I bought my XPS 15 9560 (1TB, 32GB RAM, 4K screen) 3 months ago and it's been a dream! I've never liked laptops until now. I do the bulk of my editing on a custom PC build or a 2014 iMac, but I really enjoy using the XPS for several small edits and tasks like transferring & archiving files. I haven't had any internet issues, but I'm probably never as far away from my home router as you might be. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!
I bought the fully specced out version with 4K display and I havent had any issue with it at all. I love this laptop actually. Premiere pro, photoshop and lightroom flies with it.
what are your specific settings? I've heard a great number of people having slow performance (photos would lag loading in lightroom, for example, or stuttering 1:1 premiere playback). and I think it's about the 4K (8.3 millions of pixels to refresh 60 times a second). anyone a feedback / video reply ?
For a 4K 1:1 preview the recommended video card in sites like Puget Systems is Geforece 1070 (1920 Cuda cores) or Quadro P4000 (1792 Cude cores). The XPS 15 has only GTX 1050 (768 Cuda cores). I think it's unrealistic to expect a GTX 1050 card would play 1:1 preview in Premiere.
Hey, to speed up lightroom, right click the lightroom and select Properties then click the Compatibility tab. Under "Settings," check the Override high DPI scaling behavior option. Under "Scaling performed by" drop-down menu, select System. Select OK and you're good to go. Windows does a better job scaling apps to 4k than the apps themselves. This can be resolved by Adobe but I guess not enough people have the problem to warrant the time and resources it will take to fix it. This also resolves some slow downs I was having with premiere pro as well. Re not being able to playback at full in premiere with 4k content, something is definitely wrong as I had no issue doing that even with a lut and color adjustments running on the clips. Are you using powersave mode in windows by any chance? And are you using the latest nvidia drivers? It sounds like the nvidia card isn't engaging.
from a photographer's perspective there are a few problems with that solution, the main two being: 1) the text gets blurry 2) the image is less sharp. I think it's windows doing a bitmap scaling of the image and text, which basically means it interpolates the pixels. No one can evaluate sharpening, for example, if the image is being interpolated. I'm not sure of this is true but no one seems to address the specific problem from a photographer/videomaker point of view. anyone, a feedback?
This really is not a good enough solution as it essentially renders the fact of having such a high quality 4k panel - pointless. The software just ends up running at 1080p (if that) and everything looks terribly blurry. Returning my XPS 15 for a macbook pro which can atleast run lightroom without shitting itself.
I purchased this laptop from Costco 4GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Graphics 15.6" Touchscreen InfinityEdge 4K Ultra HD (3840 x 2160) Display 32GB RAM 1TB PCIe Solid State Drive Killer 1535 Dual Band Wireless-AC WLAN + Bluetooth 4.1 I bought a 32" ultra wide 4K monitor and a thunderbolt dock and this combo is killer! I looked at the specs via the link you provided and I think your bottle neck is the 512GB SSD hard drive. With the PCIe hard drive, I am not having any lag. Also, my router is on the first floor and I am using the laptop upstairs. I use a channel that none of my neighbors are using (they all use the default channel 11). So that helps.... the only issue I have had is with the Dell Premier Color. With latest Windows Update, the Dell Premier Color causes a blue screen coming out if sleep mode with the external monitor plugged in. So I uninstalled it...
"With the PCIe hard drive" #1 You have a solid state drive. It is completely different from a hard drive. #2 There is no write speed difference between your SSD and his SSD. The only difference is the memory space. #3 Memory space in a storage device will almost never be (the only exception is when you actually max it out which obviously is not the case in this video) the bottleneck in a system's performance.
Tartaglia depends on your budget and what you'll be using it for. I use it for photo editing so I have no issues with it. Since you're a college student, you could be eligible for student discounts. You'll need to check with Dell - some manufacturers of hardware and software have discounts for teachers and students. I looked at the Asus Zenbook Pro (which is more affordable) and the Razer Stealth Pro (similar pricing to Dell) before going with this laptop. Good luck in school!
I've had the XPS15 (maximum spec) for 10 days. I have found problems with the colors which prevent me from doing accurate adjustments within my image editing. I use Lightroom & Photoshop in that order. There was a problem with the monitor color profiles, Lightroom was using the nvidia card & Photoshop was using the Intel on board graphics. The images were significantly different going from Lightroom to Photoshop, Photoshop could not recognise the color space generated by Lightroom. Contacting Dell technicians they ended up turning off the installed package' Dell Premier Color Management, to solve the conflict, as a result both Lightroom & Photoshop were now using the nvidia card. However I do find the colors over saturated. I have also found a conflict with the internet browsers in terms of color, having post processed images on the laptop & then loaded them up to Flickr, there is a distinct over saturation of color, this is not something that Flickr has done, since I tested the same image uploaded from my desktop. I did try calibrating the 4k screen with the Colormuki Display, but it did not solve the problems. There are some fairly crude adjustments that can be made with the Intel Onboard Graphics which affect the color display in the browsers, but adjusting that increases the problem with Lightroom & Photoshop which use the nvidia card. I found it impossible to balance all interfaces In the end I gave up, there is no way I can complete post production of images with any degree of color accuracy, there are too many conflicts, and I could not contemplate getting accurate color printing from this machine. One thing I did not try was turning off the nvidia card so that Lightroom & Photoshop would not use it, but that does not sit well & could affect the 4k monitor. Thats my experience so far, I have contacted Dell and have arranged to return the laptop to them within the 14 days return period, it has been a dissapointing experience, but perhap I was expecting too much from this laptop. If you are a serious photographer then I would recommend that you read some of the comments in respect of color issues raised by other photographers within the Dell forum. PS All driver & software updates were completed & I am a Creative Cloud user.
