I hope she has enough money to get her bus back on the road. Looks like it needs a lot of structural repairs to be road worthy. It’s kinda sad that people take advantage of young people who don’t know anything about mechanical stuff. Thank God for honest people like y’all. Thanks for sharing.
This confirms every "Silver Eagles falling apart from rust" horror story I've ever heard. That's the one problem not even the best mechanic in the world can fix. No thanks.
Damn that was scary I didn't realize it takes a while to wind down. Bless her heart it is a neat idea she had. I hope she can get that rot taken care of.
Good thing you still have your cat-like reflexes after all these years. You had that runaway knocked down quick. Then just laughed about it. That was real smooth Scott. Nice job.
gck82s - While you are correct that actually basic steel pieces that make up the chassis and body structure of the bus is box tubing and other easily sourced basic components what you are not taking into consideration is the degree of difficulty, effort, time, and expense it takes to remove whatever needs to be removed so that you can get to rusted frame, suspension, or body structure so that the rusted, rotted, and otherwise compromised steel can be cut back to good solid rust free steel to graft the new replacement steel to and then paint/“rust proof” the repair and original structure of the bus to try to at least slow down the return of the rust and then lastly reassemble what ever was disassembled to make that area of repair. Or go look on bussesforsale dot com and or other bus selling sites I saw a 89 I nice shape for 23,9 of course that is pictures but her bus need well over 25K in rust repair plus whatever other repairs it needs which look extensive
@@gullreefclub This may be a UK USA thing box section is square tube section is round, and yes if you pay someone to do it it's not worth doing but if you do it yourself one piece out, one peice in to minimise stress on the structure as a whole, and work around whats there and jack as needed, get a second hand mig and a grinder it's not hard, fab work is not rocket since after all, it mite cost two grand and take you a mouth to do its all about needs must vs cost and what you can do if you want somthing.
That rust is pretty serious. If that motor ends up being a good strong runner, might be worth swapping it into a cleaner chassis. That rust is a heck of a lot of work.
Well, I’m assuming you continued to work on the motor after seeing all the rot to determine if the engine is good and can be parted out. The entire frame needs a thorough up close and personal inspection to determine if the bus is salvageable. I bought a used Jeep Wrangler and after being assured it was a good car by a mechanic, I found severe rust on the frame just like that bus. So I took it to one of them there Jeep “experts” who told me he’d seen worse and said it could be repaired. AFTER I paid $2g’s for the frame repair he told me I needed a new frame. After! The young lady needs to be told to stop spending money on the bus until she is certain the frame issue can be addressed for something less than the cost of a brand new bus. Otherwise part it out
Of a firm opinion no money should be spent on the mechanical systems of this bus until a through survey inspection of the bus is done and an honest assessment of the cost to make the chassis serviceable and safe, along with brakes, suspension and steering. Let’s face it the engine and transmission are the cheap things to fix on this bus
Anokhi The One I am glad your up for it and want to save it . You will be thrilled when it’s ready to roll. Make sure you update us some way on the progress!! Thanks for the reply Be Safe!!
@@AnokhiTheOne -Friend took welding courses in school. SHE did so well that began working in bronze. Soon bronze art became her passion. Her creations began appearing in local city centers, parks and in front of libraries. Eventually she used her welding skills to restore a few pieces of machinery for others... $. Her welding shop is 'always' busy..$ lol To lower the costs on framework re-structure, may suggest taking course in welding, as a hobby? Every one needs a hobby... :)
I always drive by that bus and I tell my wife and kids I want to buy it. Now seeing all that rust, never mind. But good luck to the young lady on that project.
@@wernerdanler2742 Road salts, salty air, electrolysis??? Heck who knows? But it looks boogered-up pretty bad. If you were a millionaire that might be kind of a platform you can work with but she don't look like no millionaire. not yet anyway. She gets a couple hit songs out she will be.
It's so lovely you're helping her. The other guys sure did a good job of jerry-rigging it together... Looked to me that they wanted to sabotage her with a runnaway. The rust on her looks like a hard fix... 🤔
No blaming the owner nor the mechanic, it happens. Great attitude on your part. Possibly create a questionnaire for your clients to fill out. It takes the pressure off them to answer questions on the spot. Also helps you get a better assessment.
I understand this would devastating for this young lady to hear but someone needs to tell her that this bus is not worth fixing du to all of the rust, corrosion and general rotten state of the steel in this bus. I think Eagles are neat looking and interesting motor coaches unfortunately they were made like Pop music and not meant to last like classics such as Silversides or MCI’s. I don’t know if KT3406E still has that bus he has been torturing but the last video I saw of it the bus while in need of a paint job and probably the interior redone looked straight and the engine was certainly strong because even that idiot could not blow it up so IMO she would be much better off if she had the money to buy a bus like that which is running and drivable that spend another nickel on this bus which should be sold for parts and then whats left scraped. I have restored more than one rust bucket and despite all the hard work and no matter how careful you are if vehicle is driven in any sort of weather agin the rust will come back again normally with a vengeance.
