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I appreciate that when you explain something, you briefly refresh us even on the simple terms we all "should know." When I first started watching woodworking videos on RUclips I asked one of the other popular channels on here what a butt joint was, because it was mentioned in the video but not explained, and they told me to go look in the mirror.
I swear that I learn more in these 7-10 minute video than I would in a whole semester of a woodworking class. Now I understand why you don’t glue these joints and what loose tenon actually means.
I'm just getting into woodworking and I really appreciate how your channel spells everything out, doesn't assume you know everything, doesn't treat you like an idiot, and gets straight to the point. Wood expansion and accounting for it in joinery is one of those topics that is talked about often but rarely explained as well as this.
I recently came across an 8-minute tutorial on "A common mistake of connecting corner desks and counter tops", and it was a breath of fresh air. The creator Stumpy Nubs has done an excellent job of packing a lot of useful information into a short timeframe without sacrificing clarity or quality. The flow of the video is seamless, with well-timed visuals and explanations that enhance the learning experience. He gets straight to the point, delivering the content with an energy and passion that keeps you engaged from start to finish. The video makes excellent use of visual aids and editing techniques to ensure that viewers can follow along without any confusion. The explanations are clear, concise, and accompanied by just the right amount of detail to be informative without being overwhelming. This is a prime example of how to create educational content that is both informative and enjoyable to watch. If you're looking for a tutorial that respects your time and provides a great learning experience, this is the one to watch.
You are batting 1,000. I have learned something important with every episode. ‘Excellent’ does not do your channel justice. Thank you for teaching me things I should have learned many years ago.
Wow I'm really glad you made this video. I was going to join mine with dowels and pocket screws. I have never done a project like this, so now I'm going to have to learn how to use biscuits. Thanks.
This is some high density information. You are extremely efficient with your words. The clear and concise manner you speak without wasting any time is very refreshing. In a 9 minute video I learned a lot and I appreciate it.
Now I see why my large miter jointed outdoor table failed so quickly in a really humid environment. I'm still learning a lot, but this was a major eye opener to the mechanical power of swelling wood. Cheers Stumpy!
That was one of the greatest RUclips videos I've ever seen. Great language, comprehensive, very nice subject and tackling it for beginners even though one would realize about these problems later in their careers. No fluff or anything, just great woodworking. Thank you very much!
I didn't understand the level of learning I was getting into starting this video. It really opened my eyes to joining pieces. Fantastic work. Thank you.
At 58 and thought I was burnt out on woodworking I am reinvigorated to continue woodworking for the rest of my days. I grew up with Norm and always learned by books and magazines. These videos are priceless to me. I can’t thank you enough.
I love the clear concise language. I love the editing and the visual demonstrations you tie into the narration. Grade A teaching material. I seldom do woodworking but you're so good at teaching I just enjoy being here. I get an appreciation for the work that real craftsmen do and the reminder that the few projects I did do, I did wrong.
It's not often that I loosely google what I think I'm looking for and then find EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Quoting a mitered butcher block counter top and this vid answered all I needed to know. Thanks!
I use hand tools, so other woodworking videos talk about machines so don't make any sense to me or how I work. You have one of the few channels which has great info for all kinds of woodworkers. Thank you!
Every time I see you talking about simple joints, I'm always blown away with the depth of your knowledge. I love it, everything makes sense from explaining, and I'm learning a lot. Thanks for that!
That is the clearest explanation of a quite complex decision point for woodworkers that I have ever seen. This is days of tutoring in an apprenticeship.
Here in the UK the most common way to joint worktops is the "mason's mitre". It's essentially a hybrid of a butt-joint and a mitre joint which avoids the "mitre opening up" problem, however it is very unforgiving of mistakes during the cutting as you need the male and female sides of the joint to fit together perfectly. I'm told that people used to cut them with tenon saw, but these days we use a 1/2" router with a guide bush, in a jig. We also use dog bone bolts and biscuits to hold these together.
