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I would add loose long hair, unmasked long beards and wearing a tie to the list. I had a neighbour who scalped himself whilst using a lathe. He still wears a bandage on his head more than 35 years later. And a necktie tie can snap your neck if you get caught around a piece of heavy machinery.
@@RWBHere All rules depend on what tools there are. If there are no spinning tools, where anything can get trapped, then you are safe from many that you mentioned. Still tie or long hair just go in the way with your work, but aren't unsafe. For me it is safe with sandals (but the ones tied also on your ankle!) - if you are not having any hammers, heavy or sharp materials etc. it's only a matter of hygiene. Still a good idea to use full shoes though, having dust between your toes is unpleasant. As for music: just play something accepted by everyone, but not same thing over and over again, which happens with radio stations that repeat their 20-30 songs playlist. If I was to add something, then it would be body awareness for people only starting to operate tools. So often people forget they have second hand and continously place it where it shouldn't be, just because they need to do something with it, especially dangerous when working with saws, high voltage, etc.
My wife's grandfather was a cabinet maker and had a modest workshop in his basement where he made things after he retired. I inherited his 1947 Delta Unisaw, which I restored. When I was sanding down the top, I deliberately left the rings from his coffee cups as a reminder and an homage to a great man. The saw still runs great today.
Bravo! All excellent advice. One thing you missed, that some people do, is rather than listening to music, is listening to talk shows or podcasts. Listening to any talking while working with tools is very dangerous. It's also will reduce the quality of work while doing any technical work. The only talking that is appropriate while using tools is when you are being instructed how to do something, and that should be done carefully also. Any kind of talking requires that your concentration be split. Song lyrics do not, even when singing along. I know, I have proved in the past at a couple of workplaces.
"No startling people" is a rule that I would also love to see implemented. If you hear, for instance, the table saw running (or any saw in the shop), you WAIT to enter the shop until the tool is off. Also, no pranking people by startling them. That is an instant (and probably violent) perm ban. Can't have you in the shop if that is your idea of humor. No matter how loudly you proclaim that "Its just a prank, bro!"
Nope, there is a light switch outside the door that turns on a red light inside the shop. You want my attention, for any reason, you turn on that switch and wait until I come to the door. “NO ENTRY” means ABSOLUTELY NO ENTRY unless I invite you inside. No borrowing tools or money are rules I follow religiously as well. Save yourself an *** chewing and don’t even ask to borrow my tools. I’m not a tool rental nor a bank, I don’t make loans of tools or money.
I learned back in shop class in high school never to react to anything outside of what your doing. Had a guy come up and start talking to me while turning a bowl on the lathe I want to turned my head the tool dug into the wood and pulled my finger between the toolredt and bowl. Luckily it wasn't a serious injury.
I remember once years ago, when I was working out in the garage, my son 10yrs old at the time came out to see me, I was operating some machine tool at the time. I was aware that he was near but continued to work. after a short time he came up behind and sort of jabbed me. As I already knew he was there it did not startle me, but I took advantage to make this a teaching moment. I am very sure my son has never anything like that ever again in his life...
While running work through a table saw, I had a frog leap across my field of vision between me and the work and land on my arm. It was extremely startling but I maintained my composure, completed the cut, shut off the saw and then pounded the little %#@%& into a gelatinous mass of amphibious DNA. It wasn't revenge for trying to startle me. I was just "enforcing" my MUST WEAR EYE PROTECTION rule.
I retired in 2023, starting in construction in 1974. Before you get a calculator out, that’s 49 years. Am a licensed Professional Engineer, a Certified Construction Manager and Certified Construction Trades Instructor. I can’t say enough how important this content is and how happy I was to see this. You left out two categories of safety that I have seen grow over the years: with the advent of battery tools, craftsmen have begun to forget about the power cables that are needed for corded devices and the hoses that provide air to pneumatic tools. Not only are they trip hazards, but they become worn and frayed with use. Both can be deadly if used incorrectly, allowed to come in contact with the tool and/or not properly maintained. Thank you for the timely and important video!
Some tools that are battery powered, shouldn't be. Don't just buy batteryed tools because you want a complete DeWalt (or other) kit. R/O sanders are the worst offenders. No one has ever made one that comfortably fits a hand after 10 minutes of constant use. Or that the battery can last as long as your hand can. Try 1 hour with one of those. Then try that again with a corded one.
Many of the GC's here in Phoenix (and I'm sure elsewhere) require cords, hoses to be suspended overhead in a work site. Pain? Maybe, but you won't trip over them or get your cart stuck on them either.
@@mrcryptozoic817Even better if your compressor has sufficient capacity are the air powered ones - Dynabrade was my favorite. Just don’t try to run one on your $149 Home Depot kit compressor.
On the topic of nitrile gloves. They might be as soft as human flesh but I have witnessed a nitrile glove get caught on a drill bit. To this day I am unsure how it happened but it managed to twist up like a tourniquet around the end of his finger and remove the end of said finger at the outer most knuckle. It happened in the blink of an eye and it was permanent.
Right. Twisting it can cause layers of nitrile to stack and work together, becoming stronger than skin very quickly. If you stay very aware of what you’re doing, you can use a layer of dried glue on your digits to move something prickly through the tool. If you don’t, the lack of sensation can give you a false sense of what you’re touching and where, and lead to injury.
I want to reinforce that comment! Nitril gloves in my opinion are even worse than most cloth gloves. They are super stretchy and can build up a lot of tension that pulls you into the tool in no time.
I will have to say that I have learned a lot from watching your videos. My dad died 2 years ago this December and I inherited his workshop. I had only touched a drill and compound miter saw before that. Your safety advice has never failed me. Thank uou for all your help.
You left out a couple: - Not returning blades to 90 degrees after angle cuts; - Knocking fences out of square and walking away; - Leaving blade tension not in the agreed position; - Leaving tools attached to chucks (drill press, router table; milling machines) - Leaving cabinets doors open, especially upper ones that hit peoples heads - Not restocking lumber - Not cleaning glue and paint brushes
I would actually prefer if they left their 45 degree mitre locked in. I'm going to check it anyways, at least this way I know I'm not wasting 2 people's time.
All of those were covered under: -put everything as you found it - section -learn to use a broom / clean up tools and space after yourself you filthy animal - section
yea those are all pretty serious offenses. Especially leaving things that were square out of square especially if its just by a tiny bit. There is a good chance i wont notice that and find out the hard way.
Dude -- you're so spot on with every comment, everyone should listen intently. Your commitment to cover such necessities is admirable and deserves respect. For those of us in pursuit of woodworking perfection, your messages is a must to preserve our digits, so we may continue to improve and deliver what our creativity demands of us.
After 45 years in a professional shop, I think you pretty much nailed it. there are 2 things I would add. First, making conversation with anyone who is using a power tool. Let them finish and don't distract them. Second, If you cannot control the cut, don't make the cut. I don't care that you followed the "safety procedures". If you can't control the captured piece you don't make the cut.
As a retired foot surgeon I appreciate and can testify to the importance of protection and support for feet. Never encountered a foot injury from a table saw but many others from improper foot gear. Also true I always had music playing in the OR.
I've tried to adopt this policy, but I back slide frequently. For me I found the next best step was to dedicate that time after after breakfast on Sunday to put the entire shop area back into shape for my hobby work the next week. It's better do put everything away when you use it, but this is an almost as good solution.
At some point you're not going to want to get it in and out of the drawer 27 times a day so you leave it on the bench while you have a break. And it goes from there...
I remember working on a cylindrical grinder during my apprenticeship, one day and I heard a scream from the guy working on a centre lathe behind me. I turned around and saw his overall had become wrapped around the lathe leadscrew and he was being pulled into the chuck. Almost before I could move across the gangway the turner let out an almighty scream and forced himself away from the rotating chuck, I was absolutely amazed to see his overall split down the back seam and he just stepped backwards out of it. The incident could so easily have ended in a serious injury and now at 78 years old I remember it as well as the day it happened.
I was supporting the end of a long piece of 2x1 inch RHS that a colleague was drilling a 1 1/2” hole through, the drill swarf started to get too long for my comfort and just as I said break the swarf it caught his sleeve and started to wind his arm in, I had to decide whether to drop the end and risk shattering the drill and possibly causing more injuries so that I could reach the E stop or to shuffle along and reach it (it’s amazing how fast the brain evaluates possibilities in an emergency!) fortunately his overall sleeve started ripping along the seam and tore off at the shoulder, he escaped with a minor graze on the inside of arm, bloody lucky. I feel sure that had he been wearing new overalls that coincidentally were issued the next week his injuries would have been far more severe than the rotten 2 year old overalls he was wearing. The main lessons I learned that day were 1 never let the swarf get too long, 2 use a stand to support long work pieces
In highschool shop class one of the guys was using the jointer when his loose T shirt got caught and it started to pull him in. He was lucky that someone was standing near one of the whole-shop kill switches and looking in the right direction. He needed a new shirt but only had a couple scratches on his stomach. This was in the 90s and I would guess the machine was from the 60s. I dont remember what safety features the machine had but I doubt whatever there was had been bypassed
Great video, safety cannot be discussed or implemented enough. A clean shop is vital for safety too. I have literally walked out of those shops with junk, sawdust and tools lying around everywhere. Those shops are an accident waiting to happen. As usual you are on point as safety is number one.
As the only person working on my house remodel years ago, I made a personal rule for myself. I would work all day, clean up for dinner and then try going back to the shop to finish up a job or push into the next part of the remodel. Bad idea. That is when I would hit a water pipe with the sawzall or snip a live wire with the diagonal pliers. My brain just could not get back the focus in the evening after a meal. So my rule? No working in the shop after dinner.
This is really important because one may not feel tired but the brain is. I get quite stupid in the evening and start doing careless, clumsy, dumb stuff. Good one to remind us of.
48 years as a heavy equipment mechanic. You nailed it. I have seen a deglove, it is a quick way to empty your stomach, I still get queasy thinking about it. I have also seen too many finger amputations, worst one was my best man. One guy dug through the saw junk to find the finger to send to the hospital with him and I was down on my hands and knees wiping the blood up. A real shit day. Smoking, you come in my shop with any kind of a smoke you might just get a fire extinguisher in the face!
@@cobtheconquerorIn the last several decades, smoking indoors has thankfully become as acceptable as defacating in the corner of a room. No need to mention the obvious
I lost my dad to lung cancer. When I see a married man smoking, I’ll mention that his wife must really love him. They’ll ask why, and I’ll say, “because, during the last two years of your life, you’ll be too sick to wipe your own ass, and she’ll have to do it for you. Just like my mom had to do for my dad”.
@@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse The homeless and the smokers can keep each other company outside. Both parties leave their residues on the sidewalk for others to take care of
Here's a challenge. I moved into a retirement community with a shared workshop. The first thing I noticed was the disorganization. Imagine being a woman trying to tell guys in their 80's that the shop is a mess! I've had to work hard to get their respect by showing them photos of my projects and gently (very gently) teaching them some techniques! Everyone here has had their own shops and now must learn to share; at varying rates of compliance. Everyone here thinks they know about best about safety. Luckily no one has been injured. I've convinced folks (sort of) about shop organization and having safety rules; am slowly poking at it; that is to say, I get it organized and they don't screw it up--much. These rules are wonderful and match up pretty well what I'm trying to implement in our shop.
Organisation in any shop, especially in a shared one, is key to safe and enjoyable work. Making sure that tools are easy to find… and easy to return when the work is done. Whenever I get a new tool, even if it’s just a screwdriver, first thing I do is find and mark out a place to keep it. A place for every tool, and every tool in its place.