Can you explain how to get NVidia to work with LR & PS. Thank you. I have issue with LR. I edit in Develop and when I go to Library to export, the image is different.
Have the 4k version, 1st thing I did was update to 32 ram and Samsung 1TB. It's a beast. I do not use premier pro sadly due to the cost but using power director 15 I can honestly say it is super fast. Have not had any of the issues you have mentioned in your review. Not sure I would ever buy a refurbished unit though, not for the price anyway.
Guido Valdata no, only Photoshop. And I've found one version CC 15.1 that is not accelerating GPU to highest clock as 2018 does even when idle, so I can get more silence
The problem you are having seems to me more of a driver issues then a hardware issue. In the old days referbushed models were tested more thne the new models. By doing a fresh install of windows might make a difference but it’s hard to tell.
the lag on the mouse is just happening on every hardware. It just Adobe sucking at memory management and leaks, especially when using the lumetris. I got 32 gb of ram and I can see the usage climbing to roof as soon I use lumetri, then the mouse become unresponsive if I keep going.
Appreciate the honest review. Looking to replace my 2009 iMac for graphics/web work with a laptop. Love the MBP display, hate the USB-C only I/O and insanely high price (and very TACKY Touch Bar gimmick). Was leaning toward an XPS 15 or Gigabyte Aero 15 with XRITE/PANTONE display. Need to hear the good and the bad before making a buying decision. Thanks!
Would you consider Lenovo? They make a 4k i7 16gb 512gb with a 1050 card. Port selection isn't great but may solve the performance issues you experienced on your Dell. The 4k HP Spectre is nice too and has an SD card reader but only has a 940.
For what it's worth, these sounds like mostly software glitches. Not hardware. The only exception being the Wifi card issues, which are well documented.
on the export times, I think you mentioned that in the Alienware you have two M2s, could some of the difference being driven because in the Alienware your export destination is different than the location of your NLE and/or source media?
What is happening is the laptop is thermal throttling. People have re-thermal compounded and undervolted the CPU/GPU to resolve the usability issues you’re experiencing.
at 10:02 when you show the lagging, stuttering, the battery icon does not show the computer being plugged. am I correct to assume you were having this issue only when on battery?
fair enough; for sure any decent laptop should offer a power plan that offers full performance on battery, but I guess it is quite common that out of the box, laptops default to "economy" powerplans when on battery. Also, the OP mentions he works plugged in with his Alienware, so to make the comparison fairer, I think he also needs to use the XPS plugged in.
Its like how Nvidia has a GTX line and a Quadro line. Enterprises are recommended to go with Quadro vs GTX. Latitude are their enterprise computers which means it goes through a much thorough QC and engineering in terms of cooling and component reliability especially in volumes. They do charge a premium for it. But Latitudes are meant to last through years and years of abuse.
I own a XPS 15 9550 fully spec out , the amount of hardware problems it has , during the first month the mouse pad just died , few months later the charging port on the laptop doesnt take a charge , and a month after the Warrenty ended the battery started to bloat which pushed out the mouse pad making mouse clicks unusable.
I have the 4k touchscreen dell xps 15 too and I use it daily very intensively for designing in Autodesk Inventor since I'm a mechanical engineer. I really enjoy this laptop and its very good (It handles a 100 to 200 part assembly nicely). One tip I would give if you are considering this laptop for gaming purposes: also buy a cooling laptop platform. This laptop can thermo throttle if you really push it with high quality games. But once you have the cooling laptop platform, it also runs games very well. You could argue that thermo throtteling is a downside of this laptop but its really a downside of ultrabooks in general. Not specifically of this brand and its solved pretty easily.
I'm sorry but this review don't cut it. It is not an accurate review of XPS 15 if you are using a "certified refurbished" version.. should'a went with an all new, out of the box type of thing. I have a new XPS 15 with all the bells and whistles, been using it for 3 months, no issues yet.
Did u see those apple refurbished MacBooks? They are pretty much look like new and no issue. So why this junk (which cost around the same as macbook pro) is like this?
