little feelings.
Spencer McClure dude that comment actually made me feel good
Loy Turns Still nothing clever to say except repeating what you just said 😄. Fuck off.
renwulf 16 squirrel girl is awesome
A good Batman story I've come accross that's centered around Jazz (kinda) is 'The Devil's Trumpet' from Batman: Black & White. (Before someone asks, it's not inked in anything but black and white, hence the title. It's a short story compilation.)
It's about a Trumpet that a famous musician supposedly made the devil envious and made him claim his soul. The ending is the best part of the story, it's very short but the build up i great.
14:03
I do not think Batman is shocked because he never reflected about that aspect of himself.
He is shocked by how easily someone else noticed that.
This comic should have been:
Seinfeld!Bee: Hey, d'ya like JAZZ?
Batman: Bees. My god.
is it bad that whenever they say Bebop in this comic I keep waiting for them to mention Rocksteady?
Fun fact: "Rocksteady" is another type of music closely related to jazz, ska, and reggae.
Nieru well what do you know
@@autobotproductions1244 yeah, there are more puns and references in TMNT character names than in Dragon Ball.
I keep picturing a certain spaceship housing a certain quartet of bounty hunters
Not at all
"Ringside table, Batman?"
"Just looking, thanks, I'll stand at the bar. I shouldn't wish to attract attention."
This writer sounds like the kind of guy who thinks that "today's music will never be as good as the music of the past".
@@geoffreysorkin5774 While whining in a doofy voice!
In fact after thinking over things a bit...Batman Fortunate Son finally clicked. Mainly....it’s the writers being mega-boomers about those damn kids today listening to punk music rather then gold days of rock
And well hes not wrong
he's (mostly) right.
@@plasticweapon I don't think he is. We're all just getting old and are expecting popular music to be the music that defines what music of the times is...which isn't always true.
"Is there another word out there that means what?" I dunno Linkara you could always use the tried and true over dramatic "NANI!?!?!?"
Those speeches at the end after the review, I felt 'em.
14:36 -
I like your interpretation on the secret identities of Batman and Superman. I find it ironic because, my father's interpretation is actually the reverse. He believes that Superman is the greatest Super Hero ever, because his persona is not his super-identity is not a disguise - and therefore when he is in combat, he has nothing to hide.
He reasons that, because Superman is Kryptonian, Kal-El is his TRUE identity, whereas Clark Kent is actually his disguise while on earth.
Granted, my dad never was one for seeing the "big picture." He doesn't really comprehend that Superman...wasn't always a man. While he's true that his true origins dictate that he is Kal-El...that doesn't change that he was raised to be Clark Kent; it's not like he entirely abandons his upbringing by his human parents when he becomes Superman (nor is that life just a facade).
25:46-25:57
Marik: *YOU'RE NOT EVEN SPEAKING ENGLISH AT THIS POINT!*
@17:50 about a jazz club being popular around election time I think it's talking about politicians trying to pander to African Americans? I know it's a stretch, but it's all I got
Mike White that was my thoughts as well.
I agree, they do it alot, go to a culturally significant place to try and sell themselves as of the people, like all the presidential hopefuls eating street food in NY this year
Probably a reference to Bill Clinton, who was president, at the time, and also an accomplished jazz saxophonist.
Nieru oh that makes sense
Uh, Holokara, blowing up Marvel Entertainment (and DC Entertainment would be next I assume) won't end half-done reboots, retcons, or any of the other problems with writing stories in shared universes.
You do raise a good point about one thing. Many comic book characters like Superman, Spider-Man, and others have in a way, become our modern day mythology. They're kept alive through people writing stories about them. And not just from their official creators and owners. Fans write their own stories and make their own comics with them, too.
Superheroes have the power to inspire, and people will still write stories and adventures for them. The thing is, Holokara, there are probably people out there who do like One More Day. I'm not one of them, but I'm sure there are, stories are subjective. There are people who will continue to make stories based on the retcons and reboots you hate because to them, they were good ideas, good stories, or things that got them interested in the characters they like in the first place. Comic books and the stories within, like any other art form, is subjective. What may be hated by one person, may be a great story to another.
