This is amazing John. I grew up in a very legalistic Arminian type church and just a few years ago found my way out and discovered reformed theology through the writing of Dr. RC Sproul, and a little later Dr. Steven Lawson, and then almost immediately found your podcast on Spotify and it has totally changed my life. For 30 years I tried to work my way into heaven and try so hard to be a perfect Christian under my own strength and failed so miserably I almost gave up and destined myself for hell. But when The spirit opened my eyes and I finally realized that it has nothing to do with what I do and everything to do with what Jesus did it changed everything. I have the assurance of heaven so rock solid now unlike anything else I’ve tried my entire life. Shortly after that I started studying Calvinism and the five points and they totally made sense to me like never before. I really don’t have a problem with the acronym and the words that were use with it because if you study the historical context of the words and the meaning at the time they totally make sense. The one point I can say that means the most to me and has totally changed me is the irresistible grace. I understand it to mean that when the Holy Spirit reveals the truth of the gospel to you it becomes irresistible to you and you want nothing more than to study it, live it and share it with other people. And what’s even more amazing is that my wife has said she notices a huge change in me and wants to know more about it as well. She was raised with the same theology I was and I want her to see the truth in the gospel and find it irresistible like I do.
While the legalistic church you grew up in sounds horrible, Calvinism is absolutely a worse answer. You like Irresistible Grace, spend some time on Unconditional Election. That’s not the God of the Bible.
@@TheRomans9Guy The Doctrines of GRACE is biblical, Will Worshipper! God elects and predestined his sheep, and gave his life for the sheep (John 10:11-15)....Jesus made it pretty clear in John 6:37 "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." and Jesus proceeds to say he loses NONE "that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." (John 6:39) You Will Worshippers hate the God that has revealed himself in the scriptures. A perfect SAVIOUR that actually saved his people from their sins. The false Christ you worship only makes salvation possible, but can't save no-one unless man cooperates and let's him. What a weak beggar and god you serve!
@@TheRomans9Guy , You’re teaching a false Gospel that takes the providence of God and gives it to men. The only thing we contribute to our Salvation is the sin that makes it necessary.
@@shawnglass108 no, it’s the actual Gospel. The good news that God has forgiven all mankind and all we need do is repent and believe. Gods providence is the all-forgiveness part, our part is the surrender part. Calvinism is the terrible false gospel.
@@TheRomans9Guy No, it's not the gospel. If Christ forgiven all mankind and laid his life down for every individual (without exception), then there is no sin to punish and Hell will empty! You are teaching universal atonement, which is a damnable heresy! The false god you believe in only makes salvation possible, but can't save anyone unless man cooperates and let's him. The Bible declares an actual finished work, where Jesus actually saves his people and he loses NONE of them, his sheep made up of believers. Are you going to continue to troll and spew your "everyone is chosen" nonsense, or are you going to REPENT of your false doctrine?
So you do a really good job examining the various proof texts from both viewpoints. I would like to see more videos like this that cover ALL of the proof texts from both viewpoints comprehensively please. I also like how you divide the video into sections because most people I know don't have the attention capacity for these longer ones as I do. Very grateful to have found all of this. Shabbat Shalom brother.
Are you suggesting that a person receives the Holy Spirit before they come to faith in Christ? And if they did already, why do they even need to hear the gospel?
@@sorithplays3634 do you have a Scripture reference for that? I don't mean to say it is not obvious the Scriptures are Spirit breathed as they say they are, but what is your understanding of the Scriptures that say believers need the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I understand even the ancient practice of the Orthodox Church since the time of the apostles recognizes there is a water baptism for remission of sins and they also recognize the sealing of the Holy Spirit on the newly converted right after baptism
Something I've heard, and it may be an unfair generalization, but "people don't like God being God". This applies with arguing for free will. We hate that God decides things for us ahead of time. We want control. I think our flesh hates sovereignty even over our "free" will.
I’ve been listening to the free will/sovereignty debate for some time. I’ve come to the conclusion that our view of the Gospel determines which side we come down on. POV.
At 16:07 you make the assertion that The Fall took away from us the capacity to believe in God. No scripture says that. You don’t cite a scripture for that. That’s a direct contradiction of Romans 1. In fact, not even Adam and Eve ceased believing in God as a result of the fall. Yet this idea that all of humanity now comes into the world without the capacity to believe in God is a necessary prerequisite for the entire Calvinistic system. I don’t know if you even realize you said it. It’s just so ingrained in the indoctrinated Calvinist that it comes out of you as if it’s scripture. It’s not.
I was demon possesed when God saved me,is that possible? My life changed totally,even my depression,that I had for years stopped when I started reading Bible and praying
In find it difficult to refute predestination and election as this is woven so much through the bible. The Israelites over and over are referred to as chosen. Pharaoh's heart was hardened. Did he have a choice? Could his will have changed the outcome? The bible says that God alone give us a new heart. Did Paul choose for himself to be converted? I would argue no one would choose Christ, it's not a easy. I'm surprised that people feel so strongly against Calvinism. I read the bible and then saw where the theology applied. I did not ascribe to the theology and then see what verses fit. I read the entire bible, then read it again with this in mind. I feel like the proof is there in scripture. I still haven't decided about Limited atonement so I'm interested in that video.
So we don’t have free choice? Why would God say whoever believes in Jesus will have everlasting life? Why wouldn’t he say whosoever I chose that believes in him will have everlasting life.
@@christynoordhoek2636 I’m watching it rn. I probably won’t ever become a Calvinist. It’s not a salvation issue, I believe and put all my trust in Jesus, that’s all that matters. I guess will can ask God in heaven and we will know for sure then.
@@liamoore409 I agree! Doctrine and theology are important but not all of it is salvific. I like these videos and discussions because it pushes me to think about the Bible and what I believe. I like to discuss if someone can debate and still walk away with opposing views recognizing that I’m still a sister In Christ! Good point!
@@liamoore409 The doctrines of grace is a salvation issue. You believe in a god that can't save anyone unless man let's him or cooperates, That god doesn't exist. The GOD of the Bible actually accomplished salvation for his people and loses NONE of ALL that were given to Jesus Christ by the father. Read John chapter 6, 10, 17...specifically John 6:28-29, John 6:37-44, John 6:64-65, John 10:24-29, John 17:2, John 17:9
I find Romans 2 contradicts total depravity I don't know whether to believe that we were dead before we sin I'm free grace free will theology that's my understanding call it easy believism
Iam a reformed christian..just want to know who are on the other side who embrace free will..which majority of evangelicals are. Is their salvation ilor faith genuine..or true saving faith.???..
Of course it is! Just because someone thinks they chose to follow God out of free will doesn’t mean they don’t truly believe the Gospel! I accepted Jesus when I believed in free will salvation. Now I think Calvinism is the most correct view. I can tell you I was surely saved before I understood this.
If I trust and believe the "5 points of Calvinism", and conclude that Phillipians 1:6 means that my Salvation is started and finished by God (His intervention)!!! Then, what am I and what am I NOT??
1:32:58 You're talking about Peter before he received the spirit of God at Pentecost bro. How could peter lose his salvation if he wasn't even saved in the first place when he denied the Lord 3 times? He wasn't saved until God's spirit sealed him at Pentecost.
@@nvateach1 nothing dear. Nothing can "make God" do anything. This is true because he's omnipotent and everything belongs to him anyways because he made everything and upholds everything by the word of his power and in him all things exist and have their being et cetera et cetera. Acts 17:24-25 (KJV): "God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things." I think you might already know that so I'm going to move on to your next question. God sealed Peter with his Holy Spirit because he had determined to do so before the foundations of the world according to Ephesians chapter one. There's lots of old testament passages that talk about this too. God will accomplish everything he has purposed to do and all of his good pleasure et cetera et cetera. And in the New Testament it says that, "known to God from eternity are all his works." acts 15:18 There is a difference that needs to be made between predestination and providence. But that's a huge topic that I will not attempt in this puny chat forum.
"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in." Does the phrase "them that are entering in" refer to reprobates that were passed over in eternity past, those of whom God (or at least Calvinism's caricature) is not interested in their eternal welfare? If so, why would the Lord say that they were "entering"? And does this verse mean that they would have entered into the kingdom were it not for the fact that, according to the Lord, the Pharisees "bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders"? Would the Calvinist contend that the heavy burdens of the Pharisees are the "means" by which God makes sure the non-elect are excluded, thus stopping them from continuing to enter into the kingdom?
I'm labeled calvinist constantly and they actually hate me because I believe in the absolute sovereignty of God. They label me and I don't care about calvin. Leave calvin OUT
Salvation isnt possible in your hands but its a free gift thats easy to access and it comes by hearing and hearing by the word of god i love you theocast guys but we strongly depart here i will still watch you guys your an inspiration for me but we depart on this keep preachong the good news but i suggest keeping your deeper thologies quiet unless you want to encourage backbiting
The point made when Jesus spoke to Nicodemus about needing to be born again is utterly lost on people these days. That lightbulb moment, like Jon said, was asking the question "Did anyone have ANYTHING to do with their first birth?" The answer of course is "No." So what makes us believe that we have anything to do with the second birth? Jesus was always VERY careful and particular with His wording because He was always teaching multiple layers of wisdom. Hence, this is why He used the analogy of birth, where there is no volition or choice involved by the one being created. Similarly, why else would man be described as "dead in trespasses and sins"? Ask those who espouse "free will" what does this actually mean and you will get all kinds of answers to try and get around that dead means DEAD. What do dead things DO? What is a dead thing capable of? Nothing but rotting. Likewise, when Ezekiel talks about God taking the heart of stone and giving a heart of flesh (again, God is the one doing it), think about what this means. Essentially this is God doing a heart transplant. What doctor or person performs their OWN heart surgery?
Amen! Jesus said it CLEARLY! NO MAN can come to Jesus except the father DRAWS him. This means men can do nothing except GOD that draws in his sheep (and he draws only his sheep). John 17:2 "As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him."
This is a silly argument. Yes, Jesus was saying you need to choose to be born again…baptism? And yes, us free-willers understand what it means to be dead in your transgressions. Being dead in your transgressions means if it were left up to you, your salvation and eternal life would already be decided, you’d not gain them. Your sins already warrant death. But the good news, it’s literally called “the Gospel”, is that Jesus died in your place and God forgave all your sins so that now, if you only surrender to God he will grant you eternal life. And he’s given everyone that ability. See? Easy to understand. No antimony/heresy/blasphemy needed!
@@TheRomans9Guy That's not what the Bible teaches Will Worshipper. John 1:12-13 "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
@@brianc81 so, you’re not doing a great job of reading comprehension. John 1:11-12 “he came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God…” So…the ones who were “his” were the unbelieving Jews, the ones who weren’t were the gentiles. If God just chose some, then John 1 would tell you the ones who were “his” were the unbelieving Jews. Then what, God lied and decided to pick others? If your stance is true, God just chooses some, then you’re making a wreck out of the Bible and God. Sheesh.
