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Phil Heath 7x Mr. Olympia Talks Bodybuilding, Mental Health & Personal Struggles | The Pivot Podcast
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Phil Heath, one of the greatest body builders of all time and a seven-time winner of Mr. Olympia joins The Pivot in a special Friday conversation talking his journey into fitness and performance as well his personal struggles along the way.
Sitting down with Ryan, Fred and Channing, Phil details his path from his childhood dream of being a professional athlete to wrestling to finding his calling as a bodybuilder. But a lot of success didn’t come without a lot of struggle. Overcoming mental health issues and loss, Phil turned his setbacks into motivation and explains how he was able to make peace after suffering emotional disappointments.
And no show would be complete without Channing being able to ask the questions we all want to know but wouldn’t dare say out loud!
Tune in to this special Friday conversation at 3p est with episode streaming on RUclips, Spotify and Apple podcasts 
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Fred accidentally leading Channing into his nasty conversations is wild lmaooo
Freaky Fred be knowing what he’s doing 🤣
He automatically knew he went down the wrong road and Chan took it way way out their. Hahahahaha gotta Love these guys man.
Lol camera 🎥 panned to Channing so quick!😂. Channing was like "👀"!
Chan chillin but you open the door we know the homie gonna do his job🤣🤣🤣 these guys chemistry is funny, amazing and well balanced !
@WearyKawhi on god 😂. He be throwing that Lob to Channing 😂😂
Phil just broke another boundary for body builders !! Thanks to the pivot podcast 🙏🙏🙏 y’all boys solid man keep inspiring keep pushing most importantly keep loving one another 💪🏾
Im a disabled vet. 6 years ago I found out I have cancer that has destroyed my endocrine system. It was give up, or fight back. Just like saying he laid in the road and heard nothing. After my consult, I sat alone, heard nothing. Im still here and Im better for it. His story makes me appreciate what he has done even more.
The level of honesty and emotional vulnerability you guys allow to flow naturally is a testament to the caliber of people you are. Another great show
Your guys guest list is crazy. You guys have covered a wide spectrum of guests in such a short time. It's legendary to say the least.
Because they are willing to travel... of course they are respected.. but going to the guests homes and places of business is a huge plus
💯💯
Facts
Derek Rose should be a guest🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Indeed
"You won't see them at Expos because they will get Expose".
Fred loved that bar 😆!
The diversity of this show is crazy! Again, these boys don't miss!!! Love it!
Exactly
Facts
Absolutely, Definitely my favorite interview show
facts !!!!!
@Z Z I'm referring to the different topic genre, they don't just stick to one sport or guest type. what are you talking about?
Man I got chills when he started talking about your identity being wrapped up in your sport.
Bro, Phil Heath is a big dude, but he's also a humble and down to Earth dude. Another great episode fellas.
I can imagine CT Fletcher on the Pivot. That would be a homerun episode.
Facts
Man I would absolutely love for them to bring CT Fletcher in
They interviewing the wrong one. Phil killed Bodybuilding
Kurt Angle
@flyingspacerock8968 explain because i dont know
I would of never thought y’all would interview Phil Heath. W interview, I’m a huge bodybuilding fan and big fan of Phil. This was cool.
Same here
I didnt know who this Man was and I am glad this Show introduced me to Him
wow! this podcast is unmatched! they interview legends in every walk of life... Never did I think they would get Phil Heath... salute fellas..
The diversity of this podcast's guests is unreal. Keep 'em coming fellas!!!
But most are Black
@capricornmagic63 not all .. Jesus kaitlyn Jenner and ric flair ain’t black lol
I knew you was talking about the diversity in the different sports not necessarily color.
@capricornmagic63 Diversity applies to more than just race.
@capricornmagic63 most sports stars are black !
I love when yall introduce someone new to me. His story resonates so much! Most kids that dont the pro dream have to pivot and find their identity. It sucks, ive laid in the road myself. Thank you guys for this one!
No pun intended. Hope you're on the right path now, bro.
