Carstairs SIREN G TEST! Carstairs Village's State Hospital Siren
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2019
- The July 2019 test of the Carstairs Village Secomak CS8 siren (better known as Klaxon CS8s despite being a Secomak design), designated as Siren G by the mrmattandmrchay State Hospital siren hunt.
On my tour of the sirens, I went around seeing them in a rather strange order, with the intention of seeing the Tesco Express in Carstairs after the test was complete (it passed at 13:26). We started in Lanark at Siren I before driving north all the way to Forth (siren A), continuing through Braehead (B) and Carnwath (C) before reaching Carstairs. We found D and then tried to see E unsuccessfully through the back of the hospital, via a fence near a meadow/common in the village, before continuing to this siren (G).
This video was only possible because of some well-timed good fortune. It was filmed by my older Canon Legria HFR57 (which has filmed a large number of videos on this channel), which was left in the driveway of a very kind homeowner whilst my dad and I went off to film the Ravenstruther siren, H.
After the test, the camera was safely collected and we headed to finish the tour at siren F (Carstairs Juncton/Station), where we bumped into mrmattandmrchay who'd decided to film that siren (more on that later!). A successful Tesco sighting later and we headed off back south.
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That pigeon made the right move !
Imagine going to Carstairs and not knowing about the sirens and you end up thinking you’re being bombed
Same applies to basically anywhere with sirens! You always get ‘your neighbors must love you’ comments on videos if you owned a siren yourself 😂
You can buy some old sirens off platforms such as eBay
You asked why you can/would own one, I’m saying the reason one can be bought is because they’re sold on eBay and other platforms and reasons why you would is exactly why videos like this one exist; people are interested in things and will buy things they’re interested in
Shit day
Funny 5ho
E. P. I. C. sounds like a carter. THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
Basically the same thing as a Carter 1H
All of the British dual head sirens sound the same because they all use the same 10/12 port ratio.
That is beautiful!! By the time it's reached full speed, it's already one minute and the sound it cut!! Very nice! I'm gonna give a link to this video in my next siren video at Forth (Climpy)
😂😂 nicely done Mr Xiong...
This one’s a beauty Matt- probably has a better wind up than Bagshot, at nearly twice the run up length... (and now it’s ringing in my ears as I type this comment 😂)
and that lady who happened to be staring oddly at you when you visited this siren was the one who later let me use her garden for camera security. Coincidences are real :p
I wish I had my own 😔😔
@@JerriS.I've found the hidden comment!
Awesome!
Awesome video! CS8s are my favorite.
Thanks! I think they’ve got a certain character about them- with the rattling when the shutters close and the rotors start to wind down. If I’m honest, Ravenstruther’s GP12 was a beast! (I filmed it but haven’t uploaded it yet)
I’m a big fan of yours btw :)
@@al66class59 Thank you! I've always loved the HI-LO sound of the CS8. If I ever got to choose a mechanical siren, it would be that. Though the chances of me getting one ever is about 0, so what I'll likely do in the far future is just get a 3T22 and have it rewound for 50hz, 3 phase, 2880RPM.
You’d probably also need to adapt the damper timings in order to create that slower hi-lo sound that’s characteristic of the CS8. It’ll be the closest you get without hopping over the pond!
@@al66class59 I'm pretty sure the RCM in a 3T22 can adjust the speed of the dampers, so I'd likely be able to control it like that, assuming it can go that slow. Otherwise, you are right.
It runs up nearly the same speed as it runs down!
I know right!!
In 1976 when I was 15 I spent 18 months in carstairs. Now I really am mad, ha,ha,ha.
Ah, ok. Must’ve changed a lot since 1976!
@al66class59 This Siren Has A Slow Startup Like The Bagshot Depot Siren Or MrMatts Favorite Siren From Broadmoor
Although I do not have a You Tube Channel, I am a siren enthusiast myself, I have Tornado Sirens from here in Jefferson County, Kentucky United States of America, 4 Federal Signal, & 1 Whelen (2-2001's, 1-Thunderbolt, 1-2T22 {Omni-Directional}, & 1 Whelen Vortex 4004).
Now THATS cool!