For all the people who don't know the term "runaway" means .,explode in a spectacular fashion if you can't get it under control in a matter of seconds! Fortunately you new exactly what to do to "try" & stop it, & didn't loose your cool..!
That girl is blessed she found Scott. I feel Scott is a very knowledgeable and honest mechanic. I love his videos. I wish i had all the knowledge he has to work on those motors.
That reminds me the of the Eagle in Fort Myers Beach (when I met you). She has a good idea. I think she needs sponsors or a benefactor so she can get that coach fit to travel. Going to need a specialist to get that rust out.
I bet that v8 will run 120mph flat out. Wow it rev’ed up really fast! Now I know how fast you can really move 😜! I would have had to change my shorts. Another good save, good job too!
Every one need pro like Scott too fix there bus and making sure its fixed correctly. Amber you found the right person too fix your bus. GOOD LUCK in your adventure's .
As much as I love 2 stroke DD if I were in the position to buy a bus I would rather have a 4-Stoke Detroit because I predict state of fruit and nuts will find a way to ban them in the state and if not the state cities will ban them like what is happening in Europe with Diesel cars over 10 years old. Personally I think such ordnances and laws are outright class discrimination but the politicians and greens don’t care about that because they can afford new cars were as the working stiff very often cannot.
Every drive a 60 series detriot? Bettar in almost every way to a 2 stroke detriot. With the exception of simplicity, I would never take a 2 stroke detriot to a 60 series. As for easy to work on the 60 series is about as simple as an electronic engine can get. Way better on power to. Just so were clear Im talking pre 2003 60 series.
@@kevinoscarson2941 Truth! 2 strokes are fine engines that still get the job done, but a pre EGR series 60 is the best engine out there for a bus. Pair it with an Allison B500 and you've got the best combo going.
Hate it when bad people take advantage of young women. She's got the drive to succeed, she just needed the right people. Now she has Scott on the case.
I can admire this young lady's moxie, and can understand her intentions....but this is a classic example of getting in over one's head. Not a knock on her at all, but this is where having someone knowledgeable about vintage buses such as Scott could've saved her a LOT of money by steering her clear of this. Be that as it may, at least she has guidance from someone who will be on the level as to what she is facing. Enjoyed the video, and best of luck!
Great save Scott! She is one brave person to take on that beast. Does she have a youtube channel? How can we follow her to watch her adventures? thank you
A year later and not a single video about the bus, but there are two videos about the snow in Texas being from chemtrails. Gonna be a hard pass from me.
N V Thank you the motivation to get this bus going has actually pushed me to start businesses and get a better understanding of money so I can finish it so it’s actually made me richer 🤗
G’day Scott you know I really admire you there’s not a lot of people (technicians) that would be as honest as you, and the same goes for Tyler. I was never really interested in buses, and I suspect you’ve heard that before, but it’s very true it’s fascinating watching how you go about Diag nosing an engine ect like this girls bus. God bless you and your family and I always look forward to your next vlog kind regards John Kinnane Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺
Amber didn't have mechanics helping :( she had thieves taking advantage of her Good soul. Let me charge your Good batteries, then give you some cores that were turned in ...smh
It will be a money pit, but that doesn't mean it should be scrapped. Just needs to be owned by someone with the time and money to make it nice again. I personally have never seen so much rot in a vehicle before. I personally wouldn't buy this bus, it's not a desirable enough design and style for me to put the money it needs into it.
She seems like a nice young lady, but I doubt she has the financial resources to get that bus restored safe enough to drive. She would probably do better to part it out and scrap the rest of it. At least she can recoupe her money. I’m sure with your contacts, you could find something better suited to her needs.
Good reaction time! I don’t think it actually revved that high. It’s a bit scary though when the fuel is cut off and it keeps running. That’s when you think, oh no is is running on the lube oil?
Yeah true runaways are truly scary. Because the limit to their rpms doesn't rely on a governed source of fuel. When running off of oil they will run well over 5000rpm and shooting flames and bellowing soot in the sky. The detroits actually used to sometimes run off of oil leaking past the sloppy pistons and rings and the hotter they got the thinner the oil so they would scream until they go boom. And of course oil getting into their intake tract from seals is typically how it happens. Or some of the mechanical injection pumps could actually be turned up too much that it overrides the governor spring. I've experienced that one myself haha
The rust can be fixed . Good to see a vehicle with a history in the same area as the owner is being saved. Wish her all the best from the UK, it sounds as id she has gone through the huge learning curve of vintage vehicles and has a vehicle she loves. Dont forget thought it will be a permanent project of love.