@@brianc81 and you’re also wrecking John 6. Sure, no man can come to Jesus except that the father draws him. We can’t force God to give us eternal life. But God draws everyone. Those who listen, repent and surrender, those are the ones God gives over to Jesus. This is simple stuff. Have you not heard this before??
I thank God that he protected me from the pitfalls of Calvinism, a true burden on the believer. Believers don't get ensnared by this bewitching philosophy of man
I think the answer is in what you said. God came to save sinners. Not All people but sinners who agree of their failure. I have a neighbor who thinks he is so good, never in the wrong and believes in a benevolent God that will save him yet he will never humble himself. Point out his errors and he gets angry, denies and won't see him for a month.
Part 2 of 2. I disagree with any view that Calvinism is just another branch of Christianity. Calvinism has a different god, a different christ, and is another gospel. I believe that the most dangerous aspect of Calvinism is in P of TULIP-Perseverance of the Saints, and the false gospel of Lordship Salvation that defines P. Calvinism's assertion that, "We are saved by faith alone, but not a faith that is alone" is a subtle way of introducing justification by works into biblical Christianity. According to P you must persevere in faith and works of the Law, you must submit to the Lordship of Christ, and you must be obedient and behave in certain ways otherwise you must not be one of the elect. This directly contradicts the many Scriptures that we are justified by faith in Jesus Christ apart from the works of the law. No where in the New Testament does it explicitly say that submitting to the Lordship of Christ is a necessary condition for one's justification. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Galatians 3:2-3 As you read the following Scriptures, please note, nowhere does it say that faith and believing unto salvation itself is a gift. The Scriptures say In Ephesians 2:8, the gift is "salvation" by grace through faith, not "faith" itself. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:2 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, Romans 4:5 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose. Galatians 2:21 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Romans 3:28 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” Galatians 3:11 And be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith- Philippians 3:9 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. Romans 10:4 Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. Galatians 2:16 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. Romans 3:20 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Romans 4:2-3 Do you see the problem? The moment you point to your obedience to God's Laws and your own efforts to prove your salvation, you are basing your salvation on "your performance" and not the "finished work of Jesus Christ", contradicting God's promise of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ apart from the works of the law. Anytime you add anything to justification by faith in Jesus Christ, then you are perverting the very heart of the Gospel. Any time you introduce the exception clause "but" to the proposition that we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ, you are adding works to the Gospel. The fate of those relying on their own works for their justification is very clear in the Bible... “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ Matthew 7:21-23 A great channel that exposes Calvinism is Beyond the Fundamentals. A good place to begin is, The Calvinist Meme Complex, which delves into the origins of Calvinism. Another good channel that exposes Calvinism is Soteriology 101 with Leighton Flowers. These channels biblically refute all of the typical proof texts that Calvinists use to support Calvinism. If you are a Calvinist, i suggest that you visit these channels so that you can see for yourself exactly how unbiblical Calvinism is. Over and over the Bible warns of false doctrines and myths and heresies and the traditions of man creeping into Biblical Christianity, twisting and perverting God's Word and the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is exactly what Calvinism is and does.... Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Colossians 2:8 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith......" 1 Timothy 6:20-21 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:2-4 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 2 Peter 2:1-2 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Romans 16:17 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:1-3 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; Ephesians 4:13-14 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 1 Timothy 6:3-5 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9 If you are a Calvinist, please take heed to what I am saying. Conduct your own research with an open mind. The channels I suggested are good starting points. Recant your Calvinist beliefs and its many false teachers, free your mind from its enslavement to human philosophy, vain teachings without biblical substance, idolatry, and legalism. I know it is very difficult to accept that you might have been taught nothing but deception and lies in Calvinism. It was difficult for me to accept, and human pride resists any notion that we might be wrong about long cherished beliefs. But it is not impossible, and the Scriptures with the help of tbe Holy Spirit will lead you to Truth if you approach your inquiry with humility. May God bless you by the reading of His Word.
"Calvinism has a different god, a different christ, and is another gospel. I believe that the most dangerous aspect of Calvinism is in P of TULIP-Perseverance of the Saints, and the false gospel of Lordship Salvation that defines P. Calvinism's assertion that, "We are saved by faith alone, but not a faith that is alone" is a subtle way of introducing justification by works into biblical Christianity." so you deny James 2 and Jesus's promise....
@@tomtemple69you made a comment about context and then mention passages that require the entire context otherwise you can make them say something they don’t like you are attempting to do… who is james addressing? Who is James talking about? Context and Calvinism never go together.
The anti-calvinist spirit is on the march, and it has reached a tone so hostile and obnoxious that those of us who both love and believe the truth of Sovereign grace must put on the Armour of truth and fight the spirit of darkness and falsehood. It is our sacred duty to contend for "the" faith and publish it far and wide and observe how the Triune God will bless it to the hearts of all His Elect chosen in His beloved Son, our savior Jesus Christ.
I embrace the opposition - throughout history, God has used polemics to develop and advance biblical doctrine, and I’m sure this time it is no different. I believe the recent proliferation of opposition to Calvinism is the call of God upon the lives of modern reformed thinkers to rise to the occasion - we need to sharpen our thinking and become more biblical than ever.
1:35:00 christians cannot be trapped in sin. Where in the Bible do you find this? Book chapter verse? My Bible says in first John 3:9 "whoever has been born of God does not sin for His seed remains in him and he cannot sin because he has been born of God." Now obviously believers do sin from time to time but I think the idea here is that we cannot continue to live in sin like we used to before we were saved... when we were trapped in it & imprisoned & in bondage & enslaved to it. That's what second Timothy 2:26 is talking about. It's describing an unbeliever.
Arminius never said one could lose salvation. In the the second book on the works of Arminius he only says that we should heed those Scriptures that warn us. That is as far as Arminius goes. he does not broach the issue in his writings.
Part 1 of 2. As a former Calvinist of over 20 years who is now out if Calvinism, i can make the following claims about Calvinism with a biblically informed knowledge base and without any reservations. Here are a few prominent observations. Calvinism is not biblical. It was born outof a rivalous debate between Augustine and Pelagius in the 4th century AD. The entire Calvinist system is based on Maniachian Gnosticism, Pelagian presuppositions of free will, and Augustinian views of predestination and election, which contradicts the Biblical meaning of predestination and election. The T in TULIP, Total Depravity, is built on the authority of these unbiblical, pagan presuppositions and not the Bible. The rest of TULIP (ULIP) necessarily flows if one accepts the false premise of T. Calvinism is therefore necessarily unbiblical. It is rooted in the doctrines and philosophies of man, and its authority lies there, not the Bible. Calvinists are ideologically possessed, just like members of a cult would be, and they read the Bible with their unbiblical presuppositions and assumptions. They must cherry pick Bible verses out of context to support their Calvinist view. This is called eisegesis, and cults do this all of the time. They redefined biblical words like Predestination, Election, and Adoption to mean something that was never intended by the original authors. They invent words and phrases that are not even in the Bible. For example: Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, Perseverance of the Saints; these phrases and many more in the Calvinist lexicon are no where found in the Bible. They are the words of man that do not correspond to what the Bible says. To the Calvinist, the words "all", "every", and "world" do not mean what the Bible actually says. But because the Calvinist god is such an imbecile and can not communicate, it takes a Calvinist to explain what the Bible actually mean. Example: This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires ALL PEOPLE to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom FOR ALL, which is the testimony given at the proper time. (emphasis added) 1 Timothy 2:3-6 Here, the plain reading of 1 Timothy 2:3-6 does not support Calvinism which teaches that their Calvinist god desires that only the elect be saved and that Chist died only for the elect. Since Calvinists reject the authority of the Scriptures, they must twist the Scriptures to fit Calvinism instead of studying the Scriptures to see if Calvinism is true. So Calvinists, the next time you come across the words, all", "every", and "world" in the Bible, then you will see for yourself how you must ignore what the Bible actually says and insert your pre-programmed Calvinist explanation into the text in order to defend Calvinism, because the Bible is not your authority, Calvinism is your authority. Sad but true, but Calvinists elevates the teachings of man above the Scriptures. They regard Calvinism's "giants of the faith" and many modern, cult of personality teachers as virtually infallable in their teachings. Celebrity false teachers like John McArthur, John Piper, RC Sproul, Paul Washer, Steve Lawson and many others are practically worshipped, and Calvinists will defend them and their false teachings at all cost despite the clear and unmistakable Word of God. It is a disgusting display of idolatry. Over and over rhe Bible warns against false teachers. “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Matthew 7:15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 2 Peter 2:1-2 Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2 Timothy 4:2-4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1 Calvinism is like a cult in the way it twist the Scriptures to fit their their faulty, unbiblical worldview. Worse, Calvinists actually clandestinely infiltrate non-Calvinist churches with the purpose of converting non-Calvinist churches to Calvinism. They are cunning and deceptive workers of iniquity who use manipulative and subversive tactics to convert people over to Calvinism. In this way Calvinism is a very destructive heresy that is spiritually abusive and tears churches apart. It is idolatrous, evil, wicked, and probably demonic.
@BurgerBoyda3rd Truth! That's why people get stuck in that hellhole called Calvinism because it's one of the most convincing counterfeits infecting Christ's church
@@SheepDog1974 bondage of the will/total depravity were fundamental cornerstones of the reformation... your denial of Calvinism puts you on Rome's side of the Reformation...
"I don't know who Jesus died for?" I weep for you! John 12:32 KJV And *_I,_* … *_will draw all men unto me._* 1 Timothy 4:10 NASB95 … *_the living God, … is the Savior of all men, especially of believers._* Only those who BELIEVE the work of God (the Gospel), will have their sins imputed to the Cross, and receive Christ's Righteousness. His blood covers all sin of all men, but some will refuse His Righteousness loving to perform their own works of righteousness instead. That includes many unbelieving Christians. Jesus answered … *_This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent._* James 1:18 KJV *_Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth,_* … 1 Peter 1:23 NASB95 … *_you have been born again_* … *_through the living and enduring word of God._* John 6:63-66 KJV … *_the words that I speak_* … *_they are life._* [64] But there are *_some of you that believe not._* … [65] And he said, *_Therefore_* … *_no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father._* [66] From that time *_many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him._*
46:48 So you're saying that God definitely chooses some people for heaven but he doesn't choose or decide that some people go to hell? How is that possible? He's omnipotent! He's also omniscient! Since God has chosen to NOT choose some people for heaven then that's still a Divine choice! Obviously! Haven't you ever decided or chosen to not do something? That is a choice bro. If you're not going to listen to sound reason then consider this verse very carefully. Proverb 16:4 The Lord has made all for himself. yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
I think what is meant is that God actively regenerates the elect and passively let the reprobate go to their own destruction. It's more about avoid the false idea that God creates fresh evil to condemnthe reprobate.