I have the 4k display model i use adobe premiere cc 2019 i make music videos with alot of effects i had the 16gb ram im telling u when it come to speed upgrade your ram to 32 gb ram and go from 515 memory to 1tb and u will see a big difference
Is your Alienware using the 6th gen intel processor? I believe the 7th gen intel processor in the XPS15 9560 is optimized for lower power consumption and could explain the sketchy rendering.
I've had mine, the 4k version 16gbram, 512 ssd m.2, about a year now, had to replace my mb after 2 months cuz of coil whine, but that didn't fix the issue. Tomorrow I'm having my display replaced cuz of the glue behind the panel has starting to loosening from the top screen chassi. Wtf is going on? 😅🤔😥😧 Premier Pro is laggy as hell for me when I resize the panels or move them around, really annoying.
exactly the experience i had with a fully specced 5k 2018 imac (which i returned) i fear that there is no way a machine can move a 5K monitor. adobe itself, on their website states that if the program lags, we should resize the window, so it uses less pixels on the monitor. haw lame is that.. and i wonder: why so few people talk about it? are we the ones with bad luck? or is everyone ok with stuttering and lag? i don't get it... everyone should be angry, and it's just me who's appalled ...
If you use the on-board camera for Skype etc. the up your nose angle from the bottom of the screen will drive you nuts. It makes me not want do do that on this model so it is going back. Additionally I experienced every other problem mentioned here. That being said I am going back to the ASUS Zen I previously returned to get this one and this is going back. Trying to work round the terrible camera placement just isn't worth it. This video definitely influenced me to return this to Costco. I just love Costco's return policy.
It's like you're describing my laptop for some things. Did you manage to find a fix for the stutter in the timeline? This is very annoying! :( Thanks for the video
You guys are buying the wrong laptop version of the XPS. The XPS 15 can be used for video editing, but the Dell Precision 5520 is the XPS but higher end with a Quadro video card for pro video editing. In addition the Precision can be maxed out more. Precision is their high end workstation models. The XPS is more the consumer/business variant of the laptop.
Sounds like you need to add more RAM. The Adobe CC suite is a memory hog, not to mention Chrome. Try checking your usage on task manager. You might be able to rectify that by upgrading your ram if your typical use depletes your available memory
Hi, I have 2 questions about this laptop. 1. Does the CPU get loud if you watch 4k videos on RUclips? 2. Is everything very small (app icons etc) with this 4k model?
Thank you for the review. The problem with the display is that the 1050 graphics card is not great for 4K. A good card for 4K would be at least a 1070.
Been waiting on something like this from you lol I have most of the camera gear I want.but really need advice on wether to go with a laptop or desktop as my primary editing tool.right now I’m just using my smartphone 👎😰 any advice is always appreciated.recent subscriber,loving the Monday shows with Jason
I just bought the XPS 15 9560 4k, coming from a Mac ecosystem I miss the ease of use of the mac OS. The XPS is a fast machine but I'm still thinking if I should sell this and buy the MBP 2017 instead.
Yeah. The track pad is so big that it gets triggers while typing all the time. I just added a bookmark to this page involuntarily because of the track pad. Same thing for the touchbar, but at least I can just turn it off. But then I lose functions I need like volume control. Apple is going down. My next purchase will be something else.
Hello, Im a beginner and recently gotten a a6300 with the sony 50mm 1.7f OSS and wanted to know what decent, affordable laptop I can purchase, also which program to buy, so I can start editing and practicing my skills with the photos and videos taken. Thank you in advance.
Anyone having problems when viewing images they have uploaded to Flickr? On my old HP non-4k laptop I can zoom in to the images on my Flickr page (both uploaded from the old HP laptop and new Dell) and they're nice and sharp. When I try this with the Dell XPS 15 9560, the images are soft. It also appears that the Dell monitor needs some serious colour calibrating. Images are razor sharp when viewed in Lightroom but the image softness when zoomed in on Flickr is driving me mad. Any suggestions please?
Only complaints for my XPS: 1) Shit killer wifi just drops out and bluescreens all the time. Swapped for an intel. 2) Mine shipped with a crappy Toshiba M.2 drive because the Samsung drive was out of stock. Feel ripped off a bit tbh. 3) Space bar sometimes double-registers or doesn't register.
stuttering premiere pro rendering. Lightroom hanging up .. I had all these problems on the 9560. It feels like the system was eating the RAM on the GPU. Slow but more stable system when Nvidia was switched off in Adobe programs. Upgraded now from 16 GB to 32 GB RAM. All problems solved. The 9560 has undergone a metamorphosis. No more problems with ADOBE programs anymore. Since the system RAM upgrade to 32GB, GPU is stable. The 9560 is a real workhorse in adobe programs now. Why didn't I do this 3 years ago!
You had all of those problems because the gtx 1050 graphics card wasn't working (and because of that you disabled it). The graphics card, especially on a 4k display, is a key component to everything else's performance on that computer.
I have the XPS 9560 and it's painful at play back on premier Pro . It's absolutely awful . I'm actually so gutted about it as I saved up so long to get it and I'm a freelance film maker trying to make a living . It's absolutely shocking , I have done 1000 fix tricks and nothing helps . GH4 1080p 50fps footage . It's un useable .