I did my training at an asylum in Essex and every friday the siren tests would happen. Different notes/playback for fire, riot on ward or escaped patient, us in nurses quarters off duty also had to assemble at assigned point to lend a hand in those emergency situations but were allowed to ignore the friday tests. I loved working in asylums and was very good at my job too but of course most were built on prime land and property maggots just itching to get abysmal housing estates on all of 'em.
Interesting! I suppose these sites probably have internal alarms for these scenarios, but some have external warning sirens too - like Carstairs.
Closure of places similar to this has put unnecessary pressure on the remaining sites to deal with everyone who needs psychiatric care, but unfortunately that’s how the world works now. Everything is financially motivated and care quality suffers as a result.
Really interesting tale, thanks for sharing it!
for a moment i thought my tinnitus was back
Very nice!
Thanks! (Sorry for late reply)
Love this video!
I was disappointed not to be able to hear a CS8 for myself but then again I wasn’t ever going to regret going to the Ravenstruther siren...
@@al66class59 The siren in this video is a CS8! Did you not record it yourself?
LEft the camera in the garden of a neighbour (as the video says I think)
Plus I’m afraid my next free Monday isn’t until October. I have plans to film this autumn’s Portsmouth Docks Test however- but I’m still yet to find where the sirens actually are!
@@al66class59 Same here! I WILL be there during half term, if not earlier!
mrmattandmrchay is the siren man
Well, was - he hasn't done much by way of recording them recently, but it's fair to say if it wasn't for his Broadmoor series I wouldn't have got into them!
I love all sirens, but the STH & STL 10s are my favorite! ☘️🤓
Ah, cool! I quite like those too
This one has got heating elements under the rotors
For cold weathers.
Wow what a great recording :)
I want to ask if I could use the audio for one of my videos to explain the siren signals of the State Hospital.
I would link your channel and name you in the video description. ^^
Yeah absolutely, go for it! Let me know when it’s out and I’ll take a look!
This is very weird - they start up a lot slower than Broadmoor and sound awesome! However Broadmoor is the only place you'll hear the high low.
This is the slowest of the lot. The majority of the others wind up pretty quickly- but still on average it’s a bit slower than Broadmoor.
@@al66class59 It's way slower!!! I love it!
apparently in Canada the nuclear plant in Ontario uses KLAXON CS8 sirens for hi lo. Also in Wales they use a CS6 and a CS8 for the hii lo but its more of a CUCKOO sound as one tone is longer than the other
i like this sound :D
this siren has somewhat ended up like Siren F because the high tone shutter is jammed open and the low tone shutter does pulse which it isn't supposed to do.
This siren sounds like it's on a VFD!
Yeah it does a bit! Would be interesting to find out why it runs up so slowly.
@@al66class59 Maybe the motor needs to be fixed.
COuld be, maybe it’s running on single phase supply, maybe something in the control box ha s broken... we’ll never know
me: *watching this video*
RUclips: control your music
oof XD
I think maybe to broadmoor hospital to many for sale cs8 sirens
This thing is an absolute brute! Probably just about pips siren D as my favourite!
Thanks! I was disappointed to not hear a CS8 myself, since I missed broadmoor on numerous occasions, but I have got to say Ravenstruther was by far the best experience of my life ignoring trains. What a magnificent sound to hear that thing rattle itself to bits 😂 (I filmed it obviously but haven’t yet uploaded- hopefully will soon)
al66class59 unpopular opinion but I’d sooner do this one than Ravenstruther. CS8s just have more character!
Fair enough, then again Ravenstruther is one you don’t want to miss-ever!
sounds like a carter.
Anything sounds relatively like a Carter if it spins at 2850rpm with a 10+12 stator hole combination. I can assure you that this one however is made by Secomak.
Sounds like a V8 engine slowing down
It does a bit! Or some old aircraft engine.
That's a pretty old siren. It sounds like it's been through a lot of trouble since the last few tests, over here in Broadmoor our klaxton's run the hi-lo tone and yours run the attack tone. Sadly we only have about 8 or 7 sirens left, so your lucky
Edit: it kinda sounds like a castle castings
This siren is roughly the same age as the CS8s on Broadmoor.
It too uses a special, one off signal- this isn’t attack, as that would be more of a constant wailing- not sure what this signal is called.
You’ll be disappointed to know there’s a maximum of three sirens left in situ at Broadmoor, and none of them work any more- the network was decommissioned in November.