Not too far at all. One of the reasons I really like your channel is because of the emphasis you put on safety and on providing safety-specific content. A number of years ago I built a chuck box for my son's Boy Scout troop in my far-more-sparsely equipped shop. My good camping friend assisted and he wanted to be drinking beer while we were running the table saw, router, and hand-held power tools. I vetoed that immediately and forcefully; beers would be opened once our work was finished and all tools were powered down for the night. He recognized not to question that decision and we're still very good friends, with all our fingers still intact. But if I made an issue out of cleaning up I'd be banned from my own garage. That's an OFI for me. I'm in a very hot and humid part of the country in an open garage. I bought a pair of mesh, rubber soled shoes with composite safety toes specifically for shop use. I've never dropped anything on a foot but I still consider it some of the best money I've spent.
I was remodeling my kitchen and my bro-in-law wanted to have a beer while we worked. I set the same rule for drinks - after clean up is done. He left and I never had a problem working with him again.
You will drop something, and then you will be VERY glad you have them. Safety shoes are key. I catch a lot of grief from family because I wear steel toes even inside the house after work. Yet sure as heck, the other morning getting dressed before I put them on I dropped something on my toe and now the nail bed on my big toe is bruised and bloody. I started wearing them all of the time because one morning 20+ years ago as I was getting ready for work early one morning, I was walking from my back porch into the living room through a sliding door doorway, and dropped something VERY heavy on my foot. I had to carefully extract my foot from the door track, which cut the bottom of my toes down to the bone. After driving myself to the hospital, the ER doc kept trying to say that there was no way that this was a home injury..... Screw that. Now I wear shoes inside the house and vacuum twice as often. It's worth it. That, and when my daughters were little they liked to stand on my toes and pretend to dance as I moved and swung them around. It is one of my favorite memories of their childhood, as it is theirs. My grandchildren will have the same memories, as that safety equipment will mean that I still have feet for which they can stand upon.
Nitrile gloves...last week I had to unclog my rental's sewer using a power sewer augur. Nitrile gloves WILL wrap up without tearing! Had I not had darn good reflexes I'm convinced it would have destroyed a finger joint and possibly broken my wrist. Learned a valuable lesson-
As a construction worker supervisor for over 30 years, every time I has a new employee, I would have them go through my work trucks and become familiar with where all the tools went. In which door on the tool truck, tray or rack. If I found any of my tools in the wrong place on my trucks and I know who the careless one was, he got the job of taking all of the tools out, clean out the truck, drawers shelves and tools, and put them in the proper place. That usually broke the habit of placing the tools in the wrong place. Many don't know just how much time can be lost on a job in one year looking for tools. Today, I do it in my own shop and get really pissed when I can't find a tool.
If sent some one to my service truck I could tell them it in the second door drivers side third shelf in the back on your right etc. If I went to look for something and it wasn’t there it was missing or miss placed. I had one guy wilth the terrible habit of taking tools out looking for another and stacking them on the shoulder or stuck inside ladders on shoulder of truck and leaving them there. To many times we lost tools or bounced down the interstate while I’m worrying about someone’s windshield. Huge frustration followed by ass chewing repeatedly. While I was not perfect especially after a late night on the job all are tired and agree straitening will happen next morning. Some times it didn’t till I just couldn’t stand it any longer. Nothing is better than an organized tool area and non trip hazard work area. Area is a whole other story 😡🤣
I agree with all you said, especially putting tools back where they belong. Our first shop was a single car garage with almost every tool we currently have in our fully furnished 20x24 shop. Everything in the garage shop had it's place in order for everything to fit in there, so it HAD to go back where it belonged.
Was the nurse in the ER when the patient arrived by ambulance. He decided to have a few beers while he was cutting down a couple of trees. Yep, the chainsaw decided to take off his left arm just above his elbow. He was very fortunate to have a buddy there who applied a tourniquet and drove him over a half hour to meet the ambulance. Which took another half hour to get to the ER.
I worked over 30 years in an ER in a logging community and didn't see any chainsaw injuries as bad as you described. Not sure why. Did see lots of other severe injuries and quite a few fatalities though.
I'm an ancient (really old) novice when it comes to woodworking, and I work pretty much alone. I depend on the good advice I get from your videos...I make some of the mistakes you point out but now that I know better....
When I started work with my dad I was given a broom and told, “When you know how to use that tool, you’ll be shown how to use other tools.” To this day, I clear up after every operation, even if it’s just sweeping the dust into a convenient pile in a corner to be picked up later. Speaking of working with dads, how’s Moustache Mike? I keep expecting him to pop up and give us a cameo on one of your vids.
All your points are spot on. I don't even like drinks on any of the table tools whether they are nichol plated or not. One point that i would add is take regular breaks amd recognize when you are tired and sore . Just this weekend i was doing a job replacing some of that horrid plastic eavetrough on a house. Its up and down a ladder all day long.. i was exhausted but wanted to get it done... realized after that i was an accident waiting to happen. My mind was numb and muscles ached from just being on my feet.. hats when accidents happen. should have taken a break and had a coffee or something and do a reset.
When i was an apprentice, i was taught to always wear work clothes when in the shop. Never wear any clothing item that you care about. That was sound advice! The reason is, that nothing should take any part of your focus or attention from the task at hand - which it will do if your worry is to not ruin your nice shirt. For the same reason, i am not a fan of the fancy and expensive workbenches i see some youtubers have. A workbench is a shop tool, and sometimes it will take a gouge, but rather that than your hand!
Two things to add. Don't put a plastic bag over a coworker's head so he can't breathe as a joke and don't retaliate by tightening a zip tie around the first guy's neck. I was told this story by a chemical company rep I talked to at a conference. Fortunately there was someone close with side cutters for the second guy. Both were fired immediately.
I would go further and say no practical jokes of any kind. In my experience table saws have a very limited sense of humour and therefore so do I. Surprising someone into a sudden movement or finding that a tool or machine does not operate the way they expect is a recipe fir disaster. Pranks and power tools go together the same was as the words "nitro" and "glycerine".
Was told a story one time while working at a truss plant of a guy who goosed a friend of his with an air hose which gave him an embolism and killed him.
Your safety advice is always appreciated. My first lessons were as a child in the fifties at home and at my father's building sites. The concepts haven’t changed, nor have most of the specifics, and yet many still haven’t learned some seventy years on. Thanks to you and others like you, some will.
All of this is valid, Nubs. One thing I noticed once I got a pair of really good noise-cancelling over-ear headphones (yep, with bluetooth for the tunes too) - I can't even hear my table saw running. So it's a safety trade off, maybe? I'm not suggesting NOT using hearing pro, but I've needed to build in an extra step of visual inspection and re-mashing the red 'stop' button. I'll add a half-joking suggestion to your list of Verboten Acts: - Failure to keep every little piece of offcut no matter how odd, because it may be needed 'later'
I love your rules. I established a multitude of similar safety habits in my shop over the last 30 years, even though I'm the only one there. I've enjoyed keeping all 10 fingers along with functional eyes, ears, and lungs.
I hadn’t thought about gloves. I started using shop gloves a few years ago, and at first didn’t like them because it was hard to hold screws etc but later got to love them for the lack of scrapes and such. I hadn’t considered their danger with saws though, and I bet the whole protection gained by my sawstop is likely lowered with gloves. Thanks for the tip!
Your sawstop does nothing if you are wearing latex or nitrite gloves. Well it will work perfectly once the blade has removed the glove, some skin, muscle bones and generally made one heck of a mess
Many tools don't have enough torque to do anything like deglove your hand. I think snug fitting work gloves are OK for cordless drills and angle grinders and circular saws. Maybe even the tablesaw. It is the lathes and drill presses where you want to think twice about that (especially if you are running at low speed on the drill-press or lathe).
Agree 100 percent. Also, I took the blade guard/off my cheap bench saw so I can accomodate building a larger table around it. But I'm going to figure out a way of making it work with the retrofit because I don't know how much luck I have left. Sometimes we don't get a second chance on being safe.
Along with long sleeves and jewelry, if you have long hair, it’s pony tail time, or even a hair net. In high school metal shop, I witnessed a friend get his hair tangled in the spindle of a drill press. In milliseconds, his head was jerked into the spindle, and a nickel-sized chunk of his scalp was yanked out! Talk about a bloody mess! Also, in my first year at SLB, I was a sheet metal fabricator. My best friend was working along side me as we drilled out hundreds of holes for pop rivets on a truck cabin. Suddenly Mario recoiled from the truck and turned to me. A 1/8” drill bit had shattered and impaled his safety glasses like a tiny spear. No injury, but a learned lesson for sure. Our boss framed that glasses and hung them in his office. Lastly, as an 18 year old kid, I saw something that I remember vividly to this day. One of the job expediters, Ernie, walked past my work area to the office. As he was entering the office, he fell to the floor with a sudden death heart attack. Nobody knew CPR. Ernie died before my eyes. Please get CPR and First Aid Training.
Absolutely, also learn where the Defibrillator is stored and know how to use it, it can make all the difference. The flip side is my dad had one of his Normandy veteran friends drop dead in front of him, CPR was instigated immediately, it turns out he had a massive aortic aneurysm and nothing would have saved him. Nobody regretted trying CPR though.
Now retired ..... in my shop there was no drinking during lunch breaks (very common to have a beer or two for lunch here in the UK). A drink at lunch time got you an afternoon of unpaid holiday!! Great vid content ...... everybody please pay attention.
I have been lecturing about management, OSHA safety and writing employee rules for over 50 years and I can guarantee you nothing you said surprised me and I totally agree with you. Music should be background noise not loud enough to inhibit communication. You may, with some employees, have to control loose hair as well. Long hair on men or women can be a very big safety issue.
I worked with a guy who was almost completely bald - in his early twenties - because his long hair had gotten caught in a drill press when he was seventeen.
I wouldnt try to argue the point with you in general much less in YOUR shop. You saved my life with your video about the chainsaw disc, nuff said. You may remember me telling you about that. You keep right on with what you do, especially safety.
I added ceiling speakers to my shop...I work alone of course. It find it to aid in the ARTISTRY of our Craft and help remove distraction around in order to FOCUS on the task at HAND so to speak. During a production phase of cutting of course I just use headphones, but during assembly, staining and non mechanical type equipment..the CLUB is open. classic Rock, Blues, Jazz, Dub Step, Sounds of Spain...its all good. Artist Sound for Artist work. Love your show, and thanks for the reminder of important things to longevity, Organization, cleanliness, and SAFTEY of what a shop MUST ALWAYS BE.
All good advice. I worked in a wood factory after high school. Looking around the break room one day I noticed about half the workers were missing fingers. There was also a one-armed fork lift driver. He was very good. There was seasoned birch logs coming in on one end of the build8ng. They got ripped down to 4" wide boards that were glued up and pressed in an induction press to make 3' X 4' boards. Everything the factory made was made from those boards. There were no guards or safety devices on any machine. I still have all my fingers and arms. The factory is long gone. It had a sawdust furnace for the kilns. One day the furnace blew up.
I agree with all of those rules as they are the same in my shop. I do make one very slight exception. If I am turning something with resin. A tight fitting glove on the one hand just to prevent some of those glass like shards from sticking into my hand. Once it’s roughed in the glove comes off.
I would never wear flip flops or sandles in the workshop, but I did break a toe when I dropped a cutting board onto regular shoes. Now I wear steel toe Keen work shoes. They are very comfortable and my toes feel safe.