I honestly feel its the refurbished model. I haven't had any issues with mine so far in lightroom. I haven't used Adobe premier so i can't comment on that.
Thanks for pointing out some of the issues. Yes, who spends this kind of money without wanting to do some serious multitasking. Stuttering? I get that with my Mac and I don't have to spend any money. I'll keep looking.
Mouse issue is hardware. It's thermal throttle. It's been problem for every xps 15 generations. Cpu drops down to 900mhz when you hit thermal limit. You have to cool cpu hbm and disable intel thermal framework/turbo boost to disable throttle. It's not Software issue.
so, in the end, any brand we look at, any model, we must and can only choose between a FHD (1080) display with bad gamut (72%, they don't even bother telling you of what color space, God help us) which we know WILL work fast and reliably OR a very beautiful UHD (4K) IPS panel display with awesome 100% adobeRGB gamut, but get terrible performance, stuttering, unreliable scaling with many apps, even recent professional ones, and will spend hours try to mitigate a problem that con't be fixed by us. can anyone chime in?
Lightroom is a piece of shit when it comes to optimization. I had to turn off my graphics card for it too and I’m on a PC. This is more a Lightroom issue than XPS
If you use the on-board camera for Skype etc. the up your nose angle from the bottom of the screen will drive you nuts. It makes me not want do do that on this model so it is going back. Additionally I experienced every other problem mentioned here. That being said I am going back to the ASUS Zen I previously returned to get this one and this is going back. Trying to work round the terrible camera placement just isn't worth it. This video definitely influenced me to return this to Costco. I just love Costco's return policy.
I bought my XPS 15 9560 (1TB, 32GB RAM, 4K screen) 3 months ago and it's been a dream! I've never liked laptops until now. I do the bulk of my editing on a custom PC build or a 2014 iMac, but I really enjoy using the XPS for several small edits and tasks like transferring & archiving files. I haven't had any internet issues, but I'm probably never as far away from my home router as you might be. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!
GFFmatt have you had any issues with fans working under load all the time?
Did you calibrate your screen to get accurate colors fpr editing? Hpw did you do it?
No problem? but when i use it the icon is very small
Can i ask you about battery live in hours on your xps laptop?
I bought the fully specced out version with 4K display and I havent had any issue with it at all. I love this laptop actually. Premiere pro, photoshop and lightroom flies with it.
ArrabonaStudio i just received my XPS 15 4k model but haven’t edited a 4k video with it yet. Are you still experiences good results with the unit?
yes, I have been using it since April. Really heavy use of Premiere pro, Da Vinchi Resolve etc on a daily basis (8-12 hours) and works great!
ArrabonaStudio you’re getting that much battery life on the 4K version?
what are your specific settings? I've heard a great number of people having slow performance (photos would lag loading in lightroom, for example, or stuttering 1:1 premiere playback). and I think it's about the 4K (8.3 millions of pixels to refresh 60 times a second). anyone a feedback / video reply ?
For a 4K 1:1 preview the recommended video card in sites like Puget Systems is Geforece 1070 (1920 Cuda cores) or Quadro P4000 (1792 Cude cores). The XPS 15 has only GTX 1050 (768 Cuda cores). I think it's unrealistic to expect a GTX 1050 card would play 1:1 preview in Premiere.
Hey, to speed up lightroom, right click the lightroom and select Properties then click the Compatibility tab. Under "Settings," check the Override high DPI scaling behavior option. Under "Scaling performed by" drop-down menu, select System. Select OK and you're good to go.
Windows does a better job scaling apps to 4k than the apps themselves. This can be resolved by Adobe but I guess not enough people have the problem to warrant the time and resources it will take to fix it. This also resolves some slow downs I was having with premiere pro as well.
Re not being able to playback at full in premiere with 4k content, something is definitely wrong as I had no issue doing that even with a lut and color adjustments running on the clips. Are you using powersave mode in windows by any chance? And are you using the latest nvidia drivers? It sounds like the nvidia card isn't engaging.
ChriSmith how about premier pro
Best question ! My XPS turns me crazy ! My premiere is horrible
Ergys Shehu I just got my XPS 15 4k and will be editing my first wedding video with it. Why is your experience horrible?
from a photographer's perspective there are a few problems with that solution, the main two being: 1) the text gets blurry 2) the image is less sharp. I think it's windows doing a bitmap scaling of the image and text, which basically means it interpolates the pixels. No one can evaluate sharpening, for example, if the image is being interpolated. I'm not sure of this is true but no one seems to address the specific problem from a photographer/videomaker point of view. anyone, a feedback?
This really is not a good enough solution as it essentially renders the fact of having such a high quality 4k panel - pointless. The software just ends up running at 1080p (if that) and everything looks terribly blurry. Returning my XPS 15 for a macbook pro which can atleast run lightroom without shitting itself.