Now I'll finish what I wanted to say from yesterday, electronic issues 🙄 but any way that poor old unit needs a hell of a lot of TLC can only imagine the condition of the suspension ,if the rust you're showing on this thing the bottom " has " to be in bad way ,hope this young women has deep pockets,to get road Worthy,again ,yes I know from what you all put on here mechanical you can get it running ,but that chassis 🤔🤔good luck to all involved 🤗✌🖖
The cost of rust repair to make the bus safe might easily add up to more than a good driveable bus could be purchased. A very careful evaluation should be the first priority before any repairs are attempted.....good luck with this one
It seems like it isn't in that bad 'o' shape. Poor gal. I hope things go better. Well, they WILL got better with you laying hands on the motor. Bless you Scott and family.
Amber is a light in the dark tunnel for people who have dreams..hard work and effort..nothing is given, but the Day we have..Great video..hope to see more of Her and Her dream..
I could be wrong but I saw $10k in rust repair from just the bits you showed. Hidden is probably double that. I hope she knows what's she's getting into.
Im all for the enthusiasm and one to chase ones dreams and your a salt of the earth dude to help her. Perhaps im wrong but maybe shes a bit over her head on that tired old bus. That bus would be a monstrous project to make safe & roadworthy for an experienced mechanic/fabricator/welder that has lots of time and pretty deep pockets. That poor old Eagle is tired and they can't soar forever, gotta land sometime. Lot of major structural rot in that old bird and how bad are tge areas you cant see? Like inside beams and box sections. She would be far better and safer off with a more structurally sound bus. A retired school bus would be a good option.
Pope Scott will lay his healing hands on this ailing Eagle and it will soar once again. True, with all the rust issues, it may take some time. But the rewards will be immense. There is still plenty to save.
i would probably make an "pre repair interview" checklist with these 5 items on it: 1) does the bus currently run? 2) if the answer to question 1 is NO, ask when the last time it was run 3) ask them if the engine was doing anything strange when it last ran (hunting idle, Start/Stall, attempted runaway, no throttle response, etc) 4) ask if any previous mechanics or "scam mechanics" have worked on this bus before you did 5)if the answer to question 4 was YES; ask the customer to point out everything those previous mechanics or scam mechanics have done and determine how far they deviated from the stock configuration
I am very glad she now has a qualified, ethical, and moral mechanic. I hope her cousin has the time and commitment to fix the deterioration and she has the money to cover it. I hope this works for her. Eagles always seemed to me to be the more comfortable bus than the GM's. Apparently they do not age well. Sad. Sorry to be long winded. There are several types of run-away. Scott, could you discuss some of the issues in tomorrow's video? For the reasons stated at the beginning of the video the engine had a fuel starvation problem and probably could not totally run-away (hind-sight analysis). An engine unexpectedly gaining rpm can be scary because your are trying to think what is happening, think of the reasons for the run-away and how to stop it as the engine is picking up rpm. Stuck injector. sucking engine oil through a seal or seals, transmission and power steering fluids being sprayed, propane leak if you have that feature (Lenny has that feature if I recall correctly), turbo charger leaking engine oil and feeding the engine are possible reasons for a run-away. There is a difference between an engine racing to high idle (stuck injector - 2400 rpm plus) and a run-away past 5000 rpm and going higher because it is sucking volatile fluids through the blower. There can be more than 10 gallons of combustible engine oil just waiting for the opportunity to be sucked through a seal in the blower. A true run-away can suck the emergency shut-off flapper (some are a piece of sheet metal) right into the blower. This sheet metal assists the engine to begin the self destruction process. It messes with the blower internal clearances. Several things can limit the extent of the injector run-away situation. There is a limit on the amount of fuel an N65 injector can push out. Or any other injector (N45, to N110) for that matter. The DD injector is a mechanical injector. No electronics to mess with things. So there is a limit to how fast the injector can function. Remember how easily Scott "shorts" out an injector with just a screwdriver pushing the injector follower down. The follower spring is not that strong so it floats easily. Scott is floating the injector. There is a limit to how fast the exhaust valves can function as well. Springs have a rate of return. So if the engine is spinning faster than the springs can return then the valves will float limiting the engines ability to function. Valve float has long been a problem in race car engines since the days of Ray Harroun and Barney Oldfield (Indy 500 in 1911) and before that. My recollection is that the DD injector barrel also has a relief cut into the body just past the full fuel position to dump the fuel if the injector control rack plunger goes past full fuel. If a quality injector rebuild shop rebuilds the injector they test the injector to make sure the relief works properly to prevent the run-away. Of course there are always exceptions that get through the Quality Control process or time and gunk mess with the injector.
That bus is a rust bucket. It's too bad she didn't have a person like Scott go with her when she went to purchase the bus. Someone who knows about these buses could've looked it over good and told her not to purchase it. I wish she would've bought a newer, better condition bus to make her plans come to life with. Good luck young lady I sincerely hope you get it done.