Thank you for sharing Dillon
Phil Heath is a monster. Such an inspiration to many in the bodybuilding world. Good conversation with a legend
“Im Damn glad no cars hit you.” -RC
DAMN that line hit deep for me who also tried suicide when I was 18 but I’m alive at 27 still kicking it.
Anyways Channing made this episode be hilarious haha and Freddy with the DEEP questions . What show… keep at it !
god had bigger plans for you, im glad you pulled thru man!
Glad you’re still here with us
Keep kicking, bro!
Glad your still here my Man, GOD’s Plan is the Best Plan
Glad to see you here brother. 👑
Yoooo, Channing is the best😂🤣😂🤣..." If my forearms was that big, I'd tear my whole head off, nothing but the shaft left"-channing
Channing is a straight fool!!! I can always count on him to make me laugh; especially when he makes RC and Fred T to uncomfortable 😂😂😂😂
I never thought bodybuilding would be even a podcast on here. My two worlds collide. Let’s go!
U know Channing succeeded when the guest be like “this man is crazy” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
nah this was hard. been in therapy. was supposed to play at my dream school but thought I was going to marry my dream gal. so i passed up the school and got cheated on. I battled--I'm about to graduate with a degree in CS. this is the conversation a lot of young men dont wanna have. I'm only 23 but i appreciate this so much
Stay strong bro, as someone who had a similar journey I can say now you were put here for something greater. Salute.
This was such a great episode. The versatility in who the pivot is interviewing is unbelievable. This has opened my eyes to a lot. I have contemplated suicide and I’m happy to still be here. It’s been rough for me, but I’m blessed to be standing here today. I appreciate this episode because it has brought much clarity. Thank you so much
Blessings brother. May not knw me but I’m glad you’re still here. Love 🤟🏾 Strive for greatness! You’re A King! 💪🏿
@dellthompson1260 appreciate that my brotha and many blessings your way 🦾👑
"You won't see them at expos cus they'll get exposed." Fred looked like really wanted to say "that's a bar right there"
Dude is way more thoughtful than I would have guessed. New fan here
Phil does deserve his flowers. Legend indeed.
Facts!!
You all are bringing out the personalities behind your guest's athletic career! THANKS!
Channing reminds me so much of my grandma. Zero filter and everything that comes out his mouth is somehow hilarious 😂
Oh so nana a freak? 😏
@somewero49 hell nah 😭😂
😂😂😂He makes me laugh
This makes a lot of sense now. Phil came into an EOS gym in Gilbert, AZ during busiest time. It didn’t take long for those to realize it was him. He could barely train without ppl interrupting. He smiled, took pics, and never broke stride. That shit was really impressive and him speaking makes way more sense now.
The way RC linked Seattle and violence back to a question of suicide to Phil deserves an award for sure!!
I peeped his journalistic prowess. Man deserves an Espy!
Oh they def gonna win many awards in the future!
Agreed and growing up in seatown and losing friends to suicide and violence. Finally getting away. Being suicidal myself. Growing up around the gangs and shootings and being a brotha and a fan of the sport. This hit home more than u can imagine. Def award deserving.
Facts!! I felt it too
@samsneadd 💯
I'm glad when people talk about their experiences with suicide. My situation wasn't that I didn't hear anything, it was just a lot of noise in my head that wasn't real. My loved ones that I was preparing to leave were being checked off in my head until my son showed up. At that moment, everything came to a slamming hault and I came back to reality. It was noisy af in my head, but in reality, there was no sound at all. It was deathly quiet. At that moment, I realized I had to make A LOT of changes. BTW, I never comtemplated suicide. The pain got so intense and the decision was made out of no where. Its a literal psychotic break created by pain, depression and hopelessness.
RIP Chadwick Boseman. Another great show.
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode😭. Man, i am so glad i got to see this side of Phil Heath. What a guy. Thank God no car hit him👊🏾🙌🏾
The GOAT! I love this! The first to crossover to bodybuilding! And to get Phil?!! EPIC!
