Amen. I found myself alone and abandoned by the church after I left an abusive marriage. I started a non-profit because I could find no churches doing what Jesus said to do.
I am so sorry to hear about your relationship and the empty churches that did not embrace you. It is amazing to me how few churches out there are actually being a church. Congrats on the non-profit. While there is no excuse, ever, for spousal abuse (or inactive churches), I am so glad that you've been able to rise from that and make a difference. Praise God and prayers for your continued healing.
Theodor Willis why in the heck would I even consider dating another guy after my husband tried to kill me??? Also, you think that attempted murder is less offensive than adultery? He broke the marriage vow not me. He was sleeping with teenagers in Asia. Anyone who wants to kill their wife for money is guilty of breaking the marriage covenant . I know the scriptures. I went to graduate school inTheology at Fuller Seminary.
Pastor Patrick Darnell Thank you. The real church has left the building. I go to the streets and preach the gospel. The modern church expects people to walk through those doors but Jesus says go out to them! They stay and sit in their pews doing nothing!
Religion is the calisthenics and Serving is the Worship, Hope street, Kaiors prison ministry , Free men, Keeper of the Heart, and others, there is a simple Church in Shreveport LA there mot is "Do Good " Good talk , keep up the work!!!
All of this sounds amazing. Practically putting that into practice…haven’t seen it yet. The church would be great, but people keep getting in the way. I’ve served on staff at three churches. It’s always the same story. Modern church doesn’t work no matter what you do. It exists, but it never thrives for more than a season. After that, the crash! Lots of words here, but I’ve heard that sermon many times. How about this? Realize people ARE the Church and quit trying to fix and reinvent a system that men crafted and then expected God to work with. Not sure Jesus would ever attend church. Maybe He would, maybe not.
It exists. But you cannot build a new church model on the old man made foundations. It’s a new (old) paradigm. I’ve been meeting with groups for over 25 years in homes. The Biblical prescription is: 1. Meeting in homes 2. Centered around a fellowship meal (the Lords Supper$ 3. A time of open sharing by everyone, for edification and encouragement of all. 4. No hierarchical leadership, rather leadership from among not over the Body. Church decisions by consensus, not by a “clergy”. 5. Plural eldership, informal, no titles or special honoraries, no clergy/laity divide. We are all brothers and sisters with different gifts; the expression of those gifts are functional, NOT positional! 6. Church is family, the people , not some building. That’s it!
The early church was built around the people getting together and drifting each other through Scripture and fellowship. The modern church is built on the business model, one person makes the decisions, the board agrees, and they advertise their church. Much what goes on stays inside the "spiritual corporation". You have a CEO that desires to improve his product and uses God's name to do the work. Sadly, the product rarely leaves the building and the product doesn't surface to its people.
@@pastorpatrickdarnell3466 sure. It seemed ironic that a Ted talk about how the system is artificial and needs replaced accidentally mimics the properties of that system.
That's this guy's problem - considers being a 'pastor' as a profession. Notice the scripture that some reference as the five-fold ministry. Christ GAVE some apostles, prophets, evangilists, shepards and teachers. He gave, so it's a gift. Not a profession. It's not even a pastor (only place this word is used) but a shepard. Churchianity is why it's a profession, Christianity never suggested it should be a profession.
He must be from the church of feel good or the church of so-called “social justice” which isn’t about True Justice. Apparently he’s not from Christ believing Church or he would’ve said so. He didn’t mention Jesus the Christ once nor a single piece of scripture of God‘s word. Simply doing good deeds is not at all what Christ the savior was about. Read the Bible but forget this guy.
Homelessness goes deeper than not being able to get a job. There is often some mental illness that leads to the homelessness. Anyone who works with the homeless could tell you homelessness is due to wrong belief.
So religious subjects are not educational? Censorship, as you seem to believe in, is the opposite of open discussion and education, and diametrically opposed to what a TED talk is supposed to be.
I think one can learn however you want, I just think religion is not the best source of education when it mocks logic, being skeptical, and those who have doubts...while TED is a great platform for education, religion should not have a platform as it is not truly "educational." Heck, religion even has one day of the week which it has a platform to de-educate the mind, rob the poor, and give false hopes. Church folks can commune all they want, but they don't hold a monopoly on community @@rjhinnj
Amen. I found myself alone and abandoned by the church after I left an abusive marriage. I started a non-profit because I could find no churches doing what Jesus said to do.
I am so sorry to hear about your relationship and the empty churches that did not embrace you. It is amazing to me how few churches out there are actually being a church. Congrats on the non-profit. While there is no excuse, ever, for spousal abuse (or inactive churches), I am so glad that you've been able to rise from that and make a difference. Praise God and prayers for your continued healing.