@@al66class59 I know. Siren K got removed completely, but mrmattandmrchay got to see the shutters. And siren K is the one on the mall in Camberley
@@progenlol Yes, he saw the shutters of siren K, the car park siren, when it got removed. All sirens except for F, G and maybe M have been confirmed as removed (I'm guessing J has- nobody knows about that one)
This signal has never been used elsewhere as far as I’m aware so it probably wouldn’t have a proper title as such, but what do I know lol.
@Miguel Rodriguez fair enough. I've got no name for it and because I am not aware of any other networks to use this I tend to refer to it as the 'carstairs signal'. Rampton similarly uses a unique signal (45 on 15 off but varies based on how far the siren is from the hospital due to communication signal times) and that also has no official name.
2:04 is when it starts anyway great vid!
indeed, thanks
@@al66class59 np
@@al66class59 I tried using Google earth and I can't find them :(
If you use street view and look in the right places they’re easy enough to find
Do you know when these particular sirens were built?
not sure, as they were in production by secomak then klaxon from the early 50s right up until 2004. very difficult to give a precise date but id say late 70s-early 80s for these ones
@@al66class59 Wow! I thought they stopped making these in the 70s! I wonder if the GP8s are the same age, like the ones in Grays oil refinery.
@@transporttechnologykent5829 again they vary but id say probably similar
Oh good is not replace
if i its new year i use your video to record the siren in my sound box and i have freinds my freind car is noise and my record its full 9999999 volume i can.t heard
I miss CS8 Hope They Paint The CS8 New I Think Thats A Great Idea The grey colour is Old I think they need to paint it new right
For the hospital, as long as the siren works, the cosmetics don’t matter. Just look at the Ravenstruther siren for example!
Oh
Nice! Are you going to put all the ones you filmed on yt?
Ravenstruther next week, as it’s a complex edit and will take time. Will have to see about others
This one sounds alot slower than others. I don't think it is running at full power.
Edit: I agree, the note is much lower, and power is being applied slowly on startup.
If it has star-delta, it’d be using only the delta mode most likely, as that allows for higher speed running but less power is put through the motor. I doubt that the council would wire it incorrectly.
Although yes it sounds like it’s seriously underpowered
@@al66class59 Indeed, and isn't it the hospital not the council?
Who knows 😂
2:04 Winding Up...
Awesome video! That was interesting to hear. I have seen other videos of sirens from different countries, but this is the first one I have heard in the UK! Haha that bird at the start got scared by the movement from inside the siren. Is that a train I can hear in the background towards the end of the video around 07:10. Sounds like a Pendolino.
Thanks Toby! You always wonder whether any bird can be stupid enough to stand on the siren at 13:00 😂
I don’t know about the end- can’t remember how close the line was! I know at Ravenstruther we were very near (you could see trains every so often) but it may well be based on the fact this is in Carstairs relatively near the station.
Haha yeah 😂😂 Ah ok. I expect it is from the station then.
If I’m honest I spent more time finding somewhere to leave the camera than listening to the background noise- mainly because the other siren we went to looked a bit unreliable and likely to break so I wanted backup 😂 I’ll put the Tesco express up at some point-we saw it near Carstairs (just south of the station)
Oh right haha 😂
What is the point of not editing off the first 2 minutes of dead air ?
The point is that I can add information about the system, the siren signals, what siren is shown etc. Those who don’t want to read that can skip to the siren itself.
If you watch Mrmattandmrchay’s videos, he does something similar before the siren sounds in his videos- albeit he voices them over. I only have this clip, so can’t make it as interesting as he does.
Klaxon cs8
You should do carnwath siren it is loud
Have you been before? The problem with it is the primary school; you can’t really go in term time or you’ll get someone complaining. The only day you can really do it safely is July, and I didn’t have enough cameras for that.
Will you do it when you have a chance but?
If we go next year there’s a chance I will, as well be in Scotland at around the same time. Long way off yet though. Then again there’s also the Lanark Police Station one to think about!
@@perhaps3990 i have done Carnwath check it out
sounds like the motor is gonna go soon
could be on single phase, could be on a VFD, could just be dying, but it does the job.
ur a tbolt 1000t
u belong to usa
How many port ratio it is?