Was always curious about this one but seems like it's what I had expected... not reliable at all. Thanks for the review, Danny!
I purchased this laptop from Costco
4GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Graphics
15.6" Touchscreen InfinityEdge 4K Ultra HD (3840 x 2160) Display
32GB RAM
1TB PCIe Solid State Drive
Killer 1535 Dual Band Wireless-AC WLAN + Bluetooth 4.1
I bought a 32" ultra wide 4K monitor and a thunderbolt dock and this combo is killer!
I looked at the specs via the link you provided and I think your bottle neck is the 512GB SSD hard drive. With the PCIe hard drive, I am not having any lag.
Also, my router is on the first floor and I am using the laptop upstairs. I use a channel that none of my neighbors are using (they all use the default channel 11). So that helps....
the only issue I have had is with the Dell Premier Color. With latest Windows Update, the Dell Premier Color causes a blue screen coming out if sleep mode with the external monitor plugged in. So I uninstalled it...
"With the PCIe hard drive"
#1 You have a solid state drive. It is completely different from a hard drive.
#2 There is no write speed difference between your SSD and his SSD. The only difference is the memory space.
#3 Memory space in a storage device will almost never be (the only exception is when you actually max it out which obviously is not the case in this video) the bottleneck in a system's performance.
Michael Baltierra So do you recommend this computer for a college student?
Tartaglia depends on your budget and what you'll be using it for. I use it for photo editing so I have no issues with it. Since you're a college student, you could be eligible for student discounts. You'll need to check with Dell - some manufacturers of hardware and software have discounts for teachers and students. I looked at the Asus Zenbook Pro (which is more affordable) and the Razer Stealth Pro (similar pricing to Dell) before going with this laptop. Good luck in school!
How much was it?
I've had the XPS15 (maximum spec) for 10 days. I have found problems with the colors which prevent me from doing accurate adjustments within my image
editing. I use Lightroom & Photoshop in that order. There was a problem with the monitor color profiles, Lightroom was using the nvidia card & Photoshop was using the Intel on board graphics. The images were significantly different going from Lightroom to Photoshop, Photoshop could not recognise the color space generated by Lightroom. Contacting Dell technicians they ended up turning off the installed package' Dell Premier Color Management, to solve the conflict, as a result both Lightroom & Photoshop were now using the nvidia card. However I do find the colors over saturated.
I have also found a conflict with the internet browsers in terms of color, having post processed images on the laptop & then loaded them up to Flickr, there is a distinct over saturation of color, this is not something that Flickr has done, since I tested the same image uploaded from my desktop. I did try calibrating the 4k screen with the Colormuki Display, but it did not solve the problems. There are some fairly crude adjustments that can be made with the Intel Onboard Graphics which affect the color display in the browsers, but adjusting that increases the problem with Lightroom & Photoshop which use the nvidia card. I found it impossible to balance all interfaces
In the end I gave up, there is no way I can complete post production of images with any degree of color accuracy, there are too many conflicts, and I could not contemplate getting accurate color printing from this machine.
One thing I did not try was turning off the nvidia card so that Lightroom & Photoshop would not use it, but that does not sit well & could affect the 4k monitor.
Thats my experience so far, I have contacted Dell and have arranged to return the laptop to them within the 14 days return period, it has been a dissapointing experience, but perhap I was expecting too much from this laptop. If you are a serious photographer then I would recommend that you read some of the comments in respect of color issues raised by other photographers within the Dell forum. PS All driver & software updates were completed & I am a Creative Cloud user.
You should have forced Invidia to work with photoshop. I work this way and have no issues with LR&PS.
how to force nividia to work on ps &lr
Can you explain how to get NVidia to work with LR & PS. Thank you. I have issue with LR. I edit in Develop and when I go to Library to export, the image is different.
What did you end up getting after returning the dell ?
Don't you think that the xps 15 doesn't run good because you have 8 other elements running at the same time?
Have the 4k version, 1st thing I did was update to 32 ram and Samsung 1TB. It's a beast. I do not use premier pro sadly due to the cost but using power director 15 I can honestly say it is super fast. Have not had any of the issues you have mentioned in your review. Not sure I would ever buy a refurbished unit though, not for the price anyway.
Angelo Cincotta how much did it cost to upgrade
Hi, I have the same version. Fans constantly working under some load (like Photoshop), do you have same situation?
do you use lightroom? do you get the lag previewing images like so many do?
Guido Valdata no, only Photoshop. And I've found one version CC 15.1 that is not accelerating GPU to highest clock as 2018 does even when idle, so I can get more silence
Pavlo Mishyn weird stuff. It seems it seems that everyone is having a different experience
The problem you are having seems to me more of a driver issues then a hardware issue. In the old days referbushed models were tested more thne the new models. By doing a fresh install of windows might make a difference but it’s hard to tell.
the lag on the mouse is just happening on every hardware. It just Adobe sucking at memory management and leaks, especially when using the lumetris. I got 32 gb of ram and I can see the usage climbing to roof as soon I use lumetri, then the mouse become unresponsive if I keep going.
