Having been in that "should I go for it" point many times before, I feel you pain and excited. SO glad it panned out for you. Congrats. Also, thank you for the posting, this is helping me with my cam belt replacement on my 82 Mondial.
Great result!!! I'm not very mechanically minded, but I've been fascinated with how you systematically went through possible reasons. It seems quite logical, and not so daunting, from here at least.
Result! very happy for you. The only experience with this (308 GT4) when we had the cam timing wrong there was a sickly 'clonk' when we turned it over by hand when the valves hit the piston, so I am really glad you dodged that bullet. And I bet you are too :)
Only found this channel today, I saw your Ratarossa at Brooklands on New Years Day but never realised you had a channel on here. Wow I’ve seen cambelts a few teeth out but seeing that second bank was crazy, looked like about 8 or 9 teeth out, Going to check the episode with the compression test after you’ve reset the timing
Great videos, just watched ep1 through 10, great investigation skills, we have a 365 in the family that we have owned since 1982, my father and i have done most of the work apart from changing the clutch and redoing the brake system.
Ive been in touch with Sam, we are supposed to be doing a video on the Straddle at some point but currently he is on his around the world tour. The one I did with Matt from the SmokingTire was an absolute blast.
The front bank cam drive pulley should not have any play in it. This indicates that one or both cam drive bearings are toast. Not fixing this will lead to catastrophic failure. While you are in there replacing front bank cam drive bearings, replace the rear ones also. It is likely they are the same vintage.
I really like your video blog here, great stuff thanks very much for sharing. One question though - how can it be that you have the low compression on the front bank but just fix the timing belt to get it running? you had 50psi on the front vs 180 psi on the rear bank - that is a severe issue...did you do anyting else on the front bank?
VoKa hello VoKA, it’s because the timing was so bad that the valves are still open when the pistons reach their top level when the compression should be at is max. Cheers!
Love the channel, so the reason why the car wouldn't start is the timing belt was not set correctly? Is that a common problem or a did a mechanic make a mistake?
Yes it lives may have bin the cams were out a bit. Looks like some one tried and gave up ... you deserve a pinch of gin tonight my friend. Keep the vids coming can't wait to see how see turns out..
I just had this happen with a low-milage '85 Volvo 760 Turbo I purchased. Ran terribly, almost no power. The B230ft is a single cam 4 cylinder that is only maybe two or three steps of complication away from a tractor engine. I had a receipt from the previous owner for a timing belt service at a local shop, so I checked it- lo and behold the timing is a tooth and a half off. Seems it doesn't matter how simple the timing system is (like on the 4cyl Volvo) or complex (like the 308), someone will always find a way to botch it!
I wouldn't bother refitting that aircon unit, they never worked very well anyway even when they were filled with the correct gas they were designed for, save the weight.
Thanks Chris, This is my 3rd QV and you are right none of them worked well. Same with the 3.2 mondial again not even a belt fitted on that one. I think I will reinstall it for originality but won't bother hooking it up. Its rare here in the UK that we need Aircon (maybe 1-2 months max)
When that thing fired up even I got excited. I would have given you a high five if I was there. Awesome!
I'm just finding you now. When it started up for you I was very happy. Congrats, I know you still had a long way to go.
Having been in that "should I go for it" point many times before, I feel you pain and excited. SO glad it panned out for you. Congrats. Also, thank you for the posting, this is helping me with my cam belt replacement on my 82 Mondial.
Great result!!! I'm not very mechanically minded, but I've been fascinated with how you systematically went through possible reasons. It seems quite logical, and not so daunting, from here at least.
HURRAH!!!!!!! the sweet sweet noise of 8 running cylinders .. good work!!
Congrats!!! It’s alive!
Result! very happy for you. The only experience with this (308 GT4) when we had the cam timing wrong there was a sickly 'clonk' when we turned it over by hand when the valves hit the piston, so I am really glad you dodged that bullet. And I bet you are too :)
Cheers Stu, I remember you telling me about that GT4 years ago.
