Batman: Jazz #2 - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at the second issue of Batman: Jazz!
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Originally uploaded June 9th, 2014.
ORIGINAL INFO: This entire endeavor will be a failure if we don’t see Batman playing a saxophone at some point.
RUMINATIONS: Viga was in town for a month or two during this episode. Aside from doing the ice effect of the previous episode, I thought of a neat little “I am a Man” gag for her by grabbing the My Little Pony comic, showing us, for the first time, what the hell happens on the other side of the punch. As for anything else in the story... well, this one speaks for itself.
So to paraphrase the opening of Crimson Peak: "This is not a Batman story. This is a story with Batman in it."
Well said.
So, whereas Doug Moench's stories glorify Batman to the point where stories that don't even have him somehow _still_ have him, _Fortunate Son_ and _Jazz_ are pretty much Batman In Name Only, just barely keeping him connected.
Also, love how we see the extent of the 'I Am a Man' punch. XD
Batman (Linkara): "Okay Robin, in this variation of scenario 46-D, a jazz demon will launch shards of glass out of his saxophone at me."
Robin (Linkara): "Okay. Batman, this is getting ridiculous!"
Batman (Linkara): "Shut up, Robin! This is totally possible! Now, in scenario 47-A, a super-intelligent emu will use its psychic powers to mind control me..."
To be fair, they're all extremely possible in the DC universe.
5:58 he punched reality so hard his hand went to another location in space and time... Oh my God... Linkara has turned into... SUPERBOY PRIME!!!
Daniel Diaz No, he's not nearly whiny enough.
Everything was better with his old outfit!
You either die, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain...
His powers are evolving.............
"I am a MAN!" god i love that joke
+David Escalante And the punch lol
Who was the woman he stole that MLP comic from? If she reviews those comics normally, I'll have to look her up.
Did I? Nah, just fiancé right now.
I imagine you got a lecture on stealing a comic from her in the middle of a review lol
We always need more "I AM A MAN!"
"My computers don't help. I went home, played World Of Warcraft for 3 hours, and I'm still no closer to the truth!!" That's a mood, Batman!
There's trouble in Gotham City. That's a capital T and that rhymes with B and that stands for BATMAN!
Music Man. Love it.
Batman taking on the villain from Last Action Hero sounds like a good idea for a parody comic.
Jazz and Fortunate Son were actually early secret attacks by the Music Meister!
I WISH
"I can't shoot you through the camera."
Well, I mean, I guess it's good to know the magic gun has limits, but that seems like a weird one.
At least we find out where he is reaching to in those "I am a man" moments. He opens up a tear in the fabric of reality creating a rift in time and space.... or he has a saucy black woman sitting on the couch next to him that he keeps snatching things from. Either or.
+Shiirow Didn't he once grab Vyce out of there by accident? What review was that?
he also hit doc linksano and accidentally took the longbox from (and pleas correct me if I spell this name wrong) mouarte
Or reaches through reality to a saucy black woman not far from him.
“Batman: Hip-Hop Hero”?
So a crossover with Parappa the rapper? Nice.
Three years later: ruclips.net/video/DoIrmLrpdo0/видео.html
**archive binging while being semi-up-to-date with Linkara in present day**
Oh, hey, it's Viga! :-)
I kind of want to see a Batman version of The Music Man actually. Hearing Batman sing “76 Trombones” would be great.
YES
question: was the guy who invented bebop a cowboy?
Was his name Spike?
Dan Mount may have been Jet.
Was he at his computer?
get out
see ya space cowboy
So Batman is defeated by bad weed and the Changeling army is defeated by cake batter. I give up.
You know what else got beaten like cake batter?
The Spider Clones in MAXIMUM Clonage.
@@battlion507 Speaking of things that don't make any sense
You know, I love the fighting with music trope
I was getting sick of this crap already, but when the writers threw in a quick jab at artists who sample music, I lost all patience. These writers are pretentious music history snobs who take analyzing music way too goddamn far. From an outsider's perspective, what's happening here is that Blue Byrd is a rather messed-up person who's too self-absorbed because of his music and the inherent "meaning" behind it because everyone else is too entranced by it to see clearly, and as a result he did some horribly self-serving things, particularly faking his own death and leaving his family and friends behind, that everyone he directly harmed and neglected is giving him a free pass on because they're too entranced by the music's "message" too see the situation clearly.