Appreciate the honest review. Looking to replace my 2009 iMac for graphics/web work with a laptop. Love the MBP display, hate the USB-C only I/O and insanely high price (and very TACKY Touch Bar gimmick). Was leaning toward an XPS 15 or Gigabyte Aero 15 with XRITE/PANTONE display. Need to hear the good and the bad before making a buying decision. Thanks!
What about coil whine and buzzing / electrical noises coming from the integrated intel HD graphics ?
Would you consider Lenovo? They make a 4k i7 16gb 512gb with a 1050 card. Port selection isn't great but may solve the performance issues you experienced on your Dell. The 4k HP Spectre is nice too and has an SD card reader but only has a 940.
For what it's worth, these sounds like mostly software glitches. Not hardware. The only exception being the Wifi card issues, which are well documented.
some people have had problems with battery swelling as well, which causes the trackpad to pop out in the front.
on the export times, I think you mentioned that in the Alienware you have two M2s, could some of the difference being driven because in the Alienware your export destination is different than the location of your NLE and/or source media?
What is happening is the laptop is thermal throttling. People have re-thermal compounded and undervolted the CPU/GPU to resolve the usability issues you’re experiencing.
To stop the stuttering, you need to delete the Geforce Experience software.
at 10:02 when you show the lagging, stuttering, the battery icon does not show the computer being plugged. am I correct to assume you were having this issue only when on battery?
Does it really matter tho? Besides tracking down where the problem comes from.
fair enough; for sure any decent laptop should offer a power plan that offers full performance on battery, but I guess it is quite common that out of the box, laptops default to "economy" powerplans when on battery. Also, the OP mentions he works plugged in with his Alienware, so to make the comparison fairer, I think he also needs to use the XPS plugged in.
FWIW, a Dell salesperson advised my company to buy Latitude laptops instead of XPS ones because of higher RMAs on the XPS line.
Its like how Nvidia has a GTX line and a Quadro line. Enterprises are recommended to go with Quadro vs GTX. Latitude are their enterprise computers which means it goes through a much thorough QC and engineering in terms of cooling and component reliability especially in volumes. They do charge a premium for it. But Latitudes are meant to last through years and years of abuse.
I own a XPS 15 9550 fully spec out , the amount of hardware problems it has , during the first month the mouse pad just died , few months later the charging port on the laptop doesnt take a charge , and a month after the Warrenty ended the battery started to bloat which pushed out the mouse pad making mouse clicks unusable.
I have the 4k touchscreen dell xps 15 too and I use it daily very intensively for designing in Autodesk Inventor since I'm a mechanical engineer. I really enjoy this laptop and its very good (It handles a 100 to 200 part assembly nicely). One tip I would give if you are considering this laptop for gaming purposes: also buy a cooling laptop platform. This laptop can thermo throttle if you really push it with high quality games. But once you have the cooling laptop platform, it also runs games very well. You could argue that thermo throtteling is a downside of this laptop but its really a downside of ultrabooks in general. Not specifically of this brand and its solved pretty easily.
I'm sorry but this review don't cut it. It is not an accurate review of XPS 15 if you are using a "certified refurbished" version.. should'a went with an all new, out of the box type of thing. I have a new XPS 15 with all the bells and whistles, been using it for 3 months, no issues yet.
To be fair he was very up front about that fact and even asked others to give their experience.
Did u see those apple refurbished MacBooks? They are pretty much look like new and no issue. So why this junk (which cost around the same as macbook pro) is like this?
@that1cameraguy you should try Gigabyte Aero 15
I have the 4k display model i use adobe premiere cc 2019 i make music videos with alot of effects i had the 16gb ram im telling u when it come to speed upgrade your ram to 32 gb ram and go from 515 memory to 1tb and u will see a big difference
Is your Alienware using the 6th gen intel processor?
I believe the 7th gen intel processor in the XPS15 9560 is optimized for lower power consumption and could explain the sketchy rendering.
I've had mine, the 4k version 16gbram, 512 ssd m.2, about a year now, had to replace my mb after 2 months cuz of coil whine, but that didn't fix the issue. Tomorrow I'm having my display replaced cuz of the glue behind the panel has starting to loosening from the top screen chassi. Wtf is going on? 😅🤔😥😧
Premier Pro is laggy as hell for me when I resize the panels or move them around, really annoying.
exactly the experience i had with a fully specced 5k 2018 imac (which i returned) i fear that there is no way a machine can move a 5K monitor. adobe itself, on their website states that if the program lags, we should resize the window, so it uses less pixels on the monitor. haw lame is that.. and i wonder: why so few people talk about it? are we the ones with bad luck? or is everyone ok with stuttering and lag? i don't get it... everyone should be angry, and it's just me who's appalled ...