The amount of people that I hear about not wearing safety toe (steel or compensate) because they are "uncomfortable" or will "cut your toes off!" is wild. Even in professional shops that I have applied to to try and get a joiner apprenticeship (which is going by the wayside to go into electrical). If I ran a shop and I didn't see the green CSA triangle you'd be out until you get a pair or you'd be looking for a new shop. I have dropped to many things on my feet and bashed my toes into to many corners. Breaking toes and being in a shop sucks.
I always, always put my tools back in their place. My dad was a joiner and he taught me to clean up properly at the end of the day but I also clean as I go along because it's safer. I'm not slipping on sawdust or tripping over offcuts. In the past when I was a bit lazy and didn't clean I found that somehow I made more mistakes or that the job didn't turn out as well as it should have. A simple video but excellent too. From the UK.
I would add: Disconnect power tools from the power source when they are not in use, and ALWAYS disconnect any power tool when making any adjustments to the tool or reaching into the tool for any reason (changing or adjusting bits/blades/etc.).
So, this comment reminded me of something I read in an owners manual (not MY owners manual of course...just one I found discarded at some random friend's house...ManCard protected). You know those pesky 'safety' warnings they write (probably because of somebody's mistake)...well one I read for a saw read something like, "STOP SAW BEFORE REMOVING BLADE!" Really?? What genius needs to be told that? 🤔 (there must be a juicy story there for that one.)
I used to work in a shop where anything goes and the boss would bring beer at 5:00 on Friday even though we still had hours of work left to do. It didn't seem like a big deal but it was and thankfully I realized that before something bad happened. I love the level of safety you promote. But I will wear my flip flops pretty much wherever I want outside of the shop. I get pedicures (and compliments) to keep things looking nice, and I can easily walk 10km in them without any physical issues, even silently.
Love the safety tips. I always read the monthly safety brochures that my father brought home from work. Without realizing it, I took all of that information with me when I go to the field in my construction related job. I often get heckled for doing things a different way than the quick "normal" way, but I know that there is less chance of me getting injured my way than their way. No job-related injuries in my 50 years on the job for me, but I have had the unfortunate task of taking a coworker to the ER a couple of times.
Grab assing is a good way to lose parts unexpectedly. There's a TikTok thing going on where people try and startle a co-worker or family. Doesn't have a place in the shop.
That sort of thing has no place in any environment where tools are being used. Something As simple as chopping veggies can cost you a fingertip if you are startled. Throw power into the mix and it's fingers through a bandsaw or tablesaw. Fingers trapped in a motorcycle drive chain or serpentine belt on a car. or the worst I have seen. Fingers in a 25 ton powerhammer....
In my 35 years as an anesthesiologist I have seen multiple workshop injuries, including a professional cabinet maker loosing multiple fingers. I applaud your shop discipline. Same as in the OR.
Slight variant on putting things back--if you know where you got it do so! If not, leave it on the bench so I can put it back rather than searching for wherever you happened to put it.
That's what I tell my wife, who rarely goes in my shop. She can borrow anything I have, but just leave it on the bench for me to put away. That way I can check it for any damage, wipe it down, then put it in its proper place. I made up a small tool bag for her, a tape measure, several types of pliers, screwdrivers, torpedo level, etc. This has eleminated 99% of her trips to my shop.
I saw a mate of mine at School get dragged into and under a Lathe chuck. Loose Woolen Jumper Got away luckily with severe bruising because the single phase motor stalled out and we got to the E stop (40+ years ago and still fitted!). Do that with a three phase motor or larger bit of gear would really have ended badly.
You nailed everything you mentioned. My biggest peeve is a sloppy, messy shop. Keep it clean, put tools away where they belong when done with them, clean up any mess that is made, and everything else along those lines.
I was cutting up an area rug with a hooked blade. I slipped and cut through my tennis shoes and across my big toe. Four stiches later I learned never to work in my garage "shop" without my steel toe shoes on. Same shoes I use for mowing the lawn by the way.
I only have myself in the shop. But here is when I kick myself out to take a breather: 1. Working too fast; rushing around and rushing cuts; not being careful with the tools. 2. After I make a really dumb mistake and get mad at myself. This is when I take a 5-10 minute break before I resume working with really sharp tools. 3. Working tired. I don’t go in my shop when I am tired and if I break this rule, I still don’t turn on power tools that could really hurt me or use sharp hand tools that are going to hurt me or the wood such as a chisel. P.s. my whole shop could be nickel plated but if I spilled a drink on a tool, I would get quite upset and would probably need a 15 minute timeout… once I cleaned up the liquid.
I can add: like what we are used to in construction sites - a safety training at the beginning of work and a test exam to validate that any one working on the construction site knows and understands basic safety rules and guidelines is a must before proceeding to work - this is needed even when using hand tools
you would think those would be so obvious that they don't require mentioning, but if he had to call out someone on wearing flip flops, then I guess everything needs to be pointed out.
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Agree with all your points. In my basement shop, I have all my stationary tools (lathe, table saw, band saw, jointer) wired to 220 and connected to power with an extension cord that is moved from from tool to tool as needed. No tool can be turned on without the extension cord. When I am not in the shop, the extension cord is coiled and put away. Prevents inadvertent powered of any tool.
They all sound reasonable. I smashed my big toe wearing flip-flops...ironically I always wore steel toes except for this one day I was just cleaning up a little!
I dropped a chisel while barefoot. It landed point down. I'm lucky I didn't lose a toe. It caught the side of my toe and just left a big gash that needed a couple of stitches.
I understand. We have a makerspace with over 300 people and a 3000sqft wood shop. Finding a tool can sometimes be a frustrating experience. And don't get me started on drill bits. Just because a drill index has 115 drills, it doesn't mean there are extras.
I'm retired now, however as a general contractor, I always banded radios on the worksite. When you have a loud radio playing, so that you can hear it across the job site, you also cannot hear a coworker who has injured himself and cannot yell. From personnel experience.
@@perfectlyinsane1376 That's not true, even though people may perceive it that way. Music is vibration which creates an emotional response by inducing rhythmic patters in the nervous system of the listener. If those rhythms are out of sinc' with the machine you are working with, then beware. It's better to listen to what the machine is telling you. If you want to understand the possible effects of sonic vibration, research "Sound Seven" or the reasons for drivers crossing the central reservation, in the early days of UK motorways. One frequency induces excitement, the other euphoria and both are strong components of modern music.
@@farrier2708 Different people process differently. What saved my grades during my undergrad was listening to music. For a lot of people, if you find a task too familiar your mind can drift. Music can act like chewing a gum while driving, allowing you to be more alert. But I don't advise it for everyone as I know people who genuinely do get distracted.
In a Hodinkee article, Dan Spitz (guitarist for metal band Anthrax, who is now one of the finest watchmakers in the world), mentioned that he noticed a Swiss master watchmaker working on a very complicated timepiece and turns out he was blasting Slayer in his headphones. And that most of the masters there are blasting something while they're working. I guess I should try headphones again myself...
Working tired is a pet peeve of mine. If I were running a commercial shop, or allowed people use my hobby shop, they would get tossed out working tired.
Hear here! I can text my boss at 10pm any weeknight if I'm at a show so long as it's an amazing show. He won't expect me in before 10am. That's the kind of team I'm on. Longest job I've ever held. After almost 10 years, I'm one of the top guys there. I send that to #dev-team at least once a quarter. I mean, it costs me the time spent going to a great show on a school night plus the time I spent sleeping in, but I get so much more out of my team than I ever expected. If a critical bug report comes in on a Saturday night at 2am, at a show or not, it's hotfixed by 2:20. I build and repair guitars in my heated attached garage, alone. If something goes wrong, nobody is going to be able to hear me screaming for help. Garages are kind of built that way. "Go make your noise over there. By yourself". I love this channel. I share it with my son. While I want him to build whatever nonsense he want's build, I'm 52 and after a decade in the 90's working technical theatre for bands, I know what tinnitus and living with hearing loss is like. I still have 10 fingers, 10 toes, two legs and (thanks for the advice grandpa) two arms. DIY is not an excuse to ignore your safety. Thanks to this channel for everything they've ever taught me. I would super thanks if I could.
So many studies about how sleep deprivation equates to driving drunk(learned this while doing heavy haul in the military where they purposely deprive you of sleep)
@@cidercreekranch I had to miss a once in a lifetime concert happening on my birthday that a loved one splurged in for over priced tickets because an asshole coworker came to work knowingly sick with COVID, and got me sick as well. I hate those types of people
As a former machinist, I can fully support the no gloves and no loose clothing recommendations. I saw a glove catch in a mill and pull a finger apart (let's not talk about the tendons), and a loose apron pull my uncle into a CNC mill--thankfully he was able to wrestle himself out of his shirt to escape. Both men had over thirty years of experience; never get complacent.
Absolutely! Dicking around in a workshop full of power tools, or worse: dicking around _with_ the power tools, is a recipe for disaster! My dad used to work at the Ford factory, back when we still had one. One of his stories: the jackasses dicking around with the compressed air gun, sticking it into people's butts and pulling the trigger, because "ha-ha funny". Until one guy "ha-ha funnied" his way to the hospital with a ruptured intestine.
I remember years ago on the first day of industrial arts class (metal & wood shop) in jr. high school the teacher saying "In the battle of wood and metal against flesh and bone wood and metal win every time!"
One thing I would seriously worry about when I was part of a stained glass course was whenever someone would be yawning and tired while working with the vertical saw and the grinding wheels. Being tired, or even the slightest bit drowsy is not conducive to a safe working environment.
The music thing is interesting. I have ADHD (like actually so, full with the medical diagnosis and treatment plan) and for whatever reason when I'm doing things with my hands, having that auditory stimuli just helps me not get bored and therefore not get distracted. It's not like I'm even paying attention to the music to any strong degree. It's more that the moment I notice I'm paying attention to the music, I shift my focus back to the work, whereas without the music that's when the mind starts wandering uncontrollably for me.
That's interesting, the same thing may work somewhat in reverse, with physical stimuli making auditory attention easier. I was recently having a conversation with someone who makes little wooden "bears" (they are abstract in form but you can see what they are) which are intended as comfort pieces to hold in your hand (they fit your grip really well and are oddly reassuring as a result). Anyway, it seems somebody bought one for their young son who has ADHD, and he started taking it into school. Giving a child with attention issues something to fiddle with during lessons might seem like a recipe for disaster, but it's apparently turned out to have completely the opposite effect, his performance at school has shot up.
@@numberkruncherr Oh yeah it totally works in reverse as well. The way I describe the mechanism at play is that when both senses are being stimulated, it gives me more control over which one I "focus" on. I definitely listen better to auditory things when I'm fidgeting with something. But more importantly, I can control which one is the dominant sense I'm focusing on conciously. My experience *generally* is that when there's a void in one of my senses that's not being engaged, that's when the "wandering" in my thoughts starts being very difficult to control. If I have some degree of stimuli in most of the senses, it makes it much easier to choose which one I'm actually paying attention to. I remember in class rooms that were completely silent during tests being very distracted by things like mechanical clocks or footsteps out in the hall, because they're so distinctive that they pull your attention. Something like music is much better because it is continuous and can just very easily start being treated as (pleasant) background noise. All of this is just my experience with it though, so your mileage may vary!
Love this content! My shop is also carpeted and the company is named Barefoot Woodworking, but I do wear shoes, usually! Thanks for another great video.