I hope she has enough money to get her bus back on the road. Looks like it needs a lot of structural repairs to be road worthy. It’s kinda sad that people take advantage of young people who don’t know anything about mechanical stuff. Thank God for honest people like y’all. Thanks for sharing.
Whoever sold her that rust-bucket should be ashamed of themselves
mixrmandd lol so if I buy crack it was the dealers fault.
@@allenseferagic9426 wtf does crack have to with anything lol the analogy is way off. Really can't compare the two situations rofl
@@electronJarvs they're saying the buyer should've known better than to buy a rust pile without knowing what it's worth.
There’s a Sucker Born every minute..🤷🏻♂️
Caveat emptor
This confirms every "Silver Eagles falling apart from rust" horror story I've ever heard. That's the one problem not even the best mechanic in the world can fix. No thanks.
You know its nice to watch a person who knows
what he's doing real nice.
That moment when the "check underwear" light comes on.... lol
That should be a light on every vehicle
I’m sick of the check wallet light
That's when that P factor comes in! 😄
Thanks a lot, man now I've got to clean up my keyboard, and monitor I sprayed coffee all over the place.
theres a ck underwear light? damn, missed that
@@tommyeugene yeah check underwear light. also called a deuce light
Damn that was scary I didn't realize it takes a while to wind down. Bless her heart it is a neat idea she had. I hope she can get that rot taken care of.
Eric Corse I will 🙏🏾
@@AnokhiTheOne Never give up on your dreams, keep pursuing them. Don't let these commenters dissuade you ; you can do it Cheers.
Good thing you still have your cat-like reflexes after all these years. You had that runaway knocked down quick. Then just laughed about it. That was real smooth Scott. Nice job.
Boat Owner Yep I probably should’ve told him about that part 😂😂
As a (now ex) diesel mechanic I felt every single nano second of what you felt when that engine lit up and started to run away.....
New standard question after "when is the last time it ran?" "Did it throttle up and down normally?" I'm glad she found you Scott.
Thank God for Scott
Better start a go fund me account for her.
Maybe set her up on a payment plan.
I have a strong feeling this bus will never run the highways again. Sad, but so much rust and the price to fix will never be justified
She's made it this far - maybe she learns how to fab metal... she seems pretty determined 🤞👍
A millionaire boy friend 😉😎👍
Most of it is just box section easy mig job just cut weld repeat
gck82s - While you are correct that actually basic steel pieces that make up the chassis and body structure of the bus is box tubing and other easily sourced basic components what you are not taking into consideration is the degree of difficulty, effort, time, and expense it takes to remove whatever needs to be removed so that you can get to rusted frame, suspension, or body structure so that the rusted, rotted, and otherwise compromised steel can be cut back to good solid rust free steel to graft the new replacement steel to and then paint/“rust proof” the repair and original structure of the bus to try to at least slow down the return of the rust and then lastly reassemble what ever was disassembled to make that area of repair. Or go look on bussesforsale dot com and or other bus selling sites I saw a 89 I nice shape for 23,9 of course that is pictures but her bus need well over 25K in rust repair plus whatever other repairs it needs which look extensive
@@gullreefclub This may be a UK USA thing box section is square tube section is round, and yes if you pay someone to do it it's not worth doing but if you do it yourself one piece out, one peice in to minimise stress on the structure as a whole, and work around whats there and jack as needed, get a second hand mig and a grinder it's not hard, fab work is not rocket since after all, it mite cost two grand and take you a mouth to do its all about needs must vs cost and what you can do if you want somthing.
Your helper looked like he was exiting stage right pronto when the engine tried to run away ! He looked skeered ! LOL 😂
M R Smith He ran to move his car with his kids in it 😂😂
That rust is pretty serious. If that motor ends up being a good strong runner, might be worth swapping it into a cleaner chassis. That rust is a heck of a lot of work.
Manihot Esculenta .....they do great work with what they have.
That poor little lady has rust bucket on her hands. I see a money pit.
Better off as Yard Art
A total money pit that would be better off being turned into razor blades and beer cans
@@thewiseguy3529 maybe once, possibly, probably not.
8:54 is when the shit hit the fan. Glad you knew what to do and catastrophe was averted.
Oh and I guess it runs. Grin
wi11y1960 Yep it runs like a champ now thanks to Scott 🤗
I think the engine is worth more than the bus itself, look at that rust!
And the engines aren't worth their price in scrap either haha
Never pass DOT inspection. Give it up and don’t throw good money after bad.
Even if all the rust you can see is repaired, what about the rust that is hidden ?
You need to be upfront with her about the rust in this bus, just the camera footage you showed tells me this bus is a goner.
Scott, simply put you pucker with class... Impressive young lady I hope she can get the bus on the road with your help.