@@maxxiong I wasn't suggesting that God creates disobedience within people. But it says he has made the wicked for the day of doom and you're saying that's him passively letting the reprobate go to their own destruction. I don't see how that can be reconciled. He either made them out of sinful wicked flesh or he didn't. And since he did as we were all children of sin and inherited that sinful nature, he did this knowing exactly what he would do to intervene on his elect and also as you put let the reprobate go to their own destruction. So it sounds to me like we are
Calvin merely summed up the doctrines that were rediscovered during the Reformation via the principles of the Five Solas. Quite simply, it is the summation of the faith once delivered unto the saints. It is the distinction between man -centered theology and Christ-centered theology in relation to the covenants of God.
Let’s get some facts straight: 1. Calvin had a Spanish Physician arrested knowing he would be tried for heresy. Although opposed to having Servetus burned at the stake he was not opposed to his murder. 2. Calvin believed in murder and believed executing some heretics was justifiable. 3. Calvin taught only some are saved. Jesus taught in John 7:17 “Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.” Funny, Jesus said “Anyone”. Who? “Anyone” who what? “Chooses”. To do what? “The Will of God.” Not the “elect” not some. ANYONE! 4. If salvation is predestined than why did Jesus teach us to pray in this way? “Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done.” Not my will but God’s will. It means we need to make a choice. 5. Based on Calvin’s teachings (Notice not what Jesus says but what Calvin says.) Adam and Eve were predestined to Hell. Why? Because according to Calvinists they were destined to Hell. God did not give Adam and Eve a choice. 6. Here’s one for Jeff Durbin since he likes to harass the Mormons. Joseph Smith and John Calvin are no different. They are both teaching to look to them instead of Christ for the answers.
@@davidkinkaide1467 Who cares what John Calvin said. It's about what GOD says. "Calvinism" is just a nickname for the doctrines of GRACE. .... John 7:17 does not say choose. this is what it says "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself." John 6:37-40 tells you what the will of father is...."All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." This is also what God says! Psalm 65:4 " Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple" You Will worshipping idolators have no clue!
@@brianc81 Oh no! I’m a Will worshiping idolater. LOL I kind of like the sound of it. It’s so ridiculous of a statement. It goes well with your Calvinist 5 point nonsense theology. The entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation is about man choosing wickedness or choosing God. Not sure why you Calvinist think you are right. Scripture does not back up your claims. You use syllogistic reasoning to come up with your ideas. Like only some people will be saved and the rest are one a one way ticket to hell. Regardless of what decision you make. You crazy Calvinists think that you can keep on sinning and get into heaven because you think your are the select few who are saved. How arrogant you are to know what God will do with you. You boast of your assurance of salvation. Blasphemy!! Heresy!!! Only God knows your heart and if you are repenting from sin or not.Don’t dare claim to know what God will do with you. Only a fool tests God. Surrender your will to the Father and stop your heresy or you will end up like Servetus burned at the stake.
@@davidkinkaide1467 Your "facts" are wrong and you bear false witness. 1. Calvin warned Servetus not to go to Geneva and he went anyways. He was already arrested by the Roman Catholics who would also have rightly had him executed for blasphemy against the ONE Triune God. Leviticus 24:6"Whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD must surely be put to death; the whole assembly must surely stone him, whether he is a foreign resident or native; if he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death." Is God a murderer for commanding the state to execute blasphemers? Certainly not. 2. Calvin NEVER believed murder was justifiable. He believe in God's Law and that the State should execute criminals who commit capital crimes like Servetus did. Again, you bear false witness. 3. Calvin, like Augustus, Luther and countless other Christians especially, the Apostle Paul that Christ died for HIS SHEEP, NOT THE GOATS. You bear false witness against the Apostle Paul, too. 4. We are to pray, "Thy will not mine be done." We pray that way and we believe it. God's will is for everyone to obey His Holy and Just Law. You don't know the Scriptures. 5. We believe what the Scriptures say that Adam and Eve had a free will. They choose to do their will over God's Will. That made them liable to sin, misery and death. They spiritually died from the point they sinned on. Since Adam, all die in him. We can only live through the righteousness found in Christ and the application of that righteousness through the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit. Dead people cannot choose anything because they are dead. The prophet Jeremiah said that there wasn't one just man in this world. No, not one! All have gone their own way. Their will isn't to do the will of the Father, rather their own. 6. Mormons are cultists who are lost in a sinful and rebellious, pagan religion that teaches that they can become gods, the lie of Satan in the Garden of Eden. We are commanded by Christ in the Great Commission to give ALL the Good News and to teach the nations the Law of God. Matthew 28 You obviously don't know what the Bible teaches and you bear false witness and thus break the Law of God. Stop it or burn in hell.
@@Logos-Nomos Hello Self Proclaimed “The Word of God’s Law.” Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comments. It warms my heart. Like all Calvinists I’ve come across your view of scripture is skewed, stained by Satan, inconsistent and full of arrogance. 1. Servetus escaped the Catholics and came to debate Calvin. Only for Calvin to have Servetus arrested and tried for heresy. Calvin did not object to his punishment of death only to being burned at the stake. Calvin wanted his death by sword. (You really need to do some more research and don’t know what you are writing about.) 2. It’s disgusting you agree that Servetus should have been murdered for disagreeing with Calvin. According to your logic every Protestant should have been burned at the stake by the Catholic Church for heresy. 3. Clearly you are not a Christian. A. Because you condone murder. B. Because you still follow Levitical law. Christ came to fulfill the law and Christians are under a new covenant with the death and resurrection of Christ. 4. Calvinists do a horrible job of using verses to support their corrupt ideas of limited atonement. You are no different. 5. The theology of Mormons is not what Christ taught. Just as the theology of Calvin is not what Christ taught. I appreciate you sharing your wicked and sinful ideas. You exposed yourself of the evil ideas that Calvinists support. I do not and will not support any ideas of scripture that does not follow the teachings of Christ. Calvinist do not follow Christ and are frauds. They don’t openly teach 5 point Tulip unless asked. If they did more Christians would know how fraudulent the Reformed Baptists really are.
Either side is limiting it. Similar to Catholic word games. Not limited atonement in scope. Shed his blood for all. All don't accept. Yet he still shed his blood for every human born, even those who reject it.
47:00+ You said, " Why he hasn't chosen all and why he doesn't save all, the Armenian And the Calvinist cannot answer that one." I completely disagree. Check out Romans chapter 9 that deals with this question specifically. Romans 9:21-24 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, According to the Bible God is glorifying himself and He is making known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy that he has chosen, Also Ephesians chapter 1 states very clearly. Also he is glorifying himself by not choosing others, or in other words, by choosing to not save others in order to show his wrath and to make his power known. So you can't say that this question you originally asked cannot be answered.
Finally! I typed in "John Calvin's tulip proof texts defended" Into the RUclips Search and I got so many videos bashing Calvinism. I must have gone through 100 before I finally found this one which systematically goes through various proof texts. I've already heard what John Macarthur has to say about it.
All we need to know is that neither Luther, nor Calvin, nor Arminius, nor Wesley, nor Popes, nor ANY MAN can save us, BUT OUR LORD YESHUAH HA' MASSHIAH!!! Mull this over: THOSE WHO WERE BORN BEFORE Calvin ARE LOST FOREVER, INCLUDING 1st. CENTURY SAINTS???
In order to address presumption like he said that he was going to do. You have to go back to the display of or doing of where the presumption came from. Ex. Cain and Able story. This story shows mans responsibility. So what is your presumption on mans part in his righteousness. Now you are ready to interpit somthing in the new testament.
Calvinism isn't just soteriology. It is covenant theology based upon the promise made to Abraham and to his children. It is exclusively paedobaptist based on the faith of the parents in faith like Abraham.
That is Reformed Theology. You can be a Calvinist and hold to credo baptism (believers baptism). Reformed Baptists are credo baptists but are considered by many to not be Reformed partially of this. because of this
@@jburghau The false credobaptist view of baptism is the same as ALL the cults. Romanists and Orthodox get it all wrong, too. Five points against the Arminian heresy do not make one Reformed. Reformed theology is Covenant Theology that understands that the Covenant extends to one's children which is so CLEARLY reiterated from the OT to the NT in Acts 2. Credobaptists not only dominate the cults, it is clearly a violation of Christ's command to baptize in Matthew 28, i.e. rebellious sin on the level of Moses' rebellion by refusing to apply the sign and seal of the covenant.
Your definition of omniscience could use refinement. Saying all-knowing doesn’t actually line up with scripture and isn’t consistent with his other capabilities. Most notably his omnipotence.
No, it's because you don't believe in a Sovereign God that does all that he pleases. Psalm 115:3 "But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased"..... The weak beggar god that you believe in doesn't exist. It's simple Will Worshipper...start believing it! Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the Lord." Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." Proverbs 16:9 "A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps."
@@brianc81 man so angry! And with such a small view of God! Our sovereign God does do all he pleases. And what he pleases to do was to forgive all mankind and give all the ability to repent. What a mighty God! The weak God who can only forgive some isn’t worthy!!
@@TheRomans9Guy Nah, you are just stupid coming in here TROLLING with your Will Worship, free will, God chose everyone NONSENSE!. You don't know God , nor do you know what GOD has declared all throughout his Word. Salvation is not just a possibility, it is a finished work that actually saves his people from their sin. According to your false belief, God can't save anyone unless man let's him. That god doesn't exist. The GOD of the bible, Jesus Christ, accomplished salvation for his elected people and he loses NONE of them. Go take your false beggar god somewhere else.
@@TheRomans9Guy //the weak God who can only forgive some// You shouldn’t be comfortable saying things like this! Saying what God can and can’t do is a road I never want to tread I would encourage the same for you. God in His grace has chosen to save some for Himself as His bride. All that the Father gives the Son will come to the Son. What you’re doing is rejecting the biblical God of the Bible. It’s one thing to not be Reformed it’s another to be antagonistic towards Gods sovereign grace.
minute 44 ... I felt sorry for this dude😃😃😃...@ 1:06 he finished without addressing 2nd peter 2 v 1 and for the whole part he was saying we bring our presuppositions into those verses which look like they're against Calvinism ! BROTHER SOLLA SCRIPTURA
Yea I know, pride and the law veils thier minds of truth & in turn changes all their motives,, now their self righteousness ends up being just another cloked form of covetousness stemming from their misplaced religious zeal its sick then they get frustrated then start beating their own sheep with law & back loading works into their gospel messages on full assurance teaching Galatian Error & hauling many off as spoil back to works all because of pride in the FLESH😊. SOLA-GRATIA thru SOLA-FIDA Amen😊
There is a problem here... beginning at 14:45 he says the "Adam and Eve are cursed". The Bible does not say this. (Genesis 3) God curses the SERPENT! He curses the Ground. It does NOT say He cursed the humans. There are CHANGES (pain in childbirth, weeds etc) that effect the humans but it does NOT say they are "cursed"!