....so, in other words, he's the Jazz-musician version of Goku. Oh, SNAP!
He's capable of doing this one thing apparently so wonderfully that everyone around him takes way too goddamn seriously that they forgive him for all of his crap, unable to realize that their lives are being ruined for the exact reason that they're all spending too much time psychoanalyzing musical interpretations and not enough time living their goddamn lives
....yeah, didn't this happen in Batman: Fortunate Son, too? Linkara mistook the entire thing as an indictment against musical culture because everyone in that comic was acting dangerously insane for *precisely the same reason*: spending more time thinking about musical interpretation than living in reality? You know, that same thing that the writers are apparently really in to and what drove them to write these comics containing these characters that do this thing?
....Ya know, at some point, you have to wonder if this is not about Batman and is more about a round-about cry for help.
It does have that self-preachy quality that hangs around works by artists with mental problems and waaaay too much investment in their bullshit. NGE, Cerebus the Aardvark and the Adventures of Sonichu are interesting comparisons, as they have that quality too. You gotta wonder how these writers are doing now. And now I have another entry on my "crazy bastards' weird fanfiction" list (should I be scared that I can narrow it down into a Top 10)
z1pper intheback None of that fits with Goku.
It does in so far as Goku is obsessed with fighting. For example when the Namekian Dragon is given a wish to teleport Goku to Earth he says no. Why? Because he was busy learning cool techniques from an alien race and exploring his Super Saiyan capabilities. Rather than you know... go back home with his wife and son and be a family man. Similarly when he's dead after Cell killed him, he gets a chance to come back to Earth for a day. What does he choose to spend it on before everything goes to hell? Not say, helping guide his son, or reconnecting with his wife, or anything like that. Nah. It's to participate in the World Martial Arts Tournament so he can have fun. Heck even take the fight against Cell. It's up to Piccolo to tell Goku that he has massive fucked up and is going to get his son killed because his son isn't a combat maniac who is going to unleash his untapped potential just because a good fight is being offered. While Goku went first just so he could indulge in the best fight of his life before handing it off to his son.
The comparison fits because Goku is to fighting what Blue Byrd in this comic is supposed to be to Jazz. Someone who based his entire life around it. Is consumed by it. Is some natural genius at it without compare... and who even if they might be a good person at heart will completely drop and fail people just for the sake of indulging in it. More akin to drug addict behavior of self destructive choices and failing everyone around them to get their fix.
5:64 *THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL HOUSE!, THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE!*
15:11 Thank you ma'am, that narrows it down to only the vast majority of Earth's population.
One of those videos you see the title of and cannot possibly avoid immediately clicking on
Linkara ever thought about reviewing Azrael's time as Batman, and discuss how he's a Deconstruction of the Comic 90's Action Hero? I'm interested in your opinion on the subject.
He should also review "Kingdom Come ". It is both a deconstruction of the dark age of comics and a reconstruction of the Golden and silver age of comics.
Well with Patron he'll be able to do both of those things if you pay him to.
"A super intelligent emu will use its psychic powers to mind control me."
I'm almost certain that actually happened at some point.
Comment from the Future: 2019 I resently came upon these old reviews an decided to give a watch and i do enjoy them." ;3
Weirdly enough i read a Moon Knight comic where similar weird picasso villains showed up.
doesnt matter
What comic was that?
3:18- And stuff like that is shown in the DC Extended Universe, like when he used the exocskeleton suit and kryptonite smoke grenades in his fight with Superman.
12:24- I'm perfectly okay with Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, because it's about arguably the greatest American president fighting vampires. I haven't read the book, but I HAVE seen the movie, and it was pretty good.
So this hole time when he does the "I AM A MAN" he has just been stilling his fiancé's stuff lol that makes the joke funner when u rematch some of the stuff that he has grabbed.
In his DVD review of Captain Flash, he wound up with a Portal Gun. Wonder where Viga got that?