James Whittington Thank you ☺️ The journey continues!!
@@AnokhiTheOne I look forward to seeing the journey unfold..
I hope you can stay long enough to help her get this under control. Pulling for her to make this all work.
Great job helping her out.
Awesome young woman. I was sad to see all that rust though. I hope she is able to continue with the project and see it through.
Smurphenstein Thank you 🙏🏾 That’s the goal! The journey continues! 🤗
Wishing her all the best and luck 🍀 with her dreams.
L P Thank you 🙏🏾 ☺️
Well, I’m assuming you continued to work on the motor after seeing all the rot to determine if the engine is good and can be parted out. The entire frame needs a thorough up close and personal inspection to determine if the bus is salvageable. I bought a used Jeep Wrangler and after being assured it was a good car by a mechanic, I found severe rust on the frame just like that bus. So I took it to one of them there Jeep “experts” who told me he’d seen worse and said it could be repaired. AFTER I paid $2g’s for the frame repair he told me I needed a new frame. After! The young lady needs to be told to stop spending money on the bus until she is certain the frame issue can be addressed for something less than the cost of a brand new bus. Otherwise part it out
Of a firm opinion no money should be spent on the mechanical systems of this bus until a through survey inspection of the bus is done and an honest assessment of the cost to make the chassis serviceable and safe, along with brakes, suspension and steering. Let’s face it the engine and transmission are the cheap things to fix on this bus
Watching this from the UK. You are in very good hands judging by past videos. I wish you huge luck in your venture. Cheers, Bob
I'm so glad that you didn't let it self destruct.
Scott,
Good for you to help her out . I’m sure she will be disappointed to hear all the bad going on with that Eagle.
Jay
Jay Montgomery I’ve had it for 5 years so this news is not new. I’m up for it! 💪🏾
Anokhi The One I am glad your up for it and want to save it . You will be thrilled when it’s ready to roll. Make sure you update us some way on the progress!!
Thanks for the reply Be Safe!!
@@AnokhiTheOne -Friend took welding courses in school. SHE did so well that began working in bronze. Soon bronze art became her passion. Her creations began appearing in local city centers, parks and in front of libraries. Eventually she used her welding skills to restore a few pieces of machinery for others... $. Her welding shop is 'always' busy..$ lol
To lower the costs on framework re-structure, may suggest taking course in welding, as a hobby? Every one needs a hobby... :)
Would drastically reduce the costs of welding in replacement sections, by doing the work yourself?
This channel is very much worth the time spent in watching. I learn something new in every video. ✌
Unplanned excitement awakens the inner spirit affirming that you are truly alive.
You moved so fast when it started😂😂😂
You are all artists! I bet you'll have some great conversations with her.... shop talk! WillyB
I always drive by that bus and I tell my wife and kids I want to buy it. Now seeing all that rust, never mind. But good luck to the young lady on that project.
Get it running sell for parts. She's in over her head. Too much rot
That's her decision to make.
Paul Grae maybe she got the money to repair. Knowing her story of the history of this bus.👍🏻
Yeah that thing looks way too rotted.
When I see Scott work on much, much older buses with no rot I cannot understand how this one is so bad.
@@wernerdanler2742 Road salts, salty air, electrolysis??? Heck who knows? But it looks boogered-up pretty bad.
If you were a millionaire that might be kind of a platform you can work with but she don't look like no millionaire. not yet anyway.
She gets a couple hit songs out she will be.
This poor bus has seen better days such a shame. Great video keep them coming.
It's so lovely you're helping her. The other guys sure did a good job of jerry-rigging it together... Looked to me that they wanted to sabotage her with a runnaway. The rust on her looks like a hard fix... 🤔
Isnt it amazing how some poeple take advantage of others, and in this
case just out and out stealing from her. What a shame.
Yep it has happened on several occasions thankfully now I have good people like Scott working with me!
I know a Marvin Snyder.
Trucking company past years in Florida
Great man
A hell of a lot of work ,what you-all have showed bet the suspension attachment points are in serious
That kid does the best sound effect of an engine starting that I've ever heard.
No blaming the owner nor the mechanic, it happens. Great attitude on your part. Possibly create a questionnaire for your clients to fill out. It takes the pressure off them to answer questions on the spot. Also helps you get a better assessment.
Crazy! I've had them runaway while driving and that's not fun either!
I understand this would devastating for this young lady to hear but someone needs to tell her that this bus is not worth fixing du to all of the rust, corrosion and general rotten state of the steel in this bus. I think Eagles are neat looking and interesting motor coaches unfortunately they were made like Pop music and not meant to last like classics such as Silversides or MCI’s. I don’t know if KT3406E still has that bus he has been torturing but the last video I saw of it the bus while in need of a paint job and probably the interior redone looked straight and the engine was certainly strong because even that idiot could not blow it up so IMO she would be much better off if she had the money to buy a bus like that which is running and drivable that spend another nickel on this bus which should be sold for parts and then whats left scraped. I have restored more than one rust bucket and despite all the hard work and no matter how careful you are if vehicle is driven in any sort of weather agin the rust will come back again normally with a vengeance.