This became one of my favorite things to watch easily every show is a banger🔥 Y’all all fit into it so perfectly much love to all of you for doing this💪🏼
They rocked this one. I wasn't expecting Phil Heath as a guest. I'm glad I watched this one. This one could've went longer it was getting good. Great advice when Phil spoke about people getting their physical on the regular. A good majority of men of color are afraid of the doctor visit.
One thing about this show...it really shows u that all these greats that we think are superhuman...that they actually have gone thru some very dark times in the past and some even now...mental health and hard times either make or break u...everyone needs someone to lean on!!
I have been a Phil Heath fan since his first Mr.Olympia. I have listened to a plethora of his interviews and I have never heard the laying in the street story until now. Shout out to the Pivot Podcast!!
They don’t miss!!! The next step is to interview a regular random person, because they changing regular peoples lives…💯💯💯
Channing got me dying omg!!! 🤣
Phil heath revealing he won state with Jamal Crawford not even 5 minutes into the pod wtfff this episode is crazyyy!🔥🔥🔥
Top tier show! Since the beginning these guys have delivered. Love the variety of guests and watching RC, Channing, and Freaky Fred grow throughout the lifetime of this show. Props to Phil Heath for sharing some of his experiences on this episode. 👏🏾 to RC with the Chadwick Boseman shirt. Bravo.
Phil is the shit! Glad to hear him being this open and honest. He is a great representative of our sport
The reason this podcast is great is because nothing is forced, they ask real difficult questions, and they aren’t afraid of confrontation. Excellence & black excellence at that.
Wow, very few podcasts in the culture give bodybuilding some light
Channing be killing me with the weirdo questions lol. This was a good motivator for anything... I am a chef and gave me good go get em energy
I’m so happy that more men are talking about their mental health struggles and battles with depression.
This dude grew up with so many famous athletes it’s crazy
Makes sense how he was so down bad and hungry seeing everyone come up…great episode
Imagine others like him who didn't make it, seeing him and other dudes who are super famous
Seattle produces alot of pro athletes. Especially South Seattle and The Central District
@Notforsale206 I remember nate Robinson saying it was a lot of stars that came out of seattle
@Notforsale206 even outside of Seattle, around Spokane everywhere is a basketball hoop and kids be hooping
Seattle is on another level
Met Phil Heath when I was still competing in the NPC. Showed my son the photo we took and my son said, "He makes you look like a little boy..." Thanks alot son, LMAO
15 mins and this is one of the best podcast episodes I have ever listened too and I spend way too much time on this app watching pods……much respect for PH and the Pivot guys for talking about an issue that so many people feel
I love how Uncle Fred is listening with his heart....Unc we appreciate u
The worlds rejection is Gods protection 🙏
19:05 “You were saved, to do something better” SUCH a deep statement! 🙏🏼❤️ May God bless him and his journey!
Incredible Episode with Phil. You guys brought the deepest and fun out of him. Well done. More people need to see this!
Freddy T “Im asking for the women, I’m good” 😂😂😂
I remember the comments that were said about Heath, and just took it as someone who was super confident and excelled at everything….hearing his story from himself, suprised the heck out of me and made him more human; good show as always.
Suicide, Depression Ain't Know Joke!! I understand him 100%
RC's conclusion was on point. 🙏🏾 Greaaat episode!
"I'm so glad no cars hit you"... Damn, what a full stop 💯
RC seems so much more relaxed and in his bag on this podcast
It's the environment you can tell the group has a real relationship
Channing on Bro Chat with Fouad and the guys would be fucking incredible😂
Man this is interview is AMAZING! I MET Phil YEARS AGO and he was the exact same genuine dude that he was in the interview. Much Respect to Phil and to you guys for what what you’re doing!
damn that last sentence hit hard. that ending was some poetic stuff
This was outstanding. I had never heard of him, because I don't follow bodybuilding, but after this I'm a fan! Inspiring story, and he seems to be very humble.