+Loy Turns he said he'd give them an ultimatum to make comics good by his own standards, and if they fail, THEN he's blow them up.
laz kar
there are people who like the works of Perfect Lionheart; there must exist some people in the world who like that mess; Neal Adams, for instance
This hologram needs to come back. Here's a cool thing you could do: Some other villain scavenges through Linkara's deleted files or whatever, and finds the lost code for the hologram, reconstructing it, partially. Then, it returns, and beats up Linkara, whilst we don't see the character's face, and then locks Linkara away. Then for the next weeks, the Hologram is running the show, and to make sure no one notices, he uses a different server to project himself. Also, at the beginning of his first episode he starts with: "Oh, don't worry about that, I took care of it... so anyways,". Also, to hint that it's the hologram, we see it malfunction a few times, projecting improperly, and glitching up sometimes. Of course, the other characters take notice and look into it while the Hologram's power recharges. Once it does, he shows his evil intentions once more. By now, the characters have spotted where the actual Linkara is, though not entirely sure it's him, since all they're going by is a faint distress signal since the hologram removed any tracking devices Linkara may have had, except some simple bit of technology. When they all return, with Linkara in hand after they free him, the Hologram and whatever villain Resurrected him, perhaps vice, fight the heroes. At this time, Linkara is in no condition to fight, as he's been malnourished for some time, only staying alive to do some spell. After that, Pollo and Dr. Linksano figure out how to disable the hologram, overwriting the code many times to make sure it never returns.
I just love that you lumped Blue Beetle in with Xmen and Superman
4:09- Speaking as a christian myself, and a Batman fan, I love rock & roll, and so does the rest of my family. Screw you, propaganda spewers.
Batman in this comic is also as musclebound as he was in The Dark Knight Returns. Say what you will about the Batsuit in the DC Extended Universe, but it wasn't bizarre like this.
31:35- Holokara should fit right along with the Facebook group known as "Down with Disney's Treatment of Franchises and its Fanboys."
Dude, are you saying that Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm HAVEN’T shat all over the Star Wars legacy? Because they definitely have.
Batman bleeds on the cover like he was a fighter in Mortal Kombat with the blood set to MAX (it was a thing in Deadly Alliance, Deception, & Armageddon, though I'm not sure that option is still available in the newer titles)! Seriously, fighters in those MK games could bled so much when the setting was at max, that the Vampiress Nitara would never go hungry!
Y'know what's weird? That Nelson Riddle was probably mentioned because he wrote the 66 Batman.
10:08-10:13 Honestly, the best joke in this review. Kudos, Linkara!
The beautiful ending and swelling heroic track in the end with the five characters, saying that they are united.
As of the time of this post, Fist of the North Star came out. Linkara has verbally attacked ALL of the people he cares about and 90's Kid takes off with Vice.
Hindsight, a zinger.
I don’t really follow the storyline stuff
Well, that went from dumb to complete goddamn gibberish pretty freaking fast
It's baffling when people do stuff like this, vilify rock and roll and say they love it, make Jazz look bad and still say they love it, and those other writers that did Identity Crisis that say they love the Silver Age and made it as a tribute, but then make it a really dark gritty depression comic that has nothing to do with the Silver Age. I really can't seem to wrap my head around this. It makes no sense, how does someone attend one thing, then make the opposite like this?
Don't worry, Gerard Jones is in jail now. He won't bother our music anymore.
32:34 Sad thing reality sometmes wroks like that depending on context.
Both this comic and fortunate son have this problem of loving classic to the point of hating the modern
25:59 Perfect Sound Bite.
"Maybe you'll learn that you're Batman and you should have swung on to keep patrolling."
Gonna disagree with you there. Some really great moments in Batman TAS where the little moments where he stops to talk to the random people he saves or helps. There's nothing wrong with stopping to make sure people are okay and showing a little humanity to them.