Not quite....or she has some splaining to do about Why both Linksano and Lord VYCE were at her house
To use an old Bad Movie Beatdown phrase- SYMBOLISM!!!!!
THIS COMIC BLOWS!
"SAXMAN"
*jazz sting*
It says something that I'm not sure if the super intelligent emu is a reference to an actual comic or not.
14:11 Sampling is usually done with permission, old man.
batman is back at it again.
+kathy phillips Don't you mean "bat" at it again?
+kathy phillips with the white vans. (I'm so sorry)
+kathy phillips Damn Batman!
19:50 too bad this came out 5 years ago. Apparently the first sound Batman liked from him was a Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion single.
I really hope it's the Music Meister. Otherwise I'm going to be very disappointed.
Girlfriend cameo!
+slackergirl123477 And now FIANCE CAMEO! 8D
+TianaSidhe Aww!
+slackergirl123477 It's adorable
Actually, now it's wife cameo@@TianaSidhe
Not girlfriend, wife now
1:07. WRONG! Everyone knows it was 2 terrible parents and then much later, Shredder and Krang that made the Bebop we know today.
Fun fact:
In the minute 13:15 it can be read the words Mr. Bloom, funnily this is the name of a new Batman Villain in the new 52.
8:34 You know that would be a funny elseworld story. Batman: The Conspiracy Theorist
His name is the Question lol
I'm with you, someone needs to make a saxophone that doubles as a glass blower
Something just occurred to me about this comic. The old man in this is meant to be that 'Whiteman' guy that the Rap Critic brought up in the Vanilla Ice review.
Didn't recall that "I am a man" joke in this one. Neat to see stuff I don't recall in older episodes
Okay... in between his career as a comic book writer and his current status as an inmate of the state of California for child pornography, Gerard Jones was- among other things- a music critic. I believe he dabbled in music himself as well. But here's the thing that has started to irk me as I watch this review... and Fortunate Son: The idea of 'the special artistic genius who is almost unearthly good at it are the only ones who are really people not in spite of how creepy the world thinks they are... but because of it'. You see it a lot with well... people with Jones admitted predilections. Now, it's not as creepy here as it is in some of Gerard Jones other work. He didn't create the idea of Hal and Arisia being a couple, he did get them back together and this time she was back to her 'true age'. And there was a lot of icky in stuff in his run on Prime if I remember correctly. Not it's not as blatant as a Victor Salva movie... but it in hindsight it is all kinds of 'I need to vomit!'
Oh.. and the irony... some of Jones best received non-fiction was a true crime book. Oh the irony.
That actually makes sense. That kind of psychopath would definitely have the ego to yell "I'M JUST LIKE CHARLIE PARKER!"
This is 10 years old. I feel old.
The art for this comic proves that there is a market for "What the fuck is this.".
So Duchess, did you never get into other Jazz artists after Bird died? Louie Armstrong didn't appeal to you? Or Miles Davis? Or John Coltrane? Or Thelonious Monk?!! God this woman is so pretentious! Oh, and "expose the dark soul of this country"? I've listened to Charlie Parker's Sessions album, and there was no expression of sorrow and shame in there. I mean for gods sake, Coltrane break through record was a covers album titled 'My Favorite Things' and Louie Armstrong's biggest hit was a show tune. How are they expressions of depression and the darkness of the soul?
24:00 Do my eyes deceive me, or was that a MLP Comic you had there?
+Joe The Pegasus Eeyup. Cake batter stops the Changelings.
***** Who knows, he just might Collab with both, and in PONY form!
He already did an MLP comic. Two of them even!
Is that an ad for a Candyman movie on the back of that Batman book?
Who in the right mind thought Batman and music went together? All well, guest they were stoned.
13:55 Who wants a Linkara See 'n' Say?!
Fictionalization of real life people is always going to be a tricky subject, but I'll give the comic credit that at least they didn't turn Charles Parker into a white person who revolutionized Jazz. Whitewashing sucks.
I haven't seen Forrest Gump, though in Marty's case at least it was meant to be a comedic moment.
Oh... well that does sound pretty bad.
Yeah, I'm not against the idea, as long as it's handled or executed well.