That bus is in the junk yard right now in pieces.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s He ran it into a tree.
I saw what he did to that bus and it was painful to watch.. he should’ve sold it as parts or a fixer upper
For all the people who don't know the term "runaway" means .,explode in a spectacular fashion if you can't get it under control in a matter of seconds! Fortunately you new exactly what to do to "try" & stop it, & didn't loose your cool..!
I swear it's the same two people who thumbs down these videos every day. Y'all are just jealous you cant have a bus.
That girl is blessed she found Scott. I feel Scott is a very knowledgeable and honest mechanic. I love his videos. I wish i had all the knowledge he has to work on those motors.
Wow thats the first runaway bus i have seen up that close. Great work.
Amber great to see someone come to the rescue. A very talented person , in this area, is what you needed. He does a great job.
Nice save there... almost crapped my pants for you.
That reminds me the of the Eagle in Fort Myers Beach (when I met you). She has a good idea. I think she needs sponsors or a benefactor so she can get that coach fit to travel. Going to need a specialist to get that rust out.
Wow this young lady is going to live her dream!
Don Hawley Thank you so much! I’m on the journey 🤗
I think that Bus is too far gone to be safe, it would take deep pockets and time to bring it back to life.
Glad you are around to see these wonderful old V 71's going. Fantastic engine's and not too many gurus like you to work on them.
I bet that v8 will run 120mph flat out. Wow it rev’ed up really fast! Now I know how fast you can really move 😜! I would have had to change my shorts. Another good save, good job too!
That lady is in good hands with you on the job my friend
Every one need pro like Scott too fix there bus and making sure its fixed correctly. Amber you found the right person too fix your bus. GOOD LUCK in your adventure's .
Man, Step 1 is always “disregard everyone else’s diagnosis. Trust, but verify.” Glad you got it shut down before Bad Stuff happened.
Seeing that rust makes me glad I bought an almost 30 year newer MCI, no 2 stroke though :(
As much as I love 2 stroke DD if I were in the position to buy a bus I would rather have a 4-Stoke Detroit because I predict state of fruit and nuts will find a way to ban them in the state and if not the state cities will ban them like what is happening in Europe with Diesel cars over 10 years old. Personally I think such ordnances and laws are outright class discrimination but the politicians and greens don’t care about that because they can afford new cars were as the working stiff very often cannot.
Every drive a 60 series detriot? Bettar in almost every way to a 2 stroke detriot. With the exception of simplicity, I would never take a 2 stroke detriot to a 60 series. As for easy to work on the 60 series is about as simple as an electronic engine can get. Way better on power to. Just so were clear Im talking pre 2003 60 series.
@@kevinoscarson2941 Truth! 2 strokes are fine engines that still get the job done, but a pre EGR series 60 is the best engine out there for a bus. Pair it with an Allison B500 and you've got the best combo going.
I bought an 1998 103-D3 with a 60 series and handicap lift
Hey great vids. Please pull the strings out of your hoodies.......one of those gets grabbed by a running engine.....it's no fun....
Look in the engine bay and I'm seeing some rust and immediately start chanting "rust inspection" and oh my, it's sure an Eagle.
a detriot mechanic told me that engines dont run away cowards do
Hate it when bad people take advantage of young women. She's got the drive to succeed, she just needed the right people. Now she has Scott on the case.
J Yes that’s the biggest thing I’ve been missing I’ve definitely grown a lot in the process so to me the journey has already been worth it!
I can admire this young lady's moxie, and can understand her intentions....but this is a classic example of getting in over one's head. Not a knock on her at all, but this is where having someone knowledgeable about vintage buses such as Scott could've saved her a LOT of money by steering her clear of this. Be that as it may, at least she has guidance from someone who will be on the level as to what she is facing. Enjoyed the video, and best of luck!
Wow Scott welcome to the wake your ass up Club I don't think any of us were expecting it to start running away.
Well done buddy you were moving man.
Great save Scott! She is one brave person to take on that beast. Does she have a youtube channel? How can we follow her to watch her adventures? thank you
roxborotomm You can click on my picture I’ll be posting updates as well as all the drama behind the scenes lol
@@AnokhiTheOne thanks.. just subscribed.
A year later and not a single video about the bus, but there are two videos about the snow in Texas being from chemtrails. Gonna be a hard pass from me.
@@SaginawCareerComplex or even any videos on music production, wow, I hope she didn’t give up on her dreams
Glad you came and saved her. Cant wait too see whats next
☺️ Thank you I can’t wait either!
That was scary. Sure glad you survived!