10/12 port
Scared birds fly in a moon for what
2:04 siren start
why does it sound so low pitched and louder
I don’t know for sure, but there’s multiple reasons why it might be slower/lower pitch, however I expect it’s to do with the power supply. As for being louder- well, it’s the same sound output as any other CS8 on the network.
2:03 bird goes oh shit
This thing has a very nice runup!
I agree!
Cold War Siren am I correct?
Awesome sound 👍
Cold War style alright. Should be able to put a date on the siren’s manufacture in February :)
It’s a jail siren but Cold War
@@Thunderbolt_7026 Clue's in the name Carstairs state *hospital*. Contrary to popular belief this isn't a prison.
Unsure of date of manufacture but it would not have been used for air raids during the Cold War so probably isn't a Cold War siren either, even if it dates from that era.
@@al66class59 it was made for a jail siren but some people use it for other things like fires for example
Yes, sirens like this can be used for fires, but as I’ve said before this isn’t a prison or jail. It’s a hospital.
Hey how to buy the cs8 sirens
They’re discontinued now
3:06 british thunderbolt
Proper
What are the point of these sirens??? Is it a warning device???
Yep, so if someone escapes Carstairs hospital (it’s a high security psychiatric meaning the patients are dangerous) then the public get some early warning that they need to find somewhere safe.
I'm scared even though I live in America
When a prisoner escaped, a klaxon cs8/boomdoor siren will sound
It’s sound like Cold War and scare the bird
That’s likely because it’s got the same 10-12 port ratio as most other sirens here in Britain.
Not just sirens but also any other loud sudden noises will scare birds :)
Secomak cs8 siren
2:04 I was startled just like the bird was, lol
I think everyone was 😂
Pourquoi un démarrage lent ?
Je ne sais pas pour sûr mais je pense que c’est sous-alimentée.
Je crois que il reçoit 240v et pas le 415v que le moteur a besoin de.
Motor is probably about to die or about to give out...
Or its underpowered,
@@al66class59 maybe. Cuz the windup is slow so maybe it is underpowered. But super fast shutters maybe they are not underpowered but overpowered
worlds slowest windup
Far slower than any other I’ve heard certainly!
Hey you cook him up it's called roasting it's something when you roast people because of their look
2:04 siren started and the bird are scared
Бедный голубь
bird rides on carstairs
Lucky the bird got off
In my youth in the US, every Wednesday at noon (or was it 1pm?) the city's air raid sirens would do a test. Never had such a system for loony bins here. Reagan disbanded them, realizing the republican party needed more voters, lol. Not sure when they stopped the air raid siren tests. There was a siren in my neighborhood that would sound to call the volunteer firefighters to the station, too.
New Zealand is known for its fire sirens- there’s a couple here in the UK, and I heard of some in the states, but it’s cool that sirens like these can be used even when the larger networks are disbanded :)
The US still has high security hospitals
Help😳, the Morlocks come..........☠
Would this sirens be sound if the unthinkable was to happen,ww3.
Probably not. These sirens would definitely not provide the adequate warning that big cities would need, and it’s controlled by the NHS- so I doubt that it would.
Alert-All Clear
Attack-Wail
Fire-Hi-Lo
Maybe in the states, but signals mean different things here and often depend on the network
Between 1995 and 1998 we have every month in Yugoslavia sirene test for warnings from air strike. I wondering what will happen next WTF war sirene!
LOOKS LIKE A STERLING TO ME!
I can guarantee you it isn’t!
I see the similarity though- twin rotor with tubular air intakes on either end.
And it have no roof
Very slow startup
This Is The One That Failed
one failed? was unaware of that
@al66class59 This Is A CS8 Like The Ones At Broadmoor And They Can Fail Because They're The Same Design
Yeah true, though I’d not heard of one on this network breaking before.
The Siren Where I Live Is A Federal Signal 2001 SRNB
Starts at 2:04
Big Ben: I'm So Loud. Klaxon CS8: Hold My Oil And Silence Your Bells While I Sound Old Chap.
NOBODY CARESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
You clearly don’t, so why are you here 😂
Doge seen better days when it was still 2010
Klaxon cs8
This is Secomak I’m pretty sure, but yes it’s the same design :)
@@al66class59 siren G