Cobblemon with a side of salt
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The cobblemon vs pixelmon argument feels very huge corpo grocery store vs mom and pop corner store. Pixelmon is overall more finished and polished, but feels a little uncanny and sterile, while cobblemon is more homegrown and open source, but not entirely put together
i get the analogy but it's kinda weird to refer to pixelmon as a huge corpo store when they are also made by fans and dedicated people
Also one had almost a decade of development time compared to the other
cobblemon as been only out for 10 months and they only hade time to Animate new pokemon when more time will pass im sure we will get the true full cobblemon Experience
@@rolo9115 From my understanding Pixelmon has become pretty corpo
The management isn't the best nowadays, its just about getting new features and pokemon out asap
While Cobblemon is more about refining things, and has a lot of the older pixelmon developers on it
I think Scotts comparison was spot on. Pixelmon once you got going felt like Pokemon just in the Minecraft engine.
While Cobblemon felt more like a fusion of the two in gameplay.
full odds shiny joltik changes a man
Those jumps are attractive.
Yippee
As a dev for this mod I cannot explain how amazing the Cobblemon Dev team is to work with. They are all so kind and passionate about what they do and always focus on what would be good for players and not for their wallets. Best dev team I have ever been a part of!
Thank you for all of you and your team members' hard work!
I will share this love with them! We are very excited to show folks what has been cooking for the next big update :)@@Sylveon4living
Ya don’t ever forget to be proud of your work! You made something amazing!
tbh i wish at least the mod got most of the pokemon done , or at least up to Galar + all the legendaries but its good nontheless def feels more like a minecraft official collab than pixelmon which could be taken bad or good but imo its good
@@justrad7637 correct me if I’m wrong but I could have sworn they did do most of the Pokemon from most gens. I know they had the paldea starters at the very least (fuecoco is my favorite starter line)
Remember when the original pixelmon was shut down by the pokemon company a year before they released the freemium Pokemon Quest, featuring voxel-like graphics?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I looked into it before. It wasn’t entirely that, and the pixelmon team didn’t seem to be entirely the good guys.
Is pokemon quest any good? I've never felt like trying out because the designs felt a bit lackluster to me.
@@dcbanditIt's.... ok. It's a little baby babuu game, with not very deep mechanics, but it's also inoffensive and simple. It's kind of like those idle games, and pretty approachable and surface level fun, with alright progression, but that's only my opinion from when I played it around the time it first came out.
@dcbandit I played it for about a month and it's pretty bad, it's hard to tell from the outset but as you play you notice things that make the experience worse.
One such example is that the stats of your pokemon randomize upon evolution. For example if you get a geodude with a defense buff, that defense buff might randomize into a speed buff on evolution and you have no real control over it.
TL:DR; Pokemon Quest was not rewarding to play
An addon that actually turns Vanilla Minecraft Mobs into Cobblemon themselves would be hilarious and amazing.
"I Choose You, Pig...!"
It's all fun and games until you see the dialogue "Finish it off, Ender Dragon!"
what would the Ender Dragon's type be? Psychic Dark? Dark Dragon?
@MrBuiznessMan one of the developers is actually making an addon for making Vanilla Mobs Pokémon you can battle.
@@docwulff907 | Dark/Dragon would be my bet, yeah. Now, the question is more difficult for the other mobs. Pig, Chicken, Cow are probably Normals, Parrot's Flying, etc., but the Zombie? Skeleton? Creeper? That's tough.
@@StopTrynaBeTikTok Ghost/Normal Zombie.
Super excited to see our team's work highlighted in a salt videos :D
Addy!
fancy seein you guys here:)
4:00 I'm sure someone has already said this, but they actually plan to add animations for EVERY move. They have three of them showcased somewhere in the announcements channel of the server (I think) and it looks amazing! I'm so excited to see where this mod goes, that's exactly what I've wanted in a pokemon game
What Channel?
As a Animator for this mod, I cannot say how stunning, and frankly honored I feel when working and seeing all the progress that's been made by others in the team! The feeling is even more amplified seeing a youtuber I love watching and have been watching since I was in Middle school, review and talk about it! Thank you Scott, and I can't wait for the what the future holds!