You know, when it's well written and in the service of a good story. This is fiction after all.
I love these Scat poetry talking weirdos but they should be in a cartoon or an animated film, they are way too cool to be in a Batman Comic.
this is definitely one of my favorite reviews.
Hearing 'itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini' over the title card made my night
XD
16:29 you know what’s really hilarious (to me, at least) about the idea of velcro being invented by aliens? The person who invented velcro was inspired by a microscope viewing of burrs, i.e. those little round things you pick up on your clothes when you go on walks through our nice, Earthly woods! Velcro is a VERY human invention 😊
plant. v plant invention
Like music?
I know it was just for a gag, but I REALLY liked how he referred to Batman's theme in TAS as THE theme for the character.
Just saw a report that this comics writer, Gerard Jones, was sentenced to six years in jail for child pornography possession. Ick...
Holy shit this took a turn. I only heard about Gerard Jones through these weird musical episodes...
🤢
19:00 I guess we now know that Crazy Steve has a thing for Jazz.....
For a quick out, you could argue that nothing the hologram did was against the subroutines of nimuhe. Repositioning yourself, not evil. Target these places, not evil. Actually firing, then she would disobey, because that would violate her program.
But that's just my interpretation of things.
I like smooth jazz. I was crushed when the radio station that played smooth jazz in my area went off the air in 2010. However, it has since returned, so I continue to listen to it again. I also listen to it as study music.
I love that You're not doing the "Dr. Linksano is planning betrayal" thing Because I like him as part of the comicron crew
I think you mean Chaotic Neutro...hehe...heeeh....sorry.
Ted Pysh so Linksaino is like Peridot of the group
I really liked Holo-Linkara's monologue about comics. I stopped reading modern comics before _One More Day_ , but I felt the same way when they killed Ted Kord (Blue Beetle was *my* favorite too, although I suspect you're more a Jaime Reyes guy).
Yeah... the emitter... All I have to say about that plot thread is...
OUPS. :P
"And the seeds of evil are planted." Gunna hafta keep that line in mind.
And so, my favorite arc from this show comes to a close. We've come full circle, after going on his journey, Linkara's growth as a person out weights his holographic counterpart's stubbornness. I don't know about anyone else reading this, but I think Lewis has made progress by improving the comic book industry with his reviews. Just to name an example, a few months after his 600th episode, Marvel DID try to reverse Sins Past. Now, while it COULD just be a coincidence, I'd like to think otherwise.
Well it's funny they bring up Nelson Riddle because he composed the theme to the Batman 60s show.
I can't wait for Batman: Country Western! And if you tell me that is actually a thing, I may have to scream.
Anyone else get a brief flash of Nimue when Finevoice was talking around the 34:00 mark?
3:25: Ironically the most METAL thing I've ever read ever.
My...best guess as to the “rock tribute” thing in Fortunate Son is maybe it’s the creators being massive boomers and saying only classic rock is good and disregarding punk and other newer rock “because it was better on my Earth!” ,but that’s just guess work.
11:10 BTAS music. good choice.
I've recently gotten into jazz, but just the older stuff like Bing Crosby and Cab Calloway. Smooth jazz and free-form jazz never sounded right to me.
These characters seem like the types who'd freak out if you started playing Miles Davis, especially On the Corner (a jazz-funk album despised by jazz critics and loved by other critics).
The cover feels like the cover for an issue 2 seeing how this one ends
Watching Linkara's rant on the rock 'n roll comic reminded me of this: back when my mom worked as Tour guide for the Therese Carreño Theater there were several big events. But here is one, Nina Hagen the pope John Paul II were coming. The chairs of the hall ended pretty damaged, the theater blamed Nina Hagen's fans. As it turns out, the guilty parties were the nuns.