I make toys on a small scale and often do small jobs for neighbors probono. I had a customer order a couple hundred toys of one type and was happily setting up my TS for a cut with a very low tolerance. I had just finished setting up and was ready to make the cuts when a neighbor came into the shop and wanted to know if I would rip a 2 by for her, told her yes just wait until I make these cuts and then no problem. She looked at my saw loosened the fence and reset it to where she wanted the board cut. I smiled and ripped the board and she grabbed her boards and asked "do I owe you anything" and got a shocked look when I pointed to a sign about costs and said yeah 2 hours labor for saw set up and making the cut total $150, she ran out of the shop and has never come back.
You're too nice. When she touched the saw I would have thrown her board in the street and told her never to come back, and escorted her out with a high deciBel lecture on the matter. But I'm one of the Women With Power Tools.
I remember when you had a run in with one f those chainsaw wheels. You were lucky. Your injuries could have been much worse. When I was a kid, in the 60s and 70s, my Dad worked for IBM performing maintenance and repair on IBM equipment in customer's office areas. These were the days of mechanical printers and programs on punch cards. He had to wear the standard IBM "uniform", suit, white shirt, and tie. He always wore a short sleeve shirt and clip on tie to prevent getting sucked into a running piece of equipment. Same idea, different environment.
I was cutting bowl blanks on my bandsaw from fresh logs. I would cut them and then put sealent on one end. I wasn't thinking and set all of them on my tablesaw (because I had so many my workbench was full) to dry; planning on turning them over and sealing the other ends in a few hours. Life happened, and I didn't get back to it for almost a week. When I lifted the blanks up, my entire tablesaw top was orange with rust. I didn't even think about the moisture in the blanks seeping out onto the tablesaw. I never have been able to get all of the ptting and rust out.
Big safety concern in our shop (cabinetry and custom tables) was to NEVER approach someone while they were operating a machine. Don't tap me on the shoulder when I'm using the tablesaw or any other finger-removing equipment.
Before I retired I made / repaired furniture for static caravans . The material was mainly laminated chipboard so the table saw was set up with a scoring blade and a fine tooth blade. Then some melt would come in and cut 4x2 ‘s and not change the blade , argh
I'm a military vet and when I got into the service one of the first things we were told was to remove any rings we had when we were working. One of our staff even told us about how someone they knew had their wedding band catch on the tailgate while they were jumping out of a truck. While they moved forward out of the truck, their finger didn't. It just isn't worth it.
rings are so under-rated... worked retail back in the day... girl climbs shelving to get a t-shirt from a higher spot and not have to grab a ladder (mistake no.1)... jumps off the rack (only 20 inches or so high)... ring gets stuck between the metal bracket and the shelf (mistake no.2)... nearly ripped all the skin/muscle along her finger... all to save a few seconds while working minimum wage at 17. Don't wear rings at work period, and don't try to save a second by cutting corners. IT IS NOT WORTH IT! speaking of trucks... jumping out of the back/ over the side of a truck feels cool... doing it repeatedly, full height (3-4 feet) onto concrete while wearing heavy steel toe boots... hope your kids don't want to play when you're a bit older, those knees ain't bending.
Yep, had a friends hubby catch his ring while fixing the chain switch on a ceiling fan...when he slipped on the stepstool, he fell but most of his finger and the ring stayed up there. Amazingly, his hand healed...but nobody at that party ever wore a ring without thinking hard.
i had a smile on my face when i watched this because when i was a young man (many years ago) i could find my tools ,whether they be mechanics or wood, wherever they happened to be when i was done with the task at hand. Many years later i learned that the only way i would know where my tools were would be to put them in the same place every time. I now have a very small shop and it is imperative that i return everything to its proper place and clean as often as every operation ( i went from a 20' x 30' wood shop to an 8 1/2' x 20' cargo trailer)
I am very bad about cleaning up before walking out at night but definitely will do it by the next day. And yes, glasses and ear plugs are mandatory in my place as well as actual shoes if anyone is going to help me
These are all super reasonable. I had a friend who lost their finger in an accident involving a metal ring. I’ve never worn a ring in the shop since. Same with gloves and everything else you said… except I sometimes keep it messier than i should. That one is hard to break.
I agree with all except the music scenario. I believe working with power tools requires most of your senses, even hearing, to do the best possible job. I believe in music in the shop, even at very high levels, but it will never drown out the sound of your machine and what kind of audible feedback it is giving you. I will say that in a shop like yours that could very well have multiple machines running at one time and the incredible Db levels, headphones are probably the only way to go.
And stop working if the wife says to watch the kids while takes off for a while . . She got mad cuz I stopped working and watched the kids. She said lots of other guys watch the kids and work. She's gone!
A worker in a shop I'm familiar with tried using a massive flush cut bit designed for a shaper free hand in a router. It had a bearing at the top but not the bottom. He about lost his place in the opposable thumb club when the bottom of the bit dug in.
I was working on site at a utility and I was painting something that was a bit off the ground so I was on a ladder facing away from the ladder painting. Someone approached me and told me that I had to face the direction of the ladder then cited some OSHA regulation. I complied immediately and the funniest part was it seemed like he had worked himself up for an argument and actually acted/sounded deflated when I complied so easily. But it was because as you say "my shop, my rules" I kept doing it elsewhere but every time I returned to that site I followed the rules because that's what you do, especially when you are on the clock.
Lots of people hate confrontation so he may indeed have had to work himself up and prepare for an argument. He may have been very happy that you were happy to comply.
I'm quite capable on ladder stunt work in the real world and always hear "if osha comes by and sees that" To which I reply "if osha comes by and has anything to say hes gonna need his benefits to fix his face when I break it with a hammer".
once u step from a ladder that isn't where it normally used to be (because u turned while up or whatever) u'll realize where that rule comes from. I learned that from a small 3 step ladder the hard way. Took a month for the arm that coped most of the fall to feel normal again.
I agree with everything with one thought which is around loud music. Awareness of your surroundings is important when others are working near you. If a hazard exists, someone with headphones and loud music playing may miss that hazard. This is a great awareness video.
I teach woodworking at a high school. In my shop it’s the equipment operators responsibility to make sure everyone else has ppe on before they use any loud equipment. Helps with personal safety responsibilities and helps them build good communication. Another unique shop rule is extended personal space. Teenagers are still learning social skills and my base rule is the standard personal space is just doubled. It’s not elbow room, it’s 2 arms length.
FYI! Feet are not nasty. Do you call your hands nasty? Feet are like hands, just in the other end of your body. But I agree, no sandals or flipflops in shop.
1:40 Sandals in the workshop is a no-go since they don't protect the feet from having something heavy drop on them, but not all sandals have the drawbacks that you describe here. Sandals can have a sole that's just as supportive as that of a closed shoe, and they do come with some distinct advantages, too. Mainly, since sandals don't trap your feet in an enclosed space that, at least in the summer, is going to be moist from sweat (I don't care what the ad said, your socks will hold on to a good part of that sweat, creating a moist and warm environment), the environment isn't as suitable for bacteria and fungal growth, preventing your feet from smelling. (Even more important, if you have an open wound on your foot, like a badly ingrown toenail, that moist and warm environment can facilitate infection)
I agree with everything except music. Don't wear hearing protection with music in it. You should be able to hear odd or bad noises that might show up while using a power tool. My biggest diehard rule is to put everything away at the end of the day.
Spot on, agree with everything except listening to music on headphones, in an emergency they cannot hear alarms and you cannot get the persons attention easily. Your shop your rules
I agree but I'd balance it by saying a single earbud is fine. If you can't get their attention when they have only a single earbud on then you can't get their attention at all.
I always instruct to leave my hand tools neatly on my workbench etc and I'll put them away myself. I don't mind at all. I get to inspect and make sure they go in the proper place. Just make sure they are CLEAN!
My shop is the third stall of my garage, and for a long time, it was kept pretty clean and clutter free. Then the wife started to keep more stuff in the garage, and it has flooded over to the shop. And having someone else in the shop, that doesn't put things back where they got them, and leaving all sorts of stuff lying around, should prompt a no wife in the shop rule. But let's see who can get away with that.
After spending two weekends building storage in my garage shop to try and make sense of my wife's clutter, I decided to reverse my pickup into the shop next weekend, and just de-clutter that shit permanently! Some of these clutter boxes have been floating around for more than 15 years!
"...or from ticking me off." LOLOLOL James, I love this video. You are such a blessing to our woodworking community! I agree with everything you said, too!
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I thought this was going to be serious. Turns out you interjected some self righteous bs. I hope you are humbled by your own stupid mistake.
I would add loose long hair, unmasked long beards and wearing a tie to the list. I had a neighbour who scalped himself whilst using a lathe. He still wears a bandage on his head more than 35 years later. And a necktie tie can snap your neck if you get caught around a piece of heavy machinery.
@@RWBHere All rules depend on what tools there are. If there are no spinning tools, where anything can get trapped, then you are safe from many that you mentioned. Still tie or long hair just go in the way with your work, but aren't unsafe. For me it is safe with sandals (but the ones tied also on your ankle!) - if you are not having any hammers, heavy or sharp materials etc. it's only a matter of hygiene. Still a good idea to use full shoes though, having dust between your toes is unpleasant.
As for music: just play something accepted by everyone, but not same thing over and over again, which happens with radio stations that repeat their 20-30 songs playlist.
If I was to add something, then it would be body awareness for people only starting to operate tools. So often people forget they have second hand and continously place it where it shouldn't be, just because they need to do something with it, especially dangerous when working with saws, high voltage, etc.
My wife's grandfather was a cabinet maker and had a modest workshop in his basement where he made things after he retired. I inherited his 1947 Delta Unisaw, which I restored. When I was sanding down the top, I deliberately left the rings from his coffee cups as a reminder and an homage to a great man. The saw still runs great today.
My favorite part of my old unisaw is the unifence
@@FffEar69 That is the ONE thing about my saw that I would change! 😂
Bravo! All excellent advice.
One thing you missed, that some people do, is rather than listening to music, is listening to talk shows or podcasts. Listening to any talking while working with tools is very dangerous. It's also will reduce the quality of work while doing any technical work. The only talking that is appropriate while using tools is when you are being instructed how to do something, and that should be done carefully also. Any kind of talking requires that your concentration be split. Song lyrics do not, even when singing along. I know, I have proved in the past at a couple of workplaces.
@@craigsmith3645 We don't all have the same mental capacity.
@FffEar69 that is still the best tablesaw fence ever designed.
"No startling people" is a rule that I would also love to see implemented. If you hear, for instance, the table saw running (or any saw in the shop), you WAIT to enter the shop until the tool is off. Also, no pranking people by startling them. That is an instant (and probably violent) perm ban. Can't have you in the shop if that is your idea of humor. No matter how loudly you proclaim that "Its just a prank, bro!"
Nope, there is a light switch outside the door that turns on a red light inside the shop. You want my attention, for any reason, you turn on that switch and wait until I come to the door. “NO ENTRY” means ABSOLUTELY NO ENTRY unless I invite you inside. No borrowing tools or money are rules I follow religiously as well. Save yourself an *** chewing and don’t even ask to borrow my tools.
I’m not a tool rental nor a bank, I don’t make loans of tools or money.
@@DeputatKaktus agree 💯
I learned back in shop class in high school never to react to anything outside of what your doing. Had a guy come up and start talking to me while turning a bowl on the lathe I want to turned my head the tool dug into the wood and pulled my finger between the toolredt and bowl. Luckily it wasn't a serious injury.
I remember once years ago, when I was working out in the garage, my son 10yrs old at the time came out to see me, I was operating some machine tool at the time. I was aware that he was near but continued to work. after a short time he came up behind and sort of jabbed me. As I already knew he was there it did not startle me, but I took advantage to make this a teaching moment. I am very sure my son has never anything like that ever again in his life...