Heya Mr. Falco, thanks for the kind words and support :) The trailer for 1.4 was my baby and I can't wait to share more cobblemon footage in the near future! I'm glad you enjoy the project and thanks for showing it to others! Hope we get to see more cobblemon content from ya!
include petting function NOW
It's so wild to see something I'm contributing to featured in a Side of Salt, but it's so refreshing hearing such nice words about it! As some others have said, there's a lot of sweet things coming around the corner, everyone on the team is so passionate and talented that it's all beyond what I had dreamed was possible in Minecraft.
Props for putting a mod into the spotlight
Always love seeing creators shout out fan made mods and such. These kinds of thinfs are always lovely to see, and i hope you'll continue to do stuff like this in the future. Bravo!
another dev shared this video with the rest of our team and i can definitely say i loved the video:) everyone has such passion for this mod and they are wonderful people to work with. still extremely surreal to see things that ive built being used in a youtube video, it strikes me with motivation to get on my pc and work on builds for the mod lol. impressive that your video can do that to someone. cant wait to see you guys explore the ruins in the next update:)
Mallow!
@@plastered_crab Mr crab!!
To simplify the whole Pixelmon Vs Cobblemon Argument that's old, tired, and pointless by now:
Pixelmon is Quantity
Cobblemon is Quality
Depends on which team, Reforged play it very safe while Generations is taking a pretty big risk doing a complete overhaul, their mod has been down for over a year now, thankfully the Generations team did a closed beta recently for select server owners with the announcement that it will be releasing early this year, I hope during this time they've taken some inspiration from Cobblemon, which seems very likely as their main partner server Pokeninjas has dived full on into Cobblemon.
I honestly wish mainline pokemon games had you working together with your pokemon more often, kinda like in the anime. I find it hilarious how Cobblemon and *Palworld* of all things made me bond with my pokemon more than most mainline entries did. Being able to *really* work together with your mons in battles, building, crafting, and working together to build a base (assuming you didn't go down the slavery route in palworld,) really makes you feel like you're more connected and bonded with your pals and pokemon, way more than they were in the mainline games in-fact. You really remember those little moments where they helped you build your first furnace in palworld, or helped you navigate out of a cave in cobblemon, or when your pidgeot helped you place down the blocks to finish your roof. I really hope the next entry in Pokemon gives our poke-pals even more uses outside of battling, because they add a lot into making those pokemon feel more real.
Even fan games like Infinite Fusion make massive improvements to the Pokémon formula. Both Infinite Fusion and Cobblemon are incredibly community driven which is why I think they’ve been getting a lot more traction recently. The fans of pokemon are now making better Pokémon games than the actual Pokémon company.
Genuinely a Pokémon MMO would be amazing
I'll take "Phrases that people have been (accurately) saying for well over a decade but which GameFreak have absolutely no intention of ever listening to" for $1000.
And no, Go doesn't count.
There is one thats fan made called pokemmo. Played it on mobile. Its really cool.
I mean, Temtem sort of fits the bill.
look up pokemmo
PokeMMO's solid, although they still haven't added some features from the games in yet(Sinnoh Pokemon Contests, the Sinnoh Underground, some Game Corner stuff) though Secret Bases and Contests in Hoenn work, and currently it lacks multiplayer content outside of duels and the occasional co-op event.
I still find the way it does legendaries cool. Most of them are unobtainable for balance purposes, but the few that are, function in a King of the Hill fashion, where only one person can have them, and whoever has them can't refuse a duel. If they lose the duel the winner gets the legendary, and if the owner doesn't fight anyone for a while, the legendary gets bored and leaves.
SCOTTT NOOOO THE NINTENDO NINJA'S HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN!
I doubt that'll happen. It's open-source and near impossible to monetize
@@c_cyp you and i know how Nintendo is
@@c_cyp They could straight up cancel the development team so the game wouldn’t update anymore!
As much as it pains me to say it, not drawing unneeded attention to the mod might actually be the safest way to prevent its take down. If nintendo doesnt know about it, then it wont get taken down by them.