Why didn't batman pay the cover with the batman credit card?
a Bat CREDIT CARD???? ruclips.net/video/mIxRWS2HR7Q/видео.html
It doesn't feel like Batman does anything in this story. It's mostly monologues about the made up history of Be-Bop. Until the scat gimmick villains pop-up, and then it just ends.
Lol I love how easy it was for linkara to just deactivate holokara. Kinda reminds me of Indy and the swordsman in raiders of the last ark
Lol so true
When are you going to review Batman: Polka?
Stay for the sketch its a good one
Wait, this is in uptown, and it's a story about music.....maybe Batman should have been attacked by Burno Mars and the other guys from the Uptown Funk music video.
Uptown Funk you up, Uptown Funk you up...
Nah. Billy Joel.
In terms of the emitter, you could always have Jaeris contact Linkara via video message and send the emitter to him via dimensional matter transport or something.
I can see a Batman series with mostly Jazz music playing in most of the soundtrack.
Charlie Parker's estate should sue.
wait... wasn't Dewey brothers a car dealership? or am i just thinking of la noire again?
"He's playing dubstep with a saxophone!"
26:00 Some I've heard of are "¿Que?" "Wot?" and "Nani?!"
Now I need Batman Djazz
Batman canonically is a fan of The Clash
So he's a fan of British Punk? I think he also likes Iron Maiden. Nice.
&:02 It's the Hulk in Batman cosplay with the Spider-Man logo on his chest!
Maybe he hasn't thought of this before? When he is Batman there are only people around that like him or hate him. Has he ever run across someone that is generally unimpressed by him?
Linkara please review the Batman brave and the bold episode where a villain pretty much trapped batman in a musical
Never gonna happen unless someone pays for it on Patreon. He's stated many, _many_ times that he _only_ does non-comic reviews if he's paid to.
29:50 - Basically a portion of Marvel fans after watching Infinity War
Nah most realize things will get fixed....now if you said that about the Star Wars movies.....well then lol
@@jfdrac Yeah, some things were fixed. ...Not all of them, though.
Back in the Tin Pan Alley days, 1910s I think, no one really owned the music they made, musicians just sold off songs they came up with and it basically became public domain, leading to people taking the songs for their own with some changes and such, or adapting it to fit their own music.
Uptown huh? So does that make the old man’s music..... Uptown Funk
There has only been ONE time the hulking Batman worked for me in any media: DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, and there it was because Bruce Wayne had been retired as Batman for years, so he was older and out of shape. It made sense that he had put on a few pounds, even if it was all muscle since he wasn't doing parkour regularly anymore.
BATMAN BEGINS is my favorite of the 3 Nolan movies too. Yes, DARK KNIGHT might be better, but BEGINS is more fun. I honestly haven't watched DARK KNIGHT since I first saw it because it's so intense and so dark that I can't really bring myself too. BEGINS is awesome. It's dark and hopeful, a story about a damaged person trying to make his home a better place even when other people don't believe it can be better, and the ending leaves us some hope that Bruce Wayne will be better himself one day. We get to see him assemble the costume and the reasons why he chooses his gear. We see his training and how it sculpted him as a crime fighter. We even get a pretty compelling look into Batman's head, so we can see why he doesn't kill people beyond the clichéd "Killing is always wrong" thing (Not that I don't think killing is bad, I just appreciate that some thought went into it here). Oh, yeah, and we don't see Batman brutalize a guy for information or maybe kill Two-Face. I don't remember how that final fight went down exactly.
This was the first AT4W episode I watched.
25:42 Is By Far THE BEST PART OF THE REVIEW:XDDDDDDDDDD"
and thus ends the "mini-saga" (as I have just now unofficially dubbed it) of the Hologram Saga.
oh, Jesus. Here we go again.
Just so I've got it off of my chest 'the 'Blue Byrd' is likely a reference to Charlie "the bird" Parker. I might be off with the spelling (if it has an official spelling), but I'm quite certain it's him they're referring to.
This sounds like an otherwise bad noir story about jazz that somehow has Batman in it