Only found this channel today, I saw your Ratarossa at Brooklands on New Years Day but never realised you had a channel on here. Wow I’ve seen cambelts a few teeth out but seeing that second bank was crazy, looked like about 8 or 9 teeth out, Going to check the episode with the compression test after you’ve reset the timing
DJ Hatstand thanks buddy, spread the word 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Well done on getting it running!
Great videos, just watched ep1 through 10, great investigation skills, we have a 365 in the family that we have owned since 1982, my father and i have done most of the work apart from changing the clutch and redoing the brake system.
Well done! Really chuffed for you that it started this has been some procedure!! Looking forward to future episodes 👍👍🙂
That satisfaction at 10min! after 10episodes finally :D Well done
csshane it was a hard slog but so worth it
Great stuff! Hard to watch though when revving so high when cold!
Thanks Andy. Yes scary stuff with the high revving idle around 3500rpm. But otherwise super happy with it firing up first time.
It’s a shame Sam from STG is away for a year, as would love to see you two Ferrari nuts in a video together. Plus he loves a 360CS 👍
Ive been in touch with Sam, we are supposed to be doing a video on the Straddle at some point but currently he is on his around the world tour. The one I did with Matt from the SmokingTire was an absolute blast.
The front bank cam drive pulley should not have any play in it. This indicates that one or both cam drive bearings are toast. Not fixing this will lead to catastrophic failure. While you are in there replacing front bank cam drive bearings, replace the rear ones also. It is likely they are the same vintage.
Maniac!!! :D Im so happy for you
Sehr schön gemacht, sUPER !!
I really like your video blog here, great stuff thanks very much for sharing. One question though - how can it be that you have the low compression on the front bank but just fix the timing belt to get it running? you had 50psi on the front vs 180 psi on the rear bank - that is a severe issue...did you do anyting else on the front bank?
VoKa hello VoKA, it’s because the timing was so bad that the valves are still open when the pistons reach their top level when the compression should be at is max.
Cheers!
Please do you have a video on changing the lower timing sprocket for this engine? I am about to do that on the Mondial
Cool at least it works
YASSSSS!!! what a moment!
The outer bearing on that 5/8 inter drive is going to fail, just thought I'd give you a heads up...
Great news
I think a black 308 is a gorgeous proposition ... just not LHD for me ..
Nige, I saw a lovely black QV with deep spoiler for sale (RHD) and its looks mega, thats what I'm basing this project build on, same spec wise.
Nerd tears when you fired it up!
Love the channel, so the reason why the car wouldn't start is the timing belt was not set correctly? Is that a common problem or a did a mechanic make a mistake?
yes mate it had jumped some teeth because the lower pulley bearing was shot
@@Ratarossa Where did you learn to work on Ferraris? I'd love to learn how to do that but it's an expensive hobby
Yes it lives may have bin the cams were out a bit. Looks like some one tried and gave up ... you deserve a pinch of gin tonight my friend. Keep the vids coming can't wait to see how see turns out..
Of course you're mad, you own multiple Ferrari's, we knew that.(g)
How can people botch a timing belt change in such a manifest way is beyond me... Congrats on the cheap fix before making a valve salad!
crazy hey, thanks though was lucky so far
I just had this happen with a low-milage '85 Volvo 760 Turbo I purchased. Ran terribly, almost no power. The B230ft is a single cam 4 cylinder that is only maybe two or three steps of complication away from a tractor engine. I had a receipt from the previous owner for a timing belt service at a local shop, so I checked it- lo and behold the timing is a tooth and a half off. Seems it doesn't matter how simple the timing system is (like on the 4cyl Volvo) or complex (like the 308), someone will always find a way to botch it!
@@Ratarossa that was lucky, nice!
i Would have done the same thing!
I wouldn't bother refitting that aircon unit, they never worked very well anyway even when they were filled with the correct gas they were designed for, save the weight.
Thanks Chris, This is my 3rd QV and you are right none of them worked well. Same with the 3.2 mondial again not even a belt fitted on that one. I think I will reinstall it for originality but won't bother hooking it up. Its rare here in the UK that we need Aircon (maybe 1-2 months max)
The best in my opinion is a 328 gts
I agree after 20 years
Why not just turn the engine over without firing. At first.