@@jamiesadf5829 their gonna fucking body slam them
One thing I'm a bit sad you didn’t mention was the fainting/idle animations being f-ing amazing. Tandemaus is by far my favorute
Pro gamer tip : "Click on the name of your pokemon in any gui that allows you to select your pokemon to be able to change it !"
- Hatsune Miku, President of the United States
He made a whole video just to show off a full odds joltik. That, I can respect.
You know it’s good when all the salt is going to the real games and not the mod
I’d will vouch for the folks on the cobblemon islands server; who have been adding more and more of the dex over the past few months and even fixing some of the issues the vanilla has. Highly recommend if anyone wants a server to try this out on.
Speaking of integration with vanilla minecraft: non-pokemon mobs can still attack you while in a pokemon battle, but you can press R to suspend the battle and take control of your character back at any time, so it's no like pixelmon where turning on vanilla mobs means they can just get a free kill while you stand there like an idiot.
Also, you run from battle by actually running from battle because they automatically end if you get too far away.
I use to play pixelmon a lot, but when I saw and tried out Cobblemon I had this huge realization of "this is what Pokémon In Minecraft should feel and look like, not like the Pokémon where strong armed into the game, but integrated into the game elegantly crafted to fit the blocky esthetic Minecraft has" like you can tell the mod creators have a lot of passion for this project and I look forward for what comes next in this mod
Been playing Cobblemon since release. It's already come so far! I can't wait to see where it goes next.
My friends set up a server where we each picked our favorite gmy/elite four member and built a team and gave out pokemon to anyone who could beat us.
There's so much you can do in it b/c it's still Minecraft but there's just pokemon around.
Your cobblemon streams were a delight to watch
Artist on the mod here, tysm for checking us out!!!
Something not mentioned in this video (Because at the time of upload the feature is disabled for overhaul iirc) is that with smaller pokemon you can have them ride on your head/shoulder and they give you passive buff effects! Like for example having a Joltik ride on your shoulder would give you night vision.
That's awesome
Been playing Cobblemon with a few friends and it has been a blast, cannot wait to see what else is released for this mod
this is so well timed, I started playing this mod last week.
Cobblemon streams are always nice streams, looking forward to more in the future
There are better Pokémon games in Minecraft now, than the actual main-line games. I just can't.
And they're cheaper!
Anyone who stills buys those games full price actually deserves the garbage they get now. imagine spending money on games that never go one sale just for something worse than free mods
Yep. Pokemon hasn't had a good game since Gen 7. And even then there were some questionable choices
I’ve been following Cobblemon for the last several months and only played it recently for the first time. It really is an incredible mod with a ton of potential to be the “definitive” Pokémon mod. The thing I’d love to see the most at this point is a dedicated Minecraft server because I’ve had issues with getting all of my friends onto one LAN world.
I genuinely hope to see Cobblemon improve in the future. One of my favorite parts of playing pixelmon is scrambling to catch a legendary when a notification pops up, so I want to see how Cobblemon handles their legendaries. Structure based legends are cool, but I’d love to see at least some rng when legendaries are fully implemented.
*I'm living for the Kingdom Hearts sound effects used for the vid ^^*
have you seen the Kingdom Hearts mod? 👀
@@AsakediaWait, what is it called? I have to see it.
@@darienb1127 Kingdom Keys 2, it's pretty good.
Been following cobblemon for so long and i love how much love its getting ❤
it looks really dope, thx for the great video😄
This looks rlly cool
Its kind a nuts how much more natural of a pokemon world a minecraft mod is vs a nintendo open world game like legend of arcius feels.
Hearing there’s a mod to fight alongside your Pokemon has captured my interest again! Really wanted to use my Pokemon against monsters out there
Enjoyed your streams man Hope to see more soon when all the stuff gets fixed it was a lot of fun to see the cob mon streams
The salt is "Gamefreak, Get it together."
you have gotten me to want to play this game. mission accomplished. now to get my friends to play it
This is a great vid ngl
I remember my brother putting so much effort in a community pixelmon server, saying it was the kind of game he loved to see with Pokemon. Now, he's putting his efforts into making mods for Palworld, as we both found pure sugar cane fun with that game. Also being a modmaker, I wish all the peeps working on this mod the best of luck in growing this to higher places.
bro this is exactly what ive wanted from something like pixelmon it makes it feel more like palworld in the sense were your pokemon are part of your adventure not just the only thing that exists
A little weird seeing a side of salt video for a mod.