Though... Yeah, it can be easy to screw up.
@@kingofthegundam7974 That was an example of a paradox since Marty was only playing a song he learned from listening to Marvin Barry and Marvin was inspired by hearing Marty play one of HIS future songs.
1:11 Spoilers, It doesn't!
Weird to think how the Cartoon All-Stars could have fixed all this...why didn't they just listen to Alf and Michelangelo!?
I'm surprised Batman wasn't part of that show. Can you imagine him hanging around Bugs Bunny and Donald Duck's nephews?
I just noticed that Viga's MLP comic has an add for Transformers. That's Swoop on the back cover and I think I see a couple of his fellow Dinobots (Slag and Snarl, if I'm right) there too.
Yep! They'll frequently advertise other Hasbro properties. Apparently a few years ago there was a slightly memetic image going around of someone complaining about a My Little Pony ad on the back of their Transformers issue.
8:12
Ah yes, because the GCPD, known for it's corruption and godawful maintenance of their city, would _totally_ search for a random black man.
(I'm Black, btw. I'm just pointing out the Countess' train of logic is just plain stupidity.)
Batman vs. the Utah Jazz has to happen
Only if Batman dunks on Karl Malone !
@@Nr4747 I don't care for basketball and I'd still pay money to read that comic
Ok am i the only kne who wants to hear Harvey do jazz?
Oh, I'd love that
To be fair, even Kingdom Come isn't what one would call a Superman story. He's the main character and key to the story's themes (primarily passing values onto the next generation and the ways one should use amazing power) but it's also, for want of a better term, an "anthology." It's more of an intelligent deconstruction of superheroes and how power can corrupt but one should be altruistic.
The problem comes is that such a story needs a good focus like Kingdom Come or you get what happened here. Either focus on the main character or make a story that justifies the main character being essentially the audience self-insert (ie the one experiencing the events new like the audience). This and Fortunate Son are some of the worst examples of how badly doing it poorly can go.
6:10 well, he might be giant
Does Viga review mlp comics? If she does, i'd like to see them
Digging the Villains
He made that joke about warcraft....while i was playing wow. Ha
What do you thinkof Old Man Logan?
Oh, hey, there’s a Lil Petti plush on his shelf. Were those ever for sale?
Also, Batman saw the “glass” last issue before it even hit him, so yeah, he’s dead
Unfortunately not - the two I have are fanmade and wonderful. =)
*The following is the opinion of a Salty SEAGULL named EARL who just shows up in my posts whenever he feels like it!*
[EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] "So, BLUEBIRD is a PINBALL WIZARD, eh! Doubt he could beat MARSHALL THE PINBALL WIZARD of ADVENTURE BAY's PAW PATROL (seriously, I'd like to see BLUEBIRD, try to get a HIGH SCORE on the LOOKOUT's ELEVATOR, (which MARSHALL did purely by accidental elevator wipeout)!"
My first thought when you said cosmic ray: you mean the guy who I guess owns the starlight cafe in tomorrowland?
Yeah I'm a loser what of it?
I get the vibe that this outfit is heavily inspired by Malcom Reynolds from Firefly.
It seemed that you missed an opportunity to say the Goddamn Batman appropriately
This seems like something that should have been a short story in Batman Black and White, not a full fledged comic.
It was a story in Black & White (sort of.) While the story did revolve around jazz and a myth around a famous musicians trumpet, Batman was only really in it during the end. Still a great story though.
Owen Fournier Yeah I read that and it was done much better than this. Which is why I said it shouldn't be a full fledged comic.
linkara are you worried about one more day since there making civil war and civil war came right before one more day well in movie form?
Here’s the thing, this story could work as a music murder mystery. Let’s take this back to the drawing board. It’s Gotham City in 1947, Batman is out on patrol when a scream rings out in the night like a shrill violin. Batman runs over to the scream to find a small group huddling over a body, a jazz musician named Charles “Blue Bird” Birdside (In this version, he’s not the creator of Bebop, he’s just a good musician who got merked). Batman decides to solve the crime as he feels that there’s more to the murder. While investigating, a group of hitman posing as jazz musicians confront Batman and they get into a fight. After interrogating one of the thugs, Batman learns that Blue Bird once worked for Carmine Falcone. Bird was once an opium dealer and he decided to keep his share of the money instead of giving it to Falcone. Now much later in life, Falcone finally got to Bird. Batman confronts Falcone and interrogates him, stating that he may not be able to get him for his other operations but he can get him for murdering Blue Bird.