Just looking for this comment! I was going to say, normally I get out my Hitachi router and Trend jig and put in a funky joint that starts as a mitre and straightens out :D
I appreciate that you teach that there is an appropriate solution to each unique challenge and that a properly thought out approach will result in a project with a long, useful life.
I’ve been struggling to understand how to make a corner countertop for a while now. This video explains the solution and makes it sound easy. Thanks a ton!
I'm finding these videos extremely interesting and informative. I may never use these skill but knowing they exist means I can better talk to tradespeople about my needs.
I used a miter on a large basement bar, almost identical to your methods, including cutting with track saw and dog bones. I did decide to glue the joint, and haven’t had any problems with it opening, but I took a different approach and allowed one end of the bartop to float on the bar, allowing for movement. No regrets, five years later. It was the reason I bought the track saw…not sure how I’d got along without it!
Thanks James...awesome as always. Only 12 years too late...I built my bookshelves and wish I'd known this back then! Your ability to impart knowledge is superb and simple! The best way to teach! As always - a must watch!
Great topic, often misunderstood. Nothing worst than finding the counter top you worked so hard on developing a gap due to seasonal movement. As always, thank you for your great style and awesome ability to relay it to the masses.
I've just learned a lot of important things I didn't know. I didn't know about not using glue at those joints and because of this I was about to do this mistake in a personal project I'm doing in the near future. Thank you.
Love the shout out to Carter & Sons! I use mine with Stuart Batty carbon fiber handles... they're super quick to change out and have a nice feel to them.
This channel is such a wealth of information. You explain so clearly how and why problems can arise, then give all the options to overcome them and get a great finish. Thanks for these many nuggets of woodworking gold.
You guys have no idea how much this video means to me. I'm about to start a project making an L shaped desk out of pine and I had no idea what would be the correct way in joining the 2 pieces. Thank you so much for this! Definitely earned a sub from me
Getting ready for a few wood projects and this helps me understand why things are built a certain way and not a different way. That different way would be my way, leading to inevitable failure in the future. Thanks for saving me the headaches of the future as I now know what each project needs and why.
I appreciate all of your tutorials and have been watching your videos for a few months. I’m just getting in to woodworking and because of you yesterday I just received my Harvey C14 and Harvey 110LC-36P. Thank you I’m very excited about the new chapter in my life.
As I've said before, I'm not a woodworker ... yet, as you were talking about the different joints, I thought to myself I wonder if a biscuit joining would be appropriate....and then you answered my question! As usual I've learnt something, and thank you for sharing your knowledge. Cheers!
My favorite thing about your videos is how much background information you put in. I have rewatched a few videos because there is just so much to absorb, but I love it! As an information nerd and a budding crafter, I just love your style of mentoring. Very calm and well mannered approach. Thank You! and Happy Holidays!
I enjoy your videos despite being a woodworking layman. The way you explain the items is both easily understood and provide a way to navigate around common starting errors.
I work in the boatbuilding world. The difference between OK and master boatwrights is a solid engineering sense of the material. This channel provides consistently excellent technical material. The only down side is that you lure me into clearing out my savings for more tools- damn you.
I’m still squarely in the newbie category however this video gave me so much *usable* information on wood movement, decision on joints and reasons for fastening that I didn’t even know I didn’t know. Thanks very much for that 👍
I've gotten a growing interest in woodworking and your channel gives me so much information that I never knew about and haven't been told of and I'm feeling confident when I'm going to finally start working on my own projects that I won't be struggling. Thanks for making these :D
So far this was what I was looking for. I am trying to install my own countertop in my rental property. I have a corner joint that I want to do the right way the first time around.
Very useful, and I watched this at a good time for me. (Completely by accident, as I was not specifically looking for the information.) In a couple of weeks I am going to be doing a cabinet and countertop project. Now I know better ways to connect the pieces! Thanks.
Excellent video. I've been woodworking for many years but I learned A LOT from this video. Very clearly presented and very intelligent. This is what makes you one of the very best on RUclips and a world better than when you tried the comedy approach. You're great.
It's neat how different fields have similar recurring themes- in a rocket engine injector we had a braze joint open up due to uneven shrinkage of two parts, a thin disk with a central hole closing out an annular gallery in the larger part. We solved it in the next build by adding an s-curve in the disk to let it change diameter to accommodate to the larger, stiffer main plate during rapid temperature changes when the liquid oxygen hit. For many years afterward, our design reviews included, "Do we need a 'wubba' here?" The floating tenons and draw bolts accomplish the same end, allowing compliance for expansion and contraction rather than concentrating loads to the breaking point. Cool!
Wish I had seen this video when I built my large desk 4 years ago, I knew about wood movement but not enough to stop it, I was surprised how much of it failed. I spend a lot of time and money fixing this desk, I sealed it with Epoxy so hopefully no more failures.
A wealth of thorough information with attention given to intricacies as well as the basics. Y’all are awesome; I appreciate the long and short of your lessons even when you go against the grain! Thank you -Castor
Great video and explanation, I have been looking for that information for a few weeks now and struggled to get a decent explanation. You published this video just in time for me starting my kitchen renovation. Thank you.
When your machining you can simply go through a cutting list and be pretty sure the pieces will fit together perfectly, but I find with more complex work where tiny variables add up you come to a point where you have to take your measurements of the work itself. This video explains the theory behind what you do, which is exactly why doing a cabinet making course is a very good idea. I had a business partner who was an old timer who taught me the old ways which was also invaluable.
I did a pretty successful miter joint in my wood kitchen countertops by using oak veneer plywood edge trimmed with wide solid oak by using a straight edge to guide a fresh blade in my Bosch sabre saw. I was building on a tight budget. I was able to rip a single sheet of plywood to get two countertop sections. The width shortage was made up with my extra wide solid oak trim. I was impressed how well my improvised edge guide worked with a sabre saw simply butted against it. I think that your unglued bisquit joint would have been a better technique than we employed, but plywood is likely more stable than solid wood. Our countertops are 10 years old and my miter joint is still surviving. My greatest regret is my Home Depot plywood veneer skin is extremely thin. I bought much thicker oak veneer plywood from a cabinet shop 10 years before the countertop project that had much thicker oak veneer. My woodworking budget now allows for solid wood projects and I am increasingly becoming aware of and sensitive to wood movement. I enjoy content that addresses these issues as I am trying to improve my furniture designs to manage this anticipated movement.
Whe I worked in "home depot equvalent" we had roting templates for the edges of butt jointed corners on counter tops. The made it so that the was a reliefcut on the long edge and the profiled portion of the short edge had a radius where it mated with the relief cut. The coutntertops were aligned with biscuits and held together with special screw clamps for easy removal as I remember. I could make a drawing of the setup if there are any questions or interest in making a video about the technique. It was pretty slick.
I was also thinking of work tops. A small mitre for the profile.then the butt joint. Then biscuits and the screw clamps. You use a jig profile for this. 😳
Thanks James. While I do not have any similar projects in the works, this is a great piece on dealing with wood movement. Thanks for making me a little smarter today
this was SO HELPFUL. I get so frustrated trying to find the information I need but don't know I don't know? and then some places just say "well this is what you should do!!!" but don't actually EXPLAIN it and then I can't help but think, okay well what if I DONT?
Should have watched this before installing my butcher block counters. I used a hodgepodge of dowels, glue and dog bone fasteners on a butt joint. It was also my first foray into joinery.. 1 year later there is a tiny seam separation and slightly proud elevation of the long grain side. Depending on the day. Overall I'm still pleased and don't mind the errors. They tell the truth about me. Great video for future reference
This is a superb tutorial! The illustrations explained wood movement crystal clearly. Outdoor miters are a pet peeve of mine because the humidity swing is 4X what indoor humidity is. Anything over an inch and a half will produce noticeable gaps. If the joint is 15' away it might not be observable, but when folks doll up a window with 4" or 6" mitered outdoor trim I just shake my head.
I was going to ask my woodworking group just this morning about counter tops but had to run out. Now I just got home and you've answered most of the questions I was going to ask in this video! Thanks a bunch! Awesome timing!
Upon your recommendation I purchased the dowellmax. Very happy with the purchase by the way. Thank you. (I also purchased the BCT Joint maker Pro. Happy there as well, although that was an expensive episode😎) I’ve used the dowellmax to make many mitre joints (deep and narrow also broad and flat) and have been very satisfied.
I’ve never made a wood counter top before. I doubt I ever will because that’s just not what I want to do. But, I have built more than a couple desks - never a corner desk, though. This video gives me something to think about should the opportunity ever arise.
Outstanding video! I am working on a project where I have to deal with conflicting end grain and your video helped me better understand methods to deal with this issue!! Thank you for posting this helpful video!!
Thoughfullnes is so rare, and the ability to explain and understand the nature of mechanics as it applies to E V E R Y T H A N G.. Merci. You are too mellow and chill
Our family had an antique dining table set heirloom which had come over from Scotland, all hand-carved, complete with six chairs (one of which was larger and more ornate for the head of the table) and extra two leaves. The thing weighed over a thousand pounds. And it didn't use any glue or nails whatsoever. The entire thing was constructed with pegs, dowels, tenons and biscuits. Whatever master artisan made it clearly knew that much wood all joined together needed to be able to flex.
Wow James, this taught me so much! I made a corner desk for my brother with two big miters and I hadn't considered wood movement so much as visual appearance. I almost want to go check the desk out and see how it's fared over the last 8 months.
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Would a butterfly or bow tie joint work in this case or would that have the same issue when it comes to wood movement?
I appreciate that when you explain something, you briefly refresh us even on the simple terms we all "should know." When I first started watching woodworking videos on RUclips I asked one of the other popular channels on here what a butt joint was, because it was mentioned in the video but not explained, and they told me to go look in the mirror.
They must have forgotten that not every mirror has been framed the same way their mirror is.
@@hj8607 Pretty sure he was just joking. lol
@@RAndrewNeal like one hand clapping ?
@@RAndrewNeal Maybe, but it's not a useful response.
@@showalk I was replying to a since-deleted comment reply. I don't remember what it said now.
I swear that I learn more in these 7-10 minute video than I would in a whole semester of a woodworking class. Now I understand why you don’t glue these joints and what loose tenon actually means.
First time I've understood the term "loose tenon joinery." Good stuff.
Yeah, I liked the explanation for it's use
Here's a tutorial on it: ruclips.net/video/Bx1Mg2mTMO0/видео.html
I'm just getting into woodworking and I really appreciate how your channel spells everything out, doesn't assume you know everything, doesn't treat you like an idiot, and gets straight to the point. Wood expansion and accounting for it in joinery is one of those topics that is talked about often but rarely explained as well as this.
I recently came across an 8-minute tutorial on "A common mistake of connecting corner desks and counter tops", and it was a breath of fresh air. The creator Stumpy Nubs has done an excellent job of packing a lot of useful information into a short timeframe without sacrificing clarity or quality. The flow of the video is seamless, with well-timed visuals and explanations that enhance the learning experience.
He gets straight to the point, delivering the content with an energy and passion that keeps you engaged from start to finish. The video makes excellent use of visual aids and editing techniques to ensure that viewers can follow along without any confusion. The explanations are clear, concise, and accompanied by just the right amount of detail to be informative without being overwhelming.
This is a prime example of how to create educational content that is both informative and enjoyable to watch. If you're looking for a tutorial that respects your time and provides a great learning experience, this is the one to watch.
You are batting 1,000. I have learned something important with every episode. ‘Excellent’ does not do your channel justice. Thank you for teaching me things I should have learned many years ago.
Great explanation about which way the grains expand. I never knew that.
Wow I'm really glad you made this video. I was going to join mine with dowels and pocket screws. I have never done a project like this, so now I'm going to have to learn how to use biscuits. Thanks.
What an awesome explanation of how to establish miter and butt joints!! Completely understandable!!
These videos are informative without being cryptic or condescending. Excellent presentation, sir.
No one covers the topics as you do sir.
You’re the right person at the right place. 🙏
This is some high density information. You are extremely efficient with your words. The clear and concise manner you speak without wasting any time is very refreshing. In a 9 minute video I learned a lot and I appreciate it.
Now I see why my large miter jointed outdoor table failed so quickly in a really humid environment. I'm still learning a lot, but this was a major eye opener to the mechanical power of swelling wood.
Cheers Stumpy!
Excellent video and well explained. Just what I need for a desk project. Thank you from the UK
That was one of the greatest RUclips videos I've ever seen. Great language, comprehensive, very nice subject and tackling it for beginners even though one would realize about these problems later in their careers. No fluff or anything, just great woodworking. Thank you very much!
I didn't understand the level of learning I was getting into starting this video. It really opened my eyes to joining pieces. Fantastic work. Thank you.
Those dog bone connectors look really interesting!
At 58 and thought I was burnt out on woodworking I am reinvigorated to continue woodworking for the rest of my days. I grew up with Norm and always learned by books and magazines. These videos are priceless to me. I can’t thank you enough.
I don't work with wood, but honestly... You make me want to.
Good stuff.
I love the clear concise language. I love the editing and the visual demonstrations you tie into the narration. Grade A teaching material. I seldom do woodworking but you're so good at teaching I just enjoy being here. I get an appreciation for the work that real craftsmen do and the reminder that the few projects I did do, I did wrong.
It's not often that I loosely google what I think I'm looking for and then find EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Quoting a mitered butcher block counter top and this vid answered all I needed to know. Thanks!
I don't do woodwork. But your videos are so relaxing to watch that I always click your videos if they appear on my RUclips home.
I use hand tools, so other woodworking videos talk about machines so don't make any sense to me or how I work. You have one of the few channels which has great info for all kinds of woodworkers. Thank you!
If you like hand tools you should check out Roy Underhill.
Awesome video. You’ve explained things even a newbie can understand.
The quality of the information in this video is quite astonishing. Thank you.
Every time I see you talking about simple joints, I'm always blown away with the depth of your knowledge. I love it, everything makes sense from explaining, and I'm learning a lot. Thanks for that!
That is the clearest explanation of a quite complex decision point for woodworkers that I have ever seen. This is days of tutoring in an apprenticeship.
Loved the illustrations of where wood moves and where it doesn’t.
Here in the UK the most common way to joint worktops is the "mason's mitre". It's essentially a hybrid of a butt-joint and a mitre joint which avoids the "mitre opening up" problem, however it is very unforgiving of mistakes during the cutting as you need the male and female sides of the joint to fit together perfectly.
I'm told that people used to cut them with tenon saw, but these days we use a 1/2" router with a guide bush, in a jig. We also use dog bone bolts and biscuits to hold these together.
Just looking for this comment! I was going to say, normally I get out my Hitachi router and Trend jig and put in a funky joint that starts as a mitre and straightens out :D
I had no idea it was called a "Mason's Mitre" ..... learn something new everyday , thanks;-)
I appreciate that you teach that there is an appropriate solution to each unique challenge and that a properly thought out approach will result in a project with a long, useful life.
Excellent information! I have always wondered why those dog bone bolt connectors were used in mitered corners in countertops especially. Now I know!
I’ve been struggling to understand how to make a corner countertop for a while now. This video explains the solution and makes it sound easy. Thanks a ton!
This guy knows what he's talking about! It's great when an expert can communicate clearly with learners.
I love how you try to teach us to ask the right questions.... And then show us how to create the right answer....
This brings back memories of myself as a kid watching new Yankee workshop. Good times thank you.
Your site has improved so much since you stopped trying to be funny. It has become one of my favorites. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and tips.
I'm finding these videos extremely interesting and informative. I may never use these skill but knowing they exist means I can better talk to tradespeople about my needs.
I used a miter on a large basement bar, almost identical to your methods, including cutting with track saw and dog bones. I did decide to glue the joint, and haven’t had any problems with it opening, but I took a different approach and allowed one end of the bartop to float on the bar, allowing for movement. No regrets, five years later. It was the reason I bought the track saw…not sure how I’d got along without it!
Thanks James...awesome as always. Only 12 years too late...I built my bookshelves and wish I'd known this back then! Your ability to impart knowledge is superb and simple! The best way to teach! As always - a must watch!
Great topic, often misunderstood. Nothing worst than finding the counter top you worked so hard on developing a gap due to seasonal movement. As always, thank you for your great style and awesome ability to relay it to the masses.
Love this! Most practical and economical video I have seen thus far for building an L-shaped desk. This is a fantastic looking desk! Thank you!
I've just learned a lot of important things I didn't know. I didn't know about not using glue at those joints and because of this I was about to do this mistake in a personal project I'm doing in the near future. Thank you.
Love the shout out to Carter & Sons! I use mine with Stuart Batty carbon fiber handles... they're super quick to change out and have a nice feel to them.
I’m about to start building 2 L shaped counter tops for a customer. So glad this video was just published.
This channel is such a wealth of information. You explain so clearly how and why problems can arise, then give all the options to overcome them and get a great finish. Thanks for these many nuggets of woodworking gold.
You guys have no idea how much this video means to me. I'm about to start a project making an L shaped desk out of pine and I had no idea what would be the correct way in joining the 2 pieces. Thank you so much for this! Definitely earned a sub from me
Getting ready for a few wood projects and this helps me understand why things are built a certain way and not a different way. That different way would be my way, leading to inevitable failure in the future.
Thanks for saving me the headaches of the future as I now know what each project needs and why.
You are concise, clear, confident, and complete in your explanations. Thank you for your sharing of expertise.
Excellent tip. I think I’ve always tried to glue those joints. Both of them with biscuits for keeping both on the same plane. Excellent information.
I appreciate all of your tutorials and have been watching your videos for a few months. I’m just getting in to woodworking and because of you yesterday I just received my Harvey C14 and Harvey 110LC-36P.
Thank you I’m very excited about the new chapter in my life.
I have to truly admit I learn so much watching your videos....great and yet simple to understand for us layman/noobs 😉 .
As I've said before, I'm not a woodworker ... yet, as you were talking about the different joints, I thought to myself I wonder if a biscuit joining would be appropriate....and then you answered my question! As usual I've learnt something, and thank you for sharing your knowledge. Cheers!
Quality work, on the joint AND the script. Really impressed with this channel.
My favorite thing about your videos is how much background information you put in. I have rewatched a few videos because there is just so much to absorb, but I love it! As an information nerd and a budding crafter, I just love your style of mentoring. Very calm and well mannered approach. Thank You! and Happy Holidays!
I enjoy your videos despite being a woodworking layman.
The way you explain the items is both easily understood and provide a way to navigate around common starting errors.
I work in the boatbuilding world. The difference between OK and master boatwrights is a solid engineering sense of the material. This channel provides consistently excellent technical material. The only down side is that you lure me into clearing out my savings for more tools- damn you.
I’m still squarely in the newbie category however this video gave me so much *usable* information on wood movement, decision on joints and reasons for fastening that I didn’t even know I didn’t know.
Thanks very much for that 👍
I've gotten a growing interest in woodworking and your channel gives me so much information that I never knew about and haven't been told of and I'm feeling confident when I'm going to finally start working on my own projects that I won't be struggling. Thanks for making these :D
So far this was what I was looking for. I am trying to install my own countertop in my rental property. I have a corner joint that I want to do the right way the first time around.
Your videos are so thoroughly detailed in explaining what works and what doesn’t. Thank you so very much.
Very useful, and I watched this at a good time for me. (Completely by accident, as I was not specifically looking for the information.) In a couple of weeks I am going to be doing a cabinet and countertop project. Now I know better ways to connect the pieces! Thanks.
Thank you for your concise clarity. A real boost to my meagre knowledge in wood slab desk and countertop making. Thank you
Marvellous video as always I am just about to make an L shaped desk for my partner and this answered all my questions about it. Thanks
Excellent video. I've been woodworking for many years but I learned A LOT from this video. Very clearly presented and very intelligent. This is what makes you one of the very best on RUclips and a world better than when you tried the comedy approach. You're great.
It's neat how different fields have similar recurring themes- in a rocket engine injector we had a braze joint open up due to uneven shrinkage of two parts, a thin disk with a central hole closing out an annular gallery in the larger part. We solved it in the next build by adding an s-curve in the disk to let it change diameter to accommodate to the larger, stiffer main plate during rapid temperature changes when the liquid oxygen hit. For many years afterward, our design reviews included, "Do we need a 'wubba' here?"
The floating tenons and draw bolts accomplish the same end, allowing compliance for expansion and contraction rather than concentrating loads to the breaking point. Cool!
Wish I had seen this video when I built my large desk 4 years ago, I knew about wood movement but not enough to stop it, I was surprised how much of it failed. I spend a lot of time and money fixing this desk, I sealed it with Epoxy so hopefully no more failures.
A wealth of thorough information with attention given to intricacies as well as the basics. Y’all are awesome; I appreciate the long and short of your lessons even when you go against the grain!
Thank you
-Castor
Another brilliantly done Stumpy Nubs video. What a lasting woodworking legacy they are!
I'm glad you made this video. I just bought my first house and am in the planning stages of making new countertops
Your videos are all very clear and well thought out. I’m not a wood worker and still enjoy them.
Great video and explanation, I have been looking for that information for a few weeks now and struggled to get a decent explanation. You published this video just in time for me starting my kitchen renovation. Thank you.
Really useful rationale for choosing the best option, and handy info on appropriate fasteners that I wasn't aware of, thanks!
When your machining you can simply go through a cutting list and be pretty sure the pieces will fit together perfectly, but I find with more complex work where tiny variables add up you come to a point where you have to take your measurements of the work itself. This video explains the theory behind what you do, which is exactly why doing a cabinet making course is a very good idea. I had a business partner who was an old timer who taught me the old ways which was also invaluable.
Your videos are solid gold. I am always so excited to watch the videos once I get notified one has been released. Keep up the great work.
I did a pretty successful miter joint in my wood kitchen countertops by using oak veneer plywood edge trimmed with wide solid oak by using a straight edge to guide a fresh blade in my Bosch sabre saw. I was building on a tight budget. I was able to rip a single sheet of plywood to get two countertop sections. The width shortage was made up with my extra wide solid oak trim. I was impressed how well my improvised edge guide worked with a sabre saw simply butted against it. I think that your unglued bisquit joint would have been a better technique than we employed, but plywood is likely more stable than solid wood. Our countertops are 10 years old and my miter joint is still surviving. My greatest regret is my Home Depot plywood veneer skin is extremely thin. I bought much thicker oak veneer plywood from a cabinet shop 10 years before the countertop project that had much thicker oak veneer.
My woodworking budget now allows for solid wood projects and I am increasingly becoming aware of and sensitive to wood movement. I enjoy content that addresses these issues as I am trying to improve my furniture designs to manage this anticipated movement.
Whe I worked in "home depot equvalent" we had roting templates for the edges of butt jointed corners on counter tops. The made it so that the was a reliefcut on the long edge and the profiled portion of the short edge had a radius where it mated with the relief cut. The coutntertops were aligned with biscuits and held together with special screw clamps for easy removal as I remember. I could make a drawing of the setup if there are any questions or interest in making a video about the technique. It was pretty slick.
I was also thinking of work tops. A small mitre for the profile.then the butt joint. Then biscuits and the screw clamps. You use a jig profile for this. 😳
Thanks James. While I do not have any similar projects in the works, this is a great piece on dealing with wood movement. Thanks for making me a little smarter today
Very high quality technical material here. Awesome!
this was SO HELPFUL. I get so frustrated trying to find the information I need but don't know I don't know? and then some places just say "well this is what you should do!!!" but don't actually EXPLAIN it and then I can't help but think, okay well what if I DONT?
I love it when I find a video that actually teaches me something
This instructional video was spot on! Very well presented making the material easy to understand.
Your explanations are always so concise, clear and complete! Thanks.
I don't even do woodworking, but this was still entertaining and informative. It's cool to know the thought process behind choosing joints.
Should have watched this before installing my butcher block counters. I used a hodgepodge of dowels, glue and dog bone fasteners on a butt joint. It was also my first foray into joinery.. 1 year later there is a tiny seam separation and slightly proud elevation of the long grain side. Depending on the day. Overall I'm still pleased and don't mind the errors. They tell the truth about me. Great video for future reference
Absolutely fantastic video. No wasted words, video is just as long as it needs to be and I truly appreciate that.
This is a superb tutorial! The illustrations explained wood movement crystal clearly.
Outdoor miters are a pet peeve of mine because the humidity swing is 4X what indoor humidity is. Anything over an inch and a half will produce noticeable gaps. If the joint is 15' away it might not be observable, but when folks doll up a window with 4" or 6" mitered outdoor trim I just shake my head.
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Iv been thinking about exactly this for about a week and thank god I watched this video had no idea about half of this stuff!
I was going to ask my woodworking group just this morning about counter tops but had to run out. Now I just got home and you've answered most of the questions I was going to ask in this video! Thanks a bunch! Awesome timing!
That was very informative. I like the joinery methods that you showed. I have never seen that before. Thanks for all the great videos.
Love the detail and explanations behind the choices. These kinds of videos help people apply principles not just copying steps. Bravo!
Upon your recommendation I purchased the dowellmax.
Very happy with the purchase by the way. Thank you.
(I also purchased the BCT Joint maker Pro. Happy there as well, although that was an expensive episode😎)
I’ve used the dowellmax to make many mitre joints (deep and narrow also broad and flat) and have been very satisfied.
I’ve never made a wood counter top before. I doubt I ever will because that’s just not what I want to do. But, I have built more than a couple desks - never a corner desk, though. This video gives me something to think about should the opportunity ever arise.
Outstanding video! I am working on a project where I have to deal with conflicting end grain and your video helped me better understand methods to deal with this issue!! Thank you for posting this helpful video!!
Thoughfullnes is so rare, and the ability to explain and understand the nature of mechanics as it applies to E V E R Y T H A N G.. Merci. You are too mellow and chill
Our family had an antique dining table set heirloom which had come over from Scotland, all hand-carved, complete with six chairs (one of which was larger and more ornate for the head of the table) and extra two leaves. The thing weighed over a thousand pounds. And it didn't use any glue or nails whatsoever. The entire thing was constructed with pegs, dowels, tenons and biscuits. Whatever master artisan made it clearly knew that much wood all joined together needed to be able to flex.
I really appreciate your channel. I'm renovating a house.
Wow James, this taught me so much! I made a corner desk for my brother with two big miters and I hadn't considered wood movement so much as visual appearance. I almost want to go check the desk out and see how it's fared over the last 8 months.
Great explanation of the difference between the two types of joints. Thanks!
Clear & Concise instructions! Really useful video. Thanks for sharing 👍