To be fair, it feels like an entire new game by it's own. And way better than a lot of recent actual games. Let alone recent actual Pokémon games.
Keep in mind the salt for RLCraft that was loads of fun
Personally, I would be happy to see even more!
I mean, he’s done games, DLCs, fangames… it’s just the next logical step.
@@confuzedduk1008he's also done mods and romhacks before
Okay, you’ve sold me. I had a big Minecraft phase a couple years ago and this seems ideal for me to kick off a modded Minecraft phase.
I love that he says, the entirety of survival, while vein mining coal
Scott’s back at it again… glad you’re back man
This mod looks fun
Your talking animations are rad so clean
Man I hope scott does one of these for palworld
I also loved Legend's ball hucking mechanic
One thing I adore (idk if its in base cobblemon or not) is that in the pack, "big chad guys plus" mons will aggro depending on species if you attack em, angive effects relating to it. For example I hit a mabostiff and got blinded and killed BUT! This also applies to your mons and the higher the level the more damage they do, so ya can have your mons out with you and they'll fight mobs that attack you. My chimchar incinerates anything that looks at me wrong XD
This is a planned feature that can be enabled early with the "fight or flight" addon, yes.
Hell yeah, cobblemon has been my favorite Minecraft mod since Tekkit.
This was a very good video! Thank you for making it.😁
I was not expecting a video on a minecraft mod, it was good
I hope this vid was fun for you to make! From what it sounds like in your posts you've been having a rough time lately so it was really nice to hear how positive and happy you sounded.
There’s also a lot of little cobblemon servers that need more love! A good example is the cobblemon roanoke server! They host weekly tournaments for legendaries and stuff, they have a great community and they do fun events all the time, with even a gym circuit (spoiler alert, im the first gym member, and they might be looking for more idk). So if anyone is interested in cobblemon, I recommend finding a good server with good people if you don’t have any friends to play with, since it’s just as much of a blast!
This video is a moment where you would rub your eyes and yell “HUH?!”
You are a good person, Scott Falco
I began playing the mod around a year ago I think, and I have to say I think it's absolutely amazing. It fits into the actual Minecraft world so well.
seems interesting ill be trying it out
Man, stuff like this is so much more immersive with mobs capable of being battled with your pokemon
It's cool there are addons trying to make them do more in the world! Sheep pokemon dropping veal and wool, the porygon there seemed to be messing with the redstone too!
Maybe there's an addon that makes rock and steel type pokemon act like silver fish that can hide among stone and ore blocks. So much potential
Minecraft mobs and their Types:
All passive overworld Mobs - Normal
Parrots - Flying
Sheep - different type based on the colour of the wool (I think it'll be fun)
Llama - Fighting
Allay - Flying, Fairy
Bats - Flying
Bee - Poison, Flying
Polar Bear - Ice
Snow Fox - Normal (it's a shiny Fox. Same with Ocelots and Cats)
Frog - Water, (ground, plant, ice. Depending on type)
Phantom - Ghost, Flying
Spiders - Bug
Cave Spiders - Bug, Poison
Zombie - Ghost
Drowned - Ghost, Water
Husk - Ghost, Fire
Skeleton - Ghost
Stray - Ghost, Ice
Whither Skeleton - Ghost, Poison
Creeper - Plant
Charged Creeper - Plant, Electric
All water mobs - Water
Axalotl - Water, Fairy/Fighting
Gaurdian - Water, Electric
Elder Gaurdian - Water, Electric
Blaze - Fire
Ghast - Fire, Flying
Magma Cube - Fire, Ground
Strider - Normal
Piglin - Normal
Piglin Brute - Fighting
Hoglin - Fighting, Rock
Shulker - Fairy
Endermite - Dark
Enderman - Dark, Fairy
Warden - Ghost, Ground
Wither - Ghost, Fire
Ender dragon - Dragon, Dark
Pillagers - NPC Trainers
Vex - Flying
Ravager - Fighting
Witch - Poison
Whatever the Evoker summons from the ground - Ground, Dark
Always gotta love how fan projects have more passion and love for the series than the mainline games have had in years
I think the mainline games still have passion in them, mostly from the art team, but they're held back an incredible ammount by a garbage release schedule that requires they pump out a "complete" game every single year (except for years where the slot is taken up by DLC).