That was the return of queen chrysalis good but reflections is a bit better
I think the rhyming the Jazz demons due is related to a trope in DC Comics where rhyming demons are one of the lowest classes and they have to ear the right to speak......they can also get it as a punishment
Dc does release soundtracks for some books nowadays. I don’t get it at all.
Batman VS Wu Tang clan. Make this happen
+Mike White uk.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/03/jay-z-wu-tang-clan-batman-justice-league-of-america
You're welcome. XD
+LupineShadowOmega that just made my day 😎
Mike White I'm glad. ^_^
+LupineShadowOmega Ok now do Batman vs Godzilla.
+gerbill13 give him a week to prepare and I guarantee he can beat Godzilla
Linkara should review a comic that knocks off the Rob Liefeld style like gi joe extreme.
yea... you might want to reset and try to show some MERCY, sky
I like how the countess character keeps trying to make it a white/black racial thing. Where white musicians stole his music. So we then find out instead of being dead. He was studying modern composers.....in Europe. Kind of curious if that plays a part invthe story. Or was some real bqd oversite.
Which review did he cover that had the Grinch?
His review of Star Trek: The Next Generation #2.
Hey, I know it's the kind of mistake you said would be easy to make w/out a background in Jazz (and I'm really not trying to be pretentious like the writers of this Batman story are) but you played "Classical Gas" over the "Batman Jazz" intro... Eh what do I know, I'm just a third generation jazz/rock guitarist/vocalist who's grandad was a Luthier (that doesn't make me better than anyone, it simply gives me a solid background in these genres). And my family's not religious, so t's honestly a little bizarre when I hear someone doesn't know their modern music history because it was so inescapable for me growing up. Music probably served the place of religion for me... Feel free to ask where I got my morals from growing up; I think you'll be pleasantly surprised!
Isn't WAP that Cardi B song?
So, where was Robin during this time? Was there no Robin at the time? Did he just not show up for some reason?
+CheeseCrusader42 Maybe he was with the Titans at the time.
NU121493255
Perhaps, but I didn't think Dick Greyson was Robin at the time, he'd become Nightwing by then. I could be very wrong on this, but I think that is the case.
+CheeseCrusader42 Batman: Jazz was published in the mid 90s, I think. Tim Drake would be Robin then. Jason Todd was long dead, and Dick Grayson had been Nightwing for about a decade.
Did the superintelligent emu thing actually happen or was it just a joke you made up on the spot? Cause it's funny either way
Joke I made up.
...But I wouldn't put it past the Silver Age.
@@AT4W thanks
Did that Emu thing actually happen?
Who did your ending theme song, Linkara?
Well, I hope this means you're going to do an MLP comic.....
+Tareltonlives He can't put it off forever
Cringey?
+singing this'll be the day that I die A bit too late for that, I'm afraid. He got a Patreon request to do one, so we'll be getting it later this year.
A comic is a comic, and he'll review it whether it's My Little Pony or Transformers. He doesn't care if you find it cringey or not.
I saw! Yes!
how do you donut a comic?
Who's the mlp comic reviewer lady
Viga!
Ewwwwe Linkars did Scat.
Transparent aluminum
That's the ticket laddy
pointless scatting
So you're not a Brony then?
Do the Pokemon reburst manga it's messed up
+Weldedsord Check the site. :P
I'm sorry, but autotune is evil and needs to die.
REVIEW BERSERK!!!!!! JUST DO IT!!!!!!!
+José Hernández he said he doesn't like to review manga. So shouting in all caps won't help you :P
It never hurt´s.
+José Hernández actually, it hurts pretty often.
ha.
Only by patreon
I feel like Linkara would be persecuted for criticizing this comic today just for joking at a comic featuring violence against black people.