If you use the on-board camera for Skype etc. the up your nose angle from the bottom of the screen will drive you nuts. It makes me not want do do that on this model so it is going back. Additionally I experienced every other problem mentioned here. That being said I am going back to the ASUS Zen I previously returned to get this one and this is going back. Trying to work round the terrible camera placement just isn't worth it. This video definitely influenced me to return this to Costco. I just love Costco's return policy.
Great honest review!
Was the XPS 15 plugged in during editing and exporting?
Moe Media from the looks on the video it wasnt charging :(
It's like you're describing my laptop for some things.
Did you manage to find a fix for the stutter in the timeline? This is very annoying! :(
Thanks for the video
You guys are buying the wrong laptop version of the XPS. The XPS 15 can be used for video editing, but the Dell Precision 5520 is the XPS but higher end with a Quadro video card for pro video editing. In addition the Precision can be maxed out more. Precision is their high end workstation models. The XPS is more the consumer/business variant of the laptop.
Does the left side of the keyboard get hot when charging the battery. And does the fan come on when you charge the battery. Thanks for your review.
Have you experienced any ghosting issuees?
Sounds like you need to add more RAM. The Adobe CC suite is a memory hog, not to mention Chrome. Try checking your usage on task manager. You might be able to rectify that by upgrading your ram if your typical use depletes your available memory
Hi, I have 2 questions about this laptop.
1. Does the CPU get loud if you watch 4k videos on RUclips?
2. Is everything very small (app icons etc) with this 4k model?
Looks like you used the new 12-24mm here?
Zeiss Loxia 35mm f2 or upcoming FE mount Voigtlander 35mm f1.4/Voigtlander 40mm f1.2?
Thank you for the review. The problem with the display is that the 1050 graphics card is not great for 4K. A good card for 4K would be at least a 1070.
Diego Falla 1050 is more than enough run 4k editing but ofc its not fastest perfomance. Gaming is a other thing but this isnt made for gaming.
Been waiting on something like this from you lol I have most of the camera gear I want.but really need advice on wether to go with a laptop or desktop as my primary editing tool.right now I’m just using my smartphone 👎😰 any advice is always appreciated.recent subscriber,loving the Monday shows with Jason
I just bought the XPS 15 9560 4k, coming from a Mac ecosystem I miss the ease of use of the mac OS. The XPS is a fast machine but I'm still thinking if I should sell this and buy the MBP 2017 instead.
Redd Anselmo What exactly do you miss? Just curious here
Joost Buskermolen opening it up in Starbucks ;p
Be warned, I have the 2017 MBP and it has lots of issues. Every dongle I've used kills wifi randomly, power cable constantly slips out, etc.
Any other issues? I'm trying to decide between the Dell and MBP 2017.
Yeah. The track pad is so big that it gets triggers while typing all the time. I just added a bookmark to this page involuntarily because of the track pad. Same thing for the touchbar, but at least I can just turn it off. But then I lose functions I need like volume control. Apple is going down. My next purchase will be something else.
that1cameraguy Hey man, just wondering if you paid a 15% restocking fee when you returned your product.
Is the xps 15 9560 i5 with 4k display and gtx 1050 good enough for 4k video editing
Is it possible to edit with premiere pro without a mouse as convenient as with a mouse?
Great information, but it's expensive for me can you tell me about 7570 model its few months ago release look like similar to xps
Sounds like RAM issues,13R3 is using 32gb vs 16gb XPS 15? For the speed issues
Are all the software issues fixed at this point?
There's one xps 15 on sale for $999. Should I get it?
Hello,
Im a beginner and recently gotten a a6300 with the sony 50mm 1.7f OSS and wanted to know what decent, affordable laptop I can purchase, also which program to buy, so I can start editing and practicing my skills with the photos and videos taken. Thank you in advance.
help me, with 4k, after install photoshop, AI, Lr. It's not normal with size, display of app. How to fixx.
Thank you' do you know or anyone know if it good with cubase? and what about they talking the 4K not suite for the after effect panel
What is the pc case brand / name, that you have behind you
is this laptop really worth the money cause am planing on buying one but not sure yet.
Should I prioritise on a laptop or get a camera ?
Anyone having problems when viewing images they have uploaded to Flickr? On my old HP non-4k laptop I can zoom in to the images on my Flickr page (both uploaded from the old HP laptop and new Dell) and they're nice and sharp. When I try this with the Dell XPS 15 9560, the images are soft. It also appears that the Dell monitor needs some serious colour calibrating. Images are razor sharp when viewed in Lightroom but the image softness when zoomed in on Flickr is driving me mad.
Any suggestions please?
Whats the best laptop you would recommend for Premiere CC? Razer, Alienware or XPS? Color and Performance wise. Thanks!
Did you update all the recommended drivers? Cuz all of those issues has been solved with updates.
I did, still had problems.
How much battery life do you get with MacBook while using photoshop?
Monstermayank 3/4hours heavy photoshop. 6hours with affinity photo.
Only complaints for my XPS:
1) Shit killer wifi just drops out and bluescreens all the time. Swapped for an intel.