Imagine if SwSh and SV were the ONLY games Gamefreak made in the three years between their releases(And SwSh DLC didn't exist). That would more than triple the amount of time Gamefreak would've had to get to develop Scarlet and Violet.
I didn't play cobblemon before but I feel like sharing this story anyhow because it is pokemon related: I used to play a fair amount on a Pixelmon server, and one thing I would like doing is picking a very large pokemon (Like a Mega-Evolved Steelix or a Xurkitree), riding it, and going to spawn to mess with other players.
I remember those streams, it was a great time
Its nice seeing an almost completly positive vid from you!
Loved watching your cobble streams hope when your New New pc gets here we can see more of them or your real server idea
I remember your Cobblemon streams and how happy and content you were when playing it
Which is saying a lot considering your circumstances at the time…
That robotic baddie can still receive it (rare candies)
what
@@Trafficallity HUBBA HUBBA CYBORGCHAN 🤤
Some of my friends are actually helping animate the Pokémon models for this mod, which is pretty cool.
Ah yes, another video by my favorite Gurren Laggan super fan RUclipsr, ScottFalco
if you want balls that work better out of battle, what I've loved using are Safari Balls, which use Yellow and Green Apricorns, plus a bit of copper. ABSOLUTELY worth the cost imo, since it's the Great Ball's catch rate.
Love this mod
looks pretty cool
This is what Palworld achieved that the mainstream game didn't
This project is already so exciting to see, even in its unfinished state. I can't WAIT for the complete pokemon + minecraft experience, considering it's most likely the unironically best way to experience pokemon at all. A sad truth, but one that is better than no such alternative existing.
“There’s no laws against the Cobblemon, Falco.”
you know one of the things that people push cobblemon for is that regular minecraft mobs are there, but Pixelmon has a toggle to allow regular mobs to spawn
I was surprised when I heard that there was another Pokemon mod for Minecraft, but I might like this way more. Pixelmon feels like "Pokemon in Minecraft", but this feels like "Pokemon Minecraft" if that makes sense.
I have wanted that to be a thing for so long, but was never sure how it could actually work in a way that felt... I dunno... like it genuinely meshed. This? This is truly wonderful and awesome. I really hope to see it continue to grow and inspire Pokemon (and Minecraft) lovers everywhere.
Palworld and Cobblemon are kinda similar games. I bet people who enjoyed one would enjoy the other.
Nah palworld is more similar to ark than pokemon
I kinda always related it to digimon but you can fight alongside...@@CleopatraKing
The beggining has the best rap ive ever heard
The worst part of 3D models is that they don't express any personality and just stand there in an standard pose doing nothing
The difference between black/white 2 and X & Y forward is huge
I don't personally care for Minecraft, gave it a try in its early days and found it boring, but this actually looks fun.
if cobblemon had the same development time as pixelmon it would probably one of the best mods out there
🔫 gonna need that legendary mod
First time seeing the need avatar designs in a video! They look great!
id play this modpack if i new the mods, looks like a good pack
Scott looking at fan creations
I love how a Minecraft mod feels more enjoyable than a mainline game LOL
Do you happen to have a list of recommendations for extra mods to add to the game?
if you use curseforge, I found that BigChadGuys Plus is pretty damn good for a cobblemon experience
Nemona Theme still hits hard
You made this video to have others check it out, and i can say for certain i definitely will!!
bruh wtf i just got a cobblemon server like 40 mins ago and this pops up in my recommended ive been playing it for a few hours now, so fun ngl
Where did you get that map in the top left of the corner AND what mod lets the Pokemon fight alongside you?
I loved playing this with my friends! We didn’t use any other mods though, is there a specific mod pack you would recommend?
When I evolved a Tandemaus I caught in cobblemon it evolved into the 1/100 3 family form and I couldnt have been happier