“History” you mean ignore the first 400 yrs of church history and jump to a gnostic Augustine? The NT says over 200 times to “Have faith” “Believe “ “ Whosoever” Or the like. Are you suggesting all that is irrelevant? According to Calvinism it is. Because those who are not elect have no hope for salvation, will only reject the gospel yet are held accountable for their unbelief. Why? Because the Bible says? Nope. Because Augustine/Calvinism says so
Instantly became skeptical when you said Calvinism vs. Arminianism. Arminias was a Calvinist. It all stems for isegesis (injecting presumptions into the text.) and strawmanning non-calvinists. This video seems to do the same thing. Calvinism is of the devil, so is Arminianism
@@evanwildermann7034 I don't know. I just looked up free grace theology. I think people who are saved still sin, but the Bible seems pretty clear that a person who believes will show fruits of the spirit. I know that I'm not running around judging who is gonna get into the kingdom
This very well explains a good tree CANNOT produce bad fruit and vice versa as you cannot confess Christ while also denying him btw this is the same sermon takin from Luke's perspective comparing Matthews to Luke's produced better understanding
Of course you can choose God or reject God. There would be NO sin if we all chose God. But we don’t always choose God. We chose to sin. Therefore we have free will and NOTHING is predestined.
That's not what the Bible says .It says this Will Worshipper! Romans 3:10-12 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Romans 8:28-30 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
@@brianc81 Thanks for quoting the usual Calvinist verses that don’t speak about free will or predestination as you understand it. Don’t forget Ephesians 1 and Titus 1. But I will give you a couple of verses to chew on that clearly speaks to free will. In Jesus own words Mark 8:34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.” What’s the key word? Whoever is the key word Again in Jesus own words John 7:17 “Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.” The key word is Anyone! When the Bible speaks of predestination this is referring to what will happen to those who choose God. Their destiny is predestined based on choosing God. Look at the Old Testament. Every story is about a person or tribe either choosing God or rejecting God. Acceptance brought blessings and mercy. Rejection brought death and suffering.
@@jasont5300 Sure it does. If you are a Calvinist it prevents you from seeing things clearly because you need syllogistic reasoning for scripture to make sense.
@@davidkinkaide1467 actually, it doesn’t say anything of the sort. Point it out specifically where it says you have that ability in those verses. I’ll wait. Of course, I can show you specific verses that’s says you don’t have that ability.
At 30:30-31:30... The idea that God would (randomly - with NOTHING that man must do) damn many to hell -he says - "GOES AGAINST HUMAN NATURE" (that, I remind you, God gave to us), does this indicate that OUR nature might be more "just" than God's nature??
Neither of these fairy story doctrines are valid or scriptural. Predestination as spoken of in scripture only applies to born again Christians. In Christ and only once we are in Christ, we are predestined to be sons and daughters of the living God. Eph 5:5, v0 11 Beneficiaries of His inheritance, v12 Predestined to be to the praise of His glory. Romans 8:29 Predestined to be conformed to the image of His son. We press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God IN CHRIST JESUS Nothing to do with either of the controversial theories prorogated by people who did not really know God or His Word
This will be an unpopular comment for you who think Calvinism is a good Gospel alternative, as what Spurgeon once said. Well, let's see, God's will had been discovered by an unrepented killer, to preach that all of us isn't responsible to respond to God's calling, as no one is capable of; and best of all, God so loved the elect only, yet love is forced upon the elects by his great power. No one finds true love in this world that way, and God said many times "You are not willing, not that you can't"
Unconditional election isn’t objectionable to the human mind because our minds don’t work like God’s mind does (“his ways are higher than our ways”) it’s objectionable because it’s ignorant, logically and scripturally. Romans 9 and Ephesians 1, the very passages some think propose unconditional election are so badly eisegeted. These texts are exactly where the apostle Paul was eradicating the Jews’ errant belief of their own teaching of unconditional election.
You don't even believe in the God of the Bible. You want to tell God how he should Act, like the will worshipping Arminian that you are. You believe in a god that can't save anyone unless man let's him or cooperates, then giving sovereignty over to man than the Creator. Romans 9 CLEARLY teaches election and predestination and easily refutes your personal biased heresy and false gospel....Scripture is not on your side! election and predestination is taught al throughout scripture and that Christs atonement for his sheep was an actual finished work.
A lot of false narrative about Pelagius and what happened historically. Disparaging a man through perpetuating false allegations is disingenuous and uncharitable. Do better and study to show yourself approved.
Faith without works is dead. Faith Alone isn't in the Bible. Works without faith is useless. You were handcrafted to work. Faith without Love is NOTHING. Trees without fruit are cast away. You have a role to play in your salvation. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Drunkards, sexually immoral, thieves, greedy, will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. Paul is talking to believers(SAVED).He says do not be deceived if you return to those types of sins. Argument Over.
LOL Faith alone is implied all throughout scripture. Trinity is not in the bible either, but it's certainly implied. Let's look at scripture shall we? Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast." Romans 4:2-6 "For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works," Romans 1:16-17 " For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith" Either you are just smoking a crack pipe, or you are just being ignorant to scripture.
@@mercibeaucoup2639 It's spelled SAVIOUR goofball! (7 letters, the number of God). You're are right, you serve another jesus and believe in another gospel that can save no-one unless man cooperates and let's him. You worship the will of men, which they are dead in sin, and not the Will of God that has the power to save ALL that were given to him by the father. If you knew scripture, your response should be in agreement with what scripture says in Ephesians and Romans. The just lives by FAITH!
@@mercibeaucoup2639 Right! because you really don't believe God and his Word, that's why you deny John 6:44, Romans 8 and 9. You are just a will worshipper who worships a false christ that only makes salvation possible, but can't save no-one unless man cooperates and let's him. The God of the Bible actually saves his people from their sin, and ALL that were given to Jesus will come, and he loses NONE of them. Seriously, take your false gospel elsewhere!
Ephesians 1:11 states, "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh ALL THINGS after the counsel of his own will."
Wow! Falsehood after falsehood. Salvation does not come down to either trusting God or trusting yourself. It comes down to believing in Jesus Christ as your savior from separation from God or believing in the world. God is spirit. The world is flesh. The only flesh we are to trust is that of Christ. Having lived, died and resurrected. Salvation comes from a trust and belief in Christ. Period!
@@jasont5300 He's a Will Worshipper...You can't expect much from them considering they deny most of what the Bible teaches. They want it so bad for salvation to be about themselves, and it's a false christ (that can't save anyone) is what they really believe in.
Calvin and his cohorts were burning people at the stake because they didn't agree with Calvinism. There's a guy who is convinced that nothing can absolve his salvation(including murder). Do not be deceived. You will be judged by your works. James 2 24 Love is required. Faith Alone is a false interpretation.
We are absolutely not judged by our works and James does not say that we are judged by our works. James says that faith will produce works and, of course, that’s true. He does not say that our salvation is, in any way, based on works. The works doctrine is a disastrous doctrine that takes away God’s providence and Grace and gives it to men. It even pretends that men can possibly do anything worthy of being saved. Flee from the heretical doctrine of works. It is the doctrine that the unrepentant unelected heart believes. That we can come to God by being good enough. We cannot!
@@shawnglass108 1 Corinthians 6 9-10 Do not be deceived. Drunks, fornicators,greedy, thieves, will no inherit the kingdom of God. Looks like some works there doesn't it?
@@newhavenfishermen , No..It doesn’t look like works. It looks like a list of sins. Sins that are paid for by the blood of Christ. Do you think Jesus just paid for your sins before you were born again and not the sins you commit after that? Is his blood not enough for those? Or is Gods Grace not big enough? Good luck not being a sinner and trying to working your way into heaven. God said man’s righteousness is filthy rags. I am saved by Grace through Faith alone. My Faith produces good works because true Faith in God has no choice but to produce works. But my works will not save me. Because they cannot save me.
@@shawnglass108 Greetings. If one truly loves God they will keep His commands John 14:15 which is in plural form. It is more than one command. James 2:14 what good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Do you agree with James 2:14? “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” (Philippians 2:12). It’s not up to the Christian Catholics or me, but is up to God who determines if only believing in Him will take you to heaven. James 2:19 “You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder”. I only follow what Holy Scripture instructs me to do. A True Christian will never relinquish the faith and obey God’s commands. My friend, you are entitled to only believe and reject God’s commands. God bless you.
Now that you guys have pretty well nailed down this precious doctrine, you need to stop profaning the Lord Sabbath and worshiping the unholy pagan catholic trinity abomination. I realized that this is probably going to fall on deaf ears or incite outrage in most people. I encourage you to withhold judgment and trust and obey God first by examine everything in this most impressive three part RUclips sermon called "unmasking the mark". 1 thess. 5:21 shabbat shalom BTW 😊
I know im saved because i believe what Jesus says He did for me😊
This is amazing John. I grew up in a very legalistic Arminian type church and just a few years ago found my way out and discovered reformed theology through the writing of Dr. RC Sproul, and a little later Dr. Steven Lawson, and then almost immediately found your podcast on Spotify and it has totally changed my life. For 30 years I tried to work my way into heaven and try so hard to be a perfect Christian under my own strength and failed so miserably I almost gave up and destined myself for hell. But when The spirit opened my eyes and I finally realized that it has nothing to do with what I do and everything to do with what Jesus did it changed everything. I have the assurance of heaven so rock solid now unlike anything else I’ve tried my entire life. Shortly after that I started studying Calvinism and the five points and they totally made sense to me like never before. I really don’t have a problem with the acronym and the words that were use with it because if you study the historical context of the words and the meaning at the time they totally make sense. The one point I can say that means the most to me and has totally changed me is the irresistible grace. I understand it to mean that when the Holy Spirit reveals the truth of the gospel to you it becomes irresistible to you and you want nothing more than to study it, live it and share it with other people. And what’s even more amazing is that my wife has said she notices a huge change in me and wants to know more about it as well. She was raised with the same theology I was and I want her to see the truth in the gospel and find it irresistible like I do.
While the legalistic church you grew up in sounds horrible, Calvinism is absolutely a worse answer. You like Irresistible Grace, spend some time on Unconditional Election. That’s not the God of the Bible.
@@TheRomans9Guy The Doctrines of GRACE is biblical, Will Worshipper! God elects and predestined his sheep, and gave his life for the sheep (John 10:11-15)....Jesus made it pretty clear in John 6:37 "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." and Jesus proceeds to say he loses NONE "that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." (John 6:39)
You Will Worshippers hate the God that has revealed himself in the scriptures. A perfect SAVIOUR that actually saved his people from their sins. The false Christ you worship only makes salvation possible, but can't save no-one unless man cooperates and let's him. What a weak beggar and god you serve!
@@TheRomans9Guy , You’re teaching a false Gospel that takes the providence of God and gives it to men. The only thing we contribute to our Salvation is the sin that makes it necessary.
@@shawnglass108 no, it’s the actual Gospel. The good news that God has forgiven all mankind and all we need do is repent and believe. Gods providence is the all-forgiveness part, our part is the surrender part. Calvinism is the terrible false gospel.