2) Mine shipped with a crappy Toshiba M.2 drive because the Samsung drive was out of stock. Feel ripped off a bit tbh.
3) Space bar sometimes double-registers or doesn't register.
I got a Hynix crappy SSD.. swapped it for a 950 Pro and has made an amazing difference!
Matthew Roberts ouch. Instead least got a Toshiba... Still nowhere near as good, but not awful. It's way better with Intel wireless now at least
Warlock M which particular Intel network card did you get?
How do u know you got the Toshiba because the Samsung was out of stock? I just ordered one and am scared I’ll get the inferior ssd
Patrick Maxwell I emailed after looking up the part numbers.
so why did you replace your alienware....is it that heavy to transport
stuttering premiere pro rendering. Lightroom hanging up .. I had all these problems on the 9560. It feels like the system was eating the RAM on the GPU. Slow but more stable system when Nvidia was switched off in Adobe programs. Upgraded now from 16 GB to 32 GB RAM. All problems solved. The 9560 has undergone a metamorphosis. No more problems with ADOBE programs anymore. Since the system RAM upgrade to 32GB, GPU is stable. The 9560 is a real workhorse in adobe programs now. Why didn't I do this 3 years ago!
Laptops are not just ready yet for 4K displays, i think the 1080 display model will work just fine ....
You had all of those problems because the gtx 1050 graphics card wasn't working (and because of that you disabled it). The graphics card, especially on a 4k display, is a key component to everything else's performance on that computer.
I have the XPS 9560 and it's painful at play back on premier Pro . It's absolutely awful . I'm actually so gutted about it as I saved up so long to get it and I'm a freelance film maker trying to make a living . It's absolutely shocking , I have done 1000 fix tricks and nothing helps . GH4 1080p 50fps footage . It's un useable .
I honestly feel its the refurbished model. I haven't had any issues with mine so far in lightroom. I haven't used Adobe premier so i can't comment on that.
What are your thoughts on AMD Treadripper
What the alternative?
Skip to 3:33 to get to the review
Thanks for pointing out some of the issues. Yes, who spends this kind of money without wanting to do some serious multitasking. Stuttering? I get that with my Mac and I don't have to spend any money. I'll keep looking.
Hi this is Bharath im a VFX student i wanna take Alienware 17r4 is it good are can u prefer me a laptop
very nice Video! How Long does it take to convert 800 Images from ARW into DNG ? thank you for your comment.
Thinking of buying this for 4k video editing but for a little more I can get the gigabyte aero 15x which has the gtx1070 what do you think?
Chef Monstro i think aero 15x has been discontinued
Zairem Renthlei it has but I can still get one
Chef Monstro aero 15x has good specs but it has too many bad reviews on amazon regarding the quality control, which is why i had to skip it.
Mouse issue is hardware. It's thermal throttle. It's been problem for every xps 15 generations. Cpu drops down to 900mhz when you hit thermal limit. You have to cool cpu hbm and disable intel thermal framework/turbo boost to disable throttle. It's not Software issue.
so, in the end, any brand we look at, any model, we must and can only choose between a FHD (1080) display with bad gamut (72%, they don't even bother telling you of what color space, God help us) which we know WILL work fast and reliably OR a very beautiful UHD (4K) IPS panel display with awesome 100% adobeRGB gamut, but get terrible performance, stuttering, unreliable scaling with many apps, even recent professional ones, and will spend hours try to mitigate a problem that con't be fixed by us. can anyone chime in?
To be fair the 97wh version ( what he probs got) is 3 wh off the legal limit
Check out the ASUS UX550VE
Reinstall of windows 10 was 100% worth all the issues it fixed, for me.
i own one and i think the problem with it is poor cooling hence why we have so much issues
HMM i thought about getting the Dell..but...
What did you buy at the end?
Bodalicious W what you get?
Waiting for the sigma 30mm f1.4 rewiev
How much price
in whole video i was your face, i didnt find the labtop in your video.
thansk this is the review i needed
13R3 doesn’t have an SD slot because it’s a gamer Pc 🤦♂️
Start this video at the 6 minute mark.
Lightroom is a piece of shit when it comes to optimization. I had to turn off my graphics card for it too and I’m on a PC. This is more a Lightroom issue than XPS
i had to turn it off too on a 5k iMac, best specs. eventually i returned it.
u need to buy a knew one next time lol
You talking is very speed ramping
MBP is where it's at, just saying =)
macbbook pro more like Dongle Book Pro
abrahamnextel ahaha
ARXV Photo or buy this PC, turn it to a hackintosh and have some fun with the money!
If you use the on-board camera for Skype etc. the up your nose angle from the bottom of the screen will drive you nuts. It makes me not want do do that on this model so it is going back. Additionally I experienced every other problem mentioned here. That being said I am going back to the ASUS Zen I previously returned to get this one and this is going back. Trying to work round the terrible camera placement just isn't worth it. This video definitely influenced me to return this to Costco. I just love Costco's return policy.