Good to see this motivated young lady but I fear that bus will bankrupt her.
N V Thank you the motivation to get this bus going has actually pushed me to start businesses and get a better understanding of money so I can finish it so it’s actually made me richer 🤗
Well said.
I wish you the best and hope to see your progress videos
G’day Scott you know I really admire you there’s not a lot of people (technicians) that would be as honest as you, and the same goes for Tyler. I was never really interested in buses, and I suspect you’ve heard that before, but it’s very true it’s fascinating watching how you go about Diag nosing an engine ect like this girls bus. God bless you and your family and I always look forward to your next vlog kind regards John Kinnane Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺
Ok that was Scott at high speed. His governor appears to be set at 3800 rpm...nice job catching it Scott.
All that rust worries me.
its more rust than eagle
Seeing a run away or near run away always gets my adrenaline pumping. I'm not even there!
Looks like a good parts bus sad she got take from the start
Amber didn't have mechanics helping :( she had thieves taking advantage of her Good soul. Let me charge your Good batteries, then give you some cores that were turned in ...smh
Dan SKi Yep smh but my mom made talked so him so he just might be getting me two brand new batteries on Wednesday 😭
@@AnokhiTheOne Empathy is a blessing & a curse, love your positive outlook..
That looks like a money pit, I would say swap the motor into a nicer bus or sell for parts.
Xmc X No thanks!
It will be a money pit, but that doesn't mean it should be scrapped. Just needs to be owned by someone with the time and money to make it nice again. I personally have never seen so much rot in a vehicle before. I personally wouldn't buy this bus, it's not a desirable enough design and style for me to put the money it needs into it.
She seems like a nice young lady, but I doubt she has the financial resources to get that bus restored safe enough to drive.
She would probably do better to part it out and scrap the rest of it. At least she can recoupe her money. I’m sure with your contacts, you could find something better suited to her needs.
Something a little smaller and in better shape would be better. This ones too big n rusty
Yikes! Let us know your current location and we'll get some new shorts coming your way in the mail...
Good reaction time! I don’t think it actually revved that high. It’s a bit scary though when the fuel is cut off and it keeps running. That’s when you think, oh no is is running on the lube oil?
Yeah true runaways are truly scary. Because the limit to their rpms doesn't rely on a governed source of fuel. When running off of oil they will run well over 5000rpm and shooting flames and bellowing soot in the sky. The detroits actually used to sometimes run off of oil leaking past the sloppy pistons and rings and the hotter they got the thinner the oil so they would scream until they go boom. And of course oil getting into their intake tract from seals is typically how it happens. Or some of the mechanical injection pumps could actually be turned up too much that it overrides the governor spring. I've experienced that one myself haha
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The rust can be fixed . Good to see a vehicle with a history in the same area as the owner is being saved. Wish her all the best from the UK, it sounds as id she has gone through the huge learning curve of vintage vehicles and has a vehicle she loves. Dont forget thought it will be a permanent project of love.
Hands on Yes it is definitely a labor of love because if I were doing it for money or instant gratification I would’ve given up a long time ago.
amber, be proud of yourself, and thank god your found Scott, he's a master at what he does
Now I'll finish what I wanted to say from yesterday, electronic issues 🙄 but any way that poor old unit needs a hell of a lot of TLC can only imagine the condition of the suspension ,if the rust you're showing on this thing the bottom " has " to be in bad way ,hope this young women has deep pockets,to get road Worthy,again ,yes I know from what you all put on here mechanical you can get it running ,but that chassis 🤔🤔good luck to all involved 🤗✌🖖
The cost of rust repair to make the bus safe might easily add up to more than a good driveable bus could be purchased. A very careful evaluation should be the first priority before any repairs are attempted.....good luck with this one
NICE save Scott love watching your videos
It seems like it isn't in that bad 'o' shape. Poor gal. I hope things go better. Well, they WILL got better with you laying hands on the motor. Bless you Scott and family.
This should be a great series
Gary Cumming That’s the plan and I’m here for it!! Lol This bus journey has been a long one!
Amber is a light in the dark tunnel for people who have dreams..hard work and effort..nothing is given, but the Day we have..Great video..hope to see more of Her and Her dream..
I could be wrong but I saw $10k in rust repair from just the bits you showed. Hidden is probably double that. I hope she knows what's she's getting into.
Do RC Yes I know what I’m getting into. My cousin and aunt are welders and I will become a welder if I have to. 💪🏾
@@AnokhiTheOne aha. Ok. That makes more sense. I was just worried about that thing becoming a money pit. There's a whole lot of work to be done.
Best wishes to Amber- she has a vision, a goal. Hope she gets it where she wants & needs it to be or gets a better candidate to work with
olikat8 Thank you Thats the goal ☺️
After crap like that happens then you get more details or as Paul Harvey said "The rest of the story".