@@TheRomans9Guy No, it's not the gospel. If Christ forgiven all mankind and laid his life down for every individual (without exception), then there is no sin to punish and Hell will empty! You are teaching universal atonement, which is a damnable heresy! The false god you believe in only makes salvation possible, but can't save anyone unless man cooperates and let's him. The Bible declares an actual finished work, where Jesus actually saves his people and he loses NONE of them, his sheep made up of believers. Are you going to continue to troll and spew your "everyone is chosen" nonsense, or are you going to REPENT of your false doctrine?
Praise God! Blessed by this message!
Excellent..All Glory to God🙌🙌
Thank you so much for this clarity. I appreciate this so much. I’ve been so confused, lately. Blessings to you.
So you do a really good job examining the various proof texts from both viewpoints. I would like to see more videos like this that cover ALL of the proof texts from both viewpoints comprehensively please. I also like how you divide the video into sections because most people I know don't have the attention capacity for these longer ones as I do.
Very grateful to have found all of this.
Shabbat Shalom brother.
My mind is renewed. Thank you
Btw i like how we both said universalism at the same time
great series Brother Jon, great job in delivering and I like all your shirts too, shirt number four on Limited Atonement was my favorite, just saying.
Are you suggesting that a person receives the Holy Spirit before they come to faith in Christ?
And if they did already, why do they even need to hear the gospel?
Hearing the Gospel is the means by which we received the Spirit.
@@sorithplays3634 yeah thats what the scriptures say some Calvinists dont agree with that
@@sorithplays3634 do you have a Scripture reference for that? I don't mean to say it is not obvious the Scriptures are Spirit breathed as they say they are, but what is your understanding of the Scriptures that say believers need the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I understand even the ancient practice of the Orthodox Church since the time of the apostles recognizes there is a water baptism for remission of sins and they also recognize the sealing of the Holy Spirit on the newly converted right after baptism
@@TheJCFan think "intervention" coming first!
Something I've heard, and it may be an unfair generalization, but "people don't like God being God". This applies with arguing for free will. We hate that God decides things for us ahead of time. We want control. I think our flesh hates sovereignty even over our "free" will.
I hate myself and how sinful I am. I don't want to make any decisions. I wish God would either totally control me or take me out of this world.
@@According_To_Matt He will do both in His time and way! Trust His result!!!
@@According_To_Matt same here matt.
Uncharitable straw man argument, Do better.
I’ve been listening to the free will/sovereignty debate for some time. I’ve come to the conclusion that our view of the Gospel determines which side we come down on. POV.
Not really
Love this! Happy 4th of July. God is good!
At 16:07 you make the assertion that The Fall took away from us the capacity to believe in God. No scripture says that. You don’t cite a scripture for that. That’s a direct contradiction of Romans 1. In fact, not even Adam and Eve ceased believing in God as a result of the fall. Yet this idea that all of humanity now comes into the world without the capacity to believe in God is a necessary prerequisite for the entire Calvinistic system. I don’t know if you even realize you said it. It’s just so ingrained in the indoctrinated Calvinist that it comes out of you as if it’s scripture. It’s not.
I’m more with the confessional Lutherans on this, but like Theocast and listen to the shows quite a bit 👍
Same. Exact same.
🎉🎉🎉 Thank you
I was demon possesed when God saved me,is that possible? My life changed totally,even my depression,that I had for years stopped when I started reading Bible and praying
In find it difficult to refute predestination and election as this is woven so much through the bible. The Israelites over and over are referred to as chosen. Pharaoh's heart was hardened. Did he have a choice? Could his will have changed the outcome? The bible says that God alone give us a new heart. Did Paul choose for himself to be converted? I would argue no one would choose Christ, it's not a easy. I'm surprised that people feel so strongly against Calvinism. I read the bible and then saw where the theology applied. I did not ascribe to the theology and then see what verses fit. I read the entire bible, then read it again with this in mind. I feel like the proof is there in scripture. I still haven't decided about Limited atonement so I'm interested in that video.
So we don’t have free choice? Why would God say whoever believes in Jesus will have everlasting life? Why wouldn’t he say whosoever I chose that believes in him will have everlasting life.
@@liamoore409 watch the video! He answers that question and more.
@@christynoordhoek2636 I’m watching it rn. I probably won’t ever become a Calvinist. It’s not a salvation issue, I believe and put all my trust in Jesus, that’s all that matters. I guess will can ask God in heaven and we will know for sure then.
@@liamoore409 I agree! Doctrine and theology are important but not all of it is salvific. I like these videos and discussions because it pushes me to think about the Bible and what I believe. I like to discuss if someone can debate and still walk away with opposing views recognizing that I’m still a sister In Christ! Good point!
@@liamoore409 The doctrines of grace is a salvation issue. You believe in a god that can't save anyone unless man let's him or cooperates, That god doesn't exist. The GOD of the Bible actually accomplished salvation for his people and loses NONE of ALL that were given to Jesus Christ by the father. Read John chapter 6, 10, 17...specifically John 6:28-29, John 6:37-44, John 6:64-65, John 10:24-29, John 17:2, John 17:9
I find Romans 2 contradicts total depravity I don't know whether to believe that we were dead before we sin I'm free grace free will theology that's my understanding call it easy believism
Iam a reformed christian..just want to know who are on the other side who embrace free will..which majority of evangelicals are. Is their salvation ilor faith genuine..or true saving faith.???..
Of course it is! Just because someone thinks they chose to follow God out of free will doesn’t mean they don’t truly believe the Gospel!
I accepted Jesus when I believed in free will salvation. Now I think Calvinism is the most correct view. I can tell you I was surely saved before I understood this.
i believe some of them have true faith and are elect, they're just misled
If I trust and believe the "5 points of Calvinism", and conclude that Phillipians 1:6 means that my Salvation is started and finished by God (His intervention)!!!
Then, what am I and what am I NOT??
That is a good question and I don't know the answer
@@danielhoward7310 trust Phil. 1:6...
@@BobF1950 "he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus"
@@danielhoward7310 dittos
we are told why he chooses some but not others ,he chooses the foolish to confound the wise,romans chapters 9 ,10,and 11,tells us about this mystery
1:32:58 You're talking about Peter before he received the spirit of God at Pentecost bro. How could peter lose his salvation if he wasn't even saved in the first place when he denied the Lord 3 times? He wasn't saved until God's spirit sealed him at Pentecost.
What exactly made God seal Peter in the end? Why did that happen?
@@nvateach1 nothing dear. Nothing can "make God" do anything. This is true because he's omnipotent and everything belongs to him anyways because he made everything and upholds everything by the word of his power and in him all things exist and have their being et cetera et cetera.
Acts 17:24-25 (KJV):
"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things."
I think you might already know that so I'm going to move on to your next question. God sealed Peter with his Holy Spirit because he had determined to do so before the foundations of the world according to Ephesians chapter one. There's lots of old testament passages that talk about this too. God will accomplish everything he has purposed to do and all of his good pleasure et cetera et cetera. And in the New Testament it says that, "known to God from eternity are all his works." acts 15:18
There is a difference that needs to be made between predestination and providence. But that's a huge topic that I will not attempt in this puny chat forum.
"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in."
Does the phrase "them that are entering in" refer to reprobates that were passed over in eternity past, those of whom God (or at least Calvinism's caricature) is not interested in their eternal welfare?
If so, why would the Lord say that they were "entering"? And does this verse mean that they would have entered into the kingdom were it not for the fact that, according to the Lord, the Pharisees "bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders"? Would the Calvinist contend that the heavy burdens of the Pharisees are the "means" by which God makes sure the non-elect are excluded, thus stopping them from continuing to enter into the kingdom?
I'm labeled calvinist constantly and they actually hate me because I believe in the absolute sovereignty of God. They label me and I don't care about calvin. Leave calvin OUT
Salvation isnt possible in your hands but its a free gift thats easy to access and it comes by hearing and hearing by the word of god i love you theocast guys but we strongly depart here i will still watch you guys your an inspiration for me but we depart on this keep preachong the good news but i suggest keeping your deeper thologies quiet unless you want to encourage backbiting
The point made when Jesus spoke to Nicodemus about needing to be born again is utterly lost on people these days. That lightbulb moment, like Jon said, was asking the question "Did anyone have ANYTHING to do with their first birth?" The answer of course is "No." So what makes us believe that we have anything to do with the second birth? Jesus was always VERY careful and particular with His wording because He was always teaching multiple layers of wisdom. Hence, this is why He used the analogy of birth, where there is no volition or choice involved by the one being created.
Similarly, why else would man be described as "dead in trespasses and sins"? Ask those who espouse "free will" what does this actually mean and you will get all kinds of answers to try and get around that dead means DEAD. What do dead things DO? What is a dead thing capable of? Nothing but rotting. Likewise, when Ezekiel talks about God taking the heart of stone and giving a heart of flesh (again, God is the one doing it), think about what this means. Essentially this is God doing a heart transplant. What doctor or person performs their OWN heart surgery?
Amen! Jesus said it CLEARLY! NO MAN can come to Jesus except the father DRAWS him. This means men can do nothing except GOD that draws in his sheep (and he draws only his sheep). John 17:2 "As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him."
This is a silly argument. Yes, Jesus was saying you need to choose to be born again…baptism? And yes, us free-willers understand what it means to be dead in your transgressions.
Being dead in your transgressions means if it were left up to you, your salvation and eternal life would already be decided, you’d not gain them. Your sins already warrant death. But the good news, it’s literally called “the Gospel”, is that Jesus died in your place and God forgave all your sins so that now, if you only surrender to God he will grant you eternal life. And he’s given everyone that ability. See? Easy to understand. No antimony/heresy/blasphemy needed!
@@TheRomans9Guy That's not what the Bible teaches Will Worshipper. John 1:12-13 "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
@@brianc81 so, you’re not doing a great job of reading comprehension. John 1:11-12 “he came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God…” So…the ones who were “his” were the unbelieving Jews, the ones who weren’t were the gentiles. If God just chose some, then John 1 would tell you the ones who were “his” were the unbelieving Jews. Then what, God lied and decided to pick others? If your stance is true, God just chooses some, then you’re making a wreck out of the Bible and God. Sheesh.
@@brianc81 and you’re also wrecking John 6. Sure, no man can come to Jesus except that the father draws him. We can’t force God to give us eternal life. But God draws everyone. Those who listen, repent and surrender, those are the ones God gives over to Jesus. This is simple stuff. Have you not heard this before??
Awesome thanks man
I thank God that he protected me from the pitfalls of Calvinism, a true burden on the believer. Believers don't get ensnared by this bewitching philosophy of man
I think the answer is in what you said. God came to save sinners. Not All people but sinners who agree of their failure.
I have a neighbor who thinks he is so good, never in the wrong and believes in a benevolent God that will save him yet he will never humble himself. Point out his errors and he gets angry, denies and won't see him for a month.
If a phylosophy is named after a man its not biblical, because if it was why is the name its named after getting credit for whats in the bible already
Part 2 of 2. I disagree with any view that Calvinism is just another branch of Christianity. Calvinism has a different god, a different christ, and is another gospel. I believe that the most dangerous aspect of Calvinism is in P of TULIP-Perseverance of the Saints, and the false gospel of Lordship Salvation that defines P. Calvinism's assertion that, "We are saved by faith alone, but not a faith that is alone" is a subtle way of introducing justification by works into biblical Christianity.
According to P you must persevere in faith and works of the Law, you must submit to the Lordship of Christ, and you must be obedient and behave in certain ways otherwise you must not be one of the elect. This directly contradicts the many Scriptures that we are justified by faith in Jesus Christ apart from the works of the law. No where in the New Testament does it explicitly say that submitting to the Lordship of Christ is a necessary condition for one's justification.
Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
Galatians 3:2-3
As you read the following Scriptures, please note, nowhere does it say that faith and believing unto salvation itself is a gift. The Scriptures say In Ephesians 2:8, the gift is "salvation" by grace through faith, not "faith" itself.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9
Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Romans 5:2
And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
Romans 4:5
I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.
Galatians 2:21
For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
Romans 3:28
Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”
Galatians 3:11
And be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith-
Philippians 3:9
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
Romans 10:4
Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
Galatians 2:16
For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:20
For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”
Romans 4:2-3
Do you see the problem? The moment you point to your obedience to God's Laws and your own efforts to prove your salvation, you are basing your salvation on "your performance" and not the "finished work of Jesus Christ", contradicting God's promise of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ apart from the works of the law.
Anytime you add anything to justification by faith in Jesus Christ, then you are perverting the very heart of the Gospel. Any time you introduce the exception clause "but" to the proposition that we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ, you are adding works to the Gospel. The fate of those relying on their own works for their justification is very clear in the Bible...
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Matthew 7:21-23
A great channel that exposes Calvinism is Beyond the Fundamentals. A good place to begin is, The Calvinist Meme Complex, which delves into the origins of Calvinism. Another good channel that exposes Calvinism is Soteriology 101 with Leighton Flowers. These channels biblically refute all of the typical proof texts that Calvinists use to support Calvinism. If you are a Calvinist, i suggest that you visit these channels so that you can see for yourself exactly how unbiblical Calvinism is.
Over and over the Bible warns of false doctrines and myths and heresies and the traditions of man creeping into Biblical Christianity, twisting and perverting God's Word and the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is exactly what Calvinism is and does....
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:8
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith......"
1 Timothy 6:20-21
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Timothy 4:2-4
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2 Peter 2:1-2
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Romans 16:17
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 4:1-3
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Ephesians 4:13-14
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1 Timothy 6:3-5
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:6-9
If you are a Calvinist, please take heed to what I am saying. Conduct your own research with an open mind. The channels I suggested are good starting points. Recant your Calvinist beliefs and its many false teachers, free your mind from its enslavement to human philosophy, vain teachings without biblical substance, idolatry, and legalism. I know it is very difficult to accept that you might have been taught nothing but deception and lies in Calvinism. It was difficult for me to accept, and human pride resists any notion that we might be wrong about long cherished beliefs. But it is not impossible, and the Scriptures with the help of tbe Holy Spirit will lead you to Truth if you approach your inquiry with humility. May God bless you by the reading of His Word.
An excellent response and breakdown of calvinism. God bless you and pray this message resonates with the hearts of many.
wow, a bunch of out of context prooftexts...
"Calvinism has a different god, a different christ, and is another gospel. I believe that the most dangerous aspect of Calvinism is in P of TULIP-Perseverance of the Saints, and the false gospel of Lordship Salvation that defines P. Calvinism's assertion that, "We are saved by faith alone, but not a faith that is alone" is a subtle way of introducing justification by works into biblical Christianity."
so you deny James 2 and Jesus's promise....
@@tomtemple69you made a comment about context and then mention passages that require the entire context otherwise you can make them say something they don’t like you are attempting to do… who is james addressing? Who is James talking about?
Context and Calvinism never go together.
Thats not what the "P" says. We're kept by Him, not by us.
The anti-calvinist spirit is on the march, and it has reached a tone so hostile and obnoxious that those of us who both love and believe the truth of Sovereign grace must put on the Armour of truth and fight the spirit of darkness and falsehood. It is our sacred duty to contend for "the" faith and publish it far and wide and observe how the Triune God will bless it to the hearts of all His Elect chosen in His beloved Son, our savior Jesus Christ.
I embrace the opposition - throughout history, God has used polemics to develop and advance biblical doctrine, and I’m sure this time it is no different. I believe the recent proliferation of opposition to Calvinism is the call of God upon the lives of modern reformed thinkers to rise to the occasion - we need to sharpen our thinking and become more biblical than ever.
1:35:00 christians cannot be trapped in sin. Where in the Bible do you find this? Book chapter verse? My Bible says in first John 3:9 "whoever has been born of God does not sin for His seed remains in him and he cannot sin because he has been born of God." Now obviously believers do sin from time to time but I think the idea here is that we cannot continue to live in sin like we used to before we were saved... when we were trapped in it & imprisoned & in bondage & enslaved to it.
That's what second Timothy 2:26 is talking about. It's describing an unbeliever.
Never lost, Is never Saved.
@@MariusVanWoerden if you live outside of time, like God does, you are able to forgive sin as if, "it never happened"!!!
Arminius never said one could lose salvation. In the the second book on the works of Arminius he only says that we should heed those Scriptures that warn us. That is as far as Arminius goes. he does not broach the issue in his writings.
Part 1 of 2. As a former Calvinist of over 20 years who is now out if Calvinism, i can make the following claims about Calvinism with a biblically informed knowledge base and without any reservations. Here are a few prominent observations.
Calvinism is not biblical. It was born outof a rivalous debate between Augustine and Pelagius in the 4th century AD. The entire Calvinist system is based on Maniachian Gnosticism, Pelagian presuppositions of free will, and Augustinian views of predestination and election, which contradicts the Biblical meaning of predestination and election.
The T in TULIP, Total Depravity, is built on the authority of these unbiblical, pagan presuppositions and not the Bible. The rest of TULIP (ULIP) necessarily flows if one accepts the false premise of T. Calvinism is therefore necessarily unbiblical. It is rooted in the doctrines and philosophies of man, and its authority lies there, not the Bible.
Calvinists are ideologically possessed, just like members of a cult would be, and they read the Bible with their unbiblical presuppositions and assumptions. They must cherry pick Bible verses out of context to support their Calvinist view. This is called eisegesis, and cults do this all of the time. They redefined biblical words like Predestination, Election, and Adoption to mean something that was never intended by the original authors. They invent words and phrases that are not even in the Bible. For example: Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, Perseverance of the Saints; these phrases and many more in the Calvinist lexicon are no where found in the Bible. They are the words of man that do not correspond to what the Bible says.
To the Calvinist, the words "all", "every", and "world" do not mean what the Bible actually says. But because the Calvinist god is such an imbecile and can not communicate, it takes a Calvinist to explain what the Bible actually mean. Example:
This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires ALL PEOPLE to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom FOR ALL, which is the testimony given at the proper time. (emphasis added)
1 Timothy 2:3-6
Here, the plain reading of 1 Timothy 2:3-6 does not support Calvinism which teaches that their Calvinist god desires that only the elect be saved and that Chist died only for the elect. Since Calvinists reject the authority of the Scriptures, they must twist the Scriptures to fit Calvinism instead of studying the Scriptures to see if Calvinism is true. So Calvinists, the next time you come across the words, all", "every", and "world" in the Bible, then you will see for yourself how you must ignore what the Bible actually says and insert your pre-programmed Calvinist explanation into the text in order to defend Calvinism, because the Bible is not your authority, Calvinism is your authority.
Sad but true, but Calvinists elevates the teachings of man above the Scriptures. They regard Calvinism's "giants of the faith" and many modern, cult of personality teachers as virtually infallable in their teachings. Celebrity false teachers like John McArthur, John Piper, RC Sproul, Paul Washer, Steve Lawson and many others are practically worshipped, and Calvinists will defend them and their false teachings at all cost despite the clear and unmistakable Word of God. It is a disgusting display of idolatry. Over and over rhe Bible warns against false teachers.
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Matthew 7:15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.
2 Peter 2:1-2
Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
2 Timothy 4:2-4
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1
Calvinism is like a cult in the way it twist the Scriptures to fit their their faulty, unbiblical worldview. Worse, Calvinists actually clandestinely infiltrate non-Calvinist churches with the purpose of converting non-Calvinist churches to Calvinism. They are cunning and deceptive workers of iniquity who use manipulative and subversive tactics to convert people over to Calvinism. In this way Calvinism is a very destructive heresy that is spiritually abusive and tears churches apart. It is idolatrous, evil, wicked, and probably demonic.
Cringe
@@sorithplays3634 cringe, that's up to you, but is Calvinism biblical? No!
God is such an imbecile. You now have commited the Sin Agains The Holy Spirit.
Calvinism in a nutshell: let's see how close we can emulate Christianity whilst at the same time perverting and corrupting it.
@BurgerBoyda3rd Truth! That's why people get stuck in that hellhole called Calvinism because it's one of the most convincing counterfeits infecting Christ's church
Adjusting how you read the Bible.... thats a great idea @theocast
yeah... because you're probably reading it wrong
@@tomtemple69 says the calvinists
@@SheepDog1974 so you deny sola fide?
@@tomtemple69 who said anything about denying the faith? It's calvinism that distorts the faith.
@@SheepDog1974 bondage of the will/total depravity were fundamental cornerstones of the reformation...
your denial of Calvinism puts you on Rome's side of the Reformation...
Sure had to change the meaning of a lot of easy words to make this fit.
"I don't know who Jesus died for?"
I weep for you!
John 12:32 KJV
And *_I,_* … *_will draw all men unto me._*
1 Timothy 4:10 NASB95
… *_the living God, … is the Savior of all men, especially of believers._*
Only those who BELIEVE the work of God (the Gospel), will have their sins imputed to the Cross, and receive Christ's Righteousness. His blood covers all sin of all men, but some will refuse His Righteousness loving to perform their own works of righteousness instead. That includes many unbelieving Christians.
Jesus answered … *_This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent._*
James 1:18 KJV
*_Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth,_* …
1 Peter 1:23 NASB95
… *_you have been born again_* … *_through the living and enduring word of God._*
John 6:63-66 KJV
… *_the words that I speak_* … *_they are life._*
[64] But there are *_some of you that believe not._* …
[65] And he said, *_Therefore_* … *_no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father._*
[66] From that time *_many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him._*
46:48 So you're saying that God definitely chooses some people for heaven but he doesn't choose or decide that some people go to hell?
How is that possible?
He's omnipotent! He's also omniscient!
Since God has chosen to NOT choose some people for heaven then that's still a Divine choice!
Obviously!
Haven't you ever decided or chosen to not do something?
That is a choice bro.
If you're not going to listen to sound reason then consider this verse very carefully.
Proverb 16:4
The Lord has made all for himself. yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
I think what is meant is that God actively regenerates the elect and passively let the reprobate go to their own destruction. It's more about avoid the false idea that God creates fresh evil to condemnthe reprobate.
@@maxxiong I wasn't suggesting that God creates disobedience within people. But it says he has made the wicked for the day of doom and you're saying that's him passively letting the reprobate go to their own destruction. I don't see how that can be reconciled. He either made them out of sinful wicked flesh or he didn't. And since he did as we were all children of sin and inherited that sinful nature, he did this knowing exactly what he would do to intervene on his elect and also as you put let the reprobate go to their own destruction. So it sounds to me like we are
Calvin merely summed up the doctrines that were rediscovered during the Reformation via the principles of the Five Solas. Quite simply, it is the summation of the faith once delivered unto the saints. It is the distinction between man -centered theology and Christ-centered theology in relation to the covenants of God.
Let’s get some facts straight:
1. Calvin had a Spanish Physician arrested knowing he would be tried for heresy. Although opposed to having Servetus burned at the stake he was not opposed to his murder.
2. Calvin believed in murder and believed executing some heretics was justifiable.
3. Calvin taught only some are saved. Jesus taught in John 7:17 “Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.” Funny, Jesus said “Anyone”. Who? “Anyone” who what? “Chooses”. To do what? “The Will of God.” Not the “elect” not some. ANYONE!
4. If salvation is predestined than why did Jesus teach us to pray in this way? “Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done.” Not my will but God’s will. It means we need to make a choice.
5. Based on Calvin’s teachings (Notice not what Jesus says but what Calvin says.) Adam and Eve were predestined to Hell. Why? Because according to Calvinists they were destined to Hell. God did not give Adam and Eve a choice.
6. Here’s one for Jeff Durbin since he likes to harass the Mormons. Joseph Smith and John Calvin are no different. They are both teaching to look to them instead of Christ for the answers.
@@davidkinkaide1467 Who cares what John Calvin said. It's about what GOD says. "Calvinism" is just a nickname for the doctrines of GRACE. ....
John 7:17 does not say choose. this is what it says "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself."
John 6:37-40 tells you what the will of father is...."All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."
This is also what God says! Psalm 65:4 " Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple"
You Will worshipping idolators have no clue!
@@brianc81 Oh no! I’m a Will worshiping idolater. LOL I kind of like the sound of it. It’s so ridiculous of a statement. It goes well with your Calvinist 5 point nonsense theology. The entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation is about man choosing wickedness or choosing God. Not sure why you Calvinist think you are right. Scripture does not back up your claims. You use syllogistic reasoning to come up with your ideas. Like only some people will be saved and the rest are one a one way ticket to hell. Regardless of what decision you make. You crazy Calvinists think that you can keep on sinning and get into heaven because you think your are the select few who are saved. How arrogant you are to know what God will do with you. You boast of your assurance of salvation. Blasphemy!! Heresy!!! Only God knows your heart and if you are repenting from sin or not.Don’t dare claim to know what God will do with you. Only a fool tests God. Surrender your will to the Father and stop your heresy or you will end up like Servetus burned at the stake.
@@davidkinkaide1467 Your "facts" are wrong and you bear false witness.
1. Calvin warned Servetus not to go to Geneva and he went anyways. He was already arrested by the Roman Catholics who would also have rightly had him executed for blasphemy against the ONE Triune God. Leviticus 24:6"Whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD must surely be put to death; the whole assembly must surely stone him, whether he is a foreign resident or native; if he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death." Is God a murderer for commanding the state to execute blasphemers? Certainly not.
2. Calvin NEVER believed murder was justifiable. He believe in God's Law and that the State should execute criminals who commit capital crimes like Servetus did. Again, you bear false witness.
3. Calvin, like Augustus, Luther and countless other Christians especially, the Apostle Paul that Christ died for HIS SHEEP, NOT THE GOATS. You bear false witness against the Apostle Paul, too.
4. We are to pray, "Thy will not mine be done." We pray that way and we believe it. God's will is for everyone to obey His Holy and Just Law. You don't know the Scriptures.
5. We believe what the Scriptures say that Adam and Eve had a free will. They choose to do their will over God's Will. That made them liable to sin, misery and death. They spiritually died from the point they sinned on. Since Adam, all die in him. We can only live through the righteousness found in Christ and the application of that righteousness through the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit. Dead people cannot choose anything because they are dead. The prophet Jeremiah said that there wasn't one just man in this world. No, not one! All have gone their own way. Their will isn't to do the will of the Father, rather their own.
6. Mormons are cultists who are lost in a sinful and rebellious, pagan religion that teaches that they can become gods, the lie of Satan in the Garden of Eden. We are commanded by Christ in the Great Commission to give ALL the Good News and to teach the nations the Law of God. Matthew 28
You obviously don't know what the Bible teaches and you bear false witness and thus break the Law of God. Stop it or burn in hell.
@@Logos-Nomos Hello Self Proclaimed “The Word of God’s Law.” Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comments. It warms my heart. Like all Calvinists I’ve come across your view of scripture is skewed, stained by Satan, inconsistent and full of arrogance.
1. Servetus escaped the Catholics and came to debate Calvin. Only for Calvin to have Servetus arrested and tried for heresy. Calvin did not object to his punishment of death only to being burned at the stake. Calvin wanted his death by sword. (You really need to do some more research and don’t know what you are writing about.)
2. It’s disgusting you agree that Servetus should have been murdered for disagreeing with Calvin. According to your logic every Protestant should have been burned at the stake by the Catholic Church for heresy.
3. Clearly you are not a Christian. A. Because you condone murder. B. Because you still follow Levitical law. Christ came to fulfill the law and Christians are under a new covenant with the death and resurrection of Christ.
4. Calvinists do a horrible job of using verses to support their corrupt ideas of limited atonement. You are no different.
5. The theology of Mormons is not what Christ taught. Just as the theology of Calvin is not what Christ taught.
I appreciate you sharing your wicked and sinful ideas. You exposed yourself of the evil ideas that Calvinists support. I do not and will not support any ideas of scripture that does not follow the teachings of Christ. Calvinist do not follow Christ and are frauds. They don’t openly teach 5 point Tulip unless asked. If they did more Christians would know how fraudulent the Reformed Baptists really are.
Either side is limiting it. Similar to Catholic word games. Not limited atonement in scope. Shed his blood for all. All don't accept. Yet he still shed his blood for every human born, even those who reject it.
So you believe God is punishing some people when their sins are already paid for?
@@gigahorse1475So you believe the elect are already reconciled to God at conception?
47:00+ You said, " Why he hasn't chosen all and why he doesn't save all, the Armenian And the Calvinist cannot answer that one."
I completely disagree. Check out Romans chapter 9 that deals with this question specifically.
Romans 9:21-24
Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory,
According to the Bible God is glorifying himself and He is making known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy that he has chosen, Also Ephesians chapter 1 states very clearly.
Also he is glorifying himself by not choosing others, or in other words, by choosing to not save others in order to show his wrath and to make his power known. So you can't say that this question you originally asked cannot be answered.
Finally! I typed in "John Calvin's tulip proof texts defended" Into the RUclips Search and I got so many videos bashing Calvinism. I must have gone through 100 before I finally found this one which systematically goes through various proof texts. I've already heard what John Macarthur has to say about it.
don't listen to John Macarthur, he isn't Reformed
All we need to know is that neither Luther, nor Calvin, nor Arminius, nor Wesley, nor Popes, nor ANY MAN can save us, BUT OUR LORD YESHUAH HA' MASSHIAH!!! Mull this over: THOSE WHO WERE BORN BEFORE Calvin ARE LOST FOREVER, INCLUDING 1st. CENTURY SAINTS???
In order to address presumption like he said that he was going to do. You have to go back to the display of or doing of where the presumption came from. Ex. Cain and Able story. This story shows mans responsibility. So what is your presumption on mans part in his righteousness. Now you are ready to interpit somthing in the new testament.
its simple his sheep know his voice the goats know their masters voice and even if the goats see miracles they cannot believe with a saving faith
Calvinism isn't just soteriology. It is covenant theology based upon the promise made to Abraham and to his children. It is exclusively paedobaptist based on the faith of the parents in faith like Abraham.
Amen
That is Reformed Theology. You can be a Calvinist and hold to credo baptism (believers baptism). Reformed Baptists are credo baptists but are considered by many to not be Reformed partially of this. because of this
@@jburghau The Covenant Promise is that it is not only for the believer, but also for his seed after him .Acts 2
@@jburghau The false credobaptist view of baptism is the same as ALL the cults. Romanists and Orthodox get it all wrong, too. Five points against the Arminian heresy do not make one Reformed. Reformed theology is Covenant Theology that understands that the Covenant extends to one's children which is so CLEARLY reiterated from the OT to the NT in Acts 2. Credobaptists not only dominate the cults, it is clearly a violation of Christ's command to baptize in Matthew 28, i.e. rebellious sin on the level of Moses' rebellion by refusing to apply the sign and seal of the covenant.
@@jburghau Calvin called credobaptists the servants of Satan. Why call yourself after someone who said you were sinful rebel spawns of Satan?
Your definition of omniscience could use refinement. Saying all-knowing doesn’t actually line up with scripture and isn’t consistent with his other capabilities. Most notably his omnipotence.
No, it's because you don't believe in a Sovereign God that does all that he pleases. Psalm 115:3 "But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased"..... The weak beggar god that you believe in doesn't exist. It's simple Will Worshipper...start believing it!
Proverbs 16:1 "The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the Lord."
Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
Proverbs 16:9 "A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps."
@@brianc81 man so angry! And with such a small view of God! Our sovereign God does do all he pleases. And what he pleases to do was to forgive all mankind and give all the ability to repent. What a mighty God! The weak God who can only forgive some isn’t worthy!!
@@TheRomans9Guy Nah, you are just stupid coming in here TROLLING with your Will Worship, free will, God chose everyone NONSENSE!. You don't know God , nor do you know what GOD has declared all throughout his Word. Salvation is not just a possibility, it is a finished work that actually saves his people from their sin. According to your false belief, God can't save anyone unless man let's him. That god doesn't exist. The GOD of the bible, Jesus Christ, accomplished salvation for his elected people and he loses NONE of them. Go take your false beggar god somewhere else.
@@TheRomans9Guy Amen !
Calvinism is a fallacy.
It does not show God's true nature.
@@TheRomans9Guy //the weak God who can only forgive some//
You shouldn’t be comfortable saying things like this! Saying what God can and can’t do is a road I never want to tread I would encourage the same for you. God in His grace has chosen to save some for Himself as His bride. All that the Father gives the Son will come to the Son. What you’re doing is rejecting the biblical God of the Bible. It’s one thing to not be Reformed it’s another to be antagonistic towards Gods sovereign grace.
minute 44 ... I felt sorry for this dude😃😃😃...@ 1:06 he finished without addressing 2nd peter 2 v 1
and for the whole part he was saying we bring our presuppositions into those verses which look like they're against Calvinism !
BROTHER SOLLA SCRIPTURA
God's grace is resistible. We are not God's puppets.
@@markrome9702 we are Satan's puppet till God intervenes!
Yea I know, pride and the law veils thier minds of truth & in turn changes all their motives,, now their self righteousness ends up being just another cloked form of covetousness stemming from their misplaced religious zeal its sick then they get frustrated then start beating their own sheep with law & back loading works into their gospel messages on full assurance teaching Galatian Error & hauling many off as spoil back to works all because of pride in the FLESH😊. SOLA-GRATIA thru SOLA-FIDA Amen😊
Don't engage with a Calvinist on their Calvinism it's like talking to a vegan that's all they want to talk about.
There is a problem here... beginning at 14:45 he says the "Adam and Eve are cursed".
The Bible does not say this. (Genesis 3) God curses the SERPENT! He curses the Ground.
It does NOT say He cursed the humans. There are CHANGES (pain in childbirth, weeds etc) that effect the humans but it does NOT say they are "cursed"!
They brought sin and death into creation, including man's sin nature afterward. Yes, they were cursed.
“History” you mean ignore the first 400 yrs of church history and jump to a gnostic Augustine?
The NT says over 200 times to
“Have faith”
“Believe “
“ Whosoever”
Or the like.
Are you suggesting all that is irrelevant?
According to Calvinism it is. Because those who are not elect have no hope for salvation, will only reject the gospel yet are held accountable for their unbelief.
Why? Because the Bible says?
Nope.
Because Augustine/Calvinism says so
Instantly became skeptical when you said Calvinism vs. Arminianism. Arminias was a Calvinist.
It all stems for isegesis (injecting presumptions into the text.) and strawmanning non-calvinists.
This video seems to do the same thing.
Calvinism is of the devil, so is Arminianism
I'm guessing your free grace thoelogy
@@evanwildermann7034 I don't know. I just looked up free grace theology.
I think people who are saved still sin, but the Bible seems pretty clear that a person who believes will show fruits of the spirit.
I know that I'm not running around judging who is gonna get into the kingdom
@@travissharon1536 fruits of the spirit as defined by Jesus is what comes out of a man's mouth
@@travissharon1536 you can find this in like 12
This very well explains a good tree CANNOT produce bad fruit and vice versa as you cannot confess Christ while also denying him btw this is the same sermon takin from Luke's perspective comparing Matthews to Luke's produced better understanding
I feel sorry for you, just parroting your calvinist teachers
Of course you can choose God or reject God. There would be NO sin if we all chose God. But we don’t always choose God. We chose to sin. Therefore we have free will and NOTHING is predestined.
That's not what the Bible says .It says this Will Worshipper!
Romans 3:10-12 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Romans 8:28-30 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
@@brianc81 Thanks for quoting the usual Calvinist verses that don’t speak about free will or predestination as you understand it. Don’t forget Ephesians 1 and Titus 1. But I will give you a couple of verses to chew on that clearly speaks to free will.
In Jesus own words Mark 8:34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.” What’s the key word? Whoever is the key word
Again in Jesus own words John 7:17 “Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.”
The key word is Anyone!
When the Bible speaks of predestination this is referring to what will happen to those who choose God. Their destiny is predestined based on choosing God. Look at the Old Testament. Every story is about a person or tribe either choosing God or rejecting God. Acceptance brought blessings and mercy. Rejection brought death and suffering.
@@davidkinkaide1467 those verses you quoted says nothing about one’s ability.
@@jasont5300 Sure it does. If you are a Calvinist it prevents you from seeing things clearly because you need syllogistic reasoning for scripture to make sense.
@@davidkinkaide1467 actually, it doesn’t say anything of the sort. Point it out specifically where it says you have that ability in those verses. I’ll wait.
Of course, I can show you specific verses that’s says you don’t have that ability.
At 30:30-31:30... The idea that God would (randomly - with NOTHING that man must do) damn many to hell -he says - "GOES AGAINST HUMAN NATURE" (that, I remind you, God gave to us), does this indicate that OUR nature might be more "just" than God's nature??
God did not give us our human nature sin did this is why Calvinism is fslse
Neither of these fairy story doctrines are valid or scriptural. Predestination as spoken of in scripture only applies to born again Christians. In Christ and only once we are in Christ, we are predestined to be sons and daughters of the living God. Eph 5:5, v0 11 Beneficiaries of His inheritance, v12 Predestined to be to the praise of His glory. Romans 8:29 Predestined to be conformed to the image of His son. We press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God IN CHRIST JESUS
Nothing to do with either of the controversial theories prorogated by people who did not really know God or His Word
I am struggling with all of this. What denomination are you?
Our free will is corrupt
This will be an unpopular comment for you who think Calvinism is a good Gospel alternative, as what Spurgeon once said. Well, let's see, God's will had been discovered by an unrepented killer, to preach that all of us isn't responsible to respond to God's calling, as no one is capable of; and best of all, God so loved the elect only, yet love is forced upon the elects by his great power. No one finds true love in this world that way, and God said many times "You are not willing, not that you can't"
Unconditional election isn’t objectionable to the human mind because our minds don’t work like God’s mind does (“his ways are higher than our ways”) it’s objectionable because it’s ignorant, logically and scripturally. Romans 9 and Ephesians 1, the very passages some think propose unconditional election are so badly eisegeted. These texts are exactly where the apostle Paul was eradicating the Jews’ errant belief of their own teaching of unconditional election.
You don't even believe in the God of the Bible. You want to tell God how he should Act, like the will worshipping Arminian that you are. You believe in a god that can't save anyone unless man let's him or cooperates, then giving sovereignty over to man than the Creator. Romans 9 CLEARLY teaches election and predestination and easily refutes your personal biased heresy and false gospel....Scripture is not on your side! election and predestination is taught al throughout scripture and that Christs atonement for his sheep was an actual finished work.
Awesome!
A lot of false narrative about Pelagius and what happened historically. Disparaging a man through perpetuating false allegations is disingenuous and uncharitable. Do better and study to show yourself approved.
Calvanism is another gospel!
How is it a different gospel?
@@ChrisC-sv3rl the fact that it has its own name should sound the alarm bells
Faith without works is dead.
Faith Alone isn't in the Bible.
Works without faith is useless. You were handcrafted to work. Faith without Love is NOTHING.
Trees without fruit are cast away. You have a role to play in your salvation.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Drunkards, sexually immoral, thieves, greedy, will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.
Paul is talking to believers(SAVED).He says do not be deceived if you return to those types of sins.
Argument Over.
LOL Faith alone is implied all throughout scripture. Trinity is not in the bible either, but it's certainly implied.
Let's look at scripture shall we?
Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast."
Romans 4:2-6 "For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,"
Romans 1:16-17 " For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith"
Either you are just smoking a crack pipe, or you are just being ignorant to scripture.
@@mercibeaucoup2639 It's spelled SAVIOUR goofball! (7 letters, the number of God). You're are right, you serve another jesus and believe in another gospel that can save no-one unless man cooperates and let's him. You worship the will of men, which they are dead in sin, and not the Will of God that has the power to save ALL that were given to him by the father. If you knew scripture, your response should be in agreement with what scripture says in Ephesians and Romans. The just lives by FAITH!
@@mercibeaucoup2639 Right! because you really don't believe God and his Word, that's why you deny John 6:44, Romans 8 and 9. You are just a will worshipper who worships a false christ that only makes salvation possible, but can't save no-one unless man cooperates and let's him. The God of the Bible actually saves his people from their sin, and ALL that were given to Jesus will come, and he loses NONE of them. Seriously, take your false gospel elsewhere!
Ephesians 2:8-10. Faith alone. Look at all verses about how we are saved by Jesus and not the law.
Ephesians 1:11 states, "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh ALL THINGS after the counsel of his own will."
Wow! Falsehood after falsehood. Salvation does not come down to either trusting God or trusting yourself. It comes down to believing in Jesus Christ as your savior from separation from God or believing in the world. God is spirit. The world is flesh. The only flesh we are to trust is that of Christ. Having lived, died and resurrected. Salvation comes from a trust and belief in Christ. Period!
How does one believe in something he thinks is foolish, does not accept the things of the spirit of God and cannot understand them?
@@jasont5300 Why are you commenting in riddles? Write clearly if you want to be understood.
@@davidkinkaide1467 it’s actually a Bible verse and you call it a riddle. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@jasont5300 He's a Will Worshipper...You can't expect much from them considering they deny most of what the Bible teaches. They want it so bad for salvation to be about themselves, and it's a false christ (that can't save anyone) is what they really believe in.
Thats the truth
Calvin and his cohorts were burning people at the stake because they didn't agree with Calvinism. There's a guy who is convinced that nothing can absolve his salvation(including murder). Do not be deceived. You will be judged by your works.
James 2 24
Love is required. Faith Alone is a false interpretation.
We are absolutely not judged by our works and James does not say that we are judged by our works. James says that faith will produce works and, of course, that’s true. He does not say that our salvation is, in any way, based on works. The works doctrine is a disastrous doctrine that takes away God’s providence and Grace and gives it to men. It even pretends that men can possibly do anything worthy of being saved. Flee from the heretical doctrine of works. It is the doctrine that the unrepentant unelected heart believes. That we can come to God by being good enough. We cannot!
@@shawnglass108 James 2:24
ESV
James 2 24 You see that a person is justified by his works, not by faith only.
What does that say sir?
@@shawnglass108 1 Corinthians 6 9-10
Do not be deceived. Drunks, fornicators,greedy, thieves, will no inherit the kingdom of God.
Looks like some works there doesn't it?
@@newhavenfishermen , No..It doesn’t look like works. It looks like a list of sins. Sins that are paid for by the blood of Christ. Do you think Jesus just paid for your sins before you were born again and not the sins you commit after that? Is his blood not enough for those? Or is Gods Grace not big enough? Good luck not being a sinner and trying to working your way into heaven. God said man’s righteousness is filthy rags. I am saved by Grace through Faith alone. My Faith produces good works because true Faith in God has no choice but to produce works. But my works will not save me. Because they cannot save me.
@@shawnglass108 Greetings. If one truly loves God they will keep His commands John 14:15 which is in plural form. It is more than one command. James 2:14 what good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Do you agree with James 2:14? “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” (Philippians 2:12). It’s not up to the Christian Catholics or me, but is up to God who determines if only believing in Him will take you to heaven. James 2:19 “You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder”. I only follow what Holy Scripture instructs me to do. A True Christian will never relinquish the faith and obey God’s commands. My friend, you are entitled to only believe and reject God’s commands. God bless you.
Lier or blind
He is a false teacher. Those who know their bible know he is misleading, you.
Now that you guys have pretty well nailed down this precious doctrine, you need to stop profaning the Lord Sabbath and worshiping the unholy pagan catholic trinity abomination. I realized that this is probably going to fall on deaf ears or incite outrage in most people. I encourage you to withhold judgment and trust and obey God first by examine everything in this most impressive three part RUclips sermon called "unmasking the mark".
1 thess. 5:21
shabbat shalom BTW
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