Theodor Willis why in the heck would I even consider dating another guy after my husband tried to kill me??? Also, you think that attempted murder is less offensive than adultery? He broke the marriage vow not me. He was sleeping with teenagers in Asia. Anyone who wants to kill their wife for money is guilty of breaking the marriage covenant . I know the scriptures. I went to graduate school inTheology at Fuller Seminary.
Pastor Patrick Darnell Thank you. The real church has left the building. I go to the streets and preach the gospel. The modern church expects people to walk through those doors but Jesus says go out to them! They stay and sit in their pews doing nothing!
Religion is the calisthenics and Serving is the Worship, Hope street, Kaiors prison ministry , Free men, Keeper of the Heart, and others, there is a simple Church in Shreveport LA there mot is "Do Good " Good talk , keep up the work!!!
Thank you Les, I'm glad to hear that there are some churches out there who are embracing this.
All of this sounds amazing. Practically putting that into practice…haven’t seen it yet. The church would be great, but people keep getting in the way. I’ve served on staff at three churches. It’s always the same story. Modern church doesn’t work no matter what you do. It exists, but it never thrives for more than a season. After that, the crash! Lots of words here, but I’ve heard that sermon many times. How about this? Realize people ARE the Church and quit trying to fix and reinvent a system that men crafted and then expected God to work with. Not sure Jesus would ever attend church. Maybe He would, maybe not.
Jesus would probably make guest appearances. Shake up the people with a gut punch of a message and roll out. Lol
It exists. But you cannot build a new church model on the old man made foundations. It’s a new (old) paradigm. I’ve been meeting with groups for over 25 years in homes. The Biblical prescription is:
1. Meeting in homes
2. Centered around a fellowship meal (the Lords Supper$
3. A time of open sharing by everyone, for edification and encouragement of all.
4. No hierarchical leadership, rather leadership from among not over the Body. Church decisions by consensus, not by a “clergy”.
5. Plural eldership, informal, no titles or special honoraries, no clergy/laity divide. We are all brothers and sisters with different gifts; the expression of those gifts are functional, NOT positional!
6. Church is family, the people , not some building.
That’s it!
The early church was built around the people getting together and drifting each other through Scripture and fellowship.
The modern church is built on the business model, one person makes the decisions, the board agrees, and they advertise their church. Much what goes on stays inside the "spiritual corporation".
You have a CEO that desires to improve his product and uses God's name to do the work. Sadly, the product rarely leaves the building and the product doesn't surface to its people.
Anyone else notice that this had the cadence of a sermon?
Pretty much every public speech has cadence of a sermon. Cause that's kinda what a speech is.
It's a tough habit to break. At least it helps to keep people's attention in a crowded room. Thanks for commenting.
@@pastorpatrickdarnell3466 sure.
It seemed ironic that a Ted talk about how the system is artificial and needs replaced accidentally mimics the properties of that system.
That's ironic! To sermon is to rally people to a cause or view... Exactly what every Ted talk does. So, yes this is a sermon and it was wonderful!
This is beautiful
Thank you very much. I am glad that you enjoyed it.
i live in omaha nebraska, church businesses everywhere.
God, please protect me from Christians...
No comments???!!!
That's this guy's problem - considers being a 'pastor' as a profession. Notice the scripture that some reference as the five-fold ministry. Christ GAVE some apostles, prophets, evangilists, shepards and teachers. He gave, so it's a gift. Not a profession. It's not even a pastor (only place this word is used) but a shepard. Churchianity is why it's a profession, Christianity never suggested it should be a profession.
He must be from the church of feel good or the church of so-called “social justice” which isn’t about True Justice. Apparently he’s not from Christ believing Church or he would’ve said so. He didn’t mention Jesus the Christ once nor a single piece of scripture of God‘s word. Simply doing good deeds is not at all what Christ the savior was about. Read the Bible but forget this guy.
If you work 8hours a day work some more smh
The homeless in my area walk past at least 10 help wanted signs to stand on a corner and beg.
Homelessness goes deeper than not being able to get a job. There is often some mental illness that leads to the homelessness. Anyone who works with the homeless could tell you homelessness is due to wrong belief.
Thanks Seth , my comment is out of frustration.
What a waste of an educational platform for a sermon to proselytize ones belief.
So religious subjects are not educational? Censorship, as you seem to believe in, is the opposite of open discussion and education, and diametrically opposed to what a TED talk is supposed to be.
I think one can learn however you want, I just think religion is not the best source of education when it mocks logic, being skeptical, and those who have doubts...while TED is a great platform for education, religion should not have a platform as it is not truly "educational." Heck, religion even has one day of the week which it has a platform to de-educate the mind, rob the poor, and give false hopes. Church folks can commune all they want, but they don't hold a monopoly on community @@rjhinnj