Im all for the enthusiasm and one to chase ones dreams and your a salt of the earth dude to help her. Perhaps im wrong but maybe shes a bit over her head on that tired old bus. That bus would be a monstrous project to make safe & roadworthy for an experienced mechanic/fabricator/welder that has lots of time and pretty deep pockets. That poor old Eagle is tired and they can't soar forever, gotta land sometime. Lot of major structural rot in that old bird and how bad are tge areas you cant see? Like inside beams and box sections. She would be far better and safer off with a more structurally sound bus. A retired school bus would be a good option.
Looks like scott is going to pop those valve covers off more frequently from now on regardless of what the owners say.
Shut her down quick brother, imagine if that thing popped into gear holy cow.. excellent work !
Pope Scott will lay his healing hands on this ailing Eagle and it will soar once again. True, with all the rust issues, it may take some time. But the rewards will be immense. There is still plenty to save.
Philip Muth WØRHP 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾 I receive it lol I believe so too and I plan to keep working until it’s fixed!
Awesome job not panicking. Most people would’ve took off running for the hills.
The one guy did 🏃
That was an amazing video Scott !!! It is called trust buy verify... :) lol
That big smile when the engine was trying to run away.
That was the oh shit look.
i would probably make an "pre repair interview" checklist with these 5 items on it:
1) does the bus currently run?
2) if the answer to question 1 is NO, ask when the last time it was run
3) ask them if the engine was doing anything strange when it last ran (hunting idle, Start/Stall, attempted runaway, no throttle response, etc)
4) ask if any previous mechanics or "scam mechanics" have worked on this bus before you did
5)if the answer to question 4 was YES; ask the customer to point out everything those previous mechanics or scam mechanics have done and determine how far they deviated from the stock configuration
Darn good thing it had an electric fuel pump otherwise you may have lost it !
I loved those Eagle buses growing up in the 70's
Brown alert moment right there if I ever saw one! Nice save and good to crack the fuel filter open. Well done Scott.
I am very glad she now has a qualified, ethical, and moral mechanic. I hope her cousin has the time and commitment to fix the deterioration and she has the money to cover it. I hope this works for her. Eagles always seemed to me to be the more comfortable bus than the GM's. Apparently they do not age well. Sad.
Sorry to be long winded. There are several types of run-away. Scott, could you discuss some of the issues in tomorrow's video?
For the reasons stated at the beginning of the video the engine had a fuel starvation problem and probably could not totally run-away (hind-sight analysis). An engine unexpectedly gaining rpm can be scary because your are trying to think what is happening, think of the reasons for the run-away and how to stop it as the engine is picking up rpm. Stuck injector. sucking engine oil through a seal or seals, transmission and power steering fluids being sprayed, propane leak if you have that feature (Lenny has that feature if I recall correctly), turbo charger leaking engine oil and feeding the engine are possible reasons for a run-away. There is a difference between an engine racing to high idle (stuck injector - 2400 rpm plus) and a run-away past 5000 rpm and going higher because it is sucking volatile fluids through the blower. There can be more than 10 gallons of combustible engine oil just waiting for the opportunity to be sucked through a seal in the blower. A true run-away can suck the emergency shut-off flapper (some are a piece of sheet metal) right into the blower. This sheet metal assists the engine to begin the self destruction process. It messes with the blower internal clearances.
Several things can limit the extent of the injector run-away situation. There is a limit on the amount of fuel an N65 injector can push out. Or any other injector (N45, to N110) for that matter. The DD injector is a mechanical injector. No electronics to mess with things. So there is a limit to how fast the injector can function. Remember how easily Scott "shorts" out an injector with just a screwdriver pushing the injector follower down. The follower spring is not that strong so it floats easily. Scott is floating the injector. There is a limit to how fast the exhaust valves can function as well. Springs have a rate of return. So if the engine is spinning faster than the springs can return then the valves will float limiting the engines ability to function. Valve float has long been a problem in race car engines since the days of Ray Harroun and Barney Oldfield (Indy 500 in 1911) and before that.
My recollection is that the DD injector barrel also has a relief cut into the body just past the full fuel position to dump the fuel if the injector control rack plunger goes past full fuel. If a quality injector rebuild shop rebuilds the injector they test the injector to make sure the relief works properly to prevent the run-away. Of course there are always exceptions that get through the Quality Control process or time and gunk mess with the injector.
That bus is a rust bucket. It's too bad she didn't have a person like Scott go with her when she went to purchase the bus. Someone who knows about these buses could've looked it over good and told her not to purchase it. I wish she would've bought a newer, better condition bus to make her plans come to life with. Good luck young lady I sincerely hope you get it done.
Great save Scott!
Never let the customer start talking
Had same issues with that engine in a Lance missile carrier 😂😂 based on the m113 chassi and the Detroit 6v71 Engine, had to replace my underwear