Huge fucking fan of Phil. This man has had the best most aesthetic physique in modern body building. Always been a fan actually. He set the modern standard
Once again the trio delivers... blessings to the platform my brothers
kurt angle + tiny lister aka deebo = Phil Heath
I need that shirt RC has on. This podcast is different.
“You won’t see’em at Expos cuz they’ll get exposed” - Phil Heath
That’s a bar 🔥
Channing is a nut. Then Fred putting his phone away. All they needed was to tuck the chain in the shirt lololThese dudes have really taken off. Great guests and content!
I'm missing a limb but it don't mean that I'll stop being the best I can be hard work dedication!!
I didn’t see this coming but happy to see y’all got 7x mr Olympia Phil Heath on this
Channings eyes when ole dude was approaching was hysterical! Like he seen Michael Myers approaching with a Machete! LOL!
Huge respect 🙏🏽 to Phill for this 👏🏽. This is deep.
Phil took a shot at the "scams" when asking how he would encourage other young man get into the sport of bodybuilding.... that shows his true character
Ok ya caught me off guard with this crazy pivot . I see what ya doing 🙏🏿💙🐐 i can tell ya was definitely aware in your primes 🔥🔥🔥
I didn’t know Phil cared so much about the community. I learned a lot. Godspeed.
This show is goin to good directions and different genres is really great. It’s different from other podcast and only having great conversations where their guest can open up to a personal level. Keep up the great work guys.
Would like to really see phil heath against kai green again on a competition
I’m only here just to hear Phil Heath speak. One of the most phenomenal bodybuilders of all time. They call him “The Gift” for a reason. I’m
Can’t believe ya’ll got Phil Heath 7 time Mr Olympia on here damn this was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fred, Runningbacks are a rare breed. They can be tough as nails and emotional cowards at the same time. You are frighteningly courageous.
I used to HATE "the gift" and now you can't do nothing but appreciate his greatness. I loved the boys touched on that. Oh and RC is back to killin it with the sweater
Top dawgs gotten give flowers to my Florida brother Chan. My guy
This one was an Emotional roller coaster😮💨🙏🏾
Vince Wilfork, Troy Polamalu, Richie Incognito, Randy Moss
Loving Phil Heath, his honesty and integrity. 💜Pivot Podcast
Respect Phil so much more now.
Phil is the man, miss seeing him compete. One of the best ever.
Pivot is definitely the show. Ryan is so articulate that its crazy...............
THIS was amazing. I’m in the Bodybuilding Industry and I never knew this about Phil. Bravo to this awesome podcast 🎊 🎉
When he said "I had to treat myself at a higher standard" WOW what word🎙️🎙️🎙️
💪🏼 never thought I’d see Phil on the pivot!
Y’all always bring the most honest and genuine conversation no matter who the guest is 🔥🔥
Western Australia, March 2014. Phil’s doing a meet and greet signing at a Supps store. Line is around the corner. Supp store says, you buy, skip the line. I don’t. I’m there for Phil. Time is up, signing should be over. I’m still in line. 2hrs later, Phil is still there. I get to meet him, shake hands and have a photo. I thank him for staying. He THANKS me for waiting. That was my piece of Phil, and he didn’t leave me hanging (42:20). Ever grateful Phil, thank you.
Channing is a damn fool, 🤣🤣🤣 The forearm joke had me crying.
🤣🤣🤣
Phil is a true CEO,/OWNERSHIP on Self with top health in place. Salute!
You guys are a treasure to the culture!!! Y’all brought out The GIFT!!! Damn.. I love this
The Moment you realize failure is not final! The awakening of the soul!
Shoutout to Big Phil a true Seattle Legend. ☔️
Letting the guests talk is one of the best part of the show. Different platforms is crazy good
You need a Channing on this kind of show with the seriousness of some of the questions to bring that laughter and comical aspects to it. He is a real fool and it’s needed… much respect to all u brothers and the great content you put out💯💯💯💯
Talk about diversity of guests , this is gold