While running work through a table saw, I had a frog leap across my field of vision between me and the work and land on my arm. It was extremely startling but I maintained my composure, completed the cut, shut off the saw and then pounded the little %#@%& into a gelatinous mass of amphibious DNA.
It wasn't revenge for trying to startle me.
I was just "enforcing" my MUST WEAR EYE PROTECTION rule.
I should kick that guy out who sometimes leaves a mess in the shop... but it's me.😢
Yes, doing a project long hours and tired the mess can wait until tomorrow.
@@tonysheerness2427eventually tomorrow comes
I feel attacked, yet validated... my excuse is this: "But I can now see where the spiders live, and leave them alone while they keep gnats off me."
I am also guilty of this. I'll put a few things away then decide I don't want to because I want to watch tv or something else.
Sucks being the boss, 'cuz you can't fire yourself! 😆😂😄
I retired in 2023, starting in construction in 1974. Before you get a calculator out, that’s 49 years. Am a licensed Professional Engineer, a Certified Construction Manager and Certified Construction Trades Instructor. I can’t say enough how important this content is and how happy I was to see this. You left out two categories of safety that I have seen grow over the years: with the advent of battery tools, craftsmen have begun to forget about the power cables that are needed for corded devices and the hoses that provide air to pneumatic tools. Not only are they trip hazards, but they become worn and frayed with use. Both can be deadly if used incorrectly, allowed to come in contact with the tool and/or not properly maintained.
Thank you for the timely and important video!
you are correct, excellent point
Thanks for this. I do not like battery operated tools most of the time, so this is an especially useful reminder to me.
Some tools that are battery powered, shouldn't be. Don't just buy batteryed tools because you want a complete DeWalt (or other) kit.
R/O sanders are the worst offenders. No one has ever made one that comfortably fits a hand after 10 minutes of constant use. Or that the battery can last as long as your hand can. Try 1 hour with one of those. Then try that again with a corded one.
Many of the GC's here in Phoenix (and I'm sure elsewhere) require cords, hoses to be suspended overhead in a work site. Pain? Maybe, but you won't trip over them or get your cart stuck on them either.
@@mrcryptozoic817Even better if your compressor has sufficient capacity are the air powered ones - Dynabrade was my favorite. Just don’t try to run one on your $149 Home Depot kit compressor.
On the topic of nitrile gloves. They might be as soft as human flesh but I have witnessed a nitrile glove get caught on a drill bit. To this day I am unsure how it happened but it managed to twist up like a tourniquet around the end of his finger and remove the end of said finger at the outer most knuckle. It happened in the blink of an eye and it was permanent.
well, now I know that
Right. Twisting it can cause layers of nitrile to stack and work together, becoming stronger than skin very quickly. If you stay very aware of what you’re doing, you can use a layer of dried glue on your digits to move something prickly through the tool. If you don’t, the lack of sensation can give you a false sense of what you’re touching and where, and lead to injury.
I want to reinforce that comment! Nitril gloves in my opinion are even worse than most cloth gloves. They are super stretchy and can build up a lot of tension that pulls you into the tool in no time.
Agreed. I assumed Stumpy meant this for finishing and not tool work. If it spins, only use the skins.
No gloves or sleeves when working with rotating machinery. Asking for trouble.
I will have to say that I have learned a lot from watching your videos. My dad died 2 years ago this December and I inherited his workshop. I had only touched a drill and compound miter saw before that. Your safety advice has never failed me. Thank uou for all your help.
You left out a couple:
- Not returning blades to 90 degrees after angle cuts;
- Knocking fences out of square and walking away;
- Leaving blade tension not in the agreed position;
- Leaving tools attached to chucks (drill press, router table; milling machines)
- Leaving cabinets doors open, especially upper ones that hit peoples heads
- Not restocking lumber
- Not cleaning glue and paint brushes
Not closing tool chest/box drawers.
I would actually prefer if they left their 45 degree mitre locked in. I'm going to check it anyways, at least this way I know I'm not wasting 2 people's time.
All of those were covered under:
-put everything as you found it - section
-learn to use a broom / clean up tools and space after yourself you filthy animal - section
100% on the blade not at 90º Absolutely drives me nuts!!
yea those are all pretty serious offenses. Especially leaving things that were square out of square especially if its just by a tiny bit. There is a good chance i wont notice that and find out the hard way.
Dude -- you're so spot on with every comment, everyone should listen intently. Your commitment to cover such necessities is admirable and deserves respect. For those of us in pursuit of woodworking perfection, your messages is a must to preserve our digits, so we may continue to improve and deliver what our creativity demands of us.
After 45 years in a professional shop, I think you pretty much nailed it. there are 2 things I would add. First, making conversation with anyone who is using a power tool. Let them finish and don't distract them. Second, If you cannot control the cut, don't make the cut. I don't care that you followed the "safety procedures". If you can't control the captured piece you don't make the cut.
As a retired foot surgeon I appreciate and can testify to the importance of protection and support for feet. Never encountered a foot injury from a table saw but many others from improper foot gear. Also true I always had music playing in the OR.
All your points are valid. My father taught me that if you use a tool, you clean it and immediately put it back from where you got it.
I've tried to adopt this policy, but I back slide frequently. For me I found the next best step was to dedicate that time after after breakfast on Sunday to put the entire shop area back into shape for my hobby work the next week. It's better do put everything away when you use it, but this is an almost as good solution.
At some point you're not going to want to get it in and out of the drawer 27 times a day so you leave it on the bench while you have a break. And it goes from there...
@@Croz89 That and the dozen other tools you need for the job
I remember working on a cylindrical grinder during my apprenticeship, one day and I heard a scream from the guy working on a centre lathe behind me. I turned around and saw his overall had become wrapped around the lathe leadscrew and he was being pulled into the chuck. Almost before I could move across the gangway the turner let out an almighty scream and forced himself away from the rotating chuck, I was absolutely amazed to see his overall split down the back seam and he just stepped backwards out of it. The incident could so easily have ended in a serious injury and now at 78 years old I remember it as well as the day it happened.
Holy unprintable cats!
I was supporting the end of a long piece of 2x1 inch RHS that a colleague was drilling a 1 1/2” hole through, the drill swarf started to get too long for my comfort and just as I said break the swarf it caught his sleeve and started to wind his arm in, I had to decide whether to drop the end and risk shattering the drill and possibly causing more injuries so that I could reach the E stop or to shuffle along and reach it (it’s amazing how fast the brain evaluates possibilities in an emergency!) fortunately his overall sleeve started ripping along the seam and tore off at the shoulder, he escaped with a minor graze on the inside of arm, bloody lucky.
I feel sure that had he been wearing new overalls that coincidentally were issued the next week his injuries would have been far more severe than the rotten 2 year old overalls he was wearing.
The main lessons I learned that day were
1 never let the swarf get too long,
2 use a stand to support long work pieces
In highschool shop class one of the guys was using the jointer when his loose T shirt got caught and it started to pull him in. He was lucky that someone was standing near one of the whole-shop kill switches and looking in the right direction. He needed a new shirt but only had a couple scratches on his stomach. This was in the 90s and I would guess the machine was from the 60s. I dont remember what safety features the machine had but I doubt whatever there was had been bypassed
Your shop, your rules!! Well done.
Great video, safety cannot be discussed or implemented enough. A clean shop is vital for safety too. I have literally walked out of those shops with junk, sawdust and tools lying around everywhere. Those shops are an accident waiting to happen. As usual you are on point as safety is number one.
As the only person working on my house remodel years ago, I made a personal rule for myself. I would work all day, clean up for dinner and then try going back to the shop to finish up a job or push into the next part of the remodel. Bad idea. That is when I would hit a water pipe with the sawzall or snip a live wire with the diagonal pliers. My brain just could not get back the focus in the evening after a meal. So my rule? No working in the shop after dinner.
This is really important because one may not feel tired but the brain is. I get quite stupid in the evening and start doing careless, clumsy, dumb stuff. Good one to remind us of.
How many beers with dinner?
@@tsl7881 all of them!
After age 40 I don’t use power tools after 7 pm
@@Jared_Albert Ah, my personal union cuts me off at 5pm. Good to know our limits, right?
We had someone show up with flip flops on. We gave him an angle grinder and metal to cut. He never wore those to our site again.
48 years as a heavy equipment mechanic.
You nailed it.
I have seen a deglove, it is a quick way to empty your stomach, I still get queasy thinking about it.
I have also seen too many finger amputations, worst one was my best man. One guy dug through the saw junk to find the finger to send to the hospital with him and I was down on my hands and knees wiping the blood up. A real shit day.
Smoking, you come in my shop with any kind of a smoke you might just get a fire extinguisher in the face!
Totally agree smoking should be on the list to.
@@cobtheconquerorIn the last several decades, smoking indoors has thankfully become as acceptable as defacating in the corner of a room. No need to mention the obvious
I lost my dad to lung cancer. When I see a married man smoking, I’ll mention that his wife must really love him. They’ll ask why, and I’ll say, “because, during the last two years of your life, you’ll be too sick to wipe your own ass, and she’ll have to do it for you. Just like my mom had to do for my dad”.
@@erik_dk842 So what you're saying is considering the state of the world, you're expecting smoking indoors to make a comeback? :D
@@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse The homeless and the smokers can keep each other company outside. Both parties leave their residues on the sidewalk for others to take care of
Here's a challenge. I moved into a retirement community with a shared workshop. The first thing I noticed was the disorganization. Imagine being a woman trying to tell guys in their 80's that the shop is a mess! I've had to work hard to get their respect by showing them photos of my projects and gently (very gently) teaching them some techniques! Everyone here has had their own shops and now must learn to share; at varying rates of compliance. Everyone here thinks they know about best about safety. Luckily no one has been injured. I've convinced folks (sort of) about shop organization and having safety rules; am slowly poking at it; that is to say, I get it organized and they don't screw it up--much. These rules are wonderful and match up pretty well what I'm trying to implement in our shop.
I could never deal with a community shop. I would be setting up accidents 😂😂😂
Just kidding of course
Organisation in any shop, especially in a shared one, is key to safe and enjoyable work. Making sure that tools are easy to find… and easy to return when the work is done. Whenever I get a new tool, even if it’s just a screwdriver, first thing I do is find and mark out a place to keep it.
A place for every tool, and every tool in its place.
Being a little OCD, I don't think I could handle that! Having my husband mess in my shop is hard enough to handle! HAHAHAHA
Well done Lady!
Not too far at all. One of the reasons I really like your channel is because of the emphasis you put on safety and on providing safety-specific content.
A number of years ago I built a chuck box for my son's Boy Scout troop in my far-more-sparsely equipped shop. My good camping friend assisted and he wanted to be drinking beer while we were running the table saw, router, and hand-held power tools. I vetoed that immediately and forcefully; beers would be opened once our work was finished and all tools were powered down for the night. He recognized not to question that decision and we're still very good friends, with all our fingers still intact.
But if I made an issue out of cleaning up I'd be banned from my own garage. That's an OFI for me.
I'm in a very hot and humid part of the country in an open garage. I bought a pair of mesh, rubber soled shoes with composite safety toes specifically for shop use. I've never dropped anything on a foot but I still consider it some of the best money I've spent.
I was remodeling my kitchen and my bro-in-law wanted to have a beer while we worked. I set the same rule for drinks - after clean up is done. He left and I never had a problem working with him again.
You will drop something, and then you will be VERY glad you have them. Safety shoes are key. I catch a lot of grief from family because I wear steel toes even inside the house after work. Yet sure as heck, the other morning getting dressed before I put them on I dropped something on my toe and now the nail bed on my big toe is bruised and bloody. I started wearing them all of the time because one morning 20+ years ago as I was getting ready for work early one morning, I was walking from my back porch into the living room through a sliding door doorway, and dropped something VERY heavy on my foot. I had to carefully extract my foot from the door track, which cut the bottom of my toes down to the bone. After driving myself to the hospital, the ER doc kept trying to say that there was no way that this was a home injury..... Screw that. Now I wear shoes inside the house and vacuum twice as often. It's worth it. That, and when my daughters were little they liked to stand on my toes and pretend to dance as I moved and swung them around. It is one of my favorite memories of their childhood, as it is theirs. My grandchildren will have the same memories, as that safety equipment will mean that I still have feet for which they can stand upon.
Nitrile gloves...last week I had to unclog my rental's sewer using a power sewer augur. Nitrile gloves WILL wrap up without tearing! Had I not had darn good reflexes I'm convinced it would have destroyed a finger joint and possibly broken my wrist. Learned a valuable lesson-
As a construction worker supervisor for over 30 years, every time I has a new employee, I would have them go through my work trucks and become familiar with where all the tools went. In which door on the tool truck, tray or rack. If I found any of my tools in the wrong place on my trucks and I know who the careless one was, he got the job of taking all of the tools out, clean out the truck, drawers shelves and tools, and put them in the proper place. That usually broke the habit of placing the tools in the wrong place. Many don't know just how much time can be lost on a job in one year looking for tools. Today, I do it in my own shop and get really pissed when I can't find a tool.
I agree. Half the time it takes on every project I do is spent looking for a tape measure 😂
If sent some one to my service truck I could tell them it in the second door drivers side third shelf in the back on your right etc. If I went to look for something and it wasn’t there it was missing or miss placed. I had one guy wilth the terrible habit of taking tools out looking for another and stacking them on the shoulder or stuck inside ladders on shoulder of truck and leaving them there. To many times we lost tools or bounced down the interstate while I’m worrying about someone’s windshield. Huge frustration followed by ass chewing repeatedly. While I was not perfect especially after a late night on the job all are tired and agree straitening will happen next morning. Some times it didn’t till I just couldn’t stand it any longer. Nothing is better than an organized tool area and non trip hazard work area. Area is a whole other story 😡🤣
I agree with all you said, especially putting tools back where they belong.
Our first shop was a single car garage with almost every tool we currently have in our fully furnished 20x24 shop. Everything in the garage shop had it's place in order for everything to fit in there, so it HAD to go back where it belonged.
Was the nurse in the ER when the patient arrived by ambulance. He decided to have a few beers while he was cutting down a couple of trees. Yep, the chainsaw decided to take off his left arm just above his elbow. He was very fortunate to have a buddy there who applied a tourniquet and drove him over a half hour to meet the ambulance. Which took another half hour to get to the ER.
I worked over 30 years in an ER in a logging community and didn't see any chainsaw injuries as bad as you described. Not sure why. Did see lots of other severe injuries and quite a few fatalities though.
@@de362 probably because they don’t drink when they used their saw
I'm an ancient (really old) novice when it comes to woodworking, and I work pretty much alone. I depend on the good advice I get from your videos...I make some of the mistakes you point out but now that I know better....
When I started work with my dad I was given a broom and told, “When you know how to use that tool, you’ll be shown how to use other tools.” To this day, I clear up after every operation, even if it’s just sweeping the dust into a convenient pile in a corner to be picked up later.
Speaking of working with dads, how’s Moustache Mike? I keep expecting him to pop up and give us a cameo on one of your vids.
I love it. "When you have learned to use this tool, you can graduate to some others." Good one.
All your points are spot on. I don't even like drinks on any of the table tools whether they are nichol plated or not.
One point that i would add is take regular breaks amd recognize when you are tired and sore
. Just this weekend i was doing a job replacing some of that horrid plastic eavetrough on a house. Its up and down a ladder all day long.. i was exhausted but wanted to get it done... realized after that i was an accident waiting to happen. My mind was numb and muscles ached from just being on my feet.. hats when accidents happen.
should have taken a break and had a coffee or something and do a reset.
When i was an apprentice, i was taught to always wear work clothes when in the shop. Never wear any clothing item that you care about. That was sound advice! The reason is, that nothing should take any part of your focus or attention from the task at hand - which it will do if your worry is to not ruin your nice shirt. For the same reason, i am not a fan of the fancy and expensive workbenches i see some youtubers have. A workbench is a shop tool, and sometimes it will take a gouge, but rather that than your hand!
Every time I use a workshop, I use my pride to leave it as good or better than I found it when I arrived, your shop is my kind of heaven.
Two things to add. Don't put a plastic bag over a coworker's head so he can't breathe as a joke and don't retaliate by tightening a zip tie around the first guy's neck. I was told this story by a chemical company rep I talked to at a conference. Fortunately there was someone close with side cutters for the second guy. Both were fired immediately.
this is some grade school idiocy holy
I would go further and say no practical jokes of any kind. In my experience table saws have a very limited sense of humour and therefore so do I. Surprising someone into a sudden movement or finding that a tool or machine does not operate the way they expect is a recipe fir disaster. Pranks and power tools go together the same was as the words "nitro" and "glycerine".
Was told a story one time while working at a truss plant of a guy who goosed a friend of his with an air hose which gave him an embolism and killed him.
@@easycrider7453 i would be too ashamed to have a funeral if i die like that
Chemists are... different. Sometimes I miss it, a little bit.
Your safety advice is always appreciated. My first lessons were as a child in the fifties at home and at my father's building sites. The concepts haven’t changed, nor have most of the specifics, and yet many still haven’t learned some seventy years on. Thanks to you and others like you, some will.
All of this is valid, Nubs. One thing I noticed once I got a pair of really good noise-cancelling over-ear headphones (yep, with bluetooth for the tunes too) - I can't even hear my table saw running. So it's a safety trade off, maybe? I'm not suggesting NOT using hearing pro, but I've needed to build in an extra step of visual inspection and re-mashing the red 'stop' button. I'll add a half-joking suggestion to your list of Verboten Acts:
- Failure to keep every little piece of offcut no matter how odd, because it may be needed 'later'
I love your rules. I established a multitude of similar safety habits in my shop over the last 30 years, even though I'm the only one there. I've enjoyed keeping all 10 fingers along with functional eyes, ears, and lungs.
I hadn’t thought about gloves. I started using shop gloves a few years ago, and at first didn’t like them because it was hard to hold screws etc but later got to love them for the lack of scrapes and such. I hadn’t considered their danger with saws though, and I bet the whole protection gained by my sawstop is likely lowered with gloves. Thanks for the tip!
Your sawstop does nothing if you are wearing latex or nitrite gloves. Well it will work perfectly once the blade has removed the glove, some skin, muscle bones and generally made one heck of a mess
Many tools don't have enough torque to do anything like deglove your hand. I think snug fitting work gloves are OK for cordless drills and angle grinders and circular saws. Maybe even the tablesaw. It is the lathes and drill presses where you want to think twice about that (especially if you are running at low speed on the drill-press or lathe).
First time that I ever see someone with the right attitude regarding the responsibility you have to take in your shop. I agree 100% with you Sr.
Agree 100 percent. Also, I took the blade guard/off my cheap bench saw so I can accomodate building a larger table around it. But I'm going to figure out a way of making it work with the retrofit because I don't know how much luck I have left. Sometimes we don't get a second chance on being safe.
Along with long sleeves and jewelry, if you have long hair, it’s pony tail time, or even a hair net. In high school metal shop, I witnessed a friend get his hair tangled in the spindle of a drill press. In milliseconds, his head was jerked into the spindle, and a nickel-sized chunk of his scalp was yanked out! Talk about a bloody mess! Also, in my first year at SLB, I was a sheet metal fabricator. My best friend was working along side me as we drilled out hundreds of holes for pop rivets on a truck cabin. Suddenly Mario recoiled from the truck and turned to me. A 1/8” drill bit had shattered and impaled his safety glasses like a tiny spear. No injury, but a learned lesson for sure. Our boss framed that glasses and hung them in his office. Lastly, as an 18 year old kid, I saw something that I remember vividly to this day. One of the job expediters, Ernie, walked past my work area to the office. As he was entering the office, he fell to the floor with a sudden death heart attack. Nobody knew CPR. Ernie died before my eyes. Please get CPR and First Aid Training.
Absolutely, also learn where the Defibrillator is stored and know how to use it, it can make all the difference.
The flip side is my dad had one of his Normandy veteran friends drop dead in front of him, CPR was instigated immediately, it turns out he had a massive aortic aneurysm and nothing would have saved him. Nobody regretted trying CPR though.
Now retired ..... in my shop there was no drinking during lunch breaks (very common to have a beer or two for lunch here in the UK). A drink at lunch time got you an afternoon of unpaid holiday!!
Great vid content ...... everybody please pay attention.
I have been lecturing about management, OSHA safety and writing employee rules for over 50 years and I can guarantee you nothing you said surprised me and I totally agree with you. Music should be background noise not loud enough to inhibit communication. You may, with some employees, have to control loose hair as well. Long hair on men or women can be a very big safety issue.
But loose hair on non-binaries is ok? 😂
@@pinkerbot What imaginary creatures do has no bearing on workshop safety.
@@EvenTheDogAgrees 😁 my point was actually that gender has nothing to do with it - hence no need to say men or women. Sorry if my irony wasnt obvious.
@@pinkerbot Lol, ic. Nope, didn't pick up on that. 😂
I worked with a guy who was almost completely bald - in his early twenties - because his long hair had gotten caught in a drill press when he was seventeen.
I wouldnt try to argue the point with you in general much less in YOUR shop. You saved my life with your video about the chainsaw disc, nuff said. You may remember me telling you about that. You keep right on with what you do, especially safety.
Two songs you don’t want your surgeon to listen to , “the first cut is the deepest” and “another one bites the dust”.
😳🤣🤣🤣
Planing in the back of ur ambulance toooo😂
What surgeon doesn't want to hear the patient singing...I'm all shot up, hey hey
"Another One Bites the Dust" is the perfect tempo for CPR. Happy with anything that helps the medical professional do their job!
I added ceiling speakers to my shop...I work alone of course. It find it to aid in the ARTISTRY of our Craft and help remove distraction around in order to FOCUS on the task at HAND so to speak. During a production phase of cutting of course I just use headphones, but during assembly, staining and non mechanical type equipment..the CLUB is open. classic Rock, Blues, Jazz, Dub Step, Sounds of Spain...its all good. Artist Sound for Artist work. Love your show, and thanks for the reminder of important things to longevity, Organization, cleanliness, and SAFTEY of what a shop MUST ALWAYS BE.
All good advice. I worked in a wood factory after high school. Looking around the break room one day I noticed about half the workers were missing fingers. There was also a one-armed fork lift driver. He was very good. There was seasoned birch logs coming in on one end of the build8ng. They got ripped down to 4" wide boards that were glued up and pressed in an induction press to make 3' X 4' boards. Everything the factory made was made from those boards. There were no guards or safety devices on any machine. I still have all my fingers and arms. The factory is long gone. It had a sawdust furnace for the kilns. One day the furnace blew up.
I agree with all of those rules as they are the same in my shop. I do make one very slight exception. If I am turning something with resin. A tight fitting glove on the one hand just to prevent some of those glass like shards from sticking into my hand. Once it’s roughed in the glove comes off.
I would never wear flip flops or sandles in the workshop, but I did break a toe when I dropped a cutting board onto regular shoes. Now I wear steel toe Keen work shoes. They are very comfortable and my toes feel safe.
The amount of people that I hear about not wearing safety toe (steel or compensate) because they are "uncomfortable" or will "cut your toes off!" is wild. Even in professional shops that I have applied to to try and get a joiner apprenticeship (which is going by the wayside to go into electrical). If I ran a shop and I didn't see the green CSA triangle you'd be out until you get a pair or you'd be looking for a new shop.
I have dropped to many things on my feet and bashed my toes into to many corners. Breaking toes and being in a shop sucks.
I always, always put my tools back in their place. My dad was a joiner and he taught me to clean up properly at the end of the day but I also clean as I go along because it's safer. I'm not slipping on sawdust or tripping over offcuts. In the past when I was a bit lazy and didn't clean I found that somehow I made more mistakes or that the job didn't turn out as well as it should have. A simple video but excellent too. From the UK.
I would add: Disconnect power tools from the power source when they are not in use, and ALWAYS disconnect any power tool when making any adjustments to the tool or reaching into the tool for any reason (changing or adjusting bits/blades/etc.).
So, this comment reminded me of something I read in an owners manual (not MY owners manual of course...just one I found discarded at some random friend's house...ManCard protected). You know those pesky 'safety' warnings they write (probably because of somebody's mistake)...well one I read for a saw read something like, "STOP SAW BEFORE REMOVING BLADE!" Really?? What genius needs to be told that? 🤔 (there must be a juicy story there for that one.)
that is why I don't have battery powered circular saws - its easier to pull out the cord than to remove the battery to make it safe.
I used to work in a shop where anything goes and the boss would bring beer at 5:00 on Friday even though we still had hours of work left to do. It didn't seem like a big deal but it was and thankfully I realized that before something bad happened. I love the level of safety you promote.
But I will wear my flip flops pretty much wherever I want outside of the shop. I get pedicures (and compliments) to keep things looking nice, and I can easily walk 10km in them without any physical issues, even silently.
Love the safety tips. I always read the monthly safety brochures that my father brought home from work. Without realizing it, I took all of that information with me when I go to the field in my construction related job. I often get heckled for doing things a different way than the quick "normal" way, but I know that there is less chance of me getting injured my way than their way. No job-related injuries in my 50 years on the job for me, but I have had the unfortunate task of taking a coworker to the ER a couple of times.
Grab assing is a good way to lose parts unexpectedly. There's a TikTok thing going on where people try and startle a co-worker or family. Doesn't have a place in the shop.
That sort of thing has no place in any environment where tools are being used. Something As simple as chopping veggies can cost you a fingertip if you are startled.
Throw power into the mix and it's fingers through a bandsaw or tablesaw. Fingers trapped in a motorcycle drive chain or serpentine belt on a car. or the worst I have seen. Fingers in a 25 ton powerhammer....
In my 35 years as an anesthesiologist I have seen multiple workshop injuries, including a professional cabinet maker loosing multiple fingers. I applaud your shop discipline. Same as in the OR.
Slight variant on putting things back--if you know where you got it do so! If not, leave it on the bench so I can put it back rather than searching for wherever you happened to put it.
That's what I tell my wife, who rarely goes in my shop. She can borrow anything I have, but just leave it on the bench for me to put away. That way I can check it for any damage, wipe it down, then put it in its proper place. I made up a small tool bag for her, a tape measure, several types of pliers, screwdrivers, torpedo level, etc. This has eleminated 99% of her trips to my shop.
I saw a mate of mine at School get dragged into and under a Lathe chuck. Loose Woolen Jumper Got away luckily with severe bruising because the single phase motor stalled out and we got to the E stop (40+ years ago and still fitted!). Do that with a three phase motor or larger bit of gear would really have ended badly.
You nailed everything you mentioned. My biggest peeve is a sloppy, messy shop. Keep it clean, put tools away where they belong when done with them, clean up any mess that is made, and everything else along those lines.
Personal responsibility, what a concept :)
I was cutting up an area rug with a hooked blade. I slipped and cut through my tennis shoes and across my big toe. Four stiches later I learned never to work in my garage "shop" without my steel toe shoes on. Same shoes I use for mowing the lawn by the way.
I only have myself in the shop. But here is when I kick myself out to take a breather:
1. Working too fast; rushing around and rushing cuts; not being careful with the tools.
2. After I make a really dumb mistake and get mad at myself. This is when I take a 5-10 minute break before I resume working with really sharp tools.
3. Working tired. I don’t go in my shop when I am tired and if I break this rule, I still don’t turn on power tools that could really hurt me or use sharp hand tools that are going to hurt me or the wood such as a chisel.
P.s. my whole shop could be nickel plated but if I spilled a drink on a tool, I would get quite upset and would probably need a 15 minute timeout… once I cleaned up the liquid.
These are important for me. Those situations are when I make mistakes or have accidents. Wouldn't want it to be the type I can't take back.
sometimes i go in to calm down because it is peaceful, but no power tools on those visits and sometimes no tools at all
I can add: like what we are used to in construction sites - a safety training at the beginning of work and a test exam to validate that any one working on the construction site knows and understands basic safety rules and guidelines is a must before proceeding to work - this is needed even when using hand tools
Great subject, I would add two things. No horsing around, the shop is no place for physical play. No smoking either.
you would think those would be so obvious that they don't require mentioning, but if he had to call out someone on wearing flip flops, then I guess everything needs to be pointed out.
Agree with all your points. In my basement shop, I have all my stationary tools (lathe, table saw, band saw, jointer) wired to 220 and connected to power with an extension cord that is moved from from tool to tool as needed. No tool can be turned on without the extension cord. When I am not in the shop, the extension cord is coiled and put away. Prevents inadvertent powered of any tool.
Clever!
They all sound reasonable. I smashed my big toe wearing flip-flops...ironically I always wore steel toes except for this one day I was just cleaning up a little!
I dropped a chisel while barefoot. It landed point down. I'm lucky I didn't lose a toe. It caught the side of my toe and just left a big gash that needed a couple of stitches.
Can use table saw guard with micro jig. You gotta choose what safety you want. Control of pieces or blade guard snd kick back
Thank you Stumpy!
Humble request: please do a video on when to use gloves and when not to, and what types of gloves to use for different applications.
Quick rule of thumb, if it spins no gloves.
@@Revlemmon thank you!
When it comes to protecting our hands, this rule of thumb is very helpful
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I understand. We have a makerspace with over 300 people and a 3000sqft wood shop. Finding a tool can sometimes be a frustrating experience. And don't get me started on drill bits. Just because a drill index has 115 drills, it doesn't mean there are extras.
I'm retired now, however as a general contractor, I always banded radios on the worksite. When you have a loud radio playing, so that you can hear it across the job site, you also cannot hear a coworker who has injured himself and cannot yell. From personnel experience.
That's how I learned from old school framers. And I've continued that practice to this day. I'm there to work, not be entertrained by Led Zeppelin.
Also! If you're listening to the radio, you're not concentrating on the job. If you're concentrating on the job, you ain't listening to the radio.
@@farrier2708 That's actually not the case. People don't concentrate on the music, having music on actually helps most people to concentrate.
@@perfectlyinsane1376 That's not true, even though people may perceive it that way.
Music is vibration which creates an emotional response by inducing rhythmic patters in the nervous system of the listener.
If those rhythms are out of sinc' with the machine you are working with, then beware. It's better to listen to what the machine is telling you.
If you want to understand the possible effects of sonic vibration, research "Sound Seven" or the reasons for drivers crossing the central reservation, in the early days of UK motorways. One frequency induces excitement, the other euphoria and both are strong components of modern music.
@@farrier2708 Different people process differently. What saved my grades during my undergrad was listening to music. For a lot of people, if you find a task too familiar your mind can drift. Music can act like chewing a gum while driving, allowing you to be more alert. But I don't advise it for everyone as I know people who genuinely do get distracted.
In a Hodinkee article, Dan Spitz (guitarist for metal band Anthrax, who is now one of the finest watchmakers in the world), mentioned that he noticed a Swiss master watchmaker working on a very complicated timepiece and turns out he was blasting Slayer in his headphones. And that most of the masters there are blasting something while they're working. I guess I should try headphones again myself...
Working tired is a pet peeve of mine. If I were running a commercial shop, or allowed people use my hobby shop, they would get tossed out working tired.
Hear here! I can text my boss at 10pm any weeknight if I'm at a show so long as it's an amazing show. He won't expect me in before 10am. That's the kind of team I'm on. Longest job I've ever held. After almost 10 years, I'm one of the top guys there. I send that to #dev-team at least once a quarter. I mean, it costs me the time spent going to a great show on a school night plus the time I spent sleeping in, but I get so much more out of my team than I ever expected. If a critical bug report comes in on a Saturday night at 2am, at a show or not, it's hotfixed by 2:20. I build and repair guitars in my heated attached garage, alone. If something goes wrong, nobody is going to be able to hear me screaming for help. Garages are kind of built that way. "Go make your noise over there. By yourself". I love this channel. I share it with my son. While I want him to build whatever nonsense he want's build, I'm 52 and after a decade in the 90's working technical theatre for bands, I know what tinnitus and living with hearing loss is like. I still have 10 fingers, 10 toes, two legs and (thanks for the advice grandpa) two arms. DIY is not an excuse to ignore your safety. Thanks to this channel for everything they've ever taught me. I would super thanks if I could.
So many studies about how sleep deprivation equates to driving drunk(learned this while doing heavy haul in the military where they purposely deprive you of sleep)
Working sick as well.
@@cidercreekranch I had to miss a once in a lifetime concert happening on my birthday that a loved one splurged in for over priced tickets because an asshole coworker came to work knowingly sick with COVID, and got me sick as well. I hate those types of people
Or drunk/high
As a former machinist, I can fully support the no gloves and no loose clothing recommendations. I saw a glove catch in a mill and pull a finger apart (let's not talk about the tendons), and a loose apron pull my uncle into a CNC mill--thankfully he was able to wrestle himself out of his shirt to escape. Both men had over thirty years of experience; never get complacent.
No horseplay - EVER!
Absolutely! Dicking around in a workshop full of power tools, or worse: dicking around _with_ the power tools, is a recipe for disaster!
My dad used to work at the Ford factory, back when we still had one. One of his stories: the jackasses dicking around with the compressed air gun, sticking it into people's butts and pulling the trigger, because "ha-ha funny". Until one guy "ha-ha funnied" his way to the hospital with a ruptured intestine.
To put it in the words of South Park shop teacher, Mr. Adler, "Sccchtop sccchrewing around!!!!"
I remember years ago on the first day of industrial arts class (metal & wood shop) in jr. high school the teacher saying "In the battle of wood and metal against flesh and bone wood and metal win every time!"
Misread that initially. I thought you said No foreplay - ever! I wondered what sort of shop you had 😅😂
@@gillie-monger3394 steel mill from The Simpsons. 🤣
One thing I would seriously worry about when I was part of a stained glass course was whenever someone would be yawning and tired while working with the vertical saw and the grinding wheels. Being tired, or even the slightest bit drowsy is not conducive to a safe working environment.
The music thing is interesting. I have ADHD (like actually so, full with the medical diagnosis and treatment plan) and for whatever reason when I'm doing things with my hands, having that auditory stimuli just helps me not get bored and therefore not get distracted. It's not like I'm even paying attention to the music to any strong degree. It's more that the moment I notice I'm paying attention to the music, I shift my focus back to the work, whereas without the music that's when the mind starts wandering uncontrollably for me.
That's interesting, the same thing may work somewhat in reverse, with physical stimuli making auditory attention easier.
I was recently having a conversation with someone who makes little wooden "bears" (they are abstract in form but you can see what they are) which are intended as comfort pieces to hold in your hand (they fit your grip really well and are oddly reassuring as a result).
Anyway, it seems somebody bought one for their young son who has ADHD, and he started taking it into school.
Giving a child with attention issues something to fiddle with during lessons might seem like a recipe for disaster, but it's apparently turned out to have completely the opposite effect, his performance at school has shot up.
@@numberkruncherr Oh yeah it totally works in reverse as well. The way I describe the mechanism at play is that when both senses are being stimulated, it gives me more control over which one I "focus" on. I definitely listen better to auditory things when I'm fidgeting with something. But more importantly, I can control which one is the dominant sense I'm focusing on conciously.
My experience *generally* is that when there's a void in one of my senses that's not being engaged, that's when the "wandering" in my thoughts starts being very difficult to control. If I have some degree of stimuli in most of the senses, it makes it much easier to choose which one I'm actually paying attention to.
I remember in class rooms that were completely silent during tests being very distracted by things like mechanical clocks or footsteps out in the hall, because they're so distinctive that they pull your attention. Something like music is much better because it is continuous and can just very easily start being treated as (pleasant) background noise.
All of this is just my experience with it though, so your mileage may vary!
Excellent point about wearing rings, I also wear a Titanium ring in the workshop and will not be doing so after this.
Grumpy nubs
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Was going to say “you can just retitle this video GET OFF MY LAWN.” 😂
Must have switched to a new medication... just a pure rant fest LOL.
Obviously none of you, own or work in a field, as this, but quick to put shite on them, grow up children.. grrr
I don't wear flip-flops but I do wear form fitting Speedos. I wonder if the Stumpsters would approve.
Love this content! My shop is also carpeted and the company is named Barefoot Woodworking, but I do wear shoes, usually! Thanks for another great video.
I make toys on a small scale and often do small jobs for neighbors probono. I had a customer order a couple hundred toys of one type and was happily setting up my TS for a cut with a very low tolerance. I had just finished setting up and was ready to make the cuts when a neighbor came into the shop and wanted to know if I would rip a 2 by for her, told her yes just wait until I make these cuts and then no problem. She looked at my saw loosened the fence and reset it to where she wanted the board cut. I smiled and ripped the board and she grabbed her boards and asked "do I owe you anything" and got a shocked look when I pointed to a sign about costs and said yeah 2 hours labor for saw set up and making the cut total $150, she ran out of the shop and has never come back.
i just want to know where she bought a 2x4 straight enough to rip on a table saw
I cannot believe you let her touch never alter your tablesaw!!! That’s deffo a no no.
@@Sam-th4jlI've ripped plenty.
They never turn out right, but....
You're too nice. When she touched the saw I would have thrown her board in the street and told her never to come back, and escorted her out with a high deciBel lecture on the matter. But I'm one of the Women With Power Tools.
WOW, it sounds like i wrote this video!!!! THANK YOU. more people need to be taught the basic of safety and shop etiquette
I remember when you had a run in with one f those chainsaw wheels. You were lucky. Your injuries could have been much worse.
When I was a kid, in the 60s and 70s, my Dad worked for IBM performing maintenance and repair on IBM equipment in customer's office areas. These were the days of mechanical printers and programs on punch cards. He had to wear the standard IBM "uniform", suit, white shirt, and tie. He always wore a short sleeve shirt and clip on tie to prevent getting sucked into a running piece of equipment. Same idea, different environment.
I was cutting bowl blanks on my bandsaw from fresh logs. I would cut them and then put sealent on one end. I wasn't thinking and set all of them on my tablesaw (because I had so many my workbench was full) to dry; planning on turning them over and sealing the other ends in a few hours. Life happened, and I didn't get back to it for almost a week. When I lifted the blanks up, my entire tablesaw top was orange with rust. I didn't even think about the moisture in the blanks seeping out onto the tablesaw. I never have been able to get all of the ptting and rust out.
Big safety concern in our shop (cabinetry and custom tables) was to NEVER approach someone while they were operating a machine. Don't tap me on the shoulder when I'm using the tablesaw or any other finger-removing equipment.
Before I retired I made / repaired furniture for static caravans . The material was mainly laminated chipboard so the table saw was set up with a scoring blade and a fine tooth blade. Then some melt would come in and cut 4x2 ‘s and not change the blade , argh
I'm a military vet and when I got into the service one of the first things we were told was to remove any rings we had when we were working. One of our staff even told us about how someone they knew had their wedding band catch on the tailgate while they were jumping out of a truck. While they moved forward out of the truck, their finger didn't. It just isn't worth it.
rings are so under-rated... worked retail back in the day... girl climbs shelving to get a t-shirt from a higher spot and not have to grab a ladder (mistake no.1)... jumps off the rack (only 20 inches or so high)... ring gets stuck between the metal bracket and the shelf (mistake no.2)... nearly ripped all the skin/muscle along her finger... all to save a few seconds while working minimum wage at 17. Don't wear rings at work period, and don't try to save a second by cutting corners. IT IS NOT WORTH IT!
speaking of trucks... jumping out of the back/ over the side of a truck feels cool... doing it repeatedly, full height (3-4 feet) onto concrete while wearing heavy steel toe boots... hope your kids don't want to play when you're a bit older, those knees ain't bending.
Yep, had a friends hubby catch his ring while fixing the chain switch on a ceiling fan...when he slipped on the stepstool, he fell but most of his finger and the ring stayed up there. Amazingly, his hand healed...but nobody at that party ever wore a ring without thinking hard.
i had a smile on my face when i watched this because when i was a young man (many years ago) i could find my tools ,whether they be mechanics or wood, wherever they happened to be when i was done with the task at hand. Many years later i learned that the only way i would know where my tools were would be to put them in the same place every time. I now have a very small shop and it is imperative that i return everything to its proper place and clean as often as every operation ( i went from a 20' x 30' wood shop to an 8 1/2' x 20' cargo trailer)
I am very bad about cleaning up before walking out at night but definitely will do it by the next day.
And yes, glasses and ear plugs are mandatory in my place as well as actual shoes if anyone is going to help me
These are all super reasonable. I had a friend who lost their finger in an accident involving a metal ring. I’ve never worn a ring in the shop since. Same with gloves and everything else you said… except I sometimes keep it messier than i should. That one is hard to break.
I agree with all except the music scenario. I believe working with power tools requires most of your senses, even hearing, to do the best possible job. I believe in music in the shop, even at very high levels, but it will never drown out the sound of your machine and what kind of audible feedback it is giving you. I will say that in a shop like yours that could very well have multiple machines running at one time and the incredible Db levels, headphones are probably the only way to go.
Safety should always be a priority in the shop. I just purchased the pro and am looking forward to using it
I would add one item to your list. No young children in a working shop. Too many buttons to push, and too many sharp tools to cut!
And stop working if the wife says to watch the kids while takes off for a while . . She got mad cuz I stopped working and watched the kids. She said lots of other guys watch the kids and work. She's gone!
A worker in a shop I'm familiar with tried using a massive flush cut bit designed for a shaper free hand in a router. It had a bearing at the top but not the bottom. He about lost his place in the opposable thumb club when the bottom of the bit dug in.
I was working on site at a utility and I was painting something that was a bit off the ground so I was on a ladder facing away from the ladder painting. Someone approached me and told me that I had to face the direction of the ladder then cited some OSHA regulation. I complied immediately and the funniest part was it seemed like he had worked himself up for an argument and actually acted/sounded deflated when I complied so easily. But it was because as you say "my shop, my rules" I kept doing it elsewhere but every time I returned to that site I followed the rules because that's what you do, especially when you are on the clock.
Lots of people hate confrontation so he may indeed have had to work himself up and prepare for an argument. He may have been very happy that you were happy to comply.
I'm quite capable on ladder stunt work in the real world and always hear "if osha comes by and sees that"
To which I reply "if osha comes by and has anything to say hes gonna need his benefits to fix his face when I break it with a hammer".
once u step from a ladder that isn't where it normally used to be (because u turned while up or whatever) u'll realize where that rule comes from.
I learned that from a small 3 step ladder the hard way. Took a month for the arm that coped most of the fall to feel normal again.
@joansparky4439 hasn't happened but, I've only been using them for 41 years.
I agree with everything with one thought which is around loud music. Awareness of your surroundings is important when others are working near you. If a hazard exists, someone with headphones and loud music playing may miss that hazard. This is a great awareness video.
Dear Stumpy, I commend you for having produced this video and I CONCUR 150%:well done !
The amount of things that will get you kicked out of the shop is directly proportional to amount of grayness in the shop owners beard.
Amen
And the number of fingers he has left.
I teach woodworking at a high school. In my shop it’s the equipment operators responsibility to make sure everyone else has ppe on before they use any loud equipment. Helps with personal safety responsibilities and helps them build good communication. Another unique shop rule is extended personal space. Teenagers are still learning social skills and my base rule is the standard personal space is just doubled. It’s not elbow room, it’s 2 arms length.
FYI! Feet are not nasty. Do you call your hands nasty? Feet are like hands, just in the other end of your body. But I agree, no sandals or flipflops in shop.
Feet belong in boots if you're a man who does man's work.
Do you walk on your hands all day? Didn't think so.
@@hi_wifi_guy Don´t get what you are going at, here.
1:40 Sandals in the workshop is a no-go since they don't protect the feet from having something heavy drop on them, but not all sandals have the drawbacks that you describe here. Sandals can have a sole that's just as supportive as that of a closed shoe, and they do come with some distinct advantages, too. Mainly, since sandals don't trap your feet in an enclosed space that, at least in the summer, is going to be moist from sweat (I don't care what the ad said, your socks will hold on to a good part of that sweat, creating a moist and warm environment), the environment isn't as suitable for bacteria and fungal growth, preventing your feet from smelling. (Even more important, if you have an open wound on your foot, like a badly ingrown toenail, that moist and warm environment can facilitate infection)
I agree with everything except music.
Don't wear hearing protection with music in it. You should be able to hear odd or bad noises that might show up while using a power tool.
My biggest diehard rule is to put everything away at the end of the day.
Spot on, agree with everything except listening to music on headphones, in an emergency they cannot hear alarms and you cannot get the persons attention easily. Your shop your rules
I agree but I'd balance it by saying a single earbud is fine. If you can't get their attention when they have only a single earbud on then you can't get their attention at all.
I always instruct to leave my hand tools neatly on my workbench etc and I'll put them away myself. I don't mind at all. I get to inspect and make sure they go in the proper place. Just make sure they are CLEAN!
My shop is the third stall of my garage, and for a long time, it was kept pretty clean and clutter free. Then the wife started to keep more stuff in the garage, and it has flooded over to the shop. And having someone else in the shop, that doesn't put things back where they got them, and leaving all sorts of stuff lying around, should prompt a no wife in the shop rule. But let's see who can get away with that.
My wife does the gluing and sanding. And quite a bit of the router table stuff. :D
So, yeah...
After the costly divorce, she'll own the shop and the adjoining house
After spending two weekends building storage in my garage shop to try and make sense of my wife's clutter, I decided to reverse my pickup into the shop next weekend, and just de-clutter that shit permanently! Some of these clutter boxes have been floating around for more than 15 years!
"...or from ticking me off." LOLOLOL James, I love this video. You are such a blessing to our woodworking community! I